MASSIVE 6' Second Growth Redwood - Felling & Bucking
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- The file size for this video in it's original form was on the large side initially. I had to par it down a bit with speeding up the extraneous and reducing the quality - So sorry there.
Filmed in the same unit as the Woods Tank, West Coast Logging (2 videos), and Massive 6' 2nd Growth Redwood vs Woods Tank and a BEAVERSLIDE, etc. were.
From the Fall of '19.
As stated, I had to go a little high (to the left ) to miss a couple of stumps. The best shot was about 75º off to the right and plowing through the smaller spruce on the right and into the swale. But, saving the white wood was part of the prescription, so it lives.
Volume was not super great. It was not overly tall and had a rot and a spike knot/marm at 80'. It started tapering pretty "goodly" from there as it went from 48" to 24" in 32'. The top chunk was even "worser". Volume loss was not that much and no leave trees were harmed in the killing of this one. In my defense, I save her out to the first break....
Lost the saw in a fling thing at the end of the second bucking run. And yah, I let her go since they make new saws everyday....
Itemizing the log lengths & individual volumes:
55" 16' for 2270 B.F.
48" x 51" 20' for 2340 B.F.
48" 20' for 2160 B.F.
48" 24' for 2590 B.F.
24" 32' for 810 B.F.
16' top log unscaled.
Total recovery 10,170 B.F. Scribner.
Not bad for the land owner.
This was a process and the Go-Pro ran out of bat before I finished this tree off which I regret. Such is life sometimes.
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Thanks for watching.
"Let us begin. Open your hymnals to hym 661and let it sing." I like that saw.
Appreciate the work you put into this channel. I have been with it since the 394 “Sleeper” days. I am an east coast guy and most of my falling is in a residential setting so I have enjoyed seeing your work over the last decade or so. Thank you again.
instaBlaster...
I’ve only seen a bottle jack used one other time on a video like this! ! You be safe out there and God bless you for showing us your skills!
Another Awesome job!! Well done!! Thanks for tallying the BF. Wow! 10K from one tree ... I have never seen that here in the south. But I am sure you have seen it quite a lot!! I think you did all you could with that situation and saved as much wood as you could !! Much Success to You!
Thank you very much for the highlight of my comment. I enjoy it when the opportunity arises to fall some trees . I watch alot of falling thanks to all you fallers out there and thanks to youtube. I learn something everytime i watch . 😎👏👏🤙be safe
Thank you Jack for sharing all of you're videos with us God bless stay safe !!
Are you kidding? That saw is a beast! I thought he was just gonna back it up all the way... LoL!
Your living the dream !! God Bless!!💪🏻👍 That’s some Pretty timber. Thanks for sharing!!
Nice job . Thank you for taking the time to make a video for all of us to enjoy👌👏👏
"They make those saws everyday". Second time I heard that. First time I was about to make a back cut in a four foot oak leaner....from my best friend and it was his saw.
Look at those chips flying! 😂🤣😂 Some saw. Mint. Always enjoy your videos! Cheers from 🇬🇧
you make this look easy and i know its far from it kind sir. the average guy couldnt evern hold that saw up and make a level cut. i run a 661 one where i work but i dont fall trees like this but i do have to cut down the remainder of big stumps on mostly hardwoods and it is not easy work lol those big saws are a workout especially with a big bar. i would love to someday learn to fall big trees like this but where i live there isnt anything like that around. ive fallen a few trees before but nothing like this. great video man stay safe
Man that saw is running dang nice for testing it out. Much love and as always great work!
"Lost the saw in a fling thing at the end of the second bucking run. And yah, I let her go since they make new saws everyday...." LOL Well put! Cheers buddy!!
Thank you Jack , that was fun to watch !
Nice saw...takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Good work.
Hello Hotsaws101. I live in Mckinleyille and enjoy your channel. I hope some day you make a video showing how you use your gun sticks and springboard. I have seen you use them, but some background on technique would be great. Keep up the great work, love the vids.
Its pretty awesome watching you cut down these big ass trees. I've done it a couple of times but they weren't that big of tree tall but not 6 feet wide. And it took me forever to figure out the fall direction. Lol goes to show you=pro me=amateur lol awesome videos bro
I've never seen a chain cut that fast? Incredible!! Awesome video as always.
this boy knows his stuff and that saw is NOT stock I guarantee that!
