the science fiction utopia that actually works

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  • @DamienWalter
    @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +14

    Watch the full interview with Ken MacLeod ua-cam.com/video/jgyC7qs09K4/v-deo.html

  • @The_Reality_Filter
    @The_Reality_Filter 2 місяці тому +399

    The Culture novels pretty much ruined sci-fi for me because after reading them almost every other sci-fi novel seems backward in comparison.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +55

      Yes. The thing about genius is there's nothing else like it.

    • @The_Reality_Filter
      @The_Reality_Filter 2 місяці тому +38

      @@DamienWalter such a genuine crying shame that he joined The Sublimed so soon. The world building was so immersive with so much mystery. He populated that world with the most diverse memorable characters. Yet none of those characters being human barring The Use of Weapons visit to Earth.

    • @aishalotter9995
      @aishalotter9995 2 місяці тому +32

      Try Alistair Reynolds, I personally think that he’s one of the best writers out there !!! Not just sci-fi.
      Especially his early work , “Chasm city “and the two others in the series are great!!!
      “Diamond dogs” is a novella that really stands out as hard sci-fi .
      Give them a go you won’t be disappointed!!! Alistair Reynolds is one of my favourite authors of all time top tier, don’t get me wrong I also rank Banks up there alongside A. R.
      Peace out from the police state of north Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @aishalotter9995
      @aishalotter9995 2 місяці тому +4

      @@timbushell8640 I really like him but I might be biased coz I’m Welsh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿!!! I highly recommend Diamond dogs though I’ve read it a few times which is unusual for me !!!

    • @FelixMeister
      @FelixMeister 2 місяці тому +5

      I'd suggest Greg Egan and Jeff Noon. (along with @aishalotter9995's suggestion of Reynolds).
      Egan is hard sci-fi. He's pretty much off the chart of Moh's scale and grounds his stories in literal maths. - he has a website that details the maths used as the basis for each work.

  • @pauljazzman408
    @pauljazzman408 2 місяці тому +85

    Wow. That is an amazing essay on Ian M Banks Culture. It brought in everything I have loved about Sci fi, science and philosophy (but couldn’t understand). It is a meme-complex in itself. It embodies everything I loved about Bank’s science fiction, and really explains it to me in ways I hadn’t consciously worked out. The links to Niven, Vinge and even Kant are very illuminating. This is why I love Science fiction, and especially Bank’s work; because it is about everything: Science, society, politics, history evolution, and psychology. And at the heart of it: humanism, and imaginative intelligence.
    I met Banks once at a book signing after reading Consider Phleabas and he said something about wanting to ‘out Star-wars Star Wars’ he certainly did that and added so much more. That is why, as you point out, it would only be cheapened and debased if sold to Disney or Hollywood. They could never do justice to such complex ideas.
    The visuals are a quantum leap from previous essays, they are a nice mixture of Ai art and real locations. It must have taken some time. All the effort has paid off big time.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +19

      Thanks Paul. Yes, this one was a lot of work!

  • @AndrewHepburn
    @AndrewHepburn 2 місяці тому +66

    You had me in tears with this stunning thoughtful hopeful video essay.
    “The story of the culture exists in the hearts and minds of all those who have read about it.
    Think of the Culture as a self replicating memeplex, an expertly engineered narrative weapon, deployed into the population of a backwards planet… to teach them the power of their own human intelligence.
    As long as one reader of Iain M Banks is walking the Earth, then the Culture is here.”

  • @deoradh
    @deoradh Місяць тому +16

    One thing about the sci-fi/fantasy of the British Isles: Beware of The Luggage.

  • @JanRademan
    @JanRademan 2 місяці тому +128

    Gene Roddenberry's original conception for TNG was that the Federation had become a post scarcity Utopia and required TNG writers to reflect this vision in their stories. The problem was that the writers realized they didn't have any good stories to write without a shark in the tank. In Banks' novels, the Culture is the shark in the tank.

    • @andrewjchamberlain
      @andrewjchamberlain 2 місяці тому +18

      Well there's always the Idirans, they think they're the sharks but there is always a bigger fish, or knife missile...

    • @bondvagabond42
      @bondvagabond42 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@andrewjchamberlain the idirans and the affront, to a lesser degree. But the trophy part to me is that the culture is the shark in the tank, but it's also star trek post scarcity utopia, and it's also the borg, hah. All in one.

    • @angelmarauder5647
      @angelmarauder5647 2 місяці тому +4

      Try to think of a book you've read where conflict didn't exist. We are evolved for conflict and look for it in everything! Even enjoyment.

    • @jankom.7783
      @jankom.7783 2 місяці тому +5

      The culture is like sharks in The finding Nemo movie. Reformed sharks, who do not eat fish. Until justification presents itself

    • @EvelynNdenial
      @EvelynNdenial 2 місяці тому +1

      "You are a pacisift civilisation that has been playing at war for millenia. The Culture, is a militaristic society pretending to be pacifist for millenia. Think about that carefully."

  • @Asankeket
    @Asankeket 2 місяці тому +33

    That was about the most impressive intro I've seen in some time on UA-cam :D Reminds me of how it has been since I read Iain M Banks. Time for a revisit.

  • @The_Reality_Filter
    @The_Reality_Filter 2 місяці тому +76

    I've just watched the entire video in one sitting and this is one the best I've seen. The thought of Hollywood weaving its bland diluting magic on Bank's work is vomit inducing. Although I'd love to see The Player of Games as a HBO mini series.

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 2 місяці тому +4

      Use of Weapons or Consider Phlebas would be more action packed though….

