I jumped off the cliff. I was shooting 425 grains with double bevel. Read Ashby's report. Researched all the information that I could find. Ordered Ranch Fairy test kit from Sirius Archery. Bow shot perfect with 550 grains and 750 grains. I knew I wanted to be 650 or above. Made the switch from 425 grains to 750 grains with single bevel. Absolutely love the results. Hitting the shoulder has never worried me since. Full pass through in the scapula bone, top of heart, and out through the humorous bone on the opposite side, arrow sticking in the ground. Deer went 15 yards, done. I aim for the heart. I don't aim to avoid bone/shoulder. I shoot 70#, 28 1/2" arrow 200 spine (Vulcan from Sirius Archery), and 200 grain Samuri single bevel from GrizzlyStik. Don't be afraid to try new things. You can always switch back if you do not like the results.
Plain and simple, Troy knows what he's talking about. And when it comes down to arrows and broadheads, and taking shots, he, like me, likes to get way down into the weeds and into the specifics of things. But most of all, he is willing to pass on the things he knows and has learned to others. Keep up the great work Troy!!!
I don't believe I have all the answers, but I always go by what I believe Fred Bear said long ago...10 grains of arrow weight per pound of bow weight, then do the f8ne tuning
Yeah Troy mentions that all the time. I'm a Trad guy, too. 8.5 gpp grains per pound is insanely light to most recurve and longbow hunters. I saw lots of guys shooting 12 gpp many many years ago. There was a study in Texas many, many years ago where traditional bowhunters were shown to shoot shorter shots, kill fewer deer, but also wound less deer, track them shorter distances, recover them more often, and require fewer follow up shots. And that's probably why. Short shot distances are great, But the trad guys were shooting heavy arrows and two blade broadheads, That they sharpened themselves with great care. Et cetera.
Hey!!! Bear Archery G,ville FL!! Is Willie Kendrick still working there?!? LOL He’s one of my best friends and he started working there when I moved here to TN. I loved visiting the Bear Archery Museum and had to take every hunting buddy that would come to town for a visit. Cool place!
Yes it is. Visited many many moons ago when heavy arrows and heavy broadheads were the only thing to shoot. I’m still shooting them, never stopped. Still have aluminum arrows from high school.
Bear needs to reintroduce the Bear razor broad head . Never had a problem with pass through with a recurve . The point of bow hunting is to get close ,less than 20yrds and know when to pass on an animal.
I've been watching the Ranch Fairy for a little while now. I've been going through his videos and absorbing as much knowledge as I can. I would absolutely love to go down to Texas to pick at his brain for a couple days. And do some hog huntin' for sure. I'm one of those that are just testing the Fairy dust. I haven't committed completely, but I have went to a stiffer arrow and more weight up front. I went from 100gr broadheads and stock 12gr inserts to 125gr broadheads and 50gr inserts. I'm thinking of going to 100gr inserts and get his test kit to see what weight tip will be the straightest flying arrow. Awesome interview.
I can vouch for Troy with big boar hogs and a bow. You are not getting through them and finding them on a consistent basis with regular deer stuff. When you are 20' plus in a tree it is even worse. I have experienced it many times. My neighbor is a world traveled trophy hunter. He has the grand slam of sheep and a book animal of every sort in North America. He said there is nothing on this continent even close to as hard to get through as a large male pig.
Man especially for their size. I mean obviously it's probably harder to penetrate a rhino, but I swear a 200 pound pig is as hard to kill as an elk 4x as big. Easily.
Heel pressure tips the bow, and higher FOC makes the nock high because the back end is moved more easily. Nock high means your nock travel is out of whack.
When shooting your recurve 3 under are you hooking the string right under the arrow or are you string walking? If string walking use double knock points above and below knock.
Speaking of record fish. My dad caught a Jack Crevalle in Florida that we weighed at 32 pounds before we released it. Turns out it would have been the world record in the early 90’s, but we had no idea because all the ones we were hooking were in that class.
Fixed my recurve right left tuned but still nock high by bumping the shelf up a bit. I believe it becomes a tiller issue with more foc for some reason.
I stated this poorly. I was having to set my nock very high to get good flight, 3/4 inch plus. By raising the shelf a bit with Velcro the arrow became more level when nocked and flew great.
