Another great episode! Thank you! As nostalgic as they are, the living condition there is usually not up to the modern standard. My aunt's family used to live in one of those neighbourhoods, and I was lucky to live with them for a year or so when I was little. In most cases, several households occupied one building, which means often time only one room for an entire family. I remember my aunt's family (3 people) and I just cramped into one room. There were usually no private bathrooms or toilets. Several households shared a communal toilet and kitchen. People usually went to the local bathhouse for showering or bathing, or they just used a bucket of hot water to wash themselves in the toilet. As the old guy in the video said, it would be nice if one household could own an entire floor or building, otherwise, it's not that convenient. Having said that, communities like this are full of connections. People know each other and often help each other. Kids can get together and play with each other safely. Those mum-and-pop shops are local favourites and full of treasure gems when it comes to authentic and inexpensive local food. I do have many good memories.
I like the open and balanced view of Jack regarding the change. This sort of thing could easily be turned into some sort of political agenda against the government. So, remember, what the outsiders think matters little. It's the local residents who have to deal with their everyday hassles from the ageing homes. Being nostalgic won't necessarily give you a good life.
Jack, didn't you realize something obvious when you walked inside these old neighborhoods? None of the little streets you walked was big enough to fit a fire truck. Despite looking cute, these old neighborhoods are just a ticking time bomb for fire hazards. Fire hazards in these old neighborhoods are extremely high because none of the electrical wirings was built to code. Diseases become incredibly easy to spread without running water in some of those old houses. Some of these buildings could be preserved and turned into a museum, but people should avoid living in neighborhoods like this if they value their safety.
I think your vid is really valuable for helping a lot of foreigners to understand China. I hosted two German girls 7 years ago. Back to that time my family faced the same issue, and we would love to move away from that apartment from city centre with really bad conditions. These 2 German girls were totally shocked about the decision my family made, because what they saw from the media is all the residents are against the government to stay. However the reality is the opposite. At least in my case, most of the neighbours wanted to move with the compensation from the government, some tried to fight against the government to ask for more money, and I never heard of any stories about fighting against the government to stay.
The reality is all of them want to move out, because those old buildings don’t even have decent toilets, shower also has big problems, old pines, old electrical lines, a lot of dangerous things
Just can’t believe such low views with this quality of the videos from China . Hey guys , you are doing great , hope for a future success of your channel and life there
Introduce to those interested why this place is being demolished. In Shanghai, these older buildings generally lack independent kitchen and bathroom spaces. In typical situations, 3 to 4 families share one kitchen, creating significant fire hazards. Very few people in this old city area have independent bathrooms, and the vast majority of residents need to deposit their waste in containers at home and transport them to designated locations outside to dispose of them. As the host mentioned, the government's prerequisite for demolishing the old city area is to obtain the consent of the residents in two consecutive votes. In the first vote, more than 90% of the residents need to approve the government's demolition plan for it to pass. In the second vote, 85% of the residents must agree to the government's compensation plan for it to pass. Only after both votes pass can the demolition be officially initiated. The compensation plan for this old city area that the host visited is publicly available and can be checked. On average, each household can receive compensation of 3-4 million RMB (equivalent to 430,000-580,000 USD). Residents can choose to accept the government's proposal to purchase houses specifically designated for demolition households in the suburbs of Shanghai (at a lower price than market rate), or they can choose to purchase commercial housing themselves. Now, this is my personal opinion. As a tourist, it is natural to want to see some of the city's history preserved, but only the original residents can truly understand the inconvenience of living in these old buildings.
Thank you for making this video. This was my old neighborhood, and I have a lot of childhood memory here. It's really sad to see it go, but I am glad to see it again through your lens. Old community like this has its long history and its own soul. The newer community offers better living condition, but it won't be the same.
Condolences my friend 😕 my uncle and aunty are also around this area and those little houses are part of my childhood memory. I just wish some areas can be preserved for us to still wander down and feel the familiar feeling
I agree they should keep this area as an important part of historical old Shanghai. The problem is many families sharing a small house. Those houses mostly owned by city. Some of them privately owned. If the city renovates the whole area, it is very difficult to decide who is going to stay. So the easy solution is to demolish the area and sell the land to developers. The money can be used for giving each family an apartment.
Most locals in China welcome this kind of removal as they can get a handy compensation from the local government nowadays 😊 Jack gave an good example in Beijing.
