@Larry Danso “Ben 10,000”. After that AF introduced Paradox, who became a major character because of more time travel, and Omniverse retroactively establishes a time loop.
Ben 10: has great lore and has very complicated story Cartoon Network: Cancels omniverse and reboots the series Everyone: Congratulations! You just ruined our hard work!
What a coincidence ... Just two hours ago, l tried to explain about dimensions and universe to my friend. But I am unable to clear his doubts. I showed this video to him. Now he is explaining to me.
Durga prasad wow that s pretty condescending "I literally don't know much about this" becomes "Wow this makes so much sense don't you see how ex.1 relates to ex.2 it's so obvious!"
Ben 23 is probably one of my favorite Ben 10 characters. It's interesting to see what would happen if Grampa Max was never there to teach Ben what is right and wrong
Before watching the video: cool I'll get to learn about the fictional/meta physical concerts of time, dimensions, universes, and Ben 10 After watching the video: Well I'm lost... After watching the video in another dimension(?): Things make sense.
Yeah bro! I got confused as heck I grew up watching classic, alien force, ultimate alien and Omniverse..... I had already watched Ink tanks videos before few years but now I am able to understand much more but this video confuses me more
Well, actually, it was later revealed that it was in fact Dr Manhattan the one that meddled with the heros and altered their stories and as a consequence created the new 52. He did all that because he could always see into the future, but now all he could see was superman apperently punching him and then nothing, so he was trying to stop Superman from existing but no matter what he changed, Superman always will exist. So yeah, Flash did nothing wrong!! It was Dr Manhattan all this time
I've always theorized that the evil Ben was from the shadow world from the secret Saturdays. It was made cannon that they are from the same world, and if the shadow world is a universe where all heros have a villain counterpart, it makes sense that there would be an evil Ben there as well.
Oh !!!!!! Wow that is actually an interesting theory Oh gosh I loved those villains It's a shame about Zak Monday he was just a kid. Also I love just couse you mentioned Secret Saturdays do you wanna know a great fanfic that continues a story? I can give you a name If you want. Edit after 3 months it's called it will not obey you and there is also a great fanfic crossover of Ben 10 and TSS
@@nerdycookiebunny856 I'd take it similar to justice league vs crime syndicates situation. They're the same power level but different moralities. Meaning sure they could be a good vilgax and the wins as much as he does against smoke Ben. We'll only know if we ever have media that goes back to these plot points at the end of the day
6:00 It's called dimensions 23 because 23rd Mr. Smoothy and Ben 23 claims to only have 23 aliens. 7:20 And "Post Ben Universe" has been confirmed by Ben Prime to be the same universe just altered because he had to recreate it. A lot of people make the assumption that it isn't the same universe and everything after is non-canon but that isn't true. For proof, watch "Universe vs. Tennyson" and "Collect This".
@@RomaroBrandon in the final episode of Omniverse you would actually know that the Anihalagg create both time and space so in term, it did the same at the beginning of the season as well
Hai Nguyn except Ben went back in time in that episode to before the universe was created. If anything, Ben created an alternate timeline from a set point in the timestream
bryan diaz varela yknow that omniverse clip with all those Bens, yeah in that episode LITERALLY ALL BUT ONE BEN ARE ENGULFED BY A TIME BOMB WOTH ALL PF THEM SHOUTING AND RUNNING
bryan diaz varela there’s no need for blood and gore for the sake of blood and gore it was clearly stated it was a time bomb and it destroyed all the bens.
There have been deaths. Kevin's father was murdered by an electric shock(I know omniverse said it's non-canon but I like to think it's just what kuro explained in a video of his), the first plumber they meet in the first alien force episode also dies, in another one charmcaster steals Kevin's, ben's and Gwen's souls. Also kevin throws ragnarok into the sun. Plus I'm sure I'm forgetting something
I like how in Ben 10 Omniverse they actually show that a change in art occurred up to 3 times at that point. Playing it off as dimensions getting swapped and re-written.
TBH I think it was a missed opportunity to give Ken Tennyson his own series at best it would continue the current story arc of Ben 10 but in the future at worst it turns into Boruto
Dude ... do u remmber the baruto series?? Because naruto son is the star it don't have the feels again so it probally when the writers saw tht they decided not to have Ken Tennyson share the same fate
@bryan diaz varela tbh omniverse had a crossover with the secret saturdays of all things, years after it's cancellation. i dont see why they couldn't do that
He's most likely the Ben from the gwen 10 timeline that got jealous and after awhile of discovering his spark he started practice magic it's not that surprising because Ben 10k did use magic in ultimate alien but it was only one spell
Race Against Time is from a different timeline. Alien Swarm is canon since it basically showed how Ben unlocked Nanomech, and the girl (forgot her name) reappeared
Well there are two universes you missed, In Ben 10 Secret Of The Omnitrix, there are three openings, one where Ben picks heatblast, one where he picks XLR8, and one where he picks Eye Guy
I think the fact that all omnitrixes have the same aliens despite the separation of realities should be because of one of two possibilities: one Alien X or two the database the omnitrix uses is in its own reality and links up to any omnitrix built. Probably explains how Kevin built his own from a dream.
@@omnisystem6030 In simple terms. Galvins have made their own universe before, so it is not a huge stretch to think that azmuth, or an azmuth, made a universe that stores the dna the omnitrix has and then automatically hooks it up to any built omnitrix.
This is one of the most comprehensive evaluations of the entire omniverse, and a true dedication to the show. Thanks for making this, and its being added to my favorites since im gonna watch this again and again whenever i rewatch the series.
Gwen would still have found out about her Anodite powers, found the magical stones, the red magical stone and found Hope's spell book even if she had found the Omnitrix before Ben. Future Gwen from 10,000 would have found out about her Anodite powers and would have gotten her hands on Hope's spell book. So they did find out about their Anodite powers and they did find Hope's spell book.
@@persoonophetweb2891 well i could have happened in ben prime universe just off-screen in the exact same way as in the movie, tho again not sure what would be the point in calling alien swarm alternative universe
I love how offhandedly the mention of Omniverses’ weird finale temporal episodes happens. It’s just “oh yeah, and George Washington fought Vilgax, no biggie.”
