Here is the link on eBay if anyone is interested www.ebay.com/itm/Russound-ADP-1-2-Speaker-Level-to-Line-Level-Adapter-/193137291271?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Hi fella, I have a question please? Can I connect my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110(no pre out) to the preamp Denon PRA-1500(pre oot yes) in the same way with this adapter so that I can use the preamp to connect my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 which I want to drive my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2? Thank you in advance! Best regards!
@@georgiungoryanov7371 you might be able to connect it that way. I have heard some people have connected two receivers together this way so it’s possible but I can’t say for sure because I’ve never tried it.
Take it from a noob like me. It works. I was about to spend easily over 1500 until I watched this simply cuz cuz my AVR didnt have preouts and was lacking power. I spent 100 on the russound adapters, 15$ for RCA's used spare speaker wire, and simply used my existing Denon reciever. I bought a monolith amp and the sound is 10x better than just the AVR. It crazy that your vids are pretty much the only ones on UA-cam explaining this
@@johnhighfield5064 the quality of your amplifier and receiver will determine your sound quality. Of course speakers too. But i feel most people have a decent receiver and just want more power so it doesn’t change the sound quality so much as it does add more heightened details. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian thanks for your video. I have a Denon Dnp-800ne network streamer with variable rca output where I can control the volume output on remote. I got a Behringer A800 amp and connected the variable rca output from the streamer to the rca input of the Behringer A800. The sound is pure and linear but want to use my Denon pma-800 amp as preamp as it has bass and treble control as well as the phono MC that I use for my vinyl player. The streamer gives 4volt max output rms on the variable output What voltage will the speaker to line level give?
Thank you for helping us with this component. You have saved me lots of money. My Sony Receiver STR AN1000 does not have preouts and it was struggling to drive my Klipsch 806FA 150watt speakers. Using this I connected my Crown 1502 power amplifier between my receiver and speaker, and it is working like a charm. I can hear sounds which did not exist earlier.
I also have the STR AN1000 and want to add a power amp. Do you know if you can use the Zone 3 output as a pre out? I’m only running 2 channels. Or is this the best solution? Thanks.
I have one of these adapters because I wanted to add an external amp to a 2 channel stereo receiver and I tell you what it is one of the best things I've ever purchased in my life. Matter of fact it was your original video that helped me make that decision. Thanks!!!
@@kellywatkins6409 I'm using a Crown XLI 1500 and I have it putting out about 145 watts per channel in 8 ohms. I don't think it would have any issue with the 250 watts. I may even be pushing a little less than that to be honest to avoid ear fatigue.
I have a Yamaha 5.1 made in circa 2005. I love it and the sound fields/processor that it has. Sounds great. And I recently purchased a set of Fluance signature series bookshelf speakers and they really good! (Along with Sony sawm 40 sub) Niw when I crank the volume up in the higher “rocking out level 11” the speakers seem to ever so slightly distort. So I’m probably going to invest into a Emotiva BasX A2 channel power amp. This video greatly helped me out on my decision whether to me me old Yamaha receiver. Thanks a million. Eventually I may go with incorporating Yamahas WXC-50 but until then, my smart tv has done an excellent job of acting as a streamer. And the rest I just listen to cds and tapes/vinyl records. I’m just a 2.1 kinda guy. Thanks again cheers 🍺 from Houston
2.1 systems I think are underrated. I use one myself. Glad to have helped your decision making process. Thanks for watching and commenting. I love Houston. I have lots of family there. Can’t wait to go back.
@@edwinrijos6679 I did. On my initial set up I used cheap weak wires. But then I switched to better quality rca cables the hum went away. Could also be some interference on the power line. Hope that helps
Quite new to this hobby. Was looking for an answer to connect my AVR without a centre pre-out to my soon to purchase emotiva basx A3. Answered it perfectly. Thank you.
Been using these in the car audio world for years so you could use the car's original head unit (that didn't have low outs) when adding amps. I also used it for an Onkyo TX8511 receiver. Worked great but it did change the sound slightly and the single sent to the amp was a little hot. The issue is that these hi to low outputs are not made for a lot of power. The Onkyo I used it on had 120 watts per channel which is a little out of its power range and why it was a bit hot. As I said these were made so the factory radios in a car could stay not screwing up the dash with a new head unit. Most factory radios are lucky to be 40 watts that are in its range. Just watch how much power you put into the Russo and you will be fine. There are other hi to low converter makers out there but be careful some have extremely low watt numbers that they can handle.
Wow you are saving people TONS if money with this hack. Get a cheap receiver with all the up to date Decoders/Formats + nice amp and you’re off to the races!
Thank you fella!Very kind of you! You saved me a lot of money and worries.I connected my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110 with my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 to drive on max my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2.I hate my neighbors!😅 I do appreciate it!Your video is very helpful! Best wishes!
My reciever is ok with 8 and 6 ohms. Im looking at some 4ohm towers. Im curious if i can take those fronts out to the adapter, and have an amp supply 4ohms without messing with the receiver? I was hoping it would all fall on the added amp. what do you think?
@Audiolympian awesome thank you so much! im surprised therent sleeker looking adapters with cover for this exact application. Id love to get better fronts that are 4 ohm without an entire new receiver. Is sound distribution for dolby playback unaffected with this adapter, like for L and R fronts?
@ yes, completely unaffected. I agree that there should be something out there with more eye appeal. Honestly I was thinking of making and selling some myself.
@@docjohnson3980 good question. It doesn’t sound that way to me of course I’m not using any measuring tools and all amp are different. The amp I use is quite powerful. So if I do loose any it’s not very noticeable
@@Audiolympian Just want to say thank you responding back. I'm going to purchase them now thanks to your video. Just know you saved me some serious $$$$ I was getting ready to spend over 1500.00 on a AVR.... Cheers 🥂 you definitely earned my thumbs up and I'm definitely going to be subscribing. Wishing you nothing but great success 🙏
One con would probably be having another device in the chain that could pick up interference. Maybe another would be the device could burn out after so long although I’ve never had a problem with mine and I’ve had them for a few years now. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
I would like to purchase these adaptors for my new Sony AR and old Kenwood Amp/EQ; question: my L/R speakers to not have RCA inputs; only speaker wire. Do I need 2 adaptors; one for in to amp, one for out to the speakers? Thanks again!
@@OliverDirks that’s ok if your speakers don’t have rca connections. One adapter is for two speakers. So if you’re only connecting 2 speakers then one adapter is fine. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Doesn't Zone 2 have pre-out or line level output that you could use? I realize that you are demonstrating the functionality of the product, but it may be a good idea to say "ingore" zone 2 for this demonstration.
Hi, thanks for the video! I assume that, with the adapter in between, I can run my NAD C315BEE, which does not have a pre-out, into the line-in of my LOEWE Klang 1 Sub? Any enclosure available separately for the adapter? Cheers, Moritz
I haven’t tried using it with a sub but it should work. I haven’t found any specific enclosures or housings for the adapter but I used one from partsexpress.com. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@davejuse774 thanks. I do have a new updated version of this video coming. I didn’t think of putting that in it, but I will now at your request. Thanks for the idea and for watching.
Was so excited but it didn't last. Hooked everything up and it worked great for a moment and man did the amp make a difference. But every time there was a Surg in loudness in whatever I was watching the receiver would shut off and go into power save mode. This happened at least 4 times. Thanks for the video it was worth a try.
If your receiver has a headphone jack, you can use that as a pre-out. So, the cable you'd need, is a phono plug (headphone plug) to RCA. It's not "clean" looking but, it 100% works. You just need to remember to disable your selected speakers on the receiver.
I know this is an older video. Anyone interested can build one of these and make it less bulky. Take a short length of speaker wire. Connect the positive lead to one leg of a 1w 3.9k ohm resistor and another short wire from the other leg to the positive connection of a female RCA connector (solder or screw terminal style). Do the same for the negative lead except using a 1/2w 430 ohm resistor with the other leg going to the negative terminal of the same RCA connector. 2 resistors (1 per lead) of differing resistance. Solder the speaker wires to the resistors. Then, you can shrink tube the resistors and joints or wrap with electrical tape or tessa tape. Plug in your rca cable to the diy connector. Connect the exposed speaker lead to your speaker output of your receiver. No need for a bulky plate. You could make 5 or 7 of these for %10 or so combined. I had to pause the video to read the resistors and see how they are connected. Wire > resistor > rca connector. The parts are cheap on Amazon or other sites online. I hope this helps.
