The End of Giga Coasters
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2021
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Gigas are some of the most beloved Coasters out there. Whenever someone is asked about a dream coaster at their home park 9/9 times they're gonna say a giga. But sadly, I think the Giga is on its way out, and in this video we dive into why...
Big Thanks to these channels for the footage
PortAventura
Coaster Thrills
Carowinds
Cedar Point
ElToroRyan
X Coaster
Kentucky Kingdom & Hurricane Bay
Chance Rides Manufacturing Inc.
KingsDominionTV
Jake Anderson
Busch Gardens Williamsburg and Water Country USA
Six Flags Great America
Sean Flaharty
Universal Orlando Resort
Busch Gardens Tampa Bay & Adventure Island
HeideParkResort
Walibi Belgium
Stubwood
Kings Island
Knott's Berry Farm
Worlds Of Fun
Coaster Hipster
Hershey Park
Airtime Thrills
Six Flags Great Adventure
Energylandia
Mack Rides
HANSA-PARK
Amusement Insider
Songs Used in this video:
Tribe Instrumental - Bas ft. J. Cole
BANKROLL Instrumental - BROCKHAMPTON
Studiopolis Zone Act 1 Lights Camera Action - Sonic Mania OST
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clicking on this video not knowing anything is like alien talk
It's like when you listen to guys talk about fighting games it's like wow I know like half of these words
um uh second
@@vaughnrudy8084 that's true
i feel like i've been introduced to a whole new world
@@dreahope_ you have and it is epic
Coastoons: "There isn't anyone left who could afford a B&M giga"
Energylandia: "bet"
Their next 3 coasters will be a Giga, a Strata, and a 500 foot T-Rex and they’ll be like “Ehhh, it’s a slow year for us, so Rey we couldn’t get anything better”
Or a park in China
I noticed they have purchased most of their coasters from manufacturers based in EU countries. Rather unfortunately, B&M is based in Switzerland, not Liechtenstein like Intamin. The only big exception to this is Zadra, which was made by RMC, who is based in USA. The only thing I can say to explain it is that the US is a EU ally, but so is Switzerland through many deals, so idk.
@@bandmfanboy i think Vekoma was given the contract to build RMCs in Europe
@@johnfoltz8183 Yeah, but RMC's track was built in the US. Also, that adds more to my point that Energylandia only goes for EU manufacturers.
What do you mean the end of gigas? My planet coaster park just got one and the guest love it!
Lol
Im going to start building my first because I just got the game
Dang, I went for a hyper instead of a giga because I would make a giga way too crazy and all the guests would be like "naw that's too intense". What did you put to make all your guests love it? All of my best coasters from an enthusiast's view are the least popular.
@@bandmfanboy relatable lol
@@bandmfanboy It was mostly a joke. I mad a tRaVIs sCoTt bnm giga with an inversion in sandbox mode so I dont know if quest would even like it. I never opened it.
1st of all: I like Rollercoasters
2nd of all: What the heck is a Giga?
A giga is a type of roller coaster. A giga means it’s 300 - 400 ft. But don’t mistake it for the steel type.
A roller coaster over 300ft
Over 300
@Keptix is the only one right. A giga coaster is a roller coaster 300-399 feet. 400 feet or more is a different kind of coaster
@@blansky9360 400 to 499 is a strata
Imagine a giga at Phantasialand but it’s all underground due to their height restrictions. Flying past beer kegs or whatever at 90mph sounds fun.
Lol I bet the whole of Phantasialand could fit in the spot where MF or I305 sits xD The coaster would be bigger than the park
yes that will be awesome
Or at Alton Towers, but all underground.
Why do they have height restrictions ?
@@ArrowThrills local governments don’t want the city skyline to be littered with supports and Alton doesn’t want the towers or land around it to be ruined.
All of the gigas I’ve ridden(the three B&Ms and MF) are in my top 15. Despite hypers becoming more like gigas, there’s nothing close to the feeling of flying at 90MPH close to the ground elegantly. Also the rarity of them makes them feel so special.
im sorry matey you’re should not be on youtube it’s illegal in your country
@@coasters4life388 what
@@Puffa_ he lives in china youtube is banned there
@@coasters4life388 Chinese people have VPN's too.
