Please read this before you make comment below: After uploading this video, I've received various comments, including some aggressive ones. When I saw comments that were misleading or crossed the line, I hid them because I couldn't respond to every single one. At the time I made this video, in early to mid-August, I based all of my narratives on the facts that were publicly available. If the Korean media made mistakes, that’s on them, not on me. As of August 25, today, based on updated information acknowledged by BTS's SUGA himself and police, here are the facts: 1. He drove an electric scooter on the pedestrian sidewalk, not a 'kickboard', unlike he initially stated. 2. According to the police, yes, police, not media, in his first conversation with them, he stated that he had just a glass of beer, but it was later found that his blood alcohol level was 0.227%, far beyond the driver's license suspension threshold of 0.08%. 3. In his first public statement, he said he drove an electric kickboard, but today, he admitted that it was actually an electric scooter. 4. One media outlet, JTBC, apologized for mistakenly showing CCTV footage of someone else, not SUGA. Please also note that it's not me, but the voices of some BTS fans who demanded SUGA's departure from the group due to his initial response to the public. The word "dishonest" in the video was not also mine but the actual language used by these fans. The fact that I have to defend myself here from harsh comments in relation to my video exactly highlights how intense the fandom surrounding K-POP stars can get... I hope you will refrain from making false or hateful comments here. Finally, note that I love and respect BTS, as they're the pride of Korea. So don't assume that I'm against them or trying to tarnish their reputation. Please watch the entire video, so you can focus on the message itself. Thanks.
I liked how you made your videos and the information you provided about SK. Now, as an ARMY, I am very disappointed with the misinformation about SUGA's incident spread by K-media. So in your video, the problem is that most "facts" are just unproved and unofficial opinions, not documents or official announcements by police. That said really with no anger or what else. The claim that SUGA was very drunk so he fell unconscious on the road proved untrue: in the real CCTV, he is driving the electric scooter at a slow speed and in an impressively straight line. Yes, he fell because the turn to park in front of his house was very close, but he got up quickly. His only mistake was that he drank, but there hasn't been any official announcement, until now, to clarify the alcohol percentage in his blood or the number of drinks he had. Those who told SUGA to leave BTS, aren't real ARMYs. Probably are antis who found the opportunity to hit BTS cowardly when almost all of them (except Jin) are in the military. It isn't ARMY toxic and this is a fact based on its previous actions until today. ARMY is an enormous fandom of millions and millions all over the planet, so if it is as toxic as other fandoms of any country, every day would be full of scandals, tragedies, crimes, etc. That's why I must mention that it isn't the right example to prove the dark side of fan love, especially with this incident. Last but not least, this incident (which became a huge ridiculous scandal of the misleading claims of K-media for disturbing reasons that aren't the time to discuss) is still under investigation. So it would be the right decision for you at this moment, to take out the part about SUGA until the investigation is completed and the truth unveiled. Thank you for your patience.
False armies demanded Suga’s departure of the group. False armies spread bad rumors. True armies help him to reveal the truth made by media JTBC. Suga is not married yet. Army is an international fandom and we support him every day because he and his members support and help us to grow positively. Hope you will be able to listen to their Love yourself campaign and songs. Take care and have fun during your trip ! 🌸
It wasn't even Army, they are literally fans of NCT and Min Heejin....Army all around the world have the same opinion, we are against the media not Suga....
Encore une vidéo claire et courageuse. Pour ma part c'est une façon de faire que je ne comprendrai jamais. Le fandom je veux dire. En Europe les artistes s'appartiennent. Tout ce qui va trop loin finit devant les tribunaux. Mais quand je vois des images de fans agglutinés filmant quoi on se le demande ,le dos de l'artiste sûrement, je ne peux pas m'empêcher de penser à un troupeau sans cervelle mais avec un portable. Et pour ce qui est de suga , à Paris des artistes saouls il y en a tous les weekends. Aucun n'a jamais fait une lettre d'excuses. La Corée est le pays de la contrition institutionnalisée. Pour une gauloise réfractaire comme moi ( c'est comme ça que nous appelle notre président) c'est tout simplement incompréhensible. Le rapport à l'argent est important dans cette histoire. Ils en gagnent autant qu'ils en rapporte à leurs agences. Et du coup il est plus facile de mener une foule qu'un seul individu. Regardez ce qui se passe avec Rowoon un supposé baiser avec une femme de 52 ans ( merci Rowoon de trouver belles les femmes de plus de 50 ans 😅)et c'est le scandale absolu. Les idoles devraient se rébeller si elles veulent se sauver. Mais je pense que plusieurs générations seront nécessaires pour faire bouger les choses. Il y a beaucoup de violence en Corée liée à une éducation d'un autre temps. Attention je ne juge pas. Chacun voit midi à sa porte. Moi je préfère voir la vôtre de loin,profiter de leurs artistes si doués et si beaux, profiter de leur dramas et c'est tout . Ce n'est pas réducteur mais nous avons aussi des problèmes de violence d'un autre ordre et n'avons de leçon à donner à personne. Le taux de suicide des jeunes est élevé aussi dans notre pays et les pays européens. C'est triste des sociétés qui abandonnent leurs jeunes et ne leur donnent aucun espoir. Merci à vous deux pour vos vidéos éclairantes et si intéressantes.Bravo
Wow! Wow! I'm seriously intrigued now. I not a super fan of any Korean celebrity. However, I do admire work by several artists. I do personally find this fandom to be an insane level. I don't understand why these people do not have respect for another person's privacy and personal choices. Especially who they wanna date and marry. It is probably why my favourite actors are still single. Really sad.