I'm probably wrong but I do disagree with troy on two things. But I also know i'm just dragging my feet. I loves Zwickies, I just wished that they would use harder steel. I know damn well I can sharpen harder broadheads than swicky's with a file. On the same note, I find it really irritating that Mike Sohn won't go back to making traditional broadheads. His glue on magnus heads were the bomb. And second, I'm still weird about stropping and polishing heads. I can sharpen very hard steel with a fine file and hit it with a four hundred grit diamonds stone. I guess deer and elk are just not as dirty as pigs, though. Those are my last hold outs and i'm probably wrong.
Howdy, One question that I have: If you're always planning for plan B, why would you not sharpen the backside of the Ranch fairy broadheads? That way if the arrow doesn't pass through for some reason, it could continue to cut while backing out, which could increase blood trails. Thanks for considering,
Great interview! Trey is such a knowledgeable and COOL dude! Pet peeve tho, the delay or whatever was happening, that messed with the continuity of the conversation! LOL Kinda like talking on the phone with a echo or delay! I just hate that, like I said, pet peeve and nitpicky
It’s a pain in the ass that a lot of our local archery shops will fight us tooth and nail on this philosophy. I believe in the work and data that Troy has preserved. The only time I hear anything bad about the ranch fairy is from people that work at or own archery shops. 😂
people need to see which way their arrows are clocking...mark the shaft, shoot bareshaft from 5ish yards away and see what side the mark you made on the arrow is...flech that direction...most clock left so left fletch (helical, feather, whatever) same with broadhead bevel should be left bevel
I’m fairly new to archery and new to building arrows. Just bought a set of the Bear Razorhead single bevels. Haven’t shot them yet, but straight out of the package they are very dull, can’t even start a cut on paper at all. Also they have a crazy amount of wobble. Tested them on my straightest arrow, all my other broadheads spin dead straight, all 3 of the Bears in the package have a ton of wobble on the tip. This doesn’t seem normal, but I’m kinda new to all this so enlighten me if I just don’t know what I’m talking about or are these just cheap poorly china made single bevels?
I shoot a old Shakespeare nedceda 45pound left hand recurve from the Mid 1970s what arrow should I start with. I have killed whitetail with both cedar arrows bear 2blade razors and aluminum arrows muzzy 125 or satalite 125 broadhead. and both done the job out to 25 yds but do notice the arrows bend in flight
I would be curious to know if you would take a heavy arrow 650gr with a 3 blade with poor mechanical advantage in design, shaft larger than ferrule less than perfect flight, or a light arrow 450gr grizzly single bevel, shaft more narrow than ferrule, and perfect arrow flight? I'm just trying to get an idea on how the TPI would compare? In both cases assume razor sharp blades.
Yeah that's well covered in the Ashby report. Arrow flight and structural integrity FIRST. Everything else is very mportant but follows after. One of the things people need to realize is that if you take the 12 factors that affect arrow penetration and lethality, Getting all twelve into an aerosystem is great! But, you might just add one or two and you'll see results. A lot of guys go from 450 to 500 grains (which is really not that much change) by going to a 125 gr fixed blade and a brass insert. They re-tune the bow, and that is all istakes to make a noticeable difference. My buddy did that on his elk set up. Went to 125 slick tricks and slightly stiffer spine. His next bull he just crowded the shoulder and watched him drop.
I shoot a Halon 5 and they spun left bare shaft and I left helical did my fletchings with an Arizona EZ fletch. I heard it’s cause by the strings and that lots of bows will shoot a left spin.
Hey even though you tuned your left and right by adding weight up front but now you shooting way high knock ! Then you need a weaker arrow and reduce your weight forward . I remember asking Troy that same question about why is my arrow taking a nose dive are 15 yards ! Troy honestly told be the same answer he gave you ??! I think and mind you I only think it’s too much waiting up front will cause a Nick high result!! My answer is a slightly stiffer arrow with less weight up front ?
bow season coming next month and a great interview with plenty of food for thought. serious eye problems forced me to give up hunting with vertical bows, but have hunted now for several years with crossbows as magnified optics at least allow me to keep hunting. listening to you guys made me wish i could still take up my bear magnum recurve from the 1970's and go to the woods....it was so satisfying to kill a deer with it and the other stickbows i had from various makers!!!!
