Which Jet is Better? - FMS Rafale vs Freewing Eurofighter v3
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- The best jet of 2022 was the FMS Rafale 80mm - but the newest Freewing Eurofighter v3 is a solid contender. Which jet wins? Ultimately it's always up to personal preference, but we think you'll be surprised.
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0:00 Takeoff Roll Comparison
0:50 Landing & High Alpha Comparison
2:00 Pitch Agility & Barrel Roll Comparison
2:50 Rafale Flight w/ SMC 4400 LiHV
7:09 Rafale Minimum Radius Turn to Landing
7:49 Eurofighter Overview
9:07 Eurofighter Flight w/ SMC 4400 LiHV
12:55 Eurofighter Landing
14:00 Rafale Flight w/ SMC 4500 LiPo
17:45 Rafale Landing
18:17 Eurofighter Flight w/ SMC 4400 LiHV
22:50 Eurofighter Landing
23:28 Eurofighter vs Rafale Comparison - Розваги
Awesome! We look forward to this comparison.
I’m sure FMS Rafale 80mm will win 🥳
Great video, loving the comparison between these two particular plane. So alike but yet so different. Thanks
Great video Jon! It’s also worth mentioning that besides their performance comparison, there Eurofighter costs almost 150$ more AFAIK
Great point!
@@Bill14886 I wish the 64mm had retractable gears😢
This is a GREAT review! I own the Rafale and was debating on the Eurofighter, but I believe that I am going to stick to my Rafale and be happy. I love the maneuverability, and landings are immense fun, now that I've learned to land this thing properly. I may mod the canards for more maneuverability and then I'll be a happy. Thanks for this review, that was exactly what I was looking for. 👍
At last. I’ve been anticipating this one
FANTASTIC 🎉 LOVE THAT YELLOW SCHEME!
Your a great inspiration
to throw these planes about .
We can try to emulate your
aerobatic manoeuvres and try and throw
caution to the wind ,a bit 😁.
Thank you again,
great comparisons.
I own both. Love both aircraft.😎
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Great video thank you 🙏
Looks like you had fun Jon. I go the Deion Sanders route...BOTH! Lol. It's sad you have to work around the dreaded "Blue Box" to get the gear to cycle in less than a week with the EF. Great looking Jet though. Nice detailed comparison.
It's unfortunate that FW still thinks it's acceptable to have a 30 second gear delay *per cycle*, but thankfully you can work around it. It would be nice to see them start moving their electronics into the 2020s and upgrade the voltage the retracts can handle, too. 5v retracts don't play well with 6v systems.
Great comparison of these 2 awesome Doritos 😅. You are making me want to spend more money that I don’t have.
Have you flown the Freewing Mirage? I'd love to know your thoughts about it. I feel like it does high alpha very very well.
Never flown it, but it's a death dorito. It'll high alpha.
Thanks for the vid. I still can't decide between the two, but I am leaning towards the Eurofighter after watching this. Seems like the 90mm EDF is a serious upgrade compared to the 80mm Rafale. I'm wondering how hard it would be to modify the elevons and make them full span? Perhaps that's something you'll try some day. I also noticed Freewing *used* to sell a thrust vector version of the Eurofighter... I would like to see if it's possible to re-add TV to the new version (this one) that doesn't have it.
It would be a significant amount of work and it would look goofy because the Eurofighter's elevons are gapless, so anything you cut to make it work will look wrong comparatively. You'd also have to add a servo housing. It's probably worth the effort but we just don't have the time or skill to do it right. You can add TV to it by chopping up the tail and installing a TV module, but it'll look horrible compared to the stock setup.
With the current trend of 64mm I’m betting a donut that a 64mm typhoon comes out
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They really need to get rid of these tiger schemes. The year of the Tiger is over. Please give us an alternative scheme for both jets.
It would be nice to see something else for a change.
Do you prefer the SMC Lipo packs over the LiHv packs for these jets. I'm curious why if you have the time. Great videos Jon, I always look forward to your take on these planes.
The LiPo pack was used because we didn't have enough HV packs for both jets. HV is generally superior to LiPo in our experiences.
I love the Rafale but I'd have to go with the Euro Fighter on this one for it's overall stability.
It's interesting the wingload on the Rafale is 43.8g/dm^2 less than the Eurofighter, and 720g flying weight less (w/5000mah 6s). Clearly the Rafale has the advantage in obedience and agility.
I like the Rafale, but and the yellow is bright but I don't like the scheme , I could do without the lion claws and all that
Now if it had the 64mm scheme
Both jet are amazing. Have you thought about doing a review on the mirage 2000 80MM from freewing. I have it, and it is an high alpha beast.