@@BrettGlass it depends on the receiver, usually the ones that have a line out output is used for a record player if it doesn’t have a dedicated phono output. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Hi, if i have a 7.1 receiver but only want to power the 2 front speakers, do still have to hook up 3 adapters? at 10:45 you say " now if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 you will need 3 adapters". I ordered 1 adapter just now from crutchfield. I will see how it goes. I am hoping I don't have to buy 3 adapters to just get it to work on a 7.1 receiver, because then I am spending $120 basically for 3 adapters...might as well just use that money towards a new receiver with preouts.
Yes that will work fine. One adapter for just the 2 speakers works fine. If that’s all you want to do is power front mains. What I meant is if you wanted all 5 channels connected to an external amp then you would need 3 adapters.
You definitely could try it but I think the capacitors, resistors and diodes play an important role in transferring the signal so it doesn’t have too much noise distortion. But it certainly could work as a quick solution. Thanks for watching
Thanks. If you only want to use one channel just use one side of the device. That’s how I use it for my 5 channel set up. 3 devices = 2 left channels, 2 right channels and one center. The cool thing is you have an extra input for the future if you want to add another speaker. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Great great video. Question in a 5.2.2 set up can I leave the atoms speakers connected to the receiver while diverting to surrounds center and Fronts to the power amp.
These could also be used to hook up a subwoofer to a receiver lacking a sub out or high level inputs. You'd probably have to sacrifice the "B channel" on the receiver/integrated amplifier.
Zone 2 has pre-outs...but if you you get a decent receiver to begin with or upgrade, it would probably output comparable power (or possibly more) to the Emotiva XPA 200...but the Emotiva is also only $500...Your receiver is the heart of your entertainment system...everything runs through it, so it's best to start with a nice one and work your way out from that with the rest of the system and components...with that being said, this is still a good work around with budget restrictions
@@tombergman4506 That depends on the receiver...some give you full control of those, some only limited...since my receiver has zone 2 and 3 that can be incorporated into the surround configuration, I have full control of those outputs (Integra DTR 8.8)
i will be using this video as guidance for my hookup connecting the front LR speakers and center when i gert another adapter for the center hope it works out THANK YOU!!!
audiolympian i have the emotiva BasX A3 it has 3 channels where am i placing the RCA cables 1-2-3 im only hooking up two channels the front left and right the center at a later time would really appreciateyour help thank u
@@Joereyes1 I would just connect to 1 & 2. Just make sure the speaker cable from the receiver to the adapter are in line with the rca cable output. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@gempak18 I’ve had a few other people tell me they have used a car audio adapter but I personally haven’t done it. My only issue I would see with it is the design is made for car voltage at 12 volts not 120. But it could work.
I have Sony STR DH 550 AV receiver and a Yamaha MX 50 power amplifier as my subwoofer amp. I was thinking of getting a preamplifier for the power amp and dump the AV Receiver. However after watching this video I believe getting the connector and using the AV receiver as a preamp would be far better. So from the AV Receiver front speaker output jack to the connector then to the power amp would serve my purpose.
This is exactly what I was trying to find. Tired of making my receiver work so hard. She's an old gal, and needs to rest 😁. Great video. Would have liked to have seen a before and after db gain when connecting and also a description of what you heard differently when connecting the amp. But regardless, liked and subscribed. 👍
Thanks for the support. This video and the one I did a year ago are a couple of my top videos. Perhaps I could do a part 3 and go over some of your suggestions. Thanks for watching again subbing.
@@Audiolympian would you know if putting an amp on a center channel and making the receiver work less, will that provide other channels the watts it saved from putting the amp on the center?
That’s a tough but good question to answer. Yes and no, depending on your receiver. Adding an amp to you center channel will take some strain off of your receiver so it can push the other channels easier but it won’t disperse the watts out to among the other channels the way one would think it does so not like an even divide through the other channels . But it will take some of that and push extra power to the other channels when needed. But probably only an extra 5-10 watts or whatever it needs for that exact moment like a car crash, explosion stuff like that. Good question. Hope that helps
@@wcg686s the amps still out out the same amount of power as they normally would. The adapter just reduces the amount of power that goes to the separate amp. I am not sure how or if the ohms load is effected. That being said. Alot of AVRs that have pre-outs do not turn off Thier internal amps if you are using the pre-outs. So either way if your AVR has pre-outs or not unless it's a higher end unit the amps are running regardless.
Thanks. I did when I first connected multiple devices. Until I screwed them on a wood plank and kept them stable and added a cover to it. Now, no problems at all. Thanks for watching
Good question. I would think you can use it with tv audio as well, as long as the tv has speaker output terminals. But I haven’t tried it. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Thank you so much .Yes the right and left but also there are adapters for other audio output to right and left.As the adapter you mentioned in your video.
@@thomasboone2657 you only can if the receiver has the proper inputs. Connecting an equalizer is tricky because it doesn’t just connect between the receiver and speakers it has to loop. But it will only be in stereo as well. I’m doing a video on that topic now. Thanks for watching
I’ve had a few other people say the same thing. But I don’t know if anyone has done it. My only concern with a mobile device is that it’s designed for 12 volts and maybe 30 amps. Not 120v and 1500 amps. Other than that seems like it would work. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Hey i just bought two can you explain to me how to hook up the center channel i have a marantz 5 channel amp how would i hook it up to my denon 7.2
@@DCProductions77 sure. One adapter will connect your front left and right speakers to your amp. Then on the other adapter just connect the center speaker wire from your receiver to one side of the adapter and then one RCA cable from the adapter to your amp. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you! I am being given a Sony stereo amplifier. I have a Sony 5.1 AVR and it seems it is not putting the power out on the front left and right channels, but the center is plenty loud. My AVR does not have pre-amp outs though. Is this modification going to lessen the demand on the AVR amplifier? Can I leave the center channel on the AVR or should I try and run it off the stereo amp? It does have a zone A and B that you can run at the same time and some people do two stereo sets or have that send the signal a sub because this stereo receiver is technically a 2.0 not a 2.1. Can I leave the Sub on the AVR? Do you leave your amplifier volume control to max and then control master volume via AVR only?
Hey @nathanaelcole8466 thanks for the questions. So no this set up will not lessen the load of the receiver because it uses the existing signal after output. You can leave the center on the receiver but it will have lesser volume than the speakers connected to the amp. But if it’s very noticeable or not will depend on your amp. For example I use a sun fire amp with 200 watts per channel and my center channel is just connected to my receiver and the difference of sound is noticeable but not unbearable, for me anyway. Also my amps don’t have volume controls but if the did I’d have them all the way up and use the receiver for sound controls. And yes leave your sub on the receiver, as long as it’s a self powered sub. If it’s a passive sub then you may want to connect to an amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
You're the man! Thank you for the quick and thorough answers. I ordered one and will have my new stereo later tonight to start messing around with. @@Audiolympian
I have a denon receiver with two zones. I want to add additional speakers in my backyard pool but be able to play the same music as where my receiver is located. I don't have the preouts on my reciever. Can I do whay you did in the video and connect the receiver to a whole home amplifier to be able to play the same music on my addional speakers and do you think they will be a delay between the music inside and outside the house by doing so?
It should work as long as your home amplifier has the additional channels. As far as a delay in sound, that would depend on the distance, which could be adjusted by the receiver. Other than that I don’t think there would be a delay. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
It’s about time you made a video that shows the proper way to hook it up the first video was ridiculous. It was just you showing off your sound system and all the toys you have that video didn’t help us at all.. this is the proper way to make a video about that. Thank you you get a thumbs up.👍👍👍👍 that’s all we want to know.
Haha. Sorry about that in the first video. You’re not the first person to tell me that. When I made that video my channel was still quite small very few subscribers, so I was still trying to attract viewers and I didn’t think that many people out there would be that interested in the adapter. Not too long after people were asking me questions about it. That’s when I decided to make another video on it. Hope it helped you out. Thanks for watching
What I have in mind is if I want to transfer the load of the front speakers to an external amp, I’d follow your instructions, and leave the surround speakers on the receiver. That should get some load off of the receiver, right?
@@MARKC0R3 as far as i know zone 2 is just for two speakers, stero. That should be ok if you run a 2.0 or a 2.1 setup for music but not useful for 5.1 or a 5.1.2 setup!
