How do I land? Adventure in an F-86

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  • As airplanes go, the North American F-86 Sabre is as iconic as it gets. The fighter aircraft that dominated in the Korean war became an enduring symbol of the Jet Age and the Cold War. So you could hardly blame a young Air Force mechanic for getting a little carried-away.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 437

  • @loose-arrow-garage
    @loose-arrow-garage 2 місяці тому +294

    I was an Air Force mechanic/Crew Chief on F-16s. I would often do engine runs after maintenance and at times I was allowed to do taxi checks. I must say there were times when I was just a little bit tempted to takeoff, but I knew it would be suicidal. On an annual basis we had to recertify our engine run skills using the same simulator that pilots use. It was there after some free time, that I was able to "steal" an F-16. Having a private pilot license and knowledge of the controls I was able to takeoff and land it without crashing. Later in my career I got a backseat incentive ride in one. What a blast!

    • @SteveDave29
      @SteveDave29 2 місяці тому +7

    • @johnbeckman492
      @johnbeckman492 2 місяці тому

      Are you Dave Hartwig?​@@SteveDave29

    • @simonrancourt7834
      @simonrancourt7834 2 місяці тому +17

      The F-16's first flight was accidental. During high speed taxi tests, the plane simple took off.

    • @tygrkhat4087
      @tygrkhat4087 2 місяці тому +17

      I have a friend who is an Air Force vet and he got an incentive ride in an F-14. I bought him a scale model of an F-14 and by sheer coincidence, he was able to build the same plane he rode in.

    • @johngayder9249
      @johngayder9249 2 місяці тому +3

      What is an “incentive ride”?

  • @Paladin1873
    @Paladin1873 2 місяці тому +141

    Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth,
    And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
    Now how do I get back down?

    • @susanadams-wauro6716
      @susanadams-wauro6716 2 місяці тому +5

      Indeed!

    • @jojobar5877
      @jojobar5877 2 місяці тому +6

      That poem (or part of it) was written on the manila folder the Air Force gave me when I joined up and was processing in at AFEES in Detroit in 1978. It held all the paperwork I needed. I remember sitting around for hours staring at that poem (hurry up and wait). How boring, no cell phones or magazines around. Never forgot that. I was 17.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 2 місяці тому

      @@jojobar5877 While I was preparing to retire from active duty at the Pentagon in 2007 I learned the USAF History Office had a copy of the old F-104 video of the poem in their data files. At the time I could not find it on YT so I downloaded it as a keepsake. I had fond memories from my youth of watching it late at night when one of our local TV stations near Tyndall AFB would play it just before they signed off the air. I still have it and consider it the finest rendition of the poem. Today anyone can see it on YT thanks to the AIRBOYD channel having posted it on YT about 13 years ago.

    • @MadMonk67
      @MadMonk67 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, but did you put out your hand and touch the face of God? 😀
      I only know of this sonnet from when they used to play it at the end of the broadcast day on TV, right before the national anthem played. It had an impact on me even as a child.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 2 місяці тому +1

      @@MadMonk67 No, but a couple of times I made the sign of the cross.

  • @robertjensen1438
    @robertjensen1438 2 місяці тому +138

    "Dad, I want to be a fighter pilot when I grow up!"
    "You can't do both, son."

    • @ThinWhiteAxe
      @ThinWhiteAxe 2 місяці тому +12

      Lol! As a musician I've heard the "guitarist" variation of this.

    • @terriecotham1567
      @terriecotham1567 2 місяці тому +2

      good one

    • @terriecotham1567
      @terriecotham1567 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ThinWhiteAxe
      well said

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 2 місяці тому +5

      "When I was a boy, I had only two dreams: To command a fighter squadron and to run my very own junkyard. Thanks to the Navy, I got to do both."

    • @tpobrienjr
      @tpobrienjr 2 місяці тому +4

      There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots.

  • @caroletomlinson5480
    @caroletomlinson5480 2 місяці тому +112

    In 1952 in first grade, at 6 years of age, when all of us little students were resting our heads on our desks, I suddenly stood up and twirled around in a circle. No one but the bemused teacher saw, and she just nodded once as I obediently sat back down. In a moment of quiet, I just wanted to see if my circular skirt would twirl. Youthful exuberance and tolerant leaders warm my heart. 💃🏻

    • @jackreacher.
      @jackreacher. 2 місяці тому +8

      ... do it again ....

    • @IAmJaguarPaw.ThisIsMyForest.
      @IAmJaguarPaw.ThisIsMyForest. 2 місяці тому +5

      What a poetic comment amid the pedestrian pack of all the rest.....like mine......

    • @jackreacher.
      @jackreacher. 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@IAmJaguarPaw.ThisIsMyForest. ...orator fit, poeta nascitur ....

    • @VespasianJudea
      @VespasianJudea 2 місяці тому

      😆 you’re silly. Hope you had a good time.

    • @jamescook2115
      @jamescook2115 2 місяці тому

      What a wonderful story. I bet you are a fun lady to be around.

