For John, Did you ever feel like you presented a charcter in public that may have been all consuming? Kind of like Jim Carrey, where he stepped away from the light do to his engagement in public?
Saying, "Please make it about you, there's only two of us," after someone says, "Not to make it about me," is such a kind, caring thing to say and I'm going to have to use that sometime.
Theo describing that feeling of always having an imaginary to-do list and waking up like you have to prove something to these imaginary people in your head, like you’re never enough… is the most relatable thing I’ve ever heard
Its so boring listening to 2 junkies talking about drugs, Jesus shut up and find something interesting to talk about. Have a blood transfusion it makes you feel amazing.
John would make an amaaaaazzzing therapist in a second life. You can see how compassionately he starts to shoot the questions back to theo with deep, empathic deliberation as he begins to realize those are issues theo's really trying to explore for his own healing of his inner child. But he never takes on any air of pity or holier than thou. He genuinely cares and knows he will also gain a deeper understamding of his own journey. I can relate so deeply to both of these guys; their experience of addiction, their childhood wounds and ongoing journey's of becoming the person your inner child has been waiting for.
His old lobster diner bit on snl is the perfect example of his comedic voice. Such a specific situation that is funny just for its outlandishness, but also relatable as hell to certain types and an overly theatrical style to the point of entering lucid dream energy. A truly unique comedian being interviewed by an equally unique, yet totally different comedian, stylistically speaking.
This being a conversation between two people meeting for the first time seems borderline supernatural, one of the best and funniest conversations I’ve watched in a long time.
I related to and loved the conversation so much, I'm going to bring it up in therapy later today. I totally relate to feelings of inadequacy and not being enough and how substances help me bring out the wittier, funnier, etc version of myself. I also relate to the Kaftkaesque plans to be able to do drugs discretely throughout the day and the last minute scramble to collect myself and be presentable so other people think I'm sober and straight.
For 2 people that haven’t really met before, Theo & John sound like old friends. I love that they both legends in their own right, and they genuinely support each other’s work. Lots of love to the Rat King & Baby J
A weird thing happened here. They both opened up in an authentic way that is extremely obvious, which is rare. This wasn't just a podcast. This was a session that was very helpful for people going through it. You can tell how genuine it really is by how empathetic the general tone is. Mad respect .
Yup, and it's nice hearing someone like Theo & John talk about addiction the way I experienced it. I wasnt on the streets, I still had a job, was convinced I could fool people with it, the weird space etc etc. Real talk there.
That’s the genius of Theo Vonn, he’s so honest, approachable, and self deprecating in a way that makes it okay to show sides of you that aren’t perfect.
this feels more so like a mutual therapy session than a podcast. it feels like both john and theo are therapists who are just providing therapy to each other simultaneously. it’s honestly one of the best podcasts episodes i’ve ever listened to.
His last one is the only one I’ve really laughed at and when he opened with he’s calm because he’s sober now I was like damn his comedy sucked on drugs
These two guys are exactly what we needed as fans. They both broke away from their “stage characters” and really gave a genuine look into who they really are because they understood each other.
Agreed. I liked both of them before as people and loved them as comedians, but this conversation really gave me a sense of peace that they're both going to be okay long-term. Was truly lovely to hear this discussion. ❤
Theo seems like such a nice guy. He almost always checks in after a statement to make sure it didn't come off the wrong way, and I think that's SO sweet. I never watched him until recently but now I'm obsessed
His act is very different...Its funny, but he doesn't seem approachable at all. It's amazing how little we know of people we see a lot on these different platforms
I feel like Theo's matter-of-fact personality really allows people to open up more. He clearly does not judge them and wants to know about their experience.
I so relate to John's story. I got sober at 24 years old, stayed sober inAA for 34 years. Broke my wrist rollerskating with my granddaughter, had to have surgery, and was given fentonyl and sent home with oxy. This triggered a slow controlled relapse into prescription pills and later illegal internet drugs. At 60 years old, I lost my job nearly died from benzo and opiate addiction, and landed back in treatment and aftercare. I am now 4 years sober. That saying that the disease keeps progressing even when your sober is true.
❤😢 I really hope you are doing well, Karen - it takes a lot of strenght to pull yourself together after going through something like this so I am very proud of you and I wish you may be surronded by wonderful people who can support you in your path x 🕊️💖
glad youre doing well! that is my fear too. 6 years off heroin but will need surgery in the future. I think if I'm happy in my life if something bad happens and I have support I wont relapse. the whole addiction started from child abuse and addicted parents
their ability to keep each other's momentum as they move through topics and dialogue is completely natural...it sounds like a what a scripted dialogue that was done "realistically" but with a touch of style and pizazz would sound like...it's like a living, natural Wes Anderson script
Yeah bro, saw him live a couple months ago and almost his whole set was about the lowest lows of his addiction and his overall recovery story. It was fantastic
@@Peter-cx4ir and maybe this person hasn’t seen them. No need to be the “well ackshually” guy lol. Also I don’t think John had talked about his recent troubles in a special until now. He was performing under the auspice that he’d been clean for a long time.
I'm constantly nodding my head in agreement with John and Theo's experience with addiction to capture a more witty, funny, etc version of myself that I feel lacking when sober. I feel like a braindead zombie without substances but transform into a more charismatic person with it.
When I was using I used to watch a lot of comedy to help deal with my depression and I watched Mulaney a lot. I mean over and over. I always thought he had it all together. It just goes to show that you never know who’s suffering out there. These guys were really vulnerable today and that’s hard to do. Especially with a virtual stranger. I’m just so grateful for conversations like these. Not only do they help the addict, they can also help friends and family members of addicts understand a bit better what’s going on.
I'm 3 years sober from heroin, speed and Xanax (and well, everything else that I could take) after having been hooked on it since I was 14 (I'm 33 now, so it was 16 years of abuse), and this was a fantastic conversation to listen to right now. I really needed it today, because I ran into one of my old dealers/friends earlier today and he knows I'm clean so he didn't push something on me, just said hi and asked me how it's going and that he's proud of me - it was nice to see him since he wasn't just my dealer, he was a good friend who I just can't be friends with anymore, and he didn't do anything wrong at all, but I just got that extreme feeling of "I NEED DOPE AND XANAX ASAP!" and the feeling is still there, so I'm trying to get through it by listening to good people talking about good things, and that's where this episode comes in. You've basically saved me from falling back. I was so close to calling another one of my old dealers before I listened, and now that feeling is _almost_ gone. Thank you, it's life saving. I'm gonna do my part now and just hold on to my sobriety with all my might, because I can't count on finding the perfect podcast every time this feeling comes. I was just so surprised at how strong that need was. I haven't felt it in a looong time, and it shook me to my core. Keep it up! Congrats on one year (and the time since) Theo!
“and he just got in and started cryin” john: “… the dog?” silence cuts to both of them individually cut to wide shot for 1 second cuts to theo, who is still thinking about it i cackled loudly
i just found this tonight, and i really needed this right now. i just started recovery for addiction a few weeks ago, and i relapsed today. i feel like these two put into words feelings i’ve been unable to put into words for years. i feel like hearing them talk about there own experiences with addiction is finally helping me understand myself. this genuinely gives me hope that i can find happiness and achieve my goals if i just keep trying.
@@ultragroove1 I am doing well!! Thank you so much. Theo is coming to my city this month and I’m honestly devastated because I can’t afford $50 for the tickets right now 😭
@@FruityIndie Glad to hear! Yep these guys are so talented. And the conversation was incredibly honest. I hope you get to see Theo though if not this time then the next. I’ve not seen either of them live but hope to one day. Very best wishes. :)
The older we get, the further we are separated from God, the harder our hearts, the deader our spirit. The only people I’ve met with that childlike spark still in their eyes, are either really mischievous, rebellious older people who get a kick out of it, or true believers. God never made us to grow out of being his children.
