@@weegeequeviucoisas9854 Yeah I know that's the joke. And as a person still active in the competitive community, I am dismissing it. Because, while it is a small community, we have multiple online weeklies, and people still keeping the game going.
@@ErebusWolf I'm in the OCE bro, I would join in the gauntlet if I could lmao. locals here only get 3 players at their tourneys. The game is fun but it's dead here
@@mackyeroelink9623 I know there are a few good Aus and NZ players. They may not be at your locals but if you look into the community you can find them online.
From my understanding it wasn’t licensing issues that kept X-Men fantastic four from Marvel. It was just the fact that Marvel didn’t own the movie rights to the characters at the time so they didn’t want to promote characters that they couldn’t put on film. That’s why Marvel wasn’t really doing a lot with those characters in the comics as well.
Yeah, that was around the time where Marvel had canceled the Fantastic Four ongoing and were downplaying the X-Men to prop up the Inhumans. It... wasn't a great time to be a fan of non MCU characters.
O jogo servia mais de propaganda para o MCU, por isso os persongens tem visuais equivalentes ao dos filmes, os únicos que nem estão nesse universo é o Nova, Motoqueiro Fantasma e o Venom, apesar dele ser "canônico" por causa do SMNWH, e isso não se aplica apenas nesse jogo, todo produto da Marvel que não fossem os quadrinhos, tinham alguma ou várias características para se parecer com o MCU, já perdi as contas de quantas vezes tinham referências ou visuais idênticos ao dos filmes, fora também a exclusão dos X-Men e Quarteto Fantástico nos desenhos da Marvel quando eram feitos pela finada Marvel Television
In general, I feel Infinite’s sound design is all over the place and is never really consistent. A lot of the vocal performances of the characters (even if they’re not perfect) are trying to convey the bombastic energy of each fight, perhaps even moreso than Marvel 3 (lots of yelling/snarling; more visceral emotion, whereas 3 was more subdued). However, it comes off as somewhat hokey when paired with the game’s underwhelming OST (Jedah Dohma, Morrigan, Strider, Captain Marvel, and Rocket’s themes are pretty good though) and hit sound effects. The latter I feel is a lot more pressing since half the time it sounds oddly “clunky” than satisfying or impactful, if that makes sense. There’s a mod out there that replaces the hit sounds with classic SFX, and I feel that made things better.
That's actually a popular misconception. The only Marvel stuff Disney have any real direct involvement in is the movies, they tend to be pretty hands off (or more accurately ignore and leave to rot) everything else.
Nope. It was all 100% Marvel on the business side. When it comes to the MVC series, Marvel also has really strict rules on how Capcom depicts their characters, like Dr. Strange in MvC3. MVCI is kind of fascinating because I think it symbolizes everything wrong with both Marvel and Capcom at the time. Capcom had a tarnished reputation and RE7 was just released prior that year which wound up saving the company. Marvel was pouring everything into promoting the films while virtually disregarding everything else. Sure, Disney didn’t own the X-Men or FF on the Hollywood side of things but Marvel still held executive control over every other element and they decided to blow them off.
@@Azure029 I think it might be less Marvel trying to promote the MCU and more them trying to leach off it. Marvel had been failing in a lot of ways prior to that point and thus thought the way to right the ship was to cash in on the MCU.
honestly the capcom side of the roster isnt much better. monster hunter is interesting i guess, but mvc2 had characters like tron bonne , bb hood, hayato, and roll. mvci's capcom side is almost entirely the most boring "guy on the front of the box" picks from every series. megaman is exclusively x series characters (and maybe this is just me, but is anyone really that into Sigma?) street fighter somehow only has two characters and it's ryu and chun. akuma isn't in the game! akuma! that's like, the bare minimum lol. resident evil is chris and nemesis? chris?? i get he's from the first game but he's gotta be like, the third most popular RE protag at best, and nemesis is Nothing. not to mention spencer from the crap reboot of bionic commando, who manages to look like they spent 40 seconds adding accessories to frank west's model somehow. disney absolutely had a big hand in making this game as frustrating as it was, but people often gloss over the completely peanut-brained decisions capcom made on their own. frankly if marvel is going to continue to be this tied up in red tape, i'd way rather see a new Capcom vs SNK than another mvc
If you've watched pre-release videos, Disney Marvel won't allow to see their beloved comic heroes can't get hurt but to see them superior than Capcom's characters.
I think one overlooked detail I really like about MVC: Infinite is the greater focus on “teamwork” compared to the previous games. Characters actually interact with each other when certain pairings are picked on the character selection screen, and your partner will actually call out from off-screen (playing in the left/right audio channels as if they’re next to you) and express concern when you hit 25% HP or lower (“DANGER!”). Stuff like that might not seem like much in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something I really appreciate about this game for what it’s worth. Despite its shortcomings, Infinite will always hold a very special place in my heart.
@artofajax7199 They call out from offscreen in Ultimate as well. The only TRUE pairing that I know of is Captain America and Winter Soldier. It's a fucking tragedy they're the only duo with a unique level 3.
@@djhero0071I agree, that was a cool thing that they should’ve explored more, given how the campaign promoted a lot of unique pairings. Also by “calling from offscreen” in 3, are you referring to tag out/tag in? Looking back at footage from that game, there are no specific voice-lines from your teammates that play upon reaching low HP. I feel Infinite was the first to do that.
the biggest thing that screwed over MvCI was honest to god just it's visuals if it had looked half as clean as the relatively close releasing DBFZ it would've proabally boosted it's sales
@joutakujo2366 the fact that the dumb motherfuckers didn't just delay it to give it more polish AND have it closer to Infinity War's release shows they had no idea how bad they were fucking up.
@@djhero0071 Delaying Infinite to have release closer to Avengers: Infinity War definitely would’ve helped its chances with the casual crowd and provide some extra polish, though by that point it would’ve released AFTER DBFZ alongside SFV’s big Arcade Edition update. It’s hard to say how well it’d perform given the competition at that point.
@artofajax7199 I honestly feel MvC and street fighter target different audiences. Sure, they have overlap but they're distinct enough I think that it wouldn't be much of a problem. That and a lot of folks were probably still sour about SFV.
It's crazy thinking about how long it's been already. They let us play as Jehda and that alone made me check it out. I wasn't blown away but was happy that it wasn't just mvc3 but with infinity stones.
It wasn't a superhero fatigue, it was a garbage movie fatigue. They knew what they were doing when they mcu'd the roster and retconned Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in the comics. A good roster can recover the backlash of a bad story and ugly looks. Even Street Figher V recovered eventually with the dlc and arcade mode.
with the game coming out in 2017 i don't think you can use superhero fatigue or even garbage movie fatigue as a reason for this game, that stuff came later and by the time MCU was in a bad state this game was basically left untouched with no further updates. simply put MCU in 2017-1018 was at it's peak and every other medium was forced to imitate but not actually being MCU and the same issues applied in animation as well as games and most of that content that came out at this time have not aged well, MVCI at least plays well. funny enough when the mcu took a nosedive all other content outside of MCU actually got better and were able to do their own thing and not do an MCU imitation like Midnight Sun's and a few others and even stuff that's yet to come out now.
@@k0metz590 yeah I would imagine it basically being marvel’s avengers with overwatch gameplay not only there would be no x-men or fantastic four any obscure picks like Jeff and luna snow would have zilch chances
It’s interesting how MvCI, SxT, and BBTAG are all 2v2 games, 2 of which with active tag, that fell flat with audiences. It’s a shame considering how cool active tag is that it hasn’t appeared in a generally beloved game.
