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It may not have done a lot of damage to win the war, But as much as it boosted America's moral, It shocked the Japanese, And proved the vulnerability of their homeland. As demoralizing for them as it was boosting for us!
I probably need this channel more than most, airplane crash on my first flight! I found myself hanging from seatbelt upside down. I think the pilot didn't survive.
Watch the excellent movie: "30 Seconds Over Tokyo." It is an account of the Doolittle raid from preparation to bombing run and escape aftermath. It was completed and released during the war. Spencer Tracy was cast as Doolittle. One of the crewmembers brought a personal movie camera to photograph the approach over Tokyo and some of that film made it into the movie.
Great episode about one of the most important missions during WWII. One of the correct features on the display B-25 is the red round ball in the middle of the star insignia. This red ball was discontinued shortly after the Doolittle raid. It may have worked to the Americans benefit during the raid. Not much defensive fire was encountered by the Raiders on the ingress. It was speculated that the red center ball may have confused the Japanese. Although smaller than the Japanese insignia, at a distance it may have satisfied a quick glance. Richard Joyce, one of the pilots, was from Lincoln, Nebraska. I’m not sure exactly what the targets were for his plane, but in the 1960’s, Mr. Joyce was on the city council in Lincoln. He was instrumental in getting Kawasaki to build a plant in Lincoln. The Kawasaki plant in Japan was one of the targets of the Raiders. Mr. Joyce first came to Japan as an enemy but years later returned as a friend.
Thank you for sharing this insightful comment! The Doolittle Raid was indeed one of the most pivotal missions of WWII, and the detail you mention about the red ball in the middle of the star insignia is a fascinating one. The insignia’s red ball, removed shortly after the raid, could very well have contributed to the limited defensive response from the Japanese. While it’s speculative, the similarity to the Japanese Hinomaru may have caused just enough hesitation to reduce anti-aircraft fire, adding a unique tactical advantage to the mission. The raid itself was already a psychological blow to Japan, being the first attack on their homeland, so every factor in its success is significant. The story of Richard Joyce is especially powerful. As one of the brave 80 Doolittle Raiders, Joyce risked his life in a mission that, at the time, seemed almost suicidal. Though we may not know the exact target of his plane, the irony of his later role in bringing Kawasaki to Lincoln, Nebraska, is striking. The Kawasaki plant, once a target of the raid, became an economic contributor to Joyce’s hometown-a powerful example of how time and diplomacy can turn former enemies into partners. Joyce’s transition from war hero to city councilman, helping to foster economic ties with Japan, truly highlights the reconciliation that can occur after conflict. This comment adds a meaningful personal layer to the Doolittle Raid, showing how individuals like Joyce played roles in both wartime heroism and peacetime progress. Thanks again for sharing!
that mission did more then what he said. When Japan learned that their homeland could be attacked, they had to keep soldiers and aircraft at the home land for protection. So that mission was more than a moral booster.
Recently I found out that while he was in command in North Africa he quite often flew missions with his men. He did so until he was brought to Europe to head the 8th Air Force. What a man! He was fearless, Obviously he did think of himself as indispensable and loved to fly. He would have gone to war in a piper cub. and a .45.
@johnschuh8616 Thanks for sharing that! It's incredible to hear about his courage and dedication to his men. Flying missions alongside them truly shows his fearless spirit and passion for aviation. You're right-he had such a strong love for flying that he would have gone to war in anything, even a Piper Cub with just a .45. What an inspiring leader!
Wow, what an awesome look into the history of the Doolittle Raiders! The way the museum showcases their bravery and the B-25’s role is really something special. Hill Goodspeed’s storytelling makes it easy to connect with this piece of aviation history. Perfect video for anyone who loves WWII stories or just cool planes!
This was an incredible journey through history! The Doolittle Raiders' bravery and the strategic brilliance behind their mission are truly inspiring. The National Naval Aviation Museum does a fantastic job of preserving and sharing this legacy. Hill Goodspeed's insights bring the story to life, making it a must-watch for anyone passionate about aviation and World War II history. Thank you for this engaging and educational content!
