Skeleton Kit Bash and scale comparison. Tomb Kings Vampire Counts Erehwon Oathmark Wargames Atlantic
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2025
- A comprehensive deep dive into kit bashing skeleton warriors for Warhammer The Old World and Billhooks Fantasia. Whether you’re building a Games Workshop army of undead or want to add a fantasy element to historical wargames, I look at a range of plastic and metal miniatures, kit bash and build some cool models and compare miniature scales between a wide range of manufacturers including metals from Wargames Foundry, Warmonger Miniatures and plastics from Fireforge, Frostgrave and Reaper Bones.
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I love that you’re making this form of content. It’s very useful to hobbyists who don’t want to be limited to GW only
@@jamesn2830 thank you 😊
For the Wargames Atlantic Skeletons, the one skeleton with its legs not attached is to allow for making a skeleton on horseback. I finished my skeleton army early last year using the original GW Skeleton Horde models, TK/VC models, metal Tomb Guard, and Wargames Atlantic skeletons and chariots. For the Wargames Atlantic skeletons, In my head canon, I figure they were a people conquered by Khemri, and I painted all their weapons bronze since they died before the iron age. :) I put the extra TK standard tops and some bits on the Wargames Atlantic chariots to Tomb King them up.
@@intzbk1 I had a feeling the one with separate legs might be a rider. Your army sounds very cool. Some great ideas there. 😎
These are all really nice, it's good to have variety and be able to choose if you want an Egyptian, Greek or Celtic undead army,
@@Tim1000064 there are definitely some great options available with plastic skeletons these days.
An old trick used by us TK players is to mix the plastic Tomb Guard up with the old Skeletons for a more Egyptian feel. You can add the bows to the TG bodies for some more elite looking archers or arms from either sets on the different bodies. You can also trim the tops of the heads to make the TG look like regular skeleton warriors. Handy when you want a more up-to-date, or embellished skeleton without making them full Tomb Guard.
Also, I think the name of the regiment of renown you were looking for was Cursed Company.
@@Vasili456 excellent tip thank you and yes, that was it. The Cursed Company 😅 many thanks.
I recently built an undead army to use in 4th edition Warhammer using the wargames Atlantic kits (infantry and chariots). Really good to work with and I did mix in some graveguard parts and also did some major conversions on cavalry. The WA models are great even if the heads are little larger than other ranges and hands and feet are not heroic. Great video.
@@Eyeofthemaelstrom thank you. That sounds like a cool army build that you did.
@PaulStanleyauthor i have a handful of oathmark skellies mixed in as their arms are a good substitute as didn't want a greek theme. I ended up using fire forge undead presents as zombies . Of course I mixed some 90s GW command, vampires, mummies and necromancer.
@ I was tempted to get some FireForge living dead for my VC Zombie hordes.
I’ve used WA for my Dragons Rampant force, really nice and good pricing (important in horde)
Good job. It's all about scale. I've been experimenting and bashing with most of these brands last couple of years. Glad to see we are in agreement in most areas re: scale etc. useful vid.
@@MrRussell2020 thank you 😊
Love all those selections of undead soldiers
Hi just wanted to say, been following your channel over past few months, with the old world bringing back my love of fantasy modelling top of my list, I invested in buying your book ,the modeling & painting, fantasy figures. Brilliant guide to painting and being creative with kit bashing,I highly recommend it to all , even if you're an old hand to the hobby,it's great really enjoying it . Keep up the great work your doing with inspiring people .
@@matthewchilds3144 thank you for your kind comment and for buying a copy of my book. It’s great to hear you’re enjoying it and the channel. Much appreciated thank you 😊
Absolutely love watching your videos Paul, only wish you could make them everyday 😀
@@stanseaton95 thank you. Perhaps one day that will become a reality 😅
13:50 A tedious process it might be, but that skeleton wants to party 😂
@@geronimo8159 😂
Well done! Thx for all your efforts! ❤
Fantastic comparison video. I've got a bunch of WGA and Oathmark skeletons in my Vampire Counts army, however I used VC arms and heads on all the WGA ones to get the size right.
Top tip for Reaper minis: Whatever you do, do not prime or varnish the Reaper Bones minis (or any PVC minis) with a rattle can. They will go tacky and never recover.
@@tiny_worlds thank you and good tip. That’s why I use the Vallejo primer.
Max mini does a nice 'tomb kings' head sprue that goes well on wargames Atlantic scale skellies
@@briandowling8412 great tip thank you. I might try and pick some up at some point.
Great idea to use citadel skulls!
The wargames skeletons remind me of the gw ones from the 80s. They were a pain in the arse yoo
@@rossdiggle yes. I remember those. I used to have some. 😅
At 9.00 when you are glueing the feet on. Struck me that it would have been easier to tack the feet to the round base first and then attach "shins" piece. But there you go the benefits of hindsight....
