The Path to Discovering Your Talents and Passions, with Sir Ken Robinson | Big Think Mentor
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Youre truly free when what you do gives you everything you need, and when all other things don't matter in the slightest. i have little money but feel so rich because my talent rewards me more than money or anything else could.
Love you, Ken! All the work you do is so wonderful, thank you!
So much wisdom in 3 minutes! We miss you!
Dear Ken, It's so true that I wonder why I never took the time to find out earlier in my life! I's when I moved to China on my 57 years old I discovered my real purpose in life! I started teaching little kids in China English. Well I didn't had much choice of doing what I did in Holland. So teaching English was one of the very few options! To my surprise It turned out to become my most wonderful job I ever had in life and even now I'm retired I keep on doing this. I now combine it with my other passions Music en Drama. I developed an almost holistic approach to help these kids develop the basic skill to communicate in English and express them self in so many ways. I wish Chinese state primary schools would develop more in the direction that you describe. There is so much suffering, wasting talents, stress and frustrating parents and kids, when will they ever learn? Anyway thanks for you wonderful lectures, ideas and work, it really helped me to become what I am now!
Great story sir :)
I go to China every year to train teachers to teach English through Drama! I also teach a global on-line course and have written a resource book for teachers to learn the startegies.
www.eltsusanhillyard.com
I miss you, Sir Ken Robinson. Thank you for everything. . R.I.P
Same here. Im in my late 30's and I am just now discovering a passion for something. It took me a long time to discover it and believe it or not, it was staring me in the face the whole time. For me, what helped the most is asking myself "honestly" a question. What do I enjoy doing whether I'm alone or with others? What would I enjoy doing day after day after day...for years? Then when I got to the root of that, I asked myself how can I get paid to do or be a part of that thing. Hope that helps
Quite helpful
good morning, awesome, spot on, when one has a passion we have the eyes of a child and the creativity of Leonardo
This is exactly the problem i've had my whole life, since high school i didn't even know what i wanted to do, i'm uninterested in almost everything and i can't find anything that could get me interested to invest time and work on it, like a specific work career, i've been feeling lost for more than 8 years and i still feel like this, i can't find a way out for this.
I think that what you are good at and what you want to do aren't the same thing. But regardless if it's easier to archieve something at sphere/work you're good at, but to get really good at something a passion is neccesary to push yourself beyond what normal person would do, which is why I think that what you really want is more important for when choosing your path than what you're good at.
The idea is that, as hksin basically said, to have something you are working towards. You don't get to do what you want to do RIGHT NOW just because it's your passion; you get to put in the necessary work/service beforehand in order to achieve it in the future.
I partly agree, willingness can be taught. But also can be inherited. Every child in the world is born different with his/her special traits, but also some traits that aren't so great.
There are always tasks which no-one ever wants to do. And always will be. Hoping that everyone can do what they like is rather naive, altough beautiful.
Thanks for giving me hope.
I hope you found out what you wanted to do.
If you haven't, watch Sir Ken Robinson's presentations at TED Talks. They're amazing.
I'm very happy with what I do. I identify very much with this "It's not what I do... it's who I am"
three types of learning: being taught something, wanting to learn something and having the passion to discover something for yourself, there's a big difference between them. if you have a passion for something, you don't need money or guidance from anything that can't be found free. with a passion, you don't do it because you want to, you do it because you need to. think of all the famous that are not considered "smart", if you can find your passion and truly tap into it, that's all you need...
I believe I have a hard time understanding the connection between the distribution of work and the flexibility of work, but I do agree with your main point. The specifics of how the work should be distributed exactly is up for debate, though, since "justly" is a relative concept.
I try to maintain a work/life balance. I used to tell myself that I loved my job. Made the balance that I hated my life. Now, I have admitted that I hate my job, I can more easily love my life.
There is such a thing as a temperament (static baseline / personality ) from which everything is built off; but to mastery something your right, everything has to be developed even if your not aware of it.
1) There are people (I have met some of them) who genuenly love cleaning things and it is very much their 'thing'. 2) It's got nothing to do with positive thinking. It takes hard work and dedication to find something you love to do and then to stick with it through thick and thin. It is not easy and it requires sacrifices, like almost everything else in life. Most people are too lazy/jaded/pessimistic to even try.