I'm going to add some corrections based on my 30 years of (and continuing) working on, flying, and studying the B-25. I have also attended a dozen + Doolittle reunions and taken some of the crews for flights. Doolittle's 25 was a "B" model. The 25 in this museum is a B-25J with the normal forward location of the top turret moved aft. They should have removed the tail turret since early models (up and including the "G") only had a observation dome in the tail. I will add this does not include combat field mods. 2:26 B-26 and A-20 were considered. The B-25 was the best fit. 3:32 Doolittle knew how to take off in a short distance. Miller instructed in the Navy way. 5:13 "Removed all defensive armament". WRONG. The nose 30 cal. and the top turret (twin 50's) were retained. Only the bottom turret was removed stateside. It was not needed because the attack was to be at low level and that turret was near useless. That now empty space had a make shift fuel tank added. The tail observation dome had the broom sticks and black painted lines added ship board. 7:24 "The Hornet had none of their own aircraft aboard". WRONG. The Hornet's flight deck was full of B-25B's. The hanger deck was full of the Hornet's aircraft. As soon as the Doolittle and company took off, F4F Wildcats were brought up for defensive purposes. 8:13 Only a few of the Raiders crash landed in the sea. Most of the crews bailed out since it was night time and very, very dark. 9:57 Doolittle's (lead) aircraft took off first and the rest of the aircraft had more space to take off. WRONG. In a test to see if it was possible, two B-25s were loaded aboard the Hornet in the Atlantic but only one was launched from the rear of the ship. It barely cleared the carrier's island by a few inches with the right wing tip. It was then decided not to risk damage to the ship's island and fowl the deck and screw up the whole mission. Therefore ALL the Raiders took off from the same spot next to the island.
@USApatriotLarry It’s great to see such in-depth knowledge! You’ve shared some important clarifications about the B-25 and Doolittle Raid, highlighting just how complex and significant this operation was. The fact that Doolittle’s plane was a B-25B and the museum’s is a B-25J really underscores the differences between early and later models. As you mentioned, Doolittle's crew retained some defensive armament, like the nose 30 cal. and twin 50s in the top turret, which is a crucial correction. The modifications, such as removing the bottom turret and adding a makeshift fuel tank, were key to extending range, especially since the mission involved flying at low levels. Additionally, your point about the Hornet carrying its own aircraft below deck, while the B-25s took up the flight deck, is an important detail about carrier operations. And it's fascinating to learn how the space constraints and safety concerns dictated all B-25s taking off from the same position near the carrier’s island. Your corrections really enrich the historical understanding of this iconic mission! Your firsthand experience with the B-25 and attending Doolittle reunions is incredibly valuable-thanks for sharing such insights!
@@e3aviationassociation Thank you for your response. I would hope you forwarded my comments to Mr. Hill Goodspeed so that these misconceptions by him can be corrected. His museum's B-25J was the last version built and quite different from the Doolittle "B". The Airforce Museum at Wright field has a "C" dressed up as a "B". It has been modified on the outside to look like a "B".
I grew up in the Sacramento area near McClellan AFB where the Doolittle planes make the last minute updates. They also flew up North about 60 mile to the Willows airport to practice there last short runway takeoffs
That’s such a cool piece of local history! Growing up near McClellan AFB must have given you a unique connection to the Doolittle Raid. It's fascinating that they made their last-minute updates there and practiced short runway takeoffs at the Willows airport. Those final preparations were crucial to the success of the mission. Thanks for sharing this!
@jeffdriver3000 l read that when Doolittle was at Mclellan he ordered the base maintenance personnel to not touch the b 25's. They did anyway messing with the specially adjusted carburetors. An infuriated Doolittle said he would never go to McClellan again.
Met three of the last surviving Raiders at a function in Stuart, FL, hosted by Tom Clancey. Their memories were sharp as a razor, their hearing not so much. There was also Buck Taylor of the 101st Airborne "Easy Company" in attendance. I don't know whose service was most impressive--they all gave their best!
That must have been an unforgettable experience! Meeting those legends and hearing their stories firsthand is something you'll cherish forever. It’s incredible how sharp their memories are, even after all these years. Each of them made such significant contributions to our history, and it’s hard to say whose service was the most impressive-they were all heroes in their own right. Thanks for sharing this amazing moment!
