Ben 10 Lore: "Every time the current Ben meets his future self, his future immediately changes & that future version is no longer Ben's 'true' future." Omniverse: "I'm going to ignore that."
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
@@da-vidcargill4975 No, Ultimate Ben was said to be Ben's real future, so he certainly destroyed the prototype and probably made another Ultimatrix after years of using OV's Omnitrix. Furthermore, Paradox confirmed that OS 10k is from another timeline
In my head cannon Original Ben 10 k lost feedback (but) never took off his watch, the trauma of losing his favorite alien (his favorite part of himself) causing him to get more serious, I’d say he splits off from Gwen and Max when he was 12, casusing Them not to meet Kevin and reform him, kills Vilgax around 15 and imprisons Kevin in the Nulvoid at 16 leading to a different type of rooters arc
He then hinted that Ben will understand being a hero is not about fun. And Kevin didn't got cured by Kwarrel, he eventually got his Human form back but is still mentally insane.
Pretty sure it was implied the first Ben 10K became so serious because of Max losing his arm to Vilgax, who he then proceeded to beat to a pulp. He then distanced himself from everyone he cared about as a defense mechanism, putting everything on his shoulders.
The young Ben who appeared in the fight against Aggregor is also the Prime Ben of Alan Paradox. He erased his memory when he brought him back, but it seemed that he was still remembering what happened in the form of a dream.
all ben 10k were prime ben, but at one point in the prime ben's timeline he made a decision that caused those timelines branched off to become their own realities.
it's my theory that the timeline between the classic Ben 10k and UAF Ultimate Ben diverted the exact moment that classic ben learned that "sometimes its okay to go ben" and then took it literally where he never wanted to go alien
You also have to consider that ben 10k prob punched the timebomb because he knew how events would unfold since he already lived that as prime ben. If the ben 10k before him performed a similiar action, then he prob replicated that to have the most accurate future that would guarantee them the win.
For OV Ben 10k I think that the only reason he decided to attempt to punch the Chronosapien time bomb was to make sure timeline was kept the same or something like that
He had to remember and present Ben was destroyed that time so he couldn't know and he was clearly surprised so this guy is flat wrong yeah pretty wrong he wants to finish off canon
They are ALL Ben 10K Prime just alternate versions. OG Ben 10k being OG Ben without the time travel. Alternate universe is a completely DIFFERENT thing.
I think for ultimate ben, Azmuth probably didn't think he was worthy of the completed omnitrix for whatever reason, and then he later used his aliens to figure out ultimate ben and master control. As for the design the watch probably has an alter function?
It was never said anywhere that Ben 10k from UA never had the Omnitrix from OV, he may have had it and after years of using the Omnitrix from OV he made a new Ultimatrix, even because the Ultimatrix doesn't even look like the one that appeared in UA and It's shaped like Ben's favorite Omnitrix (AF)
We can say they're all ben prime but a Decision was made somewhere innthe timeline that resulted in the change that's why we see multiple ben10k nothing is set in stone in the ben 10 verse the Celestialsapien( aline X Species) are change the universe every second it's a constant change that's why we'll never see a true ben 10k prime because they're all are ben10k prime
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
@@OfficialThemeprolairUA 10k and OV 10k are Ben Prime, they were said to be Ben Prime their whole lives, so both are and are the same future in different points in time or Ben could not be the Prime anymore for any reasson
the ben 10.000 with the biomnitrix actually remember that the punch would kill him but if he didn't do it, then the ben without omnitrix wouldn't go to the past with professor paradox and ben wouldn't never get the omnitrix, so he told ben without omnitrix about the cronos sapan, to ben without omnitrix know how to reverse everything. So yes he is the prime future ben 10.000.
😅 so hear me out here. I like to think that Ben’s timeline is like the swamp from ATLA. That has one giant tree and several roots that grew into a swamp around the main tree. All the smaller trees are deviations with their own timelines and events that happened to shape ben a certain way. While the main tree is basically untouched for the most part. But since we haven’t seen a official timeline or guide as to the events of Ben’s life. We can’t really say what events are cannon and what events lead to what deviations.