@@overbeb VPNs are illegal for Chinese people
Legoland NY is 90 minutes away from me. I would gladly buy a season pass for i306 when the park opens
You really can’t go wrong with a B&M hyper...
Techincially all B&M Giga are classified as hypers by B&M
@@zack9777 Everyone-That’s a nice hy-
B&M-Giga
@@kawaiikeith1190 was just saying B&M doesn’t classify as different models
@@zack9777 yeah I know, I just found that funny
Facts. Parks don’t need a giga. As long as you have a coaster that towers the rest, it doesn’t matter if it’s a giga. Hershey could’ve built a giga instead of another hyper, but would it really make a difference?
A B&M giga at BGW would be a finish him moment to KD. They could call it smack down el ultimo and put it in the Spain section.
But that's the problem
B&M giga on BGW
BGW will be working with intamin,
Not B&M
Sea World worked with B&M at SWSD and if they were to build a giga, especially BGW it would be B&M and it would be a smackdown because the GP don’t like I305 but would love a B&M.
SFMM needs one, don’t even have a B&M hyper
@@5secondfloaterhill12 I agree. It needs a long traditional 200+ ft coaster. Goliath is way too short.
I read this as "End of Giygas" and was like, "Content on Earthbound in 2021?!" 👀
Giygas is the main bad in Earthbound that you have to defeat.
Still watched to completion. Good video. 👍
Lmao I thought the same thing
Mewto looking ass roller coasters
I thought the same
Watch Gröna Lund somehow Tetris a freaking B&M giga into their park.
I can see Dollywood getting a bm giga to round out their line up but a hyper would work just as well. Dont really see any other parks getting one.
@Ranuhé Oomen i actually got the idea from an eltoro ryan dollywood vlog, but its a good idea so multiple people probably have come to the conclusion.
They’ll build it 350 feet on a hill with 150 foot drop. Wild eagle had such potential and it’s does nothing with its terrain I can’t stand it.
@@billsskiefc it’s bc your body can’t handle to many stomach drops or g forces
I would be really excited to see RMC break into the Giga market. RMC always manages to bring something new and exciting to the table, so I'm sure it will be great. They already have been pumping out hybrid hypers, so I wouldn't be surprised if they design a hybrid giga relatively soon. The wicked mind of Alan Schilke could cook something crazy up, I'm sure.
I don’t we would see a giga hybrid, but a giga trex is more likely
i305 was my first giga and I absolutely loved it. It was my junior class trip in high school but high schoolers like intensity so it probably had the longest line all year that day
I've ridden two Giga coasters. Fury 325 and Intimidator 305. Both rank in my top 5 coasters. Personally, I would take a Giga over any other coaster model. I especially like the ride experience of Fury 325. Terrific first drop with a great sense of speed.
You should ride Orion before saying you want another giga...
@@superflyriri4153 I would love to ride Orion. I was suppose to go to Kings Island last year but then the Covid crap happened. I'm planning a Ohio theme park trip for 2022 and Orion is one of the main reasons I am going. I'll be going to Cedar Point too.
I love fury and intimidator. Everytime i go to carowinds i go stright to fury and hurler. Then I go to intimidator.
I’ve only ridden I 305 and Fury but since their the top two giga’s, I can say pretty confidently that their is nothing like the speed of a Giga.
A lot of terminology I don’t know 🙈 can you do a video on the difference between the types of rides, it looks like cossters to me
The term “giga” “hyper” “mega” and “strata” has no meaning outside the USA as everywhere else uses the metric system and the height marks for all those categories are quite arbitrary when converted to meters and don’t make sense.
Exactly, that is why Hyperion is under 300ft or 91 meters. It simply makes no sense and the only possible milestone thet would attract guests would be 100 meters. But would you trust Intamin building that after the flop of Intimidator 305? Anyways I rode hyperion front and back and can confirm it, as well as Zadra, is amazing.
Ok?
Ok?
I’d disagree with “has no meaning.” Hyper, giga, and strata were all developed in conjunction with Cedar Point, but the latter two were coined by European manufacturers, and most European coaster enthusiasts I know use all three terms regularly.
