ME 90 Deep Dive: vs GX 100; gap-less? true-bypass? how to change the fx order & much more...
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
- In this video we will really deep dive the functionalities and the characteristics of the the ME 90, also answering some questions I have received in the comment section of my ME 90 video review. For instance, we will check out how the ME 90 compares versus the GX 100 in terms of amp sound simulation, we will check out how to verify the value of a specific parameter when you change preset, how many usb channel we have at our disposal, etc
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⏰Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - ME-90 Q&A 1 - How many USB channels and how to record?
2:28 - ME-90 Q&A 2 - Can I change the order of the effect blocks?
3:58 - ME-90 Q&A 3 - Is the ME 90 gap less when changing preset?
4:34 - ME-90 Q&A 4 - Where does the effect loop is positioned?
5:05 - ME-90 Q&A 5 - How can I check out the value associated to a knob?
6:18 - ME-90 Q&A 6 - BOSS ME 90 vs BOSS GX 100
12:29 - ME-90 Q&A 7 - How to send one out the a PA and another to an Amp?
13:55 - ME-90 Q&A 8 - Is the ME90 true bypass?
14:36 - ME-90 Q&A 9 - How to use the ME90 with the 4CM?
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Hi, here you can check out my full review, with sound example, latency test, etc.: ua-cam.com/video/sdVbzCM0grk/v-deo.html
Leo, you are one of those responsible for my buying my GX-100 eight months ago. Your videos are always very educational and proactive. I draw you all the success in the world. A big hug from São Paulo, Brazil.
Hi Andrè, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you found the video interesting!!! Really appreciated!!
Hello I want t9 buy a boss unit. Do you thinkGX100 is better than ME80? I would like to test the GX .
@@cesarccoronel1156 I’m sorry, but my experience with boss units it referes to Boss GT1 and GX100. Let’s see what Leo has to say about it.
Your videos and your musicianship are on a whole different (upper) level. Thank you so much for all that you do!
You are welcome and thank you sooo much for these amazing and nice compliments!!!!
bro, just sayin', you deserve at least 500k sub. perfect job. impeccable. you literally touch on every single topic. keep going and you will find your worth soon
couple of giveaways might help you reach other people who don't know you. and I think you should make videos about guitars as well. that also would help you grow.
Hi, thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the channel and the video!
Thank you also for your suggestion! Actually I did some reviews about guitars....I want to do also some guitar comparisons....but I never found the time...maybe in the next weeks.
Thank you!
Thank you for the information. You do the most thorough reviews of anyone on youtube.
You are welcome and thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!!
Always so informative Leo! Great video as always. 👍🎸
Thank you so much!!!
Great video as always. Thanks for consistently making such informative and valuable content. 👍
Thank you soooo much!!!
Great review and video! Thank you very much! You are doing a fantastic job!
Thank you so much for these amazing compliments!!!
thank you as always for your super detailed reviews
You are welcome!!!
Great video Leo ! Its great that you tested if there are gaps between presets and that there isnt really any, its an important test that i hope you will make to every modeler in the future.
Hi Stefan, thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the video!
Yes, it's more work to do and in a dedicated video it's fine...I will see what I can do.
Thanks!
This reminded me of my Boss Me-25 and how I used to gig with it. I would get one of these if I didn’t already have an HX Stomp but, it did inspire me to find a used Me-25 and buy one today.
Thanks as always for the quality video and in depth comparison Leo!
You are welcome and thank you for sharing your experience and findings!
Leo. I watched the other video and so I thought I would check this one out as well.
Great videos sir.
You get great time no matter what you use it seems..
Very cool answers to the questions sir.
Thanks so much.
You are welcome and I'm happy that you found the videos interesting!
Such a good review.
Thank you sooo much!!!
Fantastic, and as useful as usual. It's beginning to look like the MX100 for me. Thanks.
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Thank you SO MUCH!!
You are welcome!
Great review thanks!
You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the review!!!
Great job Leo 👍
Thank you sooooo much!!!!