I know very well what this guy's talking about because my parents have been saying the same things all my life.
They are both economics and for reasons I cannot understand they truly like what they're doing. Me on the other hand, I haven't really found something like that yet. I'm studying a wide education in Information Technology right now and I feel like I'm on to something. I really hope that in 2 years when I have to chose my specialication/master that I'll have found out what I wish to do.
your a great man
Knew him since TED. Love this guy :D
This is the kind of answer I've been waiting for! My point exactly.
An increase in general flexibility is a good thing for the people, but too much of it would result in a fairly non-productive society. As of now, the unemployment rate is a major societal problem. With this in mind, I think we have a long way to go before we've reached "too much flexibility".
Or am I mistaken?
I think a major hurdle for most people is that what they enjoy doing would not provide enough financially to shelter and feed their families.
everything has a good reason you would understand if you knew. not knowing them makes us forget these reasons though exist. it takes a little practice but if you accept that, youll start seeing the world with different eyes.
Presuming you are immediately successful in each new profession, then doing so is perfectly viable, if not, then you risk not earning enough money for a comfortable retirement, which is the primary motivator for sticking with one profession, over time your expertise can be used to make more and more money (under ideal circumstances).
I've been making music for about a year now and before that, there wasn't really anything I could see myself doing. Hopefully I'll be able to make a career out of it, even if it's only enough to get by that's enough for me. I think I really need to learn each scale and note by ear though because I can compose massive orchestral music in my head but I can never seem to get it out onto the computer... not an obstacle but I think it would make my music far better.
sorry to hear that...without my passion i'd be lost in life. however, i don't think it is that you "never had...", it's that you never realised and now it's been forgotten. the best way to go about it is thinking of something you like and always have liked to do ever since you can remember, if possible, all the way back since you were a kid. don't think of it for a job or a career, money can be made from anything you get good at. if that fails, trying many different things might be the only help
Concerning distribution of work and flexibility:
My argument is that, theoretically, you could manage to distribute work to the whole population and reach full employment by reducing the average working hours.
So, in principle, you distribute the same amount of work to a larger part of the population. Since this leads to less working time on average, work can become more flexible.
This theory has of course some downsides. For example, reduced work comes with reduced wages.
Aha, I understand now. Thanks for the explanation.
Simple really, Sir Ken is one of my all time heroes!
I Admire his insights a great deal.
Exactly my problem, I mean this is what we are going to do for most of our life, and there are just so many interesting things in the world... Setteling for one thing only is the hardest choice ever.
While I don't disagree with this line of thinking, there are some of us that have so many things they enjoy doing, they can't pick just one. On top of that, there are things I've enjoyed for 30 plus years that I no longer do much anymore. All this on top of having a job and commute which is soul crushing. You make the time 4 U.
good point
We is everyone who wanna do what they love, the others are people who want just a job andconcentrateon their hobbies or families.
Robots could take care of some jobs of that kind but I would prefer not to. Because robots could do the repetitive task (i.e. boring) and we do the social and business stuff (like negotiation and opening your own business etc).
AI (Artifical Intelligence) is developing fast and very mature so I personally have a optimistic view for the future.
I still haven't find my passion watching your videos
***** I feel we all carry around traits which make us more capable of doing something more efficiently or effectively.
Hahahahaha.
You don’t need to have a talent in order to quit your job and do what you love. your current job might be paying you descent but what’s the use if it isn’t what you love? PS I have read his book and they aren’t bad if you want check out this old but great book “Rich Dad Poor Dad”. Cheers.
I know what I have a talent for, but it doesn't make money. I only have myself to depend on, so I have to support myself. I have no choice, but to do what I can make enough money with to support myself.
You may be in, what is called moratorium. Many people find themselves in this situation when they have not discovered a purpose, or, calling in their lives (careerwise or other), during a crucial stage of development, which is around the age of 18. Do not worry, search for that purpose, it is never to late to find your path. Try and picture who you would ideally like to be ? Once you have done this, you can begin taking steps towards being this person.
me too... and I'm finishing my studies, face with a choice to make between so many uninteresting things
Just do what u love. YOLO bro.
Why did you choose the studies, who directed you to them? Have you managed to translate your choices 4 years ago into something you actually wanted to do?
