I never looked at Tek & Steele as traitors...they always came off as some real stand up dudes...1 of my favorite rap duo's ever when I was coming up...salute Math & shouts out from Baltimore to the whole M.E.O show
Smiff n Wessun RODE for PAC since I remember hearing about them! Them 2 guus would still shoot and take bullets TO THIS DAY Over Pac !!! Them 2 guys Rode more for Pac than the Outlaws no disrespect but gotta keep it a 100 !!!! MATH HOFFA YOU A PROBLEM NIGGA KEEP GOING !!! BIGGA GOTTA CHIIL THE F OUT OR GO........ @MATH HOFFA
Nah it wasnt misunderstood rap lyrics. Bigga is right, Tupac did say "my 44 make sure all your kids dont grow". And Tupac clearly said "if you down with bad boys, fuck you too, "all you motherfuckers fuck you". Clear as day, if you were a new york dude out on the streets you take that personal and that's what Bigga is saying. Dude in the black jacket corny as fuck for trying to start some shit on camera to look cool.
I consider myself a terrible communicator because the exact moment when people do that, I exit the conversation 😐 I do not have it in me to keep talking with whoever when that happens.
This exactly what Rizzoli Islam was talking about ..we always ready to fight one another or disrespect one another but never have anything for the enemy.
Watch thr clip back and listen to what he said...he never said kill the babies it only takes a minute to rewind n listen again makes it less stressful try it might help your comment next time an salute biggz that little ninja was disrepectful could a held corn for that...
That's that Boot camp Tek I know and respect. He stood up when his PNC got close to dude and stood behind him ready. Then he took front line and represented his brotha. Pac would be proud to see that. Rest up Sean P and one love to the Bootcamp Clicc
Nothing better than the black barbershop 💈 Our own Country Club!!!!! On another one Tek is really bout that life!!!!! Not sayin Bigga ain’t but Tek is one that will air that bitch out!! Real walkie talkie
@@DiggumSmack77 Tupac ran down on a man and inserted himself into a situation that he could have avoided, and he reaped the whirlwind of bullets for his actions
7:44 to 12:44 Steele stood up..for 5 minutes he held his ground and listened without saying a word... Definition of a solider..He held Tek down, Pac down, and Big by himself
@First Born Yeah I feel you. They weren't as mainstream as Mobb Deep. People never mix up Prodigy and Havoc, but I have mixed up Tek and Steele when I was younger.
He didn't jus stand up waz all n his chest ETC were IM FROM u get that close u gettin MASH UP $TRAIGHT UP BIG UP $TEEL N TEK CERTIFIED LIVE THOROUGH WARRIOR$ TRU$T ALREADY DUN KNO YAY THAT WAY 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯
Bigga's level of conversation was talking trivia amongst hip hop circles, whereas Tek and Steele were actually friends with Big & Pac. Bigga didn't read the crowd properly. For Tek & Steele it was like listening to someone talk about your personal business, with strong opinions based on 3rd hand gossip and misunderstood lyrics lol New York Babies!? wtf lol
What Bigga displayed was pure idiocy. He misquoted Pac and disrespected Tek & Steele off some shit he THOUGHT he heard, then he wasn't even man enough to correct himself. The definition of loud and wrong.
@@papinski1978 I don't know if "shut down" is the right word, but he was responsible for not letting inaccurate nonsense that's inflammatory fly on his platform.
This is how 90% of New York cats feel about 2pac. Much respect to Tek and Steele for fucking with the GOAT, thats why we show them love on the Westside
@@upclosenpersonal100 nah BTNH was reluctant to work with Biggie on behalf of their loyalty to Pac knowing Pac first but someone convinced them to work with Big. I can't remember who brought them together but that was good cuz ended up making the classic notorious thugs joint
@@67nBrynhurstCuh Eazy E did a lowkey show in NYC at the tunnel during the east/west drama, & surprisingly he got along with everybody there & also gave BTNH their shot with Big. Even more proof that the media done played everybody like a fiddle....
"Why would I wipe my feet on somebody's couch? Like that's something to do......yeah I wiped my feet on his couch.". Bigga just had a Rick James moment.😂
Bigga “2pac said kill all New York babies”, five minutes later Bigga “I never said 2pac said kill all New York babies. Five mins later Bigga “All New York babies”!😂😂😂
I heard him say fuck new york babies, but I missed him saying kill all new york babies. What's the time stamp? There's a lot of talking over eachother, I'm missing it lol
I felt Tek started to go that place long before he blew up . Steele was trying to be diplomatic and patient with Bigga, but Steele had the stance like ' Nah fuck this guy '.
Love how Tek stood up for Steele, and told Bigga, I don’t give a F*** how u feel, or how old u are, or who u came up with! 😂😂 he put Bigga in his place 🤣🤣
Boot Camp Clik niggahz known to get it in. Rock was ready to set it off on Notorious B.I.G. for having Starang Wondah jumped, but Dru Ha and BuckShot Shorty stopped him and Rock was so pissed about it, he left Boot Camp Clik for several years..
I think that's why math cut it.....💯 There's something bout bigga..... Niggas who are from the street and turn religious...... they not soft..... they just dnt like see the pain anymore. Bigga might just be one of the realest in there... He did fuck up the quote tho lol.
Bigga is TRIPPIN. Pac had so much love for New York. Pac had an issue with certain individuals who he felt wronged him, NOT THE WHOLE NEW YORK! All these years later and Bigga still in his feelings smh. 2Pac NEVER dissed the whole New York, he called out names! Thank you Math for being objective, especially as a Brooklyn dude.
@@wa11ace3 NY87 was an UNRELEASED SONG. It came out well after Pac passed. Also he made that song for Snoop because his trailer got shot up in Brooklyn. Bigga is out of line
@Bobby Flynn Pac threatened the kids of the people he was addressing, not the whole New York City. I'm not justifying what he said, I'm just making the Point he wasn't talking about everyone. Pac felt like he was done wrong and he retaliated with words. This was done over 25 years ago and Pac is gone. Bigga shouldnt still be in his feelings or feel that Boot Camp Click were traitors
@Bobby Flynn u fr bruh?? When has in any other convo/topic has someone associating or pointing someone at to specific people mean fuck everyone else’s 👶 . Bro litearly named the people he was dissing but nah it means f New York 😂😂😂😂 Shi like that jus doesn’t make sense. You Ny defenders cornballs
When Steele stood up to address Bigga about being young and around Pac, that was the moment Bigga should've shut his mouth and possibly learned about something he never knew about Pac and Biggie beef. In my opinion, Bigga FU@KED up a great moment to demonstrate to the youth how black men can resolve matters without violence. He's older now, as he says but clearly still immature as a juvenile. Math salute, my brother.
Bigga is just used to acting like a replace the B with an N and there’s that. You can’t make a mf who is used to being “BROLIC” humble. He had a god complex about himself because he is BIG BLACK AND UNCOMFORTABLE BUILT! He was mad at PAC and identified with Biggie only for two reasons and it ain’t EAST vs West beef😂😂😂😂😂🤣
Agreed Bigga don't say much in many if the episodes but then drops a pearl if wisdom. This time not so wise in word choice. I hope he stays and things worked out.
@@pay_it_forward_franklin4469 that's exactly what it was. That's why math Hoffa told him if you going to quote somebody say exactly the words don't make up your own interpretation like dude did
@greatest storyteller ever "motherf*cker, my .44 make sho' all y'all kids don't grow!" -2 Pac - where is Bigga from? - how old did Bigga say he was? - how old was the average-age on Hit em Up? #respektfully
@@joojoobaw Goofy ass. Man has to be a simpleton to turn that into ''He wanna kill all east coast baybeeez''. I thought he was cool somewhat) on the show before this. He's said some goofy shT before I could look past, but this was ultra stupid.