Love your very comprehensive videos Leo. I have a GT1000 core and as much as I love it, changing a parameter either live or at rehearsal is tedious. I love the idea that you can just adjust one or two knobs like an ordinary pedal and away you go. No one in the crowd will know or care if there is a difference between amp sims (if there is any). I’m selling my core and buying an ME90
I have a GT1000 and I am wondering if I am going to miss the routing possibilities of the unit…
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video! Thank you also for sharing your experience and your findings!
Hi Salvatore, it depends. With the GT 1000 you can build much more complex signal chains, with parallel effects etc...if this is an important feature....of course you are gonna miss it with the ME 90.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr thanks for the reply. I am wondering...if I use an amp with my GT1000 anyway (I can never get it to sound good by going direct to a PA...too many frequencies overlapping with the other band's members, so I use it with my Nextone Special), then maybe I should swap for a cheaper machine...
Get the GX
Best demo on ME-90 as far as I know... ! Question 3. Finally..., there is someone who touched on the topic "Gap when switching the presents" 👍as it seems to be a sensitive topic regardless Boss or whoever it is.... I almost felt like those companies asked the demonstrators NOT to touch on it 😆 Perhaps, you could try this again in a bit more musical content? like.. switching from a high gain lead with long delay and reverb patch to a crunch ~ cleanish patch with no delay or reverb using your foot (with a clean sock on it). Thanks again..!
Hi you are welcome, and I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!
Let me just say that the unit manages trails, therefore if I tried switching using delays, the result would be altered (in my opinion). On the other hand, trying with different amps / overdrives etc, would be interesting...maybe in the coming weeks..
Thank you!
Thanks, Leo..! Understand... the result would be altered (or the gap may be hidden by the trailed delay or reverb - if there was a gap). Trying with the different amps/overdrives would be very interesting...! A kind of exaggeratedly different present... Very much looking forward to it...!
Great demo Leo. I already have the GX100. 1 thing to note is the Gx!00 can stack multiple boosts/ODs /and delays/reverbs which makes it worth the price. Plus its not that much bigger or heavier. The only plus for the ME90 is it can use bateeries so don't have to worry about noisy power outlets.
Hi, thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!!!
Yes, good points!!! Thank you for sharing!
Leo you are great Lad:-)doing great job
Wow, I can't say thank you enough!!!! I'm really happy that you have appreciated the video!!!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr You welcome Sir:-)
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Another amazing video! Man you deserve more subscriptions! Really appreciate your videos and your passion!
Thanks for your job.
Do you think it's possible parallel signal chain in 2 amps with this me90?
Thank you sooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
The signal chain does NOT allow to have more than one amp in the chain.
Thank you!
Despite the new coming boss I love my headrush gigboard and I thing the amp academy of NUX , that I also own, is perfect for low budget pedalboard . Keep going Leo you are the most understand sofisticated reviewer!!!! And if I don't purchase everything you tested!!! 😂😂😂 Salutes from hot Greece!!!
Hi, thank you for sharing and I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!
Thanks!
Wow, you are welcome and thank you soooo much!!!!!
Leo great video and look forward to comparisons that you will do in the future. As I said before I have the head rush MX-5 which I do like but I think the boss is a little easier for me to see operate and deal with in the jam or live situation as opposed to an excellent recording unit like the MX-5 would be. Let me know what you think I might have to keep both.
The answer to question 7 is the key for those of us who use an amplifier as a sound monitor. thank you!!!
You are welcome
I actually planning to use this in pair with my sy1000 and another guitar synth effect
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Great video thx! Another video option would be comparing all of the effects to the GX-100. GX-100 doesn’t have the Freeze mode, CE1 Chorus or Tune Down
Thank you!
yes, that would be another interesting video!
I'm definitely buying a Me 90.