I'm snortin the F.D. here, but I was sittin in my tree stand waiting for Mr Big this evening thinking about this video. There was one section where you talked about "why a light arrow setup hits in the same spot as a heavy one". The answer given was that *the bow was more efficient at imparting energy into the arrow, because the weight increased.* I agree the efficiency of the bow will increase with arrow weight, BUT!!! Strictly speaking about trajectory, a faster (lighter) arrow will shoot flatter than slower (heavier) one out of the same bow. Netwon has a bunch of cool laws... so does Albert Einstein with the theory of general relativity and the equivalence principle. Back to real world. My xbow shoots a 436gr arrow 331fps, and a 636gr arrow at 284fps. The light arrow is still going over 300fps at 70 yards. So it would be impossible for the light arrow to be dropping at the same rate as the heavy arrow, because it reached the target faster and has had less time for gravity to effect it. I have to aim 7" higher with the heavy arrow to hit where the light arrow does at 40yds. If it is true that in your case the two arrow weights hit the same, then there is some other factor that is causing it. Maybe the monkey, maybe the bow, maybe the aerodynamics. This cannot be explained by the heavy arrow being more efficient out of the bow, cause in the example I showed above the light arrow never even drops to the the "muzzle" velocity of the heavy arrow at 70 yards.
I can understand why maybe western hunters don’t get down with this stuff because of the long distance and time to target they’re taking game. But Midwest, Eastern or south eastern hunters shooting at 30 and in it makes a ton of sense.
I'm shooting a rather heavy arrow high foc as well that out of my recurves all 3 of them I end up tail high I think I'm at 758grains and 29in arrows 220 inserts and 200 grain heads
@brodystuart9944 Do you have nock points installed? What's the fitment like with the nock in relation to the string? Do you shoot split fingers or three under?
@par1013 yeah I have knock points installed it's a bit over half inch above center of the rest at the moment I can put the arrow above the knock point and slide it up another 3/16ths or so and stay knock high when I shoot I'm kind of at a loss
People talk about the difference in the toughness of the animals, but if I can pass through a tougher animal like a pig, or elk, that tells me white-tailed deer are no issue. Unlike a rifle arrows don't cause as much meat damage. So why not arrow up for ethics.
I've watched ranch fairy for years and just heard him say wife. I just assumed he was gay. Ranch Fairy. .... always thought - "he sure doesn't act gay" :D. Okay, so why's he always wearing that visor... :D
The new bear razor heads are trash. They are so dull out of the package but what do you expect with something made in China. Wish I would have gotten a different brand
@@stevepauley2437 so you think it's ok to sell dull knives and broadheads? I'm a professional butcher and I hate having to take them out of the box and sharpen them....broadheads too
@@briangillman735 after you use them you have to sharpen them also. You think they should come razor sharp and stay that way for a lifetime? Just because a broadhead isn’t as sharp as could be, out of the package, doesn’t mean it’s “trash”, like the original comment said.
I jumped off the cliff. I was shooting 425 grains with double bevel. Read Ashby's report. Researched all the information that I could find. Ordered Ranch Fairy test kit from Sirius Archery. Bow shot perfect with 550 grains and 750 grains. I knew I wanted to be 650 or above. Made the switch from 425 grains to 750 grains with single bevel. Absolutely love the results. Hitting the shoulder has never worried me since. Full pass through in the scapula bone, top of heart, and out through the humorous bone on the opposite side, arrow sticking in the ground. Deer went 15 yards, done. I aim for the heart. I don't aim to avoid bone/shoulder. I shoot 70#, 28 1/2" arrow 200 spine (Vulcan from Sirius Archery), and 200 grain Samuri single bevel from GrizzlyStik. Don't be afraid to try new things. You can always switch back if you do not like the results.
After several failed recoveries, I started using the Ashby system and now currently a 100% recovery rate.
It’s real who came up with the right fletch BS
Plain and simple, Troy knows what he's talking about. And when it comes down to arrows and broadheads, and taking shots, he, like me, likes to get way down into the weeds and into the specifics of things. But most of all, he is willing to pass on the things he knows and has learned to others. Keep up the great work Troy!!!
I would just like to say thank you both for a brilliant video. Very well explained for the ordinary person.
I don't believe I have all the answers, but I always go by what I believe Fred Bear said long ago...10 grains of arrow weight per pound of bow weight, then do the f8ne tuning
Yeah Troy mentions that all the time. I'm a Trad guy, too. 8.5 gpp grains per pound is insanely light to most recurve and longbow hunters. I saw lots of guys shooting 12 gpp many many years ago.
