This footage is great for "improving beginners" such as myself so I appreciate the effort in putting this up. I think this wave setting is perfect for testing out shorter boards. When transitioning from a log you need to practice somewhere right, its not as if you hop on a shortboard and you're magically a typical "average" surfer straight away. It'd be interesting to see footage a year from now. You should consider a 1 year comparison video, same board, same wave. Keep up the good work mate.
definitely will thanks for the great idea! yeah the aim was to show footage for people who might be nervous about stepping up from cruiser, just wanted to show how so many people actually are in this setting
Hey it’s definitely a bit steeper but not a crazy step up. If you’ve been able to consistently get up on cruiser you should be fine. Just start a little further back and a little bit away from the wall and you should be fine. Good luck!!
I think I wasn’t so specific with the title, this is the perfect representation of what the average urbnsurfer looks like Who does this setting, not the average surfer from your local break
@@shoeyssurfing Ahh, ok Shoey, I agree with the comment. . How about ' on average this is a sample of the level of surfing of our urbn surfers learning to surf in a Wavepool'.
And yes it is a bit more gutless wave, the intermediate is similar size but has a lot more power to it. The progressive turns is supposed to just be a stepping stone between the small cruiser wave and the half decent intermediate wave
Surf more and do complementary exercises for a stable core. That way more control and reaction. With time the work you put in will result in a lighter body feeling with more assertive decision making. That will translate in more flow in the lines you draw making you look more light footed idk
He's right tho, this is a beginner. An average surfer would have figured out to do a quick cutback a couple seconds in when the wave goes flat. You've got to get some pop in your bottom turn to give u a bit of speed into a "cutback" style of turn to stay close to the energy.
@@DerekPfarryeah it is handy to have. Also maybe I can make the title clearer it’s what the average person who goes to urbnsurf looks like, not an average surfer from your local break. It’s full of people who can’t get past the pop up or just ride the wave out without trying to turn or anything
@@mohammadlevy9668how do I go about giving some pop? Is it about doing like a pump going into the top turn? I am open to any suggestions always trying to improve
I do agree should start on a log roll feel comfortable but nothing wrong with someone wanting to have a crack and n a short board whether you think they are ready or not. The surfer here is actually me and I’ve been on an 8ft foamie for the last two years and I am now trying to progress into short boards. This is also footage of me surfing after a 2 month break from sickness so I was always going to be pretty rusty
The problem with logs is turning them. If you want to practice the fundamentals (positioning, reading waves, pop up, angle, trimming) then yes, a log is great. But the only way you are going to learn how to ride a short board is to get on one, it just needs enough volume.
@@shoeyssurfing I know everyone is shitting on you here mate but I thought you were surfing well. You have a good, quick pop up and your positioning was good. It takes guts to put a vid of your surfing online like this. You absolutely looked like an average surfer, the thing is online we are used to seeing expert level surfers, so any intermediate looks like a kook. You had a couple of nice waves in the middle there, went top to bottom and made a few sections. Surfing is hard, and its the easiest thing in the world to pretend that you rip when you are behind a keyboard. Just a couple of things I noticed; when you are turning you need to weight your back foot more. I do this by consciously thinking of "toe pressure, heel pressure", when I turn. It will stop you from bogging your rail which happened a few times. You really need to be on one rail or the other, always. Then, when you are turning, remember to look at the spot where you want the turn to happen or end. You did this a bit, but one of the reason your top turns only went about half way to the white water is you didn't turn your head far enough. This will unlock your shoulders more. Finally, if you want to generate more torque, you need to rotate your shoulder and leading arm more. A snap is always heel pressure and upper body rotation together. You were really only using your rail to turn. These were all things I had to learn as I progressed, and things I have to constantly remind myself to do. Just one question, did you have to pay for the footage? Or did they allow you to film it?
