"You're Gonna Get Clipped For That..." INSANE Rematch w/ Canadian Supernazi
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Nazi: "I'm not racist. I'm a race realist."
* _spews Jewish conspiracies and wants a race war_ *
They literally just get triggered by the word racist
@@ronaldmexico1297 slave owners were exactly the same,
They were just as incompetent as well, ever heard of the anti-Tom books
so yeah your typical race "realist"
Distinction without a difference
Fun fact, the portmanteau of "race-Realist" is "racist"
My first thought was that these Nazis are never sending their best to represent the ideology. Then I remembered that they’re all the worst, so they’re never going to be able to anyway.
Their best was Richard Spencer and he went full mask off once a little set back happened to him at Charlottesville. LMAO
@@balvarine8709 that leaked audio was the funniest shit ever
@@dreamleaf4363 link?
@@dreamleaf4363 And it was leaked by Milo Yiannopoulous, which made it even more hilarious in hindsight.
Nazis have no best...
Vaush: “I benefit from equality.”
Nazi: “No.”
Truly the pinnacle of discourse.
I'm here, sitting in the UK, listening to this Canadian tell us Europeans we are not influenced by American culture....... While I am eating a McDonalds, having just finished Breaking Bad and looking forward to the last season of Brooklyn 99......... Yeah man, American culture hasn't got over the pond at all....
Ahh... That shit was so fucking stupid. Greetings from Finland. It's not like we look up to America as some great pillar of hope. I prefer the way our economy works etc. but I'd say that about 50% of the entertainment people up here consume comes from the United States.
Also had some Mickey D's today. Not proud of it though...
Canadian here. I cannot even begin to express the levels of cringe I feel when I hear this idiot trying to say that American culture isn’t influential, or that it’s media isn’t present in CANADA of all places. Like...buddy, you realize that we Canadians throw maple leaves onto everything so we know what ISN’T American....right?
@@seothis640 Exactly this and the second comment. we don't hold America up as the be-all-end-all on anything, even culture. But to say we're not influenced by it is just denying reality.
NY expat in Rotterdam, and damn, dude is just wrong. What's below cringe?
Clearly ur a fake European lol it’s ok to admit ur American :p
This the same guy who said, "black people can't control themselves" yet he loses his temper when his stupid takes are challenged!? Oh this is gonna be good.
He's inside a projector and when he sees his silhouette going nuts he thinks it's a black guy.
@@nucleargandhi2709 omfgggggg x'D
He was especially unhinged here.
Clown has no self-awareness.
@@nucleargandhi2709 Damn, Gandhi really dropped it on him. periodt
All "good faith" nazi discussions always start with calculated virtue signaling and end with an angry slur.
Every. Single. Time.
Richard Spencer...... actually all of the alt right
"Beauty is OBJECTIVE."
"But different societies across the world have different beliefs on what is beautiful."
"Well yeah, it's OBJECTIVE within different societies."
I am. So tired.
The more I listen to that guy talk, I can feel my brain cells committing suicide
i am in spain w/out the s
"I believe in one race the human race, therefore all worldviews that don't conform to MY worldview are SILLY"
???????????
Go read some Plato; maybe you''ll listen to him instead of me.
@The Bul This NAZI is so tiresome & yes, he’s killing my brain cells. WTH is WRONG with him?!? So glad I have never met anyone this hateful & delusional IRL. 🤦🏻♀️
@@michaelthurlow683 you're right, unlike you Platon doesn't have his head up his ass and is able to coexist with other school of ideas. You're a dead end bro.
This guy trying to defend his stance on how beauty isn't subjective is both hilarious and cringeworthy.
Beauty isn’t subjective depending on what you mean by beauty
Beauty is subjective but it's influenced by societal beauty standards.
@@Mrllama-ui5ke I'm sorry what? Depending on what one means is inherently subjective. Your comment reads like: "Beauty is not subjective, until it is."
Beauty is objective and subjective. Why would it be changed for a time where it has never existed and doesn’t have to? Are you that stupid?
It sounds like he's making up arguments on the fly. Very dumb. He's making fake arguments to avoid saying his actual position, which is that non-whites physically disgust him.
This man is so panicked, so full of fear. It’s hard to listen to him and not feel sad and completely exhausted.
How is a nazi fearful?
fr it was so exhausting.... like how does this guy live lmao
Right....? he's so dumb, I almost feel bad for him
Almost
@@Eltipoquevisteayer Oh, fear’s a big ideological tool for fash. Fear of the other, fear of losing power, fear of women… I could go on for a while.
Well, on the other hand, it kinda makes me hopeful, because if this is the modern racist mask off, then they're as weak minded as their ideology.
His mic is fine he's just insane and can't talk without yelling
You know calling someone “insane” is ableist right
@@nickb1241 not if it's true
@@maddyc2412 based
Theres a cultural subset of Canadians who talk like they're shouting over a hockey game at all times. The term hoser applies.
@@nickb1241 I can see how "insane" could be ableist. Would "deranged" work better, since it refers to a state of mind and not a condition?
The dehumanisation lmao.
“When *a black* says to another *black* “
Also the fact that he wasn't able to say something like "When a black person says 'Hey, I would like [argument]". No, he cannot think about black people without doing a minstrel show. He has to do a fake black voice, otherwise he wouldn't realize that the people he's talking about are black.
It's just incredible to me how he cannot comprehend that you can talk about black people and their interests *without* doing a fucking black voice.
He wasn't even good at it either
As an English person; The idea that we don't watch/consume american media/culture just because we have Channel 4 and the BBC MIGHT legitimately be the funniest thing I have ever heard in my life.
And here I thought that socialists like Vaush would be against the cultural/economic colonization of other races/groups. "Yikes"
@@michaelthurlow683 He didn't necessarily condone it. He sounded proud because yeah, American, but really he was just stating how far it has gone.
