How to Use a Gas Generator to Charge Your Tesla / EV / RV

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  • @wdbldr67
    @wdbldr67 9 місяців тому +2

    The afapter determines amps. If you had the 5-20 adapter you would gave pulled 16 amps and got 6 yo 7 mph on the 120 volt.

  • @falsedragon33
    @falsedragon33 3 місяці тому +1

    The reason this didn't work is due to the nature of the floating neutral in a generator, coupled with the fact that the charger is a GFCI device. If you bond the neutral to ground, you are creating a low impedance reference the GFCI needs. Just remember to unplug it before you plug it into the house. Multiple bonding points isn't so good. It would also be wise to bond the generator to the chassis or a grounding rod. This will help stop unwanted potentials from forming. It will also reduce the EMI the generator's inverter creates. Not sure how sensitive their equipment is, but generators create massive RF noise.

  • @pinkiepie1656
    @pinkiepie1656 Рік тому +4

    To folks who aren't familiar with electricity.......the ground lug on a generator does nothing for the functioning of a curcuit. What the car charging equipment is looking for is the neutral to ground bond.

    • @falsedragon33
      @falsedragon33 3 місяці тому

      It provides a path to a common ground. It will allow stray voltage that may end up on the chassis to flow somewhere. It also establishes a ground plane to help eliminate the EMI caused by the high frequency switching of the inverter. As this is all part of the circuit, it is indeed important.

  • @rickhop1417
    @rickhop1417 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you for explaining that. I tell my electric car loving friends you can’t charge your car if the power is out with your generator. now I can be the power god when they call and say your were right Rick.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому

      Haha - knowledge is power!

  • @iEditProjects
    @iEditProjects 3 роки тому +2

    We just picked up a model y yesterday and will be using 110V to charge. We also have had a model 3 for about 16 months and the 110V has worked just fine. If my math is correct we can charge at a rate of 840 miles per week which is plenty. Yes it's slow but it works.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому +1

      For the first year or so I only had 110v and didn't have an issue until one week in winter when I had to drive over 100 miles a day. I had to hit a supercharger after a few days...
      You'll need to use another circuit in your garage for the second Tesla, however.

    • @iEditProjects
      @iEditProjects 3 роки тому

      @@mmark300 Thank you for the reply. Right now they are simply sharing one charger, charging one at a time. I know it’s not ideal but I’ll try it for a few days and check back in.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому +1

      @@iEditProjects FYI - your garage door opener should be on a different circuit than the rest of the garage, so if needed, you could use that outlet for one of them.

  • @PBJelIyTime
    @PBJelIyTime Рік тому +1

    Would this work using a bonding plug and instead of the 120v outlet use the 14-30 generator outlet so that you could use a 30 amp generator cord (using an adapter for the Tesla 240v (14-50 to 14-30 adapter) or alternatively plug the Tesla 14-50 directly into 14-30 adapter and into generator (advantage of the generator cord is being able to place a noisy generator further away). Would either of these methods work so you could charge at a faster rate (24 amps per adapter safety specs) than 120 outlet slow rate?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому

      In this case, I think my generator really can't supply much more than what I showed - maybe 30 amps at 240v. And using the Tesla mobile charger at 120v, I'm limited to it's max, 32 amps.

  • @NYRM1974
    @NYRM1974 Рік тому +2

    Electric cars 100 years ago had this problem. If I recall Excide made the batteries for cars like the BAKER and BALDWIN EV cars. Batteries at that time allowed you to swap out and get a new one. But today I feel we need to further develop synthetic fuels for cars. We already have synthetic oil why not fuel?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому

      One day, one day...

    • @NYRM1974
      @NYRM1974 Рік тому

      @@mmark300 well if you ever looked at the documentary Who Killed the Electric Car it showed a segment in which in the country Brazil a bio fuel development program going on since the 1970s which is still in existence even today in the country of Brazil. The whole moral to this is that synthetic fuel production can be achieved its the Democratic left that holds back its development.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому +1

      @@NYRM1974 What makes you think the left is holding up synthetic fuels? Wouldn't this field be much more prevalent somewhere else on this planet if they were viable?
      Which party supports big oil and coal?
      And which party denies climate change, supported pulling us out of the Paris accord and slows all of the green new tech?

