Lasagna Freeze Dried And Fresh Comparison Ep153
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Today I Freeze Dry a whole lasagna. I then reconstitute it and compare it to a fresh one I made at the same time. I was amazed at how the FD one tasted!
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I want to share how I re-hydrated my lasagna. I made it in layers, as your video showed. After freeze-drying & assembling it, I weighed my lasagna dry. Since I have heard that dried foods are roughly 1/3rd their original weight, I multiplied the dry weight by 3. I then subtracted the dry weight and converted what remained to cups. That is how much water I added to the lasagna. (That worked out to twice the dry lasagna weight in water, but converted to cups.) I covered it with foil and baked it at 350F for 45 min. Uncovered & baked another 10 min. It worked beautifully! Not soupy, and perfectly tender noodles and rehydrated meat and sauce. It was delicious!! I also wanted to point out that I cooked the components, but never baked the original lasagna, so it needed the long baking time. Thanks for giving us this great video, John!
Thanks for sharing your way of rehydrating the lasagne. A small tip: if you can switch your scale to gram setting you can weigh everything in gram and skip the math converting the amount of water from liquid oz in cups. 1 gram equals 1 milliliter. So if the weight loss is 250 gram you need 250 ml. Most measurement cups have ml lines next to the cup lines.
Super helpful, thanks!
I’m amazed you only have 3000 subscribers! You have a great channel. Thanks!
Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for watching!
@@JohnInBibs - haha, I hope you didn't have to overstuff yourself that day, due to the thorough comparison you gave in this nice video. Thumbs up!
Best Freeze Dry Channel. Thanks for the info.
Wow, thanks!
Thank you for sharing this idea of separate layers! Your tips of ingenuity are always very heloful, full of work-arounds to FD challenges us newbies haven't thought of (like diluting ketchup) 😊 ps I often say my epitaph should read, "Her Entire Life Was A Work-Around" 🤦🏼♀️😂
BTW, "You can never go overboard on cheese." -- Greg. :D
This is amazing! I think for our purposes, we'll seal in a gallon mylar and rehydrate as a lasagna casserole. The shape isn't as important as the taste. Thanks for going the extra mile on this!
I love the remark in my Mind it works.
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I just love watching your vids. I never thought about your process in making the separate layers in the FD. I wasn't sure how long you left the FD absorb the water before you popped it in the oven. You are the man. Thumbs up!!!
Basically I just added the cold water and put it in the oven, it reconstituted as it cooked.
I appreciate John's sacrifice in overstuffing himself with lasagna, in the name of thorough research
Separating the layers? I never thought of that, I will have to investigate further and maybe work it into my own videos. Excellent experiment and good results.
Brilliant! If you reuse the Mylar, you should be able to clean off the permanent markings with alcohol. I'm just getting started with Freeze Drying so this video is wonderful.
Thanks
5 cups might have work if you backed it without wrapping it in foil so the steam gets out. Just a thought. Love your videos.
Your ingenuity is amazing, John! Thanks for all your efforts.
I appreciate that!
I appreciate you showing your process and your "mistakes". It is very educational. I definitely love the layering process for the lasagna.
I just found your channel and I’m so happy. The middle one is just how we love it. My freeze dryer is ordered and I have to wait 10 weeks for delivery. I’m so inspired. Thank you
Thanks for watching! I hope your 10 weeks goes quickly.
I ordered mine yesterday.....I'll be waiting too!
I wonder if there would be any issue with re-hydrating over night in the fridge? The only noodle I've ever done was some mac and cheese. Some of the Macaroni didn't re-hydrate very well and I was thinking might work better if left overnight before warming up. Gonna try something similar to this lasagna soon but was thinking about the smaller single serve aluminum trays.
That sounds like a good idea, I would appreciate it if you let me know how it turns out.
Instablaster.
Keeping all your recipes. I love them all thank you for sharing.
This opens up a whole new dimension to freeze drying! I am definitely going to try this!
Thanks!
Would it be easier to spread the cheese mixture if you had the base frozen? I love what you are doing!!! I wonder if you baked the wet one with a vent in it so the water would evaporate? I see you did that. It looks good!!