@@StamfordBridge no they aren’t - and no European park has ever used those terms to describe any of their coasters. You tubers trying to cater to American audience hardly qualifies as a general viewpoint of the average European.
If I started a coaster manufacturing company I would try to bring back coaster types that nobody builds anymore but people want.
Wait until someone builds a coaster with a 500ft drop. Imagine just going up a hill for over 1 minute.
The ultimate (rip)
at that point i’d just hope they do a lsm lift hill lol. imagine going up 500 ft at 50 mph
Falcons Flight?
"Knott's doesn't have room"
South parking lot: "I'm in danger"
Ok you are the most underwater UA-cam I've ever watched. I just found out about your channel
About 2 hours ago and I have not stopped watching
The only park I could see a b&m giga going to is dorney park. I know that sounds dumb but just listen. There's a lot of people nearby, great adventure and hershey are both around 90 minutes away. I also remember seeing in an airtime thrills video that they were almost as profitable as cga so it has a lot of potential. I doubt they have the space though, they're surrounded by other stuff, but they could probably fit one in if they wanted to
I'd say Hershey Park and Kennywood are more likely before Dorney. The state on PA has a height restriction on all rides with permits needed for anything over 200ft. Both of these parks already got permits. But realistically, Dollywood is the only park left that has potential for a giga. And it's great because the mountainside can help them avoid the height limit. Similar to Wild eage, the hill can be on the mountain and not go too far above the skyline. Similar experience to Phantom's Revenge and Orion. The drop classifies it has hyper/giga respectively
I don't think it's the state of PA blocking Dorney but more their local township as they're closeish to an airport. They have limits on how many tall rides they can have. I also do not think Dorney has room for a Giga right now unless they scrap Steel Force down the line. (And honestly, I think they're gonna ride that one until the wheels fall off. lol) Besides, Dorney will take anything they can get right now. lol And I think they're going to get their new wooden and probably another inverty coaster long before a giga is even in the convo.
I hate mondays but your videos make them better.
Great video! just gotta say thanks to all you coaster youtubers for the great content.
To answer your question at 1:55: no. Herschend has never worked with Intamin. I'm kind of skeptical that they will, but only time will tell. So many parks are fed up with Intamin for reliability issues and spare parts being very expensive.
This man completely misses the fact that Michigan Adventure hasn't had a new coaster in years and adding a Giga would draw a ton of people to the park, especially with it having the underrated Shivering Timbers
And they have LAND to spare.
@@OTownNews no kidding, they easily could build a record setting coaster there, with no hight limit to my knowledge and definitely space to built it, the sky is truly the limit
Omg I grew up spending summers in Muskegon with my family! I'm glad that Michigan Adventure still exists!
i doubt cedar fair will put any major investments towards michigans adventure because it would take away guests that’d otherwise to go cedar point from detroit
Hersheypark and Cedar Point
Those two could eventually afford gigas
nice job!
Hersheypark would have been a great choice at their height requirement messes it all up it's not the money Sheetz Hershey PA is the problem
Cedar Point has a Giga
Roflmao. Cedar Point has multiple Hypers, a Giga and a Strata.
@@sobczakcoastersinternation7705 I'm pretty sure he meant a brand new one.
@@CZsWorld I'm pretty sure he meant a brand new one.
I’m surprised you haven’t ridden one yet 😳 you’re gonna love it 😍 🤩 🎢 🙌🏻
i love coming on here every monday seeing a new coastoons vid
Dude I was at cedar point two days ago and milly broke a wheel or axel and I was at the stairs 😂
Geez, that hurt my feelings and I wasn’t even there! Do you live close enough for an easy return visit?
True story: Leviathan was suppose to go to Knotts
source/proof please?
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@@arctrooper6386 the fact that michigan's adventure got a giga before kings island should be proof enouth
i feel like the launched coasters are all the rage nowadays, especially those that are lower to the ground. Maverick at Cedar Point proved you can make an amazing ride without it being a record breaker.
Knott's Berry be like: hold my 🍺
Meh, I prefer hyper with giga elements anyways. Everyone's too caught up on who's gonna get the next giga. I'll take coasters like Kondaa and Candymonium any day.
I do love Intamin blitz’s. I haven’t been on Kondaa and it looks amazing, but Candymonium honestly felt like half of a ride, like it needed just 3 more elements to feel complete.