    • @NYRM1974
      @NYRM1974 Рік тому

      @@mmark300 learn about Stanley Meyer and his hydrogen dune buggy. And ask yourself why was he silenced? We have synthetic oils how come we don't have synthetic fuels think about it ask yourself why they never went forward with biofuel production however in the 1970s the country of Brazil Pioneer biofuel development and they still use it today. Weed the United States a superpower still living in the Dark Ages. Remember an electric car has to charge up. I own a 2004 Chevy Trailblazer but that can also run on ethanol and during Hurricane Sandy I had no problem getting around. And when you have a power grid that goes out how you going to power an electric vehicle think about that.

  • @FredCooper-en1sd
    @FredCooper-en1sd 11 місяців тому +2

    The ground you need it to the car, not the earth. Remember the car is on rubber tires.

  • @murda2999
    @murda2999 3 роки тому +6

    This does show that if you ran out of power a few miles from home or a charger, there is now a way for somebody to come and connect to your car to give you enough power to get you going again.
    A generator and bonding plug can be the equivalent of a little can of gas.
    Right now if you run out of power, you need a flat bed tow to take you to a charger.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому +5

      Yes! I already believe that wherever you are, you are closer to an electrical outlet than gas. With this option there are even more choices. On road trips I bring my charging cable, 110v and 220v plugs, a 12g extension cord and now this bonding plug.

  • @spencerpieters5502
    @spencerpieters5502 Рік тому +3

    I bet your neighbours appreciated the sound of that generator.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому +1

      I know... I did feel bad about the noise and is why I started using those plywood baffles to lower the impact

  • @jimmyl8332
    @jimmyl8332 3 роки тому +5

    a power inverter generator with bonding plug works!

  • @RICKYDUVALL
    @RICKYDUVALL 3 роки тому +4

    Could be because it requires clean sine wave electric? Maybe it just needs clean power

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому

      Could be that or it's just not able to quickly output increasing amperage to satisfy the Tesla. I would have liked to compare it to a higher quality generator...

    • @EarlBalentine
      @EarlBalentine 2 роки тому +4

      There's a special plug you can buy on Ebay, it's called a grounding bonding neutral plug. Generators have a floating ground and Tesla charging system doesn't recognize it, but with the special bonding plug it will charge.

  • @samlocke2338
    @samlocke2338 3 роки тому +4

    I have a Generac XP10000E 10KW portable genset. The generator would not power my house as there is neutral/ground bond internal to the generator. I disconnected this neutral/ground bond and now it will run my home (that already has a ground). A neutral/ground plug should make my generator able to charge an electric vehicle. Distortion on my XP10000E is

    • @emaes2
      @emaes2 2 роки тому

      @fladave99 Mills nobody cares about the planet its about saving money and portability to travel off grid. Who cares.

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 2 роки тому

      wr9ng

  • @professionalguy9346
    @professionalguy9346 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video 🎉

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 2 роки тому +2

    Is there any concern that your generator may not be a "Pure Sine Wave" and maybe a "Modified Sine Wave"? Can the non-pure sine wave damage the electronics of the Tesla?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +1

      Not really because if the tesla detects a sine wave, or any type of signal, it doesn't like, it won't try to charge with it.

    • @benkanobe7500
      @benkanobe7500 2 роки тому +2

      @@mmark300 Good to hear. It of course Wants to detect a pure sine wave. I just have an older HONDA 6500 that is modified sine wave and didn't want to risk my Tesla plugging into it. I do have a HONDA 2200i that is an inverter generartor that is pure sine wave and so can slow charge on that in an emergency. Thanks!!

    • @aboon1312
      @aboon1312 Рік тому

      How Can you make Ground om Honda inverter?

  • @drrobotnikmeanbeanma
    @drrobotnikmeanbeanma Рік тому

    Them electric stoves that has a 220 line can you plug it into a gas generator into the 220 line and get the electric stove to start ?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому

      Yes, just have to make sure the generator is rated for enough power.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 2 роки тому +2

    Great idea on what to do with old gas!

    • @allaboutroofing2
      @allaboutroofing2 2 роки тому +1

      Not if you care about your generator. Gasoline contains at least 10% ethanol and ethanol attracts water molecules from the air. While it may run, it will usually misfire a bit and will run hot. Gas with 10% ethanol lasts about 6 months, maybe a year....after that dispose of it. Hopefully he turned off the fuel and ran the gas out of the carb before storing it...I extract the gas from mine and run it dry prior to storage and put the gas in my truck while it's still fresh. Buy gas as needed or buy non ethanol gas (sold at mavericks or Murphy's for about the same price as premium) and put stabilizer in it. You can store gas for a few years this way.