@@juliabaldea2686 Very true. First one that comes to mind who never lost that spark was Norm MacDonald. He still had that childlike wonder and awe in his eyes and like he was always up to something lol. One of my elderly neighbours has it too, it's such a beautiful and rare thing to witness. Just when I walk by, she smiles at me and her eyes light up with this most innocent and sincere love she has for everyone and the world... makes my whole day!
I've never listened to a 2 hours+ podcast in it's entirety before this. Feel like I should thank these two for letting us almost overhear their conversation. May they both be blessed and may they both remain sober and happy.
I'm a 44-year-old janitor, three years sober, and I can completely relate to 99% of what these guys are talking about, fear, anxiety, so much of that contributed to my years of addiction, we are definitely not unique. Thank you Theo for this one
Hey Scott. 3 years? That is beautiful bro. What are somethings that genuinely helped you? .... um... I'm 34 days sober. ( much love and respect from Sydney AUSTRALIA )
@@crosssection6289 Keep it up. Remind yourself constantly you're bigger than the drugs. Remove yourself from the presence of other users, friends can always be made again and you'll eventually give yourself more power to help others once you stay clean.
John Mulaney’s version of drug addiction is almost identical to mine. I always used drugs as a thing to “enhance” myself and would balance things out with mixtures, and stayed in good shape so no one would notice. Also, when he says he feels like he’s in a movie with it, I felt that on such a deep level. The drugs make me feel like I’m the main character and everything is somehow gonna work out. I haven’t used in about 2 years now, but it’ll still be on my mind daily.
@@WhiteRose-CODM it's wild to see how many of us are there, were recently there, and who haven't been there yet. It sounds like people who will never go there are in the minority. And the number of people who will never come into contact with any of them is Zero.
Did anyone else start crying when Mulaney said "You got a lot out of being that kid too. Your independence, your confidence", like he was talking directly to you? It felt like he realized he got a little too personal or therapeutic with Theo and had to dial it back, maybe to find the entertainment or maybe just to give Theo the room to breathe. I think this conversation spoke to a lot of different kinds of people. Thanks for content like this.
He was speaking directly to both theo and himself in that moment. It’s a therapeutic line of thinking which is why it’s so relatable. one of my favourite moments from the episode too
Dude, I burst into tears and stop the video at least once every 20 mins or so...I'm even taking notes. Here's my favorite one so far that just hit me like a truck: "Part of me doesn't want to grow up because I still want the things I deserved as a child. It makes me hate growing up because I can never get back there" (Theo). Had me sobbing for a solid minute or two. And to add to your observation how Mulaney made a dark topic lighter again, I loved how when Theo was legit shedding a tear and was afraid that might make him sound like a baby, Mulaney said "first of all, what's wrong with a baby?! They're pretty interesting." I thought that was hilarious and some nice comic relief after Theo's insanely vulnerable moment (1:43:08). So, yeah, totally grateful for this authentic conversation and all the insights / knowledge bombs they're sharing as well as for the complex emotions they're articulating so eloquently. I already thought John Mulaney's new special was therapeutic and brave and ballsy af, then I found this podcast episode... (as this is already a wall of text I might as well add two more lines and mention my favorite quote from the special: "I was always worried about what other people thought of me. Now I'm like 'what could they possibly do that's worse than what I did to myself?!'. You want to cancel John Mulaney? I tried to kill him. I almost did.").
@@depressionbeard9882 that Theo quote did exactly the same for me when I heard it. It hit me like a ton of bricks. I'd never heard my inner feelings verbalized that way and it made total sense to me. I knew exactly what he meant in that moment.
It is the most sensitive people who reach to dull the pain of humanity being so obscene, when we all know we could make it better. I pay for poor people's groceries. You?
I've watched him serveal times and can't figure out why he's funny. I mean he certainly looks funny, but I havn't heard him say anything funny. What's the appeal? Please post a time stamp of him being funny, because I can't make it 5 minuets into his videos without being bored and annoyed at his voice. Is he one of those guys who's just accidently funny because he's such a dumbass hick?
Never made the Tracey Morgan connection before, but John’s 100% right. I think only Tracey and Theo can perfectly walk that line between zero-self awareness and outrageously funny observations.
@@zeroxeroFX oh man, that was months ago. I'm gonna have to leave it up to you to find it. Lol. It was when they were talking about home invaders, I think.
These two are such different comedians but they compliment each other beautifully. I feel very chill watching this as it’s a great vibe. First time I’ve seen Theo so calm.
This conversation was so moving. Theo opening up about wanting to retreat to his childhood to relive things he should've had was one of the most relatable things I've ever heard. And John's response, as someone who seemed to have a nice childhood, correctly addressing that Theo is brilliant partially because of those challenges was so true and kind
John didn't really have a great childhood lol watch his specials, his family had money though which makes it easier to stay close to people/forgive/etc so he probably didn't have a real horrific childhood either
I hit one year sober on April 15th. John described exactly what my system was for “balancing out” the drugs. Almost cried while listening to this at work. Congrats on one year Theo!
Congrats to YOU, darlin'! While each individual day clean is a gift that is earned, 1 year is a huge deal. Keep doing the thing, and here's to the next 365. *Raises glass of club soda and lime*
There is something about the part around 1:40:00 that struck a chord within me and the tears just started flowing, man I feel that bro, it's crazy how someone else can experience something and them explaining it can make you realize something about yourself, this episode is an absolute gem, such a vast array of emotions. I love these gentlemen.
Im just 12 min in and maybe i fall asleep before i get there but just in case i took a screenshot of your comment because i have a strong feeling i will relate too haha Bless you take care
So true. He releases stuff that I didn't know I needed, but as I'm listening I'm so grateful to God that it's there. He's a fantastic talent who is so unique, genuine and hilarious. Please keep on the grind Theo. You are an amazing person.
This podcast was amazing. I had ZERO clue John Mulaney was in recovery. I too entered rehab March 10 2020, 7 days before the world shut down. Today marks a year since my OD on Fentanyl. Woke up 6 days later in ICU. I am grateful to be alive today and am grateful for podcasts like this. ODAAT
Theo is getting really good at verbalizing the things that are affecting him deep down, especially the issues that are caused by his childhood upbringing.
Best podcast I heard from addict perspective. Theo speaking about feeling you get when losing hope and John speaking from a "high functioning" perspective. It boosts my mentality to stop fucking myself up no more
I related to and loved the conversation so much, I'm going to bring it up in therapy later today. I totally relate to feelings of inadequacy and not being enough and how substances help me bring out the wittier, funnier, etc version of myself. I also relate to the Kaftkaesque plans to be able to do drugs discretely throughout the day and the last minute scramble to collect myself and be presentable so other people think I'm sober and straight.
Most honest interview for any addict to listen to. People who haven't been there or been affected by addiction can't understand how or why people get into this situation. 2 complete opposite types in upbringing, walks of life and Both with similar stories but different traumas which triggered their addictions . Luckily they've both survived and hopefully they both stay strong.
"i feel like there is a to-do list that I never even wrote, that i'm responsible for it and everyday i wake up, I feel the energy of it, the responsibility for it and I have to prove myself to nothing, I don't even know what it is." -Theo Von. .. incredibly powerful insight into my very own anxiousness
I really appreciate how Theo, when talking about the girl he tried to "smooch" in the taxi, recognized that while he (and possibly both of them) was under the influence took her rejection as "mean", but focused on how HE interpreted it as mean while still saying she wasn't actually being mean in the rejection but that is how he took it. He recognizes now that a lot of women (not just women) when they reject men are labeled mean or rude for rejecting advances solely because the person who was being rejected took it that way.