There was a study in Texas many, many years ago where traditional bowhunters were shown to shoot shorter shots, kill fewer deer, but also wound less deer, track them shorter distances, recover them more often, and require fewer follow up shots.
And that's probably why. Short shot distances are great, But the trad guys were shooting heavy arrows and two blade broadheads, That they sharpened themselves with great care. Et cetera.
Hey!!! Bear Archery G,ville FL!! Is Willie Kendrick still working there?!? LOL He’s one of my best friends and he started working there when I moved here to TN.
I loved visiting the Bear Archery Museum and had to take every hunting buddy that would come to town for a visit. Cool place!
Yes it is. Visited many many moons ago when heavy arrows and heavy broadheads were the only thing to shoot.
I’m still shooting them, never stopped. Still have aluminum arrows from high school.
Bear needs to reintroduce the Bear razor broad head . Never had a problem with pass through with a recurve . The point of bow hunting is to get close ,less than 20yrds and know when to pass on an animal.
Boooom! Thank you for that truth bomb. Spoken like someone who has lived a few years and remembers what heavy gear was like.
Not realistic in all cases.
And Feathers have 300 % more drag than vanes, to help stabilize the arrow.
I've learned so much from Troy. Love the Ranch Fairy!
I've been watching the Ranch Fairy for a little while now. I've been going through his videos and absorbing as much knowledge as I can. I would absolutely love to go down to Texas to pick at his brain for a couple days. And do some hog huntin' for sure. I'm one of those that are just testing the Fairy dust. I haven't committed completely, but I have went to a stiffer arrow and more weight up front. I went from 100gr broadheads and stock 12gr inserts to 125gr broadheads and 50gr inserts. I'm thinking of going to 100gr inserts and get his test kit to see what weight tip will be the straightest flying arrow. Awesome interview.
I can vouch for Troy with big boar hogs and a bow. You are not getting through them and finding them on a consistent basis with regular deer stuff. When you are 20' plus in a tree it is even worse. I have experienced it many times. My neighbor is a world traveled trophy hunter. He has the grand slam of sheep and a book animal of every sort in North America. He said there is nothing on this continent even close to as hard to get through as a large male pig.
Man especially for their size. I mean obviously it's probably harder to penetrate a rhino, but I swear a 200 pound pig is as hard to kill as an elk 4x as big. Easily.
Excellent video Thank you
Heel pressure tips the bow, and higher FOC makes the nock high because the back end is moved more easily. Nock high means your nock travel is out of whack.
When shooting your recurve 3 under are you hooking the string right under the arrow or are you string walking? If string walking use double knock points above and below knock.
Speaking of record fish. My dad caught a Jack Crevalle in Florida that we weighed at 32 pounds before we released it. Turns out it would have been the world record in the early 90’s, but we had no idea because all the ones we were hooking were in that class.
Fixed my recurve right left tuned but still nock high by bumping the shelf up a bit. I believe it becomes a tiller issue with more foc for some reason.
Lower your nock point instead of raising it and see if that will cure your nock high. That's what I have to do with my trad bows
I stated this poorly. I was having to set my nock very high to get good flight, 3/4 inch plus. By raising the shelf a bit with Velcro the arrow became more level when nocked and flew great.
I'm probably wrong but I do disagree with troy on two things. But I also know i'm just dragging my feet.
I loves Zwickies, I just wished that they would use harder steel. I know damn well I can sharpen harder broadheads than swicky's with a file.
On the same note, I find it really irritating that Mike Sohn won't go back to making traditional broadheads. His glue on magnus heads were the bomb.
And second, I'm still weird about stropping and polishing heads. I can sharpen very hard steel with a fine file and hit it with a four hundred grit diamonds stone. I guess deer and elk are just not as dirty as pigs, though.
Those are my last hold outs and i'm probably wrong.
For the recurve lower the nock point don't raise it. It has helped me get the nock high out of my 38% foc arrows with my trad bows
Anyone have a timestamp if they talk about the razorhead broadheadd??? I'm looking into trying them out.
Howdy, One question that I have: If you're always planning for plan B, why would you not sharpen the backside of the Ranch fairy broadheads? That way if the arrow doesn't pass through for some reason, it could continue to cut while backing out, which could increase blood trails.
Thanks for considering,
I sharpen the opposite side of my fletching……real feathers . Takes care of plan B.
Great interview! Trey is such a knowledgeable and COOL dude!