@@Volgan16666 definitely. I think that’s how you’re supposed to assemble them yes, although I was concerned about getting too much glue on the feet if I’m going to try and rebase them after painting. I’m testing the process with these. 😅
Wargames factory. The foot bones connected to the leg bone, the leg bones connected to the knee bone….
@@marchhare22-lm9on 😂🤣
The Regiment of Renown with the ork skeletons in them is called the Cursed Company
@@polyquaternium7 that’s the one. Thank you.
Absolutely Spot On. Great Minds think alike on these bad boys!
Just an FYI, SkullnCrown miniatures make skeleton landsknecht. You might wanna look it up since you're doing Empire too.
@@Castillo525 excellent thank you. I’ll have a look.
I think the Warlord Skellies would be perfect with some misc modern bits and GW skulls to offset the goofier parts of the kits actually. Might take some willpower to prep anything more than skirmish games though 😂
Love it. Vampire counts is my second army. I am 99.9% metal. But I've recently bought some plastic skeleton archers online. Definately like to try sone kitbashing.
@@myfarawaytales once you start, it’s addicting 😅 I’m always kit bashing plastics these days.
@@PaulStanleyauthor I just bought your paperback book on Amazon.
@ thank you 😊
@@PaulStanleyauthor looking forward to it
Where did the spider miniatures come from ? They look awesome.
@@gordonmcillroy455 thank you. The big one is a Reaper Bones Cave Spider on a custom base. The smallest spider there was a Reaper tarantula and the medium sized spider is a Wargames Atlantic plastic spider.
I genuinely let out an audible “oh no” after you said you didn’t like Wargames Factory’s set and picked up Warlord’s years later…
@@Dan-ds8sf 😅 … and now I love the Wargames Factory skeletons perhaps the most. Never say never.
These kind of videos are really helpful! Very much appreciated. I wonder why you did not include the range of mantic (kings of war). Did you discard them for a given reason?
@@franciscoaguilera3619 I ran out of time on this video but I will include them in my next video on undead. I think they make a great alternative grave guard for the Billhooks scale fantasy undead.
You can put a tau skull on a Oathmark body to make an ancient undead tau!
@@ernestorodriguez3637 that sounds cool. There are heaps of potential. I fancied having a go at Kroot too.
Very interesting I haven't looked at the GW skeletons. I found the Warlord skeletons to be too hard to put together, the Oathmark ones are quite fragile. I found the WA skeletons mixed in with the Mantic plastics make quite a good rabble army, mixing parts. Oathmark make Revanent undead which mix well and kit bash with especially WA skeletons. I think the new WA chariots and cavalry might be of use to you too. The chariots a re nice. Thanks for your ideas. I might mix some GW minis with my army.
@@paulwalker5221 many thanks. There’s some great ideas in there. I’m looking forward to building more of my undead army. I’ve got quite a few old projects to rescue.
Your videos are brilliant! I take my hat off to you sir! It’s a pity to see how large the WGA skeletons are, I’m a bit a scale perfectionist so everything must match 😂
The warlord games look perfect scale wise but… damn that looks some work, not this opposed as the value is decent.
I do have a request though if you could indulge, the Chaos Marauders and warriors and how they compare with Victrix Vikings?
@@macca-of1yc thank you. I do have some chaos to unbox so will try and get a video out on those very soon.
Tell you what though...
I would really dig a Count Orlok figure from the new Nosferatu movie as my Vampire Count.
No surprise here the basic body sizes/proportions of the GW ones are the worst by a huge margin although i'm not a fan of the separate feet idea..
I don’t know anyone who’s made more than one box of Wargames Foundry skellies, most people gave up after 1 or 2 minis. They look nice but just way too fiddly
@@lukefarrell6769 including the skellies on my spider bases I’ll have built two boxes worth by the time I paint these up.
@ you’ve the patience of a saint buddy
@ I think if you’re in the right frame of mind, it can be quite relaxing but definitely not an army you can build in a hurry.
7:35 those Warlord Skellies are infamously bad to put together. Stay away. There are better options out there.
@@shockerck4465 they are certainly testing but I have to admit I do like the finished units. 😅
I have to agree with Paul. They can be a hindrance to put together a good portion of the time but I think they look gorgeous when done personally.
Slowwww down man, jeez you’ll go bankrupt at this rate
@@aguilarraliuga1777 😅 that’s a distinct possibility.
some other skeletons i have been purchasing, has been Tim's die hard miniatures, Drew's satyr art studio, Crooked dice, - plastic undead kit from fireforge are great.