Also, smugness is very funny when refuting a Nazi's argument.
@@thesunwillneverset Sounds like a massive amount of cope.
You don't know why he said what he said. It seems reasonable to me that he said it because he meant it the way he said it. You're making excuses for someone you're a fan of.
Smugness is never funny.
He didn't refute my arguments. He strawmanned them.
@@michaelthurlow683 I agree that I can't know why Vaush said what he said or if he was or wasn't well intentioned. Of course I'm defending Vaush both because I'm a fan of his and because I believe that he 'won' this debate (as far as you can win something as subjective as debate). Believe what you want about the outcome of this debate and how Vaush performed, I've made my opinion clear. Good day.
@@thesunwillneverset What I find ironic, and it's sapped a lot of my hope for the future away, is the fundamental error in understanding subjective vs objective; and the number of people failing to understand both things while accusing me of not knowing what subjectivity/objectivity are.
Objective doesn't mean ubiquitous, it doesn't mean universally true. It means "Facts outside of personal bias, feelings, or opinions"
A debate, especially a debate like this one was is always objective, because the things being discussed are facts; and Vaush has a very narrow grasp on what those facts are. I've started watching his material since my appearances on the show, and this isn't something unique to the appearances I made; Vaush routinely makes authoritative statements about subjects he has little to no experience with.
As a “black” I feel as though this guy had a gf in high school that left him for another fellow “black” and he’s never gotten over it. He really went on a tangent there and it’s clear us “Jamals” live in his head rent free 🤷🏽♂️
As a “black”, it’s clear to see Jerome got him heated for YEARS 😬
edit: Just heard him say “colored folk” and dear lord did it send a chill down my spine.
I’m a poc myself - although I’m targeted with far less obvious racism - so it’s genuinely horrifying to hear so much racist bullshit against black people. I’m sorry you have to live in a world where it’s normal to hear that kind of shit. Maybe I’m being one of those cringy people in a target alleyway holding a fist of solidarity whenever they see a black person, I don’t know, but whenever I hear explicit racism towards brown people I break down crying, so I can’t imagine having it this normalized.
@@cosmetanoia5018 It's perfectly fine to feel that way, seems like we just have to roll with the punches and come out on top. It's a draining experience and tbh sometimes the racism I hear out of people's mouths just surprises me. I don't even get mad anymore, I just nervously laugh at it and then walk away because I feel uncomfortable. It's a sickening yet common feeling I have now; that it's so common that I have to walk it off or be seen as a "bitch".
Make sure alongside the fist to take strides in discussion and like the guy below said, signing petition.
@@cosmetanoia5018 Tbh I don't see it as cringy as long as you back the solidarity fist with some action, whether that's signing petitions or having tough conversations with friends/family about race in the US.
Get his ass
No witty comments here but I was laughing when he said his aunt’s piano wasn’t peasant music, implying that he hangs around people who use “peasant” as an insult unironically
That’s hilarious
In the last debate, he talked about how he lived in a trailer park in Florida once, and that it was kept clean because only white people lived there. I get the feeling when he said "trailer park" he meant "gated RV park at the marina", because there are plenty of trashed up trailer parks littering the south where the tenants are predominantly white. I have a strong hunch he's some trust fund kid. It'd explain his disconnection from reality.
Makes sense since his super villain catchphrase is “thATS yOUR PrERogAtive”
This dude talks about music as if he's some classically trained snob that knows what "real music" is.
But even a classically trained snob acknowledges WAP as both music and art.
@@fruitygarlic3601 hey at least he tried to emulate it by reading out the lyrics but because he’s so tone deaf his rendition is not as good but he did manage to capture some of the essence of this beautiful piece of music by spawning a shit ton of memes. He tried unfortunately he’s tone deaf and monotone still A for effort
as a “coloured person” and “known black” with a marketing degree, I want to know where he sees all the “blacks” on tv more than whites besides BET at his dentists office
Dunno. I'm also Canadian and while I dont watch lots of television nowadays(except with the familly) I don't know where he sees people of color everywhere.
I see more more diversity for sure, but there's still plenty of white women(and men) in media.
"When one black says to another black" really spoke to me. As a black, i just love the dehumanization😂😂
Right! 🤦🏿♂️ hell fellow black 😆
@@macmcskullface1004 hi I'm one of the blacks
@@macmcskullface1004 why that sounds amazing. Let all us blacks do the stuff blacks do
@KING SOYBOY he went the steven crowder route
He was really trying to talk like us “blacks”. You know, since we all speak Ebonics with an Alabama accent. 🤦🏽
"everybody prefers white women" PLEASE THAT CRACKED ME TF UP LMFOO
Clearly hes never heard of Asian fetishization (yellow fever) or jungle fever, or the sexualization of “exotic” latinas. Brainded
Yeah not me. A hot chick is a hot chick.
Yeah not me. A hot chick is a hot chick.
@@violetsparkles5453 them brazilians 😍
I'm a white dude and I like black girls and latinas.
His repulsive ideology aside, he's clearly too emotionally invested in this to be an effective debater. And yet they'll pretend to be so enlightened.
"Is that enough for their beauty standard to be objective?"
"Well, *for them* sure!"
He does not know what subjectivity is at all.
Nazis spend so much time deceiving themselves and others that labels mean nothing
So of course their vocabulary atrophied
And yet he tried so hard in the first 20 minute to sound educated.
Back at it like a crack addict I can’t stop watching send help
Yep, he went full mask off in this one though whilst he was trying to retain it in the last debate.
it's so cringe how can you watch it?
@@lubu2960 at a certain point the cringe Is what you come for
@@stang9806 yeah, listening to this guy get calmly bodied by Vaush and him losing his shit every time is the perfect thing honestly. I really hope this becomes a weekly thing.