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Hi Leo, How can I check out the value associated to a knob? You can get the same result just holding the Edit button which i find easier. Also you can set the dials to what the patch has them set to by turning the dial while holding down Edit, when the dial matches the setting two tuning markers apear on the screen.
more videos answering questions.❤❤❤
Thank you for your suggestion!
what a great video Leo!! thank you! if at all possible, can you please compare Boss ME-90 to Valeton GP-200. Valeton is really cheap, but I wonder what advantages you get with the Boss. Thanks so much for all your work on this channel.
You are welcome!...tomorrow I will switch to "comparison video" mode....😀...I would start with ME 90 vs Trident...and then...let's see what you will ask for...
@@LeoGibsonGtrplease compare it with the valeton as it will be interesting what more ME90 can offer for a dearer price. Thank you 🙂
@@LeoGibsonGtr perfect. thanks so much Leo !!
Thanks, Leo! You have me convinced. Can't wait to get the ME-90 into my rotation. Can the effects loop handle stereo effects? (with TRS to 2x TR splitter cables like the Headrush MX-5?)
You are welcome!
As far as I know, the effect loop is mono only....I would say that, anyway, you can place time and mod effects after the ME 90...it's an interesting topic to further investigate...
well answered. Thx a lot.
COULD U MAKE A VIDEO JUST FOR THE LOOPER FUNCTIONS AND THE PITCH FILTER? can u play a momentary half tone with this pedal?
You are welcome!
Thank you for your suggestion! Maybe a short...
Leo.. I'm trying to decide between this model and the GXModel.. It's hard! 😛 I love the interface on the ME90 as it's more like a real amp with real pedals, but I like the other for all the options.. Difficult choice.
Thanks again for all the hard work you do sir and helping all of us guitar players!
Tim
Yes, it's and hard choice....they are both nice units....the GX is more advanced and you can build more complex signal chains and has more effects. The ME 90 has the touch sensitive interface which is super nice...
A@@LeoGibsonGtr Absolutely. I like both of them. I don't really record that often. Just for fun mostly and I play gigs at really small places that usually don't allow an amp. So, one must use some type of system that can be used by the mixing desk or the PA. The ME 90 I think would be more conducive to using via the PA without too much thought.. The GX though can really be tweaked ahead of time and gives me more options to really hone my tone! So it's very difficult. The GX also has the Micro Pitch adjustments with the delays and this means I wouldn't have to buy an Eventide micro pitch. I use this effect or want to a lot because I play cover songs with Van Halen and Steve Vai, etc, and this is important.. Plus I like to write originals with this effect and the haronizer, etc,..
Thanks again Leo.. Regards kind sir..
Tim
I see...good points towards the GX....😀
Is the drop tune effect and the feedbacker effect in the gx 100 like it is in the me 90??
Such a detailed review, thank you for putting this together! I had one question: does a recorded phrase loop carry over in memory mode if i change from preset 1 to 2 or 3, if all are configured to have a phrase looper?
Thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!!!
Good question....I don't think it is possible...but I have to check it out myself to be sure...
H!!!just bought a BOSS ME 90 mutieffects, and i it there's a preamp part with very good emulated 11 amps I can't use with my without loop VOX AC15C1!!!so can I use my Me90 with a FENDER AB BOX, one cable to the AMP and another cable from the ab box to the PA,,???Bu where do I have to put ten multi ti get effects in both sides???ALAIN
I want to buy this ME90 . This is a great demo of it. But boss dynamic range is not good for me. Overall nice very useful informative video thanks for that Leo.
You are welcome and I'm happy that you found the video informative!
The GX has the best sounding/feeling sounds of any Modeler! And latency is almost nill.
@@ahighervibe4086thanks for the info I would like to test the gx too. Maybe is best for me . ✌️
Hi,I looking for the best sounding unit just for home use, for recording songs over backing tracks,Nux mg-30,Valeton Gp200LT ,Moore Ge 250 or Boss me-90?
Ciao Leo, thanks for your good video. Where we can found the tricks as this one of read the parameter value by press together exit and edit buttons? Why the send and return are only for pedals and not for 4CM? Thanks again for your job.