I just want to point out that this timeline theory in ben 10 lore would already be relevant irl, you can't see your future since you are constantly making decisions. A different decision leads to a timeline branch, so in theory he will never meet his prime
5:06 I have never seen any film/book/game/cartoon, where a future version of a character would remember about him meeting himself in the past, during time travel. And I have always hated this aspect of time travel plots. Maybe in case ouf Ben 10 this fact also shouldn't been considered as a serious evidence.
imo omniverse ben10k is ben primes future, each ben10k from each series have been based on what ben would be if he continues like that, for eg classic ben10k would be if ben never took the watch off, however he did, but in omnverse since its the complete watch his future would be him
would love to see a biomnitrix video. The main question I have about it is: it it weaker than the regular omnitrix? Some people are saying its weaker because it has certain weaknesses that the regular one doesn't. For example, its vulnerable to solar flares and EMPs
Ben who never encountered the Omnitrix is the Ben Prime, the root of all Ben-s. That is why Vilgax chose his timeline to detonate Chrono-sapien timebomb to erase/uproot every version of Ben 10. Remember? Without Ben Prime's intervention to deliver the Omnitrix, Ben would have never encounter it.
Personally I believe Ben 10k punched the time bomb in an effort to preserve the timeline he already knew what nobody else did (aside from paradox ) he knew in order to preserve the timeline he had to sacrifice himself
I would say their isn’t a singular Ben prime so much as any timeline that follows the “canon” is a prime universe until it changes. I think professor paradox shifts what the prime universe is so that it’s temporally stable and doesn’t unmake all of reality. Ultimate 10K was Prime Ben until he unlocked all of bens previous aliens that decision as suggested by professor paradox stabilised the main timeline so that ultimate Ben became a branch and the trunk shifted. Each twig was once part of the trunk until it became a branch.
Slight argument. What if ben prime didn't see ben 10k punch the chronosapian shockwave? The only bens we know for sure he's not are benzaro and mad ben, as they're the only ones that we know for certain watched him punch it. That is ignoring if i missed the crew confirming it at least.
I read somewhere that Ov Ben 10k knew that his punch would have no effect but he still had to do it to not diverge from the past/(change what had already happened) just like how Ben Prime had to give his watch to no Watch Ben so that he could give the proto Omnitrix to og ben
Nope I don't think that's Ben Prime coz he doesn't remember what happened that day, the small one I'm talking about, however if you take in consideration that Paradox said that it'll be a dream for him soon to be forgotten then he could be Prime because of not remembering it
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
Clearly late to the party, but, when you said that OG Ben 10k would've remembered that he went to the future and saw his future self if he was Prime Ben, I remembered a line from Sam from Totally Spies which I think would fit the scenario, "the cycle has to start somewhere and it started with us". Future Sam said the same thing, that if Prime Sam was her from the past, she should've remembered that she went to the future and met with her future self. So in my theory, OG Ben 10k was Prime Ben until the moment Prime Ben met OG Ben 10k and saw how much he changed, that experience changed Prime Ben, and thus, OG Ben 10k was no longer the future of Prime Ben.
I remember a old ben 10 ov theory where ben 10k is the real ben10k from the prime timeline and the reason why he did that is to preserve the time stream and needs to do those exact actions to do so knowing that he does come back beacause of no watch ben
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
There's also something in the episode where Ben faces off against the galactic gladiator, where the lawyer assigned to protect Ben is in front of Celestialsapien after Ben recreates the universe using aliens x he accuse Celestialsapien that they change the timeline and showed a three images to azums from difference eras look like ben 10 Alien force and Ben 10 Omniverse and ben 10 Classic
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
Wouldn't it be that since they all share the same past, they are all Ben prime? Since his future always changes, isn't it more likely that the multiple versions of him are all his future? Of course, this could also mean that Ben prime's ultimate future is one where he masters all the omnitrix tech from each of his futures, and those futures either die in a reset, or join together into the main timeline, creating main timeline hyper ben. Perhaps thats why he's still young? He wont age until his futures merge into one and he becomes an adult?
But the whole thing with Ben 10 k and time travel is that some things have to happen a certain way for the best outcome. Ben 10 k Omniverse and paradox knows this and that was the whole point of the evil clockwork loop lock he was put in.
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
This is completely impossible, Paradox and Ultimate Ben confirmed several times in the episode that he is Ben's real future, so he Ben's real future, at least until the end of the ep.Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Yes! It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
the one in ultimate alien isnt ben primes future tho its stated that hes from a timeline that he didnt have to sacrifice his omnitrix. and so everytime he meets his future self his future changes meaning hes only seen his direct future once and that was the original series and it does change as we later see in the og that ben 10k now has a kid and kevin is evil still. but his future changes as ben evolves so the only version of ben 10k that is cannon is in omniverse.