Some residents in this kind of old neighborhood in my city complains about tourists going there posing for photos as their neighborhood is historical and that it delayed their resettlement process. The interior condition of those historical houses needs significant updates.
As a tourist you just see how lovely those old building are, but you just stay there for few hours or maybe stay a couple of days but you won’t wanna live there for years. Those are the people who live in SHANGHAI in 2023 with no stable electricity no gas no heating system and no indoor bathroom. Can you imagine in winter when you get off bed and have to go outside to use the bathroom? Of course you can say the government should help them build all this infrastructure, but just look the Prise of building something in Shanghai, even the richest city in china could afford that, that’s why they bring some developers in and let them do the job. Sure people don’t like changes,but if china was like this you will never see this country getting better so fast, that’s the Prise to pay. Compare to countries like Italy or Spain, they keep the old city very good for tourist, but they are becoming the poorest country in east Europe.
I think as long as the government keeps some well kept neighbourhoods as a specimen of the past, it’s all good. Btw i totally agree with you. Not directing this towards Nico or Jack but what you said reminded me of what some Westerners said when they go to some beautiful but poor 3rd world countries to tell them keep your country this way, for us tourists, to feel like in a heaven in my one week vacation, and do not ever industrialize and develop your country. It will bring pollution and ruin the “view”.😅
Nice video. These old neighborhoods are fascinating, they have so much character. I made a video on my channel exploring one in Nanjing recently. I hope to find and explore more this year.
It's kind of sad actually.. if only it's easy to preserve those old neighborhood especially those houses that was built 50/70 years ago but the sad reality is.. well its not. My family still lives in a old neighborhood but it's changing bit by bit, well at least we don't have to demolish them.. but it's kind of sad you know, the nostalgia and all. Well, thank you guys for another nostalgic adventure, take care~
Nice one! I was working near that spot over a decade ago and there were some rubble piles foreigners love to pose in front of. Looks like their progress is not that great. I'm actually quite glad to see the local gov going soft with their migration and demolition business. That piece of land is probably the most expensive in Shanghai and I understand many would want to bargain for a great price before moving on. This is often the other side of the story in China. There is a phrase for the residnets not willing to move, 钉子户 (nail families). Balance is important. You don't want people's rights violated too much and you don't want them to be over-protected, either. Nostalgic as it is, the buildings are not of too much value. The really good ones have already been turned into museums and tourist spots. And as you have probably found out, you don't want to live there unless you've been there for life. One of the worst thing there is likely you don't have modern toilets. And believe it or not, that revolving gate should be younger than 20 years. The business model of migration and demolition is you move people out, sell the land for several times to 100s of times the price. And you give part of the money to the residents and keep the rest. That's why they can't build things in place as it wouldn't work financial wise. Does not make sense, either. I'd say if operated carefully this is a win-win-win business. West to Shanghai I saw the farmers in the suburbs of Hangzhou, selling their land to the government, whom turned it into high rise apartments and software campus. And the farmers drive around in BMWs, while having several new apartments in their hands and became landlords. Some even have a new 3 storey villa, which they turned the first floor into a shop, second floor into rental accomodation and they live on the 3rd floor.
Probably have something to do with new building and safety codes. With those alleys fire engines can't enter with ease. even if they want to rebuild one by one with those alleys modern building equipment cant even enter to do the job.
The ladies LOL, the moment Jack said "Okay I'm going upstairs", Nico I didn't know what you were going to say, at the same time we both said "I really don't think that's wise" LOL
Modernization and dev is a must step and also basic human right. I understand some people in the developed area obsess with the live ancient vibe, objects with history and old traditions. But the cost of preservation shouldn't be paid in the name of stopping the local residents pursuing better living condition and embracing modern tech. History should be preserved in museum and designated places, but not people's daily live.
They shouldn't demolish but make the buildings look newer by repairing them then paint them 🦢 Such historical buildings and ancient buildings! So so so so so valuable!
It was a nice feeling to hear your report that many resident are looking forward to a better quality of life...(with their compensation package they'll received). We all do have our preconceptions but upon further investigation, there are some good surprises.... that's my take on your latest video. Thanks for this video. Oh, the revolving gate, it was cool - I think the admiration of it is a guy thing. 💡
why it is always outsiders who has least to lose to ask why don't "WE" preserve those historic buildings? there is actually preservation officials in the city planning office responsible to determine what to preserve or what not to preserve.