@@joojoobawNo he didn't hear that. Back then the media turned It Into a East vs West beef. So you diss a NY rapper, WE ALL TOOK IT AS US. Same for the West coast.
Salute SMIFF-N-WESSUN...Real 1's Thats how you speak up for your friends...LOYALTY even when they are not here. The way TEK stood up to watch his brothers back in such a heated moment is PRICELESS...💪🏿💯💪🏿.. "When I move, you Move"
This was unneccessary and draw the line. If you stand up, you want whatever but don't act up when you get put in your place. This is why they are barely invited. Two 40+ men acting like they are still running the streets 😂
@@rikkidgermano9640 they got told to their faces that they were traitors to NY. It dont get more NY than Smif-N-Wessun. Bigga meant it in a disrespectful way and DOUBLED DOWN even after Steele poignantly stated what he WITNESSED with his own two eyes with Pac in person. I can understand their anger.
you don't call a man a traitor and then be feeling some type of way when they speak to you with no filter...I love this duo, the 1 guy brings the wisdom and the 2nd guy brings the realness..
😂😂😂facts cause even though he’s from east Harlem New York but rep Cali harder his soul still in the hood flying around and u can tell cause we still talking about him them albums besides the one Eminem produced still getting played till this day young and old
They stood on business & his brother was ready 2 take it there for the sake of their Integrity. U can't call a man a "traitor" & then say he's disrespecting you!
Got love for my brothers holding Pac down, no lies should be said on that man's name. Pac still got a lot of cats emotional decades later the true GOAT.
He really tried to say pac said that about the whole New York pac was referring that to his enemies that was in New York I hate people that try and lie on pac name.
6:23 The realest words from Steele. Big respect to them having the most courage to go out there to Cali in the middle of a beef between the East and the West. With no hate towards Pac or Biggie.
The funny thing is that on Hit Em Up, Pac said that it was never meant to be a east coast vs west coast thing, his only issue was with Bad Boy and people made it a coastal beef.
Dogg pound already threw shots at New York, than 2pac on hit em up didnt only diss biggie and junior mafia but he also dissed chino xl and mobb deep......... you think the entire New York isnt gonna ride with biggie and mobb deep ....... once again 2pac ain't from the streets , dude had no street knowledge .....
@@chasenickles260 What exactly on New York, New York was even a diss? Wasn't Dogg Pound too busy beefing with Dresta and B.G. Knockout to even diss them?
@@dexenationgracey1979 knocking down New York buildings in a music video is a tribute ? Saying in hit em up, "anybody in New York wanna bring it they can bring it" Lol , even n.o.r.e cosigned what bigga said.......... 2pac could of been behind close doors making diss records just to sell albums, not realizing the type of drama it would of started on the streets........
@Chase nickles They did that because Biggie had his goons shoot up their trailer when they were filming the video. That wasn't in the original idea for the video.
When the drugs KICK IN type Talk!?!? Like: I said it.. 5mins Later, I ain't SAY that!?!? 5 min later YEAH, I said that and I say it again!! 5 mins later Y'all taking what I said wrong, I ain't say that!?!? 🤔🤔🤣😅😂🤣😅
Tek seen the direction this was headed as soon as Steele stood up. I'm not advocating any type of violence over words but to see the loyalty in being ready to hold your brother down at a moments notice speaks volumes to his character. Be mindful of the words you use fellas, a wrong place word could easily be misinterpreted. I hope this all defused and peace was born.
Favcts. Check the lyrics: Before Pac snapped on the end of that song, he did say " Any of you ni99as from New York that wanna bring, bring it..." After cutting up Mobb Deep, and anybody else associated with Bad Boy, then proceeds to say " All of yall motherf*ckers, f*ck you, die slow!" You can look at it both ways: Was he talking about everybody associated with Bad Boy or just NY ni99as in general?
@thedopestethiopian was it a specific group of people he was talking about or all new york kids??? Come on now. new york cats feel away about Pac, but never mention the bs that led up to the beef. Tge dusty niggas who ran a train on that girl, the broke cats that robbed and shot him, now they say Diddy was in the room with Jimmy when it happened that looks bad on them.
@@h3was547 He stood up just in case things went left like I said. Bigga is exactly what he name says, Bigga don't get me wrong I'm glad things didn't get physical but them east coast, west coast conversation are very sensitive.
12:31 You can tell it was about to go left when Tek remained standing and started cracking his knuckles lol Bigga could've express the feelings he had as a teenager without all this energy as an aldult.
Nope Bigga is just a real one. Just about everyone on the East coast wasn't feeling how Pac was moving back in 96. Musically Pac was popping, but over on the West Coast he was moving funny. Hollering Westside and West coast is the best coast constantly . He should have had a real one with him to put him in check, but it's understood with his hate for Biggie and with Suge Knight putting the batteries in his back and having him align with MOB he did what he had to do which also ultimately got him killed.
I would vow to bump nothing but Math Hoffa music every morning as long as these conversations were taking place on a regular basis. This is cathartic for Hip Hop 📻
@@hajiried5625 Turnt? That fool stayed in that seat until invited to stand. He knew he was in violation and Steele let him slide, but Tek had another agenda. When being “a real NewYork…” goes wrong, cause you only had an opportunity to be so in NewYork. I beg some of y’all domestic demons to travel abroad, outside of that city with that mentally and find out how real it really get. Humility will keep you from being humiliated.
White Mike from Martin when Martin called the hotel he grabbed the phone and said that shit one of my favorite episodes of Martin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣IM DYING RIGHT NOW 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You cannot tell a man who was literally there in midst of it about that situation when all you were was a listener. A lot of this goes on these days but it is so weird seeing it from an older generation. If you weren't there you simply can't comment on it, especially if you're going to misquote lyrics.
On the contrary, that type of attitude is prevalent in the older generation because they think they know everything and apparently they can't ever be wrong because they're older than you.
@@UFACIL Nah, a fool is a fool no matter what age. This type of attitude was present when he was a young man no doubt. It's called bullheadedness, which spans all age groups.
@@UFACIL He was the younger person in that situation. That doesn't count as older folks doing the same thing. If he really cared about the truth, he would have asked all the witnesses to validate, but he didn't. He's all emotional about a situation over 25 years old that he wasn't there for or understood.
BACKSTORY: Suge Knight stirred this pot directly after Pac's passing, he's definitely the man to blame but the media pushed it further than it was suppose to be
@@lnapjr76 Bigga was hurt that Smif N Wessun was with Pac that’s all! He call them traitors when they’re explaining the reason why they were there during the mist of it! Pac was doing an album to bring all coasts together 💯! Sadly that joint never came out officially
I knew Tec wasn’t feeling Bigga when he started cracking his knuckles. Bigga definitely needs to watch his delivery though. It’s HOW you say things that can be disrespectful too.
Being from Brownsville and knowing the reputation and respect Steele holds in the neighborhood, it’s hard to express how much respect he (and Tek) have. They’re the definition of solid… Bigga was out of line expressing himself like that to these legends. Just say that at 17 you got caught up in the media hype of the “East coast vs. West coast beef” and was too slow to realize it was really only an issue between 2 men (and by extension, 2 record labels).
@@lifestraight an open call to other rappers that was throwing subliminal shots at him not to the people of ny. He always showed love to the hoods of ny
@@lifestraight He was talking about who he had a issue with or who had a issue with him. He didn't say all of NY, matter fact in a interview he said was wasn't talking about NY as the state because he has people out there. Y'all taking shit way out of context.
