It's fun project but for practicality Linux + Wine is better as you get the stability some popular linux such as Debian + same ability to run windows programs. Since Wine and ReactOS devs share code with each other there wouldn't be any significant differences between them in terms of windows compatibility. I tried some classic gaming and with Warcraft 2 my sound became buggy after few minutes but with real Win XP it was fine.
@@ex-itguy But still even with Linux's better hardware support I wish there were more Wine developers. It feels like they haven't done anything in last 15-20 years. Yes, Proton is something but it seems to be rather hack than proper solution. I would like to see base version of Wine to be where Proton is. In addition I would like to see it support latest .NET, MS Office, Photoshop, etc so that Linux would be actual Windows competitor for end-user and not like Gimp is your new Photoshop now. If Wine was there right now, MS wouldn't be doing anti-consumer things like Recall that you cant even uninstall and that is dependency for explorer because if Wine was decent way more people could switch to Linux.
It's not windows, or Linux. It is somewhere in the middle. I like the idea. They don't have many devs, and making an OS from scratch is a huge undertaking. Mad respect.
@@idcrafter-cgi Yes, application compatibility is one thing. Full driver compatibility is a different story. For full application compatibility, you may need your own kernel though. As an example, Windows has enforced file locks, Linux doesn't.
React OS is such a cool project with so much potential, sadly from what I heard they have some internal issues which is why the main version on the site is so old. Hopefully they sort it out and keep improving soon. Awesome video!
I heard they recently resolved that issue and have plans to release a new version. I think the original problem was that the person in charge didn't want to release a new version with too many known bugs and regressions.
The first ever well done ReactOS video I have looked in to. :DDDDDDD Congratulations, really informative and curious to have Nvidia drivers actually working. No jokes, I am inside of the ReactOS team and... Looks impresive that the Net built in drivers worked and Graphical drivers too. There are few things to comment: The most recent Nvidia drivers have a bug that drops the FPS near to zero, somehow... The old version used to work better. Audio drivers shouldn't work with the current code and needs a refactory, but we are improving slowly that situation, (now audio works under VMs and some old hardware with the AC'97 driver). I hope you had fun testing the OS.
Thank you so much! Awesome to have an actual dev check in! The nvidia driver works quite well, the artifacts could be because of this card, they were absent in the GT930. I hope sound gets fixed soon, that's quite a big part of the whole experience. I did notice sound working in a VM indeed! I did have to reinstall quite a few times because of lockups that made me have to reset the machine and leaving the OS in a limb. That happened with basic things like unplugging a usb stick (unmounting didn't work so...) All in all I'd love to see some progress on this. Is there anything we n00bs can do to help?
@@Postal2Dude That is not 100% true. 3D accel is supported partially and buggy. This is why ogl-gears or videogames as Simpsons Hit and Run are working.
@@ex-itguy Sorry for the long text. Your experience is really similar that the one that everybody suffered recently under ReactOS. You have faced some bugs that in videogames we would call "soft locks" (like beating Pokemon with an only Magikarp). For example: 1. Driver that installs other .dll or .sys, or even registry entries that are not compatible with ReactOS. 2. Random MM/CC bugs that can corrupt the Filesystem. Both situations can be fixed manually (time and a lot of effort), but for the common user are implying you to redo the ReactOS full setup (fast solution). Okkay, being fair, there is some OLD version of the Nvidia drivers that currently working nicely. But after some code, the drivers are working insanely slow. USB stack needs the last thing: The hot unplugging to be supported. And some support with the low level formatting tools (and tools like Rufus and that to work). You are a good tester, you could help to point better where some bugs are failing. That will help to polish ReactOS. Also you can help with translations, as tutorial maker, reactos appmanager database maintainer, etc
@Julenuri I don't think I can find the time to really participate, but a little testing and bugreporting I could surely do. I'll also make a post about this, maybe some people see it and chime in. It would be great to see this project thrive! :)
This is still a work in progress and really only good for experimenting and hobbyists. The lack of development and community support means that this will not be usable as a daily driver for the foreseeable future.
I really like the concept of ReactOS! Must be frustrating to reverse engineer something like Windows! Coming from someone who is more successful with hardware than software I completely understand why they are taking a while getting this together! I wouldn't know where to start!
There has been occasions where ReactOS could have gotten a lot more development support if more companies knew about it (and weren't, in general, cowards). When companies were scrambling because they knew WindowsXP was going out of support in 12-18 months (yes, companies did have that much time to plan migrations) they could have put some support an resources behind ReactOS to make it a functional replacement for XP, especially for those embedded and control systems. They probably spent a lot MORE having to rework their systems for MSWin7 (in those situations where they *could*) than it would have cost to bring ROS up to speed. The same situation came up again at the EOL for MSWin7, and again they could have made ReactOS a functional replacement for the underlying OS on those systems (with the added advantage they could pare it down to only what was needed, without the bloat). These are the same companies who will whine about MSWin10 going EOL, but will chicken out, open their nearly-empty wallets, and bend over once again for Microsoft and the HW vendors.