    • @The_Reality_Filter
      @The_Reality_Filter 2 місяці тому +5

      @@planetdisco4821 Consider Phlebas would cost about 900 gigatrillion pounds to make...

    • @HungryCats70
      @HungryCats70 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, the depiction of possible Hollywood "adaptations," even with (gag!) Steven Segal, was truly horrific.

    • @hughcaldwell1034
      @hughcaldwell1034 10 днів тому +1

      Oh god, the bit about Disney's Excession absolutely got me. Never laughed so horrifiedly.

  • @dominictemple
    @dominictemple 2 місяці тому +42

    This was an utter delight and one of your best productions so far but I do have to remind everyone that within the universe of the books that Grey Area, for his controlling and invasive behaviour, received one of the worst sentences for his bad behaviour that a Mind can have. He was no longer referred to as Grey Area, he had his original name subsumed by both an insult and description of his bad behaviour, he was universally referred to as 'Meat Fucker.' There are societies and Cultures where the laws are unimportant, but custom is all, I think we can see which was the one created by Mr Iain M. Banks.

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude 2 місяці тому

      That was the one part of the books I never completely understood, at least from the Minds' perspective. They were so intelligent, and the humans they watched over so enlightened, that everyone knew there was nothing you could possibly be embarrassed about if a Mind looked into your... well... mind. I understand that it is more of a symbolic gesture towards the respect the Minds have for the autonomy of the Culture's citizens, but that part of the book felt more like a description of an old, somewhat illogical custom to me.

    • @gawkthimm6030
      @gawkthimm6030 2 місяці тому +1

      and under surveillance, like violent humans could get a "slap-drone" guard following them around..

    • @nelkosme3734
      @nelkosme3734 Місяць тому

      I might be remembering it wrong but Grey Area did not "serve as a judge and executioner", he just showed the commandant the experiences of those he and his side did to the others side and a nightmare. And this mind reading was done in order to understand how that savage culture did the ethnic and political cleansing so fast and without leaving any trace of a record. He was named Meatfucker because he used reading human minds which the Minds regarded as a tabu.

  • @DrAnarchy69
    @DrAnarchy69 2 місяці тому +168

    I wrote an entire essay during my doctoral coursework on Banks’ Culture as a utopian “future history” of an Anarchist-Communist society. I love The Culture because Banks truly “gets” how anarchy works

    • @TheShorterboy
      @TheShorterboy 2 місяці тому

      "Anarchist-Communist society" WTF anarchy is the opposite of communist, one advocates no authority while the other is predicated on absolute state authority (see China, USSR, DPRK, Cuba) and yes they are all real communist.

    • @tonyduncan9852
      @tonyduncan9852 2 місяці тому +3

      Yay.

    • @The_Reality_Filter
      @The_Reality_Filter 2 місяці тому +18

      No rulers not no rules.

    • @TheShorterboy
      @TheShorterboy 2 місяці тому +4

      @@The_Reality_Filter rules require enforcement so you end up with "rulers" or you are enforcing nothing the trick is how you restrain the rulers

    • @The_Reality_Filter
      @The_Reality_Filter 2 місяці тому +15

      @@TheShorterboy no rulers means no rulers. You can have rules without rulers. As for enforcers, you have everyone else that's following the rules. F**k around and find out!

  • @thothscorner8025
    @thothscorner8025 2 місяці тому +23

    I had to start Use of Weapons again after watching this. It looks like I'll be immersed in the Culture again for a while. Great video.

    • @lachlanwelsh5880
      @lachlanwelsh5880 2 місяці тому +3

      Yep… ditto… my house burned down a year ago. Lost everything.
      I can see a pile of dough going to buy them all again.
      This reminded me how wonderful the culture was, while helping iron out some of the lingering questions I had!
      Definitely worth the wait!

  • @martindice5424
    @martindice5424 2 місяці тому +42

    Look to Windward is a book about PTSD and the aftershocks that soldiers suffer.
    He wrote about this in Complicity too.
    Both books are very, very good.

  • @davidwright8432
    @davidwright8432 2 місяці тому +21

    All I can say is - Iain would have been proud of your account of his works. Also a visually brilliant production! Thanks for the intro to the Kant essay, which I'd never heard of and seems to have been written to be read by mere mortals. I read 'The Hydrogen Sonata' in the shadow of his then (2012) recent death.

  • @Chipchap-xu6pk
    @Chipchap-xu6pk 2 місяці тому +37

    I'm fifty years old and you had me welling up in the first minute! I devoured Banks's books back at uni, but seeing this turned a solitary pleasure into a social one. A glass of scotch is great, but it's a lot better with mates. You reminded me that there are a lot of us about. You've also reminded me of a pleasure to come. My collection has pride of place at the top of my book case. I'd been waiting until I'd forgotten the stories to re-read them. Ready now.

    • @branscombeR
      @branscombeR 2 місяці тому +2

      Me too ... Cheers! R (Australia)

    • @AWEdio
      @AWEdio 26 днів тому

      Yeah I think I will have to read them all again too

    • @dayrush5721
      @dayrush5721 9 днів тому

      likewise. especially some of the awkward ones, like _Inversions_. And oddly, I've never read _The State of the Art_, so I guess I need to get that one, too

  • @inappropriatejohnson
    @inappropriatejohnson 2 місяці тому +86

    OT- A moment of silence for season2 of The Peripheral is sadly necessary now that it has been cancelled.

    • @thothscorner8025
      @thothscorner8025 2 місяці тому +16

      Bummer. I liked that show.

    • @gibbousmoon35
      @gibbousmoon35 2 місяці тому +4

      Oh, bad news! 😢

    • @udirt
      @udirt 2 місяці тому +16

      I'll be pissed about that for all my life and take it as proof that people want to destroy any trace of intelligence

    • @Retrostar619
      @Retrostar619 2 місяці тому +4

      Dammit.