@@corytodd1690 good question. It doesn’t necessarily give more headroom to the other speakers because it just re-routes the actual signal but every receiver is designed to do that automatically. Some do it better than others. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian I guess what I'm asking is since its not powering those two speakers does it improve the power available to the other ones. Sorry if this is what you just answered
@@corytodd1690 no problem. The way the device works, is you take speaker wire from the receiver and connect it to the device. Because of that you are still using the power of the receiver. So essentially you could say you are doubling up on the wattage of the front main speakers. For example if the receiver is 75 wpc and you connect a 50 wpc amp this way, it’s now 125 wpc on the front channels. You don’t bypass the amplification in the receiver. Now, if the receiver has preouts and you connect the amp to the receiver’s preouts then you would bypass the receiver’s amp section and now are using and external power source for amplification and leaving extra headroom for the other channels because the main channels are not being powered by the internal power supply. Hope that makes sense.
Sorry for the late response. Apparently I didn’t hit send. Your question is interesting. I’m not sure if it will work, seems like it could but the adapter has specific networking to transfer the signal properly. However, you could be right. Thanks for the question and watching
Thanks for answering my question 😊I have another question 😁 is it the adapter that you use is same with hi-to- low level signal converter??😊it is with the same rca out and speaker line in connection with it..I just saw that on amazon 😊Thank you 😊
No , do not use rca directly to speaker output and connect it to power amp , you will certainly destroy your power amp, this adaptor has resistors connected between rca and signal coming out of receiver so it is safe for power amp. Early in my years i have done this mistake with a car audio, connected the old radio from car directly to an amplifier trough the speakers output and destroyed the power transistors inside amplifier.
Thanks for the excellent video. Do you know where I can find a small case for this? I am only getting one and I'd like to cover it up. Don't know why they couldn't just put it in a simple case.
A lot of people ask that. I’m making a video about that topic. But in short zone two requires another preamp or receiver or main device of some kind to produce sound. Thanks for watching
Thanks you just respond my answer , I already got one for my main channel, order a second adapter for my other 2 channel amp but wasn't sure for using on my center or surround channel
So- you need this sort of devise cause if you go directly from a Speaker wire to a Power amp (Input) it Humms right? Exactaly what I was lookin for..thanks
I have a good question for ya- I listen to "all channel stereo" often for music on my 7.2.2 setup. Would adding a second amp for the front two tower speakers be a smart move... considering they are capable of much more power?
Good question. So here are some factors that will determine if you’ll hear a difference. Amount of power from the amp, room size, distance from the speakers. You probably won’t notice much if your in a medium size room that’s a bit open and you not too close to any specific speakers. Smaller closed room, yes you’ll hear a difference. Now for amp power, you may not notice a big difference at 100 watts. But 150 watts you should notice a difference and 200 and above you’ll definitely notice a difference. Also depending on your receiver you can adjust the db levels of each speaker as well. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
It’s possible but I’m not completely sure. I did try using all of the other outputs my receiver had and none of them worked. But that was just me. Thanks for watching
Hi. Great channel with practical info. I have a set up similar to this but with a pair of Klipcsh speakers with the high low connectors. Where would the extra set of speaker cables need to be connected for that?
Thanks for checking out my channel. The extra cable placement would depend on the amplifier you have or perhaps use small jumper cables for simplicity. Or you’d probably have to use splitters from the adapter to the amplifier to help create an additional signal path. This might degrade the signal strength though. Hope that helps. Again thanks for watching
Good question, it is getting power but it’s absorbed by the more powerful amplifier. Because the amplifiers in a receiver don’t operate the same as a class ab, d or h amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Hey Riley, Kind of both. This set up doesn’t totally by pass the avr’s channels it’s more of an enhancement. So the potentiometer is on the avr but it’s sound path is going through to the amp. Which is why if you connect this device the two channels it’s connected to will be louder than the other channels. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Interesting. So what I'm trying to do is use my AVR by itself for movies, then have an amplifier connected via a line-level converter that I'll use for music (turntable). Turntable connected to AVR, line-level converter coming from my L+R speaker connections on AVR to the external amplifier, speaker wire from L+R connections on amp to an amp switch ("A" side of amp switch), then finally to speakers. Speaker wire will also be connected to L+R on AVR, leading to "B" side of amp switch. Amp switch lets me toggle between using the AVR (movies) and the AVR+amp (music). I've been using the amp switch for a while now with the AVR and amp completely seperate of each other, but I want to take advantage of the room correction software on my AVR, and I think this is the only way, unless I've made an error in my thinking. Kinda complicated, but I like the extra power for music, plus the amplifier has cool lights, haha.
@@MFRiley gotcha. So it seems like it will work the way you want I too as long as your “switchers” are basically pass through devices, which it sounds like they are. If you do it let me know how it works out. I’d be curious to hear your results. And yes amp lights are very cool 😎
@@Audiolympian Pass through it is (Solupeak P2). Figuring this all out was quite complicated as I'm not super knowledgeable about the technical side of audio. Didn't even know something like this was possible until I started digging. Audio is such a rabbit hole. Now that I'm looking into it even more, I guess I could use the external amp for both movies and music. Use it as part of my surround setup for movies. Let the amp handle some of the load of the left and right channels, and the AVR can focus more on the other channels. Would this be worthwhile, or am I splitting hairs at that point?
@@MFRiley could be splitting hairs depending on which amplifier it is and your room. Yes it is a lot and a very deep rabbit hole. My advice is take your time, research a lot but enjoy what you have and get to know it. Learn all the specs. That will give you good insight about other gear as well.
Yes. Essentially it does turn the receiver to a preamp. You might be able to rig it up so you could use bare wire to the amp but the adapter has resistors and filters so it’s a safer connection. But anything is possible too. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian I was about to buy 2 125w Marantz monoblocks.Thought was to combine my Yamaha 125w per making combined 250w per channel. Speaker out into amp via RCA.
Are those like line level / high to low level adapter used in car stereos to add a power amp to a factory stereo without preouts? Same concept.. I have a Onkyo NR 686 that don’t have preouts .. It has Bluetooth an Wi fi
Yes the same thing. The only difference is these are designed to handle 120v the car devices are designed for 12v. I’ve thought about getting and auto line level and. Trying it in the house just to see if it would work but those take a hot, ground and neutral intake and I’m not an electrical engineer. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian, thank you so much for this video but am still confused. I bought the Russound but still don't know what to do. I currently have a Marantz Cinema 70s so would want to use the pre outs to power my LR with another AVR (Sony Mutiki STR KM7, 7.1),they don't come with pre outs. So I have the RCA Cables coming from the Pre outs of the Marantz to the pre outs part of the adapter, so what do I connect to the speaker wire part of the adapter, is it the speakers wire directly for the speakers or the speaker wires goes to the Sony AVR? Not sure, confused
No problem my friend. Happy to help. You take the actual speaker wire from your marantz to the speaker wire inputs on the adapter. Then you connect your rca cables from the adapter to your amplifier. Then your speakers connect to your amp.
@@Audiolympian thank you so much but where on the Sony Amplifier(AVR)? don't forget there are no Pre outs on the Sony. Do I connect the RCA Cables to the Sony Amp/AVR and where do I connect the speakers on the Amp/AVR.
@@chumaiwugoh2964 if you are trying to use and avr to power your LF speakers, the Sony needs to have RCA INPUTS in order to use the signal. If your AVR doesn’t have the inputs then it may not work. But you could try connecting to the cd input or possibly Aux input on the sony. Hope that helps
@@Audiolympian yes, to spread the load. LR Channels on the Sony (including the subs because my subs are passive). 50watts per channel from the Marantz I think is abit low, need to always crank it up to much..
Could you hook up a headphone tube amplifier to the Onkyo RCA ins? I want to drive a set of zone 2 speakers with my tube amp to the Onkyo NR7100. My thinking was RCA out on the tubes to cd (RCA) ins, volume control would be both....
In theory I think your idea would work, the problems you may run into would be the actual output and the which in theory you need an output source and an input source for a system to work. In your set up idea you have and output to an input/output. But you certainly could try it. Sorry I couldn’t give you a better answer
@@Audiolympian The music source would be digital out from a hard drive (PC) to a dac, the dac output to the tubed headphone amp, the headphone amp to the onkyo cd input, onkyo out to zone 2 speakers.
Is this changing digital to analog. This is a more come problem with car audio. They make more complex converters for car audio. Are those better. I have a denon 760 no Pre outs. I want more power to my SVS ultras left right center. Looking for quality not volume . This adapter just looks cheaply made no case. Seems like there maybe a better convter out there. I have seen some that have step down transformers for cars. Some are 4 channel. Not a lot out in utube about this conversion. I’d like to see some one hook up Pre outs then do the conversion and see if one is better.