Long time Ben 10 fan here. Thank you for making this video. Wow, I never knew how complicated the Ben 10 Universes/Timelines/Dimensions were intill watching this video.
Zombie Ben actually has an interesting and kind of tragic backstory with animo and a fully human gwen attempting to team up to find a cure after both ben and Azmuth are zombified I think that could have made a great couple of episodes
As a writer(Well starting up writer), a fan of Ben 10 and animation in general, this is very informative and after watching Spiderman into the spiderverse, It gives me some ideas for a pet project of mine that I'm still working and it might not be perfect. Thanks Kuro.
@@melvinfranco2142 I actually published it on Ao3. Granted it's only 2 chapters and Ben himself wont appear until chapter 3. Also work really took hold of my life.
6:14 I personally thought he was more Dantdm than Bieber, I swear if 5YrLtr Has a scene where Ben23 is On A Gaming channel and say's "Hey Welcome to my Judo Jammers Let's play" My life is complete! XD
Im bored so ima make all the stories of all alter bens (mostly the evil ones) Mad ben:around the time of ben being 10 in this universe,ben’s parents and grandparents are dead n ben is in a foster home,at 1 point a pod that has the omnitrix was sent down and unlike the normal omnitrix events,this omnitrix pod hits a nuclear station and destroys a part of belwood and in turn kills gwen,kevin and others; ben also survives the blast,after a year or 2 humanity goes to hell n ben becomes a part of a group;ben finds the omnitrix on accident and betrays his group n controls belwood as benwood Zombie ben:in this universe ben loses to zomboso and becomes his slave forever and in turn all aliens in the omnitrix die off meaning ben is using dead alien DNA Nega ben:in this universe ben is constantly bullied by cash n TJ,in turn ben becomes negative n hates everyone;in this universe grandpa max dies when ben is 14,gwen dies due to childhood cancer so ben never knows about her,at age 15 ben gets mugged by kevin,everything seems lost until Eon gives nega ben an omnitrix from an unknown universe;this omnitrix is called the minus omni(an omnitrix that is so filled with negative energy) and also when comming into contact with the user ben’s universe gets filled with negative energy;death rates rises and suicide rates also rise extremely; Ben sees kevin commit suicide and then agrees to work with Eon. (Non of this is cannon and i was bored)
But,why would omnitrix sent to earth if max is dead.at first place it was meant for him.if he wasn't there why would it be sent ?? And azimuth would know that max is dead.
My own personal explanation goes like this Timeline: same as kuro. Realms: these are the smaller compartments in a universe that are vastly different from the main realm in the universe e.g ledger domain, the null void, dagon's world. Universe: basically same as kuro. Multiverse/dimension: a collection of different universes with the same people but different events happen. So basically there are multiple multiverse s that hold different people e.g Ben's dimension, naruto's dimension, rex's dimension and they move around in a space I call the dimensional gap and sometimes overlap which causes the phenomenon known as crossovers. So if I was to simplify it with minecraft Realm: overworld,nether,the end. Universe: your different saved worlds. Dimension: your friends worlds on another account.
Kuro destroyed my mind with this video... Ben 10 When beguns : *Show abou kid defeating Bad alien guys* When the show ends: *Freakin timeline confusion*
Dimension 23 comes from the fact it first showed up in the episode Store 23, and the Omnitrix had selections of 23 transformations, instead of selections of 10
Well it was vilgax before he got the 1 powerup(cyber upgrade) and the 10 extra abilites powerup,but it still made no sense before those powerup he tank a NUKE but George Washington can go toe to toe with him
2:42 That is the distant future of the prime timeline, because in that episode Eon couldn’t travel out of the Prime Timeline but could still travel forward and back in time
How about a new Ben that is a good guy? This one, however, happens to have the Joker's insanity mixed with his predetermined morals. That would be awesome to see. Right? Edit: This Ben acquires the Omnitrix like Prime Ben, but ran into a mad scientist weeks before he ran into Dr. Animo. This guy puts prions into Ben's head, which made him permanently insane. However, he is still the good guy. Even so, he was placed into the Null Void as a safe way to protect Earth should he cause more trouble during his fights. How do you guys think Gwen would feel about this? Use proper grammar and sentence structure, not to mention proper uppercase and lowercase letters. If anyone likes this timeline, it will be greatly appreciated.
Also, I guess Bad Ben might be from a timeline where he killed Kevin when he was in freak form during Absolute Power: Part 2. This Ben then decided to just kill everyone, and Gwen might try to stop him like she tried to stop Kevin. This almost cost her life, except that Ben wants to see her suffer instead of dying a painful death. You know, just for fun. When he left with Eon, I guess Gwen decided to give her evil cousin a surprise. Let's just say the surprise will give Ben a clean shave.
Boy can time travel be confusing...... for the second Ben 10K meeting, I though they stated that Ben 10K dose remember everything that happened in that episode (where he even said something at the same time as Kevin to prove it), so I would have thought that timeline split would have happened after that episode, though I don't know exactly when.
Does the universe's creation count as another timeline? I don't know Maltruant's pieces being scattered across the multiverse was stated to always happen in a time loop by Professor Paradox and Ben, so maybe it was an event that will always happen in the timeline. I would love to see a story around Timeline A with Grandpa Max wielding the omnitrix.
My question is, if Timeline L caused the change that changed Timeline A to Timeline B and Timeline L is the result of this mess that originates entirely from Timeline B, how the hell did we get into this B,L loop to begin with!? The lack of that particular link in time travel media is always my biggest frustration. If we're watching the events that cause the beginning, then what the actual bleep started the bleeping thing?!
