New Shimano XT Vs SLX | What's The Difference?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- The tech behind Shimano’s flagship groupset, XTR, gradually trickles down to lower levels. We saw 12 speed XTR last year and now it is the turn of Shimano’s original groupset, XT, and the workhorse that is SLX, to gain an extra cog.
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Neil and Blake decided the best way to familiarise themselves with the two new groupsets was to go for an epic ride; well, Neil did 😂 They check out the tech specs and the differences between the two.
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Which of these groupsets would you choose to run?
Xt. My first actual mtb had an xt, My bike now has an xt. If I can, I'll always use xt.
Actually this is my 3rd xt rear derailleur, the previous one broke at the start of this year. The clutch broke
After Shimano ban on internet shops international shipping I am running SRAM - Gx and X01. Thank you, Shimano!
Xt for sure because it's more fun than slx, my slx is delay when i shift
Slx, because i dont have much money, but it would be really cool if you would compare the slx to the deore m6000 because it also has brakes and shifting bundle, vut its way more cheaper, and the choice of many jung people with a low budget
Thanks
Lg baumfisch
*SLX* every time - never held me back in any way!
XT = Xtreme
SLX = Slightly Less Xtreme
XRT=Xtreme rad
@@icewallowcum856 xtr Xtreme radness
Xtr?
@@Michael-the-original Xtreme Race
XTR = Xtreme Rich LOL
and here I am, smiling wide with my altus 8speed..
Tourney, 6-speed :D
@@Egorsmoll nice..
altus is for elite, bro... :( common mortals ride with Tourney
@@yyhama2013 guys I use to have microshift components, trust me the tourney is a dream compared to it
My long gone 3x10 performed better with top speed climbing maybe better than 1x12 and half the price these complete nutters neglect to tell you that pushing the ripoff
I think what Neil and Blake are saying is: SLX is "Nice", but XT is "Super Nice"
I don't get this, SLX is just a bit longer lasting XT. Nothing else, depending on the rest of your bike it's a visual thing and M7000 looks better then both new ones on my setup.
Hahaha, the sound Blake imitates when shifting down under load is so accurate XD.
Always love the videos when they are both riding together. Slx is great value for the money and enough for me.
Wow Blake is clipped in!
Yea I saw that too, guess Doddy convinced him after all!
It is a 40k ride...
@@danielmoore2555 Yeah that makes it better idea
@@AvojEtc And he's still doing some jumps
What!? Slx 12 speed! Shut up and take my money!
Lauritz Pieterse Hahahaha
Loved this episode!
Great scenery,!
Great biking!
Great reviews!
Great sound track!
Made me want to go back home to Devon and hit the trails. Keep up the good work gents 👍
Reviews? Straight up ad...
Blake was my absolute hero until about 5 minutes ago when he did the cream tea wrong and now, quite frankly, he’s dead to me. 💀
chairlord haha 😂 ma bad dude. Buuuut that’s the way the queen does it.
It’s tea bag with milk that’s the worst
Blake Samson what were you thinking the jam goes onto the scone “ssssCONE” first and then the cream, it just makes sense. And milk first is only for posh twats who use more then one cup to make a cuppa. YOU are not aloud up north ever again
What kind of psycho puts milk in tea?
About to get slx tomorrow!
my wallet feels light after watching this
Y’all at GMBN are seriously lucky
I wish I could be like you guyys 😭😭
Mohamed Fayaz they worked hard to have the possibility to test bikes qnd equipment
SLX or XT?!🤔 We in germany say "whine at a high level"😂😂😂. SLX and XT is so f.... good. My bike has XT and i LOVE IT😍. Simply perfekt 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nothing can beat the Tourney TX
except a wet noodle.
Mrs bought me an SLX rear brake for Father's Day and I actually have a Golf GTI as well 😂
I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had Shimano XT groupset on my old 26er bike. I really enjoyed metal shifters. On my current bike I have SLX which has plastic shifters. Not as nice feel but works just as well!
What do they both have in common? Well that’s easy, I can’t buy them both. 😂😭
Gauze Rider stop pitying ure self
Ryan Pitter well it’s the truth man. Lol
@@ryanpitter7531 update: I have xt now hahahaha
@@monarkfps good for you.. i only got altus.. xt and slx are too expensive for me.. 😊 but i'm a happy biker 👍👌
@@ryanpitter7531 nob
2:30 I thought Neil is going to bunny hop over that fence...
GMBN is awesome! They have inspired me to start mountain biking and create my own UA-cam channel (White Creek Outdoors). Thanks guys for the inspiration!
I liked the part about the scones the most.