It’s probably because they all had some kind of issue with general audiences. MvCI bad the aforementioned graphics and lackluster story, X Tekken had a terrible monetization system and was generally considered bad until 2013, and Cross Tag had nonsensical balance and obviously wasn’t meant to appeal to fans of the the three fighting games originally represented. MVC1 was very popular during its time and that game was 2v2. Tatsunoko vs Capcom had a nice following as well
For me, it’s the lackluster characters on the capcom side - my favorite part of MvC has been how it took non-fighting characters and put them in a fighting game, or just had more wacky characters all around.
But it also included a massive roster of characters with a banger soundtrack. Being taken directly out of MvC3 and losing the heavy borders did them zero favors.
I was reminiscing the MvC franchise earlier today (about 1-2 hours before this was posted) so this video was dropped right on time. Here's hoping that one day, in spite of everything, we'll see a proper MvC4.
I can't lie, I still mess with this from time to time. It is a guilty pleasure. One can only hope in the near future that this franchise gets revived. I think plenty of time has passed and Hopefully lessons have been learned.
@@Mr.Drew70They obviously didn’t do that if people are complaining about X men not being in it? The only person simping for anything is you for this(in comparison with the other mvcs) laugably bad sequel. Hypocrite 🙄
Worst part of MvCI is that its a damn fun game, trapped in an ugly, low budget, and limited scope release that was forced on them by corporate mandates. Disney pretty much burned the bridge of working with Capcom again for VS titles; so here's hoping we can get some other Capcom VS whatever to fill the hole in our hearts. Or, just play the fan mods of MvC3. Either or works, I guess.
8:15 Bruh, there was no "licensing issues". Marvel, and by extension Disney, alaways had the rights to X-Men and Fantastic Four, it's only the movie rights they didn't have. All this was is Disney wanting to devalue the series by not giving them exposure. They could've made an X-Men vs FF game if they wanted. They had both teams in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 no problem.
There were movie licensing issues. The issues being at the time Marvel/Disney didn't have them! Also didn't UA3 come out after the announcement of the buying of fox?
And since Disney bought Fox and do Xmen justice (specially Cyclops) with Xmen 97, as well as they're came back in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, Midnight Suns, and upcoming game Marvel Rival, hope there'll be real MvC4 soon after they release the rests of their upcoming Capcom games
MVCI failed for the same reason SFIII did, Capcom removed all the popular characters alienating the audience. You can't make a sequel to a game, reset all the characters and expect success. Those past characters are the foundation on why the franchise is popular.
I distinctly remember that around the release for MvCI, there was a lot of people choosing between DBFZ and this game because they were releasing close to each either and both were tram fighters
I will never forgive them for Doctor Strange level 3. He is not supposed to fly around the opponent like a floaty pervert trying to glance up a skirt. He sends an astral form out to bind the person. This game was all parts and no soul.
Another thing that I dislike about both Marvel Infinite and even Marvel 2 is the lack of character endings. While 3’s endings had their own issues, having unique endings for every character is a fantastic way to get you to play with other characters and experiment with them. You can have over 10-100 characters in your roster, and the lack of any endings, will kill any incentive for me to continue playing after the first arcade run.
We all know the reason behind the ‘characters are their mechanics, not their looks or story’ thing was the best explanation the director could give without pissing off the higher ups. But one thing, if this was made to ‘advertise’ the mcu more, why not just make the characters MCU? Obviously different voices cause of money, but wouldn’t it have made more sense for this to have become an MCU game?
See, there's a problem with that line of logic: the entire point of the MvC flare they had going on was that there's Marvel throwing hands with Capcom. Had they went with the MCU route, game would have been in dire straits day 1, especially after people learn it's a MvC game and not a standalone fighting game like DC's Injustice.
Marvel may be heavily promoting X-Men and Fantastic Four now, but the damage they did back then will always be remembered Their poor decisions potentially killed an entire series
To the X-Men, this was the “lost decade”, when Marvel was pushing the Inhumans all over the place and the FF getting largely forgotten after Secret Wars 2015 in favour of promoting the MCU. It would be easy to blame Disney, but Marvel still had full control of their characters outside of Hollywood. They also have a lot of mandates when it comes to Capcom’s treatment of their characters which is really strict.
No matter how much Disney tries putting the Mutants back in the spotlight, I will never, EVER forgive them for killing my beautiful son MvC. At least there's still hope for CvS3... (I think we all know where this is going)
Getting another Marvel vs Capcom game is difficult because Disney, the only thing Capcom can do is Capcom vs Snk 3. Oh yeah, it looks like Capcom could just make a crossover fighting game specifically for Megaman. Maybe because after seeing "vs Capcom" gameplay involving Megaman characters, I was confused about which candidate was suitable to be playable.
and don't forget Doctor Strange. shame the Iron Fist series was a flop and the pre-MCU Ghost Rider movies were considered such failures they're not bringing him back even after all the multiverse crap they're doing now. People who don't read comics gotta know who tf Blackheart (and Mephisto) actually is 30+ years after MvC ya knawmsayin
Much like how ‘Street Fighter X Tekken’ had 12 fighters that were already finished when the game launched, but were left as on-disk DLC. But unlike ‘MvC:I’, 5 of the 12 fighters were already available in the previous game (Super Street Fighter IV) for free.
Such a shame that one of the most fun and refreshing entries in the series got saddled with everything it did. Honestly, a better roster would've done so much for this game alone.
The roster was one of the least of the problems with the game, outside of the lack of mutants the roster got some really good additions. The gameplay is ass, the visuals are ass, the soundtrack is elevator music, and the voice acting is awful. Going 2v2 from 3v3 also was a huge step back
X is honestly the Capcom character I've had the most fun as in any CapVS title, and I really hope he returns in Jump/Sega/whoever vs Capcom... but that's probably a pipe dream
If it’s Nick vs Capcom were more likely to get Classic, but something like CvS3 on the other hand… I think EVERY version of Mega Man should get in as an apology for having none in 1 & 2.
@@austinreed7343The NvC roster I'm building uses EXE as the playable Mega Man incarnation. The second I learn how to edit I'm gonna make a Build the Roster-esque deep-dive into my plans for it.
I know many people hate this game but from an outside looking in perspective it looks really fucking fun. If I were to ever get into MvC I’d probably start with this game
Look the greatness of mvc1. Then look at how they followed it up with greatness mvc2. They went backwards or with umvc3. And infinite is a slap in the face from what it was.
Looking back at this now, I think that in my opinion It looks fun. Controversy and bad publicity aside, I wouldn't mind diving into this game when given the opportunity.
My biggest problem with this game is none of the marvel characters I use are in the game such as Logan , magento, Deadpool , Storm , Jean grey and Laura Kinney .
Whether it be Capcom or Marvel's interference, the coffin was sealed for this game when their approach to marketing for new players was to have the Fine Bros do a "Teens React" video for the game. Yes, this really happened.
Marvel vs Capcom has always been a series that’s had an over-the-top presentation to celebrate the union of these two prominent properties. The decisions involving Infinite’s development made it suffer and result in something that did not match this high standard. Infinite is not a _bad_ game. But it’s not the blockbuster the other entries were either. As a result, this is the only MvC game that’s average at best.
That's what I've been saying. Sucks to see a near-universally-beloved franchise may have been killed off for good just because of one single less-than-ideal game. Just like the Joker said, it only takes one bad "day" (game) to drive a "man" (series) to madness.
