Debating JF Gariépy - Socialism, Race Realism, & the Transgender Agenda
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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JF was targeted by homosexual reproductive warfare in this debate.
he sucks but I didnt think he was a literal elon musk chud
I still don't understand how JF is fighting a reproductive war with people that can't have kids with eachother.
*Omosezuall
Release the friggin frog cavalry.
state enforced homosexuality
“I can’t believe I’m being called effeminate by a Frenchman.”
Pog
"I have French friends"
Froggies BTFO'd
@Mr Olonzo this is where I'd put the funny gamer man saying "Yes." if I had it on standby
what you have said is not an insult and added literally nothing to the conversation
@Mr Olonzo one word, bears. Gay bears. Bottoms that aren't in any way effiminate.
@Mr Olonzo Taking it up in the butt is nice.
JF's reasons on men being inherently creative:
1. Albert Einstein was a man
2.
3.
@Open Comments Initiative bulletproof reasoning
Wonder if he knows Einstein was a socialist.
@Socialist Sylveon truu
@Socialist Sylveon TERF: NOOOO you can't have a nicer dick than my hubby with more feminine hormone levels than me
Transwoman: yes, I'd like to buy these thigh highs
@Open Comments Initiative They are sex chromosomes not creativity chromosomes, your argument is invalid.
The anti-immigration Frenchman lived in America for 5 years, and considers himself American.
#COMEDY
He's white so it doesn't matter you eeediot.
@@emperortgp2424 LOL
Even better, he was an ILLEGAL immigrant. He entered on a scholar visa and never left when it ended. His visa based on his marriage in the States was pending. But in his mind, if you’re white, it’s okay to be illegal and come to the country to have sex with mentally handicapped teens.
Apparently there’s a warrant out for him in the US so he can’t go back.
plutogirlgenius Thus proving most of these people only hate illegal immigration when non-white people do it, undocumented white immigrants are a-okay because...racism
“The means of production have already been seized”
Yay? We.. did it? Revolution’s over, guys. Pack it up. Good job, co-ops for everyone
Let's crack open some white claws and call it a day.
I think that bit was a language barrier. He likely thought seize as in stop or seize as in it being controlled rather than the context
Ceased vs seized. Yup.
IWP Absentee Yeah that’s what I thought. Honestly it just kinda sounds like they’re talking at cross purposes at that point in the debate.
I heard that and knew it was going to be a long one...
In my town, several homeless people set up a commune in the forest. Then the police came and destroyed it, so the people had to return to the town and continue their lives as beggars.
Alex Dummy that sucks
ACAB
That's the IL-liberal fascist tyranny of the leftist corporatist status quo -- it's wicked. I'm pissed as I am in the same boat as one wanting to build on undeveloped land so as not to be a enslaved to prop up a tyrannical parasitic system of kleptocratic mobocracy. JF had to move to the very cold and remote region of Northern Canada to get a place dirt-cheap enough to live where he does. JF is right that we should all deprive the tyrannical regime of our energy.
@@jasonpk2267 did you say leftist-corporatist? you know left-wingers hate companies right.
@@killtheo8894 Yes, just as all of the left, left-wing "neo-"liberal" corporatists are arch opponents of liberty inconveniencing their parasitism. Although you obscurant ideologues may lack the candour to admit the obvious that extortion intrinsic to FDR's infusion of socialism of the "New Deal" (extolled by Hitler and Mussolini) cannot coexist with bona fide liberty to have an actual free market, without which the bastardized cronyism of Franken-c[R]apitalism and fascist IL-liberalism thrives to fill the void, it’s transparently evident that the extent of you ideologues’ liberal resort to logical fallacies to defend the status quo is matched only by you ideologues’ IL-liberal fascist hostility to actual freedom, inconvenient for parasite ruling classes and their cronies all complicit with the status quo.
"Eeets called love, you eeeediot!"
Beat me to it.
Louvre*
Oh man, that was my introduction to Destiny. lol.
"I USED TO CHAAAIN-FACK 18 YEEEeeR OLDS"
@@coffeepot3123 I am pumping ze bebie inside 'er
Damn, I didn't know we already live in a communist society, the more you know
I mean "Communist Society?"
Smoosh the two words together, what do you get?
Community.
Boom. I have owned everyone in a 5 mile radius with both Facts and (guess what else?) logic.
Commulist*
Dude the right wing are already saying this. My mom believes this pandemic is an exercise in authoritarianism to prepare to implement communism. Like for real. She thinks we will be living under communism this time next year and we are all going to starve.
@@JeevesAnthrozaurUS Senor Chang fought for workers rights this whole time and we never even knew it.
I tried pointing out to her how fascistic her views are becoming and how closely her talking points align with actual fascists and she lost it. She hates Nazis and would make me read about them so I could be a good person lol. She can't see how similar the propaganda she is falling for now is. Maybe the people she listens don't say the need all the time but the fact she believes the left is out to destroy society and she is being convinced that socialism is the cause of her problems is exactly what the Nazis said too. They went for communists and socialists first.
The fact that JF doesn't think emotional abuse is abuse is really telling
I've seen people say that before, and always thought it was a gigantic red flag for someone who's abusive in their personal life. Just like people who rage about cancel culture.
I mean, he's a robot! Hear how he talks!
Lol
Seriously though he's a real trash human being!
@@lylewalker5681
Cancel culture is just a form of political opression.
@@StobnickiPiotr "cancel culture" has always existed, its called "the public wants you to take accountability". But since influencers nowadays are incapable of that, its some _new phenomenon_ that must be stoped.