@@Draconarious time travel is very complicated and when time travel is in a show they usually says theres no orginal origin or theres no original timeline
There is a theory that Gwen 10 ben is eon,due to him remembering his time with the omnitrix but not getting it,he is angry because what made him special was robbed
Hey buddy you forgot about the timeline where ARGIT got an omnitrix Remember when Ben (A) Gwen 10, Ben 23 and Paradox went through time and reached a place where Argit was swimming in gold wearing a golden omnitrix....and Ben refused to take him for help
I thought for the time line part was a little different When Gwendolyn goes back to bring the past ben to the future, Ben goes on that path to not become that ben. The only difference I find with Classic and Alien Force timelines is that his parents never found out what ben really did. In that Goop's debut episode, it looked like Cash and JT knew that ben had the omnitrix but no one else did so I think that's the only break of the two series. When ultimate ben comes back to meet ultimate alien ben, i thought that was always supposed to happen, since live action ben was a different time line so live action ben became ultimate ben in my head. Everything else for me pretty much stays the same. I feel like kenny coming back and spoiling the future didn't really have an impact much on the time line and that the ben we follow becomes Ben 10K from the classic series (My thoughts on the omnitrix is that Azmuth unlocked master control on his 18th birthday allowing him to change the appearance of the omnitrix and making it look like the original in a more gauntlet type because the dial was so much easier than the whatever that was in omniverse). I guess the only real big thing that would've changed the whole timeline is when the universe was destroyed and ben had to remake it which caused a huge butterfly effect.
The biomnitrix of Omniverse ben 10k was created by that specific ben with Grey matter, Brainstorm and Frankenstrike (BenViktor or however you say it) and is not made by asmuth
So that the difference between dimension and universe's, i already know timelines. But thx on helping me i could never tell the difference between dimension and universe.
In Ben 10, they are spaces in which a universe, or universes(an total multiverse), can be created and existed; in real life they can roughly be defined as regions in which specific immutable constants of reality, like the relationship between energy and mass, or the linear direction of time, are in effect: for instance, it theorised that our universe, as well as any potential alternate universes directly analogues to our own, exist in a 4 dimensional region, counting basic geometry and time: ie, all things in our universe move through 3D space and linear time, so 4 dimensions.
eh... that's the differnce in THIS show. Frankly it's rather ridiculous how much these terms flipflop around between media. My personal standard is that dimensions are the subset that are alterations of a law of the story or physics without relating to timelines themselves (ie. a dimension where the omnitrix causes the zombie thing ((don't at me, I haven't managed to get back into the series since getting distracted by school during the alien force release period irl))). This makes the most sense to me as the term dimension in physics refers to the coordinate a serious property can be in (ie. the x,y,z dimensions of space, and other hypothesized dimensions in which things can be located --preferablly excluding time, but Albert Einstein bullies me as a Newtonian-Physics fan) Universes are collections of all dimensions relevant to a media subject or at least relevant to events that are isolated from other "universes" in the subject of the show. Really I see that latter as such cases where there are layers of dimensions (after all, things can be isolated to variations of x and y coordinates but different in z coordinates). So from my perspective, all of this Ben 10 stuff happens in one universe and really all these dimension and universe term uses in Ben 10 are different scales of dimensions instead. Universe, from my perspective, remains as a scale relative to what is real or not according to all relevance applied in the logic of a story. If a "universe" ever merges with "other universes" they are instead just different dimensions and the universe is a larger scale than realized. The multiverse from my perspective is litterally every universe and possibility actually in existance, not as a matter of scaling things but as a matter of definition.To me the "marvel multiverse" is its own universe and to those within the "marvel multiverse" universe, it appears to be the true scale of the multiverse when, in fact, they just don't realize there's other possiblities (such as us who watch them in the "real" universe). I'm willing to agree with this video's explanation of timeline.
Kuro confused the definitions of universe, dimension and timeline established in the series, for example, dimensions occur in the same universe, but in different planes, timelines are "dimensions" that are the same as another, but with one or more different events, universe is a set of galaxies, whereas one unverse is not necessarily parallel to another, since it has been shown in UA that they can even have completely different laws of physics
"a universe where Ben sat alone at the lunch table* XD that killed me! Also I like to think that all the evil Ben's got to see the error of their ways and are trying to be good
Not everyone,the Bad Ben(the one with the black hair)would not have that mindset,Benzarro just seems to be infected,maybe If we cure him he will turn good
I knew there were additional Ben10 series after the original. I watched the original as a kid and half or most of Alien Force when it came out. I certainly did not know there was this much craziness to the show! Now I want to just go on a Ben10 watching rampage!! Thank you for this video!!
I love the fact that most of the time paradox is very calm and that he has the same power as clockwork in omniverse where he can slow down time and walk really fast.
I like to believe that every time we have a Ben 10K episode that takes place in the future, the future had been changed. Like I don’t believe that he would be married with a child as a workaholic who is on duty 24/7. His suddenly popping up again with a family we never knew about in his first appearance is likely the result of young Ben learning about how miserable his future self would be if he continued going the path he was on.
Yeah. I don't see Ken existing prior to Ben's first trip to the future. The Ben 10k we saw in Ken 10 has to be from a different future that Ben simply never interacted with. That or that episode was set 10 years after and both Ben 10k and Future Gwen aged extremely well.
Mr. Ink Tank, Maybe Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated & Ben 10: Omniverse are set in the same universe! It is possible since they are 2 of the most well known Cartoon Network shows, they both have 2 live action made for TV movies, they both feature the universe being recreated with a few minor differences, & they both share Derrick J Wyatt's art style!
Everyone: Oh no everything is destroyed
Professor Paradox and Alien X: It's Rewind Time
Every time someone writes 'it's rewind time' i'm reading that with the voice of will smith in my head
Zimzamboo actually it’s Ben trying to convince Alien X its rewind time
He should've just rewound time instead of creating a duplicate universe
Yaaargh. *It’s rewind time.*
@@blackphoenix77 time isn't bigger then a universe so he couldn't have fixed time if it didn't exist.
“ a universe where ben sat alone at the lunch table”😂😂😂😂you got it bro
When the quiet ben reaches into their bag and says "it's hero time"
@Dapper Parraper Is that a school shooter joke? If so, I might go to hell for laughing.
@@voxomnes9537 it was
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Dapper Parraper took the words out of my mouth
Mentions Rex's dimention*
Ah, a man of culture
I remember that episode.