This makes me kinda sad, as a kid I always wanted to use x as a fighting game character and then this game released and I was very hyped but I didn't enjoyed the game that much
They might have used the MvC3 models for MvCI as a base, but the MvCI models are clearly different with a much higher polygon count than MvC3 (the models were ripped by fans, and can be downloaded for free and analyzed in a model viewer like Blender)
This is my favorite MVC in the seris from. GAMEPLAY standpoint...it played so damn smooth.. the roster was definitely lacking though but it wasn't enough too stop me from playing
last line of the vid sums it up perfectly LOL i copped the game with a mate years after release when it was on sale for like 3 bucks and we had a lot of fun with it, probably the best $3 ive ever spent
My last book, Rubber Girl was published in 2017. So, I've been writing Fairy Girl for 7 years now. When am I going to finish this book? Rubber Girl came the same year as Toon Girl. And Toon Girl only came a year after The Flying Boy. This is ridiculous. Why is my fourth book so long?
hey as one of the best player who still play it i like this vid. Its ashame what happened to this game, dbfz, the memes etc but at core its a good and fun game just needed more love and time which people realize now!! Hope to get a new marvel one day and not have issues that seem to happen on marvels end as usual smh
I could say that it is one of the reasons. The X-Men, alongside the Street Fighters started the Marvel vs. Capcom crossover known as X-Men vs Street Fighter.
I feel like Capcom has eyes only on street fighter, meanwhile arcsys has been developing like 3 to 4 franchises(the style are very similar, ok) but this is sad
I could see one of two things 1. SF’s crossover scope goes from KoF level to NGBC level, everything but RE and Monster Hunter is incorporated into SF. 2. Capcom licenses their characters to other developers and publishers.
The way I see it they're just gonna keep milking SF until the day they go bankrupt. Guest appearances are all we're ever getting. It was fun while it lasted, I guess. I'm simultaneously crying because it's over and smiling because it happened...
u start the video by saying ur not gonna waste time telling us things we already know, im 2 minutes in and all youve done is explain things we already know
man, this during the time of Project X ZONE 1 and 2 and THOSE GAMES WHERE SUPER GREAT with the story and characters meeting it was more of a fun thing then a super serious thing like idk madoka magica lol but you get the point
I rented umvc3 from blockbuster convinced all my friends to get it and we had a blast my team was x23 wesker and skrull I didnt know who x23 or super skrull was and looked up comics they were in and they are in soft spot in my heart, venom and black panther were cool but I wish they picked more obscure characters😅
The game had over 1 million sales... that should have told Capcom and Marvel something... We wanted the game... It was a good game... but shady business practices are what killed it on arrival. Also, I honestly believe Capcom messed up when they created 3 v 3 gameplay... it was nice that MVCI came back to the game's roots. If anything, if we ever get another MvC game, they should, and I am sure can easily, incorporate both 3v3 and 2v2 gameplay... If a player picks 3v3, they don't get active switch... and if they pick 2v2, they get active switch...
This was my first Marvel and I really enjoyed it. I wish the budget had been spent on dev instead of the stupid story though - when those end credits role its like 90% the story studio 10% game devs :D :D
For me, this game was dead the minute Arc Sys revealed Dragon Ball Fighterz. Sure, with more time MVCI could've been better, but there was no way it was standing toe to toe with a fighting game based on an anime everyone and their grandma has seen.
I feel like something overlooked is that Anime fighters don't have a good reputation. Like, before Dragon Ball Fighterz, Dragon Ball games had a reputation for being lousy aside from some dated and niche 90s titles, and the arena-styled Anime fighters to this day don't get a lot of respect. Fighterz is kind of an outlier, and it got a lot of publicity because "it's a fighting game based on an Anime that's ACTUALLY GOOD," as well as the memes about how it's so much better than MvC:I. I mean, remember how quickly Jump Force crashed after all the hype surrounding that game? I think that people thought that Fighterz would have suffered a similar fate, fans of the series liking it, FGC rejecting it.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917The memes hard carried FighterZ if you asked me, it is definitely a solid game based on the license but people treated it like the first decent competitive anime or Dragon Ball game and definitely ignored shortcomings in how the roster was homogenous since it looked nice and was 3 vs 3. I saw something a bit similar with people acting like Batman and Spidey only got great games recently (not many people but enough to note). Dragon Ball had good games in the 00s for fighting from Infinite World/Shin Budokai to Super DBZ to even Budokai Tenkachi 2 if you actually get into the movement. I grant that not every character would be very viable but coming off Marvel which didn't even give all characters Level 3s, it doesn't mean as much. Naruto had the Clash of Ninja series which was competitively sound if Storm isn't your thing. Bleach had 7 Heat the Souls games and Blade of Fate. Fate had FUC. There have been decent platform fighters like One Piece Gigant Battle and Jump Superstars. Even arena fighters could be pretty good from Zoids Wild Blast Unleashed to Gundam Vs which is just as old. Jump Force and some other titles definitely gave arena fighters a bad name, but we had options. FighterZ is just the only modern one which popped off and from what I can tell, Storm may not be as shallow as I think though I'm not expecting it to become the next Sonic the Fighters of misunderstood games.
MvCi is such a tragic end to this fantastic crossover series, ruined by the dunderheaded disney manegement, Taking away comic style,the music, Ui & the X men (even though they had the rights! Fox only had the movie rights) the game does have its bright spots, the gameplay can get wild with the tagging + stones & the rollback netcode is smooth , But it was doomed from the start. Thanx for the revisit Khanage, hope it returns ( but meanwhile, we got great mods for mvc3)
Jedah, black panther and monster hunter are playable. Venom came back, not to mention X and Sigma, that’s kinda cool. I liked the roster after the initial shock.
What people need to understand is, the X-men and Fantastic Four CAN be used in video games without worry. Marvel sold the MOVIE rights to those franchises to other companies back in the 90s, but video games, they are all still allowed to appear in because the rights to use them in games are still in Disneys hands. Best example, Marvels Contest Of Champions, yes it’s a mobile game but still a video game. And as other UA-camrs pointed out, this game was data mined and the X-men were going to be in the game. Marvel just wanted to focus on MCU characters at the time, obviously a poor choice.
I like MvCI, but you can tell from what we're looking at it was a shoestring budget, the Marvel side has more new characters than rehash and better models to please their partners. If it ever comes back i would love to have this gameplay back, its probably the most fun and experimental gameplay they've ever done. But in my opinion i hope Disney somehow looses the Marvel license, it woule be so much better without them. Cause around the same year. Marvels Ultimate Alliance 3 was announced and that has MCU plus a dozen others that Capcom used and referenced before. Including voice actors who were in UMVC3 and not on infinite. Such a strange favoritism.
I picked up Mvci this week during the steam summer sale due to Max’s big mod pack they are working on. Hoping it gets finished but honestly as Mvc casual compared to other fighters I love. I think the game has been fairly enjoyable but I can see why it didn’t take off like previous entries in the series.
Since this game runs on Unreal Engine, I'm surprised it didn't even get mods taken or inspired by other games that run on the engine. Not even a single Fortnite Stage mod... Heck, I want a Ripto's Arena or Just Beachy stage mod as well.
The fact budget and time were the main problems... If they had waited until after endgame, the RE engine would be in use for the character models, disney would have access to the xmen characters by that point, and capcom would have time to remake the models in the new graphical system. The fact most of the ideas and gameplay for the game work just fine but the presentation is so atrocious because its rushed when it could have been like, the most successful game, ever.