    • @benkanobe7500
      @benkanobe7500 2 роки тому

      @@allaboutroofing2 Thanks. He didn't mention if it was ethanol free or not. From my experience, it had to be or it just would not have run. I run Avgas in all my stuff as I am a pilot and just purchase extra fuel for my generators, tractors, chainsaws, weedwackers, ......... That fuel lasts decades (just like gasoline from when I was a boy).
      You can remove the ethanol from fuel by just adding water and shaking it up. Ethanol has an affinity towards water and so it combines with it. All the ethanol settles to the bottom of the tank (I use 5 gallon glass bottles). You then siphon the ethanol free gasoline off the top and have gas that lasts many years. I add a little octane boost due to the loss from removing the ethanol.

  • @williadawilliams
    @williadawilliams 3 роки тому +1

    good trail and error. and ways of thinking out of the box.

  • @ronmoz5815
    @ronmoz5815 3 роки тому +1

    thank you sir for the information

  • @clee666
    @clee666 Рік тому

    Can we power the fridge from the Tesla?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому

      Not without some serious hacking.

  • @nicholasplesko533
    @nicholasplesko533 2 роки тому +1

    Can you charge an ev with gen, while driving?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому

      Unfortunately no, only hybrids can use their motor to charge the batteries while the motor drives the car. Otherwise we could just pull trailers with big generators :)

    • @EarlBalentine
      @EarlBalentine 2 роки тому

      @@mmark300 I think Tesla recognizes the charging door is open and will not let you place the car in drive.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому

      @@EarlBalentine I guess it could be that simple but it seems that someone would have tried bypassing the door sensor at this point. I'm guessing they have another more sophisticated check.

  • @rjames7380
    @rjames7380 2 роки тому +2

    I removed the bond for the ground on my generator. I then put the generator in the trunk ran the exhaust out & hard wired it up. I can now drive all day for only 5 bucks of gas. Haha. Broke the system 🔥

  • @mikey-joecaudell8808
    @mikey-joecaudell8808 3 роки тому +1

    I'm curious what gas mileage is like using the generator only to fill up the car. Would 5 gallons be enough?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому +5

      It depends on what you mean by 'fill up the car', but from a 0% charge, not even close.
      If we were able to max this generator out at 6,000 running watts, we would be able to turn it up to 25A, which would charge the car at about 16 miles/hour. The tank holds 7 gallons and says it will run 5.5 hours at a full load. 5.5 * 16 is only 88 miles... The Tesla model 3 is rated at about 300 miles on a full charge.
      So this would be a very expensive method to fill this car up. From 0% to 100% (0-300 miles) would take almost 24 gallons of gas and cost ~$72 based on $3 per gallon of gas.
      Plugging in would be WAY cheaper. 75kWhr battery * .135 = $10.125 (.135 is ave cost per kwh of electricity) Inefficiencies would add another 10%, so a little over $11.

    • @armadilllo
      @armadilllo 2 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣generator putting out 100 times more smog than a modern car

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 2 роки тому +1

      @@armadilllo wroñg

    • @armadilllo
      @armadilllo 2 роки тому +1

      @@sharonbraselton4302 right

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому

      @@armadilllo Operating a new, average portable gasoline generator (~3.5 hp) at an average load of 1.8 kW for 1 hour emits as much smog-forming pollution as driving an average passenger vehicle for about 150 miles.

  • @arecibo1974
    @arecibo1974 3 роки тому +2

    6,000 watts divided by 240 volts = 25 amps

    • @charlesdean9178
      @charlesdean9178 7 днів тому

      Yeah, it has enough power to fully charge within 8 hours. He forgot to manually throttle up the generator to increase the current. Can't rely on the generator engine governor to compensate that.

  • @billbutler6926
    @billbutler6926 2 роки тому +1

    My 2020 Ford Edge Titanium gets 28 miles to the gallon. 7 gallons gets me 196 miles. With the Generator and its 7 gallons I get 115 miles in a Tesla using a generator. And if it is aa emergency you will not be having this in your trunk! Yeah go electric. I was in the Army for 20 years and now I remember why I do not like green! LOL

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +4

      What you say may be true except that the point of this video wasn't to suggest that using a gas generator was a good way to charge an EV. This video was just to show that a generator can be used to charge an EV and to show that it's not as straightforward as just plugging it in.
      Also, I think your Edge only gets about 21 mpg combined city/hwy.