DUNCE HE AINT GET CAUGHT UP IN SHIT STOP TRYING TO PUSH THAT BS FALSE NARRATIVE BECAUSE ITS FICTION. THAT SHIT BIGGA SPEAKING ON WASN'T EVEN N COVERED BY MEDIA AND IS EXA6WHAT REAL NYC DUDES WAS FEELING AFTER PAC SAID THAT BS. AND THE FACT IS US THAT TEK AND STEELE THOUGH ROCK SOLID AS MEN AND INTEGRITY WISE ABSOLUTELY NEVER HEARD THE STATEMENT FROM PAC MADE ON HUSSEIN FATALS RECORD. BOTTOM LINE PAC ABSOLUTELY NEVER SHOULD'VE BEEN SAYING ANYTHING LIKE THAT SPEAKING ON DOING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING INVOLVING DUDES KIDS .IT WAS STRAIGHT SUCKA SHIT AND DUDES HAD EVERY RIGHT TO FEEL THAT WAY.
“I miss when we ain’t have nothing to do”…that shit was real because having nothing to do, made you find something to do or talk about. Life was so much better before social media.
@@deekee4818 I feel you on that. Shiiid, I got people I be choppin’ it up wit’ this same way, as you stated. It’s all about knowing how to approach the conversation.
The ones that weren't there to experience and witness greatness will never know the chills it brings speaking on Pac and BIG because they both really should be here alive right now...Those two deaths right there killed a whole movement that we were robbed from experiencing...they died over BS...with PAC I believe our black race would've really grown right along with them both heading it lyrically and influentially for several generations...they were among the "1ST of the last poets" that actually gave us their truths, views on society, vulnerabilities and strengths through poetry to beats on the biggest platforms in RAP MUSIC at that time...back in the day we use to call gifted ones of word play "Poets!!" even "PROPHETS!!" "REVOLUTIONARIES!!" ...but these days they just simply call EVERYBODY a "RAPPER"
This is well said. Respect. But history has begun to put all the burden on Pac partly because Big never really entertained it. But if you was coming to see your man but got robbed accosted on the way way how would you want your man to react? That’s all Pac was saying not necessarily you had something to do with it or set it up but if you not with me you against me flat out!
Big couldn't really speak on it because it wasn't his place to get involved whether he knew about it or not (saying who it was and who was behind it etc.), it seemed like Pac was gonna get dealt with anyway no matter what.
MATH... BIG FLOWERS TO YOU BROTHER. This is one of the most impactful and powerful meeting of the minds I’ve seen in a long time. Brotherhood… Kingdom.
50 said it best “I want them to love me like they love Pac.” Pac was a different dude. Til this day he got brothas on the East and the West ready to fight on his behalf. He was born leader. Our generation’s Malcolm X..real talk
@@t33mc yeah Math handled this super professional but for Bigga to hold that in for 20+ years is self destructive. Hence the heated argument and the resentment behind his statements.
BIG RESPECT TO MATH FOR HAVING TEK AND STEELE ON THE SHOW TRUE LEGENDS TOO MANY HITS TOO MANY BANGERS NOTHING BUT BIG RESPECT AND LUV FOR THESE TWO 💯💯💯GREAT MCS
@@bettywhite5133 When I saw the post saying that Math is having issues with co hosts and they’re no longer on the show, I was hoping one of them was Bigga. He literally adds nothing but his own bullshit personal agenda (from religion to his NY bias) to the show. He been messing up the dynamic and groove of the show since he got on
@@TheRealLeonardWashington he would be cool if he didn’t always have to be right back,get mad when he ain’t right, and stop talking about Jesus all the time 🤣😂😳
This is how real ones sort it all out. All men of respect in the room and the conversation was needed. Im 60 yo and this is how real brothers get to the bottom of things. Much respect to every man in that room.
But in the end nothing was sorted out. It seemed to be heading that way but dude kept on firing back and Tek finally had enough of it and let off about it
I feel smiff and Wesson on dis one ☝️ like he said he was there, when u was there nobody can’t change your perspective on how u felt and went threw dat time of your life , dis was great dialogue, great one Hoffa ✊🏿❤️💯🫡🫡🫡
That's how powerful that man is. 26 years later an people are having heart felt arguments. Emotions be running wild.. 😂😂😂 . Tupac shakur the GOAT.👏🏾👏🏾💯
I have watched thousands of podcasts and i have to say this is on my top 3 most INTENSE podcasts that i have seen, i hope it repeats itself, you were great handling the situation Matt!!!
@iunderstan Photography This is childish goofy energy over a 25 year old song by a then hardly 25 year old rapper/actor. Bro should've let that goofy ish go over a decade ago.
Now this is the barbershop 🔥🔥🔥Love how Tec n Steele stick together like real soldiers. Loved how tech got in military stance to honor what his comrade was addressing and anything else to go with it!! That's how real niggaz supposed to move!🤞🏾🤞🏾💯💯BCC FOLIFE!
This seemed to be a very intense episode...I hope these brothas peaced it up b4 leaving the barbershop...Math goin down in history for having one of the best shows...PERIOD
Ain’t even mad at Tek at the end because Steele went through his breakdown showing much love and respect and understanding. And Bigga responded to that mad aggressive, pointing at him and poking him all in his chest and shit. Like Bigga didn’t calm down at all and receive what Steele was trying to say. But when someone (Tek) returned Bigga’s energy in kind, he got mad. I mean damn, dudes trying to be at peace over something from a quarter of a century ago and it’s like Bigga wanna get it poppin’ on some gangsta ish.
Why is he feeling a way about lyrics that had nothing to do with him ? Lmao…. Let alone make his own context out of the yrics. Pac was clearly speaking to bad boy, mobb deep & chino xl when he said that.
@@XMON888 nah.. that shit mad old. Bigga shouldn’t have reopened what’s obviously a wound unhealed. Tellling them in his young eyes they were traitors. Bigga didn’t know Pac.. BCC did.
@@XMON888 Bruh… check your laces cause you trippin. Bigga put that energy out first… and when he was met with that same energy he didnt like it. You receive the same energy you put out plain and simple. But trip… as far as this convo goes, it really aint that deep. Those who know, You know!!
That shit was lame as hell. Lookin like a goofy in the back ground. 5 seconds before his homie was checking him like he was a kid. Just have a solid conversation wit out all the extra corny tuff shit
This is what happens in life and especially in the Barbershops, intense conversation, debates, even arguments, but at the end of the day the important part about this to me, was being heard. That needed to happen, the passion that those brothers had was genuine. Hearing from someone who heard it from someone and hearing it from someone that was actually, physically there, I am glad it didn't go beyond that. Thank you Math, Salute to you and your team.
Naw, my barbershop is different feom those clowns in NY … Guy, got a full grey beard, saggin’ skinny jeans with a hoodie. I thought he was 18 until he turned around. NY ain’t ‘ish!
Bigga was on one tonight! 😂😂😂 He usually is the one that speaks some positivity but that new hair cut got Bigga acting different!!! 😂😂😂😂 Best Podcast on the planet!!!
Everyone that reads this during the clip playing….PLEASE WATCH UNTIL THE END 🔥🔥🔥
Tupac wil always strike a nerve
I never looked at Tek & Steele as traitors...they always came off as some real stand up dudes...1 of my favorite rap duo's ever when I was coming up...salute Math & shouts out from Baltimore to the whole M.E.O show
@@viwempofu6364 facts 😂😂😂
Smiff n Wessun RODE for PAC since I remember hearing about them! Them 2 guus would still shoot and take bullets TO THIS DAY Over Pac !!! Them 2 guys Rode more for Pac than the Outlaws no disrespect but gotta keep it a 100 !!!! MATH HOFFA YOU A PROBLEM NIGGA KEEP GOING !!! BIGGA GOTTA CHIIL THE F OUT OR GO........ @MATH HOFFA
Tek & Steele !? What!!? Traitors!!? NEVA DAT THE WHOLE BCC HELDBPAC DOWN. THEY WAS SELF CONTAINED AND GREAT MEN .