2:45 I'm glad you did a video cut and reversed the IDE cable to match Master and Slave. I was stressing at the screen when I saw you plug the end of the cable into the CD-Rom set as slave. Yes I'm old. This OS gives me Lindows flashbacks 😁
With AI taking over the Internet I almost mistook it for AI I am glad you're using your real voice and I am speaking to real people this AI generation sucks man.
Thanks! Being a voice actor I can't say I'm happy with all the ai stuff haha My voice doesn't sound too good these weeks thanks to some virus though, but it'll have to do. :)
I would love to make this my Windows replacement OS. I'm still hanging on to my Windows 7 for dear life as I refuse to "upgrade" any newer integrated spyware featured Windows OS from our Microsoft overlords. I have actually committed to donating $5 a month to this project several months ago, in hopes that project will eventually be a serious contender. I seriously hope a lot more people will contribute towards this project. And no, I have no affiliation with them. I'm just a guy who doesn't want my OS spying on my activities, policing my files, and secretly reporting everything back to headquarters. I have lost all faith and trust with Microsoft after Windows 7, and even with Windows 7, I have a some concerns on what it might be collecting from me. Also, I hope this project NEVER integrates AI into it. If it was made as an optional add-on, then that would be okay because then we could still choose to not have it.
If the developers can hone in on this OS, this could be a great alternative to Windows. We can leave Ubuntu for MacOS users who have left the apple garden walls behind. Although, if I'm being honest, making anything from Microsoft work outside Windows is a tall order.
I'm impressed the nvidia drivers worked. Although that's probably a configuration they specifically assured worked because of how ubiquitous the hardware is, but it still had to be a lot of work to get that working.
Thanx for the video. I installed on of the nitely builds on a VM and it ran fine with sound though couldn't get the screen resolution to go to 16x9 on 4x3. Couldn't do much with it not even surf the net.
Interesting. I installed it in a VirtualBox VM about a week ago and it works just fine. No 16x9 resolution indeed because it's using a generic vesa driver, but browsing works quite well.
IDE can have two max, but only one at a time can "talk", so the dvd drive and harddisk constantly have to wait for each other. SCSI didn't have that issue but SAS is way faster than the old SCSI bus.
I do enjoy watching ReactOS UA-cam videos whenever they appear in my feed, and it's cool that you ran it on bare metal. I still consider it to be rather useless. It's a reverse engineer of a very old version of Windows, which is by no means practical. It would be cool to run it in PCem since that will allow emulating old hardware, but I don't see how ReactOS can "do" anything practical. It would make more sense to have a reverse-engineered open source Windows 10, but we all know that would require tremendous amount of work, and probably won't happen...the world of operating systems and software compatibility today is already drastically different from 20+ years ago!
I guess you're right, but if they can get better hardware support (and stability...) and modern browser support it could be a decent one for older computers.
yeah people have different needs and reactOS is enough for me sometimes i mean reactOS is amazing let me guess its new linux distro with new or latest linux apps or its not that vintage like mandrake linux which is no available update or no longer supported or no new version released or they change it or giving it new names like mandriva
I still run Windows XP 32-bit via a VM running on my Proxmox server. I don't use it for games or anything like this though, but this is interesting as it is DEFINITELY a throw back to either Win95/Win98(SE)/Win2k era. I can imagine just how blazing fast it'd be though if your gave it some really modern hardware.
It's a bit hit or miss on hardware though, I guess I got lucky with this Pentium 4. the installer wouldn't run on a core2quad machine. On my P3 laptop I can't get any drivers in without crashing. Haven't tried it on anything really modern though. :)
Leuke video! Ik denk persoonlijk dat ReactOS nog een lange weg heeft te gaan, maar het is wel een leuk project! Hoewel er iets niet klopt in deze video... De gpu driver dat werkt op ReactOS zonder dat het hele systeem crasht??? Kan niet 😂
Hahaha, ja daar was ik ook verbaasd over. Gelukkig crashte hij wel bij een andere driver 🤣 Was je blij met het IDE stuk? Speciaal voor jou gedaan omdat je laatst zei bij elke video wel iets te leren. 😄
@ex-itguy Dat IDE stuk wist ik inderdaad nog niet, daar was ik blij mee :) Ik wist wel wat het was en ik heb nog een laptop IDE schijf liggen maar ik wist niet dat je 2 schijven met èèn kabel kon gebruiken door èèn op master te zetten en èèn op slayer met een stukje plastiek!
Nou nou een weetje dan: wat ik deed, de harddisk en dvd speler op dezelfde kabel, is niet ideaal qua performance omdat maar 1 apparaat tegelijk kan 'praten' over IDE. Dus als je een cd in de drive stopt dan vertraagd dat de harde schijf. In oudere systemen zou je daarom dus de speler en harddisk niet op dezelfde poort zetten, maar die optie had ik hier niet. Ik denk dat ik er een sata ssd in ga hangen. Voor de video was dit wel even leuk echter. :)
I remember installing ReactOS on a spare Pentium III machine and playing around with it in the mid 2000's, I know I got bored with it pretty quickly, the OS felt too much like a demo type with not much going on. Things I did like was it looked similar to windows 98 and ran fast, so didn't need a suped up PC to run it.