UED lmao snowflake
It's very sad just how many people don't actually understand what socialism is, and yet vehemently oppose it.
"yo dude, wouldn't life be better for you and your buddies if you collectively owned the factory you worked at rather than having a parasitic owner siphoning off the vast majority of the product of your labour despite never lifting a finger to form the final product?"
"I can't belive yo want everything for free!?????? You can't have my money just because you don't work!!!!!!"
Under the capitalist system we inhabit, those who make the money, don't MAKE the money. This is fundamentally disgusting to me.
yes
DECADES of propoganda comrade
Richard Returns one way I circumnavigate the problem of knee-jerk rejection of the idea is frame it within the context of democracy.
I describe a republic and ask them to describe what kind of government that is, and do the same with an oligarchy. Then I ask them which of those two forms of government a business most resembles, and then say what I want is to make businesses more like a democracy/republic than an oligarchy.
Inevitably you get bullshit excuses like the “business owners took the risks!” argument, but you can handle those by coming back to the comparison (did George Washington deserve to be king because he took a risk?).
Changing the language a bit helps get your foot in the door and circumnavigate knee-jerk reactions.
That argument works both ways...ppl who support socialism do so but dont understand socialism but spew the propaganda without a second thought
Why reactionaries bellyflop at logic 101
“Albert Einstien was a man” is the new “ We live in a society”
Not just a man but a wyte straight man!
@@aceclop He was Jewish though, so if JF had his way he'd get the rope
@@m.f.3347
Tru
ALBERT
WAS
A
MAN
@Mr Olonzo "nazis are moderates" that must be the most supid thing I've ever read.
Imagine someone calling you Nazi adjacent, and your outrage is directed at the word "adjacent"
That struck me too. I wonder if he was trying to catch a sound byte that he can use elsewhere. "See? He called me a nazi! The left is out of control REEEEEEEE!"
😂
That one got my laughing so hard. I liked how Vaush giving that bit of charity to JF's position was somehow effeminate weakness.
"How dare you say I'm not a full on Nazi!"
I like it best way to take power away from you be is not be scared of your terms
Businesses temporarily closed due to deadly pandemic.
Conservative on brain worms: “the means of production have been seized!!!”
He immediately shows that he has no idea what the hell he is talking about and shouldn't be trying to argue these points. I almost gave him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he had a language barrier issue with the word 'seized' being an issue like for something to 'seize up' and not function but then he just pivots to it being communism instead of capitalism and realized he's just full of shit.
Creslin321 yes. The means of production have been seized
By Corona-chan
Yeah its so fucking mind numbing how much these people will reach for bullshit
Creslin321 😂😂😂
Creslin321
The economy is closed.
We did it boys, we’ve achieved communism?
His accent made this way more funnier than it should have been
"Ello Vash"
Dude this specific accent is the accent that drives me nuts when it’s a right winger sounding smug. It’s my biggest pet peeve lol
It's like a terrible Jamaican accent holy shit I can't deal
haha funny foreigner accent
Before you feel bad for making fun of his accent let it be known quebec enforces how french is spoken properly and they regularly make fun of English politicians for their poor ability to speak french meanwhile the entire province speaks english like they got 13 dicks in their mouth
seizing the means of production is when everyone gets fired and there is 100% unemployment
Technically that would be "ceasing", but nonetheless I get the joke, this guy unironically thinks shutdowns from covid is socialism lmao.
Took all but 3 seconds before we got to Race Realism.
Smith Black yep. And cause denies it
@Attila Marics no most scientists deny this...
@Attila Marics I'm sure you have some evidence to back up that claim, yeah?
He has an ultimate research doc which I've read through. You can find it through vaush.gg
@Attila Marics Lol so because you have never seen vaush's evidence you get to make claims and not provide any evidence yourself?
Damn, Vaush got completely owned once JF brought up the Sassy Genes
@mayrana2 Lmao, he probably did his entire thesis on the Sassy Genes
"don't sass me!"
"but it's genetic!"
"at least your sass got you into anal..."
I feel like jf got his sass gene thoery from an inside joke from a bantering couple
"Deh sassy gene dat makes dem fack each oder een dee ass."
Vaush: Nazi Adjacent
JF: Who are you calling “adjacent” ?
😂😂
"Purebreed Couples" *Barf*
Yeah just like those lineages of royal families that passed down genetic deformities for generations. Gotta keep the bloodlines pure though!
He should have just said "pureblood"
More inbred than an Austrian Duke
@Chief Sunna of the Saxons dude, you have any study that supports you clames?
@Chief Sunna of the Saxons dude, ok, so you don’t have nothing to indicate that a parent of mix child can’t love their children.
Mandatory reminder that JF dated a woman who has the "social and mental maturity of a 10- or 11-year-old child" and lured her to another state with the intention to impregnate her. EETS CALLED LOVE.
"She has a VERY low IQ :)" - JF
@@nipplewort Pretty fucking weird considering his eugenic arguments on gay & black people
Who escaped him one night only to get caught by a security camera a few miles down the street. JF's potato love was caught red handed tagging huige swastikas in pink spray paint along with a big heart that had text saying "free richard spencer" and "i love JF".
he's also explicitly stated that he has a "preference" for autistic women
OH SHIT, THATS THIS GUY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA small world
"Socialism is when shops are closed, and the more closed are the shops the more socalism it is. And if all shops are closed, it's communism" Karl Lenin Vladimir Mao Marx
JF groomed another special needs child in this debate.