Hi, you are welcome.
I'm not sure if I have properly understood the first question...I found it myself with trial and errors...someone told me that for the ME 80 there was a combination of buttons that worked...therefore I tried many different combinations for the ME 90 until I found the right one.
As regards the second question, actually the unit does not have GROUND LIFT switch for eliminating ground noise in certain situations when using the unit with an amp with the 4 cable method and in fact Boss does not say anything about the 4CM method...However it does not mean you cannot use ME-90 with 4 cable method.
Thanks
Ciao Leo, ottime informazioni come sempre. Quello che non ho capito è se il Tap tempo è globale e se può essere usato anche in modalità preset. Se non sbaglio la ME80 per usare il tap tempo doveva essere in modalità pedal oltre a dover premere il pedale per due secondi. Sono queste piccole cose che mi fanno preferire la sorella maggiore GX100. Anche se usi suoni semplici con catene poco elaborate riesci a mettere tutto a posto grazie alle maggiori possibilità.
The GX sounds so good
Thank you for sharing!
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How do we control the noise gate from the panel without using the app? I read the manual but I couldn't see it.
Hi, you have to press Bank up + Bank down while holding the edit button.
It is in the "parameter" manual.
Thank you!
Amazing Content! Thx for that...
Question:
Did u ever check the Valeton GP 200?
I'm looking for a solution to controll the Tonex ..
The Valeton GP200 got a FX Loop and also Midi Function and a great Price...
Put the Tonex in the Loop,, using the effects of the GP200 and change presets via Midi ..
What about latency?
Help would be appreciated.. thanks Leo
Thank you, I'm really happy that you like the content!
Yes, I have done a lot of videos about the GP 200 and also comparison videos. I suggest these two:
> here you can check out my review video of the GP200: ua-cam.com/video/_v5S5oN_Kz8/v-deo.html
> here you can check out my latency video, where there is also the latency of the GP 200: ua-cam.com/video/oU0-_3Hub9o/v-deo.html
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr thanks...
Hi Leo. I have a question for you. I recently sold my Helix LT and have a back order on the new Boss ME90. Do you think it is better sounding for clean and light breakup than the Nux MG30. It’s really only going to be used in the studio for delivering stems and silent stage gigs going direct (not into an amp). I am an older player and the user interface and size are factors. I also use Tonex and Helix Native for recording in the box. Sometimes it’s too much of a load on the computer. I know this is a subjective thing but I trust your ear. Thanks, Mat
Hi Mat, it's hard for me to give you black or white opinion as the sound difference may depend on your taste, that are different than mine. I would suggest you to check out my comparison NUX Trident vs BOSS ME 90: ua-cam.com/video/IG3gtk4T0LM/v-deo.html
The Trident sounds similar to the MG 30
Thank you so much!!
hello, i would like to know if i can also use an acoustic guitar/Bass guitar on the Boss ME90.. thank You
Hi, there are no bass amps simulations in the ME 90, therefore for me it's a "no go" for bass guitar.
As regards acoustic, I'm not quite sure. I mean, you can load your own IRs in the unit, therefore one IR can be dedicated to the acoustic guitar. I mean, if your guitar has a piezo, you can go in the ME 90, switch off the amp, and use an IR dedicated to the acoustic guitar.
Thank you!
ciao Leo, grazie sempre per i tuoi video e il tuo impegno, vorrei chiederti se per un bassista , come me in questo caso, ritieni che le simuluazioni degli amplificatori della ME 90 siano abbastanza buone ( in termini di qualità e quantità) o mi indirizzeresti verso un altro modeler, esculudendo fractal che so bene essere top ma che purtroppo è fuori dal mio badget . grazie in anticipo per l'attenzione
Ciao Antonio, grazie a te!
Purtroppo per adesso l'ME 90 non ha simulazioni di ampli per basso....quindi non credo sia la scelta migliore. Se vuoi restare su BOSS, puoi verificare il GX 100, che (se non ricordo male) ha simulazioni di ampli per basso.