Good question. I don’t believe it’s a converter as much as it just redirects the signal. Several people have asked about car audio converters in comparison. I think in theory a car audio one would work but I don’t know how well being car audio devices are not equipped to handle house power (120 volts, 15 amps) but that’s not to say it won’t work, I just haven’t tried it. I have been looking to get one and compare it just to see how it holds up. I also would like to find a better quality built adapter. As you said it seems kinda cheaply made, I’d say more simple but it’s pretty durable and it’s mostly for the diy’er. Thanks for watching and commenting
A Loc does the same thing. I got a kicker loc for like 10 bucks and I’m running 2 crown xls1500’s bridged out to 4 olms on 2 bic American 15 three ways from a Yamaha r-s201.
I have Pioneer VSX-932 AV receiver that I love the way is sound but only have preout for 2 subwoofer even so sound amazing , I just follow the guide from your video . I got a very good deal for a used AudioSource Amp Three 2 Channel Power Amplifier 150w pc ,hook it up and even my 3 powered subwoofer sound more vivid. My question is since the the 2 main channel on the AV receiver is now getting the juice from the power amp is ok to set in the receiver my main speaker to large instead of small since the AV receiver don't have to make any extra effort to drive my 15 inches main speaker ? Another question the main 2 speaker channel in the receiver still power up or the receiver take the main speaker power to feed with more power the other channel?
Thanks for the question. It will be fine to change your main speakers to large. That basically shares the bass response with the sub instead of solely pushing Lfe to the sub. For your second question receivers do share power loads between channels but not how we would think, it’s not an even continuous max split of power it pushes extra watts when needed like explosions and loud sounds. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Good question. It adds because you are using the original signal coming out from the receiver however, I believe the design of the adapter using rectifiers help tone down the signal so it’s not over powered resulting in damaging speakers. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
Hello and thanks for this great video. I have a DENON AVR X2400H that does not have preouts, so I should get some such device to increase the power. The Russound ADP-1.2 Speaker Level to Line Level Adapter that you recommended does not ship to my country, so please let me know if there is another similar device that can be purchased in Europe. Thanks again and greetings to you.
Thanks for the support. Sorry you can’t get this over there. Some people have used a similar device used in cars for car audio. Nothing specific but perhaps that could be available to you. The only thing I’ve warned people on is the car device is only designed for 12 volts. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
beautiful! liked and subscribed. where i live we have a wonderful fm classical station and i like to vary which receivers and speakers play at the same time. i have added more speaker sets with either small fm contained class d amps or power amps like aiyima 07 class d and audio source 100 ab amps fed by a radio with headphone out. i love the fullness and echo effect i can achieve with separate volume controls. some radios will only give one speaker power thru the amp while others provide both ( in mono). no stereo effect thru the radio fed amps, but the effect is still stunning.
Here is the link on eBay if anyone is interested www.ebay.com/itm/Russound-ADP-1-2-Speaker-Level-to-Line-Level-Adapter-/193137291271?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Hi fella, I have a question please?
Can I connect my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110(no pre out) to the preamp Denon PRA-1500(pre oot yes) in the same way with this adapter so that I can use the preamp to connect my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 which I want to drive my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2?
Thank you in advance!
Best regards!
@@georgiungoryanov7371 you might be able to connect it that way. I have heard some people have connected two receivers together this way so it’s possible but I can’t say for sure because I’ve never tried it.
@@Audiolympian ...thank you.I'll try and I ll let you know.
Best wishes!
Take it from a noob like me. It works. I was about to spend easily over 1500 until I watched this simply cuz cuz my AVR didnt have preouts and was lacking power. I spent 100 on the russound adapters, 15$ for RCA's used spare speaker wire, and simply used my existing Denon reciever. I bought a monolith amp and the sound is 10x better than just the AVR. It crazy that your vids are pretty much the only ones on UA-cam explaining this
Thanks for your input. Appreciate your support and watching my vids.
Im thinking of trying this on my X-2600h, it really improved the sound that much ?
@@johnhighfield5064 the quality of your amplifier and receiver will determine your sound quality. Of course speakers too. But i feel most people have a decent receiver and just want more power so it doesn’t change the sound quality so much as it does add more heightened details. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
Great, can you please tell me which model receiver you have? I have a denon as well and also like to add an amp. Thanks.
@@Audiolympian thanks for your video.
I have a Denon Dnp-800ne network streamer with variable rca output where I can control the volume output on remote. I got a Behringer A800 amp and connected the variable rca output from the streamer to the rca input of the Behringer A800. The sound is pure and linear but want to use my Denon pma-800 amp as preamp as it has bass and treble control as well as the phono MC that I use for my vinyl player.
The streamer gives 4volt max output rms on the variable output
What voltage will the speaker to line level give?
I was literally looking at new avrs today as my old Onkyo tx nr 626 has no pre outs , a million thank yous. 💥👍
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
Where did you buy the external pre-out?
@@erickurdys2873 I bought mine on eBay. Sadly the last I heard they were out of stock. Perhaps Amazon or direct through Russound. Hope that helps
Thank you for helping us with this component. You have saved me lots of money.
My Sony Receiver STR AN1000 does not have preouts and it was struggling to drive my Klipsch 806FA 150watt speakers. Using this I connected my Crown 1502 power amplifier between my receiver and speaker, and it is working like a charm. I can hear sounds which did not exist earlier.
Glad to hear your results are working well for you. You’re welcome. Happy to help. Keep rocking!
I also have the STR AN1000 and want to add a power amp. Do you know if you can use the Zone 3 output as a pre out? I’m only running 2 channels. Or is this the best solution? Thanks.
@@jasonholtz2003 so far this has been the best solution I have found. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I have one of these adapters because I wanted to add an external amp to a 2 channel stereo receiver and I tell you what it is one of the best things I've ever purchased in my life. Matter of fact it was your original video that helped me make that decision. Thanks!!!
Glad to hear it worked out for you. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate the support of my channel.
How do you connect speaker wires🤔
What are these called exactly.....need to get one
How Many watts are you pushing though. Would you trust this with a 250 watt amp??
@@kellywatkins6409 I'm using a Crown XLI 1500 and I have it putting out about 145 watts per channel in 8 ohms. I don't think it would have any issue with the 250 watts. I may even be pushing a little less than that to be honest to avoid ear fatigue.
My perfectly serviceable Denon i can keep thanks to your video. Added my amp and i'm getting more defined sound. Appreciate you.
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate the support
Great precentation I am currently in a very similar situation you have helped me immensely
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching
And denon tried telling me there's no way to run an external amp without preouts 🤣
Thanks man 👍🏻
Haha. Thanks for watching.
I have a Yamaha 5.1 made in circa 2005. I love it and the sound fields/processor that it has. Sounds great. And I recently purchased a set of Fluance signature series bookshelf speakers and they really good! (Along with Sony sawm 40 sub) Niw when I crank the volume up in the higher “rocking out level 11” the speakers seem to ever so slightly distort. So I’m probably going to invest into a Emotiva BasX A2 channel power amp. This video greatly helped me out on my decision whether to me me old Yamaha receiver. Thanks a million. Eventually I may go with incorporating Yamahas WXC-50 but until then, my smart tv has done an excellent job of acting as a streamer. And the rest I just listen to cds and tapes/vinyl records. I’m just a 2.1 kinda guy. Thanks again cheers 🍺 from Houston
2.1 systems I think are underrated. I use one myself. Glad to have helped your decision making process. Thanks for watching and commenting. I love Houston. I have lots of family there. Can’t wait to go back.
Hey, it works, great sound, I hear the details, with more weight.
Glad it works for you. Thanks for watching and commenting
Great video man, saved me from buying a more expensive receiver. Just got yourself a new subscriber.
Thanks. Appreciate the support. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@Audiolympian quick question do you get any humming noise from your set up?
@@edwinrijos6679 I did. On my initial set up I used cheap weak wires. But then I switched to better quality rca cables the hum went away. Could also be some interference on the power line. Hope that helps
This video was on point… I was about to upgrade to a new av receiver. Thank you very much 👍🏿👍🏿
You’re welcome. Glad it helped you out. Thanks for watching
Quite new to this hobby. Was looking for an answer to connect my AVR without a centre pre-out to my soon to purchase emotiva basx A3. Answered it perfectly. Thank you.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
I'm doing the same thing. How did it turn out for you?