Oof! I'm dead 💀
🤣🤣🤣
"It's called love!"
"I don't give a shit about your moral offense, you piece of shit" - JF in Destiny debate
Roy Wiseman fat funny haha good meme
He's saying terrible things but I can't stop laughing at his accent.
Is it just me, or does the rapper Shaggy on helium?
@@sammccullough1255 Shaggy sounds more coherent
French Canadian people are known for being hilarious when they speak French, but when they speak English they usually tend to revert to a kind of standard French accent. This is the only person I've ever heard of that retains the hilarious features of Québécois when speaking English.
Pilusmagnus
It's the accent of either the one who despise english or don't give a fuck
he should put that on his channel as a tag line.
If it turns out this guy really did kill his wife then that will make 4 people that Vaush has debated that have gone to jail.
wait four? tier 3 proud boy, coach red pill and who else?
@@EllaEllaAudios The old climate change denier. He was part of the attempted coup against Germany earlier this year.
@@steve94183I never heard about this but I am not surprised in the slightest, despite him being really calm he was one of the bigger lunatics
Disagreeing with vowsh is now illegal 🚔
Vaush stole Destiny’s Croissant in this debate.
Like a veritable pigeon strutting on the chess board knocking over pieces and pooping on the board, delusional Vaush declares himself the debate "winner" despite making an ass-hat of himself as an unabashed IL-liberal fascist employing paralogisms from Lewontin's Fallacy to asserting the starkly self-contradictory, subversively euphemistic guise "POSITIVE liberty" for the IL-liberal fascist imposition to RAPE pacific productive people of the freedom of association not to be aggressed against and extorted of their productivity by the left-wing tyranny of predatory parasitism under the diaphanously subversive guise of "opportunity" and "greater good," rewarding rapaciously extortionist parasitism.
Neuroscientist and biologist Dr. JF Gariepy realized first-hand the reality of this quote: "Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway."
@@TruthDetector100
> Vaush = Il-Liberal Fascist
> JF spends a quarter of the debate trying to argue that the legality of interracial relationships is imposing a detriment on his freedoms
Alright man, whatever you say.
Quest Tzecai maybe it’s just me being exhausted, but fuck I lost it when I read your comment
@@maddoxfanx Correction: [IL]-liberal fascist Vaush.
He sounded like such a larpy fash with the generational war nonsense.
Get out of here, Stalker! Shoulda known a member of Freedom would eventually show up here on Vaush's channel ;)
Love your streams man, and also love to see you like Vaush as well!
Get out of here Stalker
@Mr Olonzo These things do not happen naturally. That long march only happened because those in power either ignored it or gave it their blessings.
@Mr Olonzo funny you think that the right is somehow going to improve lives when all they do is make things difficult for others. We did things your guys way and it was not good at all I am referring to pre civil rights era you guys had your chance and failed. If we did regress back and did things your way it would only prove the point of those who fought agianst you and we would be right back at square one.
I've been saying it for a long time, the right thinks we live in warhammer
This guy's wife has been missing since June this year (2023) and he only told people about it a few days ago, in October. Is anyone surprised? I hope like hell she's safe, but with a husband like this I'm genuinely worried she's not.
That's absolutely insane. I really hope she's okay as well, but based on how unhinged this guy is, I fear the worst.
@@justwannabehappy6735she’s mentally handicapped
Vaush was called an eeeediot in this debate
Ren really owned anarcho-syndaclist Stimpy in this debate
The electric fence was whizzed on in this debate.
Neuroscientist and biologist Dr. JF Gariepy realized first-hand the reality of this quote as to Vaush: "Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway."
Doesn't JF fail to acknowledge that homosexuals could actually be beneficial to group survival, whether it be their role as auxiliary nurturers or otherwise? If homosexuality was actively detrimental to reproductive evolution, you'd think homosexuality would have weeded itself out by now, but it hasn't.
There's a hypothesis that homosexuality is a side effect of increased altruism in species.
Yup, that's the "gay uncle" hypothesis. You'd think he would have heard of it getting his PhD in biology...
The fact that he seems so uneducated on group dynamics in social species like ours makes it abundantly clear that his PhD doesn't qualify him to be an expert on evolutionary biology. He can talk neuroscience if he wants but when it comes to evolution and genetics his comprehension feels high school level at best.
Krista Sreniawski Theres the saying, stats don't lie, but liars use stats too, nazis don't care if their views are the most scientifically supported or rational positions, they simply have a burning hatred inside them that they attempt to justify post hoc with whatever they can their hands on.
I remember a debate where once all points were exhausted the nazi basically just went "Yeah idk I just hate non white people".
@@greensquare6235 whats the name of the hypothesis?
"Very often a male mind" I nearly choked
"They are demanding access to children" omfg
I love nearly choking while giving men mind
That was both unbased and sudden.
He thought he was sounding intellectual.
It's not even wrong, but it's a case where context matters. It's only been a "few" decades since woman, in a good percentage, participate in academic research and being in decision making positions in companies.
As a neuroscientist, it PAINS me that he is literally so incorrect about everything in neuroscience despite claiming he's a neuroscientist. I was surprised to find out he studies neuroscience because he's so WRONG.
SASSY GENE I'M GOING INSANE
Sometimes you make your own science as you go along. After all, it would be taking away from his freedom to make him prove his claims.
Could you point out a direct quote that is wrong?
@@killborg2443 Literally all of his race realism adjacent stuff is incorrect. Same with the idea that the ""gay gene"" would eventually be rooted out which.... is not going to happen as homosexuality has existed through all of history and if it was going to be "bred out" it would be much less prevalent now.