It is guaranteed that the life quality will skyrocket when they get relocated. Many old building might be still sharing bathroom and kitchens. The obstacle behind small proportion of resistance is not “nostalgia” but greedy. Someone just never can be satisfied with compensation. When you make offer today, they want more tomorrow. Besides, wealth redistribution brings bigger trouble to some big families amongst them.
Not all of Shanghai's old buildings are demolished. A considerable portion is preserved as historical architecture, and those that are demolished are relatively low in value.
For an Asian city Shanghai is not really that bad. There are still quite a lot of older neoclassical and art deco buildings around the city with heritage protection plaques on them. If you really want to see bad, go to Seoul. There is almost nothing older than the 1990s. It is on Dubai or Saudi Arabia levels.
thank you made this video. I suggest take tour on shanyin road 山陰路 . it was a residential block kept . I suppose these wave would be keeping area pattern to show Shanghai history.
Great video! I think it's good if these traditional architectures can be modernised and preserved. This kind of project may not be possible in big cities where land is scarce but may well be feasible in smaller towns and villages.
Many old house such as west nanjing road and Xintiandi,they are lucky to be saved and refreshed to a shopping area or culture area. But save or not is deal to the decision of local government and Real estate developers,not the local own meaning.
Depends on the house anything with historical significance, character will be kept otherwise- I have no idea what you see in those houses. Very unlikely to get independent little houses in the middle of the city in China and that’s just fact. Sense of community is built around the ppl mostly. Ppl would likely relocate to the same area and communities continue where they relocate to. Most of the time ppl get new apartment(s) in the rebuilt area so they can always choose to move back.
Jack, finally you got it right. Shanghai, as a great city, is forward-looking and people living there want a better life. Being nostalgic is one thing, but better life for their next generation in much more.
Unfortunately I think that the idea is to fit the maximum number of people per square meter and the only way to do that is with flats, as in building upwards. Take the UK as an example the majority of the population live in houses so it takes up all the space and there is not enough room for any more houses unless you build upwards.
This is a great theme and thank you for making this video! I wouldn't be surprised if many of these buildings got torn down for the new in the near future. I just don't know where would these people go. I guess the city government would have to find a way to convince the locals to move to the suburbs, and it wouldn't be an easy task. Hanging laundries outside is actually not exclusively Chinese. Have a look in Naples, Italy.:) Besides, it's better for the environment.
⭐😇Jack n Nico....heard of the compensation 25 yrs ago ..my ex girl friend also from Dongguan Guangdong..descent in Malaysia ..if we go back China and refer to any pieces ancestor land or building ownership Developed by the Government today....I can be very rich 🤑.
People will get 3-5 million yuan as compensation who live there.The price is determined by the market.My neighbor got 8 million yuan (1,111,240 dollars) by selling his house to local government.And his house was only 430 Sq.Ft. Typically 1 house is owned by several people from the same family.Some of them don't live there but also can get money or an apartment form the demolition in early 2010s.But things changed until local government found that people are benefiting from these loopholes.So in recent years, people can only get either a house or some money.This grant can only afford a small house in the suburbs. The most critical problem is that you have brothers and sisters who don’t live with you but also don’t have a house. And they grew up in this house.
Out with old, in with the new. I heard that the compensation is quite a lot, enough to comfortably live for a long time. Some have even bought themselves 3 storey houses in the outskirts and own luxury cars. Some went into business, I guess it's a small sacrifice though to be apart from age old friends.
Oh yes and by the way thanks for showing us all these old quarters because that is what makes China so unique and with the same tower blocks as everywhere else in the world I think it will make China a little less unique
as a local, I think that simply is because it is a way for the government to make money. Selling the land contributes to the income, the process requires labour, machines, materials stuff. I actually like the old buildings, they add characters to the city, even though some interiors are not convenient, e.g. no toilet system, people need to carry the waste daily and toss it. That's easy to solve, I think.
