Countering China in the Gray Zone: Lessons from Taiwan

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • How should Taiwan, the United States, and its allies in the Indo-Pacific respond to Chinese gray zone activities in and around the Taiwan Strait? Please join the CSIS Freeman Chair in China Studies for a conversation on this question with Freeman Chair non-resident Senior Associate Ivan Kanapathy, a key contributor to the new book The Boiling Moat (July 2024, Hoover Institution Press), edited by Matt Pottinger. Jude Blanchette, Freeman Chair in China Studies, will moderate the discussion.
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  • @edwardallangabor850
    @edwardallangabor850 Місяць тому +2

    One of the best discussions on this difficult topic.

  • @AlexisTurnette
    @AlexisTurnette Місяць тому +5

    Fix your volume levels

  • @jarrettbobbett5230
    @jarrettbobbett5230 Місяць тому

    Great talk wish these guys are on Twittter so I could learn more.

    • @amiigose
      @amiigose Місяць тому

      two guys only💩💩🤡🤡

  • @lluc9946
    @lluc9946 Місяць тому +2

    Ok. Summarize the whole interview into one sentence: more money for US military base😂😂😂

  • @robertprawendowski2850
    @robertprawendowski2850 Місяць тому

    ⭐️

  • @cglai6010
    @cglai6010 Місяць тому +2

    As a Taiwanese, I watch this with good amusement. For years we were persuaded to buy the US weaponry as we were told the Chinese self reliance defense strategy only ends up with inferior weaponry to counter us. Now we are told US can not make enough weaponry as there are too many wars. More importantly we will run out the foods and energy long before we run out of ammunition. As to the grey threat, we have been looking at this pretty haplessly with little to change. We see now US moving back to the second line leaving Japan, Korea, the Philippines to defend us, oh, maybe they will throw in the Australia. Interesting discussion.

    • @langbloch2840
      @langbloch2840 Місяць тому

      The US is very trustworthy 😂😂😂😂

    • @poophymix
      @poophymix Місяць тому

      Maybe your daddy is not your daddy 😂😂😂😂

    • @TheFlagUnit
      @TheFlagUnit Місяць тому

      There is no shame in surrendering. Peaceful surrender probably means China will develop Taiwan immensely. Fighting for the power of another country is not worth your one and only life.

    • @markolukin4331
      @markolukin4331 Місяць тому

      Don't buy into that B.S. The U.S has plenty of arsenal and I would bet weapons are being supplied on the down low. Why provoke China when they are already planning to invade. Same thing in Russia, not allowing Ukraine to strike targets in Russia with American built weapons. Yet, it's happening. Bad Ukraine! We said no! Really? All propaganda.

    • @markolukin4331
      @markolukin4331 Місяць тому

      China is bleeding itself out of existence. Noone trusts them anymore. They used the Belt and Road Iniative to act like they are gonna help out all these countries and those countries get screwed. Poor quality work, rediculous percentages and then they bring in the PLA. Bye bye China! I did not even get into demographics. It's not like they have 100,000 immigrants that want to move there. You are obviously a communist with that rhetoric. Noone who is free wants to be a part of that giant wasteland. Maybe you are Xi himself. Rediculous!

  • @BB1CC666
    @BB1CC666 2 дні тому

    I have an idea: How about investing more money in average Americans instead of fighting somebody else's war?

  • @Erik-rp1hi
    @Erik-rp1hi 11 днів тому

    Taiwan needs to show they have skin in the game. Otherwise Joe US public will not care and want their cheap stuff from china.
    2 month hold out sounds about right before Allies come to fight with the ROC.

  • @JB-jx5qd
    @JB-jx5qd Місяць тому

    Oh, you mean "Hybrid Warfare"

  • @kalipotmeng
    @kalipotmeng Місяць тому

    These people are soldiers of the American hegemony. Blanchette asks "explain the strategy importance of taiwan for the US". Answer:"let's talk about why taiwan is important for China". 😂 The US only wants to prevent china from getting what it wants. Pure imperialism. I'm disgusted by this conversation.

  • @goldengregory1
    @goldengregory1 Місяць тому

    Water canon for water canon, cyber for cyber, explicit reciprocity and escalation xombined with recipricol informational and salami this thing. We the advantage now. Time is of the essence.

  • @TheFlagUnit
    @TheFlagUnit Місяць тому

    i wouldn’t die for democrappy

  • @criticalthinking666
    @criticalthinking666 Місяць тому +1

    Such war mongering propaganda should be labeled as pentagon funded for viewers' discretion.

    • @aggressivecalm
      @aggressivecalm Місяць тому

      Water. Water is wet. War mongering propaganda?
      Stop trying to invade Taiwan. I'll listen to this 'War mongering propaganda' everyday of the week, rather than listen to Chinese aggression throughout the South China sea comrade.

