DEWALT 60V MAX Brushless 12 in Double Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw Review | DCS781 | ep.3
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- We take a look at the brand new to market DeWALT 12 inch double bevel sliding compound miter saw. This is the second generation of a 12 inch flexvolt miter saw and it packs some new features. In short this is probably the best traditional rail style 12 inch double bevel sliding compound cordless miter saw you can buy. This saw will make most people happy.
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0:00 - DCS781 cutting LVL
0:51 - Intro
2:38 - DCS781 Marketing specs
4:18 - DCS781 Close up left side
7:50 - DCS781 Dust flap port
9:45 - DCS781 Fence
10:17 - DCS781 Miter Angles
11:56 - DCS781 Bevels
13:30 - DCS781 Bevel Lock
14:52 - DCS781 Chop & Travel lock
17:53 - DCS781 Close up right side
18:36 - DCS781 Handle & trigger
19:17 - DCS781 Cut line Indicator
21:23 - DCS781 Accuracy
28:06 - DCS781 Max cut against the fence
30:28 - DCS781 Final thoughts
31:50 - DCS781 Key components
33:10 - DCS781 Cut capture charge regen
34:11 - DCS781 Cutting footage
37:37 - DCS781 Max Cut Capacity
39:19 - DCS781 vs LVL
Easily tackle demanding woodworking applications with the 60V MAX 12in. Double Bevel Sliding Miter Saw. Cut. Capture. Charge: with Regenerative Braking Technology to extend runtime with virtually every cut, up to 675 cuts in 3-1/4 in. MDF base molding or up to 255 cuts in pressure treated 4 in. x 4 in. timber, all on only one DEWALT FLEXVOLT DCB609 battery. This miter saw features an efficient bevel gear transmission and has the ability to capture up to 94% of dust. The CUTLINE blade positioning system provides accurate cut line indication. The saw also features updated controls designed for overall ergonomics compared to previous DEWALT designs. At a weight of 50.9 lb (tool only), easily take this saw on the go across demanding jobsites.
SINGLE BATTERY OPERATION Capable power from 60V MAX* to tackle professional applications. Battery sold separately
EXCEPTIONAL RUNTIME Delivers up to 675 cuts in 3 1/4 in. MDF Base Molding & 255 cuts in pressure treated 4 in. x 4 in. Lumber
CUT.CAPTURE.CHARGE Regenerative Braking Technology extends runtime by redirecting lost energy back into the battery (sold separately).
EFFICIENT DUST CAPTURE Up to 94% of dust captured when cutting 2x10 SPF using DWV015 Dust Extractor (sold separately).
DUAL-FITTING DUST PORT Standard AirLock port for seamless integration with DEWALT extractors, also compatible with standard 1-7/8 in. & 2-1/2 in. wet/dry vacuums with included adapter. (Extractors and wet/dry vacuums sold separately.)
OPTIMIZED CAPACITY Cuts 6-1/2 in. Baseboard Vertically, 6-1/2 in. Crown Molding Nested & 12-3/16 in. wide lumber
PROVEN ACCURACY - CUTLINE blade positioning system provides adjustment-free cut line indication
CONVENIENT PORTABILITY Optimized design weighs only 50.9 lb (bare tool) for easy transport
BEVEL-GEAR TRANSMISSION delivers fast, reliable cutting and is designed to reduce the power losses that may occur with belt-drive designs
EASE OF USE: Easy blade change and cut depth, miter and bevel cut adjustment
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Thankyou so much for the lesson bro!!! My first ever miter saw and I feel I got every detail I needed to get started.
I really wanna see a tear down on this miter saw, because dewalt engineers make some crazy complicated tools
Great video on this new saw and I really enjoy ur spec tables for drills 🎉
Great job explaining
Awesome review. Like someone else commented I wasn't so sure on watching a 40min review but once I started I couldn't stop. Great stuff. Reckon in the future you could do a review on a Festool compound mitre saw? Im now subscribed and looking forward to more reviews like this.
Great Review!
Great video. Great review. Liked and subbed!
dude, i saw 40 minute video on a miter saw and flipped but, I enjoyed every minute of it. Thanks for the thorough review! I was considering this or the xgt 12 inch. Are you going to review that XGT saw?
