As a day one owner of a PSVR2 and also a owner of a PC with a RTX2080TI, this is great news. Just have to pick up a good Bluetooth dongle and I’ll be good to go. Thanks for the tip and the great video?
@@Robert.Lachowski550 You can play any game watching a virtual 2d screen if that's what you mean, but Dreams has a proper virtual reality mode for PSVR 1, they simply didn't even care to upgrade that to PSVR 2.
Mike, keep up the great work. Someone from my era of gaming (started in the late 70s). The type of knowledgeable bloke I could have a couple of pints with and talk games and gaming tech. Tried many times to adapt to VR. From PSVR to Quest and VR2 but I still can't overcome motion issues. I returned PSVR2 but it's a great device...and on PC it would be a no brainer with the titles on that platform.
I hope the sales get a boost so it gets more support for PS5 too. And hopefully Sony will also make some first party titles. Astrobot vr2! And Valve should port Half Life Alyx for PS5!
Only thing that was a hassle was the setup and then SteamVR default the resolution to almost 4000x4000 per eye. My 4080 was crying when I first launched HL:A. Adjusted to 68% which gives full pixel density and played HL:A for about 90 minutes with 0 issues. Looks much better than my Quest 2 and I don't find having a wire a deal breaker. I still have yet to try pancake lenses, so I'll remain ignorant and just daily drive the PSVR2 for PCVR. The colors are really good and even without HDR it gets bright.
Hey, thanks for the information. I'm in a similar situation to what you are except that I have a 4070. I play vrchat about 2-4 times a month. Do you think the upgrade is worth it? Or how does the headset work for my use case?
I was excited when I read that you don't need the adapter for newer AMD cards. But then I learned my particular model doesn't have the port. Not the reference model. So adapter it is. Lucky I managed to order one.
@@sawdust8691 Yes its reference cards only unfortunately, this is probably why Sony have not mentioned that the PSVR2 will actually work properly with Virtual Link Port equipped GPUs, if they had mentioned it, lots of folks would be meaning at them, so they released the adapter that everyone can use.
@@meddlepf Its rare on none reference cards to find the VL port today, maybe the 6000 series extended it to none reference cards as well? I have yet to see an RX7000 series none reference with the port.
Even some of the 7000 AMD cards still have the USB-C port, but by the looks of it mostly the reference cards and the third party manufacturers are excluding them in their versions.
People are getting way too worked up on no eye tracking or head haptics..... When pretty much none of the steamVR games even support it lol. Theres like one game with eye tracking.
I don't believe the PC adapter needs that high of a bandwidth USB3 connection, because the vast majority of the bandwidth being used on the PS5 is the video signal, which is being carried by the displayport cable on the PC adapter. So the USB portion of it will actually only need a very small amount of bandwidth.
My example here was using the virtuallink cable, so all data is going through that in this video. I am testing the adapter currently and have both USB2 and 3 within that to confirm.
@nxgamer I have 2 display ports. Does it matter if I unplug my second monitor and connect it to that port? Will it detect the port the adapter is connected to and load the game into that? Would I have to enable it in NVIDIA as a second display?
Helpful video, I had two 20 series RTX cards back when but only have a 3080 TI and 4090 now so no virtuallink access but the information is valuable nonetheless so I'll be refering people to this video for that aspect of connecting the PSVR2 via this method, cheers!
It would be interesting to see if there is a performance difference between PSVR2 and Quest 3 on the same PC with the same game settings. If you don't have a Quest, then just what kind of performance you can get with PSVR2.
No there wouldn't be performance differences cuz they're both running on the same pc with the same settings. They're would only be features exclusive to one or the other but no performance differences. You'll see the resolution difference between both sets lens but thats not performance, one just has better lens than the other.
@@TheeThunderGod Not exactly 1:1 the same. The headsets run different resolution screens, the higher resolution screens will demand more from your setup. Especially worth considering if someone feels the need to increase the output resolution to remove any screen-door effect, too.