What I would love for an opportunity to sit down with these men and share their ideas and thinking and perhaps, listen long enough, question long enough, for them to ask me to share mine.
AWESOME VIDEO
It was John B. Watson the one who said that, one of the fathers of behaviorism, the complete opposite of Freud's psychoanalysis.
Look in every and each theraphy techquine or school of psychology theres a big deal of the will of the patient involved (first of all if he doesn't look for the theraphy nothing is going to happen). In the example Watson needs the will of the parents, no? I think this is more like a philosophical question but: is unwillingness a way to express our will aswell?
I did the same thing.I was a janitor.Job didn't change too much...
The solution is easy , 1) I can just walk away n leave everything behind but that's mean the ppl i cared for will suffer from certain ppl so this is not option able. 2) Learn to let go my anger n hatred which i'm trying my best in order to tolerate the situation ... though i'm still deeply pissed off by every crap this ridiculous ppl kept pulling
Geez!! I come here to watch videos, but only end up checking more and more books out from the library!
you don't develop talent, you have to be born with it, talent is a genetic gift
I think one of the biggest problems though is that we need people who just tolerate their life for society to function. I think there are very few if any that want to flip burgers or be cashiers at a deep fundamental level. but if we lose those people a lot of society would be in disarray. Ideally everyone would be living their life fully optimized to their talents and interests but it's hard to imagine how society would be knowing how it is now.
Read the Sword of Truth novel series, particularly "The Faith of the Fallen".
I think if working hours would be reduced and work would be distributed (more) justly to the population, there would be not much unemployment. In addition, work would become more flexible and less stressfull.
This of course would not work everywhere. For example, my homecountry Greece definitely needs to raise its productivity. But in many other european countries, i think, this could work well.
yeah, that too.
that's exatcly what i mean. if you wasn't passionate enough about art to give it full focus over everything else, you would still have the same talent as if you were 2 (which wouldn't be a talent at all as an adult). being good at something early in life is not very significant and by no means necessary. it's the dedication you devote to it and how it drives you, that creates the talent for life that i'm talking about
i think a big part of what keeps people at jobs they disdain is "inertia". you're in your comfort zone, get a regular paycheck, you enjoy socializing with the people at work. work itself rots your soul because it wastes all your talents but you tolerate it...
How did you go about changing from architecture to software engineer?
I doubt I'd find out what I want to do if I bought his book.
It's essentially the same thing, except with this system it's direct support for a direct product.
It is asking. You put it in a question form yourself. The point is you have a choice. You can continue with your self-entitled mindset (which is, in fact, greedy) and take their free content that they are still offering, or you have the OPTION of paying for more. It's a choice.
I'm not sure what ads you're referring to, specifically.
But they can enjoy certain activities much more than others and therefore have much more disposition in the work place. If people like what they do, it's a fact that they'll try harder and maybe at some point along the line they will be talented in that area that they enjoy.
This video was pointless. Just promoting his book. This is more like an infomercial.
Sure that's the problem for some people but not everyone. I'm talking about the people that are one missed paycheck away from being out on the streets. They don't have time to pursue hobbies or risk their jobs to make a hobby their life. For the people that do have time to pursue a hobby as a career, it still requires an obscene amount of luck in some cases. Music, for example, takes a ton of time to get good at and most likely won't reward you with any money unless you make a lucky break.
BEcause we actually profit from the system, which is insane, thinking of the masses of people on whose shoulders we stand
I'm not too sure about that. There are loads of examples out there of siblings who grow up to be entirely different people. E.g. one might become a murderer, the other an industrial genius, the other an environment activist...
Freud was very influential, but his ideas were (often) also wrong/incomplete. Education etc. most definitely play a huge role, but it would be a grave mistake to dismiss both the examples I referred to above *and* the whole field of genetics.
Unfortunately my day job seems to leave no energy, time or passion for the illustration career I once had. And one cannot simply quit at my age and expect to continue having badly needed health insurance and retirement. I hope his book addresses these issues.
Go watch one of his many long talks or brilliant TED talk here on Utube.
What is his book called that he refers to in the beginning of the video? I am interested in getting it.
too good...
Will this book help me if I want to start a business rather than get a job?
Now I can definitely agree with that. You're right, you need to nurture your innate talents of they'll never grow.