I kinda wanted a version where rex goes to Ben's dimension
@@dasherplayz4471 yeah Ben Gen 10
@@dasherplayz4471 well technically there is now and you're probably not gonna like it
WTF
@@estaveler3288 ahh yes reboot the most hated ben 10
Timeline B: Ben prime
Timeline G: Caused by Gwen
Timeline K: Caused by Spanner (Ken)
Coincidence???
I think not
@WHO TOOK MY Wii WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i THINK *NOT!*
Coincidence??? I think NOT!
OOOOOOOHHH MYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow who knew a show that “started when an alien device did what it did” could be so complex
Ikr
lol
Nice one
@Larry Danso s3 OS premiere
@Larry Danso “Ben 10,000”. After that AF introduced Paradox, who became a major character because of more time travel, and Omniverse retroactively establishes a time loop.
“There’s a Universe where he sits alone at the lunch table”
I nearly died of laughter
It’s just a gadget...be the hero!
Browserboom best line in the franchise. Hands down
Zaine Bamfo I disagreed but still great
@@Mirrorcomics24 why? What's your best line then?
@@Mirrorcomics24 i agree with disagreeing. The best line is "We're in space?" And pretty much every word that leaves Kirby's(aka no watch ben's) mouth
This line always makes me tear up cuz our prime ben's death
I just gained 50 brain cells
I just lost 50 Brain cells
Damn, that’s 49 more than I have!
That is really cool nigga man... Very Cool!!!
I have lost my last brain cell I'll now go subscribe to Jake Paul
Thats like 1% more intelligence
everyone: no one can explain time travel! it is IMPOSSIBLE!
ben 10 fans: SIGH i guess im supposed to explain.
Yo could you tell me if the final future we saw is what's gonna happen or... Is that future chained cause I didn't get the last part
@mark mccusker what?
All you have to do is travel faster than light and you could go back in time its super simple
@@pamelasindisiwemutasa9320 I think it won't change since it's in a loop
@@obsidiandragon1385 You'd actually travel forward through time due to the theory of relativity which you are using.
Damn, and they said Trunks from Dragonball was reckless with time travel.
Cell as well since he made an alternate timeline by stealing the Time Machine after Killing Trunks.
Thay time travel look so simple static to this,
Anew-Wiseman don’t forget Zamasu and Zamasu
Cough xehanort cough
Time travel in dragonball is some of the worst I've ever seen in any form of fiction
Should re-titled to "Ben 10: Into the Omniverse"
Yes
Yes
Gwen 10: What a pig😑
Ham 10: I'm right here😡
When we getting Black Ben?
@@unlimited-edge He's somewhere out there in the multiverse.
So, Ben has to die in an alternate universe to make that happen?
Ben 10: has great lore and has very complicated story
Cartoon Network: Cancels omniverse and reboots the series
Everyone: Congratulations! You just ruined our hard work!
Omnivores fucking sucked tbh
I think the Ben 10 reboot is just on a different earth.
At least it make the great original seem even better!
Giovanni Giovanni.
A shitty Earth
@@wolfkiller4 Yes
What a coincidence ...
Just two hours ago, l tried to explain about dimensions and universe to my friend. But I am unable to clear his doubts. I showed this video to him.
Now he is explaining to me.
Durga prasad wow that s pretty condescending "I literally don't know much about this" becomes "Wow this makes so much sense don't you see how ex.1 relates to ex.2 it's so obvious!"
Yos
Better way to explain that
you need better friends
I understand universes and dimensions but I thought universes and timelines were the same I'm so lost
Ben 23 is probably one of my favorite Ben 10 characters. It's interesting to see what would happen if Grampa Max was never there to teach Ben what is right and wrong
chad 23
Ben 23 is just a streamer that would make Mr beast type of content
Capitalism?
@@melvinfranco2142 I don't know what I'm saying. I'll just delete my comment.
@@phantom_drone what did you say
"Avengers Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover I've ever seen . "
The Ben Ten Omnivers :"Let me introduce myself ! "
Ben 10 is actually a Cinematic Universe timeliness. 👍
Well said 👍👍✌️
Wow... I never thought about it that way before, but I think you're right.
Way better than infinity war or endgame
Before watching the video: cool I'll get to learn about the fictional/meta physical concerts of time, dimensions, universes, and Ben 10
After watching the video: Well I'm lost...
After watching the video in another dimension(?): Things make sense.
He got thing mixed up
In this another dimension you are the son of Einstein
(After watching the video: Well I'm lost...) welcome to any episode of PBS Space-Time
@@azrael4728 in another dimension you are einsteins mom
I'm the 1100th like
What do I get
I'm a simple man, I see Ben 10, I click
@Dai Tron Screw 100! Let's get this bad boy up to 1K!
Yeah same
Same for me
Isnt that everybody when you see ben 10 you click thats just the rules
Before the video: Yay everything is gonna make more sense
After the video: Gets even more confused
Not the case for me. I was not confused before the video nor after watching it.
Yeah bro! I got confused as heck
I grew up watching classic, alien force, ultimate alien and Omniverse..... I had already watched Ink tanks videos before few years but now I am able to understand much more but this video confuses me more
@@aishashaikh1888 well its confusing now
More the video proceeds more it becomes complex..
Also English is not my native language so it's quite messed up there also
@@imperial-gamer I'm the guy who understands Multiversity in one sitting (and some tv tropes readings) so is piece of cake to me.
"Where George Washington fights Vilgax". If this were any other show, I might've said you just made that up.
George Washington was actually one of the first plumbers. People Just don't know it
George Washington was lit in this show because he did what only a Tennyson could do, fight Vilgax.
Hey, we saw the President in Rick and Morty fight Turkey Monsters.
speedforce: you broke the timeline by creating flashpoint
ben 10: hold my juce
*smoothie
Well, actually, it was later revealed that it was in fact Dr Manhattan the one that meddled with the heros and altered their stories and as a consequence created the new 52.
He did all that because he could always see into the future, but now all he could see was superman apperently punching him and then nothing, so he was trying to stop Superman from existing but no matter what he changed, Superman always will exist.