That is incorrect, as the person asking the question stated, the PC needs to compress each and every frame before sending it to the Quest3 this absolutely does add overhead to the performance. Modern encoding techniques have come a long way but there is still an unavoidable overhead. Im still waiting for my PSVR2 adapter so i cannot give exact details for this scenario, but in my tests with the Quest3 vs HP Reverb G2 the performance hit was anywhere between a couple FPS and 20 FPS depending on the game.
You will definitely see a slight performance gain on a direct headset due to not needing to compress every single frame. The PSVR2 will also have zero compression artefacts which will give a massive improvement to graphical fidelity, especially when viewing fine detail at mid-long range. The only benefit the quest3 has is the lens but i think the OLED and compressionless visuals will make up for that
So my controllers got paired to my pc through the psvr2 app my controllers are connected and on but steam vr is saying they're off when they aren't the 2 controller symbols are grayed out 🙄
Upon launching HalfLife Alyx I see the same screen at 7:15 timestamp and nothing happens after that, on launching game loading screen comes and just immidiatly prompt to press trigger flashes and this screen comes. Nothing after that. Please advice some solution.
I got a Strix G17 with an RTX 4070 laptop. It has 2 thunderbolt type c connections, but it doesn't have DP. Before watching this video, I tried connecting my psvr2 to the type c ports and it did not work, I have the psvr2 adapter and will receive a DP to type C cable this Monday, I'm hoping it works otherwise I will have to exchange my laptop for a desktop with DP.
@6638hom It works, but for me only with a DP to type C from cable matters. I had a different name brand cable that did not work. Also, even though it works, it's a pain because most of the time, Steam doesn't detect it, so I have to turn the headset off and on. This is how I get Half-Life Alyx to work.
i have problem with usbc virtual link.. i have rtx 2070 and step by step working on connect psvr2 to pc without adapter ,and playstation app is broken in step to connect headset to usbc.. next step ip app is issue, app dont working. Still info ,pls setup your usbc port.. pls help
I have a 2070 super, but for some reason it wont work on mine. I plug the headset in and won't power on. Headset works fine. I have an Auroa R11 alienware
Mike, please answer my question - is it better than Quest 3 for gaming?? I really want to know this. If yes, please let me know why and if no, please let me know why. Thanks!! I'm deciding between these 2 headsets :PPP
I am working on a full review as noted in the video, but if you are using a PC connection and are happy to have wired, then PSVR2 is the better visual and feature option, largely, over the Metaquest 3. The metaquest 3 USP is the wireless choice which is not an option with PSVR2.
@@xionsolaris it has an OLED screen, not lenses. The lenses are fresnel and that kinda brings down the image quality as you need to find the tiny sweet spot so that the image is not blurry. Quest 3 has pancake lenses that have a much bigger sweet spot and provide a much clearer image, but they have an LCD screen. Sadly OLED screens can't be paired with pancake lenses for some brightness-related reason I'm too ignorant to explain. Solutions that pair OLED screens with better lenses already exist, but they are way too expensive right now.
I am almost sure it is not, as without getting through that section the PSVR2 app will not get to setup game space. Meaning steam VR cannot start and you cannot select anything.
From what im hearing the adapter is having weord issues as well. I think the best thing to do for pc vr is saving up for a vr headset like vive or index. Pricey yes, but worth it. Psvr2 is amazing on ps5 and crystal clear. However, unless they make fixes and fully supoort the adapter, it might just not be worth the trouble truing to use it for pc.
@AbrahamZX1 I uninstall the ivy drivers and got to the room setup but I had no pointers to click next, bought the tplink ub500 and still had the same problem, I ended up uninstalling graphics driver and reinstalled them and now it works. The only issue I have now is the right controller tracking isn't as good as the left.
Yah I payed full price on day 1 and I can't even get one now this is bull... did they have a limit on how many people could buy at a time? Scalping should be banned what so they can sell for 3 times the price wait for the ps5 pro same thing is going to happen but for longer time...