Bigga is on here with the silk shirt looking like Booker T from his WCW days 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can u dig it sucka shirt ass 😂😂😂😂😂
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The Harlem Heat days 😂😂
That man held a grudge for almost 30 years based on misunderstood rap lyrics. 💀💀💀
That fool has been goofy since the Tony yayo interview probably before that 2
Nah he understood
Pac was talking about NY niggas greasy
Nah it wasnt misunderstood rap lyrics. Bigga is right, Tupac did say "my 44 make sure all your kids dont grow".
And Tupac clearly said "if you down with bad boys, fuck you too, "all you motherfuckers fuck you". Clear as day, if you were a new york dude out on the streets you take that personal and that's what Bigga is saying. Dude in the black jacket corny as fuck for trying to start some shit on camera to look cool.
@@nathandrivelordkingalwaysr513word he gives out a weird energy in some interviews
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It’s always annoying when you’re in a heated debate and have to remind someone of something they JUST said and they deny it. Shit is stressful. 😅
100 Bigga was talking convoluted. Nigga can't remember what he said. 🤦🏿♂️
I consider myself a terrible communicator because the exact moment when people do that, I exit the conversation 😐 I do not have it in me to keep talking with whoever when that happens.
When that happens I just stop and walk away because if you can't admit what you said I have no words for you.
This exactly what Rizzoli Islam was talking about ..we always ready to fight one another or disrespect one another but never have anything for the enemy.
Watch thr clip back and listen to what he said...he never said kill the babies it only takes a minute to rewind n listen again makes it less stressful try it might help your comment next time an salute biggz that little ninja was disrepectful could a held corn for that...
That's that Boot camp Tek I know and respect. He stood up when his PNC got close to dude and stood behind him ready. Then he took front line and represented his brotha. Pac would be proud to see that. Rest up Sean P and one love to the Bootcamp Clicc
You peep that yo move in the ready position immediately
He was a bodyguard first and foremost. And he box . 😂
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Big respect to general tec and Steele. 30 years strong and still dope. Boot camp forever. And rest eternal to my favorite emcee Sean P
@@brocklandersfulBK 💪🏾
You know it's a real barbershop conversation when ppl stand up to prove their point. 😆
Ha ha this is the barber shoppest moment i’ve ever seen on this show. Reminds me of chicago barber shops in the 90s
FYI the 44 make sure all yo kids won’t grow is him talking to Chino XL
I miss the barbershop 💈 days
Facts
Nothing better than the black barbershop 💈 Our own Country Club!!!!! On another one Tek is really bout that life!!!!! Not sayin Bigga ain’t but Tek is one that will air that bitch out!! Real walkie talkie
The PAC & Biggie situation still hurts. Just shows what we lost. Rest In Peace
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Because people act like they were more than just 2 rappers. That's all they were. Violent, promiscuous men who were no better than anyone else
@@silverxanderman7092 - No, it's because they died over senseless bullshit.
@@DiggumSmack77 Tupac ran down on a man and inserted himself into a situation that he could have avoided, and he reaped the whirlwind of bullets for his actions
You’re absolutely 💯 in this assessment ❤️🙏🏽
I'm definitely on Smiff n Wess side 100%, THEY WERE THERE!💯
7:44 to 12:44 Steele stood up..for 5 minutes he held his ground and listened without saying a word... Definition of a solider..He held Tek down, Pac down, and Big by himself
You got it mixed up. Steele was the one talking. Tek is the one standing up with his arms folded.
@@lifestraight thanks bro... I bought they first album I think in 1995, and still get they're names mixed up lol..Salute
@First Born Yeah I feel you. They weren't as mainstream as Mobb Deep. People never mix up Prodigy and Havoc, but I have mixed up Tek and Steele when I was younger.
He didn't jus stand up waz all n his chest ETC were IM FROM u get that close u gettin MASH UP $TRAIGHT UP BIG UP $TEEL N TEK CERTIFIED LIVE THOROUGH WARRIOR$ TRU$T ALREADY DUN KNO YAY THAT WAY 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯
Tek a savage for that. Real G
Big said “stop, let me answer my question” 😂😂😂😂
Peep Biggas Haircut 🤣
Yoooooooooooo for real 😅😅😅
Yoo you caught that. 😂😂
That nixca Bigga is crazy he shouldn't speak maybe? The figinger pointing was insane in this video
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Low cut Bigga is different
Bigga's level of conversation was talking trivia amongst hip hop circles, whereas Tek and Steele were actually friends with Big & Pac. Bigga didn't read the crowd properly. For Tek & Steele it was like listening to someone talk about your personal business, with strong opinions based on 3rd hand gossip and misunderstood lyrics lol New York Babies!? wtf lol
What Bigga displayed was pure idiocy. He misquoted Pac and disrespected Tek & Steele off some shit he THOUGHT he heard, then he wasn't even man enough to correct himself. The definition of loud and wrong.
Lmaooooo "NEW YORK BABIES" 🤣🤣🤣
@@WatchYourMouth97 😂😂😂 he a whole 🤡
BINGO!
@@FBaned LMAOOOO i was like what song was that!??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Facts
Tek was there he don’t have to give af about what anyone else has to say 💪🏿💯
Appreciate Math for shutting this down and not trying to capture a moment on camera for views. Maintaining safety is always more important. RESPECT!!!
Did he shut it down tho? He still aired it. 😏
@@papinski1978 I don't know if "shut down" is the right word, but he was responsible for not letting inaccurate nonsense that's inflammatory fly on his platform.
Stop being slow!! He aired the fv
@@t33mc facts, now I see why the other two dudes left 😂 🤣 😒
@@papinski1978 Right
This is how 90% of New York cats feel about 2pac. Much respect to Tek and Steele for fucking with the GOAT, thats why we show them love on the Westside
Like Bone Thugs N Harmony, Smif N Wessun & even E-Money Bags were heavily associated with both Pac & Big.
@@upclosenpersonal100 nah BTNH was reluctant to work with Biggie on behalf of their loyalty to Pac knowing Pac first but someone convinced them to work with Big. I can't remember who brought them together but that was good cuz ended up making the classic notorious thugs joint
@@67nBrynhurstCuh Eazy E did a lowkey show in NYC at the tunnel during the east/west drama, & surprisingly he got along with everybody there & also gave BTNH their shot with Big. Even more proof that the media done played everybody like a fiddle....
Tbh some of the most NYC niggas are some of the biggest hypocrites ever
Tupac came at biggie you come at New York
The fact we still talk about Bigg and Pac speaks volumes. Rest easy take
Really people mostly talk about pac and bigg is brought up because of the beef..
@@Usernotknown21 exactly
@@Usernotknown21 come on men stop in Micheal Jackson voice
What’s crazy is nobody in there actually knew the lyric. They just knew he didn’t say that. I know Hit Em up word for word. NY really hated Tupac
@@thesupervisor3270 not in my house on Hancock.
"Why would I wipe my feet on somebody's couch? Like that's something to do......yeah I wiped my feet on his couch.". Bigga just had a Rick James moment.😂
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He need the home stenographer or the midget travel stenographer!😂
and Rick James was high as a kite for a decade. Whats Bigga's excuse?
LMFAO!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bigga “2pac said kill all New York babies”, five minutes later Bigga “I never said 2pac said kill all New York babies. Five mins later Bigga “All New York babies”!😂😂😂
That's just goes to show that bigga don't do his research lol #themoreyouknow🌠😂😂😂
I heard him say fuck new york babies, but I missed him saying kill all new york babies. What's the time stamp? There's a lot of talking over eachother, I'm missing it lol
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Yea he threw me off😂😂😂😂😂
Just wanted to hate on PAC. We hate you too Bigga. Ws up!!
THIS IS THE EPISODE WHERE IT TURNED INTO A REAL BARBERSHOP. THANKS MATH. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Niggas still gettin' amped over Pac and Biggie almost 30 years after their deaths... crazy.
Facts. Half truths and yelling
WRONG Yayo was the one
Gott go back and watch tayo. It got real, and I agreed w both sides.