So yeah, Flash did nothing wrong!! It was Dr Manhattan all this time
@@artu165 well... thanks for all of that, but also is such a clasic that barry does something, that is a logical decision
I've always theorized that the evil Ben was from the shadow world from the secret Saturdays. It was made cannon that they are from the same world, and if the shadow world is a universe where all heros have a villain counterpart, it makes sense that there would be an evil Ben there as well.
Oh !!!!!! Wow that is actually an interesting theory Oh gosh I loved those villains It's a shame about Zak Monday he was just a kid. Also I love just couse you mentioned Secret Saturdays do you wanna know a great fanfic that continues a story? I can give you a name If you want.
Edit after 3 months it's called it will not obey you and there is also a great fanfic crossover of Ben 10 and TSS
@@charko4191 Yea. It's called omniverse
That’s actually a pretty cool & possible connection
So does that mean theres a possible chance there's good guy vilgax. Albedo and others Who wins against Ben every time. And Ben is the one who looses.
@@nerdycookiebunny856 I'd take it similar to justice league vs crime syndicates situation. They're the same power level but different moralities. Meaning sure they could be a good vilgax and the wins as much as he does against smoke Ben.
We'll only know if we ever have media that goes back to these plot points at the end of the day
This getting close to Primer levels of time travel, not quite, but like Kuro said Doctor Who levels.
Read Faction Paradox and then get back to me on that
You made me buy primer and its my god so fucking confusing.
The Only seasons of doctor who I watch is Series 2, 3, and 4, which is basicly the tenth doctor's seasons, I liked them.
If I can easily understand the Doctor Who timeline... this is a walk in the park
Oooo
6:00 It's called dimensions 23 because 23rd Mr. Smoothy and Ben 23 claims to only have 23 aliens.
7:20 And "Post Ben Universe" has been confirmed by Ben Prime to be the same universe just altered because he had to recreate it. A lot of people make the assumption that it isn't the same universe and everything after is non-canon but that isn't true. For proof, watch "Universe vs. Tennyson" and "Collect This".
The post Ben universe isn't the same due to Ben recreating both time and space within it, meaning, Ben create the timeline itself(multiverse)
Hai Nguyn except Ben himself didn't recreate himself because he didn't die. And he didn't recreate time either, it was still going forward.
@@RomaroBrandon in the final episode of Omniverse you would actually know that the Anihalagg create both time and space so in term, it did the same at the beginning of the season as well
Hai Nguyn except Ben went back in time in that episode to before the universe was created. If anything, Ben created an alternate timeline from a set point in the timestream
@@RomaroBrandon that doesn't contradict anything, that still mean that Ben created a new timeline(multiverse)
Einstein:I'm the smartest person ever
Kuro:Hold my omnitrix
LoL
Wait Wait What?
ok
@@withersonic9238 this was a joke talking about how smart kuro is
Azmuth:Hold my planet
And they say Infinity War was the greatest crossover in history.
*history*
bryan diaz varela yknow that omniverse clip with all those Bens, yeah in that episode LITERALLY ALL BUT ONE BEN ARE ENGULFED BY A TIME BOMB WOTH ALL PF THEM SHOUTING AND RUNNING
@bryan diaz varela they didnt show blood or gore because it was a cartoon for kids on CN, not a horror movie with Jason or Lether Face.
bryan diaz varela there’s no need for blood and gore for the sake of blood and gore it was clearly stated it was a time bomb and it destroyed all the bens.
There have been deaths. Kevin's father was murdered by an electric shock(I know omniverse said it's non-canon but I like to think it's just what kuro explained in a video of his), the first plumber they meet in the first alien force episode also dies, in another one charmcaster steals Kevin's, ben's and Gwen's souls. Also kevin throws ragnarok into the sun. Plus I'm sure I'm forgetting something
I like how in Ben 10 Omniverse they actually show that a change in art occurred up to 3 times at that point. Playing it off as dimensions getting swapped and re-written.
TBH I think it was a missed opportunity to give Ken Tennyson his own series at best it would continue the current story arc of Ben 10 but in the future at worst it turns into Boruto
Dude ... do u remmber the baruto series?? Because naruto son is the star it don't have the feels again so it probally when the writers saw tht they decided not to have Ken Tennyson share the same fate
It'd just end up like boruto. He would fight weaker enemies, become a pussy, and get accolades he does not deserve
@bryan diaz varela tbh omniverse had a crossover with the secret saturdays of all things, years after it's cancellation. i dont see why they couldn't do that
Boruto is good now
Yeah my thoughs exactly...Like back then I wann see more of him..then after seeing Boruto..I think Ken deserves even short episodes
Doctor who: I has big brain
Ben 10: hold my universe R
I was today years old when i figured out that the end of the og Ben 10 series was setting up Ben,10000
It certainly is Christmas, happy holidays everyone!
Gothams Gamer 2.0 I’m late but merry Christmas to you liam again
Kunal Ashok Bansode
1:59 dayum alien x got them curves
*YEAR LATER*
It is going to be
Actually, the dimension with Eon in it may be his own Earth, destroyed by his tyrannical rule. that explains the Mister Smoothie mascot lying around
He's most likely the Ben from the gwen 10 timeline that got jealous and after awhile of discovering his spark he started practice magic it's not that surprising because Ben 10k did use magic in ultimate alien but it was only one spell
I always liked to think that Eon's place was the end of time.
i like ur vids
Wait Alien Swarm is Canon to the main timeline. Race Against time is confirmed to be a parallel universe.
Alien Swarm is Canon as Ben has Nanomech and it's events were mentioned.
That's what I thought
Yes, AS is Canon to the Prime Timeline
I was thinking the same thing.
Race Against Time is from a different timeline. Alien Swarm is canon since it basically showed how Ben unlocked Nanomech, and the girl (forgot her name) reappeared
Well there are two universes you missed,
In Ben 10 Secret Of The Omnitrix, there are three openings, one where Ben picks heatblast, one where he picks XLR8, and one where he picks Eye Guy
I think the fact that all omnitrixes have the same aliens despite the separation of realities should be because of one of two possibilities: one Alien X or two the database the omnitrix uses is in its own reality and links up to any omnitrix built. Probably explains how Kevin built his own from a dream.