Sold out? Sony is trash. They make these nice products yet sellout day one. Artifical demand. I should be able to order an adapter online on their store no issues. Yet here we are again
As a day one owner of a PSVR2 and also a owner of a PC with a RTX2080TI, this is great news. Just have to pick up a good Bluetooth dongle and I’ll be good to go. Thanks for the tip and the great video?
Found you when you went on Moore's Law Is Dead, hope you have much success, good content and insights
Dreams to PC psvr2 now Sony pls 😅
OMG, that would be amazing. Highly unlikely though :(
Yes yes yes!!!
Sony is not that smart though. Did you know that Dreams doesn't even have PSVR2 support, and it will never receive it?
@@hesidoCan't use psvr2 as monitor?
@@Robert.Lachowski550 You can play any game watching a virtual 2d screen if that's what you mean, but Dreams has a proper virtual reality mode for PSVR 1, they simply didn't even care to upgrade that to PSVR 2.
Mike, keep up the great work. Someone from my era of gaming (started in the late 70s). The type of knowledgeable bloke I could have a couple of pints with and talk games and gaming tech.
Tried many times to adapt to VR. From PSVR to Quest and VR2 but I still can't overcome motion issues. I returned PSVR2 but it's a great device...and on PC it would be a no brainer with the titles on that platform.
I hope the sales get a boost so it gets more support for PS5 too. And hopefully Sony will also make some first party titles. Astrobot vr2! And Valve should port Half Life Alyx for PS5!
Only thing that was a hassle was the setup and then SteamVR default the resolution to almost 4000x4000 per eye. My 4080 was crying when I first launched HL:A. Adjusted to 68% which gives full pixel density and played HL:A for about 90 minutes with 0 issues. Looks much better than my Quest 2 and I don't find having a wire a deal breaker. I still have yet to try pancake lenses, so I'll remain ignorant and just daily drive the PSVR2 for PCVR. The colors are really good and even without HDR it gets bright.
Hey, thanks for the information. I'm in a similar situation to what you are except that I have a 4070. I play vrchat about 2-4 times a month. Do you think the upgrade is worth it? Or how does the headset work for my use case?
Many of the reference AMD RX6900 / RX7900 series GPUs have the virtual link port.
I was excited when I read that you don't need the adapter for newer AMD cards.
But then I learned my particular model doesn't have the port. Not the reference model.
So adapter it is. Lucky I managed to order one.
@@sawdust8691 Yes its reference cards only unfortunately, this is probably why Sony have not mentioned that the PSVR2 will actually work properly with Virtual Link Port equipped GPUs, if they had mentioned it, lots of folks would be meaning at them, so they released the adapter that everyone can use.
@@techinfusions my XFX 6900 XT Zero has the VL port. Definitely not a reference card.
@@meddlepf Its rare on none reference cards to find the VL port today, maybe the 6000 series extended it to none reference cards as well? I have yet to see an RX7000 series none reference with the port.
After 2 days trying to get this to work I'm actually impressed with the quality, looks heaps better than ps5
another great video, detailed and well thought out (unlike most trash on youtube these days) cant wait for the 2nd deep-dive video on the 4090
Even some of the 7000 AMD cards still have the USB-C port, but by the looks of it mostly the reference cards and the third party manufacturers are excluding them in their versions.
You pop up the first time in years
I still got my founders edition 2080ti with a usb c virtual link. But its hard to want to take my 4090 out just to use my PSVR2.
Probably best to wait for the adapters to become a bit more available.
Shared with a friend wanting to do this
People are getting way too worked up on no eye tracking or head haptics..... When pretty much none of the steamVR games even support it lol. Theres like one game with eye tracking.
The bluetooth step cannot be skipped if I plan to use only the headset with racing sims?
I don't believe the PC adapter needs that high of a bandwidth USB3 connection, because the vast majority of the bandwidth being used on the PS5 is the video signal, which is being carried by the displayport cable on the PC adapter. So the USB portion of it will actually only need a very small amount of bandwidth.
My example here was using the virtuallink cable, so all data is going through that in this video. I am testing the adapter currently and have both USB2 and 3 within that to confirm.