We've considered it!
Did I notice Emericas??? Sir, do you skate/did you skate? Also this answered the question on which one I'm going to rig up for scale fpv reasons. thanks!
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Its kinda funny that both of these are you best jets of enter-year-here, cause the Rafale was created due to the EF2000 not fully fulfilling Frances desired specifications. Model or full scale they’re directly competing jets!
Interesting info there!
The French were never going to go with the EF. They always do things their own with their military.
Thanks ,awesome
May I know how much weight did you add to Eurofighter?
And how much you went behind CG mark?
This is being flown at 35mm level behind the marks with 28g of weight in the tail.
@@TwoBrosRC you are very lucky,I have 8s version and I added 170g so far
I heard from Arthur who has 6s and his same as mine
@@shahram677 That weight you needed to add is precisely why we don't recommend 8 cell upgrades. It's just too much additional weight on top of a heavy battery, motor, and ESC combo.
@@TwoBrosRC exactly,
they really don’t care about buyer,they just know money and profit
They sell real JUNK for 700$$$$$
BTW,I could remove air brake and I could put one of my 4s into it,this way I can remove 50g from tail but still is too much weight and in other hand I found out manufacture put another 20g inside of fuselage under vertical stabilizer plastic part which is hidden
If you had to pick between the eurofighter or viper 90 which would you go with?
Can't say. They're both solid choices.
Would you say the eurofighter is a good second jet?
Or maybe a third?
Can you fly it with safe?
Definitely don't get a jet as expensive as this one if you're still using SAFE for general flying. Something more inexpensive would be a better choice for that kind of application. While it can be done, we don't recommend it for more than reorientation or quick transmitter checks in flight.
What makes you prefer rc castle vs motion rc? Just curious
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Now I've got to get both thanks great video. Aren't both jets 6s compatible? Why in the world they leave the pilot out makes no sense.
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@@TwoBrosRCThanks for that
Hello, I really like the Rafael , do you have proof, are they some F-14, it would be interesting. I know it's not like the Rafale or Eurofighter but I'd like to see you with one. All the best
We've flown the F-14 before, it's in our channel history.
I have both and my preference is the Rafale. It's just more fun to fly.
We love both but for different reasons.
Thanks for the comparison. Just a note, with the RC Geek (or others) nozzle reduction mod on the Rafale, may Rafale takes off in significantly shorter distance than the Eurofighter.
We did end up using nozzles from a fellow named Kallend on RC Groups which made a significant difference in both thrust and flight time, both positives. We'll cover that in a video soon and feature the new Ace Combat 5 Razgriz scheme for Rafale.
@@TwoBrosRC awesome. I definitely found a difference once they were in place. Looking forward to the video.
Great flight, that rafale is nice , but that euro is a problem 💪💯💯
A problem?
@@TwoBrosRC my bad for the misunderstanding, probelms referring as a beast , real nice , 🗣️💯
Can you please post a link to your Rafale set up?
We decided not to create one due to very low demand. If you need specific help, let us know!
Got me thinking maybe eurofighter and hold off for a version 3 rafale Release? Could the rafale get much better?
Don't hold off. FMS is unlikely to come out with an updated Rafale anytime soon.
Thanks for the heads up. Its on my ceiling right now. Running out of storage space lol don't know where I'm gonna fit my al37.
Just buy both 😋
Did you do the nozzle mod on the Rafale?
Nope. We generally shy away from modifying exhausts as it's often unnecessary.
@@TwoBrosRC that’s interesting…as this mod is proven to increase thrust quite significantly. It has been well documented.
It adds high end thrust at the cost of low end performance. We don't really care about top speed as we're far more interested in how slow something can fly.
@@TwoBrosRC Makes sense. There's plenty of rockets to have fun with, it's nice to float like a butterfly, then sting like a bee.
Which one is more beginner friendly?
Rafale, mostly due to handling characteristics and its lower price point.
He Jon where can I find the rafale setup video?
We decided not to make one because there wasn't enough viewer interest. We can give you advice if you'd like help though.
I would love to know how you did it. My brother in law and I have rafales off your recommendation I don’t want to use the control board. We would love to set it up like you did. Can you give me a brief description if you don’t mind. I would happily contribute to your patreon for your help Thank you love the channel
Janes combat .. EF2000.EXE , that shows my age I guess.
What is your favorite sporty bush plane? I know rc is expensive so i gotta cap the price at $300 😂
The Super Cub 1300mm is a solid inexpensive option: bit.ly/SuperCub1300
Now compare these jets to Su-35
It's discontinued.