  • @230arnie
    @230arnie 2 місяці тому +64

    I was a USAF A-10A mechanic from the late 80's until 2000 and remember hearing a "story" about a mechanic who took a fighter aircraft for a flight. I always thought it was one of "those" stories and wasnt really true. Lo and behold it was!

    • @alexsis1778
      @alexsis1778 2 місяці тому +5

      A much more terrifying version was Taffy Holden's 1966 flight in the English Electric Lightning. He accidentally locked the throttle into the afterburner detent during a test run for a fault that would only occur at speed. He took off with the canopy removed and without a headset, so he had no radio. The ejection seat was also safed and the landing gear was locked in the down position due to a test mode. He was forced to try and land it completely by himself. He made it down on his third attempt but struck the tail on the ground because his only experience was in single engine tail wheel trainers. The tail strike broke off the rubber tail bumper and knocked off his drogue chute. He managed to stop 100 yards short of the end of the runway. The plane was repaired and put back into service and he wasn't punished.
      As a mechanic you would probably be interested to know the problem was the result of the wires being left behind from a removed ground test button which was shorting on the UHF radio housing when it moved under high acceleration.

  • @bachonysus4548
    @bachonysus4548 2 місяці тому +131

    I joined the Air National Guard in 1959 and at that time we had F89s, however,, shortly we got F86 D's and L;s. A yaer or so later we were having an Air Show and Bob Hoover was one of the mainattractions. There had been a long standing argument as to whether or not the F86 could go straight up or not. Bob said that it was possible and was given permission to give it a try. One of the things required to do to an F86 before it could climb at such a steep angle was to look the radar antena so it wouldn't be damaged, as a radar mechanic I was given that task. Bob climbed in the plane, in just his street cloths, strapped himself in and took off. Bob did indeed take the F86 straight up, that settled the argument. What a wonderful man and plane. Thank you so much fur this episode.

    • @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710
      @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 2 місяці тому +10

      Cool story. Thank you for sharing.

    • @tonyrollman3991
      @tonyrollman3991 2 місяці тому +17

      Had the pleasure of watching Bob Hoover fly the Rockwell international p-51 mustang

    • @DeconvertedMan
      @DeconvertedMan 2 місяці тому +6

      Thank you for your service. :)

    • @johnanon6938
      @johnanon6938 2 місяці тому +4

      There is a 240p video from early days of YT of a 1961 film titled - BOB HOOVER Demonstrating the F-86F
      Low res was common a decade back but I sure wish there was a high res version on yt now, still can't go wrong giving it a watch cause Bob made flying look graceful.

    • @bachonysus4548
      @bachonysus4548 2 місяці тому +1

      @@johnanon6938 Thanks for the reply, The video was great despite the low rez.

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 2 місяці тому +43

    I was enlisted Army in '82 at Ft. Leavenworth where small planes were constantly heard and seen overhead. It was the Ft. Leavenworth Flying Club and one day I walked down to the small airfield and inquired about it and what a deal, for 20-bucks an hour I could fly a Cessna 150 with instruction by Air Force jet pilots and Army helicopter pilots, Vietnam combat veterans who were enrolled in the Command and General Staff College. Those gentlemen were the greatest instructors any student pilot could have, very cool in the passenger seat and very calm with their commands. "Steeper...steeper..." And ha, I thought I was flying straight into the runway when they'd finally say, "Okay, now pull up" and we'd touch down on the rear wheels. By the end of the year I was sent to the Pentagon, no more flying small planes, yet I still appreciate the privilege of that experience as a recreational pursuit.

    • @XAirForcedotcom
      @XAirForcedotcom 2 місяці тому +6

      I also went on active duty in January 1982. I did public address set ups as ground radio maintenance to include a 90 during the air war when I was stationed at RAF Mildenhall, so I was lucky enough to see all of the aircraft up close. I got to fly the T-37 simulator at Reese Air Force Base, what night when I was delivering parts after hours. I was supposed to get a incentive ride in an F-16 because I fixed there LST-5 SATCOM, and the F-16’s were there to guard them when we were in Oman in around 97. So now I fly virtually in DCS World, to include the F 86, which is really fun because it isn’t super fast but very maneuverable. I think I’ve spent enough money that I could buy my own jet at this point. Lol

    • @kurtvanluven9351
      @kurtvanluven9351 2 місяці тому +1

      Best $ deal ever.

    • @robbchastain3036
      @robbchastain3036 2 місяці тому +3

      @kurtvanluven9351 It was truly unbelievable, ten dollars to the instructor, ten dollars to the club, just pay per hour and nothing more. O and a small fee for the official Cessna student pilot kit with log for hours and manual and such In a red plastic satchel. And the instructors were always eager to go up, they were true aviators.

    • @kurtvanluven9351
      @kurtvanluven9351 2 місяці тому

      @@robbchastain3036 They had demo rides on Speedway motorcycles. $20/5 laps. I crashed into the wall at 60mph, got up and asked for another bike. Why? You guys owe me 3 more laps. Yeah, I got kicked out!

    • @gyrene_asea4133
      @gyrene_asea4133 2 місяці тому +1

      @@robbchastain3036 What a time! Back in the late 70's and early 80's, us lowly flight-crew enlisted were sometimes given "maintenance" stick time in our squadron's helos if we were a bit hard-corps and the HAC (pilot in command) was cool. Low hover was okay, landing was not. Semper Fi and to being young!