You two are so endearing together. And I'll never tire of Mulaney responding to Theo's crazy anecdotes😆"You mean she had really poor peripheral vision?"😆
Holy shit Theo I have been feeling that feeling so much lately. When you're going through a mental health problem but you have a roof over your head, ostensibly everything is alright and your needs are met yet you aren't alright. It's like you can make things worse by feeling bad for feeling bad.
That's the best place to do something about it. Because when you go down a pit of depression and everything goes wrong, you'll just be able to stop the emergency, but not get to the root of it. I say it as someone who spend about 10 years on a deep depression. That feeling you get, it's because you know something is wrong and can be better. Go for it and get a little therapy, it's great on the other side of knowing what was wrong. Good Luck.
John’s appreciation for whatever it is when Theo said “I’m waiting until I get a little older to watch Malcolm in the Middle.” is somehow too funny. 😂 It does somehow sum up Theo’s whole vibe.
That exchange was absolutely perfect. John “you have this thing where you make the audience think you don’t know what you’re doing but you do know what your doing. Like that time about Malcom in middle” Theo: immediately demonstrates that he does not in fact know what he’s doing at all 😂😂😂 Love both these guys, what a real conversation.
john has always been my comfort comedian. i’ve rewatched his specials multiple times when i’ve been super depressed and down. it’s so great to see these two together as theo has now become that second person for me in dark times. thank you both for all that you do
same! John is one of the only comedians I can rewatch, knowing exactly what the jokes are but still genuinely enjoying every bit. It was interesting hearing him answer the question about whether he thought people were just going to see him vs just going to see the material cause I would be very interested in listening to him talk about nothing for hours lol
I would pay good money to hear Theo talk extensively about his favorite episodes of Little House on the Prairie. That show was my everything-when life got tough, Little House was always there. Never expected him to be such a fan but I am absolutely here for that energy.
My husband was in the Army doing a four-year stint in the early 80's. He told me the guys would sit around the barracks and watch Little House faithfully every week. Young men from all over the US of every race, all bonding over the show.
as a longtime huge fan of John Mulaney, and a more recent huge fan of Theo, this hit all the right notes for me. I love how introspective Theo is and John is just always so fun to watch. Good stuff.
Hey Theo, it's never too late to nurture your inner child. You give your inner child what he needs, warmth, comfort, whatever that might be. You could even write to your inner child and tell him what he needed to hear.
Saw Theo at the Hollywood improve 2 nights ago. I told him about my friend that passed away in a motorcycle accident while wearing his be hood to yourself hoodie. I wanted Theo to know that he existed and he loved him. Theo asked for his name and said “Viva Peralta”. Love you Theo thank you so much.
John Mulaney will be making the rounds because he has a special coming out shortly... but yes, Theo USUALLY gets some pretty unique guests! (this one not included)
“This is it. This is what I wanted… and it’s pretty cool... But having a goal really kept me occupied…. and I wasn’t sure if I had another one.” - i felt this in my *soul*
I myself am struggling with addiction and it is very helpful hearing both of them talk about their own addictions. God bless you all and keep moving forward. Praise God!
Congratulations, Theo!! I’m a recovering alcoholic. I’ve got almost 9 and a half years, 10 years in November. Thank you for this episode. You two being so transparent will help so many people
@@tonymarselle8812 it’s not a weird thing to be happy someone has their life back from an addiction that nearly killed them. And if I may add, statistically speaking, you know an addict or you yourself struggle. Please know that person is powerless to stop alone. If it’s you, it’s okay to ask for help. If it’s a loved one, I pray you listen before you speak. Admitting you have a problem and need help is so difficult. Don’t make it harder with your opinion. Grace and peace to you.
This was such a relatable podcast man.. every addict who watched this thought “Damn.. that’s so true” or “ahh I remember that feeling”, or even “yup.. I did that too”. The best part (especially for those of us who are sober) is remembering all of these things, recognizing just how far we’ve come, and realizing that we are definitely not alone.
I can totally see Theo’s inner child come out while he talks about it. I hope someone teaches him to envision protecting that little boy that lives inside him.
Two of the funniest people of our generation come together and realize that their pains are the same and they break our hearts but we are still smiling . That was powerful guys. You two are really genuine and it's so cool to see. Thank you both for your talents and for sharing yourselves ❤
First he got rich off the special, toured while podcasting started popping off, fell off the wagon, dropped another special, now he's back just in time for the comedy podcast roulette
1:41:57 this part man. I feel you. That inner child BEGGING for healing. But you can heal him. You are actively healing little Theo and Teenage Theo. You are. We see it. I completely relate to the shadow inside raging to get out. For me it comes with tears- so so many tears!
"I don't want to grow up bc I still want to get the things I deserved as a child" was the deepest/realest thing I've ever heard. Honestly, I couldn't pay a therapist enough to make that connection for me. Loved this episode, I'm late but loved it!!!!
I'm five days sober from cocaine and really looking forward to this new chapter in my life. I've been having a hard time with it and this episode came out at the perfect time.. Thank you both
I'm 22 months out from alcohol and this is a saying I came across that has really inspired me: I got sober to get a better life. I stayed sober because I got one.
It's been almost 2 weeks since you left this comment. I hope you are still fighting. Never forget that Japanese Proverb, "Fall down six times, get up seven." Be prepared for the craziest things to bug you. Years ago, I quit free basing. I kept my stuff in a particular box. For years, whenever I was at the grocery store, I would jones hard, when I would see a Planters Peanut cheese puff container! Lol! I will tell you that for me, two things helped. 1) I wanted to force myself to realize exactly what I was doing, in other words, if I gave up and decided to go buy some stuff, as I would pick up my keys...I would think, " I can still stop this." Then as I would get in the car, "I can still turn around." And so on. And the second thing that helped me was not glamorous but it worked...I just forced myself to sleep. Whatever you do, keep going. You and I know that today too much is cut with fentanyl and you know what happens with that. So stay alive. Someone in the world needs you. You can do this.
The fact that this is practically them meeting for the first time and having such a deep talk with such honestly is really a testament to them as people and as comedians
The fact that they are so similar, but from different backgrounds shows that no ma what… you never know what others are going through. The doors and the house can be beautiful, behind it, the life can be horrific.
Dude I love John’s subtle jokes that almost no one sees as a joke: “Oh it was just an adult, women only, Michael Landon meet-n-greet at the county fair.”
That “weak” feeling admitting we can’t manage our life is the “powerlessness” stated in step 1. The feeling doesn’t feel strong, but it shows emotional and personal strength 28:06 thanks for sharing! Love you John! 🩵
I've been a Mulaney Fanboy for years. I will now also be a Theo Von fan until the day I die. This was more than a podcast, man. This shit was beautiful.
Truthfully this is the best conversation I have ever heard between any two people in my entire life. And I will probably use that as a goal for the future. This was weirdly beautiful
I LOVE how Theo tells John he's driving the guy's taxi and John doesn't miss a beat. He cuts him off to ask what the name of the company was. Jesus, that's comedy gold on two levels.
"A feeling that you needed to have a kid and you didn't have." This is a profound recognition that so many of us can probably relate to. Thanks for this beautifully open conversation.