The reboot is not cannon
Uh I’m confused here
@@omnisystem6030 In simple terms.
Galvins have made their own universe before, so it is not a huge stretch to think that azmuth, or an azmuth, made a universe that stores the dna the omnitrix has and then automatically hooks it up to any built omnitrix.
@@Emily12471 the Galvans made a universe
@@omnisystem6030 Yes. The null void. Which was in an empty dimension
"George Washington fights Vilgax."
And it's one of the most badass things ever animated in Ben 10.
He watch on dexter 😂
This is one of the most comprehensive evaluations of the entire omniverse, and a true dedication to the show. Thanks for making this, and its being added to my favorites since im gonna watch this again and again whenever i rewatch the series.
Gwen would still have found out about her Anodite powers, found the magical stones, the red magical stone and found Hope's spell book even if she had found the Omnitrix before Ben. Future Gwen from 10,000 would have found out about her Anodite powers and would have gotten her hands on Hope's spell book. So they did find out about their Anodite powers and they did find Hope's spell book.
you just said "gwen will find out about their Anodite powers and find Hope's spell book" like three times.
Honestly, that's what I just understood!!
True. Also, she already knows martial arts, so technically, she is better with the Omnitrix than Ben is.
Would've been mind blowing if we ended on Timeline X (Roman Numeral for 10)
Good point.
What if that's what Alien X stood for
@@programmerpctheory1413 pretty sure it is
@@programmerpctheory1413 definitely sure it is
@@horseoperamarker absolutely sure it is
A universe where Ben is Australian,a universe where Ben sat alone at the lunch table.
That made me laugh so hard.
8:55 wait, "antagonist"?
O yah... Probably meant Protagonist
Or maybe he's the one that ends up being eon. Probably not tho not sure if that's true
@404 TV I’ve seen you replying to a lot of comments in this video
Yes
If alien swarm isnt in the main canon then how does nanomech even exist in ultimate alien and elena and viktor validus apear in ultimate alien
Broad strokes continuity
Didn't understand that question but ...... Hey Ben 10 fans much?
Aisha Shaikh i was saying that alien swarm is canon because these characters appear in ua
@@persoonophetweb2891 well i could have happened in ben prime universe just off-screen in the exact same way as in the movie, tho again not sure what would be the point in calling alien swarm alternative universe
Because why not i guess
6:51
"There's a universe where Ben is evil and ALSO Australian"
Tomato tomahto
What do you mean?
@@zayneabdelmegid2740 there are an infinite number of universes
I love how offhandedly the mention of Omniverses’ weird finale temporal episodes happens. It’s just “oh yeah, and George Washington fought Vilgax, no biggie.”
The Doctor: i have the most time traveling shenanigans in my series.
Ben: hold my smoothie...
14:29
"Much more complicated"
My brain : Am I a joke to you ?
0:54 Dimensions According to The Ink Tank 2:51 Universes According to the Ink Tank
Long time Ben 10 fan here. Thank you for making this video. Wow, I never knew how complicated the Ben 10
Universes/Timelines/Dimensions were intill watching this video.
Zombie Ben actually has an interesting and kind of tragic backstory with animo and a fully human gwen attempting to team up to find a cure after both ben and Azmuth are zombified I think that could have made a great couple of episodes
By watching this video I created an alternate timeline where I'm 0.01% smarter
but if infinite earths is real, which it probably is, that timeline already exists.
@@serventium4049 Are you talking about ben 10 or real life. If you are talking about real life, is it even possible
I really liked that multi-Ben crossover special, i hadn’t watched Ben ten in years at that point but that special reignited my passion for it
The Editing, Music, the intro, your voice! Its all fly af. This is the best edited video so far that has you in it
There’s only one time line that we can accept, that’s only when Ben says “It’s Hero TIME”
Omniverse is literally an Omniverse, and that's why I love it
Ink Tank: Ok, were going to talk about Timelines
Me: Ah shit here we go again
As a writer(Well starting up writer), a fan of Ben 10 and animation in general, this is very informative and after watching Spiderman into the spiderverse, It gives me some ideas for a pet project of mine that I'm still working and it might not be perfect. Thanks Kuro.
Just publish it already. We, as your underrated public, have a right to see it.
@@melvinfranco2142 I actually published it on Ao3. Granted it's only 2 chapters and Ben himself wont appear until chapter 3. Also work really took hold of my life.
Too bad it ain't an animated film, doc.
alien swarm is in ben prime universe as the events were mentioned in ben 10 ultimate alien
Yes also elena showed up
Da-vid Cargill and why ben has nanomech Damn kuro needs to do research better
Now this is a video that I wanted for a long time. Thanks A lot mate. Have a very happy holiday.
PS: Please make a video on paradox soon
6:14 I personally thought he was more Dantdm than Bieber, I swear if 5YrLtr Has a scene where Ben23 is On A Gaming channel and say's "Hey Welcome to my Judo Jammers Let's play" My life is complete! XD
Ben 23 gaming😳
All of a sudden, The Flash timelines seem easier to understand
Merry Christmas Kuro. And every member of the ink tank.
You guys are awesome
To be honest I wish Omniverse got one more season where Ben and rook traveled to other Universes, since AUs are always interesting imo
I just... Cannot get over the Hannah Barbera faces of the Mr. Smoothie mascots
Im bored so ima make all the stories of all alter bens (mostly the evil ones)
Mad ben:around the time of ben being 10 in this universe,ben’s parents and grandparents are dead n ben is in a foster home,at 1 point a pod that has the omnitrix was sent down and unlike the normal omnitrix events,this omnitrix pod hits a nuclear station and destroys a part of belwood and in turn kills gwen,kevin and others; ben also survives the blast,after a year or 2 humanity goes to hell n ben becomes a part of a group;ben finds the omnitrix on accident and betrays his group n controls belwood as benwood
Zombie ben:in this universe ben loses to zomboso and becomes his slave forever and in turn all aliens in the omnitrix die off meaning ben is using dead alien DNA
Nega ben:in this universe ben is constantly bullied by cash n TJ,in turn ben becomes negative n hates everyone;in this universe grandpa max dies when ben is 14,gwen dies due to childhood cancer so ben never knows about her,at age 15 ben gets mugged by kevin,everything seems lost until Eon gives nega ben an omnitrix from an unknown universe;this omnitrix is called the minus omni(an omnitrix that is so filled with negative energy) and also when comming into contact with the user ben’s universe gets filled with negative energy;death rates rises and suicide rates also rise extremely; Ben sees kevin commit suicide and then agrees to work with Eon.