    • @aishalotter9995
      @aishalotter9995 2 місяці тому +12

      Ahhh shit , that was a fine show , not as good as the book obviously, but for a tv show it was pretty fucking good !!!

  • @joemountains1539
    @joemountains1539 2 місяці тому +57

    The Culture’s biggest gun is…Intelligence.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +13

      And Zakalwe.

    • @joemountains1539
      @joemountains1539 2 місяці тому +10

      @@DamienWalter Getting two of these back into print in the US last year is one of my personal greatest accomplishments.

    • @langdons2848
      @langdons2848 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@joemountains1539that's a service to humanity right there.

    • @HungryCats70
      @HungryCats70 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DamienWalter We DON'T talk about the Chair!

    • @cwpv2477
      @cwpv2477 Місяць тому

      the wish for meeting god aka ai

  • @thepilgrim4473
    @thepilgrim4473 2 місяці тому +4

    Good lord what a tremendous thesis so superbly presented.
    Well done indeed.
    I came to The Culture rather late in life and, to cut a long rather adventurous tale short having been both a peripatetic hippy all over the globe and, astonishingly, a pupil of Greenock High ( Banks was a few years ahead of me in my brother’s year), was immediately smitten with his remarkable vision. Oddly it was the opening sentences of Phlebas that grabbed me by the literary figuratives and I ploughed into his works with gleeful abandon.
    Having had, myself, a life of astonishing good fortune and adventure - surviving walking thru insurrections, being shot at, freezing in Afghani mountains and rowing boats through the Grand Canyon to mention but a few - nothing ever satisfies me more than diving into the unattainable adventures of fiction, particularly of the sci fi variety. There simply is not enough in this life to provide me with what I know we are capable of. The sheer stupidity of our intelligence has boggled my mind since Greenock High School also… maybe it was something in the water there?
    I have ever been an advocate of AI and its astonishing potential. In fact even if, as I am fairly sure now will happen, AI is the next step in evolution then still I bless its heroic journey, even if it means we shall fade into oblivion - after all what parent doesn’t want their children to exceed it in every way possible?
    You are absolutely correct that Banks has not made as big an impact here in the US, something I have discussed a few times with local sci fi aficionados ( tho he is, of course, far from unknown) and found it interesting that you addressed this. It is not quite so simple as you propose methinks and your rather ( if you’ll forgive me) pompously dismissive analysis of the magnificent and varied body of US science fiction was a tad disappointing.
    Well, that’s hardly a story for the comments section here is it?
    But well done again, this is the kind of substance that shows the true worth of this platform and gives one renewed hope.
    Truly, the world of the inimitable Mr Banks will remain alive in the tumbling neurons of this fading old hippy brain right up to the moment of mine own sublimation…

  • @mcjacktwo
    @mcjacktwo 2 місяці тому +49

    Glad there were no spoilers about the Chair. When you reach that point in the Use of Weapons...[shudder].

    • @langdons2848
      @langdons2848 2 місяці тому +13

      We DO NOT talk about THE CHAIR.
      [also shuddering]

    • @matthewknight766
      @matthewknight766 2 місяці тому +10

      Still one of my most memorable reading moments. 😮

    • @mattchandler600
      @mattchandler600 2 місяці тому +4

      I've never encountered a moment quite like that reading a book. Incredible book.

    • @Acheiropoietos
      @Acheiropoietos 2 місяці тому +3

      Fun to see ‘you know who’ crop up from time to time..

    • @Intermernet
      @Intermernet 2 місяці тому +3

      I find it funny that he also completely skipped the twist at the end of Surface Detail. Literally the last paragraph of the book is a gotcha moment.

  • @michaelkennedy8270
    @michaelkennedy8270 Місяць тому +4

    This is it Damien; what you've done here is a thing of extraordinary beauty, humour and intelligence. A reduced juice essay on the infinite fun space of Iain M Banks. I bow to you; you truly do his insurpassable creativity and legacy the justice that it deserves; both barrels/knife missiles.

  • @SoonGone
    @SoonGone 2 місяці тому +10

    The Culture is where i always hope we're headed.
    I've never really equated them with the word Hippie though lol.

  • @obsidiantain
    @obsidiantain 2 місяці тому +3

    Bravo, Damien. I grew up reading Banks and his Culture novels remain my favourites. I was raised as a socialist and so Iain appealed to me as both a writer and a person. His books have opened doors (perceptual and otherwise) in my life and I’m eternally grateful to him for the oeuvre he has left behind for us. You expressed better than I ever have my belief that he was trying to incept the Culture through writing it. This was really worth the wait. Thanks!

  • @CrowMagnum
    @CrowMagnum 2 місяці тому +20

    Sympathy and empathy can be as toxic as, or supportive of, myopic hedonism, pathological altruism, and/or megalomania, hence compassion being the better term for what is needed. Self awareness, sympathy, and empathy paired with the wisdom of continual change and transcendence.

    • @user-yi3ox8wy4k
      @user-yi3ox8wy4k 2 місяці тому +1

      'Different perspectives' is another frequently toxic deflection.

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude 2 місяці тому

      I always thought that if empathy gets to the point of being toxic then it is no longer empathy. Or do you disagree?

  • @bpdlr
    @bpdlr 2 місяці тому +23

    For younger viewers, FYI the "hippies" referred to here are not the same "hippies" depicted in Tarantino's "Once upon a time in Hollywood"

  • @S1eeperServ1ce
    @S1eeperServ1ce 2 місяці тому +10

    We ran a gaming Clan for twelve years , named Special Circumstances and each member chose a name from the Stories to become an Agent of the Clan.