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Another great episode! Thank you! As nostalgic as they are, the living condition there is usually not up to the modern standard. My aunt's family used to live in one of those neighbourhoods, and I was lucky to live with them for a year or so when I was little. In most cases, several households occupied one building, which means often time only one room for an entire family. I remember my aunt's family (3 people) and I just cramped into one room. There were usually no private bathrooms or toilets. Several households shared a communal toilet and kitchen. People usually went to the local bathhouse for showering or bathing, or they just used a bucket of hot water to wash themselves in the toilet. As the old guy in the video said, it would be nice if one household could own an entire floor or building, otherwise, it's not that convenient. Having said that, communities like this are full of connections. People know each other and often help each other. Kids can get together and play with each other safely. Those mum-and-pop shops are local favourites and full of treasure gems when it comes to authentic and inexpensive local food. I do have many good memories.
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Thank you so much!
I like the open and balanced view of Jack regarding the change. This sort of thing could easily be turned into some sort of political agenda against the government. So, remember, what the outsiders think matters little. It's the local residents who have to deal with their everyday hassles from the ageing homes. Being nostalgic won't necessarily give you a good life.
Jack, didn't you realize something obvious when you walked inside these old neighborhoods? None of the little streets you walked was big enough to fit a fire truck. Despite looking cute, these old neighborhoods are just a ticking time bomb for fire hazards. Fire hazards in these old neighborhoods are extremely high because none of the electrical wirings was built to code. Diseases become incredibly easy to spread without running water in some of those old houses. Some of these buildings could be preserved and turned into a museum, but people should avoid living in neighborhoods like this if they value their safety.
I think your vid is really valuable for helping a lot of foreigners to understand China. I hosted two German girls 7 years ago. Back to that time my family faced the same issue, and we would love to move away from that apartment from city centre with really bad conditions. These 2 German girls were totally shocked about the decision my family made, because what they saw from the media is all the residents are against the government to stay. However the reality is the opposite. At least in my case, most of the neighbours wanted to move with the compensation from the government, some tried to fight against the government to ask for more money, and I never heard of any stories about fighting against the government to stay.
The reality is all of them want to move out, because those old buildings don’t even have decent toilets, shower also has big problems, old pines, old electrical lines, a lot of dangerous things
this is so sad! I sued to love this area! :(
Just can’t believe such low views with this quality of the videos from China . Hey guys , you are doing great , hope for a future success of your channel and life there
Thanks a lot for your support!
Introduce to those interested why this place is being demolished. In Shanghai, these older buildings generally lack independent kitchen and bathroom spaces. In typical situations, 3 to 4 families share one kitchen, creating significant fire hazards. Very few people in this old city area have independent bathrooms, and the vast majority of residents need to deposit their waste in containers at home and transport them to designated locations outside to dispose of them. As the host mentioned, the government's prerequisite for demolishing the old city area is to obtain the consent of the residents in two consecutive votes. In the first vote, more than 90% of the residents need to approve the government's demolition plan for it to pass. In the second vote, 85% of the residents must agree to the government's compensation plan for it to pass. Only after both votes pass can the demolition be officially initiated. The compensation plan for this old city area that the host visited is publicly available and can be checked. On average, each household can receive compensation of 3-4 million RMB (equivalent to 430,000-580,000 USD). Residents can choose to accept the government's proposal to purchase houses specifically designated for demolition households in the suburbs of Shanghai (at a lower price than market rate), or they can choose to purchase commercial housing themselves. Now, this is my personal opinion. As a tourist, it is natural to want to see some of the city's history preserved, but only the original residents can truly understand the inconvenience of living in these old buildings.
Thank you for making this video.
This was my old neighborhood, and I have a lot of childhood memory here. It's really sad to see it go, but I am glad to see it again through your lens.
Old community like this has its long history and its own soul. The newer community offers better living condition, but it won't be the same.
Condolences my friend 😕 my uncle and aunty are also around this area and those little houses are part of my childhood memory. I just wish some areas can be preserved for us to still wander down and feel the familiar feeling
I agree they should keep this area as an important part of historical old Shanghai.
The problem is many families sharing a small house. Those houses mostly owned by city. Some of them privately owned. If the city renovates the whole area, it is very difficult to decide who is going to stay. So the easy solution is to demolish the area and sell the land to developers. The money can be used for giving each family an apartment.
love all your videos ^^ thank you for sharing all these happy memories with us ^^ #peace #love
Most locals in China welcome this kind of removal as they can get a handy compensation from the local government nowadays 😊 Jack gave an good example in Beijing.
Yes to more informative videos like this! Also, learned a lot about Shanghai and Laoximen. 👍 Thanks for this video Jack and Nico! Happy Monday! 😊
need more videos with jack , love him.
Your videos are always unique and refreshing. Love it.