You both are doing a very good job and have a special UA-cam ability. You should feel very proud. I'm pretty sure you will succeed if you keep going. I'm a Korean American rooting for you! Thank you for quitting the normal stressful life in Korea.
Interesting information and it is fascinating to see how popular globally K-Pop and Korean culture has become since I left Korea in 2014. I do miss the Korean movies of the early 2000s though. I know they were not the globally recognized movies of today, but there was something special and unique about the films like 달콤한 인생, 봄 여름 가을 겨울 그리고 봄, and 친구. I like to think those movies and Korean culture showcase during the 2002 World Cup helped open the world's eye to just how unique and special Korean culture is from the food, language, movies, music, and language. On a side note: my favourite Korean musical group is 크라잉넛! Haha - they always look like they're having so much fun performing!
1st I want to tell y’all are a lovely couple, so cute 😊 Thank you for the content you provide. No matter the discussion, each episode is so informative & interesting. I’ve been a K-Drama fan for 5 years & I am so heartbroken at times when the actors I love to watch are treated terribly. It is almost like the general public has control over their lives & to me it is so wrong. For any artist, whether actors or singers, they should be able to date, marry, have children & enjoy the lives they’ve made for themselves, but unfortunately the fanbase controls this. Until something changes in respect to our favorite artists lives, the bad behavior will continue. I just wish every aspect of cancel culture would go away, we’d be so much better off if it did. Sadly love turns to hate & driven by a force unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Thank you for always giving the best information in each episode. I think you’ve got a pretty good fan base & it can only grow. Take care & may you both be blessed ❤
Thank you for your lovely compliment! I am experiencing what an intense fandom is really like in a bad way for this very episode.. Stay tuned for my upcoming videos:)
@@abitdifferentkoreans Thank you for your reply. I am so sorry you both are experiencing negative backlash but this too shall pass. Stay strong & all will be well. I look forward to the next episode. Oh, I have a quick question. I have a fish, shellfish & soy allergy & cannot try traditional kimchi. When I visit S Korea, in the spring, is there a version of kimchi that is made without fish sauce? Many thanks & blessings to you both. 😊
@@Linda_Ann-ex9cm thank you for your encouraging words! As for Kimchi, yes, most Kimchi contain 'jeotgal', a fish sauce, so go for either vegan Kimchi or 'baekgimchi'(white Kimchi)
Thanks for this video its good to discuss both the pros and cons of the entertainment industry. I do find Korea's obsessive fandom hard to grasp at times and in particular the media in the incident of Parasite actor Lee Sun Kyun which was tragic. In Ireland, which has produced world top music groups, singers and actors we have a culture where they can freely walk the streets without being harassed. It is also in our society if a "celebrity" gets too over-confident and cocky they would be put down very quickly by their own people. We don't hold these people on pedestals but are proud when Ireland is on centre stage globally from a country perspective. I grew up with boy bands eg, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, New Kids on the Block and even Bros in the 80s so can understand the hype with eg, BTS. Thankfully they were allowed to lead some sort of normal life due to the non-existence of social media and cameras everywhere!!! Keep up the work.