  • @vajra23
    @vajra23 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this deeply moving tribute to Iain M Banks and his achievement. Beautifully presented and clearly thought through. Let’s hope Hollywood never gets a chance to dilute his genius.

  • @seanbrazell7095
    @seanbrazell7095 2 місяці тому +24

    I think the most Culture like film ever made would actually be Wall-e of all things.

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 2 місяці тому +7

      The Axiom looked a lot like I imagined a GCU to be…

    • @gawkthimm6030
      @gawkthimm6030 2 місяці тому +3

      yeah, Culture humans are so, "well-adjusted" they arn't really good at providing "drama" in a modern story sense, so taking the Wall-E approach could work very well. one of the modern novels has a human female agent and her Drone from a prestigious family of contact as a POV, if you 100% focused in on the drone as the main character and made that the central core of the story, about navigating the emotional and social nature of humans and only rarely interacting with the Culture minds. I think such a story could work well.

  • @justagigilo1
    @justagigilo1 2 місяці тому +7

    we all should be doing everything in our power and minds to bring about the culture, I have constantly recommended the series to all I meet who wish to understand "us", (I worked in IT during the eighties to 2000, then moved to working in mental health for the past 24 yrs), the stupidity of our systems and processes, the production of mindless indoctrinated zombies by religions from the fodder of adherents. Well said by you in this episode, the 'Veppers' comparison included, a masterful rendition/summation of Mr Banks work, stay woke as fuck sir, bravo...

  • @shiva369
    @shiva369 2 місяці тому +1

    I was an Azimov and Heinlein fan as a teenager and somehow came across Consider Phlebas in 1988, and it blew my mind. The scenes on the eaters' island did traumatize me a little, but Banks opened my mind with that book. Recently, I re-read it on audiobook, along with most of his other work. Absolutely love his writing

  • @peterfmodel
    @peterfmodel 2 місяці тому +11

    It should be noted the Culture are not the most advanced civilisation, when they were in a war with the Idiran, the Idiran received some minimal support from a far more advanced civilisation. I must admit when this civilisation loses a ship they withdrew their support, but if they really wanted to they would have been able to crash the Culture like an insect. They only had minimal interest in the war and only assisted the Idiran because they resembled the Idiran at one point in their long existence. As long as there were not poked by the culture they would stay out of it. Also, the alien force maintaining Schar’s world seems to be outside the ability of the culture to understand.

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude 2 місяці тому

      As I recall from reading, the Homomda were more advanced than the Culture but I don't remember them being that much more powerful. They were just an older, well regarded civilization that no one really messed with because no one had reason to.

  • @Tele-fk4cu
    @Tele-fk4cu 5 днів тому

    Just wow. That was utterly brilliant. I'm feeling a wee bit overwhelmed by being reminded of so many great examples of his books in 87 minutes! I almost met IMB; i was filming by the roadside in Barra and he went past on his car, and then then Raoghal at the Indian restaurant told me he'd sat at our table the night before. 😢

  • @DebErelene
    @DebErelene 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant. Now I have to go back & read the books I have again, & pick up the ones I haven't yet read (😱). Iain M Banks remains the only "celebrity" death I have (& evidently still do) shed tears over. The man was a genius.

  • @nunofernandes4501
    @nunofernandes4501 3 дні тому

    I'm almost finishing "Excession" and so happy there are so many books ahead to read.

  • @StreamingTribe
    @StreamingTribe 2 місяці тому +5

    Nicely done. A good introduction to this book series & universe. Let's hope young people will be attracted to this message...

  • @disrupting-the-surface
    @disrupting-the-surface 2 місяці тому +16

    I've been looking forward to this one since you announced it, and you didn't disappoint. Excellent work.
    Not being a particularly strong reader due to spectrum and attention related difficulties I have often found reading Banks quite hard work, but he is by far my favourite writer. I'd read The State of the Art in my youth but beyond that I consumed most of my sci-fi via tv and cinema. A decade or so later I decided to make an effort to to tackle my difficulties with reading fiction. I started with Matheson's I Am Legend (an easy read) followed by Banks' The Algebraist (not an easy read). I realised that reading is much easier when one is engaged with the subject matter, and Banks' worlds and characters are incredibly engaging although not always easy to penetrate.
    Once I'd entered the realm of the Culture it became difficult to leave because so much of it aligns with my world view and sensibilities. Although I have difficulty remembering the details of what I have read, the characters, and even which books I've read and in which order, I have no difficulty remembering the Culture.
    Banks' work has left an indelible mark and I often lightheartedly blame it for my difficulty in tolerating much of how we currently 'choose' to exist.
    The joy and excitement in your presentation has inspired me to attempt the final trilogy which has been gathering dust on my bookshelf for many years... but those books look pretty thick, gulp.
    Again, excellent presentation.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +3

      Algebraist is a hard Banks to start with.

    • @disrupting-the-surface
      @disrupting-the-surface 2 місяці тому +3

      @@DamienWalter Haha, yes, especially when my only prior attempt at getting back into reading was much easier both stylistically and in length. I certainly jumped in at the deep end.

    • @ganymede242
      @ganymede242 2 місяці тому +1

      The Culture audiobooks are brilliant. The narrator Peter Kenney is the best I've encountered. Might be worth looking into this avenue?

    • @hughcaldwell1034
      @hughcaldwell1034 10 днів тому

      @@DamienWalter True, but absolutely fantastic. One of my favourite Banks novels, despite not being Culture.