This boy knows his stuff and that saw is NOT stock I guarantee that!
The combo of a skip tooth chain, a softer wood, and a MONSTER saw make that chain sing.
@@batmantiss hi. I think that comp (.375) will cut a bit faster especially when getting through the bark. This was the most hard on the stump redwood I ever remember cutting. I refined "my angles" pretty much everyday in the this strip. This unit was pounded with a pretty steady amount of wind since it was only ~ a mile from the ocean.
Thanks for noticing that the saw itself is a "specimen".
Yes, a well sharpened chain, makes, a log appear 'soft' as well as a powerful saw. Hard for some folks to comprehend. I love how the saw whistles as it draws air, sounds like a turbo or blower on there,...impressive.
'Torque'
Thanks for the longer video
Was that tree a little soft? It looked like it was just a tad punky from the way it pulled fiber on a couple of your bucks. Maybe all redwood are like this? I have never cut one so know nothing about them. I have seen this on Yellow Pine a time or two.
Ol HOT SAWS calls em' GLORIFIED WEEDS!
stevencroon hi. I wouldn't say so. Completely solid until it hit the spike knot. This was some of the toughest I've ever cut.
No. Some are. Sometimes the wood will have a wave pattern - curly. There are videos that show it in the hinge. It will run the full length of he bole sometimes. It will break in a wave shape like what you are referring to.
Redwoods are known to be brittle. They carry a lot of water and are usually heavy. One of the reasons there are some different techniques that are required to save the wood while felling them. This channel shows a few of said techniques in some of the videos.
It's kind of like when bucking a log through a knot in a big ol' Ponderosa or Sugar Pine and it breaks away in a wave like pattern. I've seen that inland before too.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 I can sure relate to the knot pull I have experienced on Pine, and now I know why you try to drop them soft, good info and thanx for the insight. With the Man's blessing I will continue to learn.
Hey hot saw can you please do a demonstration on your string your string a majig the one you measure up the trees with and line it up and how it works and how can I make one myself thank you
Awesome video, thank you for sharing. You certainly give a hard days work for your pay my Friend. I know what it's like, I worked for a tree service almost 40 yrs ago for a few years. Keeps you in good shape. I'd love to learn how you port and insainorize those saws and it would be awesome for you to show us here, but I understand you gotta' make extra money, not by giving away all your secrets to build the hotsaws for your customers. Have a Blessed day on GODS great green earth and be safe out there doing the worlds most deadliest job.
You lost the saw in the woods? Where exactly?
@ about 43:20 Mr Jack lets go of the saw.
No sooner top her off, she goes flying out your hands....lol
excellent job and great video!
Took me a few sessions to get through this video, but it was worth the wait. Nice work, you were in the groove on this big job. It is really an athlete that does this work. Great exersize that requires good care of the body as well as the mind and your equipment. Thanks for sharing your lifetime of compiled skill with us. Generations of work coming together. Your Grandpa is proud of you as I am too. Many of us Appreciate You , and your willingness to share. Dig it and Love it.
Thanks so Much. .
Thank You
this boy knows his stuff and that saw is NOT stock I guarantee that!
Awesome, that saw sound's and cuts!!!!
wow, this is completely a different way to get a tree down from what I see with Logger Wade and nuts318
You super hero!!! Top
Just curious how old that tree is? Great job, enjoy watching your vids!
6 footers are not very old. Some planted specimens in cities reach that diameter. They can get 6 feet wide in less than 100 years.
Sucks it broke, but not an ideal situation and with the rot probably not the end of the world on that one. I'd be about as excited for that uphill falling as I'd be about downhill yarding! 661 sure runs nice tho.
Mr. Speed. How true. Especially after taking all that time getting the stump right, along with the cognitive recalibration - aka, hydraulic persuasion.
It saved out to the marm/rot. Sometimes that is called saving it out the the first break....So, "I got the meat".
At times, crap happens...
Thanks for watching.
Big trees, huge skills
Why did you make the notch so small? Why wouldn't you make it like 45 or more degrees so it has all the holding wood the whole way down? I'm not a professional by any means I just don't understand why!
Eric hi. It's a timing thing. Thanks for watching.