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@nxgamer I have 2 display ports. Does it matter if I unplug my second monitor and connect it to that port? Will it detect the port the adapter is connected to and load the game into that? Would I have to enable it in NVIDIA as a second display?
Helpful video, I had two 20 series RTX cards back when but only have a 3080 TI and 4090 now so no virtuallink access but the information is valuable nonetheless so I'll be refering people to this video for that aspect of connecting the PSVR2 via this method, cheers!
It would be interesting to see if there is a performance difference between PSVR2 and Quest 3 on the same PC with the same game settings. If you don't have a Quest, then just what kind of performance you can get with PSVR2.
No there wouldn't be performance differences cuz they're both running on the same pc with the same settings. They're would only be features exclusive to one or the other but no performance differences. You'll see the resolution difference between both sets lens but thats not performance, one just has better lens than the other.
@@TheeThunderGod On quest PC has to compress the video in realtime, so at least a bit of performance difference is present
@@TheeThunderGod Not exactly 1:1 the same. The headsets run different resolution screens, the higher resolution screens will demand more from your setup. Especially worth considering if someone feels the need to increase the output resolution to remove any screen-door effect, too.
That is incorrect, as the person asking the question stated, the PC needs to compress each and every frame before sending it to the Quest3 this absolutely does add overhead to the performance. Modern encoding techniques have come a long way but there is still an unavoidable overhead.
Im still waiting for my PSVR2 adapter so i cannot give exact details for this scenario, but in my tests with the Quest3 vs HP Reverb G2 the performance hit was anywhere between a couple FPS and 20 FPS depending on the game.
You will definitely see a slight performance gain on a direct headset due to not needing to compress every single frame. The PSVR2 will also have zero compression artefacts which will give a massive improvement to graphical fidelity, especially when viewing fine detail at mid-long range. The only benefit the quest3 has is the lens but i think the OLED and compressionless visuals will make up for that
Do you know if it works in the usbc 3.2 gen1 on Motherboard. Maybe it works
You need show us how well runs on best VR racing sims in the next video
I’ve read that usb 2.0 ports work better for having less interference with BT adapters, also using an extension cable.
So my controllers got paired to my pc through the psvr2 app my controllers are connected and on but steam vr is saying they're off when they aren't the 2 controller symbols are grayed out 🙄
So my laptop with RTX 3070ti has a lightning usb-c port but you're saying that won't work right?
Can you point us to a sitevwhere we could watch 3D movies on the PSVR 2 ?!
Upon launching HalfLife Alyx I see the same screen at 7:15 timestamp and nothing happens after that, on launching game loading screen comes and just immidiatly prompt to press trigger flashes and this screen comes. Nothing after that. Please advice some solution.
I got a Strix G17 with an RTX 4070 laptop. It has 2 thunderbolt type c connections, but it doesn't have DP. Before watching this video, I tried connecting my psvr2 to the type c ports and it did not work, I have the psvr2 adapter and will receive a DP to type C cable this Monday, I'm hoping it works otherwise I will have to exchange my laptop for a desktop with DP.
How did it work out? I’m in the same situation.
@6638hom It works, but for me only with a DP to type C from cable matters. I had a different name brand cable that did not work. Also, even though it works, it's a pain because most of the time, Steam doesn't detect it, so I have to turn the headset off and on. This is how I get Half-Life Alyx to work.
What about plugging into the motherboard?
If you have a laptop without a diplay port what can you do?
I think with this update the gpu makers will bring back the type c port in the gpus with their next versions. :)
i have problem with usbc virtual link.. i have rtx 2070 and step by step working on connect psvr2 to pc without adapter ,and playstation app is broken in step to connect headset to usbc.. next step ip app is issue, app dont working. Still info ,pls setup your usbc port.. pls help
I have a 2070 super, but for some reason it wont work on mine. I plug the headset in and won't power on. Headset works fine. I have an Auroa R11 alienware
On laptop its harder to work i guess
Scalpers have cleaned out pc adapters and now most are on ebay and other market areas over charging price
Mike, please answer my question - is it better than Quest 3 for gaming?? I really want to know this. If yes, please let me know why and if no, please let me know why.