@@krisdone conservatives don't truly believe in science.
JF actually believed that building a family is about growing a political movement in this debate.
He wasn't pretending. That's the basis of the Quiverfull Movement. Just push them out one after another and raise them as conservative christian nationalists.
TheScholar74 tuff
@@trajan74 Yep. Pump em out so they can be brainwashed into a Christian army.
To quote Garrus in Mass Effect 3: "They're breeding an army down here."
@@RavenholmZombie there's an scp that certainly comes to mind
African Americans in the United States are as a matter of fact, NOT the whitest black people in the world. The average black brazilian has almost twice as much european heritage than your average black american.
Race is just skin color racist!!!!
Racist
Why do you know this? lol
@@Alianger Because I'm Brazilian, so I like understanding my people.
@@presidenttogekiss635 I remember seeing something about that in a documentary. Did the spanish/portuguese encourage more mixing with blacks early on or what?
Vaush transfered the Sassy gene to all of us in this debate.
Give me that lateral gene transfer, daddy ~~ uwu
Yas queen🤣
"Sickle cell trait disappeared in the black population in America. "
Laughs in Sickle cell.
This comment needs to be higher up.
I think the point is that the trait is recessive, and has declined to or towards the mean.
It's becoming less of a thing as time and generations pass but you are correct.
@@RBEmpathy That's not what he said. I responding to what he said not the inference.
If he wants to make the statement that it's reduced, that's one thing, but the claim he make is verifiably wrong.
My family has been here throught slavery. Had children with white people but we must be vigilant about who we have children with to this day. My cousins have it full blown. I have a reduced variant.
It's as prominent as being born with light brown eyes. Some of us are carriers.
@@Khemist82 sure, I understand. I just wanted to clarify.
It's certainly a condition we as a society should continue to monitor and mitigate, and it may be inappropriate for him to speak about it this flippantly, while also being demonstrably wrong, if taken literally.
Once you start talking about "Pure Breeds" you've completely lost me and we have some MAJOR issues. Absolutely disgusting.
So dog breeding is nazi
@@ExitStrategies nah it can be unethical though.
Gay
@@ExitStrategies a lot of dog breeds look horrible and disgusting compared to an actual wolf.
@@ExitStrategies it isnt "nazi" but definitely proves it wrong. a lot of dog breeds look horrible and disgusting compared to actual wolves.
People like this guy forget that gay people come from straight couples. We don't have to make more of ourselves, we are you! That's what they seem to forget, we're HUMANS TOO
Yeah and I don't think I've ever heard that parents would suddenly think they're gay too because their child is.
@@SenorMeinKrafter genes fuck up a lot of times in not beneficial ways. There is not a single benefit, besides population growth limitation, but thats against a basic rule of reproduction.
Their whole thing is about finding exceptions for treating people like human beings. They’re really obsessed with it. Race, sex, identity, job, jawline, who you choose to fuck, etc. Every single one of their buzzwords is an epithet meant to make you not consider another person fully human, “cuck” “beta” “NPC” all of the more nasty specific ones they use for specific groups. Like 99% of white people don’t fit their ideal of what a white person “should” do or be so they’re gonna end up in the chopping block too. Fascism is an increasing winnowing down of who should be considered human until you run out of people, because it turns out no single person is their ideal white person, especially not themselves. At the end of the day it emerges from an inner sense of inadequacy and a horrific amount of projection of this onto entire groups of people who you never met for conspiring to ruin YOUR specific sex life. It’s so obviously self centered and delusional.
@@remedialvibes9957 it's gonna be okay
Remedial Vibes i’m sorry you can’t get it in buddy but don’t blame girls or black people or jews. There’s one person you can blame for that and it’s you.
Elon Musk doesn't think up new cars. His engineers do that, he is just a business man who isn't in the creative process at all.
He inherited his money from his Rhodesian emerald mining family fortune. Nothing unethical in colonial emerald mining!
@@deadrose007 "you're wrong because Musk is rich"
@@deadrose007 I hope he sees this man.
I can imagine he came up with that ugly monstrosity of a tank he showed off once and then broke a supposedly reinforced window.
My mans JF be like: Albert Einstein was a man, therefore all wjhite men and only whjite men are big brained
A Pan With No Plan he was also famously Jewish so funny choice as a poster boy for white supremacy.
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072TRUUU. he was German doe, so in his eyes I'm pretty sure they cancel each other out
Funny that his only example was a jewish socialist
@@LaraPosting Famously though, the Nazis didn't think those cancel each other out.
Saying there is a war between the straight gene and the gay gene is like saying there is a war between the worker ant gene and the queen ant gene. It's hard to believe he's a biologist.
Yeah funnily enough that's the most perplexing to me. The sassy gene is an irreverent reference to a possible genetic mechanism contributing to male homosexuality whilst having a net positive fitness as a gene (increased fitness in females and potentially decreased in males)
I am not aware of any such mechanism being shown for human sexuality btw (I have read X linked genes doing effectively that in some fly populations though)
Point being if he's actually aware of that it's actually contrary to his war notion. At least the war is not on a individual level but at most between X and Y chromosomes as such a gene would be detrimental to fitness in men it'd suppress the success of the Y chromosomes it'd shack up with.
@@Yang-ob4lk interesting, thanks I'll check on that.
Though meta analysis of genetic profiles vs sexual behaviour showed only a 3% explanatory value so it'd need quite a bit of nuance as for how impactful it'll be.