  • @DataRew
    @DataRew 2 місяці тому +70

    My colorblind, 2-tour twin-Silver Star Thud pilot Grandfather would argue with him about the eye test... My gpa enlisted as a radioman on KC-97's, got a copy of the eye test, memorized it, and that's how he got to be a pilot. His colorblindness actually helped him see things that other pilots couldn''t see in Vietnam!

    • @lonzo61
      @lonzo61 2 місяці тому +27

      I read a book about thirty years ago written by a guy who'd been a company commander of a rifle company in the ETO during WW2. He described how they had this guy who was colorblind who was used from time to time to spot enemy camouflaged positions. There was apparently enough difference in the camo materials used by the Germans that was plain for him to see, but that no one else was able to detect.

    • @jon9021
      @jon9021 2 місяці тому +7

      @@lonzo61 fascinating!

    • @Houndini
      @Houndini 2 місяці тому +2

      Happens more than you think.

    • @jgalexander510
      @jgalexander510 2 місяці тому +2

      It’s 8 AM, and I’ve already learned something new today. Thanks! Never thought about colorblindness being in advantage.. Pretty cool!

  • @scoutrifle6827
    @scoutrifle6827 2 місяці тому +47

    I find myself enjoying topics I have never had an interest in, just because of your vivid and engaging presentation.

  • @sd906238
    @sd906238 2 місяці тому +101

    George Welch was killed test flying an F-100 Super Sabre. Test flying was more dangerous than combat.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  2 місяці тому +28

      He did. More on his story here: Two American Pilots and Pearl Harbor
      ua-cam.com/video/zSvYxH6gqMc/v-deo.html

    • @HM2SGT
      @HM2SGT 2 місяці тому +21

      Indeed. RIP Dick Bong

    • @TiesOfZip
      @TiesOfZip 2 місяці тому +6

      It still is lol

    • @tomwarner2468
      @tomwarner2468 2 місяці тому +13

      The p-80 got Richard Bong,August 1945!

    • @cbroz7492
      @cbroz7492 2 місяці тому +3

      ..the short 3 or 4 second clip.if that accident showed up in the movie "The Hunters" with Robert Mitchum and a VERY young Robert Wagner...

  • @IMBlakeley
    @IMBlakeley 2 місяці тому +53

    RAF had a similar problem when Taffy Holden an mechanic inadvertently lit the afterburners on a lightening.

    • @jbrhel
      @jbrhel 2 місяці тому +15

      THG did a video on that incident. Check it out.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  2 місяці тому +20

      ua-cam.com/video/W4d7VKvG1z0/v-deo.htmlsi=h_qeVf3evonpXbZN

    • @grassroot011
      @grassroot011 2 місяці тому

      Was, Taffy a Welshman? Haa

    • @oxcart4172
      @oxcart4172 2 місяці тому +1

      Lightning (unless they took lots of stuff out of it!)

    • @IMBlakeley
      @IMBlakeley 2 місяці тому

      @@oxcart4172 GPWM

  • @tracythorleifson
    @tracythorleifson 2 місяці тому +18

    What a great story! Dad was an RCAF Sabre pilot. He met and married my Mom while stationed in Zweibrucken, Germany. He went to radar school in Fort Huachuca, AZ, and my folks fell in love with the desert. After he mustered out of the service, my folks headed back to Arizona. I was born in Tucson a few years later. 😃

    • @gyrene_asea4133
      @gyrene_asea4133 2 місяці тому +1

      Best to you and yours. One of the better origin stories for military types, eh?

  • @johnnyreno7200
    @johnnyreno7200 2 місяці тому +45

    I know this stunt put people's lives at stake but, I couldn't help that it put a smile on my face. This guy lived more life in an hour than some of us do in a lifetime.

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 2 місяці тому +2

      Luckily there were no ice cream shops nearby..... 😮

    • @sheilatruax6172
      @sheilatruax6172 2 місяці тому +1

      That would have been wonderful! I was denied fighter pilot training because of corrective lenses, iin the 70s. Grumble,!

  • @johncooper4637
    @johncooper4637 2 місяці тому +6

    I had a cousin who was an F-86 pilot in Korea during the war (he also flew B-17s, P-51s and P-47s in WWII, 168 missions in all). We were stationed in Japan and when he came to Japan on R and R he let me sit in the seat of an F-86 during an airshow. I think I was 5 at the time.

  • @ericthomsen9644
    @ericthomsen9644 2 місяці тому +8

    My father was Army Air Corp during WWII. He was a base weatherman in Burma, but often helped out with plane maintenance since he had machinist experience in civilian life. He would also help taxiing planes back to their parking areas after maintenance. He often said it was very tempting to jam that throttle forward and take flight. He did manage to lift the tail one time, but if he took off he knew what the penalties were and never did.