Two very different upbringings coming together to be vulnerable as grown men seems like something we need more of. Applause to the men out there trying to improve themselves everyday. I related to so much on this podcast. Thank you fellas.
hearing how theo thought about himself while going through addiction was the first time i ever heard someone have the same exact thoughts as i did, theo the goat fr
this felt like a therapy session or a couple of old friends catching up after a long time. real authentic exchanges and introspectives with bursts of funniness. thank you
Two of my favorite comedians in one room Edited: this was 2 hours of insight and two men being open and honest. I felt like that was therapeutic for myself. Two very intelligent men
I could listen/watch these two without end! This was the realest meeting of two humans I’ve seen in a long time. The comfort, the vulnerability, the comedic timing, the genuine care they showed each other on some very personal topics… just 🤯♥️ I’ve been a fan of John Mulaney for years and would have never thought he was walking that fine line. Truly I need more 2hr Theo and John sessions please 🙂
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For John, Did you ever feel like you presented a charcter in public that may have been all consuming? Kind of like Jim Carrey, where he stepped away from the light do to his engagement in public?
Sniff out henry Rollins and find out what that jokers got in store for Nashville?
youre bad Personal Traits explained to me why some of my old friends went ghost apreicate you being open
Saying, "Please make it about you, there's only two of us," after someone says, "Not to make it about me," is such a kind, caring thing to say and I'm going to have to use that sometime.
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@@cleargreen123456789 thank you so much!!
Theo describing that feeling of always having an imaginary to-do list and waking up like you have to prove something to these imaginary people in your head, like you’re never enough… is the most relatable thing I’ve ever heard
Im eating a banana atm
@@Mo-mc3mw another check off the list!
Spot on.
I paused it and had to let it sink in because it hit home so hard.
No kidding. So relatable.
“To want drugs more then I want to survive” that’s a really beautiful way to explain when your use goes from recreational to addiction.
Its so boring listening to 2 junkies talking about drugs, Jesus shut up and find something interesting to talk about. Have a blood transfusion it makes you feel amazing.
i love my addiction(:
John would make an amaaaaazzzing therapist in a second life. You can see how compassionately he starts to shoot the questions back to theo with deep, empathic deliberation as he begins to realize those are issues theo's really trying to explore for his own healing of his inner child. But he never takes on any air of pity or holier than thou. He genuinely cares and knows he will also gain a deeper understamding of his own journey.
I can relate so deeply to both of these guys; their experience of addiction, their childhood wounds and ongoing journey's of becoming the person your inner child has been waiting for.
Omg you are so insightful ALMOST MADE ME CRY ❤️🩹
@@bvallerinai know right 😭
God bless you and your family!I pray you all receive everything you need! Amen!
You can tell Mulaney is a writer at heart. Dude can just roll into a bit anytime and start exploring corners of what makes it funny.
That’s like saying lil Wayne is a writer at heart because he effortlessly freestyles 😂
@@kjlkjjjk It isn't like that at all, and you should check your teeth after tripping so hard for that stretch
His old lobster diner bit on snl is the perfect example of his comedic voice. Such a specific situation that is funny just for its outlandishness, but also relatable as hell to certain types and an overly theatrical style to the point of entering lucid dream energy. A truly unique comedian being interviewed by an equally unique, yet totally different comedian, stylistically speaking.
@@kjlkjjjkI mean he is lmao
@@kjlkjjjk…yes that in fact does make him a writer like… what are you on abt??
This being a conversation between two people meeting for the first time seems borderline supernatural, one of the best and funniest conversations I’ve watched in a long time.
I related to and loved the conversation so much, I'm going to bring it up in therapy later today. I totally relate to feelings of inadequacy and not being enough and how substances help me bring out the wittier, funnier, etc version of myself. I also relate to the Kaftkaesque plans to be able to do drugs discretely throughout the day and the last minute scramble to collect myself and be presentable so other people think I'm sober and straight.
Also, when he met Yannis Pappis for the first time on here. Just magic.
@@brookeb452 And Louis C.K.! That episode is the best.
When people are completely honest and open minded magical things happen. 🤗🙏
@@jzen1455 Anybody that say Kafkaesque is a certified freak.
This is the calmest I’ve seen of John Mulaney. He wasn’t trying to be funny. To entertain. He was vulnerable and honest and deliberate.
And then he talks about birthday chimps ripping off their genitalia
@@ThePandaAgenda the perfect balance!
As he throws bits left and right lol
He was giving Theo shit the whole time, I think.
This was absolutely amazing. I’m thinking so much about my life watching this
For 2 people that haven’t really met before, Theo & John sound like old friends. I love that they both legends in their own right, and they genuinely support each other’s work. Lots of love to the Rat King & Baby J
A weird thing happened here. They both opened up in an authentic way that is extremely obvious, which is rare. This wasn't just a podcast. This was a session that was very helpful for people going through it. You can tell how genuine it really is by how empathetic the general tone is. Mad respect .
This is my favorite episode, so far.
Von, brilliant. Mulaney, brilliant. Together? It's hotter than the surface of the sun.
Yup, and it's nice hearing someone like Theo & John talk about addiction the way I experienced it. I wasnt on the streets, I still had a job, was convinced I could fool people with it, the weird space etc etc. Real talk there.
@@bungdilly6333 Yes it’s how I was and I also really felt they get it and are both brilliant .
True that really took me back during COVID how fucked up I was
That’s the genius of Theo Vonn, he’s so honest, approachable, and self deprecating in a way that makes it okay to show sides of you that aren’t perfect.
this feels more so like a mutual therapy session than a podcast. it feels like both john and theo are therapists who are just providing therapy to each other simultaneously. it’s honestly one of the best podcasts episodes i’ve ever listened to.
It's just how empathy and shared experiences work. It's healing.
100%. They don't get to really have these talks normally. Trying to build that atmosphere on my show.
ITS ALL A BIG SPONSERSHIP FOR BETTERHELP, MULANEY IS A SELLOUT COW WHO JUST WANTS TO SHOUT OUY BETTERHELP BETTERHELP BETTERHELP FROM THE SKY
This is an AA meeting between 2 people that 100s of thousands of other people can benefit from. Well done guys John's new special is fantastic to.
Yessssss. Great share!
I think it’s a bit more war stories and triggering…
Maybe.
If theo wasnt such a dumbbell
His last one is the only one I’ve really laughed at and when he opened with he’s calm because he’s sober now I was like damn his comedy sucked on drugs
@@jasonleblanc6260 It's really clever and very funny
The social intelligence between the two was very empathetic. To see men open up and be real is very special.
These two guys are exactly what we needed as fans. They both broke away from their “stage characters” and really gave a genuine look into who they really are because they understood each other.
Agreed. I liked both of them before as people and loved them as comedians, but this conversation really gave me a sense of peace that they're both going to be okay long-term. Was truly lovely to hear this discussion. ❤
Theo seems like such a nice guy. He almost always checks in after a statement to make sure it didn't come off the wrong way, and I think that's SO sweet. I never watched him until recently but now I'm obsessed
You would LOVE Shane Gillis. Lol
You should watch him and Lainey Wilson, you can taste the chemistry between them
Willing to say anything for a joke but also willing to apologize. It’s helped him get far.
25:07 😊
His act is very different...Its funny, but he doesn't seem approachable at all. It's amazing how little we know of people we see a lot on these different platforms
I feel like Theo's matter-of-fact personality really allows people to open up more. He clearly does not judge them and wants to know about their experience.
He's like a deeper less child like Rogan in that way. Theo is not Rogan though I just mean his style deserves success.
Dracula handsome☠️☠️☠️
His complete disregard to judgment is what makes him a beautiful person to talk and listen to. Gang gang
I love how Theo can talk to anyone. I think it’s because he’s so genuinely himself.
What an open and vulnerable episode. I enjoy who Theo is and what comfort he gives people and myself.
It drew tears from me when Theo was talking about his youth. Please, no mean responses. Alex Paulk, he's very injured.
