1:23 A few presets 2:52 American is the typical concert grand 3:19 Japanese Grand is brighter and more punchy, more suited to modern genres 3:39 Pop Upright Clean is a typical home piano. Plucked Grand Clean is more cinematic. 4:17 Macro controls, demo of how they affect the sound. 5:35 Brightness controls hammer hardness, Timbre controls piano's age. Advanced Panel 6:24 Demo of Action controls - Hammer position, Release Time, Dynamics 7:22 Acoustics controls. Soundboard Resonance, how much the strings will vibrate as a result of movement of neighbouring strings. Demo. 8:22 Mics. Mic positions over the piano, 4 presets. Demo. 9:03 Strings. Stretch Tuning, how much the higher notes are progressively tuned higher in relation to the lower notes. Demo. Unison Detune demo. Age control demo. 10:50 Noises section. Key Release - the sound the hammers make when they return to initial position. Sustain Pedal noise. Demo. 11:32 Keyboard section. Velocity curves. FX 12:01 3 band EQ. + and -15 db 12:30 Compressor. Preamp, saturation. Reverb, 13 algorithms. 12:57 Demos. 14:20 Wrap up
I really believe in physical modeling as the future for piano vsts. At the moment I have to say that sample based vsts still sound a lot more realistic than piano V, but all the tweak able parameters make up for it in my opinion. And in the long term it will sound more and more realistic.
Well… I wonder why you guys keep comparing sample based piano vsts with physical modeling… sample based don’t sound any better. With Physical modeling, you need to know how the real instruments work like the piano. You should have some background knowledge of the real instrument and as well as sound design for you to be able to get something out of physical modeling. With sample based… the work has already been done. For example Keyscape sounds so amazing out of the box. I love physical modeling cause it opens the doors to more possibilities.
@@Prexsplay I was only agreeing that spitfire is great lol. I think the physical modeling is fantastic as well, personally. I’m stoked about the Arturia piano update.
@@Prexsplay it's hard to argue about that with just text, but in my opinion sample based just sounds more realistic and trust me I know how a piano works, I'm playing it since I'm 5.
when i use the piano v3 as a plug-in in Ableton Live.....it works....but after playing for about 10mins......the sounds just died....like as if the load was too much for the computer....even though buffer sizes were set very high..... i wonder anyone else experienced this
one concern I have is 12:57 if some effort is needed to press down the key, then does it make it harder to play expressively... because like some pieces, it may require soft touch or soft press, but if you need to use some force, will it make it harder?
What you do is play at various levels as directed... pp p mf f ff, and the software learns your touch. It maps the numbers coming from your controller to the software's range, so your style has access to all. In addition to that, the Dynamics macro lets you increase or reduce the sensitivity during performance. So with those two facilities, it's quite possible to have how YOU play work exactly with the software.
when i use the piano v3 as a plug-in in Ableton Live.....it works....but after playing for about 10mins......the sounds just died....like as if the load was too much for the computer....even though buffer sizes were set very high..... i wonder anyone else experienced this
Arturia please!! We are looking for the models of your controller keyboards here in Brazil and we are not finding them on the market. Please look at us here in Brazil. I really want to buy an Arturia midi controller and I can't buy it. Thank you very much.
i hav the Montage, Nords...etc......just bot the Arturia....problem is it depends 100% on your computer..... gives me alot of headache....becos...computer gliches affect the Arturia and extremely difficult to identify or trouble shoot.....each session i have with the Arturia....i surely have to re boot my computer 3 or 5 times......u might want to think about that before buying this beautiful Arturia piano
The pianos sound underwhelming - tinny and thin to me - one of the least impressive areas of V8 in my humble opinion, e.g. compared to Nord Electro, Korg or Kurzweil - am I missing something?
Piano V is a modelled piano, meaning it's a really intense synthesizer. Your keyboards are all sampled instruments, meaning they're actual recordings. Currently, modeled instruments lack alot of the upper harmonics, and pianos especially have a lack in the low-ish mid frequencies which leads them to sound "tinny". They also don't have all the noises that real pianos have, like the sound of the hammers rubbing against each other and the pedal moving up and down.
Very impressive yet still not even close to being a substitute for either the real thing or some of the nicer sampled pianos. So I am a little disappointed with this update but I think the problem might be I was hoping for the impossible. I believe you will do the impossible eventually, because I think your instruments and technology are incredible.
Some of the stereo mic setups appear to be having phase filtering issues that you would not have irl. Very noticable when listening with monitors instead of headphones. Edit: Could be an issue in my room. I found it helps narrowing the stereo spread i.e with Utility in Ableton Live. In general I like the Piano V better with narrower spread!