BTS are totally different from other boybands...they aren't popular because of that, there are more deep reasons, one of them is their lyricism and genuine and sincere attitudes....they don't even act as idols, and we don't see them like that, they are just humans for us who can also make mistakes but they have proved for over a decade that they are good and decent humans so this kind of incident doesn't make even a dent into their careers in our eyes..the issue is with the K-media that spreads fake news and twists the narrative to bully these celebrities....their Korean fans aren't against them as well, there were proof that the ones who sent the trucks were fans of other groups who are antis (we already know a lot of companies an groups were waiting for the military enlistment so that BTS popularity faded out but it didn't happen so they are trying this route now)...the media even has proof that it wasn't Army but they keep reporting it as such.....we are literally tired of this witch-hunt and can't even imagine how suga night be feeling right now
É realmente complicado entender tantas diferenças culturais, mas quando vocês trazem o contexto cultural isso facilita o nosso entendimento. Obrigada por serem tão didáticos. E sobre a obsessão dos fãs coreanos, vocês acreditam que isso tem mais haver com o que as empresas fazem com os seus ídolos os colocando como um produto e deixando a entender que os fãs são proprietários dessas pessoas ou com o fato das pessoas estarem carentes e/ou não cuidarem da saúde mental? Agradeço pelos ótimos conteúdos! E sucesso com o canal! Sou do Brasil! **
thanks for your interest in our content. Yes, management company has indeed commercialized stars like products and maximize profits out of fans. In return, fans ask for such demanding standards.
It was much easier to listen to you :) thanks for not using the backgrounds while talking. It is very scary how obsessive some Korean fans can be. I have seen some of those scenarios In Kdramas. Very frightening.
Donc les star de k pop ou k drama sont comme des marionnettes aux mains de leurs fan, c est une situation malsaine de ne plus pouvoir être libre de ses choix surtout en matière d'amour ou autre . J'aii été très très grande fan voir in love de mon chanteur préféré " Prince" je voulais tout connaître de sa vie et être témoin de son bonheur car c'était une personne à part entière incluant ses amours ou ses enfants etc ...on devrait tous être heureux pour eux de leur épanouissement personnel dans leur vie privée. Les fans coréens sont plutôt toxiques enfin pas tous j'espere mais quand même ils me choque et m'attriste surtout quand ça finit pour des suicides Les stars ne nous appartiennent pas ne l oublions pas ces leurs engagements dans ce qu ils savent faire de mieux qui devraient nous faire interagir. Bless, Guidance and Lovah ❤
Thank you very much for this show. It was revealing. Of course, I still find the extreme behavior of fans immature, but I can understand how the problem arises... The most impressive thing is that even after years, the fans do not forgive... Also, at some point, I would like to hear your opinion on the treatment of women in South Korea in general. Unfortunately, I have read that the position of women became unfavorable after Gorio and until today. Thanks for the response.
By coincidence I am just finishing watching, "So I Married an Anti-Fan," which seems to reflect the sometimes overly extreme ardency of Korean fans. I often wondered why K celebrities are so secretive about their dating lives and this explains it. It truly is unfortunate and a dark downside of being a celebrity. They deserve to be able to date/marry whomever they chose without interference or extreme scrutiny, to make mistakes, and to receive forgiveness. As my father used to say, like everyone else, celebrities put their pants on one leg at a time. Great channel!
Wow, after watching the video and reading the comments all I can say is that Korean people seem to be so lonely in their minds - would you dedicate your precious time to someone you do not even know personally? Logically you should care the most about your family and friends but here the whole "fandom" thing goes waaay beyond reasonable behaviour. Who cares what Suga said about what he did? That's on him and his conscience. He's a regular human being just like any other with his ups and downs in life and moments of fear and confidence. Leave the man alone and let him take care of his deeds. And it would be really wise for all the fans to take care of their own lives instead of following someone else's. And if any of you misinterpret what I've written here that simply indicates that you are totally unaware of yourself and your emotions. Stay healthy, stay happy - and follow your life not a fictional relationship with someone from a silver screen on top charts! Value yourself!❤
Im not too familiar with K Pop but I have noticed in some K dramas like Record of Youth where the fans so easily turn on the Star and wondered if things like that also happen in real life. Now I know. Thanks Sean and Jin for an interesting and informative video ❤😊
This can be a good or bad thing for the idol or actress or actors because I believe fan end up acting like they a in control of theses people life. One problem saying who they can date and if they make a mistake the fans a very unforgiving which I believe is wrong that is the reason it is not a good thing to idolize anyone.