Why do you guys never review something like the Altus or Acera? I have 1x11 SLX on my electric 27.5 commuter, XT on my hybrid bike and 3x9 Altus on my commuter 29er. Weight aside (which is ridiculously high for each of my three bikes because I'm heavy myself and simply don't care if it's 11 or 17 kgs), what is the difference between those drivetrains.....
My next bike better have a Shimano 12 spd drivetrain. I really like Eagle, but Shimano is just better than Sram.
Why is that? Been running SRAM on my bikes for years no issues. As well as older 2017 XT Group on my XC bike no issues as well and both perform well but nod to SRAM
@@deanemberley2333 imo because Multi-shift and Instant Release alone make Shimano superior to Sram....once you try an xt /xtr level shifter you wont ever be able to use a sram one again.
Morné Share had XT on my Scott Scale XC Bike. Not far better by any means
That’s just like, you’re opinion, man.
@@YerDad632 an informed one ;-)
Blake does his scones the Devon way, nice
milk in before the tea???? Philistine! (Thats NOT the way the Queen does it either!)
I just like the way with Nial explaining Blake is making a cream tea
That was a highlight. High Tea with Blake - I think we could see a spin off series for GMBN going on here. Maybe GSN - Global Scone Network or GTSN for Tea and Scone. ))
whoever picked phogue by felix deserves a major raise
Let's quickly do a summary what shimano gave us with their 12 speed drivetrain.
-We've got two gears up front! Totally need that!
-Anyone want to put it on your bike? Now you need to replace brake levers and install new hub which is really hard to get.
-Want to get XTR rotors with double price of XT rotor? You know what is the difference? Just a black paint on fins! Everything else is the same
-New pad standard! Another things which is hard to get.
Now let's focus on things we didn't get...
-New bottom bracket standard... Why we can't pay more?
-Anyone heard of cartridge bearings? They are really cool and need almost no maintaince. Guess what! Shimano is still using ball bearings so you need service it every month! Great huh? We love working on our bikes!
-Did you see SRAM AXS? Electric shifting sounds cool but nope.. ...shimano won't help you with 12 speed electronic drivetrain
In summary shimano doesn't care about making something good that isn't 3 years behind SRAM,they just want $$$
Nice video and real time review on the two systems. Also, love the liquid drum'n'bass etc in the background :D.
Sick! I Run a 11-46 cassette with a 30T ring 1x10. Had an XT 11speed RD, worked great but lunched it! Picked up a SLX 11 speed RD on sale and can't even tell the difference. IMO both are great, if you're not racing XC, SLX is the best bang for your buck! Cool to see the 12 speed from shimano in SLX, Great clip GMBN!
The FPS in that slow-mo at 4:50 makes that frontire look like standing still^^
You should try comparing them to deore m6000 ( if you compare the brakes)
Like if you agree.
These group sets in the video are both 12spd and the m6000 is a 10spd group so comparing them would be fair
James Fike sorry. I wasnt clear enough. I was talking about the brakes.
@@stefanlupu959 yeah I also thought about it. And with my experience they both are just as durable as each other but with xt and slx weighing less and the levers can be adjusted. Performance is very minimal
I wanna see the new deore m6000.
Link vg i will make a video on my chanel next week when I get them ;)
Actually just about to get the xt group set (including brakes) can't wait for it. Love the videos guys!!!
Awesome! Thanks Lachie Meehan 🙌
Blake: There's only one way now, and that's downhill 9:03
I upgraded my Fatboy specialized SE from its stock 10-speed I installed the Schramm Eagle NX 12 speed with the granny gear t50 and it's more than doubled my ability to take roads around here in Colorado my longest single run is 16 miles
Both you guys work well together...good video A+
great timing Shimano, currently i am looking for new brake set :)
get zee
@@mikdaddario6257 nice brakes for sure, but kinda overkill for my XC bike :)
Do the camera guys cycle with you or do they have different transport? E-bikes?
they use e-bikes, you can see in the road vs mtb video they made.
How about going oldschool by setting up a 2x12 drivetrain?😎
i didn't even concentrated what you guys talked about really, i just enjoyed video and the landscape and the two guys riding cool bikes. Simply beautiful. I just heard that they're similar in performance.
12 speed is it now then, for the forseeable.
Loving the hip bags,too, just got myself a Camelbak Repack 4 LR this week and it's been game changing having that weight off my back and not sweating like SOB.
This is the old man content I require! 😆 Just two dudes taking a nice ride, comparing some components.