I'd love to hear what you're doing with the "clears the string at about 80' or so". How's that work?
Armpit Studios hi. I'm checking the lean, fore and aft, along with the side lean in order to have an understanding of what I need to do in order to compensate for trees posture.
Thanks for watching.
Hi mate, another great video, you nail that one!
Saw was running awesome too! If you don’t mine me asking what 2 stroke oil do you use or recommend? Cheers Stoney...
Stoney hi. Thanks. I blend my own. It depends upon the saw's state of tune really. A good all a rounder would be the H1-R for a mix of both stock & zipped machines - regardless of what they are.
Thank for watching.
hotsaws101
Thanks mate, l appreciate your thoughts! With out getting into the oil wars 😉 world 40:1 for stock or zipped be ok? Thanks again Stoney...
Stoney 66 hi.
It depends upon a few factors - the better the oil the less you need imho.
I don't run mine that rich concentration wise either.
Thanks for watching.
hotsaws101,
That’s so true, I’ve aways believe that, l always use 50:1, with good oils! I did a little research on H1r, for chainsaws, and came across more people were adding more off it in their mix! That’s why l went 40:1 to you, some are using 32:1and more! It didn’t seem right me.l would rather take your advice and knowledge over them!
So 66:1, l give it a try!
I love all my saws and maintain them to the highest ability. Thanks again mate... Stoney.
Stoney 66
50 to 1 or 66 to 1 ratio whatever u find works best for you for 2 strokes because otherwise 40 to 1 and those other ratios is a little to rich also keep in the mind the seasons that you are mostly cutting in cause that makes ah hell of ah difference as well.
Another great one. Pity it broke on landing but as you say, there was rot.
Love the videos. And commentary " boys and girls". Curious as to what measurements your looking for length wise and width.
Also do fellers like yourself get paid by the board foot, hour or what.
Love the vids.
Nicholas hi. I listed out the measurements in the description area.
Depends upon where a guy is working. Some areas it's by the hour. Some it's piece work.
I bushel. Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 thanks for the reply. Thanks for the videos. Nice work from the north east.
Gotta love "Jumbo Shrimp"
tnbrfiler hi. I surely do! Quite a clever comment too.
Thanks for watching.
Hello Jack;
I think that spruce was more of a detriment causing it to pull your tree over from where you wanted it. If they aren't happy with broken trees they can always pay to grind the stumps !
Kevin hi. Trying not to take out and/or damage the leave trees was almost as much of a consideration as saving out the take trees. This is because at some future point, they will be worth harvesting. Any damage they sustain will reduce the tree's value.
It was in a bad location. I could have hit the swale had it not been growing there. That was a much better shot.
Although sometimes a guy will experience the "Velcro Effect", this was more the opposite due to the toughness of the limbs and spruce are a known quantity for being a tough wood - pushing the other trees off. Even though it was a smaller spruce, it was still really tough.
In the end, the red went a bit high, but it also missed a couple of stumps and did not break in the guts. That would have been a costly
das-aster.
Thanks for watching.
What kind of bottle jack is that ? And where do you get one
Ken hi.
It's a Silvey Hijacker. A timberfalling specifically manufactured aluminum jack. Rated at 45 tons @ 10,000 psi
Thanks for watching.
Claen job 👍
hotsaws101#1, A pros pro great videos without nonsense. Jacks saws are in demand all over the world and are are all over the world. His expertise is beyond reproach, chips fly like ammo from a M134 GAU-17 Gatling Gun. My go to saw channel. Did I mention I am a fan?
Smokey 66 hi. Thanks for the kind words. Not really sure if the saws I build are that sought after though. The only reason I know anything is because I've never been afraid to try things & made way more mistakes than most getting there...
Thanks for watching.
hotsaws101, I have watched people in many countries including the United States praise your work, limited exposure would be the only reason that may support you indicated “not sure”. Perhaps the limited exposure is calculated because if your skills were marketed for exposure, you would be so busy building saws it would interfere with your true love of being in the woods falling timber. Keep up the good work, great videos but whatever hopefully you don’t start playing drums.
Hi Hotsaws this beautiful redwood forest grow in northern California?
Jona V. hi. Yes. Humboldt County. Thanks for watching.