(Non of this is cannon and i was bored)
But,why would omnitrix sent to earth if max is dead.at first place it was meant for him.if he wasn't there why would it be sent ?? And azimuth would know that max is dead.
My own personal explanation goes like this
Timeline: same as kuro.
Realms: these are the smaller compartments in a universe that are vastly different from the main realm in the universe e.g ledger domain, the null void, dagon's world.
Universe: basically same as kuro.
Multiverse/dimension: a collection of different universes with the same people but different events happen.
So basically there are multiple multiverse s that hold different people e.g Ben's dimension, naruto's dimension, rex's dimension and they move around in a space I call the dimensional gap and sometimes overlap which causes the phenomenon known as crossovers.
So if I was to simplify it with minecraft
Realm: overworld,nether,the end.
Universe: your different saved worlds.
Dimension: your friends worlds on another account.
Kuro destroyed my mind with this video...
Ben 10 When beguns : *Show abou kid defeating Bad alien guys*
When the show ends: *Freakin timeline confusion*
Blame paradox.
Dimension 23 comes from the fact it first showed up in the episode Store 23, and the Omnitrix had selections of 23 transformations, instead of selections of 10
"The plot of Kingdom Hearts is complicated!"
Me, an intellectual:
Nico The Nacho both are complicated
@@shikigranbell7608 no
It should be re-titled "Ben 10 Alpabet"
You are the most hardcore Ben10 fan I've ever seen *ever*
Are you serious..?
GEORGE WASHINGTON
FIGHTING VILGAX?
Yes
yes, that actually happens
Well it was vilgax before he got the 1 powerup(cyber upgrade) and the 10 extra abilites powerup,but it still made no sense before those powerup he tank a NUKE but George Washington can go toe to toe with him
Yes. 100% yes
Death battle George Washington vs vilgax fight
Hey everyone is it just me or would it be cool to see a Ben 10,000 show?
This.
@@Draconarious is shit.
yes
It would be cooler if we see alternate bens worlds,apart from ben 23 and mad ben,i would like to see Negative ben world
2:42 That is the distant future of the prime timeline, because in that episode Eon couldn’t travel out of the Prime Timeline but could still travel forward and back in time
"A Universe where Ben sat by himself at the lunch table"
I wish we got to see more of evil Bens and their orgins
True.
We probably would have if the show carried on for longer like it should have
How about a new Ben that is a good guy? This one, however, happens to have the Joker's insanity mixed with his predetermined morals. That would be awesome to see. Right?
Edit: This Ben acquires the Omnitrix like Prime Ben, but ran into a mad scientist weeks before he ran into Dr. Animo. This guy puts prions into Ben's head, which made him permanently insane. However, he is still the good guy. Even so, he was placed into the Null Void as a safe way to protect Earth should he cause more trouble during his fights.
How do you guys think Gwen would feel about this? Use proper grammar and sentence structure, not to mention proper uppercase and lowercase letters. If anyone likes this timeline, it will be greatly appreciated.
Also, I guess Bad Ben might be from a timeline where he killed Kevin when he was in freak form during Absolute Power: Part 2. This Ben then decided to just kill everyone, and Gwen might try to stop him like she tried to stop Kevin. This almost cost her life, except that Ben wants to see her suffer instead of dying a painful death. You know, just for fun. When he left with Eon, I guess Gwen decided to give her evil cousin a surprise. Let's just say the surprise will give Ben a clean shave.
AF & UA was awesome it was like anime art style and dark too
and the widening gyre episode it cracked me up jokes kevin jokes were great i miss him.
Omniverse has some good arcs u should try out
1.And then there were ben
2.The rooters
Mar10k_omnitrix facts
Boy can time travel be confusing...... for the second Ben 10K meeting, I though they stated that Ben 10K dose remember everything that happened in that episode (where he even said something at the same time as Kevin to prove it), so I would have thought that timeline split would have happened after that episode, though I don't know exactly when.
Does the universe's creation count as another timeline? I don't know Maltruant's pieces being scattered across the multiverse was stated to always happen in a time loop by Professor Paradox and Ben, so maybe it was an event that will always happen in the timeline. I would love to see a story around Timeline A with Grandpa Max wielding the omnitrix.
No because of a time loop
Didn't the show say Eon is a Ben too.
Yeah the Ben from the universe without the omnitrix
@@Neal_21 Holy SHIT... that's effed up.
My question is, if Timeline L caused the change that changed Timeline A to Timeline B and Timeline L is the result of this mess that originates entirely from Timeline B, how the hell did we get into this B,L loop to begin with!? The lack of that particular link in time travel media is always my biggest frustration. If we're watching the events that cause the beginning, then what the actual bleep started the bleeping thing?!
@@Draconarious time travel is very complicated and when time travel is in a show they usually says theres no orginal origin or theres no original timeline
There is a theory that Gwen 10 ben is eon,due to him remembering his time with the omnitrix but not getting it,he is angry because what made him special was robbed
Hey buddy you forgot about the timeline where ARGIT got an omnitrix
Remember when Ben (A) Gwen 10, Ben 23 and Paradox went through time and reached a place where Argit was swimming in gold wearing a golden omnitrix....and Ben refused to take him for help
Ouch...
I think thats a different universe
But still... Ouch.