With marvel now having the rights to the x men and us getting a Deadpool and wolverine movie on top of that street fighter 6 is a large improvement over 5 I think the future is bright for marvel vs capcom and with the series recent popularity I think we will see a new game in 3 years tops
No. with how marvel operating and handling business today I wouldn't want a new MVC, because it's a guarantee they will push their woke ideology into the the game. Surely We will get iron heart instead of iron man, the new female black panther, madame web instead of spider man, Jane foster Thor instead of thor and many other.
@@sgnitzlennahv Then the Capcom side will have to make up for it (and to be fair, the Jane Foster Thor is dead, the female Black Panther retired, Madame Web has nothing to do with the MCU...), making it more like a Capcom All-Stars or CvS3, without a guaranteed lifeline.
I am now playing this game. This is the Marvel vs Capcom game that was currently under $100 as of 2023. I appreciate the buffs that the infinite stones gave to the characters. My most favorite stones are power stone and time stone. However, I do not like how uneven the roster is… Let’s say that X-Men we’re still not able to make it. I’m ok with the roster EXCEPT THAT…. 1. Rocket Raccoon should be replaced with The Punisher or Daredevil. 2. Replace Winter Soldier for a Capcom character such as Gill, Asura, or Akuma.
another issue was that DBFZ came out like two months later, and had way more hype and ended up basically filling the MVC void much better than this game did.
For the short roster complains, for what it was rumored, this game was supposed to be the largest in the series in roster aspects, it starts with 30 characters but it would eventually end up with 61(the plus one being a playable version of ultron sigma), not a bad number if we think that mvsc3 had 36 and ended up with 50, mvsc2 had 56 but you can tell that most of these characters were directly imported from early games(cable and marrow were the only in fact new characters in mvsc2's marvel roster) and this is something that could had been viable, just like sfv started with 16 characters and ended with 45, being until date the largest sf But still, it is a shame that they really focused on mcu instead of the part of marvel that was really appealing in the franchise
the fact that you can enter an MVCI tournament nowadays and get a guaranteed top 8 placing (even when going 0-4) will always be funny to me
By all means, join The Gauntlet weekly online event and watch as you do not place top 8.
@@ErebusWolf I think the joke is that only 8 people are playing the game at any given time, but go off I guess.
@@weegeequeviucoisas9854 Yeah I know that's the joke. And as a person still active in the competitive community, I am dismissing it. Because, while it is a small community, we have multiple online weeklies, and people still keeping the game going.
@@ErebusWolf I'm in the OCE bro, I would join in the gauntlet if I could lmao. locals here only get 3 players at their tourneys.
The game is fun but it's dead here
@@mackyeroelink9623 I know there are a few good Aus and NZ players. They may not be at your locals but if you look into the community you can find them online.
I could’ve sworn this game came out 3-5 years ago, wow now I feel old
bro same lmao
That’s how I feel about Sonic Forces too. Disappointing mediocrity dies very fast in the public mind.
The pandemic stole time from us
Because of the pandemic the past 3 years or so have kinda blended into each other thats why
Don't worry. It only gets worse as you get older.
"MvCI doesn't need a formal intro" *Proceeds immediately into a formal intro*
From my understanding it wasn’t licensing issues that kept X-Men fantastic four from Marvel. It was just the fact that Marvel didn’t own the movie rights to the characters at the time so they didn’t want to promote characters that they couldn’t put on film. That’s why Marvel wasn’t really doing a lot with those characters in the comics as well.
Yeah, that was around the time where Marvel had canceled the Fantastic Four ongoing and were downplaying the X-Men to prop up the Inhumans. It... wasn't a great time to be a fan of non MCU characters.
Guardians of the Galaxy is just X-Men in Space.
@@DJmouchi777 Marvel not promoting the The Fantastic Four is nuts when you consider what they mean mean to Marvel or at least what they SHOULD mean
O jogo servia mais de propaganda para o MCU, por isso os persongens tem visuais equivalentes ao dos filmes, os únicos que nem estão nesse universo é o Nova, Motoqueiro Fantasma e o Venom, apesar dele ser "canônico" por causa do SMNWH, e isso não se aplica apenas nesse jogo, todo produto da Marvel que não fossem os quadrinhos, tinham alguma ou várias características para se parecer com o MCU, já perdi as contas de quantas vezes tinham referências ou visuais idênticos ao dos filmes, fora também a exclusão dos X-Men e Quarteto Fantástico nos desenhos da Marvel quando eram feitos pela finada Marvel Television
@@DJmouchi777and I blame Ike Pearlmutter so much for that bullcrap. Thank god he’s not part of Disney anymore.
MvCI commited a grave sin for a capcom vs game - having a forgettable soundtrack
In general, I feel Infinite’s sound design is all over the place and is never really consistent.
A lot of the vocal performances of the characters (even if they’re not perfect) are trying to convey the bombastic energy of each fight, perhaps even moreso than Marvel 3 (lots of yelling/snarling; more visceral emotion, whereas 3 was more subdued).
However, it comes off as somewhat hokey when paired with the game’s underwhelming OST (Jedah Dohma, Morrigan, Strider, Captain Marvel, and Rocket’s themes are pretty good though) and hit sound effects. The latter I feel is a lot more pressing since half the time it sounds oddly “clunky” than satisfying or impactful, if that makes sense.
There’s a mod out there that replaces the hit sounds with classic SFX, and I feel that made things better.
There are like three memorable songs.
Yeah mvci ost suck
@@Protosilver97and they’re all Capcom. The only ones I remember are the themes for the Mega Man characters and maybe Arthur.
The grave sin they committed is having no X-Men characters in the game.
Disney is so scummy for opting out the Xmen for this game. Those guys were the root of this series.
That's actually a popular misconception. The only Marvel stuff Disney have any real direct involvement in is the movies, they tend to be pretty hands off (or more accurately ignore and leave to rot) everything else.
Nope. It was all 100% Marvel on the business side. When it comes to the MVC series, Marvel also has really strict rules on how Capcom depicts their characters, like Dr. Strange in MvC3.
MVCI is kind of fascinating because I think it symbolizes everything wrong with both Marvel and Capcom at the time. Capcom had a tarnished reputation and RE7 was just released prior that year which wound up saving the company. Marvel was pouring everything into promoting the films while virtually disregarding everything else. Sure, Disney didn’t own the X-Men or FF on the Hollywood side of things but Marvel still held executive control over every other element and they decided to blow them off.
@@Azure029 Unless your working their and have hard evidence, you cannot speak in absolutes . WE DONT KNOW
@@Azure029 I think it might be less Marvel trying to promote the MCU and more them trying to leach off it. Marvel had been failing in a lot of ways prior to that point and thus thought the way to right the ship was to cash in on the MCU.
honestly the capcom side of the roster isnt much better. monster hunter is interesting i guess, but mvc2 had characters like tron bonne , bb hood, hayato, and roll. mvci's capcom side is almost entirely the most boring "guy on the front of the box" picks from every series. megaman is exclusively x series characters (and maybe this is just me, but is anyone really that into Sigma?) street fighter somehow only has two characters and it's ryu and chun. akuma isn't in the game! akuma! that's like, the bare minimum lol. resident evil is chris and nemesis? chris?? i get he's from the first game but he's gotta be like, the third most popular RE protag at best, and nemesis is Nothing. not to mention spencer from the crap reboot of bionic commando, who manages to look like they spent 40 seconds adding accessories to frank west's model somehow. disney absolutely had a big hand in making this game as frustrating as it was, but people often gloss over the completely peanut-brained decisions capcom made on their own. frankly if marvel is going to continue to be this tied up in red tape, i'd way rather see a new Capcom vs SNK than another mvc
It's been longer between MVCi and now than mvc3 and mvci
holy shit i'm getting old
Wow that’s crazy
Sign of the end
Jesus
MvC proper still has (false?) hope, though something like a CvS reboot is still more likely.