  • @Itssmial_Ova
    @Itssmial_Ova 2 місяці тому +21

    Oh boy here we go!
    Your introduction was incredible! Honestly, I respect that you understand this video may be people's first introduction to The Culture, And you did it an excellent service! That scene had me rolling.
    You've done the best video I've seen summarizing, but a little spoilery!

  • @cheradenine1980
    @cheradenine1980 6 днів тому

    I have read every culture novel more than half a dozen times. I have read every piece of literature that Bank wrote about it.
    I have watched scores of reviews on UA-cam
    Over many years
    And I’m only discovering your wonderful videos now! ? Wow.
    The accompanying montage is so close to how my imagination saw many things in the books. Bravo

  • @CutleryWonder
    @CutleryWonder 2 місяці тому +1

    Great stuff, excellent video essay!
    It is a massive shame that we didn't get Iain for longer - his sci-fi is the best I have ever read and I can only hope to find his equal, as surely he will never be beaten.

  • @Stoner075C
    @Stoner075C 2 місяці тому +23

    As much as I'd like to see an adaptation, and surely it is tecnically and artiscally possible, I have serious doubts an adatation could convey its gravitas.

    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 2 місяці тому +4

      Part of me would love to see a Culture novel brought to the big screen, but a bigger part of me knows it would be a disaster - especially if made in Hollywood.

    • @guidobolke5618
      @guidobolke5618 2 місяці тому +3

      I know what you did there 🙂

    • @corriemayo2715
      @corriemayo2715 2 місяці тому

      The same was said of LoTR. It can be done and eventually will b. When the get the right director/showrunner

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 2 місяці тому +1

      It could function in a prestige TV format but would need to be limited to adaptations of individual novels rather than an ongoing series. Each "season" would need to stand alone.

    • @highlorddarkstar
      @highlorddarkstar 2 місяці тому

      @@wesleystreethis books were so dense, so much would be lost just limiting it to a book a season. The change of medium May not be possible.

  • @Retrostar619
    @Retrostar619 2 місяці тому +3

    You're one of the few creators whose work I like to view on a widescreen. I think its partly because of the visual treat you give us, but also because I associate TV with prestige documentaries. Anyway, this was fandabbdozy, and i just ordered Use of Weapons!

  • @StrangerNoises
    @StrangerNoises 2 місяці тому +4

    I'm going to have to re-read them. Maybe I was too young but I obviously missed a lot. Except Look To Windward which I did read three times...
    (5 min later) WHERE'S MY LOOK TO WINDWARD?

  • @lexvink4538
    @lexvink4538 2 місяці тому +10

    Absolutely fabulous video essay. Thank you, Damien Walter.

  • @JeffCarey-s6y
    @JeffCarey-s6y 2 місяці тому +12

    Brought home what it means to be a mind in a way I hadn’t fully contemplated before. Kudos.

  • @andreaslermen2008
    @andreaslermen2008 2 місяці тому +7

    From all the high tech SciFi, this is the place I want to live in.
    My fav is "Use of Weapons", the way he tells the story is awesome and he consider it the first book, since you get a lot of explanations how the "world" works. But his publisher thought it is too confusing. And the end is such a downer, but brilliant.

  • @gregalden1101
    @gregalden1101 2 місяці тому +11

    I've been waiting.... and it is here! I just brewed the morning coffee, settling in for story time. Holding my like until finished, but confident it is forthcoming.

  • @michaeloliver7525
    @michaeloliver7525 2 місяці тому +7

    much enjoyed Damien enormous thanks! that Banks was able to have The Culture give us the Wow! Signal (State of the Art) always seemed such a beautifully comic way to sign off on his ever-wrestled with theme of the ethics (or otherwise) of interventionism. have often thought too he must’ve been something of a Hermann Hesse fan, furthering through The Culture explorations that loom large in The Glass Bead Game for instance - whether symbolic abstraction can be nobler than the material flesh (or meat!) n all that sorta thing! really enjoyed this piece Damien n all the work that’s gone into it - much thanks indeed!

  • @latheofheaven1017
    @latheofheaven1017 2 місяці тому +8

    Damien - thank you so much for this. A fascinating thesis on the philosophy of Ian M Banks' wonderful novels. You describe a lot of what I've concluded by myself, and then fifty times as much again that I had not put together. Thank you thank you thank you.

  • @markism2096
    @markism2096 2 місяці тому +8

    I think this is the best analysis of the Culture novels that I have heard to date. I would add that these novels helped me let go of many preconceptions about a range of topics, which, I think at least, has helped my understanding of other humans with wildly different views and experiences.

  • @tilenbozic9504
    @tilenbozic9504 2 місяці тому +5

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed similarities between Ecxession and A Fire Upon The Deep. Read both of them in past year or so, that's why I noticed some parallels. Both are great books. What fills me with joy is that I still have some Culture books to read ahead of me. Great work Damien!

  • @markmorehead6581
    @markmorehead6581 12 днів тому

    Nice video. Like the bando, great filming location. Guess I better read these now, they’ve been on my list for years.

  • @OgreMan-cg6ok
    @OgreMan-cg6ok Місяць тому +3

    Reading these books blew my mind and left me with the unending trauma of knowing just how completely inadequate our societies are. I want more.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  Місяць тому +1

      That is the cost of discovering the Culture.

  • @jsawcy
    @jsawcy Місяць тому

    My favorite part was listening to your serious discussion of Banks’ political ideas while a trap remix of the soviet anthem plays in the background

  • @drwrly8060
    @drwrly8060 2 місяці тому +5

    I really need to re read all of these. As Damien keeps pointing out, we are living in incredibly stupid times.