2013 the government ordered them to move out. Some people didn’t want to move. Like my friends neighbor.
Some residents in this kind of old neighborhood in my city complains about tourists going there posing for photos as their neighborhood is historical and that it delayed their resettlement process. The interior condition of those historical houses needs significant updates.
I also live in Shanghai, great video, Nico!
I really enjoyed ❤todays video
You are amazing 👍
I enjoy your beautiful channel 😃
I enjoyed watching it. Thank you for the great content!
If this is in the Old City, within the city walls, they are likely going to restore it to an inch of its life as part of the Old City plan.
There is a saying in Chinese "if old things don't go then new things won't come". So old and ugly places should be demolished such as the Hutong .
As a tourist you just see how lovely those old building are, but you just stay there for few hours or maybe stay a couple of days but you won’t wanna live there for years. Those are the people who live in SHANGHAI in 2023 with no stable electricity no gas no heating system and no indoor bathroom. Can you imagine in winter when you get off bed and have to go outside to use the bathroom? Of course you can say the government should help them build all this infrastructure, but just look the Prise of building something in Shanghai, even the richest city in china could afford that, that’s why they bring some developers in and let them do the job. Sure people don’t like changes,but if china was like this you will never see this country getting better so fast, that’s the Prise to pay. Compare to countries like Italy or Spain, they keep the old city very good for tourist, but they are becoming the poorest country in east Europe.
Neither Spain nor Italy are in Eastern Europe. They’re sinking but they aren’t in Eastern Europe.
I think as long as the government keeps some well kept neighbourhoods as a specimen of the past, it’s all good. Btw i totally agree with you. Not directing this towards Nico or Jack but what you said reminded me of what some Westerners said when they go to some beautiful but poor 3rd world countries to tell them keep your country this way, for us tourists, to feel like in a heaven in my one week vacation, and do not ever industrialize and develop your country. It will bring pollution and ruin the “view”.😅
@@tommy0814 已经类似于东欧了，甚至不如一些非洲国家的一些城市
Nice video. These old neighborhoods are fascinating, they have so much character. I made a video on my channel exploring one in Nanjing recently. I hope to find and explore more this year.
It's kind of sad actually.. if only it's easy to preserve those old neighborhood especially those houses that was built 50/70 years ago but the sad reality is.. well its not. My family still lives in a old neighborhood but it's changing bit by bit, well at least we don't have to demolish them.. but it's kind of sad you know, the nostalgia and all. Well, thank you guys for another nostalgic adventure, take care~
Nice one!
I was working near that spot over a decade ago and there were some rubble piles foreigners love to pose in front of. Looks like their progress is not that great. I'm actually quite glad to see the local gov going soft with their migration and demolition business. That piece of land is probably the most expensive in Shanghai and I understand many would want to bargain for a great price before moving on. This is often the other side of the story in China. There is a phrase for the residnets not willing to move, 钉子户 (nail families). Balance is important. You don't want people's rights violated too much and you don't want them to be over-protected, either.
Nostalgic as it is, the buildings are not of too much value. The really good ones have already been turned into museums and tourist spots. And as you have probably found out, you don't want to live there unless you've been there for life. One of the worst thing there is likely you don't have modern toilets. And believe it or not, that revolving gate should be younger than 20 years.
The business model of migration and demolition is you move people out, sell the land for several times to 100s of times the price. And you give part of the money to the residents and keep the rest. That's why they can't build things in place as it wouldn't work financial wise. Does not make sense, either. I'd say if operated carefully this is a win-win-win business. West to Shanghai I saw the farmers in the suburbs of Hangzhou, selling their land to the government, whom turned it into high rise apartments and software campus. And the farmers drive around in BMWs, while having several new apartments in their hands and became landlords. Some even have a new 3 storey villa, which they turned the first floor into a shop, second floor into rental accomodation and they live on the 3rd floor.
Probably have something to do with new building and safety codes. With those alleys fire engines can't enter with ease. even if they want to rebuild one by one with those alleys modern building equipment cant even enter to do the job.
Great to you guys in China even though I know you two have left. Can't wait for the Return of Nico and Jack in China Series!!