If you've watched pre-release videos, Disney Marvel won't allow to see their beloved comic heroes can't get hurt but to see them superior than Capcom's characters.
What I need is a new Tatsunoko Vs Capcom. Dear lord that game was INCREDIBLE.
HELL YEAH
Absolutely.
Elena (Street Fighter III: New Generation) and Hiyoko Isshuu (The Song of Tentomushi) would’ve been my dream team.
I’d prefer a new Capcom Vs. SNK game
@@zaneheaston8254 Same
@@zaneheaston8254 I'll take either or.
I think one overlooked detail I really like about MVC: Infinite is the greater focus on “teamwork” compared to the previous games.
Characters actually interact with each other when certain pairings are picked on the character selection screen, and your partner will actually call out from off-screen (playing in the left/right audio channels as if they’re next to you) and express concern when you hit 25% HP or lower (“DANGER!”).
Stuff like that might not seem like much in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something I really appreciate about this game for what it’s worth. Despite its shortcomings, Infinite will always hold a very special place in my heart.
@artofajax7199 They call out from offscreen in Ultimate as well. The only TRUE pairing that I know of is Captain America and Winter Soldier. It's a fucking tragedy they're the only duo with a unique level 3.
@@djhero0071I agree, that was a cool thing that they should’ve explored more, given how the campaign promoted a lot of unique pairings.
Also by “calling from offscreen” in 3, are you referring to tag out/tag in? Looking back at footage from that game, there are no specific voice-lines from your teammates that play upon reaching low HP. I feel Infinite was the first to do that.
@@artofajax7199 you are correct.
DC vs Marvel game will cure this game, and "mortal kombat 1"..
@@djhero0071 ikr other characters should have had this like Ryu and Chun li and Zero and X
UMvC3 Ironman: PROTON CANNON!
MvCI Ironman: proton cannon
LOL!
Nowadays they’d have to give the crazy gun super to like Marco or someone.
His pronunciation of it in the original Marvel Heroes (the sequel to X-men Children of the Atom) is by far the best.
whats crazy aobut this is both are voiced by the same actor
the biggest thing that screwed over MvCI was honest to god just it's visuals if it had looked half as clean as the relatively close releasing DBFZ it would've proabally boosted it's sales
@joutakujo2366 the fact that the dumb motherfuckers didn't just delay it to give it more polish AND have it closer to Infinity War's release shows they had no idea how bad they were fucking up.
@@djhero0071 Delaying Infinite to have release closer to Avengers: Infinity War definitely would’ve helped its chances with the casual crowd and provide some extra polish, though by that point it would’ve released AFTER DBFZ alongside SFV’s big Arcade Edition update. It’s hard to say how well it’d perform given the competition at that point.
I honestly feel like the roster/gem system ruined it more imo
The roster, gameplay and mechanics definitely ruined it more
@artofajax7199 I honestly feel MvC and street fighter target different audiences. Sure, they have overlap but they're distinct enough I think that it wouldn't be much of a problem. That and a lot of folks were probably still sour about SFV.
It's crazy thinking about how long it's been already. They let us play as Jehda and that alone made me check it out. I wasn't blown away but was happy that it wasn't just mvc3 but with infinity stones.
Sadly, Jedah was stuffed in the wrong game. Imagine Jedah in UMvC3.....
It wasn't a superhero fatigue, it was a garbage movie fatigue. They knew what they were doing when they mcu'd the roster and retconned Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in the comics. A good roster can recover the backlash of a bad story and ugly looks. Even Street Figher V recovered eventually with the dlc and arcade mode.
Yeah! Shame they dropped its support unlike SF5
with the game coming out in 2017 i don't think you can use superhero fatigue or even garbage movie fatigue as a reason for this game, that stuff came later and by the time MCU was in a bad state this game was basically left untouched with no further updates. simply put MCU in 2017-1018 was at it's peak and every other medium was forced to imitate but not actually being MCU and the same issues applied in animation as well as games and most of that content that came out at this time have not aged well, MVCI at least plays well. funny enough when the mcu took a nosedive all other content outside of MCU actually got better and were able to do their own thing and not do an MCU imitation like Midnight Sun's and a few others and even stuff that's yet to come out now.
@@nightwish1453 yeah, imagine if Marvel Rivals came out in 2017
@@k0metz590 yeah I would imagine it basically being marvel’s avengers with overwatch gameplay not only there would be no x-men or fantastic four any obscure picks like Jeff and luna snow would have zilch chances
Has it REALLY been 7+ years!!!??? My goodness!!!
It’s interesting how MvCI, SxT, and BBTAG are all 2v2 games, 2 of which with active tag, that fell flat with audiences. It’s a shame considering how cool active tag is that it hasn’t appeared in a generally beloved game.
Fighterz is 3 v 3 not 2 v 2@@JoeRangles
@@JoeRangles Neither of those games have active tag though
BBTAG is great, my only gripe with that Musou is it's character select
It’s probably because they all had some kind of issue with general audiences. MvCI bad the aforementioned graphics and lackluster story, X Tekken had a terrible monetization system and was generally considered bad until 2013, and Cross Tag had nonsensical balance and obviously wasn’t meant to appeal to fans of the the three fighting games originally represented. MVC1 was very popular during its time and that game was 2v2. Tatsunoko vs Capcom had a nice following as well
@@JoeRanglesmk1 is a flop
Jedah was the coolest thing about MVCI
And Sigma.
@@EdnaKonrad4MVS I loved Thanos
Ironic the best part of the game are the villains
Jedah,sigma,thanos and Venom are the most interesting characters in mvci imo
@@13thKingMu palm breaker!
And Venom
For me, it’s the lackluster characters on the capcom side - my favorite part of MvC has been how it took non-fighting characters and put them in a fighting game, or just had more wacky characters all around.
thats why phoenix wright was hype af
@@FFFreak719 not having Amaterasu or Phoenix wright made me completely pass on the game
Now I guess they’ll have to force wackiness into a CvS game.
Now I guess they’ll have to force wackiness into a CvS game, which will piss of the people who like those games as “grounded” affairs.
To be fair the last time capcom released a 2p2k game that was an asset flip it was mvc2 and a huge success
But it also included a massive roster of characters with a banger soundtrack. Being taken directly out of MvC3 and losing the heavy borders did them zero favors.
mvc2 was 3v3
@@NoelStalker2 punch 2 kick
I was reminiscing the MvC franchise earlier today (about 1-2 hours before this was posted) so this video was dropped right on time. Here's hoping that one day, in spite of everything, we'll see a proper MvC4.
I can't lie, I still mess with this from time to time. It is a guilty pleasure. One can only hope in the near future that this franchise gets revived. I think plenty of time has passed and Hopefully lessons have been learned.
The lack of X-Men characters is what killed this game for me
Same, Wolverine is my favorite X-Men character and I main him in every VS games. No Wolverine, No Buy.