  • @CameronMcCreary
    @CameronMcCreary 2 місяці тому +7

    "The runway looked so good, I let'er go" made me laugh. 😅

  • @TheStuport
    @TheStuport 2 місяці тому +47

    My Dad was a 30 year USAF Pilot and Officer. After Korea, he was stationed at Luke AFB in Arizona as a Squadron Leader in teaching Pilots from different NATO friendly Countries to the USA. He flew the F-86 back then. Unfortunately, during a maneuver, a pilot accidently shot my Dads plane and severely wounded his leg. He lost so much blood in minutes and he was temporarily blinded. Another Squadron leader heard his MAYDAY and came up along side him and proceeded to tell my Dad what his coordinates were while letting him know as easily as he could that his landing gear was torn up. Dad was talked down by his fellow Squadron Leader and ended up landing on the belly of the aircraft. This was eventually written up in Collier's Magazine and condensed in Reader's Digest under their "Drama In Real Life" series. Both stories were titled "Belly It In". Dad was able to have his leg saved and eventually flew helicopters for the majority of his flying days. IF he doesn't survive this event, me and my Twin brother and little sister are not here! He ended up receiving The Air Force's Distinguished Flying Cross. Forever and a day me and my siblings considered our Dad our very own Chuck Yeager!

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  2 місяці тому +9

      I’d love to do an episode on your Father’s story. Please feel free to email me at thg@thehistoryguy.net

    • @jon9021
      @jon9021 2 місяці тому +2

      That’s amazing! Thanks for sharing!

    • @jon9021
      @jon9021 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel so would I!

    • @TheStuport
      @TheStuport 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jon9021 Salute Jon!👋

    • @TheStuport
      @TheStuport 2 місяці тому +4

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel I will follow up with my still living siblings and see what we can get to you Mr. Geiger. Dad has since gone to "Touch The Face Of God", but he would have absolutely loved your channel Sir! MOO From COW-lumbus, Ohio 👋

  • @timbrwolf1121
    @timbrwolf1121 2 місяці тому +15

    The F86 really was an incredible bird. The fact that he seemed to have such an enjoyable time flying with no real experience. It's honestly a great advertisement for the aircraft.

  • @jodicreager
    @jodicreager 2 місяці тому +11

    I grew up in Las Vegas in the 40's and 50's. Nellis Air Force Base was close by and they were flying these beauties as well as T -33 trainers ..I remember well them flying overhead and the absolute thrill that a young boy can achieve at such a wonderful site. We were lucky enough to have a few pilots from Nellis at that time visit our dinner table on a regular basis. This has always been one of my very favorite aircraft...thank you for sharing this story.

  • @markhughes7927
    @markhughes7927 2 місяці тому +4

    ..in my youth jobbing as an automated rolled towel deliverer by a wrong turn I accessed the runway area of Heathrow London. Have to confess that the fantastic idea of zooming my delivery van down a main runway crossed my mind…

  • @bjam66
    @bjam66 2 місяці тому +4

    I was an engine mechanic and did runs on C-5, C-141, and F-111 aircraft. At no time did I even imagine flying one

    • @tommyjenkins7453
      @tommyjenkins7453 2 місяці тому

      I worked ECS on F111Fs so don't tell me you never say in that cockpit full of wonderful switches and gadgets and imagined yourself up amongst the clouds being the coolest medium bomber xxxxx I mean fighter pilot around 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @wes_d
    @wes_d 2 місяці тому +12

    It’s amazing that any of us survived our youth…and many didn’t. Excellent story.

  • @craighoover1495
    @craighoover1495 2 місяці тому +9

    I enjoyed this as my father piloted the Sabre early in his career in the Air Force. He described a situation where he had to perform a landing at Eniwetok Island from 30K feet after loosing the engine. Lost a bucket, he said. He was assigned there temporarily from Williams AFB where he was performing air sampling during nuclear weapons testing. He said this was his favorite plane to fly.

  • @markaustin643
    @markaustin643 2 місяці тому +8

    As a pilot and a USAF veteran (and son of an F-86 pilot who trained at Williams AFB), I loved this story. Keep up the good work.
    BTW - Your video from 5:35 to 5:55 is an F-84 (in Thunderbird paint scheme).

    • @gyrene_asea4133
      @gyrene_asea4133 2 місяці тому

      So, 'ya noticed that one too. : ) I still just enjoy the hell out of the old 'heavy metal' b/w footage.

  • @brucesherman5625
    @brucesherman5625 2 місяці тому +19

    Thank you for another interesting and entertaining piece of history.
    It especially caught my interest as I too love flying.

  • @zZ55442
    @zZ55442 2 місяці тому +24

    This incident is the reason today USAF enlisted personnel are not allowed to taxi aircraft. I remember when we did an exercise with the Royal Australian AF. The USAF guys were all shocked the first time we saw the Australian enlisted guys taxiing their aircraft around.
    I was in the AF in the 90s and had the same bases Johnston had: Lackland - Chanute - Luke. RIP Chanute AFB.

    • @loose-arrow-garage
      @loose-arrow-garage 2 місяці тому +7

      I was allowed to taxi F-16s in the ANG as a Crew Chief. That privilege was taken away in the early 90s.