Grazie!
@@LeoGibsonGtr 😂😂per fortuna ho chiesto diciamo che sei stato “dirimente” , se invece della Boss dovessi spostarmi su altro, tenendo conto che mi orienterei sui 600 euro di spesa avresti qualcosa da consigliarmi? Grazie sempre
Ciao, BOSS GX 100 ha anche ampli per basso, oppure Line 6 HX stomp o Ampero Stomp II.
Grazie a te!
Very instructive demo!!!what happens if i use the me 90 preamp section switch on in my vox, just in front of it????thanks alain
In this case I would use the ME 90 in the effect return of your VOX, using the ME 90 as a preamp and effect unit.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr no effect return in the vox ac15c1
In this case you should switch off the preamp block and the IR blocks of the ME 90.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Would it be possible to use and A/B BOX PEDAL to choose either amp or PA alternatively???
Hey Leo... Fender Mustang Floor....Yes old One buy valid like old RP1000...
Hi, thank you for your suggestion!
Great informative video as always, thank you Leo.
How about a comparison between Boss ME-90 vs Nux Trident ?
Looks like they are similar concepts.
You are welcome and I'm happy that you find the video informative.
...tomorrow I will switch to "comparison video" mode....😀...starting from ME 90 vs Trident....
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Between this, the GT1000 core and the boss ME90 which is a better option in terms of:
- getting an almost mix-ready sound that I can directly plug into an audio interface to play /record
- getting a great sound when connecting it to a PA speaker (not an amp) if I intend to go ampless on stage
mix sound: I would say that they are on pair
PA: I would say GT 1000 (I mean the regular one), as it has balanced out
Thanks!
Can we change parameters of reverb more than one knob in the app?
Hi, I'm sorry, I have not understood the question
They are asking if there's more control of reverb if using the app, or its still just a single control of more or less reverb.
wow the me-90 has some weird distorted fuzz..i wanted to like this me-90 but this tone at 9:26 killed it for me. as the level rises it doesnt sound as clear and dynamic like the marshall does. Some kind of compressed boxy distorted fuzz that surrounds the tone.
Ciao Leo ho appena comprato questo me90 e, venendo da una cultura old style, di base mi trovo bene…ottimo suoni.
2 Domande:
se entro direttamente nel mixer la qualità del suono ne perde?
E per quanto riguarda avere una spia sul palco se contemporaneamente entro nel mixer?
Grazie
Ciao,
direi che è sicuramente ok andare direttamente nel mixer, basta ricordarti di tenere la simulazione della cassa attiva. Ok anche avere la spia...le spie tipicamente sono casse FRFR, quindi proprio quelle da utilizzare quando vuoi collegare i modeler ad una casa.
Grazie
@@LeoGibsonGtrGrazie mille! Quindi un output va al mixer e uno alla frfr suppongo.
L’uscita è già bilanciata o serve una DI?
Grazie ancora
Should I get this or just wait for the IR-2 that I’ve ordered?
I have a couple other Boss pedal I want to stick on a pedal train nano+ sized board, but just the IR-2, board and power supply will run me just about as much as a ME-90. With the ME-90 I’ll be ahead by about 56 effects, but might also introduce unnecessary option paralysis. WWYD?
Well, hard to tell...probably I would go with the ME 90, as an all in one unit is more "easy"...but of course with the IR2 you would have the possibility to use your own specific effect pedals...
@@LeoGibsonGtr thanks a lot for that answer Mr. Gibson. And also thank you for your very in depth videos. I’ll have to consider the ME-90.
You are welcome!
Boss Me 90, Boss GX 100 or Boss iR 2 only amplifiers and speakers?
I need to do a direct comparison...
Anyone know if you can connect your guitar to the ME-90 wirelessly and the ME-90 wirelessly to the amp?
Hi, you can with a wireless system to be purchased separately....as far as I know.