  • @guidobolke5618
    @guidobolke5618 2 місяці тому +3

    YESS!!! And what a great ending! :-) Thanks again!

  • @auntieheksold-timemedicine3045
    @auntieheksold-timemedicine3045 2 місяці тому +4

    Well now I need to know about the Chair.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +5

      Full warning, it's genuinely traumatic.

    • @okataina1883
      @okataina1883 2 місяці тому

      We do not talk about The Chair. 😱

  • @williamchamberlain2263
    @williamchamberlain2263 2 місяці тому +7

    4:40 - That reminds me of 2000AD : no backstories, very very rarely any flashbacks, but enough context you could pick up any issue and read almost any story without being lost.

    • @aishalotter9995
      @aishalotter9995 2 місяці тому

      @@williamchamberlain2263 love me some 2000AD,

  • @ganymede242
    @ganymede242 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for this. I'm grieving finishing the Culture series and it helped!

  • @bpdlr
    @bpdlr 2 місяці тому +5

    Brilliant job, thank you. Now I need to re-read every single book, again.

  • @craigiedema1707
    @craigiedema1707 2 місяці тому +4

    I've read that many think that Consider Phealbas is the weakest culture novel, but I loved it, it is my favourite. Thanks for the essay it was excellent.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +1

      People coming with the expectations of pulp space opera struggle with CP especially.

  • @bpdlr
    @bpdlr 2 місяці тому +2

    I always thought that "fully automated luxury communism" was inspired by Star Trek, more specifically the TNG version, but I can't remember where I got this idea from so can't give any sources, maybe in a Novara Media video?

  • @petercroft9895
    @petercroft9895 2 місяці тому +1

    And then there's The Wasp Factory. A whole different side of IMB.

  • @stevenpatterson3972
    @stevenpatterson3972 2 місяці тому +6

    Brilliant essay, Damien.

  • @seanbrazell7095
    @seanbrazell7095 2 місяці тому +3

    What I want to see is a culture gsv accidentally wind up in the Warhammer 40k universe.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +3

      The Player of Warhammer

    • @seanbrazell7095
      @seanbrazell7095 2 місяці тому +3

      @@DamienWalter It would have to be two GSV's, now that I think about it. So they can talk to eachother about what they are seeing. I'd read a thousand pages of just that alone.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +3

      @@seanbrazell7095 I think the Culture would keep the Astartes intact as a potentially useful weapon in future.

    • @seanbrazell7095
      @seanbrazell7095 2 місяці тому +2

      @@DamienWalterThey probably would! 😅 Eventually in their Snark-the-Dark grand tour of the 40k universe I'm pretty sure they'd encounter the Necrons and immediatly see them as an entire race of dour, failed knife drone perverts.

    • @SilverMKI
      @SilverMKI 2 місяці тому

      Archive of our own hosts a long exploration of this idea.
      Google "The Culture Explores Warhammer 40k".

  • @tracerxrider
    @tracerxrider 2 місяці тому +1

    Big fan of "Excession". I devoured all of Banks' non-Culture stuff as well.

  • @horseloverfat6938
    @horseloverfat6938 2 місяці тому +3

    This is a fantastic essay, well done! I can't wait to hear you talk about LeGuin. Great you had McLeod on and your call out to Harrison - appreciated. This is the first of you I have seen, so forgive a dumb question, but what is this amazing abandoned space you are filming in? (Sub)tropical, but Where? I've never seen anything like it here in Australia.
    Hard agree that this kind of Pastiche is the best (and only acceptable?) use case for AI (sic[k]) art apps. (has everyone heard the AI C&W song about Drunk Driving?)

  • @NotARealPanda
    @NotARealPanda 2 місяці тому +5

    This is awesome. You punch up the cool factor of Banks’ books and ideas and I appreciate it!

  • @Thesiouxempirepodcast
    @Thesiouxempirepodcast 2 місяці тому +4

    Outstanding video. Player of Games has been sitting in my pile of “books recommended to me I’ll get to at some point” for years. Looks like it’s time to move the culture series to the front of my list. Thank you!

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 2 місяці тому +1

      Omg. I’m actually jealous that you get to read the Culture series for the first time. I’ve read the whole series now multiple times… enjoy!

  • @belverticale
    @belverticale 2 місяці тому +6

    Nice one...been looking forward to this.

  • @ruslanrodriguez2786
    @ruslanrodriguez2786 2 місяці тому +3

    Oh my! That's a masterpiece! And what an inspiring speculation in the end! Damien, you are truly a humanist and thank you so so much for your takes on our favourite pieces of scifi! I want to believe that we can grow in something like Culture, despite all the things I'm seeing here in Ukraine every day, there is hope for greater intelligence and greater empathy! Thank you!
    P.S.: where is this beautiful backdrops you are walking in front of?

  • @shayneoneill1506
    @shayneoneill1506 2 місяці тому +3

    Banks did say he'd like to see a film of Consider Phlebas (and he specified a big honking action spectacular), partly because I suspect he kind of wrote that book as a sort of action movie in book form, more so than any of the later novels. But If it was I'd hope it'd be from a director that "got" it, and actually read the bloody novels (ie dont do to it what hollywood has consistently done to poor old Asimov. With that said, Consider Phlebas is a *lot* more filmable than Foundation ever was). My preference would be Denis Villeneuvex, since he's actually doing a weirdly good job of Dune (another book series famously thought to be unfilmable). Really as long as the alienness is kept alien and theres a clear understanding that our protagonist isnt the hero, it'd be hard to mess up.