There isn't even any evidence that Ben10k didn't know his punch wouldn't do anything, It could easily be chalked up to timeline preservation. Like as if he was showing off that even Alien X's power wasn't going to work to the other Ben's
Plus, Omniverse Ben 10k introduced no watch Ben to the clockwork transformation, as if he knew no watch Ben will need that alien to revert the time bomb
What if the punch was something he had to do to make sure the timeline stayed stable like he knew what he did and that's why he had to do it to keep the timeline sacred kinda like a sacred timeline needs to keep stable
Ben 10k In classic were ben 10k with 20 year old but ben 10k ultimate is ben 10k with 30 years old but ben 10k omniverse were ben 10k with 40 years old
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It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben. Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie. And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
I like to think that classic ben 10k eventually becomes ultimate ben 10k and after that he ditches it for the comp. Omnitrix and eventually gives it to ken and created the biomnitrix Btw ben 10k omniverse with biomnitrix is ben prime
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Ben 10 Lore: "Every time the current Ben meets his future self, his future immediately changes & that future version is no longer Ben's 'true' future."
Omniverse: "I'm going to ignore that."
it is because he thought future ben 10K was another branch of himself not his future
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
@@miguelbianchi968 more liklely ben 10 k from og - ben 10 ov , ultimate ben 10 k is if he didnt destroy the porotype omnitrix
@@da-vidcargill4975 No, Ultimate Ben was said to be Ben's real future, so he certainly destroyed the prototype and probably made another Ultimatrix after years of using OV's Omnitrix. Furthermore, Paradox confirmed that OS 10k is from another timeline
@@miguelbianchi968could not have said it better myself.
In my head cannon Original Ben 10 k lost feedback (but) never took off his watch, the trauma of losing his favorite alien (his favorite part of himself) causing him to get more serious, I’d say he splits off from Gwen and Max when he was 12, casusing Them not to meet Kevin and reform him, kills Vilgax around 15 and imprisons Kevin in the Nulvoid at 16 leading to a different type of rooters arc
Woo!
Thats some interesting Theory!
Seems true tbh
He then hinted that Ben will understand being a hero is not about fun. And Kevin didn't got cured by Kwarrel, he eventually got his Human form back but is still mentally insane.
Pettion to show this to ink tank or people will think its a goofy theory made by an ordinary fan
@casterivo it is a goofy theory made by a fan.
Pretty sure it was implied the first Ben 10K became so serious because of Max losing his arm to Vilgax, who he then proceeded to beat to a pulp. He then distanced himself from everyone he cared about as a defense mechanism, putting everything on his shoulders.
The young Ben who appeared in the fight against Aggregor is also the Prime Ben of Alan Paradox. He erased his memory when he brought him back, but it seemed that he was still remembering what happened in the form of a dream.
all ben 10k were prime ben, but at one point in the prime ben's timeline he made a decision that caused those timelines branched off to become their own realities.
No matter which future ben change they still look way better than Caseoh ben 10K in the reboot
Nah 💀
Nah don't disrespect my boy caseoh he is batter than that
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Sorry.Mate and i definitely can see that lol-
Atleast he has character development than being a dad bot
@@zeanone9257 which is a trashy version of peter b parker's
It's funny how no matter what timeline or universe, Ben is guaranteed to go through twink death
Himbofication if you will
it's my theory that the timeline between the classic Ben 10k and UAF Ultimate Ben diverted the exact moment that classic ben learned that "sometimes its okay to go ben" and then took it literally where he never wanted to go alien
You also have to consider that ben 10k prob punched the timebomb because he knew how events would unfold since he already lived that as prime ben. If the ben 10k before him performed a similiar action, then he prob replicated that to have the most accurate future that would guarantee them the win.
Fully agreed
Fully agreed@@hudsonman2
my pfp is ben 10s biggest alien by far
it surpasses ultimate waybig by about 500,000,000,000,000 times its size
he dosnt remember because it in away didnt happen, the only ones that would remember are no watch ben and vilgax
@@darkskyler6049 and obviously paradox? who might have told ben 10k which is why he showed no watch ben clockwork earlier in the episodes
For OV Ben 10k I think that the only reason he decided to attempt to punch the Chronosapien time bomb was to make sure timeline was kept the same or something like that
He had to remember and present Ben was destroyed that time so he couldn't know and he was clearly surprised so this guy is flat wrong yeah pretty wrong he wants to finish off canon
By he I mean you
My favourite Ben 10k was Ken's father Ben 10k. I felt he was the most mature of them all and was not arrogant like the first Ben 10k we saw.