Thanks Leo, so two systems would be needed? > Guitar to ME-90 and ME-90 to Amp? @@LeoGibsonGtr
Yes. I'm not 100% sure, as I don't have tried to do it myself.
Thank you!
Thanks! @@LeoGibsonGtr
Do you need the bluetooth dongle to acess the boss tone studio
You can use the app on the computer for which you just need to connect the ME 90 to your computer via USB.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr thanks im definetly gonna subscribe you give out good perspective and reviews
Thank you sooo much, your subscription really means a lot to me!!!
Grande Leo! Ho la Valeton GP 200 (per "colpa" tua😁) di cui sono soddisfatto, mi diceva però un mio compagno di band che il fatto di non poter mettere l'octaver in parallelo (cosa fattibile con la GX100) è un limite... In che senso? Volevo prendere anche la ME 90 per averne due senza svenarmi, e anche per la praticità, ma anche le Me 90 non splitta il segnale. Ma è davvero una cosa così importante?
Ciao, si, anche la ME 90 non splitta il segnale. Sicuramente la possibilità di usare catene effetti parallele offre diverse opportunità interessante, come poter usare due ampli paralleli, usare delay e reverbero in parallelo etc. In quanto allo split per usare l'octaver in una catena del segnale e non in un'altra ... non saprei....dovrei sapere gli effetti inseriti prima e dopo.
Grazie!!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr grazie a te!
Leo ma per te la ME90 può essere una buona scelta anche per la chitarra acustica?
Ciao, direi di si, caricando un IR di chitarra acustica invece di un cabinet e spegnendo la simulazione di amplificatore.
@@LeoGibsonGtr pensa che ho la Valton Gp 200... avrei forse preferito la Me90 per la praticità... vale la pena cambiare secondo te? Come qualità sono lì mi pare, e la GP200 la uso pure per il basso, o sbaglio? Grazie mille
When you got a GT-8 from 2005, here is absolutely no need to sell it for the ME-90.
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Thought I was the only one with a GT-8 lol I ordered the me90 should have it in a couple weeks until then ...may plug my GT8 back in.
@@mikepaz8322 We're in good company. The best player in this world, Nuno B. relies on the GT-8.
And lets be honest: Boss sounds always the same.
Right on..I didn't know that was gonna sell it to someone who might need it but perhaps I'll keep it🤷♀️
Ive got an me80, would love to hear the pre amp comparison with this and the Me90 to see if its worth the upgrade
Hi, I don't have the ME 80, but here we are basically going from COSM modeling to AIRD, and this video could give you an idea of the changes: ua-cam.com/video/f0mXQV7fjsA/v-deo.html
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks Leo 👍
Does it work well with Tonex ?
I've not tried yet...it should work, but I'm not 100% sure.
Why would you need ME90 if you already have Tonex. Sorry I don’t get what benefits that would give
@@tommywallbergthe effects of course
So many to choose from. I'm confused 🤔
Yes, there is plenty of choice...
Im sure this is a fantastic gear. But, in my country, it will be priced very close to the gx100. Anything around 75%. My guess is based in the actual prices of the ME 80 and the gx100. I live in Brazil.
Hi, thank you for sharing...yes, the price may vary from country to county...
Hi, Latency?
Hi, it's in the description section of my demo review: ua-cam.com/video/sdVbzCM0grk/v-deo.html
Thanks!
I dont know how anyone could purchaser the ME-90...it looks like something out of the 80's!
That’s exactly why I bought it: it looks like the 80’s, with all those dedicated knobs and no endless menus, but it sounds like the 2020’s.
Boss should really Upgrade their gt 1000 for this usecase. Than they would soll ir for another 5 years
H!!!just bought a BOSS ME 90 mutieffects, and i it there's a preamp part with very good emulated 11 amps I can't use with my without loop VOX AC15C1!!!so can I use my Me90 with a FENDER AB BOX, one cable to the AMP and another cable from the ab box to the PA,,???Bu where do I have to put ten multi ti get effects in both sides???ALAIN