@@e3aviationassociation As I recall, it was Doolittle's copilot, a navigator, and an enlisted guy--a gunner, I think. He said his primary duty on the mission was emptying the jerry cans of fuel into the tanks in hopes of reaching China.
@@barrygrant2907 That’s an interesting recollection! It sounds like you’re describing the multi-role nature of the crew on that historic mission. As for Jimmy Doolittle’s co-pilot, it was Lt. Richard E. Cole. He played a crucial role in the daring raid, and the teamwork between the crew members was essential to its success, especially with tasks like transferring fuel from the jerry cans to make it to safety in China. Truly an incredible mission!
@@e3aviationassociation And, the last raider, as I recall. Cole brought up an interesting point I'd never considered. I always thought the first planes had the shortest takeoff run, but he said they all took off from the same point, due to the width of the B-25 and the position of the conning tower of the carrier.
I was stationed there at NAS Pensacola many years ago. I used to walk by this museum when it was new. Little did I know that in the future one aircraft that I personally flew would be on display there.And one plane that I did maintenance on before I became an Aviator. It's packed with history.
That's incredible! It must be such a surreal feeling to see the aircraft you flew and worked on displayed in a museum filled with history. Pensacola has such a rich aviation heritage, and being part of that legacy in both maintenance and as an aviator is something special. I bet it brings back a lot of memories!
This should be a glimpse of the attitude after Pearl Harbor..Doolittle and his men HAD to know there was a VERY good chance this was going to be a one-way ride...But the idea of being the first American's to give Mr Hirohito a real-time,,up close and personal,, preview of coming attractions,,.it was a temptation no one could pass up.....When Tom Brokaw wrote his book "The Greatest Generation",,events like this validated the narrative.
The Doolittle Raid, launched just months after Pearl Harbor, encapsulates the "Greatest Generation" narrative through its audacious spirit. Here's why: High Stakes: Doolittle and his crew knew the mission's risks, including the high probability of not returning. Yet, the chance to strike back at Japan directly was irresistible. Symbolic Retribution: The raid wasn't just about physical damage but delivering a psychological blow, showing America's resolve and reach. It was a direct message to Japan, a "preview of coming attractions." Voluntary Sacrifice: The volunteers for the raid understood the one-way nature of their journey, embodying the self-sacrifice Tom Brokaw highlighted in "The Greatest Generation." Impact on Morale: Beyond the raid's military impact, it significantly boosted American morale, proving that despite Pearl Harbor, the U.S. could hit back. Legacy: Events like the Doolittle Raid validate Brokaw's narrative by showcasing a generation's willingness to face overwhelming odds with courage and innovation. In essence, the raid was more than a military operation; it was a statement of resilience and defiance, perfectly capturing the spirit of an era defined by extraordinary challenges met with extraordinary courage.
Not a critcism but that's not the same model as the B-25's they used. Their B-25's had only the top turret = the Glass House for the Tail Turret would not have been there - as they had no tail gun. The top turret they have here is fake. It's in the right location for that model - but it's not real. They did have guns in the top turret but that may have been it. The Japanese had a string of Fishing Boats out from their coast as an early warning system - which worked. The Raiders choices were to have their aircraft pushed over the side or to launch them short of their original launch point. They launched. There was a homing device that was supposed to be at the Chinese Airfield they were to land at - but - the aircraft delivering it - crashed and it wasn't there. The Raid had a stunning effect on the Japanese Leadership. The Raiders were ordered NOT to bomb the Imperial Palace - but - the Japanese didn't know that - and - even if they had - for the Americans to have had the choice to bomb the Emperor was seen as a shameful failure by the Japanese Commanders. This removed any doubt about the Battle of Midway. They were determined to push the Americans father back and to sink their carriers because of this raid. Midway was a stunning defeat for the Japanese. So - yes - the Raid didn't just elevate American Morale - it severely hurt Japanese Morale. On one of the anniversaries of the raid the Navy launched two B-25's off the _Constellation_ . These aircraft were in the air half way down the flight deck. .