Sucks to be you. Anyway this game is amazing
Exactly they should have keep all the characters from previous MVC games and just added new characters.
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They literally just did that. You were too busy simping for the x men
@@Mr.Drew70They obviously didn’t do that if people are complaining about X men not being in it? The only person simping for anything is you for this(in comparison with the other mvcs) laugably bad sequel. Hypocrite 🙄
Worst part of MvCI is that its a damn fun game, trapped in an ugly, low budget, and limited scope release that was forced on them by corporate mandates. Disney pretty much burned the bridge of working with Capcom again for VS titles; so here's hoping we can get some other Capcom VS whatever to fill the hole in our hearts.
Or, just play the fan mods of MvC3. Either or works, I guess.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN'!
@@Jsslade With Max and Ryn doing the visual overhaul mod; I'm excited to see people give the game another go on PC at least.
@@pockystyx4087 What are your thoughts on the upcoming Marvel vs. Capcom compilation?
@@RigbyD-d1v excited for sure, especially after impressions were good. Grabbing a physical copy asap in case another VS dark age happens lol
@@pockystyx4087 Cool!
8:15 Bruh, there was no "licensing issues". Marvel, and by extension Disney, alaways had the rights to X-Men and Fantastic Four, it's only the movie rights they didn't have. All this was is Disney wanting to devalue the series by not giving them exposure. They could've made an X-Men vs FF game if they wanted. They had both teams in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 no problem.
every character that disney doesn't have the distribution rights to were not include in the MVCI ROSTER
There were movie licensing issues. The issues being at the time Marvel/Disney didn't have them!
Also didn't UA3 come out after the announcement of the buying of fox?
And since Disney bought Fox and do Xmen justice (specially Cyclops) with Xmen 97, as well as they're came back in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, Midnight Suns, and upcoming game Marvel Rival, hope there'll be real MvC4 soon after they release the rests of their upcoming Capcom games
@@ektran4205but why wasn’t modok in mvci
MVCI failed for the same reason SFIII did, Capcom removed all the popular characters alienating the audience. You can't make a sequel to a game, reset all the characters and expect success. Those past characters are the foundation on why the franchise is popular.
Don't get me wrong SF3 is one of my all-time favorite games but this comment sums up my one complaint with it easily.
At least sf3 was good
@@rush99it took them 3 tries to make it good lol, vanilla is pretty bad
@@rush99
MvCI is a brilliant fighter. As vonVile said, it just didn't sell well b/c they deleted most of the characters people wanted to play as.
@@rush99 Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite is incredible to play
I distinctly remember that around the release for MvCI, there was a lot of people choosing between DBFZ and this game because they were releasing close to each either and both were tram fighters
I will never forgive them for Doctor Strange level 3. He is not supposed to fly around the opponent like a floaty pervert trying to glance up a skirt. He sends an astral form out to bind the person. This game was all parts and no soul.
Ghost Rider's Lv. 3 is much worse. He is just staring at you and done. At least in Ultimate MvC 3, you can see what the Penance Stare can do..
@@jettskie1986 Absolutely!
As one of Infinite’s biggest defenders…
*Yeah, that was pretty weird.*
@jadedj5385 not sure what you're trying to say doctor strange comment
holy cow on the barn, it has been 7 years have pass all ready? wow...time fly when you don't pay any attention of any kind to stuff like that.
Another thing that I dislike about both Marvel Infinite and even Marvel 2 is the lack of character endings. While 3’s endings had their own issues, having unique endings for every character is a fantastic way to get you to play with other characters and experiment with them. You can have over 10-100 characters in your roster, and the lack of any endings, will kill any incentive for me to continue playing after the first arcade run.
We all know the reason behind the ‘characters are their mechanics, not their looks or story’ thing was the best explanation the director could give without pissing off the higher ups.
But one thing, if this was made to ‘advertise’ the mcu more, why not just make the characters MCU? Obviously different voices cause of money, but wouldn’t it have made more sense for this to have become an MCU game?
See, there's a problem with that line of logic: the entire point of the MvC flare they had going on was that there's Marvel throwing hands with Capcom. Had they went with the MCU route, game would have been in dire straits day 1, especially after people learn it's a MvC game and not a standalone fighting game like DC's Injustice.
No X-men no sell
No you no caring
@@Mr.Drew70show bussy
Capcom
It’s astonishing how there is at least one thing wrong with each of the characters’ models in this game. It’s kinda funny tbh.
Marvel may be heavily promoting X-Men and Fantastic Four now, but the damage they did back then will always be remembered
Their poor decisions potentially killed an entire series
To the X-Men, this was the “lost decade”, when Marvel was pushing the Inhumans all over the place and the FF getting largely forgotten after Secret Wars 2015 in favour of promoting the MCU. It would be easy to blame Disney, but Marvel still had full control of their characters outside of Hollywood. They also have a lot of mandates when it comes to Capcom’s treatment of their characters which is really strict.
@@Azure029they so dumb trying to always have this brand synergy shit , the mcu isn’t everything and I’m glad they kinda failing rn
No matter how much Disney tries putting the Mutants back in the spotlight, I will never, EVER forgive them for killing my beautiful son MvC. At least there's still hope for CvS3...
(I think we all know where this is going)
You people killed the series for not giving the game a chance. Stop blaming companies for your actions
Super hero fatigue isn’t real , it’s bad movie fatigue
Superhero fatigue is real.
@@interceptingfist5682 it’s not. Ppl wouldn’t of bought Spider-Man 2
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Superhero fatigue will come, but it isn’t here just yet.
Getting another Marvel vs Capcom game is difficult because Disney, the only thing Capcom can do is Capcom vs Snk 3.
Oh yeah, it looks like Capcom could just make a crossover fighting game specifically for Megaman. Maybe because after seeing "vs Capcom" gameplay involving Megaman characters, I was confused about which candidate was suitable to be playable.
Mvc3 still gave us a flash forward to the Disney mcu movies introducing the mainstream to Hawkeye and rocket racoon
and don't forget Doctor Strange. shame the Iron Fist series was a flop and the pre-MCU Ghost Rider movies were considered such failures they're not bringing him back even after all the multiverse crap they're doing now. People who don't read comics gotta know who tf Blackheart (and Mephisto) actually is 30+ years after MvC ya knawmsayin
Those dlc characters were just cut characters they sold as separate dlc because they knew this game was gonna die
Much like how ‘Street Fighter X Tekken’ had 12 fighters that were already finished when the game launched, but were left as on-disk DLC. But unlike ‘MvC:I’, 5 of the 12 fighters were already available in the previous game (Super Street Fighter IV) for free.
Such a shame that one of the most fun and refreshing entries in the series got saddled with everything it did. Honestly, a better roster would've done so much for this game alone.
The roster was one of the least of the problems with the game, outside of the lack of mutants the roster got some really good additions. The gameplay is ass, the visuals are ass, the soundtrack is elevator music, and the voice acting is awful. Going 2v2 from 3v3 also was a huge step back
X is honestly the Capcom character I've had the most fun as in any CapVS title, and I really hope he returns in Jump/Sega/whoever vs Capcom... but that's probably a pipe dream
If it’s Nick vs Capcom were more likely to get Classic, but something like CvS3 on the other hand…
I think EVERY version of Mega Man should get in as an apology for having none in 1 & 2.
@@austinreed7343The NvC roster I'm building uses EXE as the playable Mega Man incarnation. The second I learn how to edit I'm gonna make a Build the Roster-esque deep-dive into my plans for it.