@@lubu2960 cus it’s funny how cringe the racists are when vaush is all calmly explaining exactly why they are wrong
"Why am I muting you? Because I can hear you putting shoe shine on your face" 😂
I don't know if I like the tone he used every time he said "BLACKS"
He means it with venom. A black guy on the corner selling drugs and a black lawyer are all the same to him.
Hhhwite.
You don't know if you like what an overt Nazi says in regards to any ethnicity?
Even as sarcasm that comes off as super lame :p lmao.
maybe it has do with him being a nat-z33?
Yeah really sounds like he might have some underlying biases lol
Him screaming about a weighted blanket while having the most obvious meltdown I've seen in a few years is sending me. Man is absolutely freaking out, mad as hell, shrieking about how Vaush is triggered. Pure comedy.
I think in the live chat on YT everyone was just confused by that.
Like does this dingus not realise that weighted blankets aren't just used by autistic people?
@@Blakbox92 Vaush is autistic though.
@@Blakbox92 Contrary, I think he conflates them with "Gen Z sensitivity"/snowflakes rather than ASD. Not sure why, though.
Really wanna get a weighted blanket :(
I can't sleep without a weighted blanket :( Summers really suck.
@@thesunwillneverset they p nice, tho mine could be even heavier tbh
It’s scary how charismatic and eloquent this guy thinks he is...
Dunning Krueger effect par excellence
“Europeans don’t watch American television”
The BBC airs Star Trek the next generation like 30% of the time
Also like, of course we watched American television? Most of European television has less budget (even doctor who), which significantly impacts it's creative value... It's more accessible than american one, but still not as popular.
That makes me happy. I may not watch it but my dad loves it. Also, they pioneered many fanfic tropes so we have them to thank for a lot.
Our culture is dope as far as creativity is concerned: One of the select few things I really love about this country. ✌️
Based UK
Every time I've been in a European country their TV is almost ALL American entertainment. It's crazy.
I like how he had to force himself at several points to say "colored people" instead of people of color - correcting himself, even. He has to deliberately make himself sound more racist.
That's so important to point out. It's terrifying he's actively trying to be racist. He refuses to come across not as a nazi. It's his entire personality, his lifestyle. It makes me so immensly sad that people can fall down this rabbit hole
@@spicewitch9115 There's a reason it's so hard to bring people left at that point. It's the Conservative Event Horizon. Your whole identity becomes this ideal version of yourself where you're based and obliterating leftist snowflakes with facts and logic. You take steps to make yourself appear further gone than you really believe. You refuse to listen to or accept any arguments which attack the foundation of your belief. You think your arguments are purely logical, so when they're countered with logic you can't cope so you switch to desperate defense of your self-esteem, tuning out any argument as liberal BS.
People who have passed this Event Horizon need serious help and continued de-brainwashing to be pulled left and most never get that.
There's a Leftist Event Horizon too, but it tends to be tankies rather than fascists with a lot of the same desperate defensive tendencies
Then there's the Centre. All it takes to escape this Event Horizon is radicalisation or education on politics to actually care about politics in any meaningful way.
@@thesunwillneverset the difference between a fascist and a tankie is that tankies can be de-radicalized more easily
Not to mention the part kinda near end where he goes “n-“ before cutting himself off and saying “black people”. He’s a racist but is so angry when called one
as a POC this made me so mad like we have decided we don’t like that word don’t use it !!
"it's a war against racism. are you taking the racism side?"
"absolutely"
at least he's honest i guess
He defined whiteness as far East as Afghanistan, as far south as North Africa, and deliberately included the Levant, where Israel is, but there aren’t white Jewish people...sure.
Thank you I missed that in all the bullshit.
@@Snorlaxx64 I imagine one might. There is just so much of it.
Image the shock he will feel if he ever gets to see a white Jew, he'd have a heart attack
@@IAmACloud44 funny thing is he's probably seen dozens but it's never occured to him that they COULD be jewish because they look white
The 'lee-vant'
Damn it ended with the nazi screaming slurs, who woulda thunk
shocking, right, NOT! - Borat
@Troll Baitwrong. Gr8 b8 m8
@Troll Bait Bro if you don't like Vaush that's fine but saying that kinda thing on a video with him debabing a nazi makes you sound like a nazi sympathizer
My mans heard the word “prerogative” once from a Jordan Peterson interview and won’t let anyone forget it
V: "we can touch tips if you want"
CS: "that's gross"
Me: "oh so this guy would be no fun at parties"
he is a nazi, of course he doesn't have friends nor go to parties filled with "degenerates"
I feel like rubbing tips together would actually feel really good
Ive never had an opportunity but when i can 👀👀
I’m just not sure how that would feel. I’m sure the sensation would be ok but I’m not sure I could get over the awkward eye contact. I’m a cis male so that may be my personal hang up with that.
@@LundunDansquaI’m asexual and I find that the case for every sexual encounter, especially kissing on the lips 😂 when I learned some people keep their eyes open I was mortified
@@41052, just want to validate your feelings, i am not asexual, i also find the idea of someone keeping their eyes open horrifying.
I genuinely believe that the word "Mexican" is a trigger for Conservatives and even more for Nazis.
My joke with the Potato Head controversy is that conservatives can keep him male, but they have to call him Senor Potato Head.
They really get triggered of you tell them Hispanic is not a race. Some literally lose their shit of you tell them white Hispanics exist.
Idk about the nazi's. They seem too concerned about black people and Jewish people to really care about Hispanic people much. It's only conservatives I hear hate on people south of the border.
@@MichaelAronson Señor with an ñ
@@ministergold5129 I'm a white hispanic adn these fools think I don't exist, kek
I believe this guy is INCREDIBLY sheltered from the outside world.
He respects the Sentinelese for their way of life. That's all you need to know.