@@timblizzard4226 hey Thankyou so much for the thoughtful and kind reply. Really appreciate the feedback and I’ll definitely work on those points, really appreciate it. Yes this was the flowstate vision which costs $25 per session, worth it every now and then I think but a bit steep to buy regularly. They let you film but not with professional cameras or dslr. I have filmed a few sessions off my phone on a tripod and they had no issue with it
@@shoeyssurfing no worries. I think everyone has unrealistic expectations these days because 99% of the footage we see is of the top 1% of surfers. So when they see intermediate surfing everyone thinks it sucks. It's all just part of the journey. All you really need to progress is commitment. I wasn't lucky enough to grow up surfing, I felt like a complete kook when I stared in my mid 20s. 15 years later and I'm now often one of the better guys at most of the places I surf. Just keep at it and you'll be surfing pumping gunna/woollies/bells in no time. I know everyone's giving you unsolicited advice here but there's one more thing I've got to warn you about. The biggest mistake I made when I transitioned to a short board was going way too low in volume. It killed by progression. I was barely catching 3 waves a session, but I thought I was cool because I was riding a 6'2 with 35 liters. I don't even trust the volume calculators you see at most surf brands. Personally I ride 20% more volume than they tell me to. When I did this my wave count went through the roof, and I got much better. Generally speaking, surf the most volume you can still reliably duck dive. I was curious about the pool, I've just never been there because I literally live 5 minutes away from the beach. It just doesn't seem worth it. But it looks like a great place for video analysis but I was just wondering what their policy was. It's hard to get video of your waves in the ocean. $25 isn't too bad.
You doing great. Nice video mate. Thx for sharing
This footage is great for "improving beginners" such as myself so I appreciate the effort in putting this up. I think this wave setting is perfect for testing out shorter boards. When transitioning from a log you need to practice somewhere right, its not as if you hop on a shortboard and you're magically a typical "average" surfer straight away. It'd be interesting to see footage a year from now.
You should consider a 1 year comparison video, same board, same wave. Keep up the good work mate.
definitely will thanks for the great idea! yeah the aim was to show footage for people who might be nervous about stepping up from cruiser, just wanted to show how so many people actually are in this setting
Hey I’m going today for this mode and was wondering how much steeper the take off is compared to cruiser
Hey it’s definitely a bit steeper but not a crazy step up. If you’ve been able to consistently get up on cruiser you should be fine. Just start a little further back and a little bit away from the wall and you should be fine. Good luck!!
@@shoeyssurfing I did fine today and got like 15 good waves I was wondering what’s it like to step up to intermediate now
@@Cooperjepmtb hahaha nice work. Intermediate is a bit of a jump again, but stepper and stronger wave, my favourite setting though
@@shoeyssurfing yep thanks
Nice video. You are better than average despite what the average UA-camrs are saying in the comments.
If this is average, then I'm semi-pro lol.
I think I wasn’t so specific with the title, this is the perfect representation of what the average urbnsurfer looks like Who does this setting, not the average surfer from your local break
@@shoeyssurfing Ahh, ok Shoey, I agree with the comment. . How about ' on average this is a sample of the level of surfing of our urbn surfers learning to surf in a Wavepool'.
Cruiser or turns?
Turns
Is this an "intermediate" session? Those waves look gutless.
No this is the progressive turns session
And yes it is a bit more gutless wave, the intermediate is similar size but has a lot more power to it. The progressive turns is supposed to just be a stepping stone between the small cruiser wave and the half decent intermediate wave
u really need to be light footed for these types of waves w very little power
Any tips on how to do that?
Surf more and do complementary exercises for a stable core. That way more control and reaction. With time the work you put in will result in a lighter body feeling with more assertive decision making. That will translate in more flow in the lines you draw making you look more light footed idk
I've been surfing for 30 years. STILL not this good.
Thanks for the compliment, you are probably being too kind though
these are below average surfers
Bit rough hahah that’s me there just actually showing off the many fails rather than just the good waves
He's right tho, this is a beginner. An average surfer would have figured out to do a quick cutback a couple seconds in when the wave goes flat. You've got to get some pop in your bottom turn to give u a bit of speed into a "cutback" style of turn to stay close to the energy.