Candimonium and Orion 2 minutes each for CROSS CHECKING
About the Worlds of Fun thing...
CAROWINDS, the park with a mostly mid-tier lineup pre-2010s, got a B&M hyper and giga within 5 years. If Cedar Fair wants to grow a park, you know damn well they're gonna do it. I know Carowinds is in a special position - they've got a multi-metropolitan service region spanning two states with almost zero competition, and Paramount essentially left CF with a blank slate to work with there. I'm just sayin' though.
i mean Michigan's adventure got a giga and hyper, i think ceder fair is just going to give them to every park at this point.
2:05 says merlyn while playing the instrumental to bankroll. that earns a like
I want to see the love child of Silver Star and Blue Fire. That would be my ride of choice.
I rode Orion earlier this month. It was definitely one of my favorite rides.
I know this is a video about coasters but using the Bankroll beat in the background was a great choice
love this lmao def subscribed. i wanna learn more about coasters lmao I love having knowledge ab this shiz.
I was thinking worlds of fun and then you said that lmaoo😂
My only question finishing this video is how this man has a UA-cam channel about roller coasters and has never been on a giga.
There’s only 2 reasons why a park would build a giga.
Reason 1 is to try and get some attention in the “tallest/fastest” category. That’s a silly choice because A) Stratacoasters are a thing and B) i305 taught us that no matter what you build, it HAS to appeal to the GP.
Reason 2 is because you need that kind of momentum to pull off later ride elements. This is also, at this point, silly. LIMs and other launches are becoming so cost-effective and reliable that if anyone nowadays needs 90mph of speed, they’re much better off doing it with a launch. They take up less space. They’re infinitely cheaper and easier to construct.
At the end of the day. If you need to be tall, you probably aren’t building a giga. And if you need to be fast, you’re probably doing it with a launch.
You would be a fun guy to go to a park with. You have the planning, money saving, and time saving tips with history and information on types of coasters.
Gigas also take up a ton of room as well, and a park like cedar point is packed with rides and coasters which most likely would deter them from just shoving another giga in the park and taking out a bunch of other rides.
I could see a chain who wants to make a large investment in a park (maybe like a Thorpe Park or something) building a Mack Giga. I would be interested in seeing their take on a Giga. Who knows.
Thorpe Park had to make pretty large negotiations even building Stealth which is only 200ft, so no chance for them. Heide Park actually had plans for one but they fell through so if they have the money, they could definitely go for it
@@robcoasters how about excalibur?
I think we can see in the future more mega coasters because they do the same concept as gigas but cheaper
I wonder if we will ever see any park anywhere in the world try to out-do Kingda Ka at Six Flags for "world's tallest coaster" or if going that high can't be done.
the Kondaa rollercoaster is located in Walibi Belgium (south of Brussels). I rode it a week ago and it is awesome
Rocking out to the WoF shame even though it’s my home park
Wof may not be a top tier park, but it's really nice, and we're lucky to have it in Kc. Now if they could just find enough employees to keep all of the rides open this year🤔
@@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen agreed!! I went on a Sunday in June and there were lots of rides not operating. Timber Wolf was down all day. “Marathoned” Prowler with a 25 min wait
@@patrickomeara3700 Yeah, it sucks. I really feel bad for non-season pass holders. Sucks to pay for a single day ticket, only to have your favorite ride down for the day.
Luckily, I bought my pass last year, and they're honoring it in 2021 due to abbreviated hours in 2020. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for 2022 due to limited operating days and rolling ride closures. Hard to believe that they can't find employees.
@@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen same boat. Bought mine during fright fest 2019 and they were doing a deal that it’d be good for 2020 too. So I was fine riding Mamba and Patriot a few times and leaving but if i were on a coaster trip or something it’d have sucked
Why'd he have to knock Prowler though? 😂
Patriot is more of a clone of Talon, it's really nothing like Batman at all. And Prowler, isn't a Mystic Timbers clone, as it was built 8 years before Mystic Timbers. If anything Mystic Timbers is the clone just a more drawn out version.