    • @billbutler6926
      @billbutler6926 2 роки тому

      @@mmark300 it is my car. I know what mileage I get. It is displayed on the dashboard. I used to drive across the southern Desert from St. Louis to Long Beach every week. I had two 5 gallon cans of gas and extra water. What is the max distance a Tesla or most any other electric be operated before it runs out? Will there be stations every 200 miles? Also yeah you can charge a electric with a generator that uses gasoline and oil. By the way the grease in the bearings and other moving metal
      Parts are made from petroleum products. Mobile synthetic oil will help. But buy a Prius. Much better solution to electrics. Well until it is time to replace the batteries.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +2

      @@billbutler6926 I'm only relaying what Ford says the Edge gets COMBINED mpg (Up to 21 city / 29 highway). So the Tesla 3 is rated for the equivalent of around 131 hwy / 145 city. Just like ICE cars, the Tesla could get a lot more mpg or a lot less. The rated range is somewhere around 270-350 miles. There are superchargers everywhere and even more level 2 chargers.
      Go to www.tesla.com/supercharger, scroll down a little and click on 'Find Us'. This is what really separates Tesla from the other manufacturers. I have taken a couple 2000+ mile road trips and had no worries. I also brought the charger and an extension cord just in case. You are always closer to an electricity than gas.

    • @billbutler6926
      @billbutler6926 2 роки тому

      @@mmark300 so Ford inspected my Edge and what? I have paid about $500 to make my SUV much more efficient than your average Edge.

    • @billbutler6926
      @billbutler6926 2 роки тому

      @@mmark300 never said anything about other Fords and the very accurate reporting on the EPA estimates on the invoices.

  • @Sian37
    @Sian37 Рік тому +1

    Stick it in the trunk just in case you ran out of charge on the road.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому

      While mine is way too big for that, it is somewhat of an option

  • @professionalguy9346
    @professionalguy9346 2 роки тому

    If you did the same thing to a 240 line modified ground first plug 240 Tesla charger second ⚡️

  • @redbeardseance2366
    @redbeardseance2366 2 роки тому +1

    Lol the Irony of all this.

  • @DanWebster
    @DanWebster 3 роки тому +1

    you could take you gen with you on long trips, you get out middle of nowhere and boom you got back up!

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому

      Yes!

    • @billbutler6926
      @billbutler6926 2 роки тому

      @@mmark300 Boom you are back up? In 5 hours maybe.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому

      @@billbutler6926 How many miles do you need to be "back up"? If you only need a few miles then you'll have them in 10 minutes.

  • @wandameadows5736
    @wandameadows5736 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe one day Humans will advance to having fuel station's anyone can pull into & in 5 minutes get enough fuel to go 300-500 miles. Wouldn't that be something?

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 2 роки тому

      qr8ng

    • @pinkiepie1656
      @pinkiepie1656 Рік тому

      If you like putting $80 in everytime you fill up. Also, how many hours of your job does it take to do that "5 minute fill up"? LoL:)
      Takes me 10 seconds to plug my car in overnight, which happens to be when my electricity is half off.

  • @garyballard723
    @garyballard723 2 роки тому +2

    Gas generators for green vehicles because the power grid is antiquated at best with a small percentage of vehicles in use, and you can only charge at certain times of the day......LMAO....imagine the impossible demand on the grid if everyone drove one.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому

      Grids vary across the nation, with California and Texas being the worst as far as I know. No where else do I hear of being forced to charge at certain times. Of course, most EVs are charged at home at night anyway... It sure beats having to stop at gas stations. However, prepping for the next 10 years, or so, will only involve an additional 30% increase in grid capacity. While that is significant, it's very doable.
      And which would you rather burn, Saudi oil (gas cars) or American coal, nuclear, etc (EVs)?

  • @muchohandyman2562
    @muchohandyman2562 2 роки тому

    This is hilarious should've used your tongue to find the neutral lol

  • @737T1C130
    @737T1C130 3 роки тому

    They should make electric cars with gas generators built in.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому +4

      They have, they're called hybrids.

    • @737T1C130
      @737T1C130 3 роки тому

      @@mmark300 I thought those were just gasoline powered cars with electric motors.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 роки тому +2

      @@737T1C130 You are correct in that hybrids are more gas car than electric - I was more or less joking. It does seem like an electric car maker could make kind of small, efficient, built-in generator, but it is a pretty big add-on that would require gas and all kinds of additional safety regulations as well as EPA requirements.

    • @iurhviusdfavhi
      @iurhviusdfavhi 2 роки тому

      Its the BMW i8 that has both a gas and electric motor with different modes to take advantage.