Thanks for the detailed comment! You’re absolutely right about the differences in the B-25 models. The ones used in the Doolittle Raid were indeed modified to reduce weight, including the removal of the tail guns, and the top turret was a key feature for defense. The top turret in this video isn’t authentic, but it’s placed accurately for the model shown. You also bring up a great point about the challenges the Raiders faced, from the early Japanese detection to the missing homing device in China. The raid was a significant psychological blow to the Japanese, influencing their strategy leading up to the Battle of Midway. The morale boost it gave the U.S. and the impact on Japanese leadership were indeed crucial turning points in the war. The anniversary reenactment with the B-25s launching off the Constellation is such a powerful tribute to the bravery and ingenuity of the original Raiders. Thanks again for sharing these insights!
I have read that the machine guns were removed from the aircraft to lighten it as they had to launch early and travel a greater distance. The narrator states that they were removed from the beginning.I dont know which version is correct.
@maurotolari9215 In the Doolittle Raid, the B-25 bombers were heavily modified to make the long-distance mission possible. The tail guns were indeed removed from the aircraft and replaced with broomsticks painted black to save weight. However, some forward-facing machine guns were retained for defensive purposes. The removal of certain equipment, including the tail guns, was planned from the beginning to make the planes lighter and allow for the extra fuel they needed to reach China.
@andywindes4968 Yes, you’re correct! The guns in the upper turret were left in place for defensive purposes during the Doolittle Raid. While many modifications were made to reduce weight, including the removal of the tail guns (which were replaced by broomsticks), the forward-facing and turret guns were retained. It’s always good to revisit Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo-such a great firsthand account!
Navy Captain Francis Low came up with the original concept. Low worked for Admiral King, and was mainly a submarine officer. The entire mission was planned by King's air officer, Captain Donald Duncan.
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You can pretty much know that when a UA-cam title has the word "shocking" in it that the content has nothing shocking in it. Good overview, but nothing particularly new and certainly nothing shocking. I'm not sure why it is notable that a senior officer and leader would be eager to learn from someone else, junior or not.
War is HELL. Obviously you can’t control your opponent, but would FDR have launched the raid if he knew the Japanese would kill a quarter of a million Chinese in retribution? In hindsight I think it was probably the correct decision. It did put the Japanese on the defensive.
You raise an interesting point. The complexities of war decisions often have far-reaching consequences that are hard to predict. It's a tough topic to discuss, but examining these historical choices is crucial for understanding our past.
@@e3aviationassociation Doolittle (a very ironic surname) thought he was going to be court-martialed IF he ever got back. There was supposed to be a homing radio signal in China but it wasn't there. It wouldn't have made a difference, having to leave with insufficient fuel every man on that mission knew it was a one-way trip. As close as the United States ever came to a suicide mission. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. Well deserved. What's the lingo today, "from a zero to a hero." As if most folks know what a true Hero is.
Blaming this raid for the Japanese for killing Chinese is a bit of a farce. Let's face it, the Japanese and their disdain for the Chinese was well established. The Rape of Nanking had already happened. Nothing the US did or didn't do would really change the Japanese in their barbarism
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Thank God for these brave men.
It may not have done a lot of damage to win the war, But as much as it boosted America's moral, It shocked the Japanese, And proved the vulnerability of their homeland. As demoralizing for them as it was boosting for us!
Pearl Harbor was an amazing movie. I'd never heard of the Doolittle Raid before i saw that movie...
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I probably need this channel more than most, airplane crash on my first flight! I found myself hanging from seatbelt upside down. I think the pilot didn't survive.
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Watch the excellent movie: "30 Seconds Over Tokyo." It is an account of the Doolittle raid from preparation to bombing run and escape aftermath. It was completed and released during the war. Spencer Tracy was cast as Doolittle. One of the crewmembers brought a personal movie camera to photograph the approach over Tokyo and some of that film made it into the movie.
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Great episode about one of the most important missions during WWII.
One of the correct features on the display B-25 is the red round ball in the middle of the star insignia. This red ball was discontinued shortly after the Doolittle raid. It may have worked to the Americans benefit during the raid. Not much defensive fire was encountered by the Raiders on the ingress. It was speculated that the red center ball may have confused the Japanese. Although smaller than the Japanese insignia, at a distance it may have satisfied a quick glance.