@@madabawi8879 Big Factoooooo NFS He’s the Catalyst of what’s about to come up ☝🏽 They Mad cuz it was Niggas from Queens 😮💨🤫
I'm from Brooklyn and we loved Boot Camp. They were never looked at as traitors in my hood. Salute to Tek for standing his ground.
Not in Philly either. Ever. We never had no issues with anyone from Boot Camp!
#peace "my enemies-enemies
is my friend" #thoughtz?
HE ALWAYS DOES! FAM IS A G IN MY BOOK HE CHECKED NORE THE SAME WAY! SALUTE TO SMOKEE LAH. CHICAGO FUX WIT THE GOD.
Facts! The real ones knew the East vs West thing was blown up by the media. I was only mad that he went at Mobb Deep and Nas lol
Same goes for Meth & Red who had ties with Pac, even Treach!
This ain’t a fight or argument this a real passionate conversation . You can feel the pain .
Facts
I felt Tek started to go that place long before he blew up . Steele was trying to be diplomatic and patient with Bigga, but Steele had the stance like ' Nah fuck this guy '.
So which one was biggie closer to the light skin one or dark skin one
@@kingsports1113 Tek the dark skin one
@@camm8642 thanks n wat crazy buckshot brother godmother is biggie mother
Tek wasn’t playing at all! You can tell Steele was more peace, Tek is too but he’ll fuck up some shit
The way the room went quiet after Tek said “don’t do that shit with my brother!”
TEK gets ALL THE GOD POINTS on this one......#BROTHERSKEEPER #STAYREADY #SOUNDBWOY #BUCKTOWN !!!
On god
@@RaymondLee27 yea ok
Love how Tek stood up for Steele, and told Bigga, I don’t give a F*** how u feel, or how old u are, or who u came up with! 😂😂 he put Bigga in his place 🤣🤣
As he should’ve. He seen that nigga was tryna test Steele from the door. Tek talk less and do more. My kinda attitude.
Na, he was just very disrespectful.
I wish that I had a Brother like him but...I dont
@@TheHitman- He matched his energy.
Lmao he always talking about “ I’m older so I know more” shit, foh !
Tek was ready to black as soon as he stood up he was waiting to see which way the convo went. The subtle knuckle cracking says it all 💯
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Tek def was ready to hold.shit down !!!
Facts like a Trillion Timberland Tress..!!
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Boot Camp Clik niggahz known to get it in. Rock was ready to set it off on Notorious B.I.G. for having Starang Wondah jumped, but Dru Ha and BuckShot Shorty stopped him and Rock was so pissed about it, he left Boot Camp Clik for several years..
Bigga lookin' like "I slap the shit out you for no reason"........ 90's Pimp Style 😂
I think that's why math cut it.....💯
There's something bout bigga.....
Niggas who are from the street and turn religious...... they not soft..... they just dnt like see the pain anymore.
Bigga might just be one of the realest in there...
He did fuck up the quote tho lol.
I don't think y'all know who smiff n wessun is dem niggaz is not scared of bigga, it would have been a brawl in there
Ayoooo 😂😂
@@ftwdamfseyg right these guys have no clue about BCC and that biggie issue was because of the altercation with the OGC member
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Bigga is TRIPPIN. Pac had so much love for New York. Pac had an issue with certain individuals who he felt wronged him, NOT THE WHOLE NEW YORK! All these years later and Bigga still in his feelings smh. 2Pac NEVER dissed the whole New York, he called out names! Thank you Math for being objective, especially as a Brooklyn dude.
He dissed NY on unreleased track called “NY 87” …UA-cam it ..
he bigga, not \J T the bigga figga
@@wa11ace3 NY87 was an UNRELEASED SONG. It came out well after Pac passed. Also he made that song for Snoop because his trailer got shot up in Brooklyn. Bigga is out of line
@Bobby Flynn Pac threatened the kids of the people he was addressing, not the whole New York City. I'm not justifying what he said, I'm just making the Point he wasn't talking about everyone. Pac felt like he was done wrong and he retaliated with words. This was done over 25 years ago and Pac is gone. Bigga shouldnt still be in his feelings or feel that Boot Camp Click were traitors
@Bobby Flynn u fr bruh?? When has in any other convo/topic has someone associating or pointing someone at to specific people mean fuck everyone else’s 👶 . Bro litearly named the people he was dissing but nah it means f New York 😂😂😂😂 Shi like that jus doesn’t make sense. You Ny defenders cornballs
When Steele stood up to address Bigga about being young and around Pac, that was the moment Bigga should've shut his mouth and possibly learned about something he never knew about Pac and Biggie beef. In my opinion, Bigga FU@KED up a great moment to demonstrate to the youth how black men can resolve matters without violence. He's older now, as he says but clearly still immature as a juvenile. Math salute, my brother.
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Bigga is just used to acting like a replace the B with an N and there’s that. You can’t make a mf who is used to being “BROLIC” humble. He had a god complex about himself because he is BIG BLACK AND UNCOMFORTABLE BUILT! He was mad at PAC and identified with Biggie only for two reasons and it ain’t EAST vs West beef😂😂😂😂😂🤣
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Agreed
Bigga don't say much in many if the episodes but then drops a pearl if wisdom. This time not so wise in word choice.
I hope he stays and things worked out.
Dude embarrassed himself in so many ways 🤦♂️
Facts over feelings. One side was there talking to the people while the other side just heard a song and rumors and went off of what they felt.
Facts! Niggas was riding and really didn't even know what they were riding for.
You're using hindsight When you're a teenager you use feelings over facts
@@mayankingrevisited8815 regardless, there's still a wrong and a right.
Shout out to math Hoffa! This man Defended Tupac. With honor and integrity and did not let his comrades get away with the slander. Salute
#peace slander? #praytell
Facts! The generation that was teens during the EvW beef give it up for Pac
@@pay_it_forward_franklin4469 that's exactly what it was. That's why math Hoffa told him if you going to quote somebody say exactly the words don't make up your own interpretation like dude did
@greatest storyteller ever
"motherf*cker, my .44 make sho'
all y'all kids don't grow!"
-2 Pac
- where is Bigga from?
- how old did Bigga say he was?
- how old was the average-age on Hit em Up?
#respektfully
@@ZYaKnoe249 actualy pac flew them to LA . they belong to the Boot Camp Clik to work on a compilation album
Pac said my 44 MAKE SURE ALL THEY KIDS DONT GROW he was talking bout the ones he was into with
in his mind he heard “make sure all New York kids don’t grow” 😂
@@joojoobaw Goofy ass. Man has to be a simpleton to turn that into ''He wanna kill all east coast baybeeez''. I thought he was cool somewhat) on the show before this. He's said some goofy shT before I could look past, but this was ultra stupid.
@@joojoobawNo he didn't hear that. Back then the media turned It Into a East vs West beef. So you diss a NY rapper, WE ALL TOOK IT AS US. Same for the West coast.
It was 2 versions of hit em up 🤦🏾♂️ he was aiming at the whole NY in the original till a few rappers checked him about it.
"all y'all kids" referring to mobb,big,cease,,etc because they were younger than pac
Salute SMIFF-N-WESSUN...Real 1's
Thats how you speak up for your friends...LOYALTY even when they are not here. The way TEK stood up to watch his brothers back in such a heated moment is PRICELESS...💪🏿💯💪🏿.. "When I move, you Move"
lol immature..i hate the hood cause of this mentality..
Just like *that* (what we just saw)
This was unneccessary and draw the line. If you stand up, you want whatever but don't act up when you get put in your place. This is why they are barely invited. Two 40+ men acting like they are still running the streets 😂
@@rikkidgermano9640 they got told to their faces that they were traitors to NY. It dont get more NY than Smif-N-Wessun. Bigga meant it in a disrespectful way and DOUBLED DOWN even after Steele poignantly stated what he WITNESSED with his own two eyes with Pac in person. I can understand their anger.