I think it could go to Busch garden Tampa, regardless of the height limit, I feel like they could work something out
*cries in Worlds of Fun is home park*
Still a alright park though
i could see one of the busch gardens parks getting a traditional layout intamin giga if the next few years go well for them. It would definitely have more of a kondaa/hyperion type layout tho and they would go for the giga height level for the publicity.
Mans really gonna call Prowler a Mystic Timbers clone when it opened in 2009?
Seriously!
Coastoons “all the other cedars fair parks have a giga exept worlds of fun”
Valleyfair: am i a joke to you
A roller-coaster video is the last place I'd expect to hear bankroll but I respect it
I think B&M won't sell any for a while, but Maybe Intamin would try their hand at a giga. Great video!
Not a fanboy, but RMC absolutely changed the industry. After the 90s/00s coaster wars that were all about breaking records, RMC proved that bigger doesn't mean better and other manufacturers started following suit. I don't think there's any going back now. Parks know that they don't have to spend $30 million on a giga to get a crowd favorite that will keep people coming back for more. Breaking records just for the sake of breaking them doesn't bring the return on investment.
I could see some awesome gigas come soon
Coastoons: “And when manufacturers get a chance to go all out, it usually leads to great results”
Arrow: *visibly sweating*
Gerstlauer proved that point. I hope their record breaking coaster in US makes them prove it again
Most of the time. I'm mainly talking about Gerstluarer with Karnen, RMC with Steve and S&S with ejenika
@@Coastoons Oh no I totally agree with and support the statement, it’s just the first thing that came to my mind was flashbacks to X.
This guy likes sonic ost a lot! I love it as well!
Honestly I’m all for this. Personally, even though I do enjoy traditional gigas they get old really quickly. As someone who would regularly attend Carowinds growing up I remember thinking that fury wasn’t that much different from intimidator (the hyper that they built a few years before) other than being faster and taller (not to mention their cars and restraints are literally identical). I would rather ride a coaster with lots of inversions and other unique elements rather than a traditional giga that has none of that, and a giga with inversions would be the best of both worlds in my opinion.
Could you make a video about the Kondaa in Walibi Belgium
Wait, what is wrong with the Intimidator 305? Only Giga I've ever ridden, but it seemed quite fun.
Very intense so not very popular for GPs
"Kondaa that's already almost there" it'd need to be almost twice as high to be a giga lol.
I can't see it happening at a Walibi park to be honest. As you said, Walibi Belgium just got Kondaa. Rhône-Alps seems to be a smaller scale park and not really Compagnie des Alpes' favorite child.
Walibi Holland's Intamin Megacoaster Goliath does have a Gigacoaster-like layout, so perhaps if it needs replacing a giga would be a fitting upgrade. Though with the height difference between a giga and Goliath, the upgrade might almost be too big, if you get what I mean.
Maybe in the future, Walibi Belgium could add a giga to be the Milli to Kondaa's Maverick. That'd make the most sense if it were economically viable.
Maybe Europapark could build one too.
Btw, I don't know if you're saying "the parent company of the Walibi parks" because the pronunciation of Compagnie des Alpes might be hard. It is pronounced "come-pahng-yee days ahlps" with the "ah" pronounced like you're saying "ahhh"
I hope Heide Park gets Europes first giga. They have gotten so much of "Europes first/Germanys first" and there was a giga planned 20 years ago so it coooould be.
+ Merlin chain likes to set records, also visible in Coasters like the Smiler.
I hope they work with Gerstlauer again to set up Europes first giga one time
Going on my first giga(Orion) tomorrow!
i see you with the premier taste in music. shoutout bankroll instrumental 🤝
whats the map you used in this video?
I've been on the Fury 325!
I think the only reason people believe a giga could go to go to worlds of fun It’s because they have the land for it and also if Kansas City’s metro keeps growing like how Charlotte was when Cedar Fair started giving Carowinds investments then they may have to give worlds of fun something big just like they did by giving Carowinds fury. It’s not very likely at all but it’s something fun to think about especially since I only live a few hours from there
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We should call Coasters 500-599 feet exocoasters :O
This video is interesting but is there a video I can watch that can explain what’s the difference between a giga and a hyper and other coasters? I’m kinda new to this stuff
Gigas are 300 feet and hypers are 200 feet. Other than that there's really no difference besides the style of layouts
I know you said it was scrapped, but everything I’ve been hearing and reading lately suggests that BGW is still going ahead with the drachen spire giga?