Classic Ben 10k is the same Ben from the episode Goodbye and Good Riddance
OV Ben 10K Is my favourite and Goat Future of Ben
How come Ben's aliens perform so well on earth when the planets they come from are completely different
the omnitrix makes all aliens to their peak so when you see ben its just what the peak of that species is almost as if they were on steroids
They are ALL Ben 10K Prime just alternate versions.
OG Ben 10k being OG Ben without the time travel.
Alternate universe is a completely DIFFERENT thing.
Well you have to agree the omni erse one was so cool
He was intelligent a guide a good father a good friend for paradox
Facts I love his mature relationship with Paradox
@@greymatterfanboy4256 yea thanks for replying 💜❤️
The Ben from the past in forge of creation episode is really Ben Prime...! Because the past is over and future changes, but the present is evolving..!
I think for ultimate ben, Azmuth probably didn't think he was worthy of the completed omnitrix for whatever reason, and then he later used his aliens to figure out ultimate ben and master control. As for the design the watch probably has an alter function?
Maybe he and kevin hacked the Ultimatrix
It was never said anywhere that Ben 10k from UA never had the Omnitrix from OV, he may have had it and after years of using the Omnitrix from OV he made a new Ultimatrix, even because the Ultimatrix doesn't even look like the one that appeared in UA and It's shaped like Ben's favorite Omnitrix (AF)
It's because he meets his future self AND because he gets a new Omnitrix in every series after Alien Force.
Ben 10k omniverse might be Ben prime because he probably knew he would get brought back and that’s why he jumped in the thing
Following up on that he showed no watch Ben the chronosapian transformation
main ben is the younger ben we see on the screen where there is multiple in every time travel shenanigans
We can say they're all ben prime but a Decision was made somewhere innthe timeline that resulted in the change that's why we see multiple ben10k nothing is set in stone in the ben 10 verse the Celestialsapien( aline X Species) are change the universe every second it's a constant change that's why we'll never see a true ben 10k prime because they're all are ben10k prime
You should totally do a Biomatrix, it would be awesome to see how it works
I just might
@@greymatterfanboy4256 you jamaican 🇯🇲
@@greymatterfanboy4256there's a theory that 10K punched the bomb on PURPOSE
@@greymatterfanboy4256and if you look into it,it kinda makes sense
1:23
^ My favorite one🤌🏼
Is Ben the last conductoid and why did he stop using feedback?
He stopped using him because malware stole him out of the omnitrix when ben was 11 but he later got him back when he was 16
What if our prime Ben become a alternate Ben like Ben 10thousands💀
It won’t happen because he is prime Ben, it’s not possible.
Basically what I’m saying is that his whole life is meant to happen so it will always be prime
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
@@OfficialThemeprolairUA 10k and OV 10k are Ben Prime, they were said to be Ben Prime their whole lives, so both are and are the same future in different points in time or Ben could not be the Prime anymore for any reasson
@@miguelbianchi968 Ik
the ben 10.000 with the biomnitrix actually remember that the punch would kill him but if he didn't do it, then the ben without omnitrix wouldn't go to the past with professor paradox and ben wouldn't never get the omnitrix, so he told ben without omnitrix about the cronos sapan, to ben without omnitrix know how to reverse everything. So yes he is the prime future ben 10.000.
😅 so hear me out here. I like to think that Ben’s timeline is like the swamp from ATLA. That has one giant tree and several roots that grew into a swamp around the main tree. All the smaller trees are deviations with their own timelines and events that happened to shape ben a certain way. While the main tree is basically untouched for the most part. But since we haven’t seen a official timeline or guide as to the events of Ben’s life. We can’t really say what events are cannon and what events lead to what deviations.
but lets rmmbr, Future Ben from Omniverse thanked about something to that Goopy alien that connects to Omnitrixes etc, let's dont forget about it
I just want to point out that this timeline theory in ben 10 lore would already be relevant irl, you can't see your future since you are constantly making decisions. A different decision leads to a timeline branch, so in theory he will never meet his prime
Isn't Ben's future self from 2025?
5:06 I have never seen any film/book/game/cartoon, where a future version of a character would remember about him meeting himself in the past, during time travel. And I have always hated this aspect of time travel plots. Maybe in case ouf Ben 10 this fact also shouldn't been considered as a serious evidence.