@@rikkidgermano9640 Bigga was standing up first
you don't call a man a traitor and then be feeling some type of way when they speak to you with no filter...I love this duo, the 1 guy brings the wisdom and the 2nd guy brings the realness..
@B'hoy TV100 that was way out of bounds...and the crazy thing is, he led with that
He was talking about how he felt as a child
@@1stKindChris watch it again
@@Str8FWD913 on so many levels...he even denied saying something he said seconds ago lol
@@mlondimbambo693 you watch it again, he said numerous times this is how he felt when he was 17.
I love the brothers energy. Stand up for what you believe in. Back down to nobody, no matter their size or who they are.
2pac long gone and still getting this reaction out of NY niggas. Don’t tell me my man wasn’t the GOAT😂
Facts
PAC was a NY dude bozo 😂😂
😂😂😂facts cause even though he’s from east Harlem New York but rep Cali harder his soul still in the hood flying around and u can tell cause we still talking about him them albums besides the one Eminem produced still getting played till this day young and old
Facts
@MauricioSandoval-xc9ih he clearly didn't claim yall😂😂
That's called standing on it! SALUTE Tek & Steele!
They stood on business & his brother was ready 2 take it there for the sake of their Integrity. U can't call a man a "traitor" & then say he's disrespecting you!
This was authentic and pure real barbershop feeling
Got love for my brothers holding Pac down, no lies should be said on that man's name. Pac still got a lot of cats emotional decades later the true GOAT.
That man was gay 🤣
FACTZ ! PAC exposed and continues to expose the ho in naggas
He really tried to say pac said that about the whole New York pac was referring that to his enemies that was in New York I hate people that try and lie on pac name.
6:23 The realest words from Steele. Big respect to them having the most courage to go out there to Cali in the middle of a beef between the East and the West. With no hate towards Pac or Biggie.
"I'm not just gonna grind my feet on somebody's couch. Come'on, I got more since than that... Yeah I remember grinding my feet on Eddie's couch."
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What?
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When he said I don't give a fuck about non of that.... I felt that 🤣🤣🤣
I feel the same way
He said I don’t care either
This Is How You Stick Up For Your Friends 💯
& Brothers!!
That’s all they know is Pnc life. Especially running with Deceps
Facts
The funny thing is that on Hit Em Up, Pac said that it was never meant to be a east coast vs west coast thing, his only issue was with Bad Boy and people made it a coastal beef.
Dogg pound already threw shots at New York, than 2pac on hit em up didnt only diss biggie and junior mafia but he also dissed chino xl and mobb deep......... you think the entire New York isnt gonna ride with biggie and mobb deep ....... once again 2pac ain't from the streets , dude had no street knowledge .....
@@chasenickles260 What exactly on New York, New York was even a diss? Wasn't Dogg Pound too busy beefing with Dresta and B.G. Knockout to even diss them?
@@dexenationgracey1979 knocking down New York buildings in a music video is a tribute ?
Saying in hit em up, "anybody in New York wanna bring it they can bring it"
Lol , even n.o.r.e cosigned what bigga said..........
2pac could of been behind close doors making diss records just to sell albums, not realizing the type of drama it would of started on the streets........
@Chase nickles They did that because Biggie had his goons shoot up their trailer when they were filming the video. That wasn't in the original idea for the video.
@@chasenickles260 People think that their trailer was shot as a response to the video, but the video was actually a response to the shooting.
Bigga DEFINITELY said it! Afterwards said "I never said that!" Then said the shit AGAIN near the end 🤦🏿♂️
That's what happens when emotions are on high
Brooooooo 😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Bigga is that old head that be having all the young heads in beef 😂 he needs to chill
When the drugs KICK IN type Talk!?!? Like: I said it.. 5mins Later, I ain't SAY that!?!? 5 min later YEAH, I said that and I say it again!! 5 mins later Y'all taking what I said wrong, I ain't say that!?!? 🤔🤔🤣😅😂🤣😅
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Bigga got a fresh cut and stopped being humble 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I fully agree, ((Bigga)) was like the big humble big man, is getting to spicy, out of line..... Yh the haircut gave him super power ⛽️ 🔋 💪🏾 🗣
Omg 😂😅😂😂😅😂 yup !
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I was wondering like where the locks at
Nigga got that 1990 BOOKER T HARLEM HEAT Fresh Cut 😂😂😂
Tek seen the direction this was headed as soon as Steele stood up. I'm not advocating any type of violence over words but to see the loyalty in being ready to hold your brother down at a moments notice speaks volumes to his character. Be mindful of the words you use fellas, a wrong place word could easily be misinterpreted. I hope this all defused and peace was born.
None of them would try this with Game. He’s the Black Slim Shady. Em’s the wack Slim Shady. Let’s go!
@@BlackFaithProduction dont be weird fam!
@@olskoolbkbk316 my man is weird ASF yo.
That's because he knows his man 25 plus years in the game you know when something's not right with this type of vibe
@@BlackFaithProduction 🤡🤡🤡🤡
12:25 grafh trying his hardest to drop his " jewels" but nobody wanna hear him..shit had me dying😂😂 he tried so hard
“My 44 makes sure all yall kids don’t grow” I guess that’s the quote Bigga was referring to
Favcts. Check the lyrics: Before Pac snapped on the end of that song, he did say " Any of you ni99as from New York that wanna bring, bring it..." After cutting up Mobb Deep, and anybody else associated with Bad Boy, then proceeds to say " All of yall motherf*ckers, f*ck you, die slow!" You can look at it both ways: Was he talking about everybody associated with Bad Boy or just NY ni99as in general?
Naw he said kill New York babies. Lol
@thedopestethiopian was it a specific group of people he was talking about or all new york kids??? Come on now. new york cats feel away about Pac, but never mention the bs that led up to the beef. Tge dusty niggas who ran a train on that girl, the broke cats that robbed and shot him, now they say Diddy was in the room with Jimmy when it happened that looks bad on them.
MATH THANK YOU FOR HAVING THESE INTERVIEWS!
Organically they've put together great interviews
Typical nigga
Can’t believe you got Smif N Wessun on. Math you are bringing real heat and hiphop back to life
Love that loyal to end for Tupac Shakur
Salute the homies for standing up for Pac and for there truth. RIP HUSSEIN FATAL AND KILLA KHADAFI
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I laughed so hard @ 4:56 "Stop, Let me answer my question".
"How you gonna answer ya own question?" 🤣
Lmaooooooo
It's good to see Tek and Steele vouching and standing up for Pac til this day. They've been bigging up Pac since 97
They solid fr Rest in Power Pac
pac was a clown
@@thdoom81 You're entitled to your opinion.
@@thdoom81 Based on what?
@@thatguyfrom313 Let the groupie explain…
Tek was 100% they were dealing with the craziest shit during East Vs West
Peep how TEK holding STEEL down while he talks to Bigga just in case shit go left.
Jumping somebody ain't cool. He stood up like he wanted to hit him talking bout a hypothetical shooting somebody in the head.🤦🏾♂️
@@h3was547 He stood up just in case things went left like I said. Bigga is exactly what he name says, Bigga don't get me wrong I'm glad things didn't get physical but them east coast, west coast conversation are very sensitive.
As he should💪🏾
@@Stillgotbarz it is it brought me back to that time and I’m from the south but I rode with PAC and damn I’m in tears right now!!
@@Lyvette2000 I feel u!!!
12:31 You can tell it was about to go left when Tek remained standing and started cracking his knuckles lol Bigga could've express the feelings he had as a teenager without all this energy as an aldult.
Yeah I caught that too. Bigga was wildin on this one.
Bigga wasn’t wilding cause he let tek talk that shit in his face.Then he spoke. Ugg’s would krush both them if shit got funky c’mon man.