Thanks!! I'm deciding between these 2 headsets :PPP
Simple answer if you have a pc to drive it psvr2 headset is better it has oled lenses that's all you need to know
I am working on a full review as noted in the video, but if you are using a PC connection and are happy to have wired, then PSVR2 is the better visual and feature option, largely, over the Metaquest 3. The metaquest 3 USP is the wireless choice which is not an option with PSVR2.
@@xionsolaris it has an OLED screen, not lenses. The lenses are fresnel and that kinda brings down the image quality as you need to find the tiny sweet spot so that the image is not blurry. Quest 3 has pancake lenses that have a much bigger sweet spot and provide a much clearer image, but they have an LCD screen. Sadly OLED screens can't be paired with pancake lenses for some brightness-related reason I'm too ignorant to explain. Solutions that pair OLED screens with better lenses already exist, but they are way too expensive right now.
@@laffinkippah thanks for correcting me and providing some additional info appreciated:)
Correction, My 7900 XT has a USB-C port and the PSVR2 works with it just fine. No need for any adapters.
Hello i have rtx 3060 with a usb c gen 3.2 that support display it connected to my gpu my pc is a laptop it will work ?
So long as the port on the laptop is a VirtualLink port, it will work yes,
do you think its possible to set the psvr2 up on PC without the controllers? i see a lot of them going cheap on FB Marketplace without controllers
I am almost sure it is not, as without getting through that section the PSVR2 app will not get to setup game space. Meaning steam VR cannot start and you cannot select anything.
From what im hearing the adapter is having weord issues as well. I think the best thing to do for pc vr is saving up for a vr headset like vive or index. Pricey yes, but worth it. Psvr2 is amazing on ps5 and crystal clear. However, unless they make fixes and fully supoort the adapter, it might just not be worth the trouble truing to use it for pc.
Tomara que venda bastante 🤑😎
Would a usbc to display port adapter work or does virtual link have a specific protocol.
That will work with the dongle.
Will a rtx 4070 work??
The adapter is in stock everywhere, it was just a bad release from sony
I have a PSVR2 but I think the experience is much better on the PS5 as I have head rumble HDR, foviated rendering and haptic triggers etc
depends what you want visuals and fps will always be better on pc
Everyone should expect performance on PC features on PS5
Yea but psvr2 library sucks.
Naw the asus is the number 1 recommended
Game slow lol. what is your Graphic Card?
the fact that I need to buy an adapter even if I'm not gonna use the controllers....
Plugged mine into my rtx 2070 super and it detects nothing, but it works with ivy vr but that doesn't support the controllers
You need to uninstall the ivy VR drivers for it to work with Sony's drivers.
@AbrahamZX1 I uninstall the ivy drivers and got to the room setup but I had no pointers to click next, bought the tplink ub500 and still had the same problem, I ended up uninstalling graphics driver and reinstalled them and now it works. The only issue I have now is the right controller tracking isn't as good as the left.
I'm beyond upset that the virtual link standard died before it could take off. My bloody 3080 doesn't have it. Fuckin bullshit
Yah I payed full price on day 1 and I can't even get one now this is bull... did they have a limit on how many people could buy at a time? Scalping should be banned what so they can sell for 3 times the price wait for the ps5 pro same thing is going to happen but for longer time...
I'd need a considerably worse PC than I have. I do have the psvr2 but I've barely played it tbh.
4070 uses it on laptop
Perfect, have you tried it on the laptop?
Sold out? Sony is trash. They make these nice products yet sellout day one. Artifical demand. I should be able to order an adapter online on their store no issues. Yet here we are again
But its FKIN WIRED...will stick with my Quest 3 and my other headsets for wirless play....
The power is better from the psvr though you get over the cord very fast
Wireless is shit and always will be.
Indeed but due to the wire you don't get blurry background details due to lossy compression, you also dont get ridiculous 30-50ms latency
Wired>Compressed
This movement is so bad. I don't know if this just your side or psvr2 side.