Richard Joyce, one of the pilots, was from Lincoln, Nebraska. I’m not sure exactly what the targets were for his plane, but in the 1960’s, Mr. Joyce was on the city council in Lincoln. He was instrumental in getting Kawasaki to build a plant in Lincoln. The Kawasaki plant in Japan was one of the targets of the Raiders.
Mr. Joyce first came to Japan as an enemy but years later returned as a friend.
Thank you for sharing this insightful comment! The Doolittle Raid was indeed one of the most pivotal missions of WWII, and the detail you mention about the red ball in the middle of the star insignia is a fascinating one. The insignia’s red ball, removed shortly after the raid, could very well have contributed to the limited defensive response from the Japanese. While it’s speculative, the similarity to the Japanese Hinomaru may have caused just enough hesitation to reduce anti-aircraft fire, adding a unique tactical advantage to the mission. The raid itself was already a psychological blow to Japan, being the first attack on their homeland, so every factor in its success is significant.
The story of Richard Joyce is especially powerful. As one of the brave 80 Doolittle Raiders, Joyce risked his life in a mission that, at the time, seemed almost suicidal. Though we may not know the exact target of his plane, the irony of his later role in bringing Kawasaki to Lincoln, Nebraska, is striking. The Kawasaki plant, once a target of the raid, became an economic contributor to Joyce’s hometown-a powerful example of how time and diplomacy can turn former enemies into partners. Joyce’s transition from war hero to city councilman, helping to foster economic ties with Japan, truly highlights the reconciliation that can occur after conflict.
This comment adds a meaningful personal layer to the Doolittle Raid, showing how individuals like Joyce played roles in both wartime heroism and peacetime progress. Thanks again for sharing!
that mission did more then what he said. When Japan learned that their homeland could be attacked, they had to keep soldiers and aircraft at the home land for protection. So that mission was more than a moral booster.
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Recently I found out that while he was in command in North Africa he quite often flew missions with his men. He did so until he was brought to Europe to head the 8th Air Force. What a man! He was fearless, Obviously he did think of himself as indispensable and loved to fly. He would have gone to war in a piper cub. and a .45.
@johnschuh8616 Thanks for sharing that! It's incredible to hear about his courage and dedication to his men. Flying missions alongside them truly shows his fearless spirit and passion for aviation. You're right-he had such a strong love for flying that he would have gone to war in anything, even a Piper Cub with just a .45. What an inspiring leader!
In fact, the Army Air Force had to order Doolittle not to fly in Europe, fo fear of him becoming POW of the Germans
Wow, what an awesome look into the history of the Doolittle Raiders! The way the museum showcases their bravery and the B-25’s role is really something special. Hill Goodspeed’s storytelling makes it easy to connect with this piece of aviation history. Perfect video for anyone who loves WWII stories or just cool planes!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! The Doolittle Raiders certainly have an incredible story, and Hill Goodspeed does a fantastic job bringing it to life.
Thanks!
This was an incredible journey through history! The Doolittle Raiders' bravery and the strategic brilliance behind their mission are truly inspiring. The National Naval Aviation Museum does a fantastic job of preserving and sharing this legacy. Hill Goodspeed's insights bring the story to life, making it a must-watch for anyone passionate about aviation and World War II history. Thank you for this engaging and educational content!
Absolutely! The Doolittle Raiders took “flying under the radar” to a whole new level, didn’t they? Thanks for appreciating the depth of their story!
The courage these kids had is just hard 2 comprehend nowdays ,thank god 4 this greatest generation
I'm going to add some corrections based on my 30 years of (and continuing) working on, flying, and studying the B-25. I have also attended a dozen + Doolittle reunions and taken some of the crews for flights.
Doolittle's 25 was a "B" model. The 25 in this museum is a B-25J with the normal forward location of the top turret moved aft. They should have removed the tail turret since early models (up and including the "G") only had a observation dome in the tail. I will add this does not include combat field mods.
2:26 B-26 and A-20 were considered. The B-25 was the best fit.
3:32 Doolittle knew how to take off in a short distance. Miller instructed in the Navy way.