That thing is awesome I want one
How would you override miter detents on this saw if say you wanted 45.1 degrees? All of my old dewalt miter saws have a miter Detent override
How would you rate this saw vs the Makita XGT 12" and Flex 24v 12"?
Nice video of your left arm
Best saw on the market to date
Unfortunately it did not come with tool connect like the track saw did
Dewalt makes some dumb choices for some odd reason.
Damn that would be so sweet if it did have tool connect
I’ve heard brushless motors are more quiet. I have tinnitus. Does anyone have the decibel level on this model? Thanks in advance.
never mine, after testing dewalt dcs781 it a nice saw / but it is very LOUD miter saw also the rail are not so smooth / dust issue just fair. IT a very good saw but NOT for me / up for sale i guess, planning to buy the makita 40v 12inch miter saw. nice video
When you were measuring the angle of the blade with the saw extended vs not extended, the flaw in the methodology was that the carbide tips of the blade are wider than the middle of the blade. Unless you measure edge to edge you will see a variance in angle.
I'm not sure which part of the measurements you were referring to. When he was using the Klein or the Stabila?
And, have you ever seen one of the DeWalt blades up close? Their carbide is so miniscule that it doesn't have much of a variance between kerf and blade thickness. Lol. So in all seriousness, I wouldn't see it affecting the measurements he did. But I'll go back and look again.
No! The teeth and the rest of the blade are at the angle indicated. Bevel cuts may show a difference in angle due to deflection where as miter cuts are generally more accurate. Basically the less material the blade has to travel through the more accurate it will be and cuts will be less stress on the saw
I'm not sure if I seen it, but did you test the fence to the plate for 90° ? That's one major flaw I always experienced with every makita Miter saw. The fence would never be at 90° to the plate.
Also, with previous Dewalt SCMS 779/780/790 , I'd need to calibrate it out of the box. Then, I'd need to sand the plate (base/table assembly they call it... where you rest the wood lol) because they would always have the outer edge of the plate a bit off and cause boards to lift up about 1 mm at the end of my cut.
Also, I'd need to recalibrate it far too often.
Lastly, I mightve missed it, but from my research, it doesn't appear to offer plug in power adapter anymore... that was one reallllly great aspect of the previous model that I wish all high end saws would use.
In the end, no perfect SCMS exists. I'm still using my old 779 (type 20, before the butchered that saw) for cutting metals, and the 12" Bosch glide for wood. I'm always hoping a perfect saw will one day arrive, but I'm not holding my breath (unless someone is using a Milwaukee, because that dust is everywhere 🤣 🤣 🤣.
The perfect saw is always going to be the dream. Now days it’s really how close can we get.
But yeah no more adapter for plug-in. At least not yet. I would imagine they ran some numbers and figured it wasn’t worth the extra investment.
Ok…. Which saw is best this saw or the Makita 12 you just purchased?
Looks like a good saw but still went with a makita 40v 12 inch and love that saw and seems dewalt have smaller cutting capacity than the makita , the only downside with makita is the weight but paired with bosch gravity rise mitre saw stand makes transporting very easy , battery on makita lasts for long time on normal use I get 4-5 hours of moderate use and have 2 40v ah batteries so there is no downtime there , also could be the design or the motor that makes effortless cutting no matter what you cut either hardwoods or softwoods , pricewise the saw and the stand costs here in Canada around 2000$ still cheaper than festool kapex , so I am happy with makita , had bad experience with milwaukee both 10" and 12" mitre saws and the bosch 12" profactor has very big deflection at the extended lengtht, so either dewalt or for few extra hundreds go for makita
Which blade do you use most?
@MadLadsAnonymous currently I use that makita stock blade
very good video, big question money no issue if you going to buy one of these miter saw which one is the best one to pick? makita 40v miter saw 12 inch OR dewalt 60v miter saw DCS-781. please let me thanks!!!!
Go with makita you'll be amazed and very nice saw , I own one and enjoy working with it , it's second after festool or almost as festool
@@agent7agent759 thanks!!!!!