It's not superhero fatigue, it's a quality content problem. There is a reason anime/mamga it's kicking American comics in the US.
Licensing however is much harder. Which is why it would probably be one single franchise/author instead of a whole company.
I know many people hate this game but from an outside looking in perspective it looks really fucking fun. If I were to ever get into MvC I’d probably start with this game
Believe me, it is
The gameplay was barely the issue.
Look the greatness of mvc1. Then look at how they followed it up with greatness mvc2. They went backwards or with umvc3. And infinite is a slap in the face from what it was.
I would kill for a new Capcom Vs. SNK game
Yeah, but if you want gameplay like the old CvS games instead of Marvel gameplay…
Monster Hunter in Wakanda would be a dope crossover. Monster Hunter weapons with vibranium would be cool
Looking back at this now, I think that in my opinion It looks fun. Controversy and bad publicity aside, I wouldn't mind diving into this game when given the opportunity.
My biggest problem with this game is none of the marvel characters I use are in the game such as Logan , magento, Deadpool , Storm , Jean grey and Laura Kinney .
Honestly I enjoyed playing this more than 3 even without phoenix wright.
Whether it be Capcom or Marvel's interference, the coffin was sealed for this game when their approach to marketing for new players was to have the Fine Bros do a "Teens React" video for the game. Yes, this really happened.
LMAO this should have been in the vid!
wait *what*
That right there is what sealed the series' fate. The moment it became too woke for redemption.
@@Jsslade I don't think that's what that word means
@@meyerpictures me neither tbh but im too lazy to edit my comment rn
Marvel vs Capcom has always been a series that’s had an over-the-top presentation to celebrate the union of these two prominent properties. The decisions involving Infinite’s development made it suffer and result in something that did not match this high standard.
Infinite is not a _bad_ game. But it’s not the blockbuster the other entries were either. As a result, this is the only MvC game that’s average at best.
That's what I've been saying. Sucks to see a near-universally-beloved franchise may have been killed off for good just because of one single less-than-ideal game. Just like the Joker said, it only takes one bad "day" (game) to drive a "man" (series) to madness.
Pity that it ended up being the only ‘MvC’ instalment that you could have Jedah team up with Sigma.
@@EdnaKonrad4MVS
Capcom vs SNK 3, if it happens, would likely make characters that powerful strictly unplayable bosses.
Sometimes, a mid game can be worse than a bad game.
7 years i played this game SEVEN YEARS AGO WOW I FEEL OLD DAMN
This is the first game in the Marvel vs. Capcom series that have no X-Men characters.
It’s also the first ‘MvC’ instalment that does not feature Wolverine.
@@EdnaKonrad4MVS Oh, that's true.
And hopefully the only
@@Jsslade What do you mean "hopefully the only"?
This makes me kinda sad, as a kid I always wanted to use x as a fighting game character and then this game released and I was very hyped but I didn't enjoyed the game that much
To me I always felt like the only reason mvc infinite was made, was to promote newer marvel movies. I still stand by this feeling today
They might have used the MvC3 models for MvCI as a base, but the MvCI models are clearly different with a much higher polygon count than MvC3 (the models were ripped by fans, and can be downloaded for free and analyzed in a model viewer like Blender)
This is my favorite MVC in the seris from. GAMEPLAY standpoint...it played so damn smooth.. the roster was definitely lacking though but it wasn't enough too stop me from playing
last line of the vid sums it up perfectly LOL i copped the game with a mate years after release when it was on sale for like 3 bucks and we had a lot of fun with it, probably the best $3 ive ever spent
Cheer up people we got a MVC collection coming soon!
What do you mean 2017 was 7 years ago
We're getting old :(
My last book, Rubber Girl was published in 2017. So, I've been writing Fairy Girl for 7 years now. When am I going to finish this book? Rubber Girl came the same year as Toon Girl. And Toon Girl only came a year after The Flying Boy. This is ridiculous. Why is my fourth book so long?
hey as one of the best player who still play it i like this vid. Its ashame what happened to this game, dbfz, the memes etc but at core its a good and fun game just needed more love and time which people realize now!! Hope to get a new marvel one day and not have issues that seem to happen on marvels end as usual smh
Let's hope for a new MvC game. But, they have to do everything right..
Thank you for the uploads. New subscription
How did we go from something so amazing from 2 and 3 to infinite, like jeez
Exactly
No wolverine and xmen in general, was the biggest mistake probably.
I could say that it is one of the reasons. The X-Men, alongside the Street Fighters started the Marvel vs. Capcom crossover known as X-Men vs Street Fighter.
No bro I didn’t know about that stuff you left out 😂😂. That’s why I was looking it up but thanks for the video I just got it on sale today 🎉
I feel like Capcom has eyes only on street fighter, meanwhile arcsys has been developing like 3 to 4 franchises(the style are very similar, ok) but this is sad
Better than nothing at least.
I could see one of two things
1. SF’s crossover scope goes from KoF level to NGBC level, everything but RE and Monster Hunter is incorporated into SF.
2. Capcom licenses their characters to other developers and publishers.
The way I see it they're just gonna keep milking SF until the day they go bankrupt. Guest appearances are all we're ever getting. It was fun while it lasted, I guess. I'm simultaneously crying because it's over and smiling because it happened...
@@Jsslade
Unless Capcom get bought out and forced to make a new Vs game.
@@Jsslade
I do think that if we get an SF7 before a new Vs game, it might be the final SF game for a while if ever.
Basically, i see this as the last game Marvel and capcom will ever make together and the one that killed the series.
Watching gameplay of mvci is so fun that I'm sad the jarring aspects of the game like roster and visuals bring it down a ton
At least there's still some pretty cool Capcom choices.
only half of the DLC characters are in the story mode (Monster Hunter, Black Panther and Sigma)
The gameplay was fun from what i remember
The gameplay is great, actually. But the rest, I can't say the same thing..
u start the video by saying ur not gonna waste time telling us things we already know, im 2 minutes in and all youve done is explain things we already know
man, this during the time of Project X ZONE 1 and 2 and THOSE GAMES WHERE SUPER GREAT with the story and characters meeting it was more of a fun thing then a super serious thing like idk madoka magica lol but you get the point
I rented umvc3 from blockbuster convinced all my friends to get it and we had a blast my team was x23 wesker and skrull I didnt know who x23 or super skrull was and looked up comics they were in and they are in soft spot in my heart, venom and black panther were cool but I wish they picked more obscure characters😅
The game had over 1 million sales... that should have told Capcom and Marvel something... We wanted the game... It was a good game... but shady business practices are what killed it on arrival.
Also, I honestly believe Capcom messed up when they created 3 v 3 gameplay... it was nice that MVCI came back to the game's roots.
If anything, if we ever get another MvC game, they should, and I am sure can easily, incorporate both 3v3 and 2v2 gameplay... If a player picks 3v3, they don't get active switch... and if they pick 2v2, they get active switch...
I like that idea
Speaking of MVC, there are other characters you didn't do guide videos about them in UMVC3
This was my first Marvel and I really enjoyed it. I wish the budget had been spent on dev instead of the stupid story though - when those end credits role its like 90% the story studio 10% game devs :D :D
For me, this game was dead the minute Arc Sys revealed Dragon Ball Fighterz. Sure, with more time MVCI could've been better, but there was no way it was standing toe to toe with a fighting game based on an anime everyone and their grandma has seen.