This one indeed is, the first ones weren't though. But I guess you're referring to the fact I downloaded the 32 bit variant of ReactOS? The 64 bit build simply didn't work.
GREAT - THANKS !! What is the memory usage ?? I have here an old DELL Dimension 2400 with Pentium 1 Core CPU and 1 GB RAM. Want to give a working system to poor people so they have a computer. Can you help me out ?? You can answer me in Dutch ....
Oof, don't give anyone a system with ReactOS at this point. It's really not ready. Depending on their needs Haiku might be nice (I have a video on that too), or simply a Linux distro, but you might want a bit more memory to run a decent distro.
Don't be, you're right about that. But XP is old and unsafe to connect to the internet whilst ReactOS is at least still maintained. For now it's mostly for hobbyists though.
Looks like jumping in a time machine and going back to the early 2000s. It's a shame it's so flaky but it's a huge undertaking. I hope MS don't sue them.
I would like to think that after a few decades MS should be aware of this project haha. But they make very sure not to use any actual Windows code, so I don't think there is anything to sue about.
something that's been around since 1998, I don't think deserves the leniency to be called just "a work in progress" -- I think it's safe to call it a mediocre product or just call it nothing at all. Let's see ONE critical piece of software that this is running for businesses and solving their work processes with more safety than running windows 95, 98 or XP. I want to see that use case and frankly that should just be exploited with it.
Fast mention on this one, but You should definitely not be using a Packard Bell machine for ANY kind of OS testing ... They used their own proprietary hardware on the boards, and it cause tons of problems with drivers back in the older Windows days. They were great games machines with rel Windows, but only when You went to the actual PBell support site & downloaded the board drivers & overlays for installation right after the initial Windows install itself. Anything without the custom drivers at the board level would just not run the hardware correctly, & it didn't support the current DirectX or slot tech properly. G'Luck!!!
I think the disk cradle is missing, at the bottom of the front face, where you can see two tabs with two holes... Or these two tabs were used directly to screw the disk... I Own a packard Bell mini-tower from this era, in which the - now SSD - drive is screwed vertically in the front.
That's what I thought at first, but 3.5" disk just fits there without a cradle. It just wasn't an option to put the ide disk there. But a disk with dead sectors should be destroyed anyway. This video is meant for people who destroy perfectly fine disks.
I would recommend Linux mint cinnamon for daily use (word documents, Firefox browsing, movies, music etc) and Bazzite for gaming. Bazzite comes with pre-installed software (Linux proton and Linux wine) which ensures maximum compatibility with windows games. This only true for single player games (The Last of us part 1, cyberpunk 2077, black myth wukong, etc) because they don't have anti cheat. You could install the software yourself on mint, but this is tricky and Bazzite Handle's this for you. Do a dual boot of these OS's and You'll have an easy experience. The GUI means you never have to use the terminal except to fix something.
Master should be at the end of the cable. Even if you jumper the middle one to master and the end device to slave, that is non-standard. By the way, I liked the video, not here to bother you.
Can it work with the latest pc and laptops? When I tried to install Win 10 on a new laptop that came with Win 11, the NVME wasn't recognized and when I tried to use the official external driver, after installing Win 10, every time I restarted the computer I got the blue screen of death. Also, is it 64bit?
I wouldn't expect it to work well. At this moment ReactOS is cool to try and fiddle with. It's absolutely not ready to daily drive. There is a 64 bit build indeed.
@@ex-itguy It seems so. Is there any there any other software like react OS that can run natively Windows third party software? I simply had enough with Windows nonsense especially with that copilot AI in Recall spyware. Linux is an option, but most third party software do not have Linux version, and it is unknown if Linux can run free third party portable software of Windows.
Unfortunately, realitically, by the time Windows 10 goes out of support, ReactOS will be nowhere near complete or usable. It's also not targetting to repelace such a new Windows version. They got slowed a lot already by moving the goal post to support more recent Windows versions than initially planned (I think Windows server 2003 is the current goal), including 64 bit support.
@ex-itguy Yeah, sometimes he commented on video about ReactOS on real Hardware. I even remember that on Druaga1 video, even recent from Michael MJD ReactOS video
Originally it was a Russian project, but it's not anymore. The foundation lies in Germany. I believe the 64 bit build can do UEFI but I'm not sure about secure boot.
@@idcrafter-cgi OK, correct, Respect. I am a newbie ... So most of the "normal" pc users may have heard about BIOS battery by now, but I haven't seen may of them saying about UEFI battery 😁. Never-mid the polemic ... I downloaded ReactOS live cd ( abt 700-800 mB ) put in VirtualBox, with enabled UEFI 🙂- then disabled ... The surprise was that after booting the live cd iso , is not having any web browser ?!!