  • @qingzhou9983
    @qingzhou9983 Місяць тому +2

    This guy is very misleading, intentionally or not. PRC has claimed Taiwan since 1949, because of the Chinese Civil War. So the talk of PRC wants Taiwan because of TSMC or strategic location in First Island Chain vastly underestimates the resolve of PRC to unite Taiwan.
    The talk of deterrence of PRC on Taiwan issue is like the British trying to deter American North in the Civil War. Impossible!
    PRC will match anything US do for deterrence and more. This is much more serious for PRC than saving North Korea in Korean War.
    I hope US will not repeat The mistake of crossing 38th Line.

    • @aggressivecalm
      @aggressivecalm Місяць тому +1

      😂Oh dear. Your bot needs an update!🤣

    • @cs2816
      @cs2816 Місяць тому

      This guy 👆is trying his best but falls short.

    • @langbloch2840
      @langbloch2840 Місяць тому

      ​@@aggressivecalmI think your IQ needs to update instead 😂😂😂😂

  • @Aard-p1i
    @Aard-p1i Місяць тому +4

    Ivan Kanapathy says this book wants to ring the alarm, but Quasimodo can't hear him over the thunder of city bells. Schrödinger's China is a mainstay of Western analysis. Both ready to crash and systematically dying. Maintaining an unstoppable cement roller of power projection, while fielding a flailing autistic diplomatic corp. Mourning the death a single soldier in Africa and ready to sacrifice a generation of brotherless children for a point of pride. Projecting expertly on the Southern flank of Taiwan yet floundering to develop blue water projection north of it.
    There has been no straw that broke the camel's back. The camel's back isn't broken. There is no book to be published now or later which change this paradigm or make real an ambition. Hawk's driving for capability increase the severity of miscalculation and set the timeline for it. The best time to fight the war was 70 years ago. The second best time is never.
    This book makes inflammatory claims, but the PLA is no Wehrmacht, Xi Jinping is no Hitler, and there is no actual prospect of Western appeasement. 10,000 US dead? Of course, two aircraft carriers will be sunk. Which is the only way this war can start. It remains to be seen whether Xi will decide two 9/11's is the appropriate punishment for US initiatives. Sea denial is too easy for both sides, much easier to wait for a DPP leader's sexual deviancy or corruption to unwind the Gordian knot.
    P.S. Matthew Pottinger is still the kinda guy who ploughs fields to make it rain.

  • @simonsu8879576
    @simonsu8879576 Місяць тому +1

    Hi, Ally. Where's your ambassy in Taiwan? Oh, yes. There WAS one, but US withdrew and cut off all the official relationships with Taiwan in 1978.

    • @cs2816
      @cs2816 Місяць тому

      It located here. Stop by anytime. American Representative Office in Taipei, Taiwan - No.7, Lane 134, Sec. 3, Xinyi Road - Da-an District - Taipei 10659 - Taiwan

  • @user-yw4rx6kb3r
    @user-yw4rx6kb3r Місяць тому

    There's a lot of salvia swallowing and pauses during this interview.

  • @johnwhoo6194
    @johnwhoo6194 Місяць тому

    Why do you still want to have a cold war? Why does it have to be I win you lose?!

    • @user-yw4rx6kb3r
      @user-yw4rx6kb3r Місяць тому +1

      It's the American mentality. You have to speak their language for them to understand.

    • @vaultsjan
      @vaultsjan Місяць тому +1

      @@user-yw4rx6kb3r Ever lived in USSR? Were its yearly hotwars better? Imperialism is dictators language. Stop and give me cupcake recipe.

    • @ofo101
      @ofo101 Місяць тому

      @@vaultsjan Imperialism may or may not exist. But hegemony in the true sense of the word clearly exists, and you cannot deny that the United States of America today has absolute hegemony over the world, just as Britain did in the olden days, except that the Americans of today use their hegemonic position in a smarter and more skilful way than the British of the past. Today's America is like a hidden slave master, distributing the world's wealth through its own preferences, giving easy access to its allies, and obstructing and sanctioning those with whom it has a hostile or merely competitive relationship. Everyone in the global dollar system has to accept this status quo, whether they like it or not.
      Iraq and Libya and Syria have tried to reject this threat from the US, but have been bombed and invaded, and even though they are so-called dictatorships, that is no reason to invade a country, not just because a country is a dictatorship, that is not a valid motive for going to war. Instead, they tried to opt for the use of the euro and gold respectively for settlement, which threatened the strategic system of petrodollars, and so a so-called war of democracy versus dictatorship was fought, which is the underlying logic of today's world, in which the United States has possessed absolute hegemony over the basic pattern of the world since the end of the Second World War, and in particular since the end of the Cold War.

    • @cs2816
      @cs2816 Місяць тому

      Ask Russia and China. They are starting it.

    • @vaultsjan
      @vaultsjan Місяць тому

      @@cs2816 But its called China sea, not Philippines coastal sea or something like that.