@CrateofStolenDirt Lol, he IS a Biologist though, He IS a Doctor of Neuroscience, as far as i'm aware Neuroscience is biology... never working in a field again, however many "reasons" you think there are, doesn't magically make his Ph.D evaporate into thin air.
@CrateofStolenDirt wait, how? Do you have to be doing research at all times or something? (I genuinely haven’t looked much into how the scientific community works so forgive me for asking.)
He's actually saying "the gays are trying to out - breed us!..."
KILL. ME. PLEASE.
THIS GUY'S IDIOCY LEVEL IS HURTING MY BRAIN!
Breed me daddy 😩
Except that’s not what he said at all.
To be fair, I am trying to out breed cis straight people 😉
He's the French-robot-nationalist! Le future of le nationalise!
lol
He really killed his wife
The Virgin Race Realist v The Chad Multiculturalist
i think i just vomited in my mouth
It's incredible how obsessed with reproduction JF is. He literally sees everything as some kind of biological competition.
And yet seems to have such a poor level of understanding especially considering his background.
Yaldabaoth this is why you need to bully nerds like him enough so they don’t have the courage to speak up. He had way too much encouragement in high school
That's a trend I've noticed among the far-right. Reproduction is a big talking point for them.
@@RavenholmZombie of course it is because they're incels and believe in the great replacement,
it's the breeding fetish bleeding through
JF is a biologist and neuroscientist. However his understanding of evolutionary theory is sub-par. The guy's a hack. To call the struggle for existence a war and take that to political conclussions is psychotic.
he left academia anyway to do alt right youtube videos
@Mr Olonzo Actually no
@Mr Olonzo My attack isn't that superfiscial. As I implied, I take issue with the distorting the concept of the struggle for existence into a war, and deriving political conclussions from that. I'm not gonna write out a basic assesment of these concepts because it's clear for everyone with a basic grasp on the concept of the struggle for existence that JF is a hack.
I'm not gonna write out an essay response in youtube comment. That would be a waste of my time.
Olivier Schröder conclusions**
You very clearly don’t understand what he is saying. He is speaking about things that are far beyond your comprehension/ intelligence.
I was getting a huge “don’t discriminate against my right to discriminate” vibe from this little Frenchman.
I'm gonna assume you're also very little, therefore anything you say is invalid.
@@futu1983 feel free. Makes no difference to me.
@@futu1983 lmfaooo JF fans crack me up
yes people should be allowed to discriminate, overall the civil rights act is nothing more than plain fascism.
@@kazatak4759 Please tell me you are being sarcastic
Bro you can’t just go to the forest most land is privately owned including forests
Yeah i wonder if its even possible to go into any random ass forest and try to build a home. Im sure you could get away with it but if you were somehow discovered they'd haul you ass off the land.
just go to the moon
@@warptens5652 living on the moon sounds like a pain in the ass.
Did that guy seriously take offence to the word "adjacent" by Vaush?
He got constantly offended by the most pointless things
Based pp
I cried a little when you started talking about the abusive anti-gay parents, because that was what I lived through. My dad tried to gross me out with gay people, tried to make me hate myself.
SAME. I never really thought about guilt as a form of abuse before, probably because it's too painful to think about sometimes.
Dude, that's awful - I hope you're surrounded by people who love you now
Very sorry; I hope things are better for you now.
I just wanna say, I've really appreciated all the support I've gotten in this thread. It's always good to be reminded that there are people who give a shit:) sorry for the sob story, I just couldn't help it when I watched this vid
It’s horrific and I feel you. No child should ever suffer that again
This conversation:
"muh freedom"
"no, _muh_ freedom"
"no, MUH freedom"
No M U H freedom
nate mugambi NO, THIS IS PATRICK
Sorry I had to.
@@Potatotenkopf cringe
@@Potatotenkopf so edgy
so like he definitely killed her right
Definitely.
How is this guy still relevant? I thought his _career_ was over after he made a fool out of himself on Destiny's channel 3-4 years ago.
As long as there are insecure white people who need to be told they're superior to blacks and Jews he'll have a career. And the fact that he's a PhD is vanilla icing on the Wonder Bread cake.
@Samurai Jack I'm talking about this one although the one you linked goes to show his intellectual decline (and the poor quality of discussions/debates Destiny had that year) ua-cam.com/video/xRHTD0YMfpM/v-deo.html
If Vaush's summarily exposing his lack of credibility is JF's getting "annihilated," then give me some of that too! The self-evident confirmation is in the actual debate with Dr. JF wherein Vaush made an ass-hat of himself as an unabashed IL-liberal fascist employing the starkly self-contradictory, subversively euphemistic guise "POSITIVE liberty" for the IL-liberal fascist imposition to RAPE pacific productive people of the freedom of association not to be aggressed against and extorted of their productivity by the left-wing tyranny of predatory parasitism under the diaphanously subversive guise of "opportunity" and "greater good," rewarding rapaciously extortionist parasitism.
@@jasonpk2267 I'm sorry but your hermetic, incoherent, delusional rambling reads like chronic schizophrenia.
@@danny.nedelk0 I can type the apropos words, but I can't make an unlettered ignoramus understand them. Capiche?
RIP JF MAMA
So a biologist who studies eels walks into a bar and tells you how eugenics is a real science...
You try to fish for a good argument, but the conversation just leaves you feeling eel and you lose moray-l
@@AnAdequateViolinist that is an amazing dad joke 🏆
Lampreys.
Ziz reel yesz?
@@monolith834 It's amazing how I've survived so long knowing fuck all about lampreys
Bro killed his wife wtf
Every time I hear JF he sounds nuttier than the last time.
