Neodymium vs Ferrite Titanium vs Phenolic Comparison for COMPRESSION DRIVERS aka HORNS! PRV Audio

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • In this video learn the difference between a neo and ferrite driver. Which is better? Well that depends on your application, and budget.
    The second part of the video is the difference between TI Titanium and PH Phenolic drivers.
    In this video I use the following products to show you:
    PRV Audio
    WGP14-50 Chrome Silver
    D3220Ti
    D3220Ti-Nd
    D3220Ph-Nd
    Similar products:
    WG2500Ti D280Ti D230Ti
    D4500Ph D3220Ph D2200Ph D270Ph D275Ph D175Ph-S
    JBL 405 TRIO

КОМЕНТАРІ • 45

  • @headhoncho4890
    @headhoncho4890 Рік тому +5

    Very informative I’ve been in car audio for 30 years and always wondered about this thanks

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Рік тому

      Thanks man I'm glad I could share and teach a veteran in this game something new !

  • @callmebigpapa
    @callmebigpapa Місяць тому +2

    Great video! I like the phenolic sound better for mid reproduction. I have a video titled "Horn Speaker Comparison JBL 2360, Altec 511b 811b, EV Electro Voice SM120a HP640, Yamaha S4115H" where you can hear the differences between different horns with a phenolic diaphragm.

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Місяць тому

      @@callmebigpapa thanks for checking out the video 😎

  • @Actrealsurprised
    @Actrealsurprised 13 днів тому +1

    Very informative. Thanks for the video brotha

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  10 днів тому

      @@Actrealsurprised glad you found it. Be sure to subscribe

  • @dandesouto6076
    @dandesouto6076 Рік тому +6

    That’s exactly the video I was looking for now I know very well which one I want after your explanation.

    • @Shyne_life
      @Shyne_life 11 місяців тому +1

      So which one is best my guy??

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  11 місяців тому

      @@Shyne_life there is no which one is best. It depends on your application.

  • @djsourabh1366
    @djsourabh1366 Рік тому +1

    Thanks 😊

  • @samsmith977
    @samsmith977 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you compare a bolt-on vs screw-on horn driver of the same watt and size?

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  10 місяців тому +1

      There is no difference. Only the way the waveguide mounts

    • @samsmith977
      @samsmith977 10 місяців тому +1

      @@12voltfever Thank you for the quick response. Thanks.

  • @cultivationplus6719
    @cultivationplus6719 Рік тому +2

    Neodeemeom 🤣🤣

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Рік тому +1

      Glad I made you chuckle 🤭🤭

  • @csj9619
    @csj9619 22 дні тому +1

    One thing I rarely see addressed is the comparison in the way each sound (ferrite vs neo). Is there even any difference? In my opinion, small neo tweeters like the ones that are packaged in a component set, cannot match the unstrained output of a full-sized ferrite tweeter, althought both have 1" coils and have similar frequency response.
    * any intellegent response is welcome

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  18 днів тому

      @@csj9619 that's because there is zero sound difference in magnet material. People have this misconception that neo speakers sound better. It's just not true.

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  18 днів тому

      @@csj9619 now if we're talking 8" 10" 12" speakers and 4" voice coil compression drivers, ferrite has better hear dissipating capabilities and so you can abuse them more as there is more magnet mass.

  • @nikkyng8141
    @nikkyng8141 2 роки тому +3

    I have 4 10mb800ft per rear door
    2 2200ph per
    2 tw500my per
    2 st200 per
    What frequency would cross them at for my application

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  2 роки тому +2

      In your case for the D2200PH with supporting tweeters, depending on power of course, you can run them 600bt18-5000bt18 (them TW500 play pretty low for a tweeter). Run them 10s low on the LPF (between 1650-2200 on the low pass) let the driver do the upper vocals and the midbass will shine on the lows and low vocals!

  • @scottouimet2865
    @scottouimet2865 Рік тому +3

    Ty, so if I was using some say 6.5" prv bullet mids and 4" ti700 tweeter wouldn't need one of these or would my sound gain a lot from adding a ti horn? Sorry if that's not asked right. I know a lot about the bass side of audio not a lot about mids/highs and crossovers. But I'm planning a large build and need to get my mids and highs up to sound right. Thanks you and subscribed

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Рік тому +1

      Sorry for the late reply, you can always benefit from a compression driver for a more full sound. With a phenolic driver (1" would be sufficient such as the d270ph) you can run the low pass lower on the speaker so the vocals are stronger and then the driver will fill the gap between the speaker and the tweeters!

  • @Shyne_life
    @Shyne_life 11 місяців тому +1

    Im running (6) 6.5 neos in my front doors with 4 tweeters and gonna add in 2 horns in each door off of their own amp. Would phenolic be the best way to go?

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  11 місяців тому

      Phenolic would be good. I would take a look at the new PRV WG175PY or if you have the space WG270PH

  • @austinhenry8814
    @austinhenry8814 8 місяців тому +1

    So basically have one of each a ti/ph a good mid range and go to work

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  8 місяців тому

      Yes it's good to combine them

  • @shadrackrolle8461
    @shadrackrolle8461 Рік тому +1

    Can they need you on a professional dj sound system?

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Рік тому

      Don't really understand the question?

  • @AllSoWavyReese
    @AllSoWavyReese Рік тому +2

    So the titanium is higher and the phenolic is adjustable mid range type?

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Рік тому

      They both play "mid range" frequency but the titanium can play much higher, but not as low as a phenolic.

    • @AllSoWavyReese
      @AllSoWavyReese Рік тому

      @@12voltfever i have 2 4” titanium tweeters and 2 2” titanium tweeters with 4 neo 8’s mid. I think imma go with a phenolic and tune a little higher

    • @AllSoWavyReese
      @AllSoWavyReese Рік тому +1

      @@12voltfever do horn length play a part?

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Рік тому +1

      @@AllSoWavyReese yes especially on phenolic. The longer the better. Sounds cleaner and gives deeper vocals.

    • @AllSoWavyReese
      @AllSoWavyReese Рік тому

      @@12voltfever hey thats wat he said but ok i got u😂

  • @Bigpaul12345678
    @Bigpaul12345678 10 місяців тому +1

    When using Titanium driver do I still need tweeter ?

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  10 місяців тому

      You don't need it. Some people will tell you otherwise. You can use a tweeter also and it does improve brightness.

    • @Bigpaul12345678
      @Bigpaul12345678 10 місяців тому

      @@12voltfever thanks I have been using both and I removed the tweeter and my sounds better with out them

  • @rcfaudioitalia6110
    @rcfaudioitalia6110 Рік тому +1

    titanium is better. most of c.drivers use titanium.

    • @12voltfever
      @12voltfever  Рік тому

      It is a matter of preference, depending on the system.

    • @rcfaudioitalia6110
      @rcfaudioitalia6110 Рік тому +1

      @@12voltfever I know. I have titanium, polyester, polyimide. All 3 have their caracteristics.

    • @MegaJohn334
      @MegaJohn334 4 місяці тому

      What would u say is better? I have B&C MH32 12”, and Prv tweeters, I want to get 4 drivers. What would u say is good to fill in the gap? Phenolic or titanium? What brand ? Thank you

    • @rcfaudioitalia6110
      @rcfaudioitalia6110 4 місяці тому +1

      @@MegaJohn334 MH32 won't couple well with a 4" c.driver. You are going to have missmatch on 2000hz.
      I'd sugest you DE250 that produces crystal highs. I use it on ME45 horn.
      Try it. You'r gonna ❤️ it.