More of this kind of content please 💜
great music choices on this episode
New Shimano XT and slx whaaaaaat
I'm happy with my 11-46 11 speed, not met a hill yet where I would need a lower gear
ran both derailleurs on my Trek fuel ex 7, ran the SLX M7000 11spd derailleur and SLX shifter for a few months and my biggest dislike on the SLX was chain drops, it did shift smoother but it felt sloppy you could say, went to the XT M8000 11spd derailleur and XTR shifter and WOW what a big difference it made! its been a great combo so far for the last 6 months, no more chain drops, while the shifting left tighter and stiffer it was way more precise just instant changes now :D
Any idea where this was filmed? It looks like a great ride
Blake is about to get murdered by a lot of angry Englishmen for making his tea wrong and putting cream before the jam. The jam is more viscus so it goes first as the cream is easier to spread on top. It's harder to spread jam on the cream
Sugar used to be expensive so rich people used to put the sugary jam on top to show their wealth. Still, I agree with you that jam should go first
so... are we not supposed to talk about Blake using clipless pedals?
I was completly shocked...
The trails around Minehead and Dunster are mountain biking's best kept secret.
Shhhh
6:50 Tellow feat. Klara Larsson - I Follow Your Heartbeat (COE Remix)
Blake is on cleats 😱😱
30 tooth chainring with 10-51 cassette for neil!!! It sound like he would never use that 51
guys how beautiful your place are wish we had that kind of trail here in PH you know.
Good to see Shimano have finally released non-XTR 12 speed. XTR isn't great value for money and the other 12 speed options (cough, SRAM, cough) have a rather unfortunate tendency to fall apart of course.
Denning76 dude! I am still riding a 1998 XTR group set 8 speed and apart from a front shift lever failure on the STI which I ride around, I have exactly 0 complaints. FYI I bought it as an upgrade to my 1996 Cannondale. So buy cheap, buy twice..
You’re correct. Sram gx eagle is a great drivetrain but it doesn’t last. Had a derailleur replaced under warranty after
Great review. Well... here in Turkey you can neither get a BMW M3 or Golf GTI nor an XT or SLX. Even Deore is a luxury for an average rider. We are shredded by the the currency :D
I think Deore is the real secret to budget components. May not be the lightest but very durable with all steel cassette that is one piece, so saves your hub body from getting chewed by the separate individual small cogs on XT and XTR.
We might start to see more bike brands using Shimano now
We can only hope. Imo shimano has always offered better performance to money, and the only thing stopping me from converting all my bikes ever to shimano is that I paid all this money for a good bike and go nx which flogged out in less than the life of 2 chains... but weirdly enough still shifts alright
I’m ‘the average rider’. I’m going for the SLX M7100 on the upcoming JAM2 6.7 PLUS.
Xt has been my go to drivetrain for yrs as xtr is much more $$ with marginal gain. BUT Slx has gotten so much better, it's now on my radar.
No, no, no, NO Blake. Jam then cream! (Great vid guys 😉)
And tea first, the amount of milk depends on how much tea there is. I think Blake is trying to annoy us.
Switched from eagle xo to Shimano xt - best choice i have ever made
I will definitely be upgrading to the 12 speed XT, but I still have a lot of life left on my 11 speed XT.
👍Same here
Just when i was going to switch back to flats, I see you Blake... clipless is the way huh
Hardheaded Jarhead hahaha do it.
Blake Samson back on flats, just feels right, specially when you bail, ive took the bike clipped to my feet as I flipped 😭😭😭😂
Good video, liked the direct comparison (but could have been 5-6 minutes) 👍
I use a SLX cassette on my XT groupset for my spare wheels lol
Only difference from the XT one: it has 2 aluminum cogs instead of just one LOL and weighs just about 50 grams more than the XT but costs half of it, great value Indeed
Do you have the route you can share with me? I visit the area regularly and would love to check it out!
Thank you SRAM, if it weren't for you everyone might still be riding a 1982 xt. Oooh that was mean 😀
And thanks to Shimano, we can now ride 12 speed drivetrains which won't fall to bits!
Denning76 idk about you but I've ridden my eagle for 2 years and have had no problems
@@NoxiousNoodles I still ride SLX on one bike. My point was sram got them off the pot. I've been around, back then shimano was becoming a monopoly and charging high dollar for junk. They made improvements because they were forced to or become the mongoose of the gear world.
@@BradyBBrickWallzDontTasteGood I've rode sram a long time but only been riding nx for six months without issue
@@dereksmith3632 Oh yeah I don't disagree at all. Just had all manner of problems with SRAM.
i thought that was Minehead at the beginning and i was right lmao
Literally live like an hour away from there nice to see riding near me donr get much down here
Finaly some tech majority of us CAN afford. :D Great video!
Thanks Zagica 👍
(2:32) What.... no monster bunny hopping of the gate? ;) I bet the GCN guys would have done it! I’m just saying’ Informative upload guys! Keep doing what you do!
Blake is climbing!!! and Neil is loving it!
Its really fun watching you guys...imma big fan! Best presenter ever...for the more juicy stuff...Doody the best got to guy in the world!