Everytime I think I couldn't love Theo more 🤣🤣 He really is just a wonderful human being.
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despite the fact that he's buried deep in an absurd character
its crazy
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I so relate to John's story. I got sober at 24 years old, stayed sober inAA for 34 years. Broke my wrist rollerskating with my granddaughter, had to have surgery, and was given fentonyl and sent home with oxy. This triggered a slow controlled relapse into prescription pills and later illegal internet drugs. At 60 years old, I lost my job nearly died from benzo and opiate addiction, and landed back in treatment and aftercare. I am now 4 years sober. That saying that the disease keeps progressing even when your sober is true.
❤😢 I really hope you are doing well, Karen - it takes a lot of strenght to pull yourself together after going through something like this so I am very proud of you and I wish you may be surronded by wonderful people who can support you in your path x 🕊️💖
How inspiring! I hope you are doing well
glad youre doing well! that is my fear too. 6 years off heroin but will need surgery in the future. I think if I'm happy in my life if something bad happens and I have support I wont relapse. the whole addiction started from child abuse and addicted parents
God bless you
my hero
Theo saying “I have a gun?” With a question at the end made me laugh out loud!!!!
That part was so damn funny to me too I choked on my water 😂
The energy between these two is actually perfect. Didn't expect that
I was really thrown when they said they’d only just met. The energy of the intro felt like they were old friends.
Me either , I thought I’d pass on it until I saw a clip on TikTok , then watched the whole episode
Totally. Great combo of personalities and way more came out out of it than I expected. Gonna watch this one twice.
their ability to keep each other's momentum as they move through topics and dialogue is completely natural...it sounds like a what a scripted dialogue that was done "realistically" but with a touch of style and pizazz would sound like...it's like a living, natural Wes Anderson script
Pisces and Virgo, that happens
This dynamic of speaking on sad/hard moments with a twist of comedy is just what I needed to hear. I loved this episode.
I appreciate how open John has been about his addiction and recovery. Not only on this pod but everything he’s been doing he is open about it.
Yeah bro, saw him live a couple months ago and almost his whole set was about the lowest lows of his addiction and his overall recovery story. It was fantastic
It’s awesome that he embraces it and makes it part of his act. He’s a real dude. Stoked for his new special!
"a lot of me has never wanted to grow up because I still want to get the things I deserved as a child" holy fuck. 🥺😭
I’m saving this for my therapist……
@@Satanhadapoint great idea! 💜
Yeah, relatable and 💔
You deserve to survive childhood, nothing more or less 😂 western people are too soft
Theo is actually so wise I feel the exact same way
Huge props to Mulaney for being so transparent. Never in a million years would I have guessed he struggled the same way I have.
He has literally talked about it in his specials
@@Peter-cx4ir and maybe this person hasn’t seen them. No need to be the “well ackshually” guy lol. Also I don’t think John had talked about his recent troubles in a special until now. He was performing under the auspice that he’d been clean for a long time.
Bro! Same! This helped me realize I’m not alone. We aren’t alone friend.
I'm constantly nodding my head in agreement with John and Theo's experience with addiction to capture a more witty, funny, etc version of myself that I feel lacking when sober. I feel like a braindead zombie without substances but transform into a more charismatic person with it.
When I was using I used to watch a lot of comedy to help deal with my depression and I watched Mulaney a lot. I mean over and over. I always thought he had it all together. It just goes to show that you never know who’s suffering out there. These guys were really vulnerable today and that’s hard to do. Especially with a virtual stranger. I’m just so grateful for conversations like these. Not only do they help the addict, they can also help friends and family members of addicts understand a bit better what’s going on.
I'm 3 years sober from heroin, speed and Xanax (and well, everything else that I could take) after having been hooked on it since I was 14 (I'm 33 now, so it was 16 years of abuse), and this was a fantastic conversation to listen to right now. I really needed it today, because I ran into one of my old dealers/friends earlier today and he knows I'm clean so he didn't push something on me, just said hi and asked me how it's going and that he's proud of me - it was nice to see him since he wasn't just my dealer, he was a good friend who I just can't be friends with anymore, and he didn't do anything wrong at all, but I just got that extreme feeling of "I NEED DOPE AND XANAX ASAP!" and the feeling is still there, so I'm trying to get through it by listening to good people talking about good things, and that's where this episode comes in. You've basically saved me from falling back. I was so close to calling another one of my old dealers before I listened, and now that feeling is _almost_ gone.
Thank you, it's life saving. I'm gonna do my part now and just hold on to my sobriety with all my might, because I can't count on finding the perfect podcast every time this feeling comes. I was just so surprised at how strong that need was. I haven't felt it in a looong time, and it shook me to my core. Keep it up! Congrats on one year (and the time since) Theo!
You got this
Should change your name from tessie pinkman perhaps? Dalter White didn't get high
Stay away from that guy
Congratulations on your sobriety man! Stay brave, brother
Triggers. Just keep avoiding those places, people and things. You’ve come a long way 🎉.
“and he just got in and started cryin”
john: “… the dog?”
silence
cuts to both of them individually
cut to wide shot for 1 second
cuts to theo, who is still thinking about it
i cackled loudly
Yea that was hilarious. I was like is theo really thinking about it? He then goes on to answer genuinely, I don't think the dog was crying. Lol
i just found this tonight, and i really needed this right now. i just started recovery for addiction a few weeks ago, and i relapsed today. i feel like these two put into words feelings i’ve been unable to put into words for years. i feel like hearing them talk about there own experiences with addiction is finally helping me understand myself. this genuinely gives me hope that i can find happiness and achieve my goals if i just keep trying.
Awesome. Hope you’re continuing to do well! 🙏🏼💪
@@ultragroove1 I am doing well!! Thank you so much. Theo is coming to my city this month and I’m honestly devastated because I can’t afford $50 for the tickets right now 😭
@@FruityIndie Glad to hear! Yep these guys are so talented. And the conversation was incredibly honest. I hope you get to see Theo though if not this time then the next. I’ve not seen either of them live but hope to one day. Very best wishes. :)
@@ultragroove1 thank you!! They are both incredible. I hope you get to see him too!
Relapse is part of recovery. It's what you do after that matters. You've got this!
“Back when I had electricity in my eyes. Just gotta get back to that.” That was some reaaaal shit.
The older we get, the further we are separated from God, the harder our hearts, the deader our spirit. The only people I’ve met with that childlike spark still in their eyes, are either really mischievous, rebellious older people who get a kick out of it, or true believers. God never made us to grow out of being his children.
@@juliabaldea2686 Very true. First one that comes to mind who never lost that spark was Norm MacDonald. He still had that childlike wonder and awe in his eyes and like he was always up to something lol. One of my elderly neighbours has it too, it's such a beautiful and rare thing to witness. Just when I walk by, she smiles at me and her eyes light up with this most innocent and sincere love she has for everyone and the world... makes my whole day!
"You were your own Gepetto" is such a powerful line
I thought so too!
Fantastic line 🐕
Theo is something extra special.
“I just don’t feel like I could stump it back over to my balls and hands…meanwhile I’ve still gotta sing happy birthday” shit had me roooolling
Loool i didn’t hear that part when i watched?😂😂 what time stamp is that??? lol I gotta actually hear it now lmaooo
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I WAS DYIN OVA HERE😂😂
@@samueljackson3920 10:30
I've never listened to a 2 hours+ podcast in it's entirety before this. Feel like I should thank these two for letting us almost overhear their conversation. May they both be blessed and may they both remain sober and happy.