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“Whether I heard it or not y’all missing the point” this man Bigga is INSANE
not insane hes just older and a bit slower moving
Nope Bigga is just a real one. Just about everyone on the East coast wasn't feeling how Pac was moving back in 96. Musically Pac was popping, but over on the West Coast he was moving funny. Hollering Westside and West coast is the best coast constantly . He should have had a real one with him to put him in check, but it's understood with his hate for Biggie and with Suge Knight putting the batteries in his back and having him align with MOB he did what he had to do which also ultimately got him killed.
Makes absolutely no sense at all when he speaks… His only conscious thread of reasoning is when he’s talking about the Bible
My 44 make sure all y’all kids don’t grow?
@@tayluc777 He mentioned all the people he was talking about in the rap. Not all of New York
I would vow to bump nothing but Math Hoffa music every morning as long as these conversations were taking place on a regular basis. This is cathartic for Hip Hop 📻
Mecca got… Let’s say… 5 more episodes left in him. He’s sitting there like “this isn’t what I signed up for” 😂
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
I didnt even see mecca
Yup
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He’s useless!!
When one stood up they both stood up! Old school true school way!!✊️💪
Tek was ready to go bro!💪🏾
Which is a sign of incoming combat , they both should’ve stay they asses in their chairs lol. Bigga was turnt the moment they stood up,
@@hajiried5625 Turnt? That fool stayed in that seat until invited to stand. He knew he was in violation and Steele let him slide, but Tek had another agenda. When being “a real NewYork…” goes wrong, cause you only had an opportunity to be so in NewYork. I beg some of y’all domestic demons to travel abroad, outside of that city with that mentally and find out how real it really get. Humility will keep you from being humiliated.
Tech didn’t care he wouldn’t fought his way out lol.
“ I’m outta Control , your outta control , this whole dammm interview is outta control “ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
White Mike from Martin when Martin called the hotel he grabbed the phone and said that shit one of my favorite episodes of Martin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣IM DYING RIGHT NOW 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Marty Mar 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Shout out to you for the Martin reference!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂 wats that dude name
With the Al Pacino voice LOL
You cannot tell a man who was literally there in midst of it about that situation when all you were was a listener. A lot of this goes on these days but it is so weird seeing it from an older generation. If you weren't there you simply can't comment on it, especially if you're going to misquote lyrics.
On the contrary, that type of attitude is prevalent in the older generation because they think they know everything and apparently they can't ever be wrong because they're older than you.
@@UFACIL Nah, a fool is a fool no matter what age. This type of attitude was present when he was a young man no doubt. It's called bullheadedness, which spans all age groups.
@@UFACIL He was the younger person in that situation. That doesn't count as older folks doing the same thing. If he really cared about the truth, he would have asked all the witnesses to validate, but he didn't. He's all emotional about a situation over 25 years old that he wasn't there for or understood.
BACKSTORY: Suge Knight stirred this pot directly after Pac's passing, he's definitely the man to blame but the media pushed it further than it was suppose to be
And to call them traders so disrespectful
"Die slow ,my fofo ,(,44)
Will make sure all your kids don't grow" on Hit'em up. I'm thinking that's what he's talking about.
Towards his enemies not the whole NYC
That was a direct line to the people he was beefing with. This was not directed to the entire east coast.
That dude is way off.
@@lnapjr76 Bigga was hurt that Smif N Wessun was with Pac that’s all! He call them traitors when they’re explaining the reason why they were there during the mist of it! Pac was doing an album to bring all coasts together 💯! Sadly that joint never came out officially
2pac still got the juice…..his name still being mentioned living legend….
Amen 🙏🏿
I knew Tec wasn’t feeling Bigga when he started cracking his knuckles. Bigga definitely needs to watch his delivery though. It’s HOW you say things that can be disrespectful too.
Facts! What was u trying bring back?! Old beef!
Math was getting sick of Biggs now bigga gone
Being from Brownsville and knowing the reputation and respect Steele holds in the neighborhood, it’s hard to express how much respect he (and Tek) have. They’re the definition of solid… Bigga was out of line expressing himself like that to these legends. Just say that at 17 you got caught up in the media hype of the “East coast vs. West coast beef” and was too slow to realize it was really only an issue between 2 men (and by extension, 2 record labels).
Exactly 💯
Nah Pac made a open call to NY when he said "Any of you New York niggas wanna bring it, bring it."
@@lifestraight an open call to other rappers that was throwing subliminal shots at him not to the people of ny. He always showed love to the hoods of ny
@@lifestraight He was talking about who he had a issue with or who had a issue with him. He didn't say all of NY, matter fact in a interview he said was wasn't talking about NY as the state because he has people out there. Y'all taking shit way out of context.
DUNCE HE AINT GET CAUGHT UP IN SHIT STOP TRYING TO PUSH THAT BS FALSE NARRATIVE BECAUSE ITS FICTION. THAT SHIT BIGGA SPEAKING ON WASN'T EVEN N COVERED BY MEDIA AND IS EXA6WHAT REAL NYC DUDES WAS FEELING AFTER PAC SAID THAT BS. AND THE FACT IS US THAT TEK AND STEELE THOUGH ROCK SOLID AS MEN AND INTEGRITY WISE ABSOLUTELY NEVER HEARD THE STATEMENT FROM PAC MADE ON HUSSEIN FATALS RECORD. BOTTOM LINE PAC ABSOLUTELY NEVER SHOULD'VE BEEN SAYING ANYTHING LIKE THAT SPEAKING ON DOING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING INVOLVING DUDES KIDS .IT WAS STRAIGHT SUCKA SHIT AND DUDES HAD EVERY RIGHT TO FEEL THAT WAY.
I miss when we didn’t have nothing to do, this guy is awakened spiritually ❤♥️🙏
“I miss when we ain’t have nothing to do”…that shit was real because having nothing to do, made you find something to do or talk about. Life was so much better before social media.
And half the time it wound up just like this clip did. Lol. But you really got to know people
Kid killed it wit that....
@@deekee4818 I feel you on that. Shiiid, I got people I be choppin’ it up wit’ this same way, as you stated. It’s all about knowing how to approach the conversation.
@@seanthornton6844 realist shit ever. I miss slidin’ over my homies crib or they slidin’ to mine and we findin’ somethin’ to do.
Powerful and exact statement
The ones that weren't there to experience and witness greatness will never know the chills it brings speaking on Pac and BIG because they both really should be here alive right now...Those two deaths right there killed a whole movement that we were robbed from experiencing...they died over BS...with PAC I believe our black race would've really grown right along with them both heading it lyrically and influentially for several generations...they were among the "1ST of the last poets" that actually gave us their truths, views on society, vulnerabilities and strengths through poetry to beats on the biggest platforms in RAP MUSIC at that time...back in the day we use to call gifted ones of word play "Poets!!" even "PROPHETS!!" "REVOLUTIONARIES!!"
...but these days they just simply call EVERYBODY a "RAPPER"
nuff said my brother
@@malikmogekwu9781 #1NATION
This is well said. Respect. But history has begun to put all the burden on Pac partly because Big never really entertained it. But if you was coming to see your man but got robbed accosted on the way way how would you want your man to react? That’s all Pac was saying not necessarily you had something to do with it or set it up but if you not with me you against me flat out!
Big couldn't really speak on it because it wasn't his place to get involved whether he knew about it or not (saying who it was and who was behind it etc.), it seemed like Pac was gonna get dealt with anyway no matter what.
They're not even "rappers"........just "entertainers" and weirdos chasing clout over wack beats.
MATH... BIG FLOWERS TO YOU BROTHER.
This is one of the most impactful and powerful meeting of the minds I’ve seen in a long time. Brotherhood… Kingdom.
50 said it best “I want them to love me like they love Pac.” Pac was a different dude. Til this day he got brothas on the East and the West ready to fight on his behalf. He was born leader. Our generation’s Malcolm X..real talk
Yes he was,I sometimes wonder if he was here what he would say about Trump.