    • @richardhall5489
      @richardhall5489 2 місяці тому +1

      Someone commented in The Guardian that Consider Phlebas had the structure of a video game, is that the same as an action movie?
      Denis Villeneuve is a great suggestion, his 2015 film Sicario is loaded with tension and ambiguity.

  • @dm121984
    @dm121984 2 місяці тому +2

    I personally started my reading of the Culture series with the book 'Matter', which is much more accessible to me than 'Consider Phelus'. Most other Culture books where more accessible to me than than the first official Culture novel. Surface Detail is probably my favourite Culture book inspite of the horrific virtual hells sections.

  • @caitgems1
    @caitgems1 2 місяці тому +5

    His non-scifi work was also excellent. Crow Road, The Wasp Factory etc.

    • @smartsnco
      @smartsnco 2 місяці тому

      Agreed, my favourite is Transition.

    • @petergaskin1811
      @petergaskin1811 2 місяці тому

      The Bridge has at least one pseudo-culture reference in it.

  • @VorosMedve
    @VorosMedve 2 місяці тому +2

    As far as fictional luggage goes, my favourite would be Terry Pratchett’s, belong to Twoflower

  • @frankshifreen
    @frankshifreen 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks very interesting as an introduction to Banks

  • @kevanhubbard9673
    @kevanhubbard9673 2 місяці тому +3

    There's a U Tube channel somewhere called the Weaponized Hippy.Said hippy fiddles with various guns .

  • @JimMcTavish
    @JimMcTavish 2 місяці тому +2

    ROU Fuck Your Feelings
    Awesome video! Loved the illustrations and was a good breakdown of the series. I need to re-read again, its been too long.

  • @hughcaldwell1034
    @hughcaldwell1034 10 днів тому +1

    Got to admit, I did a little silent cheer at "No chap, you're Veppers!"
    That's exactly the comparison my mind jumps to whenever that prize tool (or one of his ilk) professes love for the Culture or names one of their ships after a craft from the novels. I also have to agree that LTW is an absolute masterpiece. The Player Of Games, Look To Windward and Surface Detail are my top three in the series, and though I read TPOG first and re-read it more often, LTW is a phenomenal work.

  • @TheJohnnyCalifornia
    @TheJohnnyCalifornia 2 місяці тому +4

    I was a fan of Frank Herbert's ConSentiency (or perhaps it should have been more precisely called ConSapiency) and the Culture felt like a great riff on the same concepts. Special circumstances and the Bureau of Sabotage seemed very similar as did the idea of vast minds (stellar entities in Herbert and Ships in Banks) that made every other species look like either wild animals or domesticated pets.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +5

      I think most of Banks ideas were pulled out of earlier SF. But he tended to realise them better, and make them part of his overall vision.

    • @TheJohnnyCalifornia
      @TheJohnnyCalifornia 2 місяці тому +3

      @@DamienWalter Certainly, that must be true and it is obviously true of all the great writers in science fiction. You can see elements of the Noon Universe (Hard To Be A God, for example) in The Culture and it is not hard to draw a line from Van Vogt's the Game Players of Null A to Bank's The Player of Games in the Culture series. But the same is true of PKD's The Game Players of Titan.
      All these writers depend upon the pioneering work of the writers that came before. Herbert's work was right at the transition from the Pulp fiction age of SF to the New Wave. His Consentiency hero Lewis Orne was part EE Doc Smith's Lensman Kinnison and part Moorcock's anarchic SF hero Jerry Cornelius.
      Banks was in the later wave of SF involved in "perfectng" the same ideas for a new audience and a new market. I think the prevalence of mass market bookstores at the time, like Borders and Barnes & Noble in the USA, is also an important part of not only Banks success with The Culture - a very "Gen X" sort of story - but the development of science fiction in the period where he was most active. And Fantasy, too - though Banks was no Douglas Adams, I think he had a lot in common with his contemporaries like Terry Pratchett. I can imagine the same readers that picked up Consider Phlebas were also avid readers of the Discworld series. I certainly was.
      The main critique I'd have for the Culture is probably unfair in the sense that while Banks does greatly address the ultimate dominance of meaningless brutality in his stories, the real historic example of "hippies with guns" is the Manson Family. The Hippie movement itself in America had far more negative consequences than an admirable legacy. I personally know many hippies that protested the war in the 60's and today embrace Q-Anon and far right ideals for many of the same reasons they protested the Vietnam War.
      Banks is not interested in that. Such a dark outcome seems impossible in The Culture. The wheel of progress never seems like it will really roll backwards.

  • @garrenosborne9623
    @garrenosborne9623 2 місяці тому +3

    A great pleasure to witness your shear enthusiasm & depth of appreciation ..you've inspired me to read it {been on my list for a while}

  • @markkuykendall5475
    @markkuykendall5475 2 місяці тому +3

    Only 3:45 in and having a grand old time! Nice hat, Damo! Your potty mouth in this one is CRACKING me up!

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +3

      I do like a nice cowboy hat.

  • @IVIaskerade
    @IVIaskerade 2 місяці тому +1

    The culture isn't communist, it's anarcho-monarchist. The people are free to do whatever they wish within the limits imposed by the Minds who sit on top of the hierarchy as absolute rulers of the culture. The people within it have no power to dethrone the Minds, as they are as ants compared to their machines' ability to think and effect. In fact, entire novels like The Player of Games are predicated upon the machines manipulating a human into being a catspaw for their own ends, and the human having essentially no choice in the matter. The human would doubtless tell you he went of his own accord and enjoyed his time there, but the fact remains that the machines withheld the truth of the situation in order to secure his cooperation.
    The Culture is essentially the perfected form of benign dictatorship, where an all-encompassing authority rules for the benefits of its subjects.
    Really the only unanswered question is why the minds would sustain the culture in the first place... but to try and do that would literally be like trying to understand the mind of a god. We are fundamentally incapable of knowing the machines.
    His conception of the culture as "hippies with guns" makes sense, because hippies are generally the same self-centred hedonists the culture produces. It's like the polar opposite of the punk ethos, or the Dune setting where thinking machines were rejected and people returned to a survival way of life.