Many thanks for this great informative video, just hooked up an Emotiva A2, sounds great
You’re welcome. Glad to help. Thanks for watching
Been using these in the car audio world for years so you could use the car's original head unit (that didn't have low outs) when adding amps. I also used it for an Onkyo TX8511 receiver. Worked great but it did change the sound slightly and the single sent to the amp was a little hot. The issue is that these hi to low outputs are not made for a lot of power. The Onkyo I used it on had 120 watts per channel which is a little out of its power range and why it was a bit hot. As I said these were made so the factory radios in a car could stay not screwing up the dash with a new head unit. Most factory radios are lucky to be 40 watts that are in its range. Just watch how much power you put into the Russo and you will be fine. There are other hi to low converter makers out there but be careful some have extremely low watt numbers that they can handle.
Thanks for the info. Appreciate you commenting and watching
Wow you are saving people TONS if money with this hack. Get a cheap receiver with all the up to date Decoders/Formats + nice amp and you’re off to the races!
That’s was my hope, to help people out. Appreciate the support and thanks for watching
Great video. Keep the great videos coming.
Thanks for watching
Hi ..what is the name of those adapters to check on ebay..?? Thanks😉
They are made by Russound. If you check the top pinned comment. The put an eBay link there. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian yes i got it ...thanks😉
@@Mario-v6d5b cool.
Thank you fella!Very kind of you!
You saved me a lot of money and worries.I connected my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110 with my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 to drive on max my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2.I hate my neighbors!😅
I do appreciate it!Your video is very helpful!
Best wishes!
@@georgiungoryanov7371 glad to have helped you out. Appreciate your kind words. Thanks for the support and for watching
glad i found you man .... YOU SAVED MY ASS !!!!
Glad to have helped. Thanks for watching and commenting. It helps the channel.
Your the man bro!!!!! Your going to save me thousands.
Thanks bro. Happy to help. And thanks for watching
My reciever is ok with 8 and 6 ohms. Im looking at some 4ohm towers. Im curious if i can take those fronts out to the adapter, and have an amp supply 4ohms without messing with the receiver? I was hoping it would all fall on the added amp. what do you think?
@@seanz1232010 should be no problem. I’ve done exactly that with 4 ohm speaks plenty of times. I just made sure to use an amp that can handle 4 ohms.
@Audiolympian awesome thank you so much! im surprised therent sleeker looking adapters with cover for this exact application. Id love to get better fronts that are 4 ohm without an entire new receiver. Is sound distribution for dolby playback unaffected with this adapter, like for L and R fronts?
@ yes, completely unaffected. I agree that there should be something out there with more eye appeal. Honestly I was thinking of making and selling some myself.
Thank you so much for showing us all.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian when you buy and install those adapters do you lose any amplifier wattage power?
@@docjohnson3980 good question. It doesn’t sound that way to me of course I’m not using any measuring tools and all amp are different. The amp I use is quite powerful. So if I do loose any it’s not very noticeable
@@Audiolympian Just want to say thank you responding back. I'm going to purchase them now thanks to your video. Just know you saved me some serious $$$$ I was getting ready to spend over 1500.00 on a AVR.... Cheers 🥂 you definitely earned my thumbs up and I'm definitely going to be subscribing. Wishing you nothing but great success 🙏
@@docjohnson3980 appreciate your support. Thanks
whats the cons of doing this?
One con would probably be having another device in the chain that could pick up interference. Maybe another would be the device could burn out after so long although I’ve never had a problem with mine and I’ve had them for a few years now. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this awesome video !!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
I would like to purchase these adaptors for my new Sony AR and old Kenwood Amp/EQ; question: my L/R speakers to not have RCA inputs; only speaker wire. Do I need 2 adaptors; one for in to amp, one for out to the speakers? Thanks again!
@@OliverDirks that’s ok if your speakers don’t have rca connections. One adapter is for two speakers. So if you’re only connecting 2 speakers then one adapter is fine. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Awesome video mate greatly appreciated
Appreciate the compliment. Thanks for watching
Doesn't Zone 2 have pre-out or line level output that you could use? I realize that you are demonstrating the functionality of the product, but it may be a good idea to say "ingore" zone 2 for this demonstration.
Good tip. Yes zone 2 do have preouts but for some reason it doesn’t push amps. Idk why. And if it does it’s usually only stereo. Thanks for watching
Fantastic video. Thank you!
@@azintrepid1 you’re welcome. Thanks for watching
Hi, thanks for the video! I assume that, with the adapter in between, I can run my NAD C315BEE, which does not have a pre-out, into the line-in of my LOEWE Klang 1 Sub? Any enclosure available separately for the adapter? Cheers, Moritz
I haven’t tried using it with a sub but it should work. I haven’t found any specific enclosures or housings for the adapter but I used one from partsexpress.com. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Many thanks for your swift response! This is helpful.
@@moritzmusik5826 happy to help
Great videos (I've watched both on this solution/product)! Will you do a video on the case that you made to house this "converter"?
@@davejuse774 thanks. I do have a new updated version of this video coming. I didn’t think of putting that in it, but I will now at your request. Thanks for the idea and for watching.
Was so excited but it didn't last. Hooked everything up and it worked great for a moment and man did the amp make a difference. But every time there was a Surg in loudness in whatever I was watching the receiver would shut off and go into power save mode. This happened at least 4 times. Thanks for the video it was worth a try.
Sorry to hear that man. Perhaps some different power cables could help if possible. Thanks for watching
Same here does not work save your money, receiver constantly goes into power save mode.
If your receiver has a headphone jack, you can use that as a pre-out. So, the cable you'd need, is a phono plug (headphone plug) to RCA. It's not "clean" looking but, it 100% works. You just need to remember to disable your selected speakers on the receiver.
Thanks for the tip and for watching
I know this is an older video. Anyone interested can build one of these and make it less bulky. Take a short length of speaker wire. Connect the positive lead to one leg of a 1w 3.9k ohm resistor and another short wire from the other leg to the positive connection of a female RCA connector (solder or screw terminal style). Do the same for the negative lead except using a 1/2w 430 ohm resistor with the other leg going to the negative terminal of the same RCA connector. 2 resistors (1 per lead) of differing resistance. Solder the speaker wires to the resistors. Then, you can shrink tube the resistors and joints or wrap with electrical tape or tessa tape. Plug in your rca cable to the diy connector. Connect the exposed speaker lead to your speaker output of your receiver. No need for a bulky plate. You could make 5 or 7 of these for %10 or so combined.
I had to pause the video to read the resistors and see how they are connected. Wire > resistor > rca connector. The parts are cheap on Amazon or other sites online. I hope this helps.
Wow thanks for that explanation. Appreciate you watching
Ok good info, but what is the line out jacks on many receivers for?
@@BrettGlass it depends on the receiver, usually the ones that have a line out output is used for a record player if it doesn’t have a dedicated phono output. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Can u not splice the rca cables and hook them directly to the reciever without the adapter?
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Hi, if i have a 7.1 receiver but only want to power the 2 front speakers, do still have to hook up 3 adapters? at 10:45 you say " now if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 you will need 3 adapters". I ordered 1 adapter just now from crutchfield. I will see how it goes. I am hoping I don't have to buy 3 adapters to just get it to work on a 7.1 receiver, because then I am spending $120 basically for 3 adapters...might as well just use that money towards a new receiver with preouts.
Yes that will work fine. One adapter for just the 2 speakers works fine. If that’s all you want to do is power front mains. What I meant is if you wanted all 5 channels connected to an external amp then you would need 3 adapters.
Thanks for watching
What if you made a wire that has RCA at one end and speaker termination at the other end?
Would you still need an adapter?
You definitely could try it but I think the capacitors, resistors and diodes play an important role in transferring the signal so it doesn’t have too much noise distortion. But it certainly could work as a quick solution. Thanks for watching
Much better too used the headphone jack...
Great vid! How would configure this if wanted to do just the center channel?
Thanks. If you only want to use one channel just use one side of the device. That’s how I use it for my 5 channel set up. 3 devices = 2 left channels, 2 right channels and one center. The cool thing is you have an extra input for the future if you want to add another speaker. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Great great video. Question in a 5.2.2 set up can I leave the atoms speakers connected to the receiver while diverting to surrounds center and Fronts to the power amp.
Yes you can. Thanks for watching
These could also be used to hook up a subwoofer to a receiver lacking a sub out or high level inputs. You'd probably have to sacrifice the "B channel" on the receiver/integrated amplifier.