Great idea... I love lasagna! However, I'm going to take the challenge and make a few dishes and FD, seal and store then for 1 & 2 years and post videos. I think sealed with correct O2 absorbers and air removal will work even with oil item. My hypothesis is that oil oxidizes for O2, so stored w/o that and water will be safe. ;) That is part of the first video that I've got an FD item going now for. ;)
Great idea!
Awesome video...maybe instead of using plain water drop a beef bullion cube or maybe mix in a little roasted tomato bullion 🤷♂️
Masterfully done. Have always wondered how that would work. I always just chunk mine up. Thank you for all the work this took. Looks great, my mouth was watering.
Thanks 👍
Excellent video, have not found another video where they have successfully rehydrated an entire lasagne!
We appreciate all your experimentation and the expense involved with it! I think though the noodles were precooked in all 3 versions, the FD probably infused the noodles with the sauce during the vacuum process. As for liking the middle, more cooked version better... my hubby would have selected that one too. Tomato products always taste better on the 2nd cooking/warming though I don't know the science behind why. Its been documented in many a cookbook though, and I know for my small family lasagna lasts 2 nights, and the 2nd night always tastes better. I think there is probably a carmelization of the sauce and onions with the longer cook time. Since your 4 cups of water version had extra liquid in the bottom, cook according to directions covered, then uncover and cook until the top gets the color and crispness you want it. Honestly though, I do a lazy lasagna with shaped pasta, sauce and the cheeses (no eggs) and cooked like baked ziti, which is faster to make and easier to serve and eat. And while I haven't tried it in the FD yet, I'm sure its easier to put on trays and to reconstitute too. But I love how you were able to layer it on the trays and reassemble to rehydrate and cook with good success! Well done!
Wow. Fantastic video. I'm going to have to make a bunch of trays up for the coming Apocalypse!!
Looks delicious! It was fun to see the difference between fresh & FD! Watching video 3.6.21 lasagna expires 4.4.21?
doh, did i write the wrong date on my package LOL
When rehydrating thick foods it might be better to add your boiling water and then cover the food with foil for a few minutes.
BRILLIANT JOHN! Omgosh I just ordered my pans so I can do this. Im Italian and we gotta have our lasagne. Thank you
As an Italian please forgive my recipe. I wasn't sure it would work so I made a basic recipe. Let us know how yours come out
@@JohnInBibs Yours is great. Not our ancestors but it’ll work and it’ll feed our families ❤️ Ciao
Maybe the freeze drying marries the flavors. That might be why the flavors are better. Love your videos. Thanks for the your time and money you put into teaching and giving us ideas.
John thank you so much for the awesome lasagna video as well as all the videos you do. Your stuff is invaluable to us.
Just a couple of quick questions and comments.
You mentioned lasagna noodles were too soft, maybe cooking them less time, or not at all in the water when you boiled them, and keeping them al dente might have helped that.
Second, I agree with less water to reconstitute cuz keep in mind, making lasagna fresh there's a lot of extra water in the mozzarella, and ricotta.
Question,.
I know less oil and grease is a must for free drying so are you not afraid of the oil you use when you cook the onion as far as going rancid during long-term storage?
last question I've never used cottage cheese or eggs in my lasagna what's the purpose of that?
I use only ricotta, parmesan, fresh mozzarella. Cottage cheese scares me and lasagna.
Either way lasagna is my favorite meal so I'm so happy to see I have a path to eating it during the apocalypse. Thank you for doing it and thank you for your responses.
By all means I suggest using your favorite recipe though I would stay away from the sausage (in my opinion). I used a sparingly amount of olive oil to fry the onions/garlic with that spread thru 4 FD trays doesn't worry me much though time will tell. I did contemplate getting the noodles that are made to be put in dry I think they are called oven noodles, in hind sight that may be a better choice but I do wonder if i could cut the dry noodles to size. As for the cottage cheese Mom always included it so I did as well. Thank you so much for watching and your questions!
Looked delicious, thanks for the inspiration
how long did it take until it was reconstituted.
It reconstituted as it baked
Hey John, Make Lasagna soup with the other one. 😃
The first try certainly was soupy, LOL
Looks delicious.. thanks going have to try this 🤗👍
Hey John, any thoughts on doing some cooked single meal lasagna in a pouch? I would imagine you would still need to separate the layers after it's cooked to FD it.
interesting idea
Lasagna soup with the watery one! I make lasagna soup with my leftover lasagna sometimes.