@@ex-itguy It's a completely from scratch OS started by Andreas Kling to help him with depression. Serenity OS is meant to look and behave like Windows 9x, of course with some modern features. And I think for executables it uses ELF format, the same that Linux has. Unfortunately Andreas has steppted down from the project, so he can focus fully on Ladybird (initially the browser for Serenity OS). Can't blame him, he's a browser developer at heart, but that leaves SerenityOS in the hands of the community, which makes me fear that it will slowly fade away, without the presentations that Andreas did and the way he managed to gather people interested in the project (devs or just potential users). I also wish to see Serenity OS becoming actually useful.
I was hyped for the concept, but what a disappointment in execution. I wish the dev team had the resources and manpower to fully take ReactOS to its full potential, the world needs a friendly alternative to Windows that isn't Linux or macOS.
@@ex-itguy It's based on the Win 2003NT-kernel. The Win32 API substitution is a poor Wine implementation. This thing has always been a anti-MS meme OS with no practical application.
this thing is a joke, of you try to use it, it disintegrates itself after using it for a couple minutes, if you instal it it will mess up the partition eventually it is a joke tbh, it has been abandoned basically for like a decade, forget it
With this BS attitude you ARE contributing to it actually getting abandoned (which, btw, the daily commits totally invalidate that). Instead of having a low effort braindead take, can you maybe help ? Or at least be constructive ? It is indeed still in a very rough spot, it is progressing very slowly, it might be never useful to you, but even in these cases it pisses me off to extreme amounts the amount of downplay some do for absolutely no reason.
What do you think about ReactOS? I think it's pretty cool to have an open-source Windows-alternative around!
Nice for people who suffer with mental health issues.
It's fun project but for practicality Linux + Wine is better as you get the stability some popular linux such as Debian + same ability to run windows programs. Since Wine and ReactOS devs share code with each other there wouldn't be any significant differences between them in terms of windows compatibility. I tried some classic gaming and with Warcraft 2 my sound became buggy after few minutes but with real Win XP it was fine.
@@WilliamHollinger2019 hahaha yeah you'll feel refreshed after a session or two!
@@test-rj2vl Linux has way better hardware compatibility and most Windows-stuff works fine with either Wine or Proton indeed.
@@ex-itguy But still even with Linux's better hardware support I wish there were more Wine developers. It feels like they haven't done anything in last 15-20 years. Yes, Proton is something but it seems to be rather hack than proper solution. I would like to see base version of Wine to be where Proton is. In addition I would like to see it support latest .NET, MS Office, Photoshop, etc so that Linux would be actual Windows competitor for end-user and not like Gimp is your new Photoshop now. If Wine was there right now, MS wouldn't be doing anti-consumer things like Recall that you cant even uninstall and that is dependency for explorer because if Wine was decent way more people could switch to Linux.
If you ever feel like you're taking too long to complete your projects just remember that ReactOS has been in Alpha since 1998.
Exactly 🤣
hits too close to home, dude
Hurd?
They only have a few developers, not thousands like Linux and its distros.
It's not windows, or Linux. It is somewhere in the middle. I like the idea. They don't have many devs, and making an OS from scratch is a huge undertaking. Mad respect.
it's even harder due to it needing to work like windows does but that some drivers just work is a lot of work.
I agree. I believe that anyone who has even looked at Windows' source code is banned from the project so it's all reverse engineering.
@@idcrafter-cgi Yes, application compatibility is one thing. Full driver compatibility is a different story. For full application compatibility, you may need your own kernel though. As an example, Windows has enforced file locks, Linux doesn't.
ReactOS is considered Windows-like or DOS-like though
@@0015v Windows-like specifically. There's no DOS involved.
Good video! I was the one that added the NVIDIA driver to the application manager. Glad to see it works for you
Awesome! Many thanks for doing so!
Having a proper video driver makes the whole experience a lot better. :)
React OS is such a cool project with so much potential, sadly from what I heard they have some internal issues which is why the main version on the site is so old. Hopefully they sort it out and keep improving soon. Awesome video!
Thanks! I hope they'll get it sorted soon. I'd love to see this as a viable alternative for the OS from Redmond.
@@ex-itguy Yeah that would be awesome! They seem to have a solid base but it just needs a bit more work.
I heard they recently resolved that issue and have plans to release a new version. I think the original problem was that the person in charge didn't want to release a new version with too many known bugs and regressions.
@@JuanGarcia-lh1gv Ah nice!
The first ever well done ReactOS video I have looked in to. :DDDDDDD
Congratulations, really informative and curious to have Nvidia drivers actually working. No jokes, I am inside of the ReactOS team and... Looks impresive that the Net built in drivers worked and Graphical drivers too.
There are few things to comment: The most recent Nvidia drivers have a bug that drops the FPS near to zero, somehow... The old version used to work better.
Audio drivers shouldn't work with the current code and needs a refactory, but we are improving slowly that situation, (now audio works under VMs and some old hardware with the AC'97 driver).
I hope you had fun testing the OS.
Thank you so much! Awesome to have an actual dev check in!