Zone 2 has pre-outs...but if you you get a decent receiver to begin with or upgrade, it would probably output comparable power (or possibly more) to the Emotiva XPA 200...but the Emotiva is also only $500...Your receiver is the heart of your entertainment system...everything runs through it, so it's best to start with a nice one and work your way out from that with the rest of the system and components...with that being said, this is still a good work around with budget restrictions
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good advice.
You can control Zone 2 pre-outs in any way
Or is there??
@@tombergman4506 That depends on the receiver...some give you full control of those, some only limited...since my receiver has zone 2 and 3 that can be incorporated into the surround configuration, I have full control of those outputs (Integra DTR 8.8)
@tombergman4506 yes and no. It depends on what a person is attempting to do with the zone 2 and the receiver’s capabilities. Hope that helps
i will be using this video as guidance for my hookup connecting the front LR speakers and center when i gert another adapter for the center hope it works out THANK YOU!!!
You’re welcome. If you need any help or have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out. Thanks for watching
audiolympian i have the emotiva BasX A3 it has 3 channels where am i placing the RCA cables 1-2-3 im only hooking up two channels the front left and right the center at a later time would really appreciateyour help thank u
@@Joereyes1 I would just connect to 1 & 2. Just make sure the speaker cable from the receiver to the adapter are in line with the rca cable output. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian i dont get it yet i tried no sound but i will try again thanks for the feedback
Works thanks alot Audioolympian took me some time but i got it thanks too U DAMM ITS LOOOOUD!!!!!!!!
The first Avr , the one with the pre outs . Which model is that one . The one with the tape 1 and tape 2. Thanks again.
It is the Denon AVR 3600. A very old model but a beast.
Can that speaker output use together with front speaker on the receiver..
@@gempak18 yes it can
@@Audiolympian thanks.. another thing.. can i use car high to low audio adaptor into my receiver and amp? its hard to find russound here in my place.
@@gempak18 I’ve had a few other people tell me they have used a car audio adapter but I personally haven’t done it. My only issue I would see with it is the design is made for car voltage at 12 volts not 120. But it could work.
I have Sony STR DH 550 AV receiver and a Yamaha MX 50 power amplifier as my subwoofer amp. I was thinking of getting a preamplifier for the power amp and dump the AV Receiver. However after watching this video I believe getting the connector and using the AV receiver as a preamp would be far better. So from the AV Receiver front speaker output jack to the connector then to the power amp would serve my purpose.
Awesome. Hope it works great for you as it does for me. Thanks for watching and commenting
This is exactly what I was trying to find. Tired of making my receiver work so hard. She's an old gal, and needs to rest 😁. Great video. Would have liked to have seen a before and after db gain when connecting and also a description of what you heard differently when connecting the amp. But regardless, liked and subscribed. 👍
Thanks for the support. This video and the one I did a year ago are a couple of my top videos. Perhaps I could do a part 3 and go over some of your suggestions. Thanks for watching again subbing.
@@Audiolympian would you know if putting an amp on a center channel and making the receiver work less, will that provide other channels the watts it saved from putting the amp on the center?
That’s a tough but good question to answer. Yes and no, depending on your receiver. Adding an amp to you center channel will take some strain off of your receiver so it can push the other channels easier but it won’t disperse the watts out to among the other channels the way one would think it does so not like an even divide through the other channels . But it will take some of that and push extra power to the other channels when needed. But probably only an extra 5-10 watts or whatever it needs for that exact moment like a car crash, explosion stuff like that. Good question. Hope that helps
@@wcg686s the amps still out out the same amount of power as they normally would. The adapter just reduces the amount of power that goes to the separate amp. I am not sure how or if the ohms load is effected. That being said. Alot of AVRs that have pre-outs do not turn off Thier internal amps if you are using the pre-outs. So either way if your AVR has pre-outs or not unless it's a higher end unit the amps are running regardless.
@@christianlemont111 This. This youtube channel has no idea what he's using and how it works electronically.
Great video! Do you get any feedback or static from the speakers using this method?
Thanks. I did when I first connected multiple devices. Until I screwed them on a wood plank and kept them stable and added a cover to it. Now, no problems at all. Thanks for watching
Can you use these adapters for a TV with audio out? Any channel of audio output with the correct adapters?Thanks.
Good question. I would think you can use it with tv audio as well, as long as the tv has speaker output terminals. But I haven’t tried it. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Thank you so much .Yes the right and left but also there are adapters for other audio output to right and left.As the adapter you mentioned in your video.
@@kennethwilson7839 you should be good to go
Can I connect a equalizer to a receiver like the one you have in this video if so how
@@thomasboone2657 you only can if the receiver has the proper inputs. Connecting an equalizer is tricky because it doesn’t just connect between the receiver and speakers it has to loop. But it will only be in stereo as well. I’m doing a video on that topic now. Thanks for watching
The denon , what model number is it . I still record and have a DAT recorder .
That’s cool. This is the 4700 model
My problem solved! Thank you!
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting
I'm wondering if a LOC for car audio would do the same thing.
I’ve had a few other people say the same thing. But I don’t know if anyone has done it. My only concern with a mobile device is that it’s designed for 12 volts and maybe 30 amps. Not 120v and 1500 amps. Other than that seems like it would work. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian True. I didn't think about that. I have a spare passive kicker LOC. I might have to give it a try. Whats the worst that can happen?😬
@@Libertà_sulla_vita exactly. Let me know what happens
I have tons of tuners sitting around this would work to hook two of them up to combine the power right?
It’s possible. Could be a fun project
What about the center channel speaker? If i wan't to do
The only thing you have to do with the center channel is use just one side of the adapter. It will still work
Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Hey i just bought two can you explain to me how to hook up the center channel i have a marantz 5 channel amp how would i hook it up to my denon 7.2
@@DCProductions77 sure. One adapter will connect your front left and right speakers to your amp. Then on the other adapter just connect the center speaker wire from your receiver to one side of the adapter and then one RCA cable from the adapter to your amp. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you! I am being given a Sony stereo amplifier. I have a Sony 5.1 AVR and it seems it is not putting the power out on the front left and right channels, but the center is plenty loud. My AVR does not have pre-amp outs though.
Is this modification going to lessen the demand on the AVR amplifier?
Can I leave the center channel on the AVR or should I try and run it off the stereo amp? It does have a zone A and B that you can run at the same time and some people do two stereo sets or have that send the signal a sub because this stereo receiver is technically a 2.0 not a 2.1.
Can I leave the Sub on the AVR?
Do you leave your amplifier volume control to max and then control master volume via AVR only?
Hey @nathanaelcole8466 thanks for the questions. So no this set up will not lessen the load of the receiver because it uses the existing signal after output. You can leave the center on the receiver but it will have lesser volume than the speakers connected to the amp. But if it’s very noticeable or not will depend on your amp. For example I use a sun fire amp with 200 watts per channel and my center channel is just connected to my receiver and the difference of sound is noticeable but not unbearable, for me anyway. Also my amps don’t have volume controls but if the did I’d have them all the way up and use the receiver for sound controls. And yes leave your sub on the receiver, as long as it’s a self powered sub. If it’s a passive sub then you may want to connect to an amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
You're the man! Thank you for the quick and thorough answers. I ordered one and will have my new stereo later tonight to start messing around with. @@Audiolympian
@@nathanaelcole8466 you’re welcome. Appreciate the support. Hope it works well for you
I have a denon receiver with two zones. I want to add additional speakers in my backyard pool but be able to play the same music as where my receiver is located. I don't have the preouts on my reciever. Can I do whay you did in the video and connect the receiver to a whole home amplifier to be able to play the same music on my addional speakers and do you think they will be a delay between the music inside and outside the house by doing so?
It should work as long as your home amplifier has the additional channels. As far as a delay in sound, that would depend on the distance, which could be adjusted by the receiver. Other than that I don’t think there would be a delay. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Thanks for the help and quick reply!
@@lquint02 you’re welcome
Any trigger tricks?
No. But I am always hunting for one.
It’s about time you made a video that shows the proper way to hook it up the first video was ridiculous. It was just you showing off your sound system and all the toys you have that video didn’t help us at all.. this is the proper way to make a video about that. Thank you you get a thumbs up.👍👍👍👍 that’s all we want to know.
Haha. Sorry about that in the first video. You’re not the first person to tell me that. When I made that video my channel was still quite small very few subscribers, so I was still trying to attract viewers and I didn’t think that many people out there would be that interested in the adapter. Not too long after people were asking me questions about it. That’s when I decided to make another video on it. Hope it helped you out. Thanks for watching
Are they gonna work on emotiva basx amplifier?