Yeah he definitely killed his wife full stop
Jumping to conclusions is usually what idiots do 😂
@@AllinnKall true, but making reasonable assumptions based on evidence is what based people do
"I don't like forced education, let the parents decide"
Of course, let the flat earther and anti-vaxer parents decide to exclude their kids from basic science.
"Well, you see Timmy. God created the Earth in six days, vaccines are the Mark of Satan, and psychology is Marxist propaganda. Youre prepped for college now!"
He didn't even consider the possibility that homosexuality might have an evolutionary reason which is why after all these millennia it still exists in humans and the animal kingdom, it's called kin selection. He doesn't even know that evolution is not a game of an individual, but of kin. And he doesn't understand that our existence as a function of evolution is a descriptive claim and not a normative one and therefore doesn't say anything about what we ought to do or value. His argument is flawed on so many levels, but the worst part is that he doesn't even understand what's wrong with it.
His war is completely ridiculous. There is no war, gay people aren't playing the reproductive game. He's just pretending there is because it gives him the satisfaction of "winning" because there is no competition. He's like the guy who plays pool alone while everyone is chilling at the bar, pretending like he's playing against them shouting that he's winning because he counts their absence as them passing their turn. It's so cringe.
The gay gene is in fact the attraction to men gene. Women with this gene have higher reproductive success, so what happens if we make gays stay in the closet??
@@christopherlin4706 you sound literally braindead.
@@christopherlin4706 Wrong
"you are exploiting the rich" my sides have left the galaxy
I remember this guy from when I followed Andy Warski. JF has the tendency to gaslight people. "I didn't say that". Except, you did. It's a weasely way to avoid criticism, and Jedi Mind Trick you into forgetting what he said, deflecting any accusation and responsibility.
God, I remember when I used to watch Andy Warski too. What a time that was.
Its really funny when he tries to gaslight vaush in this stream though. It just comes off as exceptionally stupid and hes not even good at it. Hes about as competent at gaslighting as Coach Red Pill is.
Andy ‘Stay Back’ Racewarski
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 yo AIM AIM AIM AIM
i can't believe this is happening. i remember the guy from when he was a frequent guest on the drunken peasants podcast... it feels like that was in a different universe.
Yeah same here. I forgot about him until last year when paul mentioned on DFF that JF wanted to have a hangout but blocked him after paul said he was disgusted at how JF became a nazi
@@Spongebrain97 I forgot about him until I saw he interviewed david duke after the release of blackkklansman 🙈 if you like good cringe i'd definitely recommend that one! I never started watching dff for some reason, is it any good?
@@blondinevloggt DFF is great, I'm a patron there.
Have shows that vary from biographies, lists, history, cults, killers, politics, etc. It's some juicy shit my duderino
Yeah, I was surprised to find out that he's a Nazi dipshit now.
@@Spongebrain97 you have any idea which dff video that was in?
Ok after the sodomy gene stuff I'm now convinced JF is actually a Sacha Baron Cohen character. Big ups to him for being so committed to the bit.
I still love how he calls Vaush's nazi adjacent accusation a feminine attack.
Not a lot of people who'd get angry at that part of the label "Nazi Adjacent"
reminds me of Julius Evola who denied being a fascist and instead referred to himself as "superfascist"
25:23 'They are demanding access to children"...
Sounds familiar, JF
Please stop calling JF "French". He isn't French, he's Canadian. The French in France don't want to be associated with this man.
As an half-french I agree with this statement.
@@PajamaJazama Racist
Us Canadians want nothing to do with this slug.
@@PajamaJazama We're not all bad. Oh and your forgot to put mad max there.
@@chiefpotleaf2338Well, guy is born and raised Canadian, so you gotta deal with him.
I remember seeing JF on the drunken peasants podcast some years ago and i thought he was one of their more funny and charming guests.
I had no idea back then that he would turn out be the hands down most evil person on youtube I can think of
NealSadhaka yeah same...
He has always been like this.
deathpresent101 he used go be better at hiding it. Maybe he just doesnt feel the need to anymore
That G-man debate on DP made him look good. Turns out that being an atheist and a biologist doesn't preclude you from being both a horrible and stupid person. Heck, nowadays Gman may be a better person then JF. What a turnaround .
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Monsieur Voosh burned down an entire province in this debatè.
I rarely comment, but this person was so disheartening. At "pure breed" I was just disgusted.
JF is lying when he says he doesn't think parents should be forced to educate their kids a specific way. In Quebec there is Bill 101 which forces Anglophones without English heritage in Quebec to attend only French schools and not English ones. I'm 100% sure he supports this law which means he's fine dictating how immigrant children are educated just not his own.
People like him are hypocrites no surprise.
@Rah Rah Rasputin no he wants them educated in a specific manner
@Rah Rah Rasputin spat out my water because of this comment
A right-winger lying!? Oh my!
Lol
theres a reason for this law....we are 6 million frenchies in an ocean of 400 million blokes...without bill 101 french culture would be dead in 100 years
Social sciences would be a lot more understandable to the common person if the terminology weren't so simplistic and yet complicated.
People like JF are able to easily conflate issues such as near the end of the conversation, the topic of whiteness vs white people.
Whiteness sounds to the common person as a trait of those who're white, and when you say whiteness is a problem, it comes across as an attack on white people.
Similarly, the gender/sex term confusion causes many of the problems with transrights and the entire conversation as a whole when it comes to identity.