I hope you do Zee vs Saint next.
More Power to GMBN!
Thanks for watching!
Great video lads
Love pretty much all the GMBN vids, keep it up...and as an English Lad living in So-Cal, missing a good scone with jam and clotted cream - and yes Blake - cream first then the Jam... 6:20
Blake is using clipless😍😍
Yall are the best MTB Channel on UA-cam
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I would of bought if normal spline hub. Not paying out for new wheel set too
will probaly also work with a sram nx cassette
Depending on your wheels you may be able to already get a Microspline freehub body.
Global Mountain Bike Network I think my wheels are DT Swiss but branded to be cube do you know of DT Swiss do a micro spline replacement?
Thanks, for the review, guys! I've been an XT-guy, but now when SLX comes with some nice little but handy features, I'm keen to try it. Also, I like your new playlist of the background music!
Can you publish your route in a gpx file perhaps? Sure uk subs would like to ride it. Cheers
Keep an eye out for tomorrow's video Rupert 👍
Me or any of the Exmoor Mountain Biking riders would be happy to show you around. Find us on FB
For me logical investment steps from Deore up is Deore-XT, XTR I iwll probably never be able to buy, unless I tumble up on it. The SLX step is always like ok I could buy it, but why not wait till I can get XT. And that is what happened...before I take a system upward...I guess. SLX I had on a road bike, and it was all too tidy, all too, fragile feeling, and far too above class, I could resist, but why when I can sell it for more, so I sold it for more, and took XT? It's that simple... And now I am back to Deore on a new bike, and move, will be somewhere up again, but why SLX, I still don't really know why :D But thank you for your viewpoints! It's helped...to realize SLX exists. :D
Pro tip for trekking: use slx rd 7120 with ultegra r8000 36 46 crankarm and 11 speed 11 46 cassette witg xt rapid fire m8000. With xt 11 speed you can't use 2x46 but with slx 12 7120 you can.
I just went from XT 2x10 on my tallboy to XT 1x11 on my Tallboy. Looks like that will be moving over to my hardtail to make room for the 1x12 as soon as Hope comes out with the drvier for the Pro II hub.
Somehow you forgot to mention it's 1x12 at the start of the video. I actually had to google it, to see if shimano has trickled things down.
They say it two times in the Video
Blake riding clips 😯
How are your legs? Exmoor is seriously punchy!!
Blake nice too see you having your cream tea the correct way 👍 eating like a true athlete 💪🏻
Max b hahaha it’s the only way to eat a cream tea right?!
@@Zimblake Yes and if anyone tells you any different they are a wrong 😀
Super nice work ! nice music also!! :D
You guys should ride triscombe, only about 15 mins from minehead and pretty much a bike park
Jam first Blake ;)
Anywhos, I'm more interested in the Crossking vs Trailking for that sort of ride.
Cross for the miles, but Trail for those rocks?
good that there's an affordable 12 speed groupset that you can shift down and pedal at the same time, without breaking anything or jam gears.
Xt cassettes are a lot stronger because they are riveted together. I've tacoed two of the SLX while climbing. No I was not shifting at the time. XT just eventually wear out. That's just been my experience.
Super-funny and informative clip - thanx a lot guys. Greetings from nearby Canyon-HQ :-)
I'm getting full SLX
Hey nice video ! I just wanted to know if these groupsets a lot more expensive than the previous versions, thank you
Not much more.
C.J. Burtwell are you sure ?
See the bikeradar website for full pricing and weights
Na Blake. In Scotland we put the Whisky 🥃 in before the tea 🫖
I think the message from this is that XTR is supergood for racers, XT is a bit less supergood but will be very popular for people who are serious mtb types and SLX is a work horse. Other than that the only thing I learned from this is that I need to go and ride Exmoor.
"is a bit less supergood"
Jesus Crist.....
Lol - I do like a good spot of tea in the afternoon.
always find slx crankset more cool than xt
One by with the smaller cassette, I have 11 speed now and don’t need the extra range but the closer together cogs would be sweet
Blake you heathen... It's milk in last, and jam before cream 👍
you have some interesting "hip bags" or whatever these are called. In summer I always suffer from insanely sweating wearing a common rucksack. could be a good solution, if they stay in place during rougher rides??!!
TorstenCX you can tighten them a lot and then they don't budge
The milk definitely doesn’t go first, disappointing!
You dare to defy your queen!?
Bobby Hempel Dracarys 🔥🔥🔥
It comes first. This habit originates from a time when the ceramic of the cups were not that heat resistent and would explode due to the heat shock when putting in the tea first. To avoid this milk is put in first to cool down the hot tea when entering the cup.
Commend whoever chooses your backing music. Loving that liquid DNB/Breakbeat stuff