Another reason this is a great video is that we've had a long-standing promise to a very long family friend to make this for her. The deconstructed layers I'm sure is a great key for this. Thanks! ... Oh the sacrifice of "going through" all that lasagna. :D
LOL somebody had to do it
You must have been a chemist and chef in another life. The brilliant ideas you come up with expands the freeze drying culinary world. 👏👍🤗
LOL, I could sure use the income of a chemist or a chef! Have a great weekend
@@JohnInBibs you have a great weekend too!
Looks great! I would have just added more time to the first dehydrated one, maybe 20 more minutes instead of another 45.
I ordered my freeze dyer and can't wait till it gets here just a couple more weeks. May I ask where did you purchase the dividers from?
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Thank you for showing all this. I was debating DF lasagna but wasnr sure how it would reconstitute.
I’m watching this on March 6, 2021.... 3/6/21....your date on the long term storage is 4/4/21.....
We all get so happy about our freeze drying that sometimes we lose track of the dates!
Your recipe looks delicious! I think cooking the middle one longer, sweetens the sauce.
Your crazy way of freeze drying was brilliant!
LOL, thanks another viewer noticed the dates as well. Numbers and I aren't friends
Wow, I could probably eat one of those pans in one sittings. Thank you for going through the time and cost to refine this recipe. I am holding you responsible if I gain any weight.
Oh No! LOL
Now that you have solved the noodle issue with the mac and cheese.... would you use the same process for your lasagne noodles?
my misses said Leave top off Same as you They did look good I wonder if the middle one tasted even better next day I bet it did Good grub
Yes the next day it tasted even better!
Your freeze dried lasagna was slightly smaller than the fresh one. I believe that is the difference in the water requirements.
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
Wow, thanks!
You needed to weigh the lasagna before and after dehydration. Not use the wet weight from the un dehydrated one. They were different sizes.
let it reconstitute before you cook it
i start with a noodle on the bottom of the dish for the first layer
if you have the time pasta reconstitutes great overnight in the fridge
really enjoy your vids
Thank you for sharing this comparison..
Wow that was so much work! You did amazing and thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for this, it gave me ideas.
Dang it JiB (😉 John), you make me so hungry watching your vids! I’m trying to lose weight but I swear I gain just from watching 🤣.
LOL
Don’t understand why a second bag
I have a food saver im jw what size bags you get?
Did you freeze them before freez drying them?
This is great!! I really need to try doing this!
Maybe infused is a good word....
I took your idea and applied it to a layered Green Enchilada Dish. I sealed it in plastic and it looked good, but a few hours later, it was obvious that the seal was broken. I don't have the roll of mylar that you recommended, but curious if your lasagnas stayed sealed with the mylar covering. If not, how did you deal with that? Just leave it?
The plastic alone will not work for long term storage. You need the mylar outer as well. If the vacuum is not holding you must reseal until you get a good seal that holds. I also put an O2 absorber between the layers as well as in the product
Love your videos, very helpful!
I can’t wait to see this…I love lasagna. Have you tried doing Collard greens or field purple hull peas?😊
I have done Black Eyed Peas and Greens (pretty much the same) they were fantastic! ua-cam.com/video/ge3CNlLgBOY/v-deo.html
How long did you keep it in the freeze dryer
Fun watch, thank you! It's a must try👌
So what you want to say is it test same or changed.
38:26 most of the freeze dried foods I've had is crumbled up, not 'in situ' as it were. so crumble it, And Don't Forget To MIX it while it's rehydrating.
48:02 as the food freeze dries the flavor concentrates as the water is removed, so yeah it's going to have more flavor. Taste should be the same, but more so.
Such a brilliant idea to dry the layers separately!! Thank you so much for sharing!!
Thanks for watching
Well, today I wish I could eat tomatoes.
Wow, John... EXCELLENT demonstration the whole way through. THANK YOU for taking the time to video & share your experiment bc it's so very helpful to those of us who are just starting out. REALLY APPRECIATED!!! Love your channel & content! You should put up a Thanks$ button for ppl who'd like to donate to 'the cause.' :)
I'm wondering if the freeze drying process didn't marry the ingredients together more. 🤔 You know how leftover tuna casserole (WITH PEAS) Always seems to taste better than fresh.