Be good to yourself ❤
I'm a 44-year-old janitor, three years sober, and I can completely relate to 99% of what these guys are talking about, fear, anxiety, so much of that contributed to my years of addiction, we are definitely not unique. Thank you Theo for this one
Proud of you brother! You got this 💪
Hey Scott. 3 years? That is beautiful bro. What are somethings that genuinely helped you? .... um... I'm 34 days sober.
( much love and respect from Sydney AUSTRALIA )
@@crosssection6289 Keep it up. Remind yourself constantly you're bigger than the drugs. Remove yourself from the presence of other users, friends can always be made again and you'll eventually give yourself more power to help others once you stay clean.
@@crosssection6289 🙏
@@timo4938 That is a big part of it, I was told, the only thing you have to change is everything, lol and for the most part, that's been true.
John Mulaney’s version of drug addiction is almost identical to mine. I always used drugs as a thing to “enhance” myself and would balance things out with mixtures, and stayed in good shape so no one would notice. Also, when he says he feels like he’s in a movie with it, I felt that on such a deep level. The drugs make me feel like I’m the main character and everything is somehow gonna work out. I haven’t used in about 2 years now, but it’ll still be on my mind daily.
congrats on two years
similar feeling here towards everything you said. More power to you, man. Congrats on 2 years and all the best for your journey ahead
This is my life now
@@WhiteRose-CODM it's wild to see how many of us are there, were recently there, and who haven't been there yet. It sounds like people who will never go there are in the minority. And the number of people who will never come into contact with any of them is Zero.
As an un-recovered alcoholic, how do you think about and remember it every day without rationalizing the feeling to do it? Sincerely asking.
"Not tryna make it about me -"
"Please make it about you, there's only 2 of us"
Amazing
Wholesome AF
Incredibly touching. You rarely hear two guys willing to be so open and vulnerable with each other.
Did anyone else start crying when Mulaney said "You got a lot out of being that kid too. Your independence, your confidence", like he was talking directly to you?
It felt like he realized he got a little too personal or therapeutic with Theo and had to dial it back, maybe to find the entertainment or maybe just to give Theo the room to breathe. I think this conversation spoke to a lot of different kinds of people. Thanks for content like this.
@Theo-Von-I wanna watch that part again. I can’t find it. Time stamp??
He was speaking directly to both theo and himself in that moment. It’s a therapeutic line of thinking which is why it’s so relatable. one of my favourite moments from the episode too
@@EdwinHernandez-ct1vn around 1:44:00
Dude, I burst into tears and stop the video at least once every 20 mins or so...I'm even taking notes. Here's my favorite one so far that just hit me like a truck:
"Part of me doesn't want to grow up because I still want the things I deserved as a child. It makes me hate growing up because I can never get back there" (Theo).
Had me sobbing for a solid minute or two. And to add to your observation how Mulaney made a dark topic lighter again, I loved how when Theo was legit shedding a tear and was afraid that might make him sound like a baby, Mulaney said "first of all, what's wrong with a baby?! They're pretty interesting." I thought that was hilarious and some nice comic relief after Theo's insanely vulnerable moment (1:43:08).
So, yeah, totally grateful for this authentic conversation and all the insights / knowledge bombs they're sharing as well as for the complex emotions they're articulating so eloquently. I already thought John Mulaney's new special was therapeutic and brave and ballsy af, then I found this podcast episode...
(as this is already a wall of text I might as well add two more lines and mention my favorite quote from the special: "I was always worried about what other people thought of me. Now I'm like 'what could they possibly do that's worse than what I did to myself?!'. You want to cancel John Mulaney? I tried to kill him. I almost did.").
@@depressionbeard9882 that Theo quote did exactly the same for me when I heard it. It hit me like a ton of bricks. I'd never heard my inner feelings verbalized that way and it made total sense to me. I knew exactly what he meant in that moment.
John always seems very aware of other's emotions or vulnerability. Very empathetic. Both seem like good guys. Hope they both stay well.
It is the most sensitive people who reach to dull the pain of humanity being so obscene, when we all know we could make it better. I pay for poor people's groceries. You?
John diagnosed Theo perfectly: on one hand he is a masterful storyteller and on the other hand he is innocuously hilarious
innocuously hilarious : Just what I was thinking
I've watched him serveal times and can't figure out why he's funny. I mean he certainly looks funny, but I havn't heard him say anything funny. What's the appeal? Please post a time stamp of him being funny, because I can't make it 5 minuets into his videos without being bored and annoyed at his voice. Is he one of those guys who's just accidently funny because he's such a dumbass hick?
Never made the Tracey Morgan connection before, but John’s 100% right. I think only Tracey and Theo can perfectly walk that line between zero-self awareness and outrageously funny observations.
"'I have a gun?' See, I'd mess that up."
Time stamp?
@@zeroxeroFX oh man, that was months ago. I'm gonna have to leave it up to you to find it. Lol. It was when they were talking about home invaders, I think.
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“I was not the Anthony Bourdain of traphouses” what a statement
These two are such different comedians but they compliment each other beautifully. I feel very chill watching this as it’s a great vibe. First time I’ve seen Theo so calm.
The comment Theo made about not wanting to grow up until he fulfills whaat he wanted or needed as a child really hit. I resonated with that.
Me too 🥺
This conversation was so moving. Theo opening up about wanting to retreat to his childhood to relive things he should've had was one of the most relatable things I've ever heard. And John's response, as someone who seemed to have a nice childhood, correctly addressing that Theo is brilliant partially because of those challenges was so true and kind
I’m I’m
John didn't really have a great childhood lol watch his specials, his family had money though which makes it easier to stay close to people/forgive/etc so he probably didn't have a real horrific childhood either
Everything you said is still true though
I wouldn’t go so far as to say John had a good childhood
This was the positive comment I was looking for.😊
“I’m trying to prove myself to nothing” is extremely relatable wow
I hit one year sober on April 15th. John described exactly what my system was for “balancing out” the drugs. Almost cried while listening to this at work. Congrats on one year Theo!
heyyyyyt thats my sober date. congrats!!
Congrats to YOU, darlin'! While each individual day clean is a gift that is earned, 1 year is a huge deal. Keep doing the thing, and here's to the next 365.
*Raises glass of club soda and lime*
Congrats!
Congratulations
🎉🎉🎉🎉
i love how this feels like a therapy session for the both of them it’s comforting yet funny
There is something about the part around 1:40:00 that struck a chord within me and the tears just started flowing, man I feel that bro, it's crazy how someone else can experience something and them explaining it can make you realize something about yourself, this episode is an absolute gem, such a vast array of emotions. I love these gentlemen.
Im just 12 min in and maybe i fall asleep before i get there but just in case i took a screenshot of your comment because i have a strong feeling i will relate too haha
Bless you take care
Felt the same.. 1:40 kinda revealed something I hadn’t realised about myself..
Same here the tears started flowing because Theo was describing a feeling I’ve never been able to explain verbally. Thank you Theo
It’s so refreshing to see a comedian who doesn’t have a podcast and how insanely sharp, smart and engaging he is. There really are levels to this.
Theo consistently drops completely unexpected episodes that I never knew I needed. This is wonderful. Praise god.
So true. He releases stuff that I didn't know I needed, but as I'm listening I'm so grateful to God that it's there. He's a fantastic talent who is so unique, genuine and hilarious. Please keep on the grind Theo. You are an amazing person.
I feel the same way. Very grateful
Amen brother
Praise God AMEN!