In the case of suga the fans aren't even against him it's the media twisting the facts in purpose, and even in Lee sun kyung case, the media were the culprits...I think the focus should be put more on the yellow press and all their fake news rather than on the fans... because most of these ppl had and still have ppl who support them but the thing that makes them lose hope is the smear campaigns and witch-hunt by the media that ends up manipulating public opinion
Unfortunately for Korean haters, BTS does not owe anything to them as they become popular by international fans. It is the international army’s that supported BTS through and through. We ARMYs are not easily swayed by Suga’s mishap as we are human and subjected to failure. Those haters are definitely not perfect both in words and actions. We don’t demand BTS to be perfect as we aren’t. By the way, congratulations on your channel. I accidentally stumble on your channel and I like it very much. Now I am one of those who follow you. Your channel is very mature and very insightful. Viewers got to learn new from you. Well done and keep it up!
about UA-camrs, it doesn't just happen in Korea..the same thing also happens in Indonesia..if a foreign UA-camr makes a video about Indonesia..they suddenly become popular like celebrities
Sean, real friendly advice. You obviously speak English well and better than Jin but you should really have Jin talk more and express her thoughts, even if she has trouble with English. I'm pretty sure it will help grow your channel and improve her confidence.
Thanks for your comment! Jin is actually pretty shy and it took a while actually for me to convince her to appear on our channel and speak:) She'll speak more going forward~
@@abitdifferentkoreansI really like the natural and comfortable dynamic you both have and hope you will both trust yourselves above any pressures you get from comments like these. I will point out that a lot of people watching your videos are also huge Kdrama fans that are all in Korean and we watch them all with subtitles so at least for me…. I really like the combination of English + Korean in your videos so I hope you and she don’t feel any pressure to have everything in English. 🙂
i've noticed these behaviours before, whether positive or negative. i've especially wondered why an artist like iu needs a bodyguard. could it be that management uses the emotional connection of fans to keep the business profitable?
thanks for your interest as always~ In case of IU, she literally needs bodyguards around her, as fans come onto her. Many k-pop idols accompany bodyguards in fact, even male stars~
I believe Taylor Swift and Beyoncé in the US have similar committed fandoms but perhaps without the toxic downsides. Taylor Swift fans are called Swifties and Beyoncé’s fans are called BeyHive. It’s interesting you picked up on Nick K’s recent sudden rise in popularity on UA-cam. I was one of those who recently found him as I like watching Korea travel videos. On the topic of tragic consequences of Korean fandom, do you have any comments or insights on how that phenomena related to the suicide of Parasite actor Lee Sun-Kyun ?
As you mentioned, fandoms of U.S.-based stars are generally healthier because fans aren’t overly invested in their idols. In the case of Lee Sun-kyun’s suicide, it was primarily driven by his involvement with drugs and affairs, along with intense social pressure. As I explained in this video, the fandom that once supported him quickly turned into harsh criticism, which likely added to the pressure he faced.
@abitdifferentkoreans yes US-based and other Countries fandoms are not as devoted as with K-Pops fandoms. Fans don't spend so much money for their Idols like K-Pop fans almost spend as much as they can for their idols. For me that is very sickening already. The idols have more money than the fans doing the works for them. CRAZY mentality.
I remember thier interviews in tv show....international army who made them popular around the world....so thats means mostly korean they are not supporting bts...because i think they not handsome, tall, masculado...
I t hink it is all overated and just not very good for lives of the young artists. You did not mention Mukbangers (lot of them are from Korea ) and have millions of fans. This is also something which is too much. Thank you for your hard work. Keep well. Cheers
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Please read this before you make comment below:
After uploading this video, I've received various comments, including some aggressive ones. When I saw comments that were misleading or crossed the line, I hid them because I couldn't respond to every single one.
At the time I made this video, in early to mid-August, I based all of my narratives on the facts that were publicly available. If the Korean media made mistakes, that’s on them, not on me.
As of August 25, today, based on updated information acknowledged by BTS's SUGA himself and police, here are the facts:
1. He drove an electric scooter on the pedestrian sidewalk, not a 'kickboard', unlike he initially stated.
2. According to the police, yes, police, not media, in his first conversation with them, he stated that he had just a glass of beer, but it was later found that his blood alcohol level was 0.227%, far beyond the driver's license suspension threshold of 0.08%.
3. In his first public statement, he said he drove an electric kickboard, but today, he admitted that it was actually an electric scooter.
4. One media outlet, JTBC, apologized for mistakenly showing CCTV footage of someone else, not SUGA.
Please also note that it's not me, but the voices of some BTS fans who demanded SUGA's departure from the group due to his initial response to the public. The word "dishonest" in the video was not also mine but the actual language used by these fans.