Have you ever done eggplant parmigiana? I have a lot of egg plant from my garden I’d like to freeze dry
I have not. That brings back memories of childhood, I don't think I have had it since then. I am always looking for ideas and this is a great one that I am sure can be turned in to a freeze drying success!
Brilliant! I’m new to freeze drying & don’t have a lot of imagination.. Thank you for this wonderful video!!!
Awesome Thanks! I always add garlic powder and chopped parsley to my cheese mixture.
I can't find the link for the pans. Could someone send it or include it in a reply to this comment?
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Regarding the trays and your link: The trays the link goes to are 9.02 x 7.01 x 5.98 inches. Maybe a different link?
It is the correct link, the item description is correct but they have the wrong measurements in the product information table. I was worried about that as well, but in one of the reviews or questions someone addresses the difference. (I am notorious for reading questions and reviews before purchases, lol) I think your above measurements are the package size measurements.
@@JohnInBibs I'll bet that is the shipping size for all of the pans. Thanks, and I have a new project!!
Is there a book where you give times and temps on how long these took to FD??
I use factory settings, I have never changed them in the 5 years of freeze drying. I always run my loads 40+ hours
Great job!
Thank you for investing so much time and sharing your valuable opinion.
This was very special but watching made me terribly hungry! Now I want to cook up a storm.
This is either genius or madness. Either way, I'm dying to try it!!! Thanks, John!!!
I am really glad that you made the low calorie version of your lasagna.
Thank you so much for your support. It really makes a difference!
🇨🇦🇺🇸 I am partial to the double cooked one. Nice job. Thanks
Thank you so much for this! We are waiting on our freeze dryer to arrive. You sure added to our excitement! And ideas and thoughts about how we can make use of this amazing machine.
Lasagna soup for that one with to much water! I bet that would be delicious @JohninBibs
Ok question for a solution. You need the water to go higher but have empty spaces on the sides which allows it to spread out. What can you add to the empty spaces on the side of the baking pan when you bake to force the water up where you need it and not have it spread out to the sides?
Also ever considering adding vitamins to the sauce since this is for shtf or figuring out the nutritional value and adding what’s missing? Can you fix these up to be a super food and work in the vitamins since you can’t freeze dry them?
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
@@JohnInBibs welcome. I appreciate your efforts!
Who would of thought....excellent video!!!👏👏👏
Can you re-freeze dry something after you have reconstituted it? You made the comment that that is way more lasagna than you will eat. Very interested
Love your videos. Learning so much from you. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Love your videos!!
Thanks
It seems to us that freeze Dried foods are always a bit tastier and the flavor is condensed!
Hi John! I was searching to see if you did any chicken parmesan freeze dried videos. Could that possibly be next? (Hint and please??)🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
It's not next but it is VERY close!!!
What would happen if you put hot water in and then vacuum sealed it for awhile?
Wow !
We have s med FD. It always stops and beeps when done freezing. It says to check plug in. So we take out the trays and disconnect plug in back of trays. Then plug back in and then it dries.we bought it 2 years ago. Please help us with ideas of what is wrong with it. Plus your channel is great. Thank you.
If it were my machine and this was happening I would buy some contact/switch cleaner. It is a spray and can be purchased in most hardware or automotive stores or on Amazon, just search for contact cleaner spray. I would spray the contacts where they plug together. I would also pull off the back panel from the tray rack and check that all the wires are firmly in place and not loose. Hope that helps
YT is playing games. I posted a link on how you can make your own ricotta in the foodi. Now its gone. You’ll have to search for it cause apparently we cant post links anymore. 😕
Sorry I have had to set my comments to require approval for links. This is because you would be surprised at how many porn or undesirable links get posted in comments. Repost your link and I check the held comments regularly. I will approve it when I check it out.
John, what was the time in the freeze dryer?
About 50 hours. BUT that is with a lot of added time due to work schedule
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We learn as much from our failures as we do from our successes. But seriously, I will be watching more of your videos.
Thank you 😊
Thank you 🙏. Great video !
I just ordered my Freeze Dryer and I'm scouring the internet for ideas. Thank you very much.
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Great video 😊
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