This podcast was amazing. I had ZERO clue John Mulaney was in recovery. I too entered rehab March 10 2020, 7 days before the world shut down. Today marks a year since my OD on Fentanyl. Woke up 6 days later in ICU. I am grateful to be alive today and am grateful for podcasts like this. ODAAT
man tf yall on drugs for. i been depressed and the most i did was eat too many cheez its. grow up
congratulations on your sobriety... keep up the good work! One day at a time
@@jaywilliams4343 🤣🤣🤣. To each their own. This comment legit made my day. Thank you
@@ericboberic yes sir! Thank you
@@brodyharris7631 CONGRATS! u r strong and amazing! Proud of u my friend💪✌️♥️
Theo is getting really good at verbalizing the things that are affecting him deep down, especially the issues that are caused by his childhood upbringing.
Best podcast I heard from addict perspective. Theo speaking about feeling you get when losing hope and John speaking from a "high functioning" perspective. It boosts my mentality to stop fucking myself up no more
I love how John runs with Theo's jokes and takes it to the next level! Great chemistry! Thanks theo !
Acting!! 🗣
I know they literally feed off each others quirkiness. Amazing really!
@@poindextertunes Jealous!?
@@poindextertunesimprov🤦🏻♂️
Theo’s honesty with himself and others is incredibly admirable, inspiring even
Absolutely 😮💅💯
It's a little much at some points, I'm depressed enough as it is, I wanna hear something that makes me laugh
As an addict I gotta say that this conversation is incredible. Mulany really hit the same notes I played in my darkest times. Thanks Theo.
I related to and loved the conversation so much, I'm going to bring it up in therapy later today. I totally relate to feelings of inadequacy and not being enough and how substances help me bring out the wittier, funnier, etc version of myself. I also relate to the Kaftkaesque plans to be able to do drugs discretely throughout the day and the last minute scramble to collect myself and be presentable so other people think I'm sober and straight.
@@jzen1455 and the strange kind of excitement of being sneaky about it. This conversation brought up a lot of memories.
Most honest interview for any addict to listen to. People who haven't been there or been affected by addiction can't understand how or why people get into this situation. 2 complete opposite types in upbringing, walks of life and Both with similar stories but different traumas which triggered their addictions . Luckily they've both survived and hopefully they both stay strong.
"i feel like there is a to-do list that I never even wrote, that i'm responsible for it and everyday i wake up, I feel the energy of it, the responsibility for it and I have to prove myself to nothing, I don't even know what it is." -Theo Von. .. incredibly powerful insight into my very own anxiousness
I really appreciate how Theo, when talking about the girl he tried to "smooch" in the taxi, recognized that while he (and possibly both of them) was under the influence took her rejection as "mean", but focused on how HE interpreted it as mean while still saying she wasn't actually being mean in the rejection but that is how he took it. He recognizes now that a lot of women (not just women) when they reject men are labeled mean or rude for rejecting advances solely because the person who was being rejected took it that way.
Very mature and considerate
this!! there are so many reasons she said no and to not take it personally is the best thing to do.
You two are so endearing together. And I'll never tire of Mulaney responding to Theo's crazy anecdotes😆"You mean she had really poor peripheral vision?"😆
Holy shit Theo I have been feeling that feeling so much lately. When you're going through a mental health problem but you have a roof over your head, ostensibly everything is alright and your needs are met yet you aren't alright. It's like you can make things worse by feeling bad for feeling bad.
That's the best place to do something about it. Because when you go down a pit of depression and everything goes wrong, you'll just be able to stop the emergency, but not get to the root of it. I say it as someone who spend about 10 years on a deep depression. That feeling you get, it's because you know something is wrong and can be better. Go for it and get a little therapy, it's great on the other side of knowing what was wrong. Good Luck.
John’s appreciation for whatever it is when Theo said “I’m waiting until I get a little older to watch Malcolm in the Middle.” is somehow too funny. 😂 It does somehow sum up Theo’s whole vibe.
Just commented this. Made me so happy.
That exchange was absolutely perfect.
John “you have this thing where you make the audience think you don’t know what you’re doing but you do know what your doing. Like that time about Malcom in middle”
Theo: immediately demonstrates that he does not in fact know what he’s doing at all 😂😂😂
Love both these guys, what a real conversation.
That one went right over my head. Can someone explain it?
I liked John translating Theo for us: "He was popping off at the crime" "Oh so he would fire his weapon without exiting the vehicle"
The juxtaposition of delivery yet complete understanding of each other sense of off kilter humor makes this iconic.
john has always been my comfort comedian. i’ve rewatched his specials multiple times when i’ve been super depressed and down. it’s so great to see these two together as theo has now become that second person for me in dark times. thank you both for all that you do
Shine a light....totally. Theo all day for nervous breakdown disorder.
same! John is one of the only comedians I can rewatch, knowing exactly what the jokes are but still genuinely enjoying every bit. It was interesting hearing him answer the question about whether he thought people were just going to see him vs just going to see the material cause I would be very interested in listening to him talk about nothing for hours lol
When I'm having bad sensory problems and insomnia I put one of his specials on to fall asleep 💤
@@ericab1302 Agreed! Mulaney may be a good writer of jokes, but his latest special on Netflix was brutal. Boston was very kind to him that night.
I would pay good money to hear Theo talk extensively about his favorite episodes of Little House on the Prairie. That show was my everything-when life got tough, Little House was always there. Never expected him to be such a fan but I am absolutely here for that energy.
My husband was in the Army doing a four-year stint in the early 80's. He told me the guys would sit around the barracks and watch Little House faithfully every week. Young men from all over the US of every race, all bonding over the show.
For two guys who haven't previously met, this went very well. You can tell they are good dudes.
as a longtime huge fan of John Mulaney, and a more recent huge fan of Theo, this hit all the right notes for me. I love how introspective Theo is and John is just always so fun to watch. Good stuff.
@H wish I could be like that guy 💔
@@user-cp5js2be1vLet's be honest... That's the least of what people are doing these days.
@@user-cp5js2be1vSome people always have to always look for the low point in any conversation. You must be a real blast at a party.
@H So you can't leave your wife? Do you come from the middle ages or what is that "citicizm" :D
@user-cp5js2be1v we don't know the whole story between their marriage.
Hey Theo, it's never too late to nurture your inner child. You give your inner child what he needs, warmth, comfort, whatever that might be. You could even write to your inner child and tell him what he needed to hear.
That's a liberating idea of writing to your inner kid. Thanks buddy.
These two talked about some real shit in a very vulnerable and relatable way. Thank you both for sharing your incredibly personal stories with us.
Saw Theo at the Hollywood improve 2 nights ago. I told him about my friend that passed away in a motorcycle accident while wearing his be hood to yourself hoodie. I wanted Theo to know that he existed and he loved him. Theo asked for his name and said “Viva Peralta”. Love you Theo thank you so much.
💔 so sorry for your loss
Sucks but why are you seeking validation?
That's a chilling thing to tell someone haha
This is the perfect thing to tell Theo dont listen to anyone.. Praise the lord son
Bro just trauma dumped Theo lol cmon man
Theo always brings GUEST guests. Real ass people and not just the podcast circuit guys (or gals)
Facts
John Mulaney will be making the rounds because he has a special coming out shortly... but yes, Theo USUALLY gets some pretty unique guests! (this one not included)
@@BattleBro77 male karen
Good point. Pods are so generic these days
@@BattleBro77 wait John Mulaney who sold out Radio City is not special????
The guests on This Past Weekend always surprise me. Love this tall child guest!
With feminine hips 😅
Get some rest tall child
this tall child is cartoon like
You’re like a human bot. Weird.
Who may be a proud Asian American woman?
“This is it. This is what I wanted… and it’s pretty cool... But having a goal really kept me occupied…. and I wasn’t sure if I had another one.”
- i felt this in my *soul*
I myself am struggling with addiction and it is very helpful hearing both of them talk about their own addictions. God bless you all and keep moving forward.