The fact that I have to defend myself here from harsh comments in relation to my video exactly highlights how intense the fandom surrounding K-POP stars can get...
I hope you will refrain from making false or hateful comments here.
Finally, note that I love and respect BTS, as they're the pride of Korea. So don't assume that I'm against them or trying to tarnish their reputation. Please watch the entire video, so you can focus on the message itself. Thanks.
I liked how you made your videos and the information you provided about SK. Now, as an ARMY, I am very disappointed with the misinformation about SUGA's incident spread by K-media. So in your video, the problem is that most "facts" are just unproved and unofficial opinions, not documents or official announcements by police. That said really with no anger or what else.
The claim that SUGA was very drunk so he fell unconscious on the road proved untrue: in the real CCTV, he is driving the electric scooter at a slow speed and in an impressively straight line. Yes, he fell because the turn to park in front of his house was very close, but he got up quickly. His only mistake was that he drank, but there hasn't been any official announcement, until now, to clarify the alcohol percentage in his blood or the number of drinks he had.
Those who told SUGA to leave BTS, aren't real ARMYs. Probably are antis who found the opportunity to hit BTS cowardly when almost all of them (except Jin) are in the military. It isn't ARMY toxic and this is a fact based on its previous actions until today. ARMY is an enormous fandom of millions and millions all over the planet, so if it is as toxic as other fandoms of any country, every day would be full of scandals, tragedies, crimes, etc.
That's why I must mention that it isn't the right example to prove the dark side of fan love, especially with this incident.
Last but not least, this incident (which became a huge ridiculous scandal of the misleading claims of K-media for disturbing reasons that aren't the time to discuss) is still under investigation. So it would be the right decision for you at this moment, to take out the part about SUGA until the investigation is completed and the truth unveiled. Thank you for your patience.
False armies demanded Suga’s departure of the group. False armies spread bad rumors. True armies help him to reveal the truth made by media JTBC. Suga is not married yet. Army is an international fandom and we support him every day because he and his members support and help us to grow positively. Hope you will be able to listen to their Love yourself campaign and songs. Take care and have fun during your trip ! 🌸
Yes, true armies won't do such misbehavior for sure:) thanks!
It wasn't even Army, they are literally fans of NCT and Min Heejin....Army all around the world have the same opinion, we are against the media not Suga....
Encore une vidéo claire et courageuse. Pour ma part c'est une façon de faire que je ne comprendrai jamais. Le fandom je veux dire. En Europe les artistes s'appartiennent. Tout ce qui va trop loin finit devant les tribunaux. Mais quand je vois des images de fans agglutinés filmant quoi on se le demande ,le dos de l'artiste sûrement, je ne peux pas m'empêcher de penser à un troupeau sans cervelle mais avec un portable. Et pour ce qui est de suga , à Paris des artistes saouls il y en a tous les weekends. Aucun n'a jamais fait une lettre d'excuses. La Corée est le pays de la contrition institutionnalisée. Pour une gauloise réfractaire comme moi ( c'est comme ça que nous appelle notre président) c'est tout simplement incompréhensible. Le rapport à l'argent est important dans cette histoire. Ils en gagnent autant qu'ils en rapporte à leurs agences. Et du coup il est plus facile de mener une foule qu'un seul individu. Regardez ce qui se passe avec Rowoon un supposé baiser avec une femme de 52 ans ( merci Rowoon de trouver belles les femmes de plus de 50 ans 😅)et c'est le scandale absolu. Les idoles devraient se rébeller si elles veulent se sauver. Mais je pense que plusieurs générations seront nécessaires pour faire bouger les choses. Il y a beaucoup de violence en Corée liée à une éducation d'un autre temps. Attention je ne juge pas. Chacun voit midi à sa porte. Moi je préfère voir la vôtre de loin,profiter de leurs artistes si doués et si beaux, profiter de leur dramas et c'est tout . Ce n'est pas réducteur mais nous avons aussi des problèmes de violence d'un autre ordre et n'avons de leçon à donner à personne. Le taux de suicide des jeunes est élevé aussi dans notre pays et les pays européens. C'est triste des sociétés qui abandonnent leurs jeunes et ne leur donnent aucun espoir.
Merci à vous deux pour vos vidéos éclairantes et si intéressantes.Bravo
Thank you for sharing your opinion on this. Yes, we should be able to keep the safe distance and respect the artists as another human being.
Wow! Wow! I'm seriously intrigued now. I not a super fan of any Korean celebrity. However, I do admire work by several artists.