Ben 10k from omniverse is just a branch in the time line and he knows he can t change the time line
1:40 Sleeker?! That's the most laziest Future Omnitrix ever!!
Its just the recalibrated Omnitrix, they got lazy😭
bro got that back to the futue music in the start
Bro I have a question
Does atomic x has to make decisions like alien x does plz let me know
I dig the new profile
imo omniverse ben10k is ben primes future, each ben10k from each series have been based on what ben would be if he continues like that, for eg classic ben10k would be if ben never took the watch off, however he did, but in omnverse since its the complete watch his future would be him
would love to see a biomnitrix video. The main question I have about it is: it it weaker than the regular omnitrix? Some people are saying its weaker because it has certain weaknesses that the regular one doesn't. For example, its vulnerable to solar flares and EMPs
Because biomnitrix created by ben 10k not azmuth and the best watch iş ben 10 five years later omnitrix
Classic Ben 10 thousand with the master controls who’s 25-30 and 40-50 is full of true Rizz.
Ben who never encountered the Omnitrix is the Ben Prime, the root of all Ben-s. That is why Vilgax chose his timeline to detonate Chrono-sapien timebomb to erase/uproot every version of Ben 10. Remember? Without Ben Prime's intervention to deliver the Omnitrix, Ben would have never encounter it.
Everytime you see the future. It changes! They were ALL Ben ten prime. But then, cause of time travel, they no longer are.
Personally I believe Ben 10k punched the time bomb in an effort to preserve the timeline he already knew what nobody else did (aside from paradox ) he knew in order to preserve the timeline he had to sacrifice himself
I would say their isn’t a singular Ben prime so much as any timeline that follows the “canon” is a prime universe until it changes.
I think professor paradox shifts what the prime universe is so that it’s temporally stable and doesn’t unmake all of reality.
Ultimate 10K was Prime Ben until he unlocked all of bens previous aliens that decision as suggested by professor paradox stabilised the main timeline so that ultimate Ben became a branch and the trunk shifted.
Each twig was once part of the trunk until it became a branch.
Every Ben 10k changed the timeline
The multiverse has infinite versions of Ben 10k. 🎉
Slight argument. What if ben prime didn't see ben 10k punch the chronosapian shockwave? The only bens we know for sure he's not are benzaro and mad ben, as they're the only ones that we know for certain watched him punch it. That is ignoring if i missed the crew confirming it at least.
I read somewhere that Ov Ben 10k knew that his punch would have no effect but he still had to do it to not diverge from the past/(change what had already happened) just like how Ben Prime had to give his watch to no Watch Ben so that he could give the proto Omnitrix to og ben
The funny thing is I believe it was Omniverse Ben that told no watch Ben how to save the alternate timelines with clockwork
Nope I don't think that's Ben Prime coz he doesn't remember what happened that day, the small one I'm talking about, however if you take in consideration that Paradox said that it'll be a dream for him soon to be forgotten then he could be Prime because of not remembering it
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
Question for u how much time does ben take to transform
Bro the gauntlet omnitrix looks like a parasite to me 😭
Clearly late to the party, but, when you said that OG Ben 10k would've remembered that he went to the future and saw his future self if he was Prime Ben, I remembered a line from Sam from Totally Spies which I think would fit the scenario, "the cycle has to start somewhere and it started with us". Future Sam said the same thing, that if Prime Sam was her from the past, she should've remembered that she went to the future and met with her future self.
So in my theory, OG Ben 10k was Prime Ben until the moment Prime Ben met OG Ben 10k and saw how much he changed, that experience changed Prime Ben, and thus, OG Ben 10k was no longer the future of Prime Ben.
I remember a old ben 10 ov theory where ben 10k is the real ben10k from the prime timeline and the reason why he did that is to preserve the time stream and needs to do those exact actions to do so knowing that he does come back beacause of no watch ben
Short idea why in the reboot series does stink fly and wild vine looks so different
Vide idea:how did the carnitrix have access to alien x even tho it was just a prototype
I read somewhere everytime Ben meets his future self the future changes
So all 3 aren't future ben now
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
He so chill in this 1
There's also something in the episode where Ben faces off against the galactic gladiator, where the lawyer assigned to protect Ben is in front of Celestialsapien after Ben recreates the universe using aliens x he accuse Celestialsapien that they change the timeline and showed a three images to azums from difference eras look like ben 10 Alien force and Ben 10 Omniverse and ben 10 Classic
What would Ben 10's real future be like if he did not end up as Ben 10K
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
Future Ben 10 needs a tv show for Max similar to Fiona and Cake
FACTS
3:20 which ep bro
5 times if you count kid ben meeting teen ben is that ep with the baby celestialsapien
Why did gwen changed her appearence in omniverse?