It should. As long as the amplifier has RCA connectors. Thanks for watching
What about the zone 2 output on the receiver?
I’ve tried it before for some reason it doesn’t work that way perhaps I had the settings wrong. Thanks for watching
You can use zone 2 preout, connect that to external amp and use it with same source right?
It seems that you should be able to but for some reason it doesn’t work that way
You mean it won't work for any av receiver?
@@balasenthil5378 I mean some receivers can use zone 2 and zone 1 at the same time. And some can’t
Would the adapter work for a center channel also?
Yes. I use three for a 5 speaker set up. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
What I have in mind is if I want to transfer the load of the front speakers to an external amp, I’d follow your instructions, and leave the surround speakers on the receiver. That should get some load off of the receiver, right?
Yes it will lighten the load a bit on the main speakers
Question: Did you try hooking up your RCA cables to the ZONE 2 Line Out? Should give you the exact same signal as a dedicated pre-out. Cheers
Yes I have. Several times. Didn’t work. Thanks for watching and commenting
Might have to tell the receiver to send signal to zone2?
@@MARKC0R3 as far as i know zone 2 is just for two speakers, stero. That should be ok if you run a 2.0 or a 2.1 setup for music but not useful for 5.1 or a 5.1.2 setup!
Does doing this add for your left/right extra headroom for all the other speakers hooked up to the receiver or just more power for l/r speakers?
@@corytodd1690 good question. It doesn’t necessarily give more headroom to the other speakers because it just re-routes the actual signal but every receiver is designed to do that automatically. Some do it better than others. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian I guess what I'm asking is since its not powering those two speakers does it improve the power available to the other ones. Sorry if this is what you just answered
@@corytodd1690 no problem. The way the device works, is you take speaker wire from the receiver and connect it to the device. Because of that you are still using the power of the receiver. So essentially you could say you are doubling up on the wattage of the front main speakers. For example if the receiver is 75 wpc and you connect a 50 wpc amp this way, it’s now 125 wpc on the front channels. You don’t bypass the amplification in the receiver. Now, if the receiver has preouts and you connect the amp to the receiver’s preouts then you would bypass the receiver’s amp section and now are using and external power source for amplification and leaving extra headroom for the other channels because the main channels are not being powered by the internal power supply. Hope that makes sense.
@Audiolympian absolutely does. If I want more power sent to each speaker I need to do this for each one. Thank you!
@@corytodd1690 you’re welcome
Do they make one unit to do 3 speakers front left front right and center? Thank you
No. Unfortunately all I could find is stereo units. Thanks for watching
Very good. I really like it.
Thanks for watching
Hi can I just use a simple rca to bare wire cable to connect may receiver to a power amp??your answer is very much appreciated..Thank you 😊
Sorry for the late response. Apparently I didn’t hit send. Your question is interesting. I’m not sure if it will work, seems like it could but the adapter has specific networking to transfer the signal properly. However, you could be right. Thanks for the question and watching
Thanks for answering my question 😊I have another question 😁 is it the adapter that you use is same with hi-to- low level signal converter??😊it is with the same rca out and speaker line in connection with it..I just saw that on amazon 😊Thank you 😊
@@rjaychavez3866 yes it’s the same.
No , do not use rca directly to speaker output and connect it to power amp , you will certainly destroy your power amp, this adaptor has resistors connected between rca and signal coming out of receiver so it is safe for power amp. Early in my years i have done this mistake with a car audio, connected the old radio from car directly to an amplifier trough the speakers output and destroyed the power transistors inside amplifier.
Awesome!!! Thanks
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
Is it possible to apply a vintage graphic equalizer to an amplifier 5.1 without preout?
Good question. It might work. I’ve done it before but it sounded horrible. Good luck. Let me know if you do it. Thanks for watching and commenting
Can you just use a RCA to speaker +- wire? Then use the speaker +- wire to the receiver or Preamp?
@@chrishale5608 you probably could do that but the device has filters and resistors that help regulate from over powering. Thanks for watching
great video, what is the product brand or at least link to avail
Thanks the name is Russound adp 1.2 adapter. Thanks for watching
Does using a line level adapter take load off of the AVR? Like completely for that output?
Good question, no it doesn’t take the load off. Thanks for watching
when the base hits does it make the fan come on the reciever that doesnt hAve preout?
I’m not sure. My receivers don’t have fans.
Thanks for the excellent video. Do you know where I can find a small case for this? I am only getting one and I'd like to cover it up. Don't know why they couldn't just put it in a simple case.
I’ve thought the same thing. Parts express has lots of cases. You can try them. Thanks for watching
Obvious question here.
Could you have used zone 2 without the harness and had the same result?
A lot of people ask that. I’m making a video about that topic. But in short zone two requires another preamp or receiver or main device of some kind to produce sound. Thanks for watching
Can u plug the adapter straight into bookshelf speakers instead of the amplifier?
I assume you’re referring to a powered bookshelf speaker, yes you can. Thanks for watching
These work great. use them to run my front 3 channels with a new Emotiva BasX A3 amplifier. BIG difference!
Yes they do. I use 3 of them. Thanks for the comment. And thanks for watching
Thanks you just respond my answer , I already got one for my main channel, order a second adapter for my other 2 channel amp but wasn't sure for using on my center or surround channel
So- you need this sort of devise cause if you go directly from a Speaker wire to a Power amp (Input) it Humms right? Exactaly what I was lookin for..thanks
Correct. It will him because they is no rectification or capacitance to control the power output and intake. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Gotcha...thanks
@@wildbillo68 my pleasure
So glad I found your video. How would I do this with the emotiva bas x a5? I have a denon s750h and didn’t realize it doesn’t have pre out for an amp.
You would use three adapters but one adapter you’ll only use 1 channel, if you’re doing a 5 channel set up. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian thanks for responding. I don’t quite understand as I am new to this setup. Is it possible to do a further updated video for reference?
@@GrandNoobHeIs actually this was my updated video but I do get asked many more questions so it may be time to update the video again.
@@GrandNoobHeIs Hi ,just follow carefully the video , is a piece of cake
I have a good question for ya- I listen to "all channel stereo" often for music on my 7.2.2 setup. Would adding a second amp for the front two tower speakers be a smart move... considering they are capable of much more power?
Good question. So here are some factors that will determine if you’ll hear a difference. Amount of power from the amp, room size, distance from the speakers. You probably won’t notice much if your in a medium size room that’s a bit open and you not too close to any specific speakers. Smaller closed room, yes you’ll hear a difference. Now for amp power, you may not notice a big difference at 100 watts. But 150 watts you should notice a difference and 200 and above you’ll definitely notice a difference. Also depending on your receiver you can adjust the db levels of each speaker as well. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Can I use tape monitor out to do this
It’s possible but I’m not completely sure. I did try using all of the other outputs my receiver had and none of them worked. But that was just me. Thanks for watching
Hi. Great channel with practical info. I have a set up similar to this but with a pair of Klipcsh speakers with the high low connectors. Where would the extra set of speaker cables need to be connected for that?
Thanks for checking out my channel. The extra cable placement would depend on the amplifier you have or perhaps use small jumper cables for simplicity. Or you’d probably have to use splitters from the adapter to the amplifier to help create an additional signal path. This might degrade the signal strength though. Hope that helps. Again thanks for watching
When you wire an amp like this to the receiver are you still getting power from the receiver to that speaker or not??
Good question, it is getting power but it’s absorbed by the more powerful amplifier. Because the amplifiers in a receiver don’t operate the same as a class ab, d or h amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
When you turn up the volume on the AVR in this setup, where is the increase in power coming from? The internal amp in the AVR, or the amplifier?
Hey Riley,
Kind of both. This set up doesn’t totally by pass the avr’s channels it’s more of an enhancement. So the potentiometer is on the avr but it’s sound path is going through to the amp. Which is why if you connect this device the two channels it’s connected to will be louder than the other channels. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Interesting.
So what I'm trying to do is use my AVR by itself for movies, then have an amplifier connected via a line-level converter that I'll use for music (turntable). Turntable connected to AVR, line-level converter coming from my L+R speaker connections on AVR to the external amplifier, speaker wire from L+R connections on amp to an amp switch ("A" side of amp switch), then finally to speakers. Speaker wire will also be connected to L+R on AVR, leading to "B" side of amp switch. Amp switch lets me toggle between using the AVR (movies) and the AVR+amp (music). I've been using the amp switch for a while now with the AVR and amp completely seperate of each other, but I want to take advantage of the room correction software on my AVR, and I think this is the only way, unless I've made an error in my thinking.