She is not a real pianist! It is wrongly done showcase… she hasn’t really played much of a real piano from the expression and feel. Arturia should have hired a real pianist who has a little background in sound design to be able to bring out the best in this software. Physical modeling is not for everyone. Well… I wonder why you guys keep comparing sample based piano vsts with physical modeling… sample based don’t sound any better. With Physical modeling, you need to know how the real instruments work like the piano. You should have some background knowledge of the real instrument and as well as sound design for you to be able to get something out of physical modeling. With sample based… the work has already been done. For example Keyscape sounds so amazing out of the box. I love physical modeling cause it opens the doors to more possibilities.
@@Prexsplay If you need a professional pianist with a background in sound design to make a piano VI sound decent, then it's back to the drawing board at this point. There's already so much good stuff already out there that requires little to no tweaking.
@@AlexNiedt my point is, the whole essence of physical modeling is for you to craft your piano in a certain way you like. I am not against having an amazing piano sound… ofcourse there are tons of them out there. The concept behind Physical modeling in my opinion is for the user to sculpt the sound to your personal liking not for the instruments to sound “good” from the start. That’s why I maintain “physical modeling is not for everyone”. The reason I mentioned sound designer and a pianist is for tutorial purpose. Ofcourse it’s a product that any one with any background in music can get. So I didn’t mean everyone should have a background in sound design or be a pianist. In my opinion, she didn’t do justice to the virtual instrument. If I was a novice, this tutorial will not take me anywhere near what physical modeling is all about. I hope you got my point? Cheers.
@@Amusiastudio Arturia has not done a good job with their Piano V, none of the versions have been convincing. pianoteq is so much better. When it comes to sampled pianos, unless they also have modelling, they can never sound realistic, as it is impossible to capture the string resonance sound of the keys played, and it isn't possible to have the notes respond realistically to the playing, and how the hammer interacts with strings that are in motion. Samples captures the sound of a single note, played in a specific way. But most, if not all piano sample software applies some synthesis to the sound, so one can't even trigger the unaltered single note sound that was captured. Unfortunately there has been a belief in the industry that samples could capture pianos fully, and people like Christian Henson of Spitfire audio, only recently discovered how many nuances of a piano is lost when sampling to build a software piano. To my ears Pianoteq is the most realistic piano software out there, for playing more than a single note. I'm in general not a fan of the sound of Steinway pianos, they sound muted, with much less string resonances compared to most other pianos. So for someone that is not very familiar with steinway pianos and is a fan of the sound as well, I would suggest listening to demos of other pianos, preferably some they have heard. (steinway was never considered the gold standard, they simply were clever of offering leasing deals to music conservatories, so they became wide spread and people coming out of a higher end music education would be accustomed to playing steinway and were likely to ask for them for gigs or aspire to own one, and that is how the brand got big, not by being considered the best)
Hello Arturia, She is not a real pianist! It is a wrongly done showcase… she hasn’t really played much of a real piano from the expression and feel. Arturia should have hired a real pianist who has a little background in sound design to be able to bring out the best in this software. Physical modeling is not for everyone. I appreciate the beautiful face but this is not good enough for physical modeling of a piano such as Piano V3.
@@Nick-mt4wk well… I didn’t say anything about myself bro! I know what I know and it’s my opinion. U agree or you move on. Don’t get it personal. Peace my friend.
@@Nick-mt4wk hey bro… I wasn’t attacking her personally common… I expected more from the tutorial. This is my way of giving a constructive criticism. Like I said, move on if you don’t like it. By the way, thanks for dropping by my channel. Its your turn to give some constructive criticism. Cheers bro! 😎👍🏾
@@Nick-mt4wk another point, who are you to tell me what to say or not to say! Can I see a video of you playing the piano or explaining some techniques or just show me what you got bro!
1:23 A few presets
2:52 American is the typical concert grand
3:19 Japanese Grand is brighter and more punchy, more suited to modern genres
3:39 Pop Upright Clean is a typical home piano. Plucked Grand Clean is more cinematic.
4:17 Macro controls, demo of how they affect the sound. 5:35 Brightness controls hammer hardness, Timbre controls piano's age.
Advanced Panel
6:24 Demo of Action controls - Hammer position, Release Time, Dynamics
7:22 Acoustics controls. Soundboard Resonance, how much the strings will vibrate as a result of movement of neighbouring strings. Demo.
8:22 Mics. Mic positions over the piano, 4 presets. Demo.
9:03 Strings. Stretch Tuning, how much the higher notes are progressively tuned higher in relation to the lower notes. Demo. Unison Detune demo. Age control demo.
10:50 Noises section. Key Release - the sound the hammers make when they return to initial position. Sustain Pedal noise. Demo.
11:32 Keyboard section. Velocity curves.
FX
12:01 3 band EQ. + and -15 db
12:30 Compressor. Preamp, saturation. Reverb, 13 algorithms. 12:57 Demos.