I do personally find this fandom to be an insane level. I don't understand why these people do not have respect for another person's privacy and personal choices. Especially who they wanna date and marry. It is probably why my favourite actors are still single. Really sad.
thanks for watching and yes, their privacy should be respected indeed.
Thanks for the insights! Keep the good work going :)
Thank you!
Thanks for the content Sean & Jin!
wow, thank you so much for your support!
sean is so funny !! kicking the door hahah
yes, a part from the Black Pink's song :)
What was really funny was the look on JIn's face then and again later when Sean sang. 😁
Hahaha yes!!:)
You both are doing a very good job and have a special UA-cam ability. You should feel very proud. I'm pretty sure you will succeed if you keep going. I'm a Korean American rooting for you! Thank you for quitting the normal stressful life in Korea.
thank you!
Interesting information and it is fascinating to see how popular globally K-Pop and Korean culture has become since I left Korea in 2014. I do miss the Korean movies of the early 2000s though. I know they were not the globally recognized movies of today, but there was something special and unique about the films like 달콤한 인생, 봄 여름 가을 겨울 그리고 봄, and 친구. I like to think those movies and Korean culture showcase during the 2002 World Cup helped open the world's eye to just how unique and special Korean culture is from the food, language, movies, music, and language. On a side note: my favourite Korean musical group is 크라잉넛! Haha - they always look like they're having so much fun performing!
Absolutely, K-pop is taking the world by storm!
1st I want to tell y’all are a lovely couple, so cute 😊
Thank you for the content you provide. No matter the discussion, each episode is so informative & interesting.
I’ve been a K-Drama fan for 5 years & I am so heartbroken at times when the actors I love to watch are treated terribly. It is almost like the general public has control over their lives & to me it is so wrong.
For any artist, whether actors or singers, they should be able to date, marry, have children & enjoy the lives they’ve made for themselves, but unfortunately the fanbase controls this.
Until something changes in respect to our favorite artists lives, the bad behavior will continue. I just wish every aspect of cancel culture would go away, we’d be so much better off if it did. Sadly love turns to hate & driven by a force unlike anything I’ve ever seen.
Thank you for always giving the best information in each episode. I think you’ve got a pretty good fan base & it can only grow.
Take care & may you both be blessed ❤
Thank you for your lovely compliment! I am experiencing what an intense fandom is really like in a bad way for this very episode.. Stay tuned for my upcoming videos:)
@@abitdifferentkoreans Thank you for your reply. I am so sorry you both are experiencing negative backlash but this too shall pass. Stay strong & all will be well. I look forward to the next episode.
Oh, I have a quick question. I have a fish, shellfish & soy allergy & cannot try traditional kimchi. When I visit S Korea, in the spring, is there a version of kimchi that is made without fish sauce?
Many thanks & blessings to you both. 😊
@@Linda_Ann-ex9cm thank you for your encouraging words! As for Kimchi, yes, most Kimchi contain 'jeotgal', a fish sauce, so go for either vegan Kimchi or 'baekgimchi'(white Kimchi)
@@abitdifferentkoreans Thank you so very much, I appreciate knowing which to choose now. 😊
Thanks for this video its good to discuss both the pros and cons of the entertainment industry. I do find Korea's obsessive fandom hard to grasp at times and in particular the media in the incident of Parasite actor Lee Sun Kyun which was tragic. In Ireland, which has produced world top music groups, singers and actors we have a culture where they can freely walk the streets without being harassed. It is also in our society if a "celebrity" gets too over-confident and cocky they would be put down very quickly by their own people. We don't hold these people on pedestals but are proud when Ireland is on centre stage globally from a country perspective. I grew up with boy bands eg, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, New Kids on the Block and even Bros in the 80s so can understand the hype with eg, BTS. Thankfully they were allowed to lead some sort of normal life due to the non-existence of social media and cameras everywhere!!! Keep up the work.
Thank you for sharing your insight on this. Yes, as much as I value the success of k-pop, this unhealthy fandom behavior has to change for sure.