The nvidia driver works quite well, the artifacts could be because of this card, they were absent in the GT930.
I hope sound gets fixed soon, that's quite a big part of the whole experience. I did notice sound working in a VM indeed!
I did have to reinstall quite a few times because of lockups that made me have to reset the machine and leaving the OS in a limb. That happened with basic things like unplugging a usb stick (unmounting didn't work so...)
All in all I'd love to see some progress on this. Is there anything we n00bs can do to help?
There is no NVIDIA driver that can work well in reactos, it's just that they dont support 3D acceleration yet, only 2d for now
@@Postal2Dude That is not 100% true. 3D accel is supported partially and buggy. This is why ogl-gears or videogames as Simpsons Hit and Run are working.
@@ex-itguy
Sorry for the long text. Your experience is really similar that the one that everybody suffered recently under ReactOS.
You have faced some bugs that in videogames we would call "soft locks" (like beating Pokemon with an only Magikarp).
For example:
1. Driver that installs other .dll or .sys, or even registry entries that are not compatible with ReactOS.
2. Random MM/CC bugs that can corrupt the Filesystem.
Both situations can be fixed manually (time and a lot of effort), but for the common user are implying you to redo the ReactOS full setup (fast solution).
Okkay, being fair, there is some OLD version of the Nvidia drivers that currently working nicely. But after some code, the drivers are working insanely slow.
USB stack needs the last thing: The hot unplugging to be supported. And some support with the low level formatting tools (and tools like Rufus and that to work).
You are a good tester, you could help to point better where some bugs are failing. That will help to polish ReactOS.
Also you can help with translations, as tutorial maker, reactos appmanager database maintainer, etc
@Julenuri I don't think I can find the time to really participate, but a little testing and bugreporting I could surely do. I'll also make a post about this, maybe some people see it and chime in. It would be great to see this project thrive! :)
This is still a work in progress and really only good for experimenting and hobbyists. The lack of development and community support means that this will not be usable as a daily driver for the foreseeable future.
True. But you can help! (think Uncle Sam image haha)
I really like the concept of ReactOS! Must be frustrating to reverse engineer something like Windows! Coming from someone who is more successful with hardware than software I completely understand why they are taking a while getting this together! I wouldn't know where to start!
same!
There has been occasions where ReactOS could have gotten a lot more development support if more companies knew about it (and weren't, in general, cowards). When companies were scrambling because they knew WindowsXP was going out of support in 12-18 months (yes, companies did have that much time to plan migrations) they could have put some support an resources behind ReactOS to make it a functional replacement for XP, especially for those embedded and control systems. They probably spent a lot MORE having to rework their systems for MSWin7 (in those situations where they *could*) than it would have cost to bring ROS up to speed. The same situation came up again at the EOL for MSWin7, and again they could have made ReactOS a functional replacement for the underlying OS on those systems (with the added advantage they could pare it down to only what was needed, without the bloat).
These are the same companies who will whine about MSWin10 going EOL, but will chicken out, open their nearly-empty wallets, and bend over once again for Microsoft and the HW vendors.
No idea how i found you but its an awesome video! will subscribe and keep my eyes open for more videos. Love from Germany!
Awesome! Thanks you dear neighbour! Love from the Netherlands! 😃
2:45 I'm glad you did a video cut and reversed the IDE cable to match Master and Slave. I was stressing at the screen when I saw you plug the end of the cable into the CD-Rom set as slave. Yes I'm old.
This OS gives me Lindows flashbacks 😁
Haha, yeah but that's the only way this one fits. ;)
I'll probably put a sata ssd in it later on, then the cd drive can be matter again.
With AI taking over the Internet I almost mistook it for AI I am glad you're using your real voice and I am speaking to real people this AI generation sucks man.
Thanks! Being a voice actor I can't say I'm happy with all the ai stuff haha
My voice doesn't sound too good these weeks thanks to some virus though, but it'll have to do. :)
I would love to make this my Windows replacement OS. I'm still hanging on to my Windows 7 for dear life as I refuse to "upgrade" any newer integrated spyware featured Windows OS from our Microsoft overlords. I have actually committed to donating $5 a month to this project several months ago, in hopes that project will eventually be a serious contender. I seriously hope a lot more people will contribute towards this project. And no, I have no affiliation with them. I'm just a guy who doesn't want my OS spying on my activities, policing my files, and secretly reporting everything back to headquarters. I have lost all faith and trust with Microsoft after Windows 7, and even with Windows 7, I have a some concerns on what it might be collecting from me. Also, I hope this project NEVER integrates AI into it. If it was made as an optional add-on, then that would be okay because then we could still choose to not have it.
If the developers can hone in on this OS, this could be a great alternative to Windows. We can leave Ubuntu for MacOS users who have left the apple garden walls behind.
Although, if I'm being honest, making anything from Microsoft work outside Windows is a tall order.
They've been working on this for over two decades, so don't hold your breath on it. 😅
But it sure would be cool to see you go further.
i really hope it goes out of the alpha-beta stage and will be a good release OS
That would be great indeed!