Praise God!
I send you great love, respect and energy to you. You are theTemple of God.
Congratulations, Theo!! I’m a recovering alcoholic. I’ve got almost 9 and a half years, 10 years in November. Thank you for this episode. You two being so transparent will help so many people
congrats
It’s such a weird thing that we are proud of people for not doing something.
@@tonymarselle8812 not weird at all
@@tonymarselle8812 and most people will think it’s weird that you try to shit on people proud of making a positive change.
@@tonymarselle8812 it’s not a weird thing to be happy someone has their life back from an addiction that nearly killed them. And if I may add, statistically speaking, you know an addict or you yourself struggle. Please know that person is powerless to stop alone. If it’s you, it’s okay to ask for help. If it’s a loved one, I pray you listen before you speak. Admitting you have a problem and need help is so difficult. Don’t make it harder with your opinion. Grace and peace to you.
This was such a relatable podcast man.. every addict who watched this thought “Damn.. that’s so true” or “ahh I remember that feeling”, or even “yup.. I did that too”. The best part (especially for those of us who are sober) is remembering all of these things, recognizing just how far we’ve come, and realizing that we are definitely not alone.
Why do I still feel so alone at meetings though lately?
free base cocaine?
oh yeah
how do you do that?
off the floor
he wasn’t wrong hahaha
Its been a year and i ive came back here 7 times to hear these guys, 5 months sober and i havent felt this happy since i was 16
Please continue to be a beacon of hope for people in recovery
congrats!!
Someone finally did it! John perfectly summed up what Theo’s comedy is. This was beautiful.
Came here looking for this comment. I cried laughing at the Malcom in the middle reference
Ditto! Perfect explanation & then follow thru w/Malcolm in the Middle 🤣🤣
I like when people call him on his character while still respecting the game.
I like when John doesn’t use that annoying Sponge Bob voice from on stage. This was a cool, open, and interesting chat. Thanks fellas. ❤
Do you yell, "my gf smells like an alpaca" to yourself every now and then
This is, hands down, one of the BEST podcast episodes I've ever seen.
I can totally see Theo’s inner child come out while he talks about it. I hope someone teaches him to envision protecting that little boy that lives inside him.
Two of the funniest people of our generation come together and realize that their pains are the same and they break our hearts but we are still smiling . That was powerful guys. You two are really genuine and it's so cool to see. Thank you both for your talents and for sharing yourselves ❤
Hoping to see more of John making the rounds in the comedy podcast universe this week. It's a rare sighting
I’d kill to see him on flagrant
@@tuckerwoodson4134 ew no
@@tuckerwoodson4134I'd like to see him on The Adam Friedland Show
First he got rich off the special, toured while podcasting started popping off, fell off the wagon, dropped another special, now he's back just in time for the comedy podcast roulette
@@tuckerwoodson4134 let's make that whiskey ginger
1:41:57 this part man. I feel you. That inner child BEGGING for healing. But you can heal him. You are actively healing little Theo and Teenage Theo. You are. We see it.
I completely relate to the shadow inside raging to get out. For me it comes with tears- so so many tears!
Yes! Came here to say this. Theo, we hope/want that you can work on this and we love you no matter what.
Such a nuanced and candid conversation about addiction. These two have great chemistry.
"I don't want to grow up bc I still want to get the things I deserved as a child" was the deepest/realest thing I've ever heard. Honestly, I couldn't pay a therapist enough to make that connection for me. Loved this episode, I'm late but loved it!!!!
I'm five days sober from cocaine and really looking forward to this new chapter in my life. I've been having a hard time with it and this episode came out at the perfect time.. Thank you both
@@puckered6036 thank you so very much, means the world
Proud of you, gang gang!!!!!!!
I'm 22 months out from alcohol and this is a saying I came across that has really inspired me: I got sober to get a better life. I stayed sober because I got one.
Keep at it, you got this
It's been almost 2 weeks since you left this comment. I hope you are still fighting. Never forget that Japanese Proverb, "Fall down six times, get up seven." Be prepared for the craziest things to bug you. Years ago, I quit free basing. I kept my stuff in a particular box. For years, whenever I was at the grocery store, I would jones hard, when I would see a Planters Peanut cheese puff container! Lol! I will tell you that for me, two things helped. 1) I wanted to force myself to realize exactly what I was doing, in other words, if I gave up and decided to go buy some stuff, as I would pick up my keys...I would think, " I can still stop this." Then as I would get in the car, "I can still turn around." And so on. And the second thing that helped me was not glamorous but it worked...I just forced myself to sleep. Whatever you do, keep going. You and I know that today too much is cut with fentanyl and you know what happens with that. So stay alive. Someone in the world needs you. You can do this.
The fact that this is practically them meeting for the first time and having such a deep talk with such honestly is really a testament to them as people and as comedians
The fact that they are so similar, but from different backgrounds shows that no ma what… you never know what others are going through. The doors and the house can be beautiful, behind it, the life can be horrific.
Dude I love John’s subtle jokes that almost no one sees as a joke: “Oh it was just an adult, women only, Michael Landon meet-n-greet at the county fair.”
LOL “Oh the tallest statue of Ronald Reagan in the US or the world?”
I can't tell if he's mocking Theo or fascinated by him
@@marie_es I think it's just how John plays he seemed to genuinely enjoy Theo to me
@@marie_es both
The part when Mulaney says “The dog?” had me laughing more than it probably should 1:09:20
That “weak” feeling admitting we can’t manage our life is the “powerlessness” stated in step 1. The feeling doesn’t feel strong, but it shows emotional and personal strength 28:06 thanks for sharing!
Love you John! 🩵
The speed in which John said “Kaleidoscope” scratched a spot. I didn’t imagine they would have much chemistry and I’m feelin’ it.
You just want to be spit roasted by a couple of geniuses.
Or maybe that’s just some deep hidden fantasy of my own…..
Either way. ✌️
@@tonymarselle8812 what
I've been a Mulaney Fanboy for years. I will now also be a Theo Von fan until the day I die. This was more than a podcast, man. This shit was beautiful.
Truthfully this is the best conversation I have ever heard between any two people in my entire life. And I will probably use that as a goal for the future. This was weirdly beautiful
Theo is very relatable when he talks about his mental issues. It’s nice to hear a perspective that’s familiar.
I LOVE how Theo tells John he's driving the guy's taxi and John doesn't miss a beat. He cuts him off to ask what the name of the company was. Jesus, that's comedy gold on two levels.
"A feeling that you needed to have a kid and you didn't have." This is a profound recognition that so many of us can probably relate to. Thanks for this beautifully open conversation.
Two very different upbringings coming together to be vulnerable as grown men seems like something we need more of. Applause to the men out there trying to improve themselves everyday. I related to so much on this podcast. Thank you fellas.
hearing how theo thought about himself while going through addiction was the first time i ever heard someone have the same exact thoughts as i did, theo the goat fr
this felt like a therapy session or a couple of old friends catching up after a long time. real authentic exchanges and introspectives with bursts of funniness. thank you
Two of my favorite comedians in one room
Edited: this was 2 hours of insight and two men being open and honest. I felt like that was therapeutic for myself. Two very intelligent men
Same man. Exact same!
@@thefiveproject came here to say the exact same, especially as a recently sober dude
It was awesome seeing them get to know each other
I could listen/watch these two without end! This was the realest meeting of two humans I’ve seen in a long time. The comfort, the vulnerability, the comedic timing, the genuine care they showed each other on some very personal topics… just 🤯♥️ I’ve been a fan of John Mulaney for years and would have never thought he was walking that fine line. Truly I need more 2hr Theo and John sessions please 🙂