    • @scottrichardson8158
      @scottrichardson8158 2 місяці тому

      Not to be pedantic; but this incident was not the actual reason why that restriction was put into place. Nobody was seriously hurt in this incident. The incident that put the hiatus on enlisted personnel taxing aircraft was due to a mechanic taking off and losing a C-130 (as well as himself though that loss was quite minor).

    • @YeOldeTraveller
      @YeOldeTraveller 2 місяці тому

      Must have gotten really rattled as I found the plane easy to fly when I got the chance. I was stationed at Little Rock AFB where there were just a few around.

    • @elrobo3568
      @elrobo3568 2 місяці тому +1

      @@scottrichardson8158 The reason he was "lost" was being shot down.

    • @tommyjenkins7453
      @tommyjenkins7453 2 місяці тому

      Really I saw a documentary that included Chanute it's dilapidated and trashed,,madee sick to my stomach,,I went to tech school there in 73

  • @ashtonbull5758
    @ashtonbull5758 2 місяці тому +10

    Just imagine if the history guy was your neighbor how badass the barbecues would be.. so full of information I cannot get enough

  • @1492tomato
    @1492tomato 2 місяці тому +1

    You sir are one of the best storytellers in media today. This was one of my favorites. While this stunt was stupid and dangerous, I can only imagine how this young man must have felt when that jet lifted. I'm no fan of stupid pranks but this one made me grin from ear to ear. I suspect, behind the scenes, a lot of senior officers were grinning as well. Thank you!

  • @GlowingTube
    @GlowingTube 2 місяці тому +2

    I was 9 years old when a formation of CAC Avon powered Sabers flew over our school with a massive roar.

  • @stevenjones6490
    @stevenjones6490 2 місяці тому +2

    Great story. However, the aircraft taxiing out, at 5m35s and taking off at 9m50s, are F-84F Thunderstreaks. The Thunderbirds, in the video, flew them in 1955.

  • @dlkline27
    @dlkline27 2 місяці тому +11

    Being retired Air Guard, I heard about this event but this is the first time I've heard a detailed account. Thank you for a fascinating story. P.S.: Our squadron flew a couple different versions of the F-86, the last being the F-86H.

  • @georgeperkins4171
    @georgeperkins4171 2 місяці тому +39

    I wonder if he logged that one hour of f86 flight time in his log book.

    • @Twolegger
      @Twolegger 2 місяці тому +8

      There are a few hours that aren’t in my log book, though I never stole the aircraft involved. Ranks up there with my wedding and the birth of my children as the most unsurpassable moments of my life.

    • @georgeperkins4171
      @georgeperkins4171 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Twolegger I know. I used to find a way to work my pilots license into conversations early on. I did get to fly backseat in a ta4j shyhawk when I was an enlisted man. They allowed us to go thru seat check training. Unfortunately, that was B4 I had a license and I was real nervous

  • @jonnybo5890
    @jonnybo5890 2 місяці тому +6

    My grandfather liked to tell the story of the F-86 that broke the sound barrier before Yeager in the Bell X-1. Officially, it never happened, but it did.

    • @cbroz7492
      @cbroz7492 2 місяці тому +1

      ..in a dive...

  • @antonleimbach648
    @antonleimbach648 2 місяці тому +1

    My dad was a Navy mechanic and eventually an Air Force crew chief from WWII Catalina PBY’s to KC-139’s. Knowing him I’m really surprised he never did this. He had tons of wacky stories of himself and his buddies during those years. I took him to an air show when he was getting pretty old and he walked right past the rope and up to a PBY and started to get in.

  • @rgs4x
    @rgs4x 2 місяці тому +4

    Growing up as a kid I was infatuated with the F-86. When I saw the John Wayne movie Jet Pilot I was hooked. I used to draw them daily.

  • @haraldd4838
    @haraldd4838 2 місяці тому +8

    Again a pleasure to listen. Thank you

  • @robinwells8879
    @robinwells8879 2 місяці тому +1

    I do love your gentle delivery style and choice of content. It never fails to please. 👍

  • @kh40yr
    @kh40yr 2 місяці тому +5

    They say a prototype F86 broke the sound barrier, just hours before Chuck did it in the Bell Aircraft.
    F-86 first flew Oct 1st, Chuck "officially" broke the sound barrier, on the 14th.

  • @daviddewey2107
    @daviddewey2107 2 місяці тому +19

    As a lifelong wannabe be pilot, who's only had a few lessons. This whole thing was very real to me. A wonderful episode.

  • @larryjohnson7591
    @larryjohnson7591 2 місяці тому +1

    As a crew chief on C-130's in the late 70's, because he did this, it was almost impossible to even turn the props on the plane without having the cops or the tower getting all kinds of excited. It took this long before enlisted people could even do an engine start on the flightline until 1978! And that was a 4-engine turboprop plane.

  • @cw1245
    @cw1245 2 місяці тому +11

    Similar thing happened in 1983/4 at El Toro CA. A Marine E4 air craft mechanic intentionally took off in an A4 at night and flew around the area and safety landed. I was in an infantry battalion at Camp Pendleton and one of our air officers was an A4 pilot. We gave him grief and said a corporal can do his job.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  2 місяці тому +4

      ua-cam.com/video/HersvTbNdC0/v-deo.htmlsi=cgZoMJgnGrA3kTWU

    • @benparadude2028
      @benparadude2028 2 місяці тому +4

      His name was Lipo Foote , he was in my unit and also my room mate….