@@agent7agent759not even close to festool
Can this model be ran off battery and wall outlets both like the previous 120v version???
No
DeWalt (esp their Miter Saws) has hurt me too much in the past... I cant open my heart to them again. 🤣🤣🤣
That’s unfortunate. I feel the same way about ridgid.
@@4thewinak I luckily didn't need to buy too many of tje Ridgid to learn that lesson... but the Ridgid I did buy were pricey. Planer, Jointer, bandsaw. All were 👎.
I really like the stand. Does anyone know the make/model?
It’s the ridgid miter saw stand, model AC9946
@@4thewinak Thanks! Much appreciated!
You’ve tested this saw and the Makita 12” 40v … which saw is your favorite.
Personally I like the makita bc of the smoothness and similar controls. But can’t go wrong with either.
I would say the makita is what wood workers would like, and the dewalt is a solid job site saw.
@@4thewinak thank you :). I own a construction company. I use three different trim crews, depends on their availability. Anyway all the crew are owned by first generation European immigrants (Bosnia, Croatia and Ukraine)! Anyway they love their Festool tools BUT 100% of these crews run Dewalt miter and table saws. All run corded units. Their track saws, sanders and vacuums are festool. I’ve asked them why Dewalt. Their answers have consistently been this (1) “it’s what we learned on” (2) their indestructible (3) their affordable yet decent quality.
I have both the dhs716 and dhs790 and this new 60v saw sounds underpowered. Just by the way it's cutting it appears to be labouring. No load rpm is the same at 3800 but the amperage draw cannot be equal between the two as the first gen has 2 batteries vs the second generations single battery.
This saw is not underpowered compared to the two you have. I have this one and it cuts everything I put under it smooth as butter. Built a planter out of old pallets for my wife using 6x6 corner posts. Best two things on the newer model are the battery life and dust collection. Made all my cuts in the garage with a shop vac hooked up and there was hardly anything to clean off the saw or the bench.
Sounds weaker? Lol. Maybe Dewalt put technology into this saw to save power.
when u make cuts & ur arm is in the way...its a bummer
One 9 amp hour battery is not better than two 6 amp hour batteries. The two 60 volt battery system means that you can use a 120 volt corded adapter. This isn't possible with the new saw. Whats more is the fact that 6 amp hour batteries are ubiquitous on job sites. The 9 amp hour batteries... not so much. And have you priced the difference between 6/9 amp hour batteries? Big difference for us small contractors/home owners.
Depends on which way you look at it. the 2x 60v batteries will be in series at 120v allowing it to operate more efficiently and draw less current. Also allow you to use the AC adapter.
Single battery means operating at 60v and will need more current thus being less efficient (assuming all is equal).
Personally I don't mind dual battery systems as most people using these tools will have multiple batteries, but some people seem against it.
Couldn't get a dewalt stand? LOL just kidding
The saw looks great but the motor some how looks a lot like an angle grinder
Bc it’s not belt drive probably
When a Milwaukee person makes a dewalt video... It's not gen 2 lol it's a whole new saw. The 1st one was 120v
This is 60v...
all good except dust collection...still not acceptable.
until they start putting dust collection behind and under the saw the dust collection on miter saws is going to be a losing battle.
Still by far the best dust collection out there
I have this and dust collection is pretty bad. Someone else did a review video and noted that the rubber piece behind the blade closes down every time you make a cut so the sawdust cannot get sucked up. Terrible design.
@@jameskelly4494 Not on this saw you must have the other saw
@@loucifer4205 Same saw 781
The misfits at DeWalt should have equipped this unit with an optional 120VAC plug-in feature JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS MODEL. The bastards just want to force customers to buy MORE batteries!! I'll be skipping this model...
The number of cuts this saw makes you'll probably only need one battery
You don't need an AC adapter... With even just 2 batteries you'll run for a couple days.
Dewalt is the only one with corded or cordless miter saw , the other brands only offer one way
Dewalt is just doing the same now
I dont see a problem with that
It's only a 60v machine, how do you think you can you possibly power it with 120v mains power
It's because the ac adapter burns out the motor. Ac vs dc voltage. So buy the corded version if you prefer