在大陆的城中村，几乎99%的业主想要拆迁，那会让他们变成亿万富翁。不拆的话，基础设施永远得不到改善。因为土地的价值，需要基础设施、配套设施的保证，政府拆迁重建以后，会加上这些，再以以前良好的地理位置，政府卖地也会赚很多钱。
上海这种其实不会，因为一般每户面积只有一二十平方，拆迁的话要么就去上海远郊住大房子，要么就拿个几百万，在上海市区也买不了什么像样的房子。
The ladies LOL, the moment Jack said "Okay I'm going upstairs", Nico I didn't know what you were going to say, at the same time we both said "I really don't think that's wise" LOL
Modernization and dev is a must step and also basic human right. I understand some people in the developed area obsess with the live ancient vibe, objects with history and old traditions. But the cost of preservation shouldn't be paid in the name of stopping the local residents pursuing better living condition and embracing modern tech. History should be preserved in museum and designated places, but not people's daily live.
They shouldn't demolish but make the buildings look newer by repairing them then paint them 🦢 Such historical buildings and ancient buildings! So so so so so valuable!
It was a nice feeling to hear your report that many resident are looking forward to a better quality of life...(with their compensation package they'll received). We all do have our preconceptions but upon further investigation, there are some good surprises.... that's my take on your latest video. Thanks for this video. Oh, the revolving gate, it was cool - I think the admiration of it is a guy thing. 💡
我从小就住在石库门，一幢原本设计给一户人家居住的房子，后来住进了八户人家，卫生间和厨房都是公用的，居住面积也非常狭小，绝大多数居民都希望拆迁，可惜我家的石库门目前还没有拆迁，我小时候最多时住着七个人，现在只有我爸一个人还住在里面，他非常享受，毕竟他住了一辈子
why it is always outsiders who has least to lose to ask why don't "WE" preserve those historic buildings? there is actually preservation officials in the city planning office responsible to determine what to preserve or what not to preserve.
It is guaranteed that the life quality will skyrocket when they get relocated. Many old building might be still sharing bathroom and kitchens. The obstacle behind small proportion of resistance is not “nostalgia” but greedy. Someone just never can be satisfied with compensation. When you make offer today, they want more tomorrow. Besides, wealth redistribution brings bigger trouble to some big families amongst them.
Not all of Shanghai's old buildings are demolished. A considerable portion is preserved as historical architecture, and those that are demolished are relatively low in value.
For an Asian city Shanghai is not really that bad. There are still quite a lot of older neoclassical and art deco buildings around the city with heritage protection plaques on them.
If you really want to see bad, go to Seoul. There is almost nothing older than the 1990s. It is on Dubai or Saudi Arabia levels.
thank you made this video. I suggest take tour on shanyin road 山陰路 . it was a residential block kept . I suppose these wave would be keeping area pattern to show Shanghai history.
Great video! I think it's good if these traditional architectures can be modernised and preserved. This kind of project may not be possible in big cities where land is scarce but may well be feasible in smaller towns and villages.
Many old house such as west nanjing road and Xintiandi,they are lucky to be saved and refreshed to a shopping area or culture area.
But save or not is deal to the decision of local government and Real estate developers,not the local own meaning.
这些老房子其实已经属于危房了，因为内部没有配套的电线和水管，所以安全系数很低，而且要修缮的话也是一个大工程，没有1,2年根本不可能，所以这么多人去哪里找临时住所呢？你可以去看一下曹杨一村，那边就是旧房改造项目，可以百度一下改造前后的区别，这些还是建国后造的，只有70年历史，都花了很多时间改造，像老西门这些房子基本没有留下来的价值了，只是一些危房。
Depends on the house anything with historical significance, character will be kept otherwise- I have no idea what you see in those houses. Very unlikely to get independent little houses in the middle of the city in China and that’s just fact. Sense of community is built around the ppl mostly. Ppl would likely relocate to the same area and communities continue where they relocate to. Most of the time ppl get new apartment(s) in the rebuilt area so they can always choose to move back.
They're not disappearing. They become rich people.
Jack, finally you got it right. Shanghai, as a great city, is forward-looking and people living there want a better life. Being nostalgic is one thing, but better life for their next generation in much more.
no policy can make everyone happy. im more interested in the vision of government. what would future look like in this area
the residents get a huge paycheck, they have every reason to say yes. They don't have to work anymore.