Can someone explain what’s wrong with sentient aliens in the watch?
They viewed ben as an abuser and jailer. And in order to escape they needed him to die
Another detail of Omniverse Ben10K is that Kevin is Kevin 11K.
Yes , please do a video on biomnitrix
Think he did one already
I feel like there’s more I can say though tbh lol
Wouldn't it be that since they all share the same past, they are all Ben prime? Since his future always changes, isn't it more likely that the multiple versions of him are all his future? Of course, this could also mean that Ben prime's ultimate future is one where he masters all the omnitrix tech from each of his futures, and those futures either die in a reset, or join together into the main timeline, creating main timeline hyper ben.
Perhaps thats why he's still young? He wont age until his futures merge into one and he becomes an adult?
But the whole thing with Ben 10 k and time travel is that some things have to happen a certain way for the best outcome. Ben 10 k Omniverse and paradox knows this and that was the whole point of the evil clockwork loop lock he was put in.
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
I think it doesn’t change more like till omniverse Ben 10k we’ve been seeing different timelines
This is completely impossible, Paradox and Ultimate Ben confirmed several times in the episode that he is Ben's real future, so he Ben's real future, at least until the end of the ep.Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Please make a video of difference between water hazard and over flow
Is whampire stronger than alien x?
DJW initially stated that Alien X cannot survive in Anur Translin, so yep
@@adeeb10000 the planet is fanon dude
Ultimate ben 10K was the closest to prime ben because Ultimate B10k remembered what prime experienced in the episode while Og B10K didn't remember it.
Yes! It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
i believe that the ben timelines changes every time he encounters the future version of him and knows that it was his future self
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
the one in ultimate alien isnt ben primes future tho its stated that hes from a timeline that he didnt have to sacrifice his omnitrix. and so everytime he meets his future self his future changes meaning hes only seen his direct future once and that was the original series and it does change as we later see in the og that ben 10k now has a kid and kevin is evil still. but his future changes as ben evolves so the only version of ben 10k that is cannon is in omniverse.
There isn't even any evidence that Ben10k didn't know his punch wouldn't do anything, It could easily be chalked up to timeline preservation. Like as if he was showing off that even Alien X's power wasn't going to work to the other Ben's
Plus, Omniverse Ben 10k introduced no watch Ben to the clockwork transformation, as if he knew no watch Ben will need that alien to revert the time bomb
What if the punch was something he had to do to make sure the timeline stayed stable like he knew what he did and that's why he had to do it to keep the timeline sacred kinda like a sacred timeline needs to keep stable
I would love a bio Video how soon ever you could make it
5:51 EWWWW WHY GWEN LOOK LIKE THAT BRO BROTHER EWW
How would chaquetrix ultimate ben 10k work?
Will you do more what if video's
Ben 10k In classic were ben 10k with 20 year old but ben 10k ultimate is ben 10k with 30 years old but ben 10k omniverse were ben 10k with 40 years old
I finally catched up
So just an update, i still dont know how i will start with the best writing...storyline that will essentially give the true color of boundary...so yeah...the story of something that has Math and Science with the hint of the best plot.....
Ben 10k omniverse punch it on purpose to keep the time line intact
I want a Ben 10k series r rated just one where Ben don’t give af.
Hey do a video about the bloodtrix
7:46 maybe he new he'd fail but ben new that it didn't matter because he remembered it
Classic is my favourite
I liked the classic Ben 10K the most
Please do a video with Ben 10K with the Biomnitrix. 😊😊😊
Azmuth always hatedthe Ulimatrix because of Ultimates as a concept. Not because they went sentient.
Ben 10 Traumatrix please
Is there a place I can watch Ben ten Omni for free
Please make Triomnitrix fusion between 3 aliens
It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.
Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox and Dwayne Mcduffie.
And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone.
Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.
Yes do biomnitrix pls it’s my fav omnitrix
next video: what if goku obtain the omnitrix ?
Ultimate Ben 10 000 is my favorite ben future in terms of personality
wasn't there another OS future ben?
I think its likely Omniverse
I like to think that classic ben 10k eventually becomes ultimate ben 10k and after that he ditches it for the comp. Omnitrix and eventually gives it to ken and created the biomnitrix
Btw ben 10k omniverse with biomnitrix is ben prime