    • @rockhopper01
      @rockhopper01 2 місяці тому +4

      Can’t stop the E4 Mafia! 😂

    • @jon9021
      @jon9021 2 місяці тому

      @@benparadude2028😮

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 2 місяці тому +1

      I thought he was a lance corporal at the time? He was a major sea story in the Air Wing for years.

  • @rotorheadv8
    @rotorheadv8 2 місяці тому +4

    My dad flew the F86 in the 50s. Maj Ernest L. Bumgarner. Just an LT and Capt in those days. He was also a WW2 vet. Combat Engineer with the 1st Marine Div. He got out as a Sgt.

  • @shawnpeterson3386
    @shawnpeterson3386 2 місяці тому +4

    I originally read this story in Smithsonian Air and Space magazine. It's great to hear it narrated.

  • @tzavitz
    @tzavitz 2 місяці тому +1

    As a young boy in the 60’s, my favorite book was “Sabre Jet Ace” by Charles Coombs. I loved that plane and read the book over and over

  • @nonokodog622
    @nonokodog622 2 місяці тому +3

    My wife's grand father few Sabers after the war. I have all his flight gear. In these trying times we really miss our grand parents.

  • @PatrickDraper
    @PatrickDraper 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @vlmellody51
    @vlmellody51 2 місяці тому +4

    I was a student at the University of Arizona when a fighter plane successfully avoided crashing into our dorm and landed on 6th street. The pilot was killed, but he saved many lives.

  • @Texas_Man_in_Black
    @Texas_Man_in_Black 2 місяці тому +2

    I guess we have all made a bad decision of two in our lives, I know I have but mine involved a few minor speeding tickets. I am glad he got home safe, the punishment was quite fair. the Aircraft was really not seriously damaged. His comanding officers were really good about this and showed great leadership. Thanks for the wonderful story, you do great work !😃

  • @lancerevell5979
    @lancerevell5979 2 місяці тому +4

    I was a USAF avionics tech on T-33A jet trainers and the McDonnell F-101B/F Voodoo and Convair F-106A/B Delta Dart interceptors. On the T-33A it was so simple (a twoseat version of the venerable Lockheed F-80 fighter) we techs did a lot of crosstraining. I did some engine, electrical and hydraulic work on it. We would climb in and taxi a T-bird across the runway to the engine trim pad, or to the Compass Rose. It was one of the funner things we techs got to do. 😊
    But we knew to NEVER try to fly it. 😮

    • @mlewis8579
      @mlewis8579 2 місяці тому

      My dad flew the 1oh wonder in the 60’s

  • @boydlewis8747
    @boydlewis8747 2 місяці тому +8

    my dad was in the AF during this time as a jet mechanic, I wonder if he had the same thoughts about flying too, LOL

    • @HM2SGT
      @HM2SGT 2 місяці тому +5

      Hard to imagine he didn't. Who wouldn't? 😁

  • @rackets001
    @rackets001 2 місяці тому +2

    As an A&P certificated mechanic, I recall working a couple years for a regional airline. We were doing an engine test run after maintenance and taxied out to the run-up pad at the end of a busy airport runway. After our check out, we normally taxied back from whence we came using the same taxiway. This time, however, several commercial flights were lined up behind us. The only way back was using the runway. Air Traffic told us there was an aircraft on final, "without delay" taxi back on the runway to the nearest highspeed exit that was about 1 mile down said runway. We didn't want to obstruct a landing aircraft, so we spun up the engines of our CRJ700. Sitting in the copilot seat, I wasn't really paying attention to the airspeed, but we must have been going pretty fast, since the airplane called out "flaps config - flaps config!" Meaning that we were nearing takeoff speed, but we hadn't set the flaps for take-off, so we may run out of runway before we're airborne. We didn't get off the ground, but we taxied faster than I had ever taxied before, and that was fast enough for me!

  • @KokkiePiet
    @KokkiePiet 2 місяці тому +2

    I once read that when it was introduced to the Korean War it was to heavy because all the electronics. When this was mostly removed it was so much lighter it could take on the migs. It’s all plexiglass canopy was also a huge advantage because it gave the pilots a much better view than from the migs

  • @curtisramsey2023
    @curtisramsey2023 2 місяці тому +1

    That’s a great story! I grew up a few miles from Williams AFB and never heard this before! Thx history guy!

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 2 місяці тому +6

    There may be more elegant shapes than that of the F-86, but I’m not sure I’ve seen any.

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 2 місяці тому +10

    Back in the Saddle Again Naturally

  • @bobbyb.1743
    @bobbyb.1743 2 місяці тому

    Dad had 109missions in the F-80 in Korea & transitioned into the F-86 when it came on-board. He spoke highly of the F-86D as “the hottest thing in the inventory” at the time. Such a great looking a/c and tough as nails!😊

  • @jamesengland7461
    @jamesengland7461 2 місяці тому +2

    A great story, artfully conveyed as always, Lance.