5:13 "Removed all defensive armament". WRONG. The nose 30 cal. and the top turret (twin 50's) were retained. Only the bottom turret was removed stateside. It was not needed because the attack was to be at low level and that turret was near useless. That now empty space had a make shift fuel tank added. The tail observation dome had the broom sticks and black painted lines added ship board.
7:24 "The Hornet had none of their own aircraft aboard". WRONG. The Hornet's flight deck was full of B-25B's. The hanger deck was full of the Hornet's aircraft. As soon as the Doolittle and company took off, F4F Wildcats were brought up for defensive purposes.
8:13 Only a few of the Raiders crash landed in the sea. Most of the crews bailed out since it was night time and very, very dark.
9:57 Doolittle's (lead) aircraft took off first and the rest of the aircraft had more space to take off. WRONG. In a test to see if it was possible, two B-25s were loaded aboard the Hornet in the Atlantic but only one was launched from the rear of the ship. It barely cleared the carrier's island by a few inches with the right wing tip. It was then decided not to risk damage to the ship's island and fowl the deck and screw up the whole mission. Therefore ALL the Raiders took off from the same spot next to the island.
@USApatriotLarry It’s great to see such in-depth knowledge! You’ve shared some important clarifications about the B-25 and Doolittle Raid, highlighting just how complex and significant this operation was. The fact that Doolittle’s plane was a B-25B and the museum’s is a B-25J really underscores the differences between early and later models. As you mentioned, Doolittle's crew retained some defensive armament, like the nose 30 cal. and twin 50s in the top turret, which is a crucial correction. The modifications, such as removing the bottom turret and adding a makeshift fuel tank, were key to extending range, especially since the mission involved flying at low levels.
Additionally, your point about the Hornet carrying its own aircraft below deck, while the B-25s took up the flight deck, is an important detail about carrier operations. And it's fascinating to learn how the space constraints and safety concerns dictated all B-25s taking off from the same position near the carrier’s island. Your corrections really enrich the historical understanding of this iconic mission!
Your firsthand experience with the B-25 and attending Doolittle reunions is incredibly valuable-thanks for sharing such insights!
@@e3aviationassociation Thank you for your response. I would hope you forwarded my comments to Mr. Hill Goodspeed so that these misconceptions by him can be corrected.
His museum's B-25J was the last version built and quite different from the Doolittle "B". The Airforce Museum at Wright field has a "C" dressed up as a "B". It has been modified on the outside to look like a "B".
@@USApatriotLarry He is no longer there but we will link this to the administrator.
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I grew up in the Sacramento area near McClellan AFB where the Doolittle planes make the last minute updates. They also flew up North about 60 mile to the Willows airport to practice there last short runway takeoffs
That’s such a cool piece of local history! Growing up near McClellan AFB must have given you a unique connection to the Doolittle Raid. It's fascinating that they made their last-minute updates there and practiced short runway takeoffs at the Willows airport. Those final preparations were crucial to the success of the mission. Thanks for sharing this!
@jeffdriver3000 l read that when Doolittle was at Mclellan he ordered the base maintenance personnel to not touch the b 25's. They did anyway messing with the specially adjusted carburetors. An infuriated Doolittle said he would never go to McClellan again.
Met three of the last surviving Raiders at a function in Stuart, FL, hosted by Tom Clancey. Their memories were sharp as a razor, their hearing not so much. There was also Buck Taylor of the 101st Airborne "Easy Company" in attendance. I don't know whose service was most impressive--they all gave their best!
That must have been an unforgettable experience! Meeting those legends and hearing their stories firsthand is something you'll cherish forever. It’s incredible how sharp their memories are, even after all these years. Each of them made such significant contributions to our history, and it’s hard to say whose service was the most impressive-they were all heroes in their own right. Thanks for sharing this amazing moment!
@@e3aviationassociation As I recall, it was Doolittle's copilot, a navigator, and an enlisted guy--a gunner, I think. He said his primary duty on the mission was emptying the jerry cans of fuel into the tanks in hopes of reaching China.