Yep, it would, but it could take YEARS if not *DECADES* for that to happen.
Sad but true
Lets go! new Ex-It guy video! Awesome vid man enjoyed it!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
I groaned at 'people with back problems' :)
Hehe, that includes me ;)
@@ex-itguy I remember and have used the old NT installer hundreds of times throughout my life and I'm only 21. 😢
@98SE haha well that's quite similar to the 70s albums in my cd cabinet I guess ;)
I'm impressed the nvidia drivers worked. Although that's probably a configuration they specifically assured worked because of how ubiquitous the hardware is, but it still had to be a lot of work to get that working.
Since it's all reverse engineering, I can only imagine how much work that has been.
Correction: ReactOS is anything but complete.
That's kinda what the video shows, doesn't it?
@@ex-itguy 0:05 "It's a *complete* Windows compatible operating system."
@@ErdrickHero Ah right, I guess I could have said that I'm anther way haha
Looks like win 98 to me....😢
@@johncollins5552 more like 2000. The interface is almost the same but the backend differs a lot. This project is NT "compatible".
Thanx for the video. I installed on of the nitely builds on a VM and it ran fine with sound though couldn't get the screen resolution to go to 16x9 on 4x3. Couldn't do much with it not even surf the net.
Interesting. I installed it in a VirtualBox VM about a week ago and it works just fine. No 16x9 resolution indeed because it's using a generic vesa driver, but browsing works quite well.
@@ex-itguy Was this based on the old Lindows program??
@@paulwarner5395 No, that's a Linux distro that I believe is still around under the Linspire name. :)
@@ex-itguy Lindows became Linspire after M$ sued them.
That is an interesting point. I could have two or more drives on a single IDE but only one at a time on Sata. I wonder why?
IDE can have two max, but only one at a time can "talk", so the dvd drive and harddisk constantly have to wait for each other. SCSI didn't have that issue but SAS is way faster than the old SCSI bus.
@@ex-itguy Thanks for the correction. It's still weird that we've gone back a bit.
Great video! Instant subscribe 😁
Awesome! Thank you!
I didn't expect to see someone install a spinning drive for an OS in 2024, even for an intentionally low end build.
To be honest, it was mostly so I could do that IDE talk haha
i fukin loved intro music
I might try this on a VM one day
or a A1181 MacBook
I wonder if one of the Windows XP compatible browsers like Newmoon or Kmeleon would work on ReactOS.
Didn't even know about these! I'll make sure to try next time. :)
My PC from 2009 is too new for ReactOS. 😅
Yeah to be honest I think I got lucky with this machine. The installer wouldn't boot on a core2quad machine. :)
I do enjoy watching ReactOS UA-cam videos whenever they appear in my feed, and it's cool that you ran it on bare metal. I still consider it to be rather useless. It's a reverse engineer of a very old version of Windows, which is by no means practical. It would be cool to run it in PCem since that will allow emulating old hardware, but I don't see how ReactOS can "do" anything practical. It would make more sense to have a reverse-engineered open source Windows 10, but we all know that would require tremendous amount of work, and probably won't happen...the world of operating systems and software compatibility today is already drastically different from 20+ years ago!
I guess you're right, but if they can get better hardware support (and stability...) and modern browser support it could be a decent one for older computers.
One day it will all work just fine. Trouble is we will be on Windows 45 by then.
Finally, full XP compatibility in 2397! 😆
yeah people have different needs and reactOS is enough for me sometimes i mean reactOS is amazing let me guess its new linux distro with new or latest linux apps or its not that vintage like mandrake linux which is no available update or no longer supported or no new version released or they change it or giving it new names like mandriva
It's not Linux, it's a true Windows compatible OS.
Mandrake/Mandriva is still around as OpenMandriva by the way, or the Mageia fork.
@ex-itguy i dont study it tech a lot sir but telco engineering introduce it a little
I still run Windows XP 32-bit via a VM running on my Proxmox server.
I don't use it for games or anything like this though, but this is interesting as it is DEFINITELY a throw back to either Win95/Win98(SE)/Win2k era.
I can imagine just how blazing fast it'd be though if your gave it some really modern hardware.
It's a bit hit or miss on hardware though, I guess I got lucky with this Pentium 4. the installer wouldn't run on a core2quad machine. On my P3 laptop I can't get any drivers in without crashing.
Haven't tried it on anything really modern though. :)
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Oh really???
I didn't know that.
That's good to know. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Leuke video! Ik denk persoonlijk dat ReactOS nog een lange weg heeft te gaan, maar het is wel een leuk project! Hoewel er iets niet klopt in deze video... De gpu driver dat werkt op ReactOS zonder dat het hele systeem crasht??? Kan niet 😂
Hahaha, ja daar was ik ook verbaasd over. Gelukkig crashte hij wel bij een andere driver 🤣
Was je blij met het IDE stuk? Speciaal voor jou gedaan omdat je laatst zei bij elke video wel iets te leren. 😄
@ex-itguy Dat IDE stuk wist ik inderdaad nog niet, daar was ik blij mee :)
Ik wist wel wat het was en ik heb nog een laptop IDE schijf liggen maar ik wist niet dat je 2 schijven met èèn kabel kon gebruiken door èèn op master te zetten en èèn op slayer met een stukje plastiek!