And no watch ben had never even met argit and my guy was still like nope lol
@@OmniversalInsect ya lol
I thought for the time line part was a little different
When Gwendolyn goes back to bring the past ben to the future, Ben goes on that path to not become that ben. The only difference I find with Classic and Alien Force timelines is that his parents never found out what ben really did. In that Goop's debut episode, it looked like Cash and JT knew that ben had the omnitrix but no one else did so I think that's the only break of the two series. When ultimate ben comes back to meet ultimate alien ben, i thought that was always supposed to happen, since live action ben was a different time line so live action ben became ultimate ben in my head. Everything else for me pretty much stays the same. I feel like kenny coming back and spoiling the future didn't really have an impact much on the time line and that the ben we follow becomes Ben 10K from the classic series (My thoughts on the omnitrix is that Azmuth unlocked master control on his 18th birthday allowing him to change the appearance of the omnitrix and making it look like the original in a more gauntlet type because the dial was so much easier than the whatever that was in omniverse). I guess the only real big thing that would've changed the whole timeline is when the universe was destroyed and ben had to remake it which caused a huge butterfly effect.
The biomnitrix of Omniverse ben 10k was created by that specific ben with Grey matter, Brainstorm and Frankenstrike (BenViktor or however you say it) and is not made by asmuth
So that the difference between dimension and universe's, i already know timelines. But thx on helping me i could never tell the difference between dimension and universe.
In Ben 10, they are spaces in which a universe, or universes(an total multiverse), can be created and existed; in real life they can roughly be defined as regions in which specific immutable constants of reality, like the relationship between energy and mass, or the linear direction of time, are in effect: for instance, it theorised that our universe, as well as any potential alternate universes directly analogues to our own, exist in a 4 dimensional region, counting basic geometry and time: ie, all things in our universe move through 3D space and linear time, so 4 dimensions.
eh... that's the differnce in THIS show. Frankly it's rather ridiculous how much these terms flipflop around between media. My personal standard is that dimensions are the subset that are alterations of a law of the story or physics without relating to timelines themselves (ie. a dimension where the omnitrix causes the zombie thing ((don't at me, I haven't managed to get back into the series since getting distracted by school during the alien force release period irl))). This makes the most sense to me as the term dimension in physics refers to the coordinate a serious property can be in (ie. the x,y,z dimensions of space, and other hypothesized dimensions in which things can be located --preferablly excluding time, but Albert Einstein bullies me as a Newtonian-Physics fan) Universes are collections of all dimensions relevant to a media subject or at least relevant to events that are isolated from other "universes" in the subject of the show. Really I see that latter as such cases where there are layers of dimensions (after all, things can be isolated to variations of x and y coordinates but different in z coordinates). So from my perspective, all of this Ben 10 stuff happens in one universe and really all these dimension and universe term uses in Ben 10 are different scales of dimensions instead. Universe, from my perspective, remains as a scale relative to what is real or not according to all relevance applied in the logic of a story. If a "universe" ever merges with "other universes" they are instead just different dimensions and the universe is a larger scale than realized. The multiverse from my perspective is litterally every universe and possibility actually in existance, not as a matter of scaling things but as a matter of definition.To me the "marvel multiverse" is its own universe and to those within the "marvel multiverse" universe, it appears to be the true scale of the multiverse when, in fact, they just don't realize there's other possiblities (such as us who watch them in the "real" universe). I'm willing to agree with this video's explanation of timeline.
Kuro confused the definitions of universe, dimension and timeline established in the series, for example, dimensions occur in the same universe, but in different planes, timelines are "dimensions" that are the same as another, but with one or more different events, universe is a set of galaxies, whereas one unverse is not necessarily parallel to another, since it has been shown in UA that they can even have completely different laws of physics
"a universe where Ben sat alone at the lunch table*
XD that killed me!
Also I like to think that all the evil Ben's got to see the error of their ways and are trying to be good
Not everyone,the Bad Ben(the one with the black hair)would not have that mindset,Benzarro just seems to be infected,maybe If we cure him he will turn good
Last time we see mad ben he said he was gonna make everyone suffer then got arrested lol
Benzarro is infected?
Covid distancing ASAP!
15:34 oh my god that’s totally a constructicon in the back
Reused assets from TFA
I knew there were additional Ben10 series after the original. I watched the original as a kid and half or most of Alien Force when it came out. I certainly did not know there was this much craziness to the show! Now I want to just go on a Ben10 watching rampage!! Thank you for this video!!
“P and Q are weird. Sue me.” 😂👍🏼
I love how Timeline E, F, and G was basically a foreshadowing of the episode Back to the Pilot
me: oh hey I wonder what that show from my childhood was all about
me 10 min later rewinding the video every 10 seconds: WHAT is this MAN SAYING
The amount of hard work he did in his vid, he deserves likes
I love the fact that Ben understands that the omnitrix doesn’t make the hero.
I love the fact that most of the time paradox is very calm and that he has the same power as clockwork in omniverse where he can slow down time and walk really fast.
Him explaining the difference between all I them
Me already knowing the difference
-_-
Ben 10 is such a cool series and being older I can enjoy it for more than just a kid that turned into aliens.
Everytime Kuro changes his hairstyle in his videos, thats actually another timeline.
That was STUPID COMPLICATED...THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOVED IT!
I like to believe that every time we have a Ben 10K episode that takes place in the future, the future had been changed. Like I don’t believe that he would be married with a child as a workaholic who is on duty 24/7. His suddenly popping up again with a family we never knew about in his first appearance is likely the result of young Ben learning about how miserable his future self would be if he continued going the path he was on.
Yeah. I don't see Ken existing prior to Ben's first trip to the future. The Ben 10k we saw in Ken 10 has to be from a different future that Ben simply never interacted with. That or that episode was set 10 years after and both Ben 10k and Future Gwen aged extremely well.
1:40 so basically the null void is the galvin version of Australia
i got a headache and became an alternative professor paradox
😅😂
Mr. Ink Tank, Maybe Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated & Ben 10: Omniverse are set in the same universe! It is possible since they are 2 of the most well known Cartoon Network shows, they both have 2 live action made for TV movies, they both feature the universe being recreated with a few minor differences, & they both share Derrick J Wyatt's art style!
Thank you, Kuro the Artist for making Ben 10 videos. This is a great way to keep the Ben 10 fandom alive