@@barrygrant2907 That’s an interesting recollection! It sounds like you’re describing the multi-role nature of the crew on that historic mission. As for Jimmy Doolittle’s co-pilot, it was Lt. Richard E. Cole. He played a crucial role in the daring raid, and the teamwork between the crew members was essential to its success, especially with tasks like transferring fuel from the jerry cans to make it to safety in China. Truly an incredible mission!
@@e3aviationassociation And, the last raider, as I recall. Cole brought up an interesting point I'd never considered. I always thought the first planes had the shortest takeoff run, but he said they all took off from the same point, due to the width of the B-25 and the position of the conning tower of the carrier.
I was stationed there at NAS Pensacola many years ago. I used to walk by this museum when it was new. Little did I know that in the future one aircraft that I personally flew would be on display there.And one plane that I did maintenance on before I became an Aviator. It's packed with history.
That's incredible! It must be such a surreal feeling to see the aircraft you flew and worked on displayed in a museum filled with history. Pensacola has such a rich aviation heritage, and being part of that legacy in both maintenance and as an aviator is something special. I bet it brings back a lot of memories!
I have a cool picture I found in my grandmother's old pictures, Charles Lindbergh and Amelia Earhart and other people standing next to a plane
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@@e3aviationassociation I would love to find out who else is with them in the picture, anyone you know that could help
@@mikegraham2929 Send the picture to Support@e3assocoation.com and we can see if anyone at the museum can help.
@e3aviationassociation okay give me a day or two, it's boxed up somewhere in one of our closet
Charles Lindberg was anti-Semtic with Nazi sympathies. He was probably kept out of the war against the Nazis for this reason.
This should be a glimpse of the attitude after Pearl Harbor..Doolittle and his men HAD to know there was a VERY good chance this was going to be a one-way ride...But the idea of being the first American's to give Mr Hirohito a real-time,,up close and personal,, preview of coming attractions,,.it was a temptation no one could pass up.....When Tom Brokaw wrote his book "The Greatest Generation",,events like this validated the narrative.
The Doolittle Raid, launched just months after Pearl Harbor, encapsulates the "Greatest Generation" narrative through its audacious spirit. Here's why:
High Stakes: Doolittle and his crew knew the mission's risks, including the high probability of not returning. Yet, the chance to strike back at Japan directly was irresistible.
Symbolic Retribution: The raid wasn't just about physical damage but delivering a psychological blow, showing America's resolve and reach. It was a direct message to Japan, a "preview of coming attractions."
Voluntary Sacrifice: The volunteers for the raid understood the one-way nature of their journey, embodying the self-sacrifice Tom Brokaw highlighted in "The Greatest Generation."
Impact on Morale: Beyond the raid's military impact, it significantly boosted American morale, proving that despite Pearl Harbor, the U.S. could hit back.
Legacy: Events like the Doolittle Raid validate Brokaw's narrative by showcasing a generation's willingness to face overwhelming odds with courage and innovation. In essence, the raid was more than a military operation; it was a statement of resilience and defiance, perfectly capturing the spirit of an era defined by extraordinary challenges met with extraordinary courage.
is there a timelapse video of the b-25 getting inside the museum?
Good subject, good video! Where is your museum at?
Not a critcism but that's not the same model as the B-25's they used. Their B-25's had only the top turret = the Glass House for the Tail Turret would not have been there - as they had no tail gun. The top turret they have here is fake. It's in the right location for that model - but it's not real.
They did have guns in the top turret but that may have been it.
The Japanese had a string of Fishing Boats out from their coast as an early warning system - which worked.
The Raiders choices were to have their aircraft pushed over the side or to launch them short of their original launch point. They launched.
There was a homing device that was supposed to be at the Chinese Airfield they were to land at - but - the aircraft delivering it - crashed and it wasn't there.
The Raid had a stunning effect on the Japanese Leadership. The Raiders were ordered NOT to bomb the Imperial Palace - but - the Japanese didn't know that - and - even if they had - for the Americans to have had the choice to bomb the Emperor was seen as a shameful failure by the Japanese Commanders. This removed any doubt about the Battle of Midway. They were determined to push the Americans father back and to sink their carriers because of this raid. Midway was a stunning defeat for the Japanese.