Pet peeve tho, the delay or whatever was happening, that messed with the continuity of the conversation! LOL Kinda like talking on the phone with a echo or delay! I just hate that, like I said, pet peeve and nitpicky
It’s a pain in the ass that a lot of our local archery shops will fight us tooth and nail on this philosophy. I believe in the work and data that Troy has preserved. The only time I hear anything bad about the ranch fairy is from people that work at or own archery shops. 😂
The people that are the problem! I had the same problem....now I have to drive 2 hours to the nearest GOOD bow shop!
people need to see which way their arrows are clocking...mark the shaft, shoot bareshaft from 5ish yards away and see what side the mark you made on the arrow is...flech that direction...most clock left so left fletch (helical, feather, whatever) same with broadhead bevel should be left bevel
I’m fairly new to archery and new to building arrows. Just bought a set of the Bear Razorhead single bevels. Haven’t shot them yet, but straight out of the package they are very dull, can’t even start a cut on paper at all. Also they have a crazy amount of wobble. Tested them on my straightest arrow, all my other broadheads spin dead straight, all 3 of the Bears in the package have a ton of wobble on the tip. This doesn’t seem normal, but I’m kinda new to all this so enlighten me if I just don’t know what I’m talking about or are these just cheap poorly china made single bevels?
They might be too heavy for your arrows. Get a hold of Troy. He answered my email very quickly
Your right about the coues deer it sucks for us Arizona people it was the best kept secret I was drawn 12 yrs in a row now 1 for 3 the last 3 yrs
I shoot a old Shakespeare nedceda 45pound left hand recurve from the Mid 1970s what arrow should I start with. I have killed whitetail with both cedar arrows bear 2blade razors and aluminum arrows muzzy 125 or satalite 125 broadhead. and both done the job out to 25 yds but do notice the arrows bend in flight
I would be curious to know if you would take a heavy arrow 650gr with a 3 blade with poor mechanical advantage in design, shaft larger than ferrule less than perfect flight, or a light arrow 450gr grizzly single bevel, shaft more narrow than ferrule, and perfect arrow flight? I'm just trying to get an idea on how the TPI would compare? In both cases assume razor sharp blades.
Structural integrity and perfect arrow flight are the two most important factors
Yeah that's well covered in the Ashby report. Arrow flight and structural integrity FIRST.
Everything else is very mportant but follows after.
One of the things people need to realize is that if you take the 12 factors that affect arrow penetration and lethality, Getting all twelve into an aerosystem is great! But, you might just add one or two and you'll see results.
A lot of guys go from 450 to 500 grains (which is really not that much change) by going to a 125 gr fixed blade and a brass insert.
They re-tune the bow, and that is all istakes to make a noticeable difference.
My buddy did that on his elk set up. Went to 125 slick tricks and slightly stiffer spine. His next bull he just crowded the shoulder and watched him drop.
The arrow rotation off the bow is mostly determined by which direction your bow strings are twisted.
I jumped off the ship heads first and never looked back
so what arrow set up for rabbit then ?
400 spine with a 100 grain Grim reaper razor head ....perfect arrow for a rabbit!
I shoot a Halon 5 and they spun left bare shaft and I left helical did my fletchings with an Arizona EZ fletch. I heard it’s cause by the strings and that lots of bows will shoot a left spin.
Positive tiller maybe will solve the nock high
You have to match the fletch for single bevels.
Jesus Christ loves the Ranch Fairy
Heck ya 4 fletch feathers will fly about any broadhead near perfect. Heck 4 fletch feathers will fly 200 grain Snuffers.
Hey even though you tuned your left and right by adding weight up front but now you shooting way high knock ! Then you need a weaker arrow and reduce your weight forward . I remember asking Troy that same question about why is my arrow taking a nose dive are 15 yards ! Troy honestly told be the same answer he gave you ??! I think and mind you I only think it’s too much waiting up front will cause a Nick high result!! My answer is a slightly stiffer arrow with less weight up front ?
Guy from idaho here. Bout to go out for fall bear. Always wanted to hog hunt to get some reps in. Any advice on where to go?
Come see us in Texas!
@@AEOutfitters I don't see any hog hunts on your website. What is the deal on pigs?
bow season coming next month and a great interview with plenty of food for thought. serious eye problems forced me to give up hunting with vertical bows, but have hunted now for several years with crossbows as magnified optics at least allow me to keep hunting. listening to you guys made me wish i could still take up my bear magnum recurve from the 1970's and go to the woods....it was so satisfying to kill a deer with it and the other stickbows i had from various makers!!!!