I love art, should I make art studies to work in art or should I make a job that pays a lot so I'll be able to do art on my own later? This system sucks for those who have lots of possibilities...
This is why a society without money would be great. I could surely settle for working in a garbage truck, but I won't earn enough money that way.
Oh man, I'm so tempted to cough up the dough for this one. Sir Ken Robinson is a fantastic speaker, and a brilliant guy. I guess there's already enough free stuff out there he's done that paying for this is unnecessary unfortunately.
Can't tell you how many people I've met in their 60s and 70s at ateliers who've expressed deep regret for trading drawing/painting for a lucrative, non art-related career. Yes, one has to make a living for oneself, but don't kiss your dreams goodbye. Keep looking for ways to at the very least illustrate as a hobby. Trust me, I know about insurance issues - just shelled out nearly $300 to patch up a 1/4 inch laceration with dermabond. Don't give up the good fight!
best of luck to ya
I'm certain that people who are working to pay for that game subscription/console or that pool, or that vacation, or that awesome new car would be living much happier lives.
Certainly sounds more fun than now when in essence they are just grinding away just to keep grinding.
Unfortunately most of you go along with the current system, and thus it perpetuates itself.
The title of the book is "Finding Your Element".
My suggestion would be to find something practical that deals with art (ex. graphic design) or something that you'll at least be able tollerate so you can do what you want on the side, but by all means, don't shell out big bucks to go to an art school. Use the "system" to your advantage - use it to force yourself to develop the discipline to become the artist that you imagine yourself capable of becoming. Learn to pride yourself in this self imposed discipline, and you'll achieve a great deal.
Why isn't the whole Big Think Mentor serious available outside the US?
David Glass, he talks about the middle-class people in his book. He give exemples of people doing what they love in an amateur way, while they have a job. But this is easier to make assumptions than reading a book...
What is the video called? I might of seen it, but just in case.
SAME!!!!!
FYI, it was John Watson who said that, not Freud.
I personally know people who derive pleasure from cleaning things. Although they are slightly obsessive Compulsive in nature, they still enjoy it. Who knows, some people might have a passion for cleaning. And if they get paid for it, even better.
How do you stay competitive by jumping into different fields? You don't have the experiences as others by moving from different fields.
How much do I have to pay to watch the Big Think Mentor videos?
Part of the problem is schooling. Each student needs a course setup all of their own (the courses themselves and the speed at which the individual topics are taught).
The system as is, is nonsense and can only lead to people just drifting through life doing things they do not necessarily do.
Of course another big problem is money as well. No one should have to pay for their education either, even if it takes them 50+ years of schooling to find what they really want to do...
No, sometimes people can't help losing their interest in activities. It's natural. It actually would be inconvenient if those people would not follow their feelings and would not seek for change, which in fact is what's happening now in our societies. That, partially, explains today's amount of stressed, unhappy and depressed people.
you have to work to have the right to live.. you have to have earn your own money .. hence few people are able to do what they want
It sucks that I can't subscribe to mentor. I even tried throwing money at my screen but youtube just says it is not available in your country.
first !
awesome video too :)
And all are worth watching. The first and last at least, was a little underwhelmed by the second.
I imagine scar saying it and it just fits
That's how lol, lmao, swag, b4, omg, fyi, btw, etc is meant to simplify words which is very useful since youtube comment box got word limit. Unless u wanna spam lol.
Whats the name of the book?
He has got many books. The one I read was “creative schools” it’s a good book if you don’t get bored haha.
Can human live with normal gravity deep down below the moon that robot are going to drill and dig and build city within the moon etc.?
No, i am not describing a political system, but just a certain policy.
Though it seems like a socialist policy in nature, which i do not think is bad, it actually has been (and is being) applied in the private sector in Germany by the Industry and by some labor unions. For example, during the crisis of 2008, this policy protected the employees, kept the employment rate high and maintained the german economic stability.
This time I'm going to get my cutie mark for sure! :D
Same here, bro :(
Man why is big think mentor not available in my country :((
I totally cant do anything else than what I do either, its the only thing I can give 100% to
Out of curiosity would you rather not know what your passion is, or know what it is but know that your unable to fulfill it due to various life restrictions? By that I mean would you rather not know, or know that you can never do it?