I feel like something overlooked is that Anime fighters don't have a good reputation. Like, before Dragon Ball Fighterz, Dragon Ball games had a reputation for being lousy aside from some dated and niche 90s titles, and the arena-styled Anime fighters to this day don't get a lot of respect.
Fighterz is kind of an outlier, and it got a lot of publicity because "it's a fighting game based on an Anime that's ACTUALLY GOOD," as well as the memes about how it's so much better than MvC:I.
I mean, remember how quickly Jump Force crashed after all the hype surrounding that game? I think that people thought that Fighterz would have suffered a similar fate, fans of the series liking it, FGC rejecting it.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917The memes hard carried FighterZ if you asked me, it is definitely a solid game based on the license but people treated it like the first decent competitive anime or Dragon Ball game and definitely ignored shortcomings in how the roster was homogenous since it looked nice and was 3 vs 3. I saw something a bit similar with people acting like Batman and Spidey only got great games recently (not many people but enough to note).
Dragon Ball had good games in the 00s for fighting from Infinite World/Shin Budokai to Super DBZ to even Budokai Tenkachi 2 if you actually get into the movement. I grant that not every character would be very viable but coming off Marvel which didn't even give all characters Level 3s, it doesn't mean as much.
Naruto had the Clash of Ninja series which was competitively sound if Storm isn't your thing. Bleach had 7 Heat the Souls games and Blade of Fate. Fate had FUC.
There have been decent platform fighters like One Piece Gigant Battle and Jump Superstars. Even arena fighters could be pretty good from Zoids Wild Blast Unleashed to Gundam Vs which is just as old.
Jump Force and some other titles definitely gave arena fighters a bad name, but we had options. FighterZ is just the only modern one which popped off and from what I can tell, Storm may not be as shallow as I think though I'm not expecting it to become the next Sonic the Fighters of misunderstood games.
MvCi is such a tragic end to this fantastic crossover series, ruined by the dunderheaded disney manegement,
Taking away comic style,the music, Ui & the X men (even though they had the rights! Fox only had the movie rights)
the game does have its bright spots, the gameplay can get wild with the tagging + stones & the rollback netcode is smooth ,
But it was doomed from the start. Thanx for the revisit Khanage, hope it returns ( but meanwhile, we got great mods for mvc3)
THIS RIGHT HERE. This speaks out my own thoughts better than I ever could.
Funny how an UMVC4 with the same physics, new characters, all the old characters and no infinite combos would’ve been enough.
Jedah, black panther and monster hunter are playable. Venom came back, not to mention X and Sigma, that’s kinda cool. I liked the roster after the initial shock.
yo nights into dreams music, hell yeah!
How is this game 7 years old? I remember being so excited for this game and being so disappointed in it.
What people need to understand is, the X-men and Fantastic Four CAN be used in video games without worry. Marvel sold the MOVIE rights to those franchises to other companies back in the 90s, but video games, they are all still allowed to appear in because the rights to use them in games are still in Disneys hands. Best example, Marvels Contest Of Champions, yes it’s a mobile game but still a video game. And as other UA-camrs pointed out, this game was data mined and the X-men were going to be in the game. Marvel just wanted to focus on MCU characters at the time, obviously a poor choice.
I like MvCI, but you can tell from what we're looking at it was a shoestring budget, the Marvel side has more new characters than rehash and better models to please their partners.
If it ever comes back i would love to have this gameplay back, its probably the most fun and experimental gameplay they've ever done.
But in my opinion i hope Disney somehow looses the Marvel license, it woule be so much better without them. Cause around the same year. Marvels Ultimate Alliance 3 was announced and that has MCU plus a dozen others that Capcom used and referenced before. Including voice actors who were in UMVC3 and not on infinite. Such a strange favoritism.
First of all it's always going to stay with them, also need I remind you about the disaster of SFXT and SFV launch?
I picked up Mvci this week during the steam summer sale due to Max’s big mod pack they are working on. Hoping it gets finished but honestly as Mvc casual compared to other fighters I love. I think the game has been fairly enjoyable but I can see why it didn’t take off like previous entries in the series.
I still play this 😊
Same but I just start playing it since yesterday
Same here!
Since this game runs on Unreal Engine, I'm surprised it didn't even get mods taken or inspired by other games that run on the engine. Not even a single Fortnite Stage mod...
Heck, I want a Ripto's Arena or Just Beachy stage mod as well.
Speak of the devil, eh?
The fact budget and time were the main problems... If they had waited until after endgame, the RE engine would be in use for the character models, disney would have access to the xmen characters by that point, and capcom would have time to remake the models in the new graphical system. The fact most of the ideas and gameplay for the game work just fine but the presentation is so atrocious because its rushed when it could have been like, the most successful game, ever.
Woah! You hit the nail in the head, and it's said better than my recent comment(s)
With marvel now having the rights to the x men and us getting a Deadpool and wolverine movie on top of that street fighter 6 is a large improvement over 5 I think the future is bright for marvel vs capcom and with the series recent popularity I think we will see a new game in 3 years tops
No. with how marvel operating and handling business today I wouldn't want a new MVC, because it's a guarantee they will push their woke ideology into the the game. Surely We will get iron heart instead of iron man, the new female black panther, madame web instead of spider man, Jane foster Thor instead of thor and many other.
@@sgnitzlennahv Then the Capcom side will have to make up for it (and to be fair, the Jane Foster Thor is dead, the female Black Panther retired, Madame Web has nothing to do with the MCU...), making it more like a Capcom All-Stars or CvS3, without a guaranteed lifeline.
I am now playing this game. This is the Marvel vs Capcom game that was currently under $100 as of 2023. I appreciate the buffs that the infinite stones gave to the characters. My most favorite stones are power stone and time stone.
However, I do not like how uneven the roster is…
Let’s say that X-Men we’re still not able to make it. I’m ok with the roster EXCEPT THAT….
1. Rocket Raccoon should be replaced with The Punisher or Daredevil.
2. Replace Winter Soldier for a Capcom character such as Gill, Asura, or Akuma.
Of course it feels strange to return to a similar game after a long time.
I hope this guy makes a video about Maximillian's mod for Infinite & Beyond.
Whelp, time to wait for Lythero and the Gang to take over.
another issue was that DBFZ came out like two months later, and had way more hype and ended up basically filling the MVC void much better than this game did.
Is this game worth $15 for everything? Never played the older games.
Yes.
As a kid…? How old were you when this game came out..?
For the short roster complains, for what it was rumored, this game was supposed to be the largest in the series in roster aspects, it starts with 30 characters but it would eventually end up with 61(the plus one being a playable version of ultron sigma), not a bad number if we think that mvsc3 had 36 and ended up with 50, mvsc2 had 56 but you can tell that most of these characters were directly imported from early games(cable and marrow were the only in fact new characters in mvsc2's marvel roster)
and this is something that could had been viable, just like sfv started with 16 characters and ended with 45, being until date the largest sf
But still, it is a shame that they really focused on mcu instead of the part of marvel that was really appealing in the franchise
Man I love MVCI so much I wish MVC3 worked with my brain cuz I just CANT play that one
WE NEEEEEED A NEW ENTRY
I think they should just do a new X-Men '97 vs Street Fighter and ease their way into it.
The presentation of mvci gives it the same vibes as one of those ultra shitty based-on-a-movie video games
Bro I was so sad this game failed. IMO it had nothing going for it, except for the gameplay. And the gameplay was gooooood.