He mentioned Magnus, magnus egineer stated single bevel does not penatrate as well. "Rotation adds a additional vector"
All things equal - maybe. But single bevel 200 vs double 125 ?
I'm snortin the F.D. here, but I was sittin in my tree stand waiting for Mr Big this evening thinking about this video. There was one section where you talked about "why a light arrow setup hits in the same spot as a heavy one". The answer given was that *the bow was more efficient at imparting energy into the arrow, because the weight increased.* I agree the efficiency of the bow will increase with arrow weight, BUT!!! Strictly speaking about trajectory, a faster (lighter) arrow will shoot flatter than slower (heavier) one out of the same bow. Netwon has a bunch of cool laws... so does Albert Einstein with the theory of general relativity and the equivalence principle. Back to real world. My xbow shoots a 436gr arrow 331fps, and a 636gr arrow at 284fps. The light arrow is still going over 300fps at 70 yards. So it would be impossible for the light arrow to be dropping at the same rate as the heavy arrow, because it reached the target faster and has had less time for gravity to effect it. I have to aim 7" higher with the heavy arrow to hit where the light arrow does at 40yds. If it is true that in your case the two arrow weights hit the same, then there is some other factor that is causing it. Maybe the monkey, maybe the bow, maybe the aerodynamics. This cannot be explained by the heavy arrow being more efficient out of the bow, cause in the example I showed above the light arrow never even drops to the the "muzzle" velocity of the heavy arrow at 70 yards.
Speed still = energy
I can understand why maybe western hunters don’t get down with this stuff because of the long distance and time to target they’re taking game. But Midwest, Eastern or south eastern hunters shooting at 30 and in it makes a ton of sense.
I'm shooting a rather heavy arrow high foc as well that out of my recurves all 3 of them I end up tail high I think I'm at 758grains and 29in arrows 220 inserts and 200 grain heads
have you tried raising your knock point?
@par1013 yeah it just takes it up so high past center shit I feel like it's too much
@brodystuart9944 Do you have nock points installed? What's the fitment like with the nock in relation to the string? Do you shoot split fingers or three under?
@par1013 yeah I have knock points installed it's a bit over half inch above center of the rest at the moment I can put the arrow above the knock point and slide it up another 3/16ths or so and stay knock high when I shoot I'm kind of at a loss
@brodystuart9944 What's the fitment of the nock like against the string? Can spin the string freely with the nock snapped it?
Left offset
Imhonsingle bevel can bounce alot.
Brace height not foc
People talk about the difference in the toughness of the animals, but if I can pass through a tougher animal like a pig, or elk, that tells me white-tailed deer are no issue. Unlike a rifle arrows don't cause as much meat damage. So why not arrow up for ethics.
This is the only social media I have and don’t post anything. Think I’m the only 34 yr old without Facebook
Disposal blades wastes metal.
I shot my first bow deer ever with the annihilator and it didn't go 20. Left a huge hole
Under 600 aint heavy
I shoot 26.5". My shots sitting better. Less movement. Don't shave with string or think 30in is only arrow length.
No knock high from foc..your artow is still weak!
I've watched ranch fairy for years and just heard him say wife. I just assumed he was gay. Ranch Fairy. .... always thought - "he sure doesn't act gay" :D. Okay, so why's he always wearing that visor... :D
we need more left single beveled broadheads.
Make the strings go right and add right vanes and a right single bevel. It is easier than trying to find a left.
Lol!
The new bear razor heads are trash. They are so dull out of the package but what do you expect with something made in China. Wish I would have gotten a different brand
Learn to sharpen them.
@stevepauley2437 what happened to getting what you pay for?
@@briangillman735 nothing happened to it. You have to sharpen 9 of 10 broadheads you buy, before using them.
@@stevepauley2437 so you think it's ok to sell dull knives and broadheads? I'm a professional butcher and I hate having to take them out of the box and sharpen them....broadheads too
@@briangillman735 after you use them you have to sharpen them also. You think they should come razor sharp and stay that way for a lifetime? Just because a broadhead isn’t as sharp as could be, out of the package, doesn’t mean it’s “trash”, like the original comment said.
You guys are always trying to sell us something.