  • @TrickiVicBB71
    @TrickiVicBB71 2 місяці тому +3

    Great story

  • @jackseward7779
    @jackseward7779 2 місяці тому +3

    In 1967, while in the USAF, I watched the Thunderbirds fly F-86s at our base near Del Rio. The last maneuver, the Bomb Burst, turned out to be a show-stopper. The center jet blew off its wings and crashed, Fortunately, no one was injured. I saved a subsequent newspaper article about the cause - metal fatigue.

    • @stevevernon1978
      @stevevernon1978 2 місяці тому +1

      I don't recall ever hearing that the Thunderbirds ever flew F-86s. You may be misremembering the aircraft type. Or you may be misremembering the flight team name. It happens to all of us at one time or another.

    • @jackseward7779
      @jackseward7779 2 місяці тому

      You were correct to doubt mymemory. I found the news article online, and it was an F-100 Supersabre that lost its wings during our air show. Oh, well.@@stevevernon1978

  • @waitaminute-vw9hf
    @waitaminute-vw9hf 2 місяці тому +3

    I envy that guy. I would have done the same thing. When you work on jet planes every day, it's hard not to think what it is like to fly one.

  • @SamhainBe
    @SamhainBe 2 місяці тому +3

    Gotta' say, sounds like fun!

  • @6000Chipmunks
    @6000Chipmunks 2 місяці тому +1

    This story brings back some great memories.

  • @philwhite3760
    @philwhite3760 2 місяці тому +3

    I had heard about this when I served at Willie... I thought it was just one of those wild crew chief legends.
    Thank you for telling us this story.

    • @gyrene_asea4133
      @gyrene_asea4133 2 місяці тому

      We moved a few years ago to a very nice home w/ view fence of the approach to Williams/Gateway Airport 120/30. Very fun for me to watch old wwII and even F-20s work the patterns. Wife says the jets upset her cats. I don't answer that.

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel 2 місяці тому +1

    With youthful exuberance, he is the kind of guy the service needs. Cool and steady with an attention to detail, he would have gone far in the enlisted ranks if he had stayed in. Good Officers in command at the time didn't think ruining his life would be good. We as a nation and people need to return to that notioin. Yeah, he never got to fly an F-86 on Uncle Sugar Dime, and here I am, a retired pilot who has never flown a jet. Lots of turboprops and turbine helicopters, but no jet for me. Oh I was born in 1955, it was a different time.

  • @tjyonkero
    @tjyonkero 2 місяці тому +1

    Loved this story, great work

  • @rconger24
    @rconger24 2 місяці тому +6

    Everyone should have their very own F86 in their garage!

  • @johnbante5594
    @johnbante5594 2 місяці тому +2

    What cool story !!!

  • @danam0228
    @danam0228 2 місяці тому +6

    3:08 Hey, my son is there right now for basic training! 😊

    • @HM2SGT
      @HM2SGT 2 місяці тому +1

      Congratulations. I wish him the best of luck, I hope his enlistment is as fun and rewarding as mine, if a little less eventful. 👍🫡

    • @danam0228
      @danam0228 2 місяці тому +2

      @HM2SGT I thank you on his behalf 🫡

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 2 місяці тому +3

      In my Airforce time I did Basic in Lackland AFB, then Avionics Tech School at Chanute AFB in 1976. Chanute was closed many years ago.

    • @danam0228
      @danam0228 2 місяці тому

      @lancerevell5979 👍🫡

  • @RalphTempleton-vr6xs
    @RalphTempleton-vr6xs 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow. That's the experience of a lifetime right there, he probably considered that one of the high points of his life. And what a story to tell!

  • @cgrscott
    @cgrscott 2 місяці тому

    This was a great story and very well told. Thanks, Lance.

  • @kenyarbro5595
    @kenyarbro5595 2 місяці тому

    That's an amazing story. Thanks for sharing.

  • @larryniidji
    @larryniidji 2 місяці тому +1

    You nailed it on this one! Have you looked at the all the stories on the Flight Simulators? The C130 before test flights had been done, the simulator was built. Then the manufacturer approached them and said they had a problem on take-off and landing. The simulator people filled in the rest of the story. They had been trying to get the shake out of the simulator for "old shakey".

  • @chethaynes5802
    @chethaynes5802 2 місяці тому

    OUTSTANDING !

  • @BasicDrumming
    @BasicDrumming 2 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate you and thank you for making content.

  • @Acme-s8z
    @Acme-s8z 2 місяці тому +1

    Great episode!

  • @Pazaroni436
    @Pazaroni436 2 місяці тому +1

    Every time I pass by the EAA museum in Oshkosh WI I enjoy the view of real Sabre on pedestal right by I-41 . It's a real beauty

  • @kellybasham3113
    @kellybasham3113 2 місяці тому +1

    Love your videos

  • @Leoviga53
    @Leoviga53 2 місяці тому +1

    Great episode and wonderful history. Thank you very much.