Kijk, toch weer wat gewonnen haha!
Laptop ide is 44 pins, ipv 40. Daar gaat ook voeding door.
@@ex-itguy Ik wist niet dat laptop IDE 44 pins heeft ipv 40, wel dat voeding daar ook door gaat! Ik heb weer wat geleerd vandaag :)
Nou nou een weetje dan: wat ik deed, de harddisk en dvd speler op dezelfde kabel, is niet ideaal qua performance omdat maar 1 apparaat tegelijk kan 'praten' over IDE. Dus als je een cd in de drive stopt dan vertraagd dat de harde schijf.
In oudere systemen zou je daarom dus de speler en harddisk niet op dezelfde poort zetten, maar die optie had ik hier niet.
Ik denk dat ik er een sata ssd in ga hangen. Voor de video was dit wel even leuk echter. :)
god i remember playing with this in the early 2000's and 20 + years later its still nowhere near a good experince.
I was hoping for some more progress indeed haha, I never had any luck installing drivers so getting the Nvidia drivers working was kinda nice. 😄
I remember installing ReactOS on a spare Pentium III machine and playing around with it in the mid 2000's, I know I got bored with it pretty quickly, the OS felt too much like a demo type with not much going on. Things I did like was it looked similar to windows 98 and ran fast, so didn't need a suped up PC to run it.
Tell me it has access to the Windows Hardware driver catalogue including compatability.
Sadly, no. You can try to install XP/2000 drivers but most will fail.
I really like alternative oses. Reacos is very interesting! But common guys... at least a few common hardware support! :( :(
Pentium 4 is a 64-bit processor
This one indeed is, the first ones weren't though. But I guess you're referring to the fact I downloaded the 32 bit variant of ReactOS? The 64 bit build simply didn't work.
GREAT - THANKS !!
What is the memory usage ??
I have here an old DELL Dimension 2400 with Pentium 1 Core CPU and 1 GB RAM.
Want to give a working system to poor people so they have a computer.
Can you help me out ??
You can answer me in Dutch ....
Oof, don't give anyone a system with ReactOS at this point. It's really not ready.
Depending on their needs Haiku might be nice (I have a video on that too), or simply a Linux distro, but you might want a bit more memory to run a decent distro.
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Thanks
At the moment I run MiniOS x86 on the DELL Dimension, and it runs quite well.
Maybe interesting to make a UA-cam movie from that ??
Seems yet another small Linux distro. Looks nice though, I'll check it out. Thanks!
Made. DVD Setup did not work blue of death computer froze ?
Annoyingly it just doesn't work on all systems. I had the same on a core2quad machine.
I like reactOs just like win2k/xp-classic.
May be i try.
I think I'll stick to Windows 7 works fine on any PC I own. Too many "Oh I guess that doesn't work!"
As long as you're not doing a lot of internet stuff on it, you're probably fine. :)
I'm also a very old guy. I even know what SIPP memory is.
And how's your back today? 😄
10:35 Is that the sound of the IBM PC Speaker?
yep, all the sound I got without soundcard drivers :)
@@ex-itguyAs a Fanboy/Hardcore Fan of the IBM PC Speaker. This doom source port is interesting because it plays the music instead of sound effects
I thought that was interesting as well indeed!
@@ex-itguy I need to check out the music. How did you set it to run to the IBM PC Speaker?
I didn't, everything I did to run it is in the video. :)
Sorry for saying, but that PC it's much more usable with a Windows XP.
Don't be, you're right about that. But XP is old and unsafe to connect to the internet whilst ReactOS is at least still maintained. For now it's mostly for hobbyists though.
Looks like jumping in a time machine and going back to the early 2000s. It's a shame it's so flaky but it's a huge undertaking. I hope MS don't sue them.
I would like to think that after a few decades MS should be aware of this project haha. But they make very sure not to use any actual Windows code, so I don't think there is anything to sue about.
How did you know that I had back problems?
😆
"Big, fat hands"
Hey, no fat shaming please! 😄
something that's been around since 1998, I don't think deserves the leniency to be called just "a work in progress" -- I think it's safe to call it a mediocre product or just call it nothing at all. Let's see ONE critical piece of software that this is running for businesses and solving their work processes with more safety than running windows 95, 98 or XP. I want to see that use case and frankly that should just be exploited with it.
Fast mention on this one, but You should definitely not be using a Packard Bell machine for ANY kind of OS testing ... They used their own proprietary hardware on the boards, and it cause tons of problems with drivers back in the older Windows days.
They were great games machines with rel Windows, but only when You went to the actual PBell support site & downloaded the board drivers & overlays for installation right after the initial Windows install itself. Anything without the custom drivers at the board level would just not run the hardware correctly, & it didn't support the current DirectX or slot tech properly.