Where can I get a jack like that?
Rood - You would have to buy a used one as this is a Silvey. This model lifts 45 tons @ 10,000 psi.
Salt Creek Industries ( home of Simington grinders) in Lake View Or. has one. Borntrager out of Lebanon Or. has a few options.
Thanks for watching.
wild saw right there
That’s What I Call Sprucing Up 😀😮😊
That 6 really screams, for sure!
What’s the price of that per thousand
Blade hi. All time record high for 2nd gen Redwood at this time the land owner was getting from the mill. Not my place to spout off on the number though. Somewhere quite north of 1300 per thousand though.
Thanks for watching.
How does one get ahold of you I have some questions
Christopher hi.
My email address is in the description area.
Thanks for watching.
hotsaws101 thank you and here’s mine farmerwheels@gmail.com I couldn’t find yours
shit wood ,to many limbs. this guy must be a power house dragging that jack with him all day!
GOD BLESS YOU ALL LOVE FOR YOU 😀😀😆😆😆😁😁😉😁😉😉😉
i am getting the impression that it was kinda a rough day, this day. lol
Damon hi. It wasn't to bad overall. Saw was fine & I made it out alive. I think that most fallers will judge the day by the last concept, because equipment is easily replaced.
Thanks for watching.
Hello again Hotsaws 101. If i may I would like to pick your brain on something...at about the 22 minute mark you measured from the undercut out. What were you looking for here? What was your math formula? kinda kidding, but from watching your videos I can tell there is a method to your madness!! Later I saw you cut out the tree in front of the undercut, then at around 25.46 you bored into the center of the tree. Why? I have been curious as to the strategy behind this, I have seen some of your other stumps that look like you did the same thing. I am in no way questioning your work just curious as I am sure there is a reason. Thanks, be safe. AJ
the additional cut is called a *gapped face*
explained in this video for example: goto 9:05 min ua-cam.com/video/nLIEYvHMS8U/v-deo.html
and here are some formulas for tree cutting: 😆
academic.oup.com/forestscience/article-pdf/58/6/547/22546522/forestscience0547.pdf
Aj Bolton hi. I can appreciate the difference between a question or two and someone that already knows it all or is pushing an agenda. Yah, there is not to much in the way of autopilot going on at this stage.
Getting the distance from the hinge for that side of the snipe/deck interface.
Gutting the heartwood. Has to do with timing, pulling, drifting, etc., etc.
Thanks for watching.
Marty hi. Gapped face? What you reference is a Modified Humboldt undercut with an open hinge, or you could possibly call it a Modified Humboldt undercut with an open back. Keep in mind this video was filmed in Humboldt County where the term Humboldt Undercut originated.
As far as World's Best? I'd be very hard pressed to ever say that about anything I've done....
I did explain correctly to Mr. Aj Bolton what he was asking in case you want to peruse that information.
I do appreciate the "science" aspect, but, the authors were pretty quick (page 1) to point out (in parenthesis at end) the following:
"Motor manual tree felling remains an essential activity for harvesting on steep and broken terrain. Practical guidelines for different undercut methods have been developed, but little formal mechanical analysis on the performance of the undercuts is available. WorkSafeBC (2009) states the following about the Humboldt undercut (Figure 1): “This is the recommended safest cut. As the tree falls, the butt closes squarely against the sloping undercut pushing the tree away with less chance of the tree kicking back off the stump.” {This statement is technically incorrect.}
Unfortunately, “the authors” were also wrong to a degree similar as what is seen in the previous paragraph regarding the following:
This small field trial indicates that the holding wood is able to control the falling direction of a tree until it is completely broken when the undercut closes; however, if the lower part of the trunk contacts a rigid object, this can affect the performance of the holding wood and the magnitude of this effect will be a function of the brittleness of the wood.
Incidentally, the channel’s creator appreciates it when viewers actually ask before posting links.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 Thanks for the reply. If your ever in the Mckinleyville CA area let me repay you with a good cup of coffee. AJ
AJ - Jitter Bean then, LOL.
Сколько можно ходить вокруг???
DIZZYING
A couple glass of toddy....haha
Nice work, as always!
sure a lot of fiddling around, a good B.C./ West Coast faller would have taken half the time and not chewing away like this guy was!