BTS are totally different from other boybands...they aren't popular because of that, there are more deep reasons, one of them is their lyricism and genuine and sincere attitudes....they don't even act as idols, and we don't see them like that, they are just humans for us who can also make mistakes but they have proved for over a decade that they are good and decent humans so this kind of incident doesn't make even a dent into their careers in our eyes..the issue is with the K-media that spreads fake news and twists the narrative to bully these celebrities....their Korean fans aren't against them as well, there were proof that the ones who sent the trucks were fans of other groups who are antis (we already know a lot of companies an groups were waiting for the military enlistment so that BTS popularity faded out but it didn't happen so they are trying this route now)...the media even has proof that it wasn't Army but they keep reporting it as such.....we are literally tired of this witch-hunt and can't even imagine how suga night be feeling right now
É realmente complicado entender tantas diferenças culturais, mas quando vocês trazem o contexto cultural isso facilita o nosso entendimento. Obrigada por serem tão didáticos. E sobre a obsessão dos fãs coreanos, vocês acreditam que isso tem mais haver com o que as empresas fazem com os seus ídolos os colocando como um produto e deixando a entender que os fãs são proprietários dessas pessoas ou com o fato das pessoas estarem carentes e/ou não cuidarem da saúde mental? Agradeço pelos ótimos conteúdos! E sucesso com o canal! Sou do Brasil! **
thanks for your interest in our content. Yes, management company has indeed commercialized stars like products and maximize profits out of fans. In return, fans ask for such demanding standards.
It was much easier to listen to you :) thanks for not using the backgrounds while talking.
It is very scary how obsessive some Korean fans can be. I have seen some of those scenarios In Kdramas. Very frightening.
Thanks for watching as always:)
Very true information Sean. It very addictive to the new fans now 😢
thanks for watching and your interest~
Donc les star de k pop ou k drama sont comme des marionnettes aux mains de leurs fan, c est une situation malsaine de ne plus pouvoir être libre de ses choix surtout en matière d'amour ou autre . J'aii été très très grande fan voir in love de mon chanteur préféré " Prince" je voulais tout connaître de sa vie et être témoin de son bonheur car c'était une personne à part entière incluant ses amours ou ses enfants etc ...on devrait tous être heureux pour eux de leur épanouissement personnel dans leur vie privée.
Les fans coréens sont plutôt toxiques enfin pas tous j'espere mais quand même ils me choque et m'attriste surtout quand ça finit pour des suicides
Les stars ne nous appartiennent pas ne l oublions pas ces leurs engagements dans ce qu ils savent faire de mieux qui devraient nous faire interagir.
Bless, Guidance and Lovah ❤
Yes, fully agreed. We as fans should respect the stars and keep the healthy distance indeed.
Thank you very much for this show. It was revealing. Of course, I still find the extreme behavior of fans immature, but I can understand how the problem arises... The most impressive thing is that even after years, the fans do not forgive...
Also, at some point, I would like to hear your opinion on the treatment of women in South Korea in general. Unfortunately, I have read that the position of women became unfavorable after Gorio and until today. Thanks for the response.
Thanks for your comment. Yes, gender issue will be covered in my later video, so stay tuned:)
محتوي جميل جدا ورائع شكرا 😊😊😊😊
thank you!
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By coincidence I am just finishing watching, "So I Married an Anti-Fan," which seems to reflect the sometimes overly extreme ardency of Korean fans. I often wondered why K celebrities are so secretive about their dating lives and this explains it. It truly is unfortunate and a dark downside of being a celebrity. They deserve to be able to date/marry whomever they chose without interference or extreme scrutiny, to make mistakes, and to receive forgiveness. As my father used to say, like everyone else, celebrities put their pants on one leg at a time. Great channel!
Thank you for watching. Glad it was helpful~
Wow, after watching the video and reading the comments all I can say is that Korean people seem to be so lonely in their minds - would you dedicate your precious time to someone you do not even know personally?
Logically you should care the most about your family and friends but here the whole "fandom" thing goes waaay beyond reasonable behaviour.
Who cares what Suga said about what he did? That's on him and his conscience.
He's a regular human being just like any other with his ups and downs in life and moments of fear and confidence.
Leave the man alone and let him take care of his deeds.
And it would be really wise for all the fans to take care of their own lives instead of following someone else's.
And if any of you misinterpret what I've written here that simply indicates that you are totally unaware of yourself and your emotions.
Stay healthy, stay happy - and follow your life not a fictional relationship with someone from a silver screen on top charts!
Value yourself!❤
yes, fully agreed!
Very Nice information brother and sister
Thanks for watching:)
When there are few economic opportunities, the people will create economic opportunities.
yes, indeed~
Im not too familiar with K Pop but I have noticed in some K dramas like Record of Youth where the fans so easily turn on the Star and wondered if things like that also happen in real life. Now I know. Thanks Sean and Jin for an interesting and informative video ❤😊
Thanks for your watching and your comment!