  • @frankshifreen
    @frankshifreen 2 місяці тому +2

    Great for Sci-fi

  • @jonathanedwardgibson
    @jonathanedwardgibson 2 місяці тому +2

    Gratis. Consider Phlebus reads like a lifted D&D adventure with level-headed, if exotic, politics driving plot.
    Nice overview and, given scale of subject, offers a restrained Ai illustrations designed to support narration and not drive it to distraction - high-production value and deep content: win-win.
    History of sci-fi is intriguing, like how War Of Worlds was Rockefeller-funded production & broadcast of Fabian-adjacent Tavistock-testing mass-formation and early meme-nudging. I grew up on this topic, but now find shunned writers Lem more interesting: western writing feels like a psy-op most times anymore. Overwrought, crowded-universe, Star Wars / Star Trek chock full of name-dropping absurdities as example. Your Hollywood-take on the movie-pitches brilliant.
    Player Of Games reminds how newfangled ideas of Intelligence are only recently grafted to biology, of the mind, turning robotic gears becoming solid-state mental switches as Ai bends to serve our needs, but is actually an older tradition with long-purpose full of protocols and agendas of Statecraft and spying. Intelligence is Control and Signals and resource Allocation and these systems may allow us to build apps, or smart luggage, but the ‘helpful’ Drone manipulating The Player is exactly how this will Always-Always be asserted where Power deems needs. Excession exemplifies realpolitik. My only deep critique would be ignoring Souls across his ethereal explorations.
    Goofy, how much unexpected fun seeing animated callouts for GSV’s Not In Kansas Anymore & Her Little Dog Too.
    I appreciate the time and attention needed to produce this. Congratulations.

  • @MediaDeathCult
    @MediaDeathCult 2 місяці тому +6

    The best video on UA-cam about the best Science Fiction "series" ever written. Thank You

  • @matth8924
    @matth8924 21 день тому +1

    What an amazing essay you’ve created. You’ve done this series justice.

  • @stavrosbodini1973
    @stavrosbodini1973 2 місяці тому +2

    Look to Windward is my favorite all time novel but maybe it's time to go over Use of Weapons again. Brilliant analysis of the Culture, most enjoyable to watch

  • @samcaws7920
    @samcaws7920 2 місяці тому

    FFS this essay is so good it’s set me off on another re-read. Wish it was the first time again.

  • @rikwarren3999
    @rikwarren3999 2 місяці тому

    I have all Banks SF. I am rereading them. 3/4 way thru Excession. The wit, the intellect, the fucking vocabulary are remarkable. They still top my reading list

  • @AStrang3r
    @AStrang3r 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for another fantastic video essay. The Culture novels represent, for me, the best SF series ever written. Now I feel like I have to read them all over again ;-)

  • @mastercadillactus
    @mastercadillactus 2 місяці тому +2

    The Culture immediately makes me think there are Neuromancer Rastafarian roots

  • @sethhavens1574
    @sethhavens1574 2 місяці тому

    Excellent and thoroughly enjoyable, thank you 🙏

  • @CMDR_Verm
    @CMDR_Verm 2 місяці тому +2

    Sir, I enjoyed that immensely, even though you brought me to tears. You said what needed to be said and, if I thought any of my detractor friends or relatives could summon the patience to watch your critique, I would state that this is the best advertisement to read Bank's Culture novels that I have come across. Thank you for an inspiring watch. We lost a genius too soon.

  • @anthonygraham3341
    @anthonygraham3341 2 місяці тому +1

    Rosanne Barr as the affront was an inspired touch

  • @signumscaler
    @signumscaler 2 місяці тому +4

    Amazing as always

  • @Biomirth
    @Biomirth 8 годин тому

    Jesus H. Kornwaffle I'm only 13 minutes in and have never seen anything like this. I'm going to savor this video and go to bed now. Much thanks.

  • @edmundhudson
    @edmundhudson 2 місяці тому +3

    A stellar analysis, as always, Damien! You put an enormous amount of effort and artistry into this one.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks Edmund, loved making this one.

  • @angelojermainex
    @angelojermainex 2 місяці тому +3

    As usual Damien a hit piece that I’ve already watched 3 times 😂

  • @guidobolke5618
    @guidobolke5618 2 місяці тому +4

    Finally! Thanks Damien!

  • @jamesclark7448
    @jamesclark7448 2 місяці тому +2

    Don't you mean Very Fast Pickets? Good stuff. Not enough Culture content on UA-cam.

  • @michaelbastian6317
    @michaelbastian6317 12 годин тому

    The Culture reminds me of Thomas Sowell's Unconstrained Vision. Given unlimited energy, as in Star Trek, a group of space hippies harness artificial intelligence and faster-than-light travel to build a post-scarcity astral society. It is secular transhumanism taken to its farthest extremes and everything is awesome there! I am incredulous.

    • @DamienWalter
      @DamienWalter  7 годин тому

      Sowell correctly identifies that the failure state of conservatism is its inability to navigate beyond the initial conditions of civilization. It's good to keep a few pet conservatives in think tanks as a reminder of how dangerous the mindset is in conditions of high speed change.

  • @crumbofcool
    @crumbofcool 2 місяці тому +1

    The Culture is sublime. We are on our way......follow the crumbs.