To me it doesn't look like there is much time wasted. I am pretty sure too much hurry, on a tree of that size, could easily end up in the tree falling some distance to the right or left, and that may be exactly what he tries to avoid. I was also impressed to see that on such a big stump, a lot of things that you could go away with on a smaller tree need to be considered with precision. Like a going a few degrees off from the horizontal starting the back cut, and you end up way off on the other side of the stump
I'd love to meet the 69 individuals that hit the dislike button! If you disliked THIS, I'd say you were lost and needed to find a completely different category of videos to watch, because it doesn't get any better than this, I guarantee it! Cheers Jack! -HollyWood!
how many trees do you cut in a day?
David hi.
How big are they? How many logs for the trees have in them? What is the ground like? Is it the first day of 70th? What it thd brush load like in the strip? What is the cutting prescription?
Thinking that it is impossible to give a "it is this" type of number. Tree count can vary hugely from one side of a strip to the other depending upon a lot of factors.
On the other side of that, I have only cut one in a day and over 200 in a day.
Thanks for watching.
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I would never cut a redwood tree that big, never athe big trees are vitally important for trees survival in the long haul ! Pluss they take a liftime and longer to replace themselves !
Jason hi.
Think I'm picking up what your laying down here.
On the West Coast, specifically NorCal Coast, the most vibrant growing time for the "coasty" forest is between 30 and 70 years. This comes from the forestry people that study, well, forests.
So, this particular tree is not really in it's "prime" since it is older than 70 years.by a fair amount.
I think that there is a lot emotion involved with the majority of people's opinions regarding trees.
I do not think that there is much in the way of consideration of the actual facts when it comes to trees with a majority of people's opinions, however. Which of course, is entirely unfortunate.
What I find laughable is that all the pro tree life people always seem to go home to a nice wood construction home.
Seems a tad hypocritical to me personally.
Thanks for watching.
that's a real saw sounds great. sounds lean tho
Ryans logging. This saw is non M-tronic. It is the same saw that is sporting a 72" Cannon with .404. I took it as far as I've ever gone in a 661 and then I went another click or two. I was saw testing it for myself. I do push the envelope but, I would not say it was lean. I would say it was breathing fire though.
Thanks for watching.
Look this video like drink a couple of glass toddy.....
Seems like a lot of fuss over a fairly simple fall!
From the camera view it looked like your longer ground was up to the left. Maybe you couldn't lift it.
This guy has no idea how to cut a tree down.
Robbie Glass How would you have done it?
@@robstone5333 Used a mans saw, an 090 with a five foot bar!
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Redwood: Shitty brittle wood. Reason everyone grows Doug Fir/Pine and not the Cedar family...
you have blown out your microphone on the camera you're using... please get another... and don't use it near running chainsaws... we can barely hear you and the quality of the sound sucks... Please setup a tripod and put camera on it and not on your head... this really sucks... feels like motion sickness every time I watch you cut a tree.
You have some good ideas, and they would improve his sound, but please remember his job is a logger not a videographer! And clearly you must know this is a very rough environment for equipment!! What I am saying he could probably blow out a mic every week or so with those loud saws so near (even if not on his head). I don't think his budget is very big for breaking equipment weekly!! carrying a tripod through that brush you saw him climbing through is probably out of the question!
Why don't you sent him all that stuff you mentioned, and a mule to pack it around? Or. . . don't watch the video? Or simply say " thank you" for taking the time to do all the extra work that's entailed in making this video? Crybabie😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Michelle Pugh. Exactly, perhaps this guy should watch the channel where the guy spends the first 10 minutes telling a lot of people we don’t know Hi, then plays the drums for the next ten minutes, stand up comedy mixed in and finally telling me to be kind so often, I finally become not so kind I write a critical comment like ken jay. BUT the “other” guy has much better video and sound equipment.
Pauric Brown, agree gets old fast. I think Jack’s motivation is to share interesting videos of timber falling and great running saws and the other gentleman’s motivation is to garner subscribers.
@@michellepugh2859 high five for this comment. Some people haven't a clue.
Boring
Use a real mans saw with a five bar so you dont have to hack the tree all up to get through it and cut all the way through the log so you dont drop the saw and let go flying away lol
No good you take to much time
Javier Garcia STFU