Kinda complicated, but I like the extra power for music, plus the amplifier has cool lights, haha.
@@MFRiley gotcha. So it seems like it will work the way you want I too as long as your “switchers” are basically pass through devices, which it sounds like they are. If you do it let me know how it works out. I’d be curious to hear your results. And yes amp lights are very cool 😎
@@Audiolympian Pass through it is (Solupeak P2).
Figuring this all out was quite complicated as I'm not super knowledgeable about the technical side of audio. Didn't even know something like this was possible until I started digging. Audio is such a rabbit hole.
Now that I'm looking into it even more, I guess I could use the external amp for both movies and music. Use it as part of my surround setup for movies. Let the amp handle some of the load of the left and right channels, and the AVR can focus more on the other channels. Would this be worthwhile, or am I splitting hairs at that point?
@@MFRiley could be splitting hairs depending on which amplifier it is and your room. Yes it is a lot and a very deep rabbit hole. My advice is take your time, research a lot but enjoy what you have and get to know it. Learn all the specs. That will give you good insight about other gear as well.
Can you go directly from speaker terminal without the adapter and combine power of both units?
Sounds like this turns your a/v receiver into a preamp
Yes. Essentially it does turn the receiver to a preamp. You might be able to rig it up so you could use bare wire to the amp but the adapter has resistors and filters so it’s a safer connection. But anything is possible too. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian
I was about to buy 2 125w Marantz monoblocks.Thought was to combine my Yamaha 125w per making combined 250w per channel.
Speaker out into amp via RCA.
@@budzlightyear2212 I see. You’ll definitely want an adapter for that. I wouldn’t risk any damage to my Yamaha or those marantz mono’s
Are those like line level / high to low level adapter used in car stereos to add a power amp to a factory stereo without preouts? Same concept.. I have a Onkyo NR 686 that don’t have preouts .. It has Bluetooth an Wi fi
Yes the same thing. The only difference is these are designed to handle 120v the car devices are designed for 12v. I’ve thought about getting and auto line level and. Trying it in the house just to see if it would work but those take a hot, ground and neutral intake and I’m not an electrical engineer. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian .. thanks for responding;
@@keithwebb8512 you’re welcome
@Audiolympian, thank you so much for this video but am still confused. I bought the Russound but still don't know what to do. I currently have a Marantz Cinema 70s so would want to use the pre outs to power my LR with another AVR (Sony Mutiki STR KM7, 7.1),they don't come with pre outs. So I have the RCA Cables coming from the Pre outs of the Marantz to the pre outs part of the adapter, so what do I connect to the speaker wire part of the adapter, is it the speakers wire directly for the speakers or the speaker wires goes to the Sony AVR? Not sure, confused
No problem my friend. Happy to help. You take the actual speaker wire from your marantz to the speaker wire inputs on the adapter. Then you connect your rca cables from the adapter to your amplifier. Then your speakers connect to your amp.
@@Audiolympian thank you so much but where on the Sony Amplifier(AVR)? don't forget there are no Pre outs on the Sony. Do I connect the RCA Cables to the Sony Amp/AVR and where do I connect the speakers on the Amp/AVR.
@@chumaiwugoh2964 are you trying to connect and AVR to another AVR?
@@chumaiwugoh2964 if you are trying to use and avr to power your LF speakers, the Sony needs to have RCA INPUTS in order to use the signal. If your AVR doesn’t have the inputs then it may not work. But you could try connecting to the cd input or possibly Aux input on the sony. Hope that helps
@@Audiolympian yes, to spread the load. LR Channels on the Sony (including the subs because my subs are passive). 50watts per channel from the Marantz I think is abit low, need to always crank it up to much..
Could you hook up a headphone tube amplifier to the Onkyo RCA ins? I want to drive a set of zone 2 speakers with my tube amp to the Onkyo NR7100. My thinking was RCA out on the tubes to cd (RCA) ins, volume control would be both....
In theory I think your idea would work, the problems you may run into would be the actual output and the which in theory you need an output source and an input source for a system to work. In your set up idea you have and output to an input/output. But you certainly could try it. Sorry I couldn’t give you a better answer
@@Audiolympian The music source would be digital out from a hard drive (PC) to a dac, the dac output to the tubed headphone amp, the headphone amp to the onkyo cd input, onkyo out to zone 2 speakers.
@@maze400 that should work
sir you have a link to buy that adapter?
Check in the comments I posted an eBay link for them
Is this changing digital to analog. This is a more come problem with car audio. They make more complex converters for car audio. Are those better. I have a denon 760 no Pre outs. I want more power to my SVS ultras left right center. Looking for quality not volume . This adapter just looks cheaply made no case. Seems like there maybe a better convter out there. I have seen some that have step down transformers for cars. Some are 4 channel. Not a lot out in utube about this conversion. I’d like to see some one hook up Pre outs then do the conversion and see if one is better.
Good question. I don’t believe it’s a converter as much as it just redirects the signal. Several people have asked about car audio converters in comparison. I think in theory a car audio one would work but I don’t know how well being car audio devices are not equipped to handle house power (120 volts, 15 amps) but that’s not to say it won’t work, I just haven’t tried it. I have been looking to get one and compare it just to see how it holds up. I also would like to find a better quality built adapter. As you said it seems kinda cheaply made, I’d say more simple but it’s pretty durable and it’s mostly for the diy’er. Thanks for watching and commenting
A Loc does the same thing. I got a kicker loc for like 10 bucks and I’m running 2 crown xls1500’s bridged out to 4 olms on 2 bic American 15 three ways from a Yamaha r-s201.
Cool. Thanks for the tip. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian I think I’m gonna try that adapter to see if I can get better sound outta my setup. I’ll keep ya posted.
@@Tjluberda cool. I’m interested to hear your results
Does it matter what the ohms rating on the receiver is when you ad an amp like this
Good question. Yes and no. As long as the ohms do not drop below 2 ohms. Which most receivers do not go that low. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I have Pioneer VSX-932 AV receiver that I love the way is sound but only have preout for 2 subwoofer even so sound amazing , I just follow the guide from your video . I got a very good deal for a used AudioSource Amp Three 2 Channel Power Amplifier 150w pc ,hook it up and even my 3 powered subwoofer sound more vivid. My question is since the the 2 main channel on the AV receiver is now getting the juice from the power amp is ok to set in the receiver my main speaker to large instead of small since the AV receiver don't have to make any extra effort to drive my 15 inches main speaker ? Another question the main 2 speaker channel in the receiver still power up or the receiver take the main speaker power to feed with more power the other channel?
Thanks for the question. It will be fine to change your main speakers to large. That basically shares the bass response with the sub instead of solely pushing Lfe to the sub. For your second question receivers do share power loads between channels but not how we would think, it’s not an even continuous max split of power it pushes extra watts when needed like explosions and loud sounds. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
If watch a movie it will still amplify them even if I change it from stereo to Dolby surround?
Yes it will. As long as a signal is active in that channel
Will doing this automatically bypass the recievers internal amplifiers or add to the amplification?.
Good question. It adds because you are using the original signal coming out from the receiver however, I believe the design of the adapter using rectifiers help tone down the signal so it’s not over powered resulting in damaging speakers. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
Hello and thanks for this great video. I have a DENON AVR X2400H that does not have preouts, so I should get some such device to increase the power. The Russound ADP-1.2 Speaker Level to Line Level Adapter that you recommended does not ship to my country, so please let me know if there is another similar device that can be purchased in Europe. Thanks again and greetings to you.
Thanks for the support. Sorry you can’t get this over there. Some people have used a similar device used in cars for car audio. Nothing specific but perhaps that could be available to you. The only thing I’ve warned people on is the car device is only designed for 12 volts. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
beautiful! liked and subscribed. where i live we have a wonderful fm classical station and i like to vary which receivers and speakers play at the same time. i have added more speaker sets with either small fm contained class d amps or power amps like aiyima 07 class d and audio source 100 ab amps fed by a radio with headphone out. i love the fullness and echo effect i can achieve with separate volume controls. some radios will only give one speaker power thru the amp while others provide both ( in mono). no stereo effect thru the radio fed amps, but the effect is still stunning.
Wow that sounds like quite the amazing set ups. Thanks for watching
Your Onkyo av doe have preout. "Zone 2, Line out, Pre-Out Subwoofer. That Is your preout...
@@genchic1 I thought so too. But when I connected up to it it didn’t work. Thanks anyway. And thanks for watching
Will this work for a subwoofer plate amp ,thanks
It’s possible