The Nazi guy that he could salvage his terrible performance from the first time, he only got wrecked even harder in this debate
Maybe the supernazi has a humiliation fetish?
@@BSU3000 fascists are very submissive
lol yes. There was a couple times it was clear he thought he had gotchas that probably sounded good in his head but were embarrassingly stupid.
I thought this guy had been on like a bunch of times before or do all these Nazis just sound exactly the same idk
@@ItsOgre all of his gotchas were like OH OH THAT'S THE JEWS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE JEWS!! Anytime a white person did something he doesn't like
"All of your actual points, facts, and data seem to be really daunting, but really, have you thought about all of the feelings I have and how they contradict reality?"
-Extreme Smoothbrain/Supernazi
Yeah, his feelings about white representation in the media were great. "But I'm filled with insensate rage about seeing nonwhite people pretty much every time I watch TV! So reasoning backwards, I'm pretty sure there's many more Coloreds in the media than white people. I can tell because my DNA makes my logic work real good."
@@cbowd One of my favourite pictures on the internet is from a Klan rally, with the man in the front holding a sign that sais "White, Proud, and with superior Jeans"
@@Nerobyrne lol. I mean, you heard this guy on "McDonalds and blue jeans"; he's got very strong opinions on the subject
@@cbowd I definitely got the feeling that to him “mostly colored people” on tv = every show has a cast with 1% non-whites.
he contradicts himself lmao
As a canadian, I'd like to confirm that the take of "no one in canada watches american television shows, we have our own television" is fucking LUDICROUS
A lot of these "race realist" start to sound the same, especially when they become defensive. Bumbling, irate, and hateful.
"You can't handle the minstrel show?"...Jesus Christ.
My grandma said that when she saw the Minstrel Show as a child, she couldn’t believe the Black people stereotype that they had, since she had a few Black friends by that point.
But imagine that; little children watched that show and probably laughed and cheered, not knowing how destructive such a racist character was to our society.
Nazis are concentrated, deep fried cringe
@@keepwhiningtankies3594 They need to maintain an illusion of superiority because they have none.
The “art is objective based on subjective beauty standards” argument made my head explode
Error: could not typecast Art as [constant value].
@@nukiradio Try ArtIsObjective
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As someone who is an artist, that argument also made my head explode. That guy doesn't know how art works and thinks that only renaissance paintings are art. Can you imagine if art was only the "based on real form" bs he talked about? The world would be so boring...
@@nftmonkey4506 I think a large reason that these types tend to dislike more interpretive works of art is because they are deeply unimaginative people
@@nftmonkey4506 The biggest interaction with art these people have is: A, "art threads" where at the end it´s just a circlejerk of how pure and epic white race is by painting these things. B, propaganda using roman/pagan symbolism with a marble sculpture. At the end, they don´t really care about art or the artist, they just want to feel better about themselves just for their melanin
Had a good laugh at a Canadian calling the USA culturally irrelevant.
It's still my instinct to get mad when people make fun of Canada, but frankly, American stupidity has infected so many people up here that I can only sigh and agree. Right now I am hoping the incoming rejection of fascism in the U.S. also spreads up here.
His little diatribe about nobody around the world caring about American culture was so out of touch. I think he assumes everyone in Europe is either 80 or some trad-fasch maniac who only consumes Vatican broadcasts and war matches as media.
You can hate American culture and think it's shallow, soulless etc all you want but to deny its absolutely massive influence on the entire world (especially in the West) is just asinine.
"Art is OBJECTIVE"
"For me though it depends on this specific thing and this thing and this thing..."
You heard it here, the Arbiter of all things Art Folks
At one point when they were talking about beauty standards the Nazi was saying it was objective and then when Vaush pressed him on it he said “it depends on who you ask.”
...that’s not objective.
@@joshholland90
He demonstrates that he doesn't know the difference between subjective and objective in this debate.
It is clear that he doesn't know what the word 'objective' means.
As an artist, that shit made a cringe so hard
Aren’t nazis against art? They find creativity not used for political advancement to be degenerate. God imagine living that reality
The biggest word this guy knows is “prerogative” and he says it every other sentence so we know he knows it
🥰
U can think Im anti smetic and dumb and use words to mean watever fits my agenda, that’s ur PREROGATIVE.
he literally said it as i was reading this comment lmaoooo
That's his prerogative 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Axiomatic has more syllables
I'm Canadian and we consume so much American content we had to make regulations to promote canadian content so out media culture didn't die.
I got so used to dogwhistles that it surprised me to see someone openly support the JQ
Yeah, I short circuited a bit. He forgot he wasn't supposed to say many of the quite parts out loud
he took of the mask and broke it in front of us
Well we all know how much these people hate wearing masks, so...
Same.
"A magic piece of paper doesn't make you a citizen," said the guy who immigrated from Florida and got a magic piece of paper to declare him a citizen in Canada.
Lol, wait, that guy's from Florida? I missed that. It explains a lot.
@@brandonm949 In the last one, he said he grew up in a trailer park in Florida. It explains a lot to be honest.
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This guy is just hateful and he’s spent a lot of time building a pseudo-intellectual and pseudo scientific shell around himself.
I hear Fox News is hiring…
Vaush: "The sky is blue."
Nazi: "Well that's your prerogative, but I disagree."
@@shovel_salesman
Wooooooosh
@@shovel_salesman
Normie lmao
It's funny because vaushs own philosophy is "truth is subjective" so he couldn't prove him wrong.
@@lymmy9609 Truth is subjective, imperfect view of the world and all. But that doesn't mean it's impossible or unlikely to get to an effectively-objective position. If it's indistinguishable from objective, then you might as well just call a duck a duck.
That's what a disagreement is; the acknowledgement that the duck has a goat's head. Then when you look closer, it also has a goat's body, hooves and horns. Now it doesn't match the description of a duck, now it's a goat. Without any reason to think otherwise, if it bleats like a goat, it's probably a goat. So, we ought to be siding with that and calling that 'objective' because it's the most constructive way to view the world.