If social sciences used complex terms akin to biologists and the like, where the term is effectively useless without basic knowledge of academic theory on the topic, I think we'd get a lot further with the conversations. Instead, the simplicity of the terms themselves lend the topic to being misconstrued and the audience potentially unwittingly getting pulled down a darker rabbit hole. I for example would agree with the idea of gender abolitionism and what I perceive as normalization as opposed to placation of minority groups and identities.
Failure of communication, and the simplicity of the terms, are part of how I got sucked into the Sargon rabbit hole at first. Certain types of media such as Star Trek became twisted from their original design by new writers and directors with perceived motives. Same with Star Wars. This change and shift in media I was fairly attached to, one which formed some utopian ideas within me, and one which seemed like a perfect surface level allegory for the struggle against corruption and fascism within governing bodies, was enough to cause me to want to be involved. But after finding someone who seemingly called out many of my problems, they went on to articles about gender identity, and other social issues with conflated terms, and I was slowly coming to conflate the two myself in such a way that fairly benign statements easily became inflammatory attacks, all due to misinterpretation and/or bad rhetoric on their part.
"Failure of communication" *proceeds to write a 3 paragraphs analysis in the youtube comment section* (jk comrade, I agree with everything)
@@maett7101 What better way to communicate than to scream into the ether of a comment section? :O
this is a fantastic comment
JF is pretty much a nazi he was probably fully aware of the academic usage of whiteness but he will conflate it to simply being opposed to white people in order to give the white people listening to him a victimhood complex. Notice he never addresses if he actually disputes the idea of opposing the exclusionary view of whiteness this is because he already agrees with the idea of whiteness being a foundational benchmark for my guess whatever he deems a white society. I agree with you but am just pointing out in this example he knows what he's doing. JF is just really racist
@Rah Rah Rasputin yes, if the jargon were more obscure then an outsider would be more inclined to look up terms than to Intuit the definition only to be lead astray by their intuitive definition
That's the argument being put forth by OP, anyway
The silly accent does a surprising amount to blunt the edge of all the unspeakably horrible shit he says, but not enough.
Good comment
Silly accent? I'm so sorry for you, because your kind of people cancel themselves in the head when such a biggotry was spoken by their tongue, even if accidentally
Dude I can destroy JF's "I can find you a genes" claim. Every single gene he names I can look up and it will show that there is a massive complicated signal cascade that correlative but not causative. Also there's a ton of regulatory DNA that we are only now learning how it functions.
@fluoxy L. Whaaaaat? I'm a bio major, and I can tell you we know tons about genes since genes are: "exclusively DNA regions that code for proteins". The only problem is: that's maybe like 5 percent of the genetic code in a living thing. Everything else which we considered junk DNA is actually super important in regulation and things like that. But it's true that you can't make really any declarative or essentialist statements from genes. That's anti science..
@fluoxy L. yeah because I actually know shit dipshit. And I know how hard it is to actually know stuff. Instead of deep throating your favourite bigot, maybe try mine instead.
Bro, causation in science is when you have correlation and the theory how both events are linked.
@@werrkowalski2985 No
@@nomercynodragonforyou9688 How else then do you determine causation?
Tommy Wiseau got spooned in this debate
It's ok JF, I have a breeding fetish too but you shouldn't let that color your political philosophy 😂
Why are you people so obsessed with sex?
Almost every right winger is the same. They ignore the detailed explanation Vaush gives, focus on the buzzwords and strawman him on what they feel like they mean.
Vaush talked to a funny Frenchman in this video
@UCEnn8UIKHEBIx4eXXc4UD6Q FUNNY QUÉBEC FROG
JF is basically saying "Participate in Capitalism or die" and that's freedom.
Isn't it also freedom if I rode up to him with a flintlock pistol, dressed like Adam Ant, and demanded his money or his life? He has the choice to give me his money, or he can die? That's freedom isn't it?
Exactly. You’ve given him a fair contract, consent to let me rob you or consent to die!
“Abuse requires a positive act”? What? If I don’t feed my kids, is that not abuse?
To a leftist, everything needs to be contextualized (e.g., criminal behaviour, IQ differences between people, personality differences, etc.) in a proper socioeconomic framework, except when that same leftist needs to win an argument with rhetoric; then a quote without its context is absolutely permitted. Since you are too dense to understand JF's point yourself, I will explain the context again: Vaush offered two scenarios, one in which a parent willfully induced fear into a child, and another in which the child simply extrapolated to himself the known opinion of the parents which ill-favours gayness. In the former, the parent intend to cause fear. In the latter, the parents don't intend anything, and aren't even aware that their child is anxious. This is why JF made a distinction between "positive" and negative action. Is it understood?
@@lynx882 The analogy is feeding poison and not feeding. You people are so intellectually lazy.
@@greensquare6235 The analogy is most certainly not about "feeding." You're confused, methinks. See 13:34
@@lynx882 I'm referring to the commenter's analogy. One is an action with negative consequences, the other is inaction with similar consequences. Understand?
@Ides94 I will take that as a "I don't understand."
In addition you just sling a claim out without responding to Green Square.
The moment he says "the homosexual lifestyle" you just know...
This guy has a PhD in Biology and actually believes race has a strong biological basis 🤦♂️ it’s like having a PhD in Physics and thinking that space and time are absolute. It’s so outdated it’s almost comical 🤣
He studies eels, the most similar to humans in a society
Youre so fxxking stupid
@@falkreathguard7895 At least don’t censor yourself, bud.