So - yes - the Raid didn't just elevate American Morale - it severely hurt Japanese Morale.
On one of the anniversaries of the raid the Navy launched two B-25's off the _Constellation_ . These aircraft were in the air half way down the flight deck.
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Thanks for the detailed comment! You’re absolutely right about the differences in the B-25 models. The ones used in the Doolittle Raid were indeed modified to reduce weight, including the removal of the tail guns, and the top turret was a key feature for defense. The top turret in this video isn’t authentic, but it’s placed accurately for the model shown.
You also bring up a great point about the challenges the Raiders faced, from the early Japanese detection to the missing homing device in China. The raid was a significant psychological blow to the Japanese, influencing their strategy leading up to the Battle of Midway. The morale boost it gave the U.S. and the impact on Japanese leadership were indeed crucial turning points in the war.
The anniversary reenactment with the B-25s launching off the Constellation is such a powerful tribute to the bravery and ingenuity of the original Raiders. Thanks again for sharing these insights!
Not sure. We will check with them and see.
Another great Videos folks. Thanks
Thanks! We’ll keep cranking out these videos faster than a squirrel on an espresso binge!
Don't forget the weight savings of not having gunners for each of the guns removed.
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I have read that the machine guns were removed from the aircraft to lighten it as they had to launch early and travel a greater distance. The narrator states that they were removed from the beginning.I dont know which version is correct.
@maurotolari9215 In the Doolittle Raid, the B-25 bombers were heavily modified to make the long-distance mission possible. The tail guns were indeed removed from the aircraft and replaced with broomsticks painted black to save weight. However, some forward-facing machine guns were retained for defensive purposes. The removal of certain equipment, including the tail guns, was planned from the beginning to make the planes lighter and allow for the extra fuel they needed to reach China.
@@e3aviationassociation There were never any tail guns on a B-25B that Do0little flew.
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Didn't they leave the guns in the turret? It's been a few years since I read Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo so I'm a bit fuzzy there.
@andywindes4968 Yes, you’re correct! The guns in the upper turret were left in place for defensive purposes during the Doolittle Raid. While many modifications were made to reduce weight, including the removal of the tail guns (which were replaced by broomsticks), the forward-facing and turret guns were retained. It’s always good to revisit Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo-such a great firsthand account!
Always thought the concept was Doolittle's.
Navy Captain Francis Low came up with the original concept. Low worked for Admiral King, and was mainly a submarine officer. The entire mission was planned by King's air officer, Captain Donald Duncan.
Idea came from a submarine Captain. Wrong model B-25 sitting there
Yes, we have the right model in other pictures but this picture seems to get more attention.
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You can pretty much know that when a UA-cam title has the word "shocking" in it that the content has nothing shocking in it. Good overview, but nothing particularly new and certainly nothing shocking. I'm not sure why it is notable that a senior officer and leader would be eager to learn from someone else, junior or not.
@emmgeevideo thanks for the comment. We just updated it to "jaw-dropping" That might work a little better.
War is HELL. Obviously you can’t control your opponent, but would FDR have launched the raid if he knew the Japanese would kill a quarter of a million Chinese in retribution?
In hindsight I think it was probably the correct decision. It did put the Japanese on the defensive.
You raise an interesting point. The complexities of war decisions often have far-reaching consequences that are hard to predict. It's a tough topic to discuss, but examining these historical choices is crucial for understanding our past.
@@e3aviationassociation Doolittle (a very ironic surname) thought he was going to be court-martialed IF he ever got back. There was supposed to be a homing radio signal in China but it wasn't there. It wouldn't have made a difference, having to leave with insufficient fuel every man on that mission knew it was a one-way trip. As close as the United States ever came to a suicide mission. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. Well deserved. What's the lingo today, "from a zero to a hero." As if most folks know what a true Hero is.
Blaming this raid for the Japanese for killing Chinese is a bit of a farce. Let's face it, the Japanese and their disdain for the Chinese was well established. The Rape of Nanking had already happened. Nothing the US did or didn't do would really change the Japanese in their barbarism
Interesting but hardly "Jaw dropping".
@georgefranklin2738 How would you describe the title?
@@e3aviationassociation Simply drop the "Jaw dropping".
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