The objective-subjective distinction is within independently-corroborated experiences. It's plenty easy to prove someone with this stance 'wrong' on a point they hold, because it requires that they hold the most accurate description of an object/phenomenon. If you find a more accurate description, you could correct them. Back on the goat; it's got hooves and fur, conclusion; goat. But another sees that it has antlers, new conclusion; stag.
@@Capybarrrraaaa epistemic moral anti realism is inherently absurd and not taken seriously by any philosophers. the fact that vaushites who know nothing about philosophy find it acceptable is sad.
I find it funny when straight male debaters claim Vaush is gross and objectively ugly when if you actually ask people who are attracted to men, he would fit the definition of having an ideal body for a lot of people. The idea that having bursting muscles is attractive is very much an ideal created by men
@@Logan-zv4xg And yet, woman are fine with that.
Sorry but, but if you think gains and skull shape will make up for being intolerable, it wont. and you will remain single
He would be perfect if he was vers but oh well
you realize this person is an actual nazi right ?
And vaush said the n word on stream
How can you consider yourself a moral person and support vaush ?
@@Logan-zv4xg Vaush literally had the dad bod standard down, a bunch of women and gay dudes are hella into that.
Straight men can sob about it all they want, it doesn’t make them right 🤷🏻
Also in Canada there is a STRICT rule against showing too much American broadcasting they can't get people to watch Canadian shows so they mandate it, this guy is absolutely insane
It's not a "strict" rule, there's a lot of commotion around Bill 11 (2022) again but it's really not going to be strict. Canada does totally mandate Canadian broadcasters to match Canadian output. But that can be extremely broad.. Sailor Moon is anime, but though the 90s and 2000s', it fell under the Canadian broadcasting act as "a Canadian production" because they had a couple canadians on the production team, they kept it up.
that hasn't changed, the standards of "what is Canadian" is pretty easily taken. The "strictness" comes from the mandate itself, if you take Canadian Arts subsidizes, Canada demands you to speak, talk about, be (as) , speak in our languages, ect.ect.ect.
I don't agree with it, I think if you want Canadian productions, you should incentize it with repayments or covering costs. I think the act can be used by bad actors to silence "non-canadian" individuals (don't know what that would be reasonably) by not providing otherwise accepted support.
there's no ruling against too American broadcasting tho, that's totally the motive behind this, but at least legally, its not true.
Even his view on art is the same as the "standards" the Nazis had. They burned everything that was not "close enough to reality" because it was "entartet" (Sorry, I don't know the exact translation for "entartete Kunst")
I think the commonly accepted English translation is 'degenerate art'. But yea, nazis haven't changed an iota on this shit in a hundred years, and it's usually one of the biggest alarm bells that someone's a cryptofascist when they start spouting 'degenerate art' talking points (qed, alt-right pipeline).
@@arskakarva7474 Thanks for helping me out!
I think it could be translated to something like "disartened art" or "nonart"if you take it literally
They actually didn't burn everything, fascists need the things they hate to be around in order to create an us vs them dynamic. Even the nazis held exhibitions to showcase entartete kunst to the wider public.
@@justchilling7712 "Entartet" is in a literal meaning pretty close to "degenerate", meaning that the subject it's related to has strayed "too far" from the idea of what it is supposed to be.
Vaush dismantled this dude so hard he really came apart at the end. One of the most impressive debates I've seen Vaush in.
What about when he said the n word on stream . That’s important cuz it shows vaush is really bad .... and sometimes people idolize vaush , calling him “dad”. And destint
@@arrsea1265 He's said the N-Word multiple times, in context mainly to counter his opponents (significantly further to the right) doing so as an intimidation tactic. Vaush has been publicly called out, cancelled and addressed this fully in his own videos. He has apologised for every instance of using the N-Word. Problematic behaviour in service of refuting worse conservative points is not the main problem to be focusing on here.
@@arrsea1265 get mad at the actual racists he debates.
He dropped the ball very fast early on, Vaush was good at making sure his defintions got challanged (because they're wrong).
But at the end, where he had too bring in "blood right to a nation" and "whites will become a minority" as if that's a bad thing by itself..
People like these guys are truely, absolutely unable to recognize their actual issue. They're just really insecure. That comes out in every issue they have with racism or goverment or women or anything.
@@arrsea1265 context.
I have never in my life from anyone say “We should deflate the currency” holy shit lmao
I admire his honesty
No seriously a debate is actually possible when someone isn't hiding behind 50 different proxy opinions
100%. I wish more people would go mask off. It would certainly make things easier.
That's honestly a thing I like about Québecois: they are often considered rude because of this, but they tend to be mask off. That's very useful because since our nazis, sexists, racists etc. are direct, it means they don't get platformed on mainstream media as much. Of course, there are SOME dogwhistles in Québec politics, but not as much. That's why our Trump got banned from the conservative party lol
@@Dekubud They are masked off because they never get called out for it. Quebec has normalized discrimination under blanketed terms of French pride or Catholic pride. The government even openly discriminates.
@Aditya Chavarkar sidenote wasnt the orange order only active in northern ireland
"I believe that you were raised around Jews" Lord have FUCKING MERCY. I can't stop laughing at this. Oh my god. The patience he had during all this bless you Vaush. This was fucking precious. He sounds like so many white guys I've met in Austin as a Mexican it's hilarious and frustrating all at once
I'm honestly surprised someone can say shitt like that in Austin and not get their shit faded back.
@@ObeyMyWaffles oh god no Austin is full of indifferent neolibs who say black lives matter but don't support affordable housing
Then there's the bullshit currently happening at Chicano Park. Whites angry over weekly car shows that is deeply rooted in our local latino culture because a new luxury apartment complex just sprouted up and God forbid the inconvenience of mexicans playing music.