@@falkreathguard7895 Also, kindly, fuck off. Biologists and Anthropologists have known, for a long time, that race has little biological basis. Our phenotypes are very diverse, but our genotypes are all basically the same.
@@cashglobe different races of dgos, cats, birds, but not humans. Alright
If this is what he believes, JF should know his place as a Québécois. 400 years of francophones being of much lower socioeconomic status than anglophones on average and comparable in variance don’t lie.
I wonder what his answer to this is.
Democracy bad, men good, white good.
Bruh...
Typical Nazi shit really.
I used to be a fan of JF on the old DP days. It sucks to see what he’s become
@Leak Jefferson nah I think he was but just didn't give his insane opinions
I'm actually shocked but the fascist from last week had 10 times better arguments than this guy.
Anyone I don't like is a fascist
@@liopergonsd58 is jf gariepy not a fascist? What is a fascist to you? Who do you think DGaming is referring to?
@@liopergonsd58 The guy from last week called himself fascist and was totally open with it.
@Liopergon SD he literally said he was a fascist.
Liopergon SD Dude the guy he is referring to was literally an open fascist. Like he called himself one.
I really do not like JF but kudos to him for staying and not running away as soon they are meet with (a sprinkle) resistence. Im looking at you Coach Red Pill.
If Vaush's summarily exposing his lack of credibility is JF's getting "annihilated," then give me some of that too! The self-evident confirmation is in the actual debate with Dr. JF wherein Vaush made an ass-hat of himself as an unabashed IL-liberal fascist employing the starkly self-contradictory, subversively euphemistic guise "POSITIVE liberty" for the IL-liberal fascist imposition to RAPE pacific productive people of the freedom of association not to be aggressed against and extorted of their productivity by the left-wing tyranny of predatory parasitism under the diaphanously subversive guise of "opportunity" and "greater good," rewarding rapaciously extortionist parasitism.
@@jasonpk2267 You know, the difference between a good troll and a bad troll (you) is a good troll knows how to update their shtick. I mean, really? The same exact copy pasta? Meh, report as spam
@@dantealighieri8403 Can't refute the irrefutable factual content of the observations, so what do you do? Diversion: prattle on and carp about economizing my time with copy and paste in dealing with the same kind of fascist idiots for which the same message applies. Capiche?
@@jasonpk2267 lmao, ok bud.
@@jasonpk2267 You know that gibberish doesn't need to be refuted. It can be dismissed.
Vaush legit doesn't even comprehend that he got trounced by this weird French Canadian 😂
Fascist suck
Rage and Revolution is needed.
@Pie Fish Oh yes, it's working just fine for black people. Let's peacefully stand around then get murdered let's not fight back at all. Violent revolution is self defense.
I always knew the french were up to somethin
"I fawuk weemin"
In theory maybe.
Hate to say it but JF won this debate pretty handily :/
I would hate to say that too, because I didn't perceive that at all.
I'm from Western Canada but go to school in Quebec, and my current math prof has an accent very similar to this, and I find it utterly hilarious (you should hear him say ellipse), but this man has ruined my enjoyment of the Quebec accent.
EgWyps don't let this man ruin Quebec for you.
Watch JT's Jacques LeCoq Grande in the Love Guru. The Québécois accent is beautiful.
I refuse to believe he got his PhD via legit means. He sounds so ignorant in every way. Either he got a degree in some bogus subject or he bought it.
You refuse to believe it because? He's clearly very intelligent, despite any character flaws you may find. You're bias shows your ignorance
@@johnj1646 he is very clearly not very intelligent. Someone who cannot understand the logical conclusions of their beliefs is an idiot.
@@johnj1646
Name one thing he said that's intelligent.
@@bananian I disagree with a lot of what he says when it comes to politics and social values. But-
His post doctoral research is somewhat well known and respected in his field, thats something you can say about few neuroscientists (like ever).
His theory about "phenotypic revolution" is original and interesting (he describes it in his book, the process in which life came about, from simple proteins to rna to dna).
He has defined race in a clear and scientific way, you can find his video titled "What is white?" on bitchute (though it might take some time finding it). He breaks it down in a way only an intelligent and educated person could, he examines genetic "clusters" and breaks down the arbitrary nature of racial categories.
And though his delivery and rhetoric can be autistic and crude, he usually has no trouble getting to the point and communicating whatever he has to say in an intelligent manner
@@johnj1646
Ok you lost me at what is white.
"Ah doun't, ah'm ah sci-EHN-test."
Just discovering Vaush and already a fan. I remember JF from the Drunken Peasants days and it is fucking insane how far he's fallen
Vaush is insufferable.
@@TommyGunz327 You're confusing him for Jordan Peterson
@@nomercynodragonforyou9688 no I’m literally not. Vaush is a disgrace. He’s a hypocrite and a fraud. Peterson is honest at the very least. Vaush clearly isn’t intelligent enough to actually understand what Peterson speaks about and it shows in his critiques of Peterson.
Vaush avenged JF’s wife in this debate
JF failed to prove that it isn't okay to be gay in this debate.
JF admitted to receiving a 52 thousand dollar grant from Jeffery Epstein, not in this debate (but did so in his debate with Richard Spencer.)
A parent's preference regarding their child's sexuality is totally irrelevant. Opinions don't determine sexuality. Crazy, I know. What he's really advocating for is the right for parents to teach their kids that being gay is bad. That way, if the child turns out to be gay, they can hate themselves and assume their parents probably do too. Such an amazing defender of rights and freedom you are, JF!
"Exploitative of the rich" ..... I'm dying inside
Vaush: *says anything*
JF: "Very interesting"