其实绝大多数是因为拆迁补助的原因，有的人家里房子小补助费就少，房子大，甚至几套房子，就愿意拆迁
这种旧城区和北京的四合院不一样，连公厕都很难设置，人们厕所在家就是一个桶解决，很不方便
Unfortunately I think that the idea is to fit the maximum number of people per square meter and the only way to do that is with flats, as in building upwards. Take the UK as an example the majority of the population live in houses so it takes up all the space and there is not enough room for any more houses unless you build upwards.
This is a great theme and thank you for making this video! I wouldn't be surprised if many of these buildings got torn down for the new in the near future. I just don't know where would these people go. I guess the city government would have to find a way to convince the locals to move to the suburbs, and it wouldn't be an easy task. Hanging laundries outside is actually not exclusively Chinese. Have a look in Naples, Italy.:) Besides, it's better for the environment.
Yeah , are you guys back in China? I love your videos!
No
sigh..😢 progress has a price to pay...😊
⭐😇Jack n Nico....heard of the compensation 25 yrs ago ..my ex girl friend also from Dongguan Guangdong..descent in Malaysia ..if we go back China and refer to any pieces ancestor land or building ownership Developed by the Government today....I can be very rich 🤑.
“不利于团结的话不要说”这个翻译太地道了
It’s funny hearing him say 老西门 with both the 儿话 due to influence from living in Beijing combined with an English accent.
Regentrification is progress… visit the US… lots of nice neighborhoods are being occupied by the homeless
But there’s no Covid restrictions in China anymore, how could Nico be in quarantine?
They filmed this couple months ago
说的好
i hope all the property owners would be compensated according to market value. love from canada.
People will get 3-5 million yuan as compensation who live there.The price is determined by the market.My neighbor got 8 million yuan (1,111,240 dollars) by selling his house to local government.And his house was only 430 Sq.Ft.
Typically 1 house is owned by several people from the same family.Some of them don't live there but also can get money or an apartment form the demolition in early 2010s.But things changed until local government found that people are benefiting from these loopholes.So in recent years, people can only get either a house or some money.This grant can only afford a small house in the suburbs.
The most critical problem is that you have brothers and sisters who don’t live with you but also don’t have a house. And they grew up in this house.
Out with old, in with the new.
I heard that the compensation is quite a lot, enough to comfortably live for a long time.
Some have even bought themselves 3 storey houses in the outskirts and own luxury cars.
Some went into business, I guess it's a small sacrifice though to be apart from age old friends.
Oh yes and by the way thanks for showing us all these old quarters because that is what makes China so unique and with the same tower blocks as everywhere else in the world I think it will make China a little less unique
Sad
для меня интересен и познавателен.Всё наладиться.
as a local, I think that simply is because it is a way for the government to make money.
Selling the land contributes to the income, the process requires labour, machines, materials stuff.
I actually like the old buildings, they add characters to the city, even though some interiors are not convenient, e.g. no toilet system, people need to carry the waste daily and toss it. That's easy to solve, I think.
Spoken like someone who never lived there
Can't argue with progress.
i guess BBC CNN would love to interview the 2% who disagree with the resettlement. LOLsssssss
home demolished but compensation will be awesome.
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沙发？
First commet ?
哈哈 很喜欢你们的阴阳怪气 换作是我在国外被口罩政策折磨这么久 很难像你们这样保持心态 希望你们能一直以这样乐观的心态创作 加油
你自己阴阳怪气就够了，不用把别人拉下水
我寻思他们也没阴阳怪气啊
你们快跟BBC有一拼了，阴阳怪气的。自从在中国经历一些不愉快之后，这俩货就阴阳怪气个没完。最早还有点喜欢他们的，至少不讨厌，自从这俩家伙摆出一股臭架子后就取关了，原形毕露吧，很没素质的家伙。今天居然又被油管推荐，算了送你们条评论。何必老跟中国过不去呢，在哪开心就去哪呗？这是又找到反华流量密码的好处了？
人家说点自己的看法就是反中人士了🤣。境外势力
你没事吧？
我没觉得有阴阳怪气，有必要这么敏感吗
@@LeMon-wb1sl of course they all agreed to vacate as voting against it is an automatic downgrade in social credit.
沒有陰陽怪氣，如果有的話我肯定出來罵。問題是，我挑不出大問題。我懷疑你看到部分就沒看完了，過於偏激了。
这里以后都要建成高档社区和商场写字楼，房价20万起
I thought you guys left China.
this is quite sensational, especially for me who was brought up in XinChang rd, Nong Tang 小囡😿
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