TBH I like hypers more than gigas. All of the hyper or near-hyper coasters I have been on deliver a longer ride and it's not like they aren't fast. Plus hypers usually have a few more elements than gigas. Some have way more (Vengeance for example). Also the higher speed of gigas means that the pacing/flow/whatever must be slower, because you can only pull so many gs to get up into the next element.
Imo there's a goldilocks zone for coasters that feel fast, intense, don't end too early, and have consistent pacing/flow throughout. It's 100 to 250 ft. Ofc there are good coasters outside that but they are much rarer. Lightning Run is about the smallest you can go before you don't have enough speed to get a ride of decant length. While anything over 250ft is really fast but has length or flow issues.
"Giga coasters are too fast" is probably the hottest roller coaster take I have but I will stand by it.
Hypers are good.
No lmao the faster the coaster generally the faster the pacing that's how physics work. For example I-305 has pacing of about 100 ft/sec, while Steel Vengeance has pacing of about 60 ft/sec. Fury 325, a giga coaster more similar to Steel Vengeance, (elements higher off the ground), has pacing of about 90 ft/sec. Even if the elements are more drawn out to compensate for this, the faster coaster still will usually pull more forces.
@@GooseDuck-ft4ko I don't really care about average speed. When I wrote that comment I was using it to mean the progression of a ride, how fast it covers elements. There isn't really a good term for that. Besides, pacing is hardly a good metric for how fun a ride is. Formula rosa has an average speed of 120 ft/s. Steel Vengeance has an average speed of 78ft/s. But Vengeance has better flow, a better mix of elements. Is Formula Rosa 1.5x better than Steve? Hell no. Smaller, slower coasters can cover more elements more quickly, creating a more thrilling and dynamic ride.
@@nathonizamboni875 Yeah that's called layout bud. Not pacing. I-305 changes direction faster than SV and it's a giga. Not sure what you're trying to say here.
@@GooseDuck-ft4ko I305 has snappier transitions than SV but does not turn as fast. Baking changes can be fast or slow on any size coaster because roll rate doesn't depend on forces.
I think that if rmc goes through with the T. rex model six flags might put Giga’s in their parks. However I only see this happening if they are roughly the same price as a b & m hyper. Even if a hyper is too expensive for six flags I think they will see a payoff and go for it
BGT was rumored a giga out into the Serengeti a few years back, BGT doesn’t have any height restrictions
Valleyfair is a viable option people forget it exists and it’s owned by cedar fair. Or Michigans adventure
Bankroll starting when you mention Merlin? Great touch
I heard bankroll and I thought my music was going still in the background LOL
“millie is still an icon to cp to this day” is a weird ass sentence out of context bro
I’ve been on Fury it,s awesome
Knotts was originally supposed to get Leviathan but I don’t think it’s ever happening now that it’s at CW
I 305 is one of my favorite coasters ever so much fun!!
Since when is 164ft almost to 300ft or did I miss something
The point is that height doesn’t matter anymore. The regular person wouldn’t really notice the difference between Kingda Ka and red force. Just like most wouldn’t care that Orion is 80 feet taller than candymonium. That’s why kings island didn’t feel the need to go over 300 feet when they could just have a 300ft drop and still call it a giga
3:20 Prowler at opened 8 years before Mystic Timbers...
Thank you! Wof❤️
That brockhampton instrumental in the background. I see you bro
Busch Gardens Williams burg appears to be building something over 300 ft considering they requested a new height limit of over 350 ft. Maybe a giga.
The edit at 1:28 was an *instant* like and subscribe for me
come on six flags make the golden bear theatre replacement count
this question got a whole lot more real after the fury 325 crack
Just wanna comment to be able to prove that I was here before this channel hit a million :)
“Is there anywhere left that can afford a giga?”
Kentucky kingdom: hold my generic brand beer
merger made gigas possible at SFMM and SFGAV now
Clicking this vid after watching all the knotts giga videos
Just thinking about a 300ft infinity coaster gave me a massive vibration induced headache
3:51 this is the scariest part of Orion at Kings island lol
“Your logic is undeniable!”
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