This can be a good or bad thing for the idol or actress or actors because I believe fan end up acting like they a in control of theses people life. One problem saying who they can date and if they make a mistake the fans a very unforgiving which I believe is wrong that is the reason it is not a good thing to idolize anyone.
Yes, that's right. Fans should keep the healthy distance~
In the case of suga the fans aren't even against him it's the media twisting the facts in purpose, and even in Lee sun kyung case, the media were the culprits...I think the focus should be put more on the yellow press and all their fake news rather than on the fans... because most of these ppl had and still have ppl who support them but the thing that makes them lose hope is the smear campaigns and witch-hunt by the media that ends up manipulating public opinion
Your wife, Jin, is beautiful.
thank you!
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Unfortunately for Korean haters, BTS does not owe anything to them as they become popular by international fans. It is the international army’s that supported BTS through and through. We ARMYs are not easily swayed by Suga’s mishap as we are human and subjected to failure. Those haters are definitely not perfect both in words and actions. We don’t demand BTS to be perfect as we aren’t.
By the way, congratulations on your channel. I accidentally stumble on your channel and I like it very much. Now I am one of those who follow you. Your channel is very mature and very insightful. Viewers got to learn new from you. Well done and keep it up!
Yes fully agree and thank you for your interest and support!
Слава богу, я абсолютно безопасна для своего любимого Чжи Чан Ука, так как мне 65 лет и живу я далеко. Ха-ха.
You're Ji Chang Wook fan! I understand that he's got huge fandom abroad~
@@abitdifferentkoreans Да. Я из Израиля. Вот не сплю и смотрю "Императрицу Ки" уже в 5й раз. Ха-ха. С нее началась любовь к драмам.
about UA-camrs, it doesn't just happen in Korea..the same thing also happens in Indonesia..if a foreign UA-camr makes a video about Indonesia..they suddenly become popular like celebrities
I should go and make one then:)
Sean, real friendly advice. You obviously speak English well and better than Jin but you should really have Jin talk more and express her thoughts, even if she has trouble with English. I'm pretty sure it will help grow your channel and improve her confidence.
Thanks for your comment! Jin is actually pretty shy and it took a while actually for me to convince her to appear on our channel and speak:) She'll speak more going forward~
@@abitdifferentkoreansI really like the natural and comfortable dynamic you both have and hope you will both trust yourselves above any pressures you get from comments like these. I will point out that a lot of people watching your videos are also huge Kdrama fans that are all in Korean and we watch them all with subtitles so at least for me…. I really like the combination of English + Korean in your videos so I hope you and she don’t feel any pressure to have everything in English. 🙂
Thank you for your understanding and kind words:)
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as always, thanks for watching:)
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i've noticed these behaviours before, whether positive or negative. i've especially wondered why an artist like iu needs a bodyguard. could it be that management uses the emotional connection of fans to keep the business profitable?
thanks for your interest as always~ In case of IU, she literally needs bodyguards around her, as fans come onto her. Many k-pop idols accompany bodyguards in fact, even male stars~
I believe Taylor Swift and Beyoncé in the US have similar committed fandoms but perhaps without the toxic downsides. Taylor Swift fans are called Swifties and Beyoncé’s fans are called BeyHive. It’s interesting you picked up on Nick K’s recent sudden rise in popularity on UA-cam. I was one of those who recently found him as I like watching Korea travel videos.
On the topic of tragic consequences of Korean fandom, do you have any comments or insights on how that phenomena related to the suicide of Parasite actor Lee Sun-Kyun ?
As you mentioned, fandoms of U.S.-based stars are generally healthier because fans aren’t overly invested in their idols. In the case of Lee Sun-kyun’s suicide, it was primarily driven by his involvement with drugs and affairs, along with intense social pressure. As I explained in this video, the fandom that once supported him quickly turned into harsh criticism, which likely added to the pressure he faced.
@abitdifferentkoreans yes US-based and other Countries fandoms are not as devoted as with K-Pops fandoms. Fans don't spend so much money for their Idols like K-Pop fans almost spend as much as they can for their idols. For me that is very sickening already. The idols have more money than the fans doing the works for them. CRAZY mentality.
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thanks!
I remember thier interviews in tv show....international army who made them popular around the world....so thats means mostly korean they are not supporting bts...because i think they not handsome, tall, masculado...
I t hink it is all overated and just not very good for lives of the young artists. You did not mention Mukbangers (lot of them are from Korea ) and have millions of fans. This is also something which is too much. Thank you for your hard work. Keep well. Cheers
Thanks for your words!