  • @robert-trading-as-Bob69
    @robert-trading-as-Bob69 2 місяці тому +3

    I think everyone who has done any kind of military service has had those intrusive thoughts to see (or prove) if they could do something similar.
    For me, it was the Olifant tank and the Rooikat AFV... I went so far as sneaking in to the lecture rooms where the brand-new, one of a kind, Rooikat simulator was kept, and had hours of illegal fun in the thing.
    To this day, 34 years later, I swear I could have driven one off the base with no-one realizing I was unauthorized to do so.
    That is as far as my little act of rebellion went however.
    My bungalow was right next to the Detention Barracks, so I knew better than most the punishment I'd face if I gave in to my school-boy desire.
    Driving a landrover at night in the Light Vehicle Yard during guard-duty was another story though.
    When the Guard Room NCO called us up over the radio to find out what was going on, we'd stop the vehicle and reply that we'd investigate the issue.
    Eventually, after we'd all had a turn racing the vehicle around, we'd tell the Duty NCO that some civilians were holding drag races outside the base.
    We could only do this over the Christmas period when the base was mostly empty.
    We never got bust.

  • @shawnr771
    @shawnr771 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the lesson.

  • @heatherburger1666
    @heatherburger1666 2 місяці тому

    I enjoy your history lessons. My time is well spent learning something new. Thanks for making history fun to learn. Keep it up sir.

  • @RetiredSailor60
    @RetiredSailor60 2 місяці тому +2

    As the son of a private pilot, runways uses reference to 360° of a compass, minus the (zero)° such as 35L(eft) or 35R(ight). L and R tells the pilots which way they are to turn the plane upon lift off or approach the runway upon landing.

  • @fredklein724
    @fredklein724 2 місяці тому +1

    Great! One your best videos.

  • @johngregg5735
    @johngregg5735 2 місяці тому +17

    This is my idea of a flight of fantasy

  • @marknelson5929
    @marknelson5929 2 місяці тому

    That was one hell of a story, he was clearly cool calm and collected. I guess it helped he was familiar with the aircrafts systems.
    You mention the F-86 Sabre was made in Australia - indeed it was by C.A.C. (Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation). What many may not know is that around 60% percent of the fuselage was redesigned to house the Rolls-Royce Avon R.A.7., as the Avon was shorter, wider and lighter than the J47 jet engine. It is said the Avon was capable of more than double the maximum thrust and double the thrust-to-weight ratio of the US engine. The Avon Sabre as it was sometimes known had a higher top speed and higher service ceiling than the F-86.

  • @williamscoggin1509
    @williamscoggin1509 2 місяці тому +3

    Never ceases to amaze me at some of the crap that some people can get themselves into. 😅

  • @johnemerson1363
    @johnemerson1363 2 місяці тому

    In the 1980's a young Marine enlisted man was testing an A4 Skyhawk at El Toro MAS, California and took it off. He flew it around for a short time and then landed it successfully. He was appropriately treated but did not make the Marines a career. He made a real mark in the civilian aerospace world.

  • @genefenton326
    @genefenton326 2 місяці тому

    This one was fun. Oh to have that youthful exuberance. Miss that now in my 50’s. It’s good to be reminded of it though. Thanks History Guy.

  • @oreycrounk9503
    @oreycrounk9503 2 місяці тому +1

    Loved the cufflink.

  • @greggbaker7120
    @greggbaker7120 2 місяці тому

    Thank You !

  • @chuckz8053
    @chuckz8053 2 місяці тому

    Thanks, really enjoyed the show.

  • @jaykaramales3087
    @jaykaramales3087 2 місяці тому

    Great story. I can easily understand how he let his exuberance get the best of him. I'm glad it was a pretty happy ending.

  • @johnchildress6717
    @johnchildress6717 2 місяці тому

    This is a cool episode.Good for him
    Had to be a blast.

  • @darylhoyt5012
    @darylhoyt5012 2 місяці тому

    Thank you…great story, well-told.

  • @EGSBiographies-om1wb
    @EGSBiographies-om1wb 2 місяці тому

    LOL! This was well worth my time to watch!! Well done !!!

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris1984 2 місяці тому +1

    Williams Field, that is now Mesa gateway airport. That airport still stands today in about 10 years ago or so if underwent a massive overhaul and rebuilding. It is a tiny airport but a beautiful one

  • @wacojones8062
    @wacojones8062 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for this coverage, I read about it years ago.

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 2 місяці тому

    Great story, THG. Thank you.

  • @gordonbergslien30
    @gordonbergslien30 2 місяці тому +1

    A close friend of mine flew F-86's out of Perrin AFB in Texas back in the fifties. He said he was "fuel critical" as soon as the tires came off the pavement!

    • @randelbrooks
      @randelbrooks 2 місяці тому

      The guys name was Kenneth wine. Wife's name is Barbara just wondering if your family ever ran into the guy would've been mid 50s Perrin Air Force Base.

  • @georgew.5639
    @georgew.5639 2 місяці тому +2

    I know about this story. Except I thought he’s was flying in the T-33. Or an F-80. No matter, jet aircraft require a bit more skill to fly. It’s quite amazing that it turned out as well as it did. Great story.