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 2 роки тому

      Cut out the middle man, buy a car that runs on gas.

  • @mjt7231
    @mjt7231 2 роки тому

    They should invent cars that run on gas and then have a component that charges the battery. This way you don’t have use the generator.

  • @robertwolfe2971
    @robertwolfe2971 2 роки тому

    Your suppose to block the ground off.tesalas don't charge with a ground.

  • @FrankE.Stein-nh2mm
    @FrankE.Stein-nh2mm 2 роки тому +1

    This is the literal definition of an oxymoron

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +1

      Haha, yeah, if that was the only goal.

  • @MegaSilvor
    @MegaSilvor 4 місяці тому

    Elon Mosk is working on putting two high-efficiency electricity generators on the market, one diesel and one gasoline with a trailer, so your cars will never lack electricity and we will have clean air.....and he will have more money......

  • @stuartmenzies3928
    @stuartmenzies3928 2 роки тому

    Turn down the Amps

  • @lomed
    @lomed 2 роки тому

    Hello

  • @regularpit1508
    @regularpit1508 2 роки тому

    If it's not pure sine wave that may not be a good idea although it is a Tesla so I may need a little abuse.

    • @domg7359
      @domg7359 2 роки тому

      It doesn't need pure sine power, it has an onboard charger that can take very dirty power and condition it. It will stop charging if it detects more than it can handle as shown in the video.

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 2 роки тому

      qrong

  • @ryamelp
    @ryamelp 2 роки тому

    Owns a Tesla, records on a potato. No disrespect. Good video.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +1

      Haha, yeah - videos are improving over time.

  • @dioworld
    @dioworld 2 роки тому

    put this in the trunk and let it run and charge, turn taxi-la back into gas car

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому

      Too bad the Tesla won't drive with a charger plugged in...

  • @CommandoJenkins
    @CommandoJenkins Рік тому

    This defeats the purpose of not using gasoline.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  Рік тому

      Yes, if done all the time, but that's not the point here.

  • @stuartmenzies3928
    @stuartmenzies3928 2 роки тому

    YOu may be lucky to get 12A and no more.......

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому

      Did you watch the whole video? You could have even skipped ahead...

  • @noelleonard2498
    @noelleonard2498 2 роки тому

    😄😄😄😄

  • @doaudi1720
    @doaudi1720 11 місяців тому

    Evs double the damage to the environment
    Constantly needing fuel to charge 1200lbs of china batteries

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  11 місяців тому

      Double damage? Not true.
      Depending on where you live will determine the type of fuel needed to charge. Some of this fuel is still dirty, some is very green.

  • @ARNFjB
    @ARNFjB 5 місяців тому

    This is literally one of the stupidest things I have witnessed in my lifetime that this is where we are at in the world. Gas Genny to charge electric vehicle. At least use the nuclear power to charge it my god

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  5 місяців тому

      @@ARNFjB This is literally one of the stupidest comments I have witnessed in my lifetime. You didn't pay attention to why I did this or to why this may be valuable to know how to do.

  • @gregorteply9034
    @gregorteply9034 3 роки тому

    😂

  • @armadilllo
    @armadilllo 2 роки тому +3

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣clean air vehicle, generator putting out 100 times more smog than a modern car, you lefties crack me up

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +1

      A lefty is a person who would rather put old gas to good use instead of disposing of it?

    • @armadilllo
      @armadilllo 2 роки тому +1

      @@mmark300 no a lefty is someone telling us how clean EVs are then burning gas from a generator with no emission control🤣🤣🤣

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +3

      @@armadilllo Have you actually watched the video or do you just jump on every EV video comment section to call people lefties?
      Watch the whole video to see if I tell everyone how clean EVs are.
      Then tell me who sells a generator with emission controls.
      Then tell me a better use for old gas.

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 2 роки тому

      wribg

  • @alexmaccity
    @alexmaccity 2 роки тому

    good thing internal combustion engines will be regulated out of existence. I love radical progressive change to save the environment.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому +1

      Sounds to me like people (politicians) are trying to scare you, but maybe I'm wrong. Please tell me which radical progressive regulations have been imposed that are harming/scaring you.

  • @jkn2k
    @jkn2k 2 роки тому

    Looks stupid nowadays.... With respect

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  2 роки тому

      How so? Is there a better way to dispose of my old gas?

  • @Cubano1986
    @Cubano1986 Рік тому +1

    Wow so green 😂