14:20 Wrap up
The updated instruments in V9 are a significant improvement. The Piano, CS-80 and Prophet-5 finally sound “alive”.
I agree - I have only tried the piano so far and it's more fun to play and get lost in
Are the ones in V 10 the same as in V 9?
I really believe in physical modeling as the future for piano vsts. At the moment I have to say that sample based vsts still sound a lot more realistic than piano V, but all the tweak able parameters make up for it in my opinion. And in the long term it will sound more and more realistic.
Spitfire are mvp for me
@@lolaproductions9725 the spitfire piano that came with ableton live 11 suite is top notch.
Well… I wonder why you guys keep comparing sample based piano vsts with physical modeling… sample based don’t sound any better. With Physical modeling, you need to know how the real instruments work like the piano. You should have some background knowledge of the real instrument and as well as sound design for you to be able to get something out of physical modeling.
With sample based… the work has already been done. For example Keyscape sounds so amazing out of the box. I love physical modeling cause it opens the doors to more possibilities.
@@Prexsplay I was only agreeing that spitfire is great lol. I think the physical modeling is fantastic as well, personally. I’m stoked about the Arturia piano update.
@@Prexsplay it's hard to argue about that with just text, but in my opinion sample based just sounds more realistic and trust me I know how a piano works, I'm playing it since I'm 5.
Great plugin and lovely presentation
when i use the piano v3 as a plug-in in Ableton Live.....it works....but after playing for about 10mins......the sounds just died....like as if the load was too much for the computer....even though buffer sizes were set very high..... i wonder anyone else experienced this
Hmmm....not cutting it. Will have to try it myself.
So good than makes my CPU cry.
so can we make our own velocity curve by moving the points?...delete points or create new points?...ie...manually adjust the curve?
After I tried Piano V2 for the first time I never used any sampled pianos again. Don't really know what can be done better there.
Wow, bravo!
one concern I have is 12:57 if some effort is needed to press down the key, then does it make it harder to play expressively... because like some pieces, it may require soft touch or soft press, but if you need to use some force, will it make it harder?
What you do is play at various levels as directed... pp p mf f ff, and the software learns your touch. It maps the numbers coming from your controller to the software's range, so your style has access to all. In addition to that, the Dynamics macro lets you increase or reduce the sensitivity during performance. So with those two facilities, it's quite possible to have how YOU play work exactly with the software.
You can tweek the velocity response (how light or hard you need to touch to play harder) to your taste
when i use the piano v3 as a plug-in in Ableton Live.....it works....but after playing for about 10mins......the sounds just died....like as if the load was too much for the computer....even though buffer sizes were set very high..... i wonder anyone else experienced this
Mon vst de piano préfère 😍😍❤
Is it a paid update?
This is part of a collection of instruments, of course you most upgrade
It looks like $49 USD until June then it's $250! Does t seem worth it to me
Arturia please!! We are looking for the models of your controller keyboards here in Brazil and we are not finding them on the market. Please look at us here in Brazil. I really want to buy an Arturia midi controller and I can't buy it. Thank you very much.
@@RikTheMix Yes. That could be it.
i hav the Montage, Nords...etc......just bot the Arturia....problem is it depends 100% on your computer..... gives me alot of headache....becos...computer gliches affect the Arturia and extremely difficult to identify or trouble shoot.....each session i have with the Arturia....i surely have to re boot my computer 3 or 5 times......u might want to think about that before buying this beautiful Arturia piano
How about iOS/Mac (M1) OS versions?
Any big updates to this over Piano V2?
it is said that the keys are really heavy to play... but if Lena can do it, so can I (I think)
The pianos sound underwhelming - tinny and thin to me - one of the least impressive areas of V8 in my humble opinion, e.g. compared to Nord Electro, Korg or Kurzweil - am I missing something?
Piano V is a modelled piano, meaning it's a really intense synthesizer. Your keyboards are all sampled instruments, meaning they're actual recordings. Currently, modeled instruments lack alot of the upper harmonics, and pianos especially have a lack in the low-ish mid frequencies which leads them to sound "tinny". They also don't have all the noises that real pianos have, like the sound of the hammers rubbing against each other and the pedal moving up and down.
Pianoteq is all modeled and they are the gold standard of modeled pianos
Played so lightly it was hard to hear the character fully. But at least the tutor can play a bit.
she is so gorgeous... I wish they are all in California...
Very impressive yet still not even close to being a substitute for either the real thing or some of the nicer sampled pianos. So I am a little disappointed with this update but I think the problem might be I was hoping for the impossible. I believe you will do the impossible eventually, because I think your instruments and technology are incredible.