He’s bigger then Malcom
@@Lyvette2000he would think he’s cool just like every rich black person does lol
Old Head been holding that shat in for decades 😭😭
This was a visual representation of holding years worth of bitterness inside. Bigga needs healing 💫
Bigga is playing hop scotch with righteousness and street OG!!
@@t33mc but the bitterness behind it was unhealthy.
@@NVTIVE247 Math got the clip he needed, no need to stay at work longer when the job is already done... hence "Shut this sh1t down"
@@t33mc yeah Math handled this super professional but for Bigga to hold that in for 20+ years is self destructive. Hence the heated argument and the resentment behind his statements.
BIG RESPECT TO MATH FOR HAVING TEK AND STEELE ON THE SHOW TRUE LEGENDS TOO MANY HITS TOO MANY BANGERS NOTHING BUT BIG RESPECT AND LUV FOR THESE TWO 💯💯💯GREAT MCS
Facts
Smif n Wessun are fucking GOATS. One of the greatest experiences of my life was holdin a cipher down with these 2
Bigga ABSOLUTELY said it 😂
In his mind he’s ALWAYS right 😂
He should of got fired too.
@@bettywhite5133 When I saw the post saying that Math is having issues with co hosts and they’re no longer on the show, I was hoping one of them was Bigga. He literally adds nothing but his own bullshit personal agenda (from religion to his NY bias) to the show. He been messing up the dynamic and groove of the show since he got on
He be trippin bruh 😂
@@TheRealLeonardWashington he would be cool if he didn’t always have to be right back,get mad when he ain’t right, and stop talking about Jesus all the time 🤣😂😳
@@TheRealLeonardWashington Which post was that?
It makes me proud too hear when the real New York speak up for PAC
Facts
Regardless of where he chose to love and rep at the end, he was still from and loved here
Fuck the east coast west side for life
That One Nation album wit Pac and BCC woulda changed alot of shit. Atleast I got to hear one song from it, the joint wit Boot Camp.
Pac is from New York people tend to forget
General Steele was preaching … had me tear up … the passion is so real …
This is how real ones sort it all out. All men of respect in the room and the conversation was needed.
Im 60 yo and this is how real brothers get to the bottom of things. Much respect to every man in that room.
But in the end nothing was sorted out. It seemed to be heading that way but dude kept on firing back and Tek finally had enough of it and let off about it
My bad I didn't catch the followup to this where Tek and Bigga hugged it out at the end. That's how it should always end 💪
Legendary Build! Real talk amongst men! TEK and STEELE are the realest! Thanks for this spotlight, Math. Keep the good sh!t comin'!
I feel smiff and Wesson on dis one ☝️ like he said he was there, when u was there nobody can’t change your perspective on how u felt and went threw dat time of your life , dis was great dialogue, great one Hoffa ✊🏿❤️💯🫡🫡🫡
🔥🔥🔥🔥It’s a different level of passion if you from NY and discussing Pac&Big in a barbershop or anywhere💯. BigUp to all the Legends on the show❤️❤️❤️🇯🇲
It's easier to fool someone then it is to convince someone that they've been fooled!💯
That's how powerful that man is. 26 years later an people are having heart felt arguments. Emotions be running wild.. 😂😂😂 . Tupac shakur the GOAT.👏🏾👏🏾💯
No it shows how ignorant some of us are.
This is why Math Hoffa my expert opinion is doing big numbers. honest real conversations ❤
I have watched thousands of podcasts and i have to say this is on my top 3 most INTENSE podcasts that i have seen, i hope it repeats itself, you were great handling the situation Matt!!!
exactly. This was masculine energy at least trying to work it out before it went left
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This is childish goofy energy over a 25 year old song by a then hardly 25 year old rapper/actor. Bro should've let that goofy ish go over a decade ago.
What's the other 2? I got Fredro Star vs Ctg and Birdman vs The Breakfast Club up there as intense as well. Oh and Flakko vs dude on No Jumper.
This was the dopest one yet!!! LOVE and UNDERSTANDING is all we need!!!
Now this is the barbershop 🔥🔥🔥Love how Tec n Steele stick together like real soldiers. Loved how tech got in military stance to honor what his comrade was addressing and anything else to go with it!! That's how real niggaz supposed to move!🤞🏾🤞🏾💯💯BCC FOLIFE!
This seemed to be a very intense episode...I hope these brothas peaced it up b4 leaving the barbershop...Math goin down in history for having one of the best shows...PERIOD
Bigga: "Stop and let me answer my question" 😂😂😂
Ain’t even mad at Tek at the end because Steele went through his breakdown showing much love and respect and understanding. And Bigga responded to that mad aggressive, pointing at him and poking him all in his chest and shit. Like Bigga didn’t calm down at all and receive what Steele was trying to say. But when someone (Tek) returned Bigga’s energy in kind, he got mad. I mean damn, dudes trying to be at peace over something from a quarter of a century ago and it’s like Bigga wanna get it poppin’ on some gangsta ish.
Why is he feeling a way about lyrics that had nothing to do with him ? Lmao…. Let alone make his own context out of the yrics. Pac was clearly speaking to bad boy, mobb deep & chino xl when he said that.
Tek was doing too much 🔫 pointing and too much fuck you, fuck that, fuck this so Bigga response was valid.
@@XMON888 nah.. that shit mad old. Bigga shouldn’t have reopened what’s obviously a wound unhealed. Tellling them in his young eyes they were traitors. Bigga didn’t know Pac.. BCC did.
@@souloshinobi7307 No rewatch it. Bigga responded to Tek's energy at 13:56. Before that Bigga was chillin.
@@XMON888 Bruh… check your laces cause you trippin. Bigga put that energy out first… and when he was met with that same energy he didnt like it. You receive the same energy you put out plain and simple. But trip… as far as this convo goes, it really aint that deep. Those who know, You know!!
Gotta respect TEK for standing up and getting right behind Steele ready to follow up if shit went left 💪🏾. See how he had his eye on him!
Facts
Those D Cepts move like a military
That shit was lame as hell. Lookin like a goofy in the back ground. 5 seconds before his homie was checking him like he was a kid. Just have a solid conversation wit out all the extra corny tuff shit
Them NY niggas DIFFERENT 💯
@@hubhub27 late 80's what u know about that
This is what happens in life and especially in the Barbershops, intense conversation, debates, even arguments, but at the end of the day the important part about this to me, was being heard. That needed to happen, the passion that those brothers had was genuine. Hearing from someone who heard it from someone and hearing it from someone that was actually, physically there, I am glad it didn't go beyond that. Thank you Math, Salute to you and your team.
Facts had an intense conversation this past Saturday in the shop I go to and it was all love at the end
The Barbershop Social Club is BACK!!!!! Salute to My Expert Opinion. Can't wait to see the whole episode.💯💯✊🏾✊🏾❤🖤💚
Naw, my barbershop is different feom those clowns in NY … Guy, got a full grey beard, saggin’ skinny jeans with a hoodie. I thought he was 18 until he turned around. NY ain’t ‘ish!
Go play Wipe Ya Mouf
By Smif n Wessun right now, it was written just for you @@yo3rdtier128
@@yo3rdtier128 speak on it
Bigga got me in tears😂😂😂😂.He was too too emotional.
Bigga was on one tonight! 😂😂😂 He usually is the one that speaks some positivity but that new hair cut got Bigga acting different!!! 😂😂😂😂 Best Podcast on the planet!!!
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This where the game changes, Math got the greatest hip hop culture podcast of all time, Salute!
Facts
Real shit. naturally too without effort.
We're still about to harm ourselves over a misunderstanding, time goes by but nothing ever changes.
It's so stupid
Imagine how much more INTENSE these conversations were back in the 90's when shit was poppin!
Crazy
Room full of testosterone