G'Luck!!!
It worked quite well though. ;)
@@ex-itguy As mentioned, they were great game machines, but they did require an overlay layer of drivers & patches at the motherboard levels.
I think the disk cradle is missing, at the bottom of the front face, where you can see two tabs with two holes... Or these two tabs were used directly to screw the disk...
I Own a packard Bell mini-tower from this era, in which the - now SSD - drive is screwed vertically in the front.
That's what I thought at first, but 3.5" disk just fits there without a cradle. It just wasn't an option to put the ide disk there.
But a disk with dead sectors should be destroyed anyway. This video is meant for people who destroy perfectly fine disks.
I would recommend Linux mint cinnamon for daily use (word documents, Firefox browsing, movies, music etc) and Bazzite for gaming.
Bazzite comes with pre-installed software (Linux proton and Linux wine) which ensures maximum compatibility with windows games.
This only true for single player games (The Last of us part 1, cyberpunk 2077, black myth wukong, etc) because they don't have anti cheat.
You could install the software yourself on mint, but this is tricky and Bazzite Handle's this for you. Do a dual boot of these OS's and You'll have an easy experience. The GUI means you never have to use the terminal except to fix something.
I know, but this time I wanted to make a video about ReactOS ;)
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Plug and pray 🤣😂
Haha, that was an actual term used to describe Windows 9x plug & play features back then. ;)
Interesting
Master should be at the end of the cable. Even if you jumper the middle one to master and the end device to slave, that is non-standard. By the way, I liked the video, not here to bother you.
You're right, but the cable wasn't long enough and I've been stupid enough to throw away my IDE cables a few years back haha
Can it work with the latest pc and laptops? When I tried to install Win 10 on a new laptop that came with Win 11, the NVME wasn't recognized and when I tried to use the official external driver, after installing Win 10, every time I restarted the computer I got the blue screen of death.
Also, is it 64bit?
I wouldn't expect it to work well. At this moment ReactOS is cool to try and fiddle with. It's absolutely not ready to daily drive.
There is a 64 bit build indeed.
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How about revision OS?
@@laylasmart That's basically a stripped-down version of Windows, isn't it? No idea.
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It seems so. Is there any there any other software like react OS that can run natively Windows third party software? I simply had enough with Windows nonsense especially with that copilot AI in Recall spyware. Linux is an option, but most third party software do not have Linux version, and it is unknown if Linux can run free third party portable software of Windows.
@laylasmart Linux is currently your best bet. A lot of Windows software runs quite well with wine/proton nowadays.
This would actually be a good os for the windows 10 refugees if only the devs had the resources to make it more up to date
Indeed! Let's get more people in and get it going! 😁
Unfortunately, realitically, by the time Windows 10 goes out of support, ReactOS will be nowhere near complete or usable.
It's also not targetting to repelace such a new Windows version. They got slowed a lot already by moving the goal post to support more recent Windows versions than initially planned (I think Windows server 2003 is the current goal), including 64 bit support.
So are there any applications for it, and what could you actually do with it?
There's a whole list of working apps, but tbh it's not reliable at the moment. The more people start testing it the sooner it will be though. ;)
@ I see, thanks. So a regular Joe or Jane could use it for office apps, internet browser, all the usual fbook, gmail etc stuff?
@PRH123 Not at this point. In a way yes, but it's just not very stable right now.
Where's GoogleDoesEvil when we need him???? 😂
Who's that? I see a UA-cam account with a ReactOS logo and no content. Original dev?
@ex-itguy Yeah, sometimes he commented on video about ReactOS on real Hardware.
I even remember that on Druaga1 video, even recent from Michael MJD ReactOS video
Aha. Well a few others from the ReactOS team responded quite positively in the comments though. :)
Might as well just use Hotdog Linux with a better package manager
Never heard of that, looks like a fun distro. This isn't Linux though.
Made in Russia ? Does it have persistence mode ? If I would install it on my PC , can it boot with Secure Boot activated in BIOS ?
a BIOS will not have any kind of Secure Boot, only a UEFi has Secure Boot which ReactOS does not really support.
Originally it was a Russian project, but it's not anymore. The foundation lies in Germany.
I believe the 64 bit build can do UEFI but I'm not sure about secure boot.
@@idcrafter-cgi OK, correct, Respect. I am a newbie ... So most of the "normal" pc users may have heard about BIOS battery by now, but I haven't seen may of them saying about UEFI battery 😁. Never-mid the polemic ... I downloaded ReactOS live cd ( abt 700-800 mB ) put in VirtualBox, with enabled UEFI 🙂- then disabled ... The surprise was that after booting the live cd iso , is not having any web browser ?!!
1FPS 😆 I imagined a digital picture frame cycling images
can this run path of exile?:D
I have no idea 😄
Try SerenityOS
Apparently it's a totally fresh OS that's UNIX-like even, not even directly using GNU or other normal elements used by Linux systems
Sounds interesting! I think I've seen it at one point and thought it was Linux. I've put it on my list of things to check out, thanks!
@@ex-itguy