Some of the stereo mic setups appear to be having phase filtering issues that you would not have irl. Very noticable when listening with monitors instead of headphones. Edit: Could be an issue in my room. I found it helps narrowing the stereo spread i.e with Utility in Ableton Live. In general I like the Piano V better with narrower spread!
the problem with Piano V (also V3) is, that it sounds absolute not (!) real. not one note. thats very disapointing.
@@pinkanimals keylab 88 is fully weighted
She is not a real pianist! It is wrongly done showcase… she hasn’t really played much of a real piano from the expression and feel. Arturia should have hired a real pianist who has a little background in sound design to be able to bring out the best in this software. Physical modeling is not for everyone.
Well… I wonder why you guys keep comparing sample based piano vsts with physical modeling… sample based don’t sound any better. With Physical modeling, you need to know how the real instruments work like the piano. You should have some background knowledge of the real instrument and as well as sound design for you to be able to get something out of physical modeling.
With sample based… the work has already been done. For example Keyscape sounds so amazing out of the box. I love physical modeling cause it opens the doors to more possibilities.
@@Prexsplay If you need a professional pianist with a background in sound design to make a piano VI sound decent, then it's back to the drawing board at this point. There's already so much good stuff already out there that requires little to no tweaking.
@@AlexNiedt my point is, the whole essence of physical modeling is for you to craft your piano in a certain way you like. I am not against having an amazing piano sound… ofcourse there are tons of them out there. The concept behind Physical modeling in my opinion is for the user to sculpt the sound to your personal liking not for the instruments to sound “good” from the start. That’s why I maintain “physical modeling is not for everyone”. The reason I mentioned sound designer and a pianist is for tutorial purpose. Ofcourse it’s a product that any one with any background in music can get. So I didn’t mean everyone should have a background in sound design or be a pianist.
In my opinion, she didn’t do justice to the virtual instrument. If I was a novice, this tutorial will not take me anywhere near what physical modeling is all about. I hope you got my point? Cheers.
I have the Piano V as part of V Collection 8. I'm not impressed with the sound regardless if it's modeled or not.
Meh, not realistic at all to my ears. Haven't really heard a physical modeled piano sound realistic at all, not even Pianoteq.
I feel the same. Comparing this to something like Keyscape. Night and day
@@Amusiastudio Arturia has not done a good job with their Piano V, none of the versions have been convincing. pianoteq is so much better.
When it comes to sampled pianos, unless they also have modelling, they can never sound realistic, as it is impossible to capture the string resonance sound of the keys played, and it isn't possible to have the notes respond realistically to the playing, and how the hammer interacts with strings that are in motion.
Samples captures the sound of a single note, played in a specific way. But most, if not all piano sample software applies some synthesis to the sound, so one can't even trigger the unaltered single note sound that was captured. Unfortunately there has been a belief in the industry that samples could capture pianos fully, and people like Christian Henson of Spitfire audio, only recently discovered how many nuances of a piano is lost when sampling to build a software piano.
To my ears Pianoteq is the most realistic piano software out there, for playing more than a single note.
I'm in general not a fan of the sound of Steinway pianos, they sound muted, with much less string resonances compared to most other pianos. So for someone that is not very familiar with steinway pianos and is a fan of the sound as well, I would suggest listening to demos of other pianos, preferably some they have heard. (steinway was never considered the gold standard, they simply were clever of offering leasing deals to music conservatories, so they became wide spread and people coming out of a higher end music education would be accustomed to playing steinway and were likely to ask for them for gigs or aspire to own one, and that is how the brand got big, not by being considered the best)
Then which plugins vst have realistic piano sounds?
@@DJYAD19 Keyscape, UVI KeySuite Acoustic, IK Multimedia Pianoverse, just to name a few.
@@justinhavu Yeah I have the keyscape & Multimedia Pianoverse and I have these as a cracked
Unrealistic
Another sales pitch disguised as a 'TUTORIAL'. Crappy house music included lol
Hello Arturia, She is not a real pianist!
It is a wrongly done showcase… she hasn’t really played much of a real piano from the expression and feel. Arturia should have hired a real pianist who has a little background in sound design to be able to bring out the best in this software.
Physical modeling is not for everyone.
I appreciate the beautiful face but this is not good enough for physical modeling of a piano such as Piano V3.
@@Nick-mt4wk well… I didn’t say anything about myself bro! I know what I know and it’s my opinion. U agree or you move on. Don’t get it personal. Peace my friend.
@@Nick-mt4wk hey bro… I wasn’t attacking her personally common… I expected more from the tutorial. This is my way of giving a constructive criticism. Like I said, move on if you don’t like it. By the way, thanks for dropping by my channel. Its your turn to give some constructive criticism.
Cheers bro! 😎👍🏾
@@Nick-mt4wk another point, who are you to tell me what to say or not to say! Can I see a video of you playing the piano or explaining some techniques or just show me what you got bro!
@@Prexsplay Jerk