These people don't get their shit knocked back because they know are way better at the ol dogwhistle
@@t.baggins8791 oh its not a paradise at all. In my head I was imagining op at a bar or something. But yea, Austin is a neo lib hellscape
I missed the part where he says this, can anybody point the exact time please?
Getting a racist to admit publicly that they are in fact a racist and proud is one of the trophies that any progressive debater should hold dear. Vaush did it! Congratulations!
"I wouldn't censor nudity in art" proceeds to present a highly stringent definition of art
basically according to him art is made by white people, anything else isn't art.
i think vaush’s take is wrong here. It’s very obvious when art is meant to be NSFW depending on how the creators intend you to consume it. Twerking is a dance, and filming a music video is art, but its obvious how its meant to be consumed. that, makes it distinguishable as nsfw art.
this is just my take anyway. for example a lot of old paintings feature naked people but i dont think you’re meant to consume them in an nsfw fashion for a lot of them. its just a symbolic artistic choice.
this nazi sees nsfw art as degeneracy probably and would like to seperate it and art.
Damn that ending was kind of disturbing. Seeing the racism, hatred and desparation become more and more apparent. Still very entertaining as always Vaush.
He broke down once he realized that memorizing a bunch of four and five syllable words doesn't make his stupid points valid.
Not even incrementally more racist. He just ambushed Vaush with the Jewish question with no warning.
Pete's sake, at 35:37, he was about to say 'people of color' but corrected himself to say 'colored people.'
This dude really said the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud. The jive turkey bit towards the end got me though lmao like he really thinks that's how the "Blacks" talk in the year of our Lord 2021.
JAMARCUS?????? Jesus christ
He said every part loud.
29:10 “I grew up around Jews and-“
“I believe that! I believe you grew up around Jews!”
He doesn’t even realize that this can only be a passive aggressive insult if you’re anti-semetic lol.
He seemed genuinely puzzled that people call him anti-semetic, but gave countless examples during this debate as to why those people are completely valid in calling him that.
He’s all about that nuance lol
Dogwhistles be like
It genuinly took this comment pointing that out for me to realize that was meaant as an insult.
"When my wife can take a DNA test..."
Dude, your long waifu pillow doesn't count as a wife.
There might be lots of DNA on that one tho...
@@TheFlauschig
Ewwwww
I doubt that pillow was not made in China
that was surprisingly entertaining.
i usually get second-hand angry very easily, but this dude was so hard to take serious, it was a real joy this time.
"don't put words in my mouth"
yes babe, you want him to put something else in your mouth. we all share that sentiment.
You can’t talk to someone who says “art is objective”. God bless you Vaush
"Art is objective!"
No its not
"Yes it is!"
Uh, is a bowl of mud art?
"No"
Why?
"Beacuse it's not pretty"
I think it's pretty
"Your opinion is just wrong! 😡"
As an artist, I couldn't believe anyone could be dumb enough to say art isn't subjective. I'm not a fan of postmodern art or cubism, but I would never deny their artistic importance or say their not art.
@@JGD44 same, i have my own self worth issues that make me look down on other peoples art because im projecting but even then i dont deny that its art....
The only thing that can't be considered art is conservative media and nothing will change that
“Canadian Nazi”
Eh, sorree, I don’t mean to be racist or anything, but you know, I gotta keep the white kids safe, sorry about that, bud, I hope you understand bud.
Edit: No clue why autocorrect thought I meant sorry when I said nazi.
Because they should be sorry lol
Canadian "politeness" is, and has always been, grossly inaccurate nationalistic nonsense. Not sawree btw
@@konitrix3166 was wondering the same ... from now Venezuela embargo that directly caused the death of dozens of thousands of civilians to avery action from mining corporations that ruins Africa also south American demise that Canada corporation could find a profit.
what can we say about the middle east ...
@@mypartyisprivate8693 While the whole think is absolutely exaggerated, Canadians do have a pretty strong norm for politeness, especially compared to where I am from. The issue is that the strong norm raises questions about how genuine these gestures are. Also, 'Canadian politeness' seems to be limited to direct personal interactions, not always extending to behavior behind the back or closed doors
It autocorrected because the word Canadian was used
I died when he said that whites immigrants were not immigrants but non white people were.
What astounds me about these individuals is how they think they and their ideology are the source of truth and everything else emanates from that. Just look at the way he defines art. To him the nudity in Michelangelo's David is unquestionably art but he was immediately skeptical of whether WAP was art despite never actually having seen it.
Why do this people keep coming back?? Is this a fetish?? Is he tricking us into non-consensually engaging with his kink
four chords / repetition over rhythm / mass production / studio backing : congrats my guy. you've described POP. shared by The Beatles, The Who, XTC, Kate Bush, Michael Jackson and Childish Gambino. it doesn't stop being art just because there's asses.
Literally
Elvis' early catalog was mostly 3-4 chord songs.
All of American music history is not music by this guys standards.
If he even has standards.
It mostly seems like anything he deems degenerate can't be art, and anything artistic that he likes is art.
@@SeanLaMontagne and his very rhetoric has cropped up with every musical revolution, from jazz to rock n' roll to rap and now modern pop. i love the parts of my family who will rag on all of the current RnB and hip hop artists like they're peddling crap to kids when they themselves grew up on Kiss or GunsNRoses.
@Lunar Orbit yeah Kate's awesome. arguably as diverse and important as Bowie. i would never use her artiness to dunk on Madonna, Gaga, Kesha or Cardi B of course.