@@shoeyssurfing sorry mate :) didn’t know it was you! No offense it’s all about fun anyways! You’re lucky to try out one of these places! I
@@DerekPfarryeah it is handy to have. Also maybe I can make the title clearer it’s what the average person who goes to urbnsurf looks like, not an average surfer from your local break. It’s full of people who can’t get past the pop up or just ride the wave out without trying to turn or anything
@@mohammadlevy9668how do I go about giving some pop? Is it about doing like a pump going into the top turn? I am open to any suggestions always trying to improve
If this is average, I’m basically pro
Nice!!
People loose so much time trying to learn on a short board. Pointless. Just want to have the cool board. Get real guys ride a log until your ready
I do agree should start on a log roll feel comfortable but nothing wrong with someone wanting to have a crack and n a short board whether you think they are ready or not.
The surfer here is actually me and I’ve been on an 8ft foamie for the last two years and I am now trying to progress into short boards. This is also footage of me surfing after a 2 month break from sickness so I was always going to be pretty rusty
The problem with logs is turning them. If you want to practice the fundamentals (positioning, reading waves, pop up, angle, trimming) then yes, a log is great. But the only way you are going to learn how to ride a short board is to get on one, it just needs enough volume.
@@shoeyssurfing I know everyone is shitting on you here mate but I thought you were surfing well. You have a good, quick pop up and your positioning was good. It takes guts to put a vid of your surfing online like this. You absolutely looked like an average surfer, the thing is online we are used to seeing expert level surfers, so any intermediate looks like a kook. You had a couple of nice waves in the middle there, went top to bottom and made a few sections. Surfing is hard, and its the easiest thing in the world to pretend that you rip when you are behind a keyboard.
Just a couple of things I noticed; when you are turning you need to weight your back foot more. I do this by consciously thinking of "toe pressure, heel pressure", when I turn. It will stop you from bogging your rail which happened a few times. You really need to be on one rail or the other, always. Then, when you are turning, remember to look at the spot where you want the turn to happen or end. You did this a bit, but one of the reason your top turns only went about half way to the white water is you didn't turn your head far enough. This will unlock your shoulders more. Finally, if you want to generate more torque, you need to rotate your shoulder and leading arm more. A snap is always heel pressure and upper body rotation together. You were really only using your rail to turn. These were all things I had to learn as I progressed, and things I have to constantly remind myself to do.
Just one question, did you have to pay for the footage? Or did they allow you to film it?
@@timblizzard4226 hey Thankyou so much for the thoughtful and kind reply. Really appreciate the feedback and I’ll definitely work on those points, really appreciate it.
Yes this was the flowstate vision which costs $25 per session, worth it every now and then I think but a bit steep to buy regularly. They let you film but not with professional cameras or dslr. I have filmed a few sessions off my phone on a tripod and they had no issue with it
@@shoeyssurfing no worries. I think everyone has unrealistic expectations these days because 99% of the footage we see is of the top 1% of surfers. So when they see intermediate surfing everyone thinks it sucks. It's all just part of the journey.
All you really need to progress is commitment. I wasn't lucky enough to grow up surfing, I felt like a complete kook when I stared in my mid 20s. 15 years later and I'm now often one of the better guys at most of the places I surf. Just keep at it and you'll be surfing pumping gunna/woollies/bells in no time.
I know everyone's giving you unsolicited advice here but there's one more thing I've got to warn you about. The biggest mistake I made when I transitioned to a short board was going way too low in volume. It killed by progression. I was barely catching 3 waves a session, but I thought I was cool because I was riding a 6'2 with 35 liters. I don't even trust the volume calculators you see at most surf brands. Personally I ride 20% more volume than they tell me to. When I did this my wave count went through the roof, and I got much better. Generally speaking, surf the most volume you can still reliably duck dive.
I was curious about the pool, I've just never been there because I literally live 5 minutes away from the beach. It just doesn't seem worth it. But it looks like a great place for video analysis but I was just wondering what their policy was. It's hard to get video of your waves in the ocean. $25 isn't too bad.
Hey I’m going today for this mode and was wondering how much steeper the take off is compared to cruiser