@Lunar Orbit my step dad has been obsessed with Kate bush these past few months and I’ll just say she’s pretty great
@@SeanLaMontagne haha for sure. Hair Metal : the peak of 80s poetry and culture. (there's some good fun to be had there i'm moreso making a point)
I love when Vaush gets patriotic. No right winger speaks with such poetry "we are the sun around you all orbit"
fatal drinking game: take a shot every time he says "thats your prerogative"
Or any time hes a racist.
"National Socialism is one of the most truthfully feminist movements. It's half-joke, half-serious..."
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's all-joke, bud.
>National “socialist” >I should be able to do whatever I want on my property
Props for cutting off his shuck and jive, minstrel show impression. The argument was lost before it started, but he cemented it with that bullshit.
You know you're losing to Vaush when you have to resort to calling him fat. This kid ain't the first and I know for a fact he won't be the last.
"You're fat" the BTFO argument
Ah yes, the I, Hypocrite strategy, and how is that guy doing now?
The “we don’t watch American shows in Canada” is suuuch bullshit. There’s a good chunk of Canadian shows, but we watch PLENTY of American shows. When I was growing up, there were many cultural things that I saw in TV shows and thought “oh that’s just a TV thing” but turns out it’s actually an American thing 😂
Mic audio loud? Nah he was just screaming the whole time
Basically. Dude just has no sense of volume control.
@@benburke3015 both technically and vocally XD
Does this guy have a humiliation kink? Why did he come back for round two.
Narcissistic delusional Dunning-Kruger effect embodied to the fullest, basically.
Losing is Nazi tradition
Like a male version a katlyn Bennett
Right
I don't know about his kinks, but I'm starting to question if I might be a masochist...
If I hear " that's your prerogative " again I'm fucking killing myself
This dude makes my republican uncle seem fucking rational
me: "I hate clickbait titles where YTers capitalize certain words like 'CRAZY' or 'INSANE,' I wish we'd stop this"
also me: *only clicks on long Vaush debates when he calls the person "CRAZY" or "INSANE"*
Me: "This is problematic"
Also me: *Clicks Anyway*
*Fact*
"I don't think that's true Vaush"
There, I saved you an hour and a half.
No one in Canada watches American television or listens to American music because we have Canadian content?? As a Canadian myself, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a bigger lie.
Since I'm taking an Economics course as part of my college education, seeing this guy say that Deflation is a good idea makes me feel like there's a black hole in my chest.
Yea, he has a comparable grasp of economics and of racial/cultural issues, alike.
What you're saying is only valid when discussing economics based on the current models/systems. If you want to keep the fractional reserve system then yeah sure, deflation would be bad (for bankers); but when you put the treasury back in charge of money, when you eliminate interest rates/usury and when you manage the system properly; when you have something tangible to base your money on, you have an economic revolution.
@@michaelthurlow683 wheres the incentive to invest if youd earn more money sitting on it?
If it makes you feel better (late as I am), he was literally citing a pre-Hitler Nazi economist (Gotfried Feder) who was snubbed by Hitler for the post of Minister of Economics, and fired a year after his appointment as State Secretary at the Reich Ministry of Economics. Literally a Nazi economist who was fired for being too opposed to private banking for the Nazis.
Wikipedia describes Hitler's actual Minister of Economics, Hjalmar Schacht, criticizing Feder: "[Feder] aimed to curtail "private banking" and the "entire currency system." ... [Feder aimed] to destroy their entire "banking and monetary economy" [and Schacht concluded] that he "had to try to steer Hitler away from these destruction conceptions."
*edit: Other fun thing: he was an engineer (owned a construction company) who later claimed to be an economist despite lacking any evidence of even informal education or study. This is who this Canadian Supernazi was citing.
Canazi- "art has to represent form"
Jackson Pollock, Pablo Picasso, Salvatore dali- "are we a joke to you?"
Yes, they are because he’s got brainworms
Yes, yes they are jokes to me.
"Canazi" LMFAO I love it, what a degenerate clown he is😂
@@michaelthurlow683 Legitimately curious and not trying to pull anything but do you have a label for distinguishing the art that doesn’t attempt to represent form from what you consider actual art?
@@michaelthurlow683Yo, do you have a Discord account I can reach out to? I know it's been quite some time, but I would be willing to help coach you in utilizing better debate tactics and sources to support your arguments.
AS A JEEEEW, I always find it fascinating that nazis are more obsessed with knowing things about Jews than I am.
Nazis talking bout music production makes me wanna un-alive myself. None of these fools have any idea the sonic production that goes into even simple rap music. EQ, compression, individual instrumentation volume levels to get a good mix. Vaush is right there is an actual science to this
Being involved in the Synthwave and Vaporwave scene... I've heard their attempts at Synthwave and Vaporwave. They have a lot more to worry about than the actual technical stuff; they lack the TALENT to do it, any music Nazis make is just low-effort trash that's made solely to ride trends and push Nazism. It's not, and never has been, about making art for them.
He talking down about Rap music, but lemme open up ableton or any other DAW in front of him, he'd be STUCK. Just another dweeby trash talking snob lol
Reminds me of people I went to school with. “Playing the drums is easy bro! It doesn't take any effort, you just hit the thing with a stick!” and then you ask them to play something and they're stuck. You can't get these people to value art, their perception of what makes “good art” is incomprehensible.
I’m man enough to admit I used to think poorly of rap music until I learned all the actual effort and talent that goes into it (and unlearned some racism lol)
I don't know it just sounds like clicking to me. I guess it's the snare drum. Sounds like the same sample on every modern pop rap hip hop or whatever.
There are literally laws in Canada and Australia (and probably other places too) that require TV stations to show a certain % of native TV shows specifically because if they didn't have those laws there would be nothing but American shows on.
@@reyancap479 I should have time-stamped what this was in reference to.
There's a bit where the caller is popping off about how America has no culture and that people in other countries don't care about them, etc. He was talking about how irrelevant Hollywood is because he's pretty sure no one in Canada watches American movies or TV shows.
I've heard that Canadian radio has a similar rule
Yeah, but here in Australia most of our shows are terrible. We mostly watch uk and us shows instead. Because we’re in the commonwealth, we get the BBC.
@@reyancap479 Are you okay? You seem really eager to make a point no one was talking about. And I can't even tell what that point's supposed to be.
@@kevinb.2595 Starts around 1:07:00
Why does he constantly sound like he’s on the verge of bursting into tears?
That's just how all far-right Canadians sound
My favorite thing so far is how this dude’s basically arguing “why would the Greeks have statues of ugly people”
Why would the Greeks personify their Gods in such a way that did not match the ideal they believed in??? That makes no sense.
@@michaelthurlow683 That argument makes sense for someone like Aphrodite who represents beauty (among other things) but is a piss poor understanding of how other gods may be portrayed. For example Hephaistos was born lame so it would be kind of weird to portray him as the perfect idealization of the human form (whatever that is)
@@benjohnsonhorn Hephaistos is also the God of fire, fire does not just come into existence; it has to be made, either by man, or by nature; so it is no wonder the Greek God of Fire is lame, and therefore requires assistance to be whole; and yet every depiction of Him in statue form is of the typical Greek physical ideal. OOF. You are also aware that most stories dealing with that God describe his feet being crippled when he fell from Olympus, yes? What is the meaning behind that I wonder! LMAO.
Dude: *goes off on random racist tirade*
Also dude: "why did you mute me?"
>imagine being Canadian and saying America doesn't have worthwhile global influence
"I would not garner to call that art" a.k.a "thats not art because i dont like it" It's so insanely blatant how these kind of people fail to comprehend that there are realities/perspectives/feelings outside of their own and that their experience is not the end all-be all of the world, how brain numb
It's also very much like the nazis. They despised abstract art, for instance.
You know anything about Hume's Law? "You cannot derive an ought from an is" and conversely "You cannot derive and is from an ought"? The mere fact that people hold opinions or have perspectives bears no relevance to the objective nature of the world. If you view human feces as beautiful, or believe child at play is sinister then your subjective interpretation of reality is *wrong*; the fact that you hold an opinion isn't sufficient, in and of itself, to make that opinion worthwhile or meaningful. Your opinions can absolutely be wrong.
Michael came to provide evidence on why exactly he is wrong, amazing.
@@novelty_thief Have you ever seen the square and circle shadow cast by a cylinder projection? While the individual's subjective interpretation of reality may be "true" to the individual, it is not The Truth. The Truth exists irrespective of the individual's personal observations. The Truth is the object which casts both shadows. You have a moral duty as a sapient creature to pursue The Truth; not your own subjective, fallible understanding of personal "truisms"
Everything is objective. If you refuse to look for the Objective Truth, then you have to consign yourself to a delusional existence where your own fantasies matter more than the concrete superessence of the universe. You are free to ignore your place in the cosmos, but you won't The Truth in a fantasy world.
@@michaelthurlow683 Then is WAP is art? Why or why not?
I can’t wait for this guy to become a reoccurring character in the Vaush mythos
Please god no
Please have more of these insane people on, I devour this content. Its legit the perfect shit to hear/watch while doing some mundane homework
Vaush: makes good argument
Nazi: that’s like, your prerogative man....
Vaush saying what he wants or prefers isn't an argument? Saying "I prefer a multicultural society" isn't an argument for a multicultural society. "I want to live in a society that values happiness" is his prerogative lmao; I want to live in a society that has concrete goals and aspirations.
@@michaelthurlow683 as concrete as your vague, ghostly definition of beauty right?
Who says that Vaushs perogative has no goals and aspirations? A happy society IS a goal and an aspiration to follow because a happy, healthier society can thrive for ages. Together we are stronger, Vaush has a much better idea of a good Civilization than you will ever have. Despite his edgyness and occaisional bad takes in movies he at least helps people with videos like the Incel help and general Social advice.
Nazis offer only confirmation bias and useless aversion for anything that isnt them.
You don't even cite Plato right, you say you're subjective yet you claim objectivity at the end of the day.
You could write more Walls of Text to refute my point but I doubt you would say anything of substance that wasn't already disproven before or would even disprove me.
“Why did I mute you? Because I can hear you putting shoe polish on your face.” Lost it
"Europeans don't even think about American culture."
Amerika by Rammstein starts playing.
Vaush, everyone knows the only real art are sailboats or pictures of horses
I can't be the only one who thinks this guy sounds like an adult version of Ed from Ed, Edd, and Eddy lol.
Next time we'll see if vaush can get him to say buttered toast
He sounds like Hasan Piker
@@theangrycheeto no this guy is way more annoying than hasan lol hasan just sounds like a highschooler
You leave Ed out of this!
He sounds like a stereotypical stoner/surfer guy. He's like a Nazi version of Jeff Spicoli.
That escalated so fast, holy.
Oh boy, it was a blast watching this guy obviously just make shit up as the debate progressed. Wonderfully bad PR for the far right, and probably the funniest guy Vaush has debated ever.
Imagine not having the emotional intelligence to realise the things you don't particularly like when it comes to your taste - like certain art or music etc. Are the foundation of your ideology to hate anyone who participates in it.
This is literally a child's opinion
Holy shit that rant at the end
"You know exactly what I mean..." or "Are you asking me this rethorically...?" is often the first sign that somebody has been caught off guard, and has been asked a question they have never thought about.
If you are in a discussion, and you suddenly feel like your oposite is pretending that they don't know what you are talking about, try to actually EXPLAIN what you're talking about. And if you notice yourself stumbeling, you have to realize: You have just found an area where you have taken something for granted, without ever thinking about it. And that, then, becomes something you need to start questioning, until you have a more coherent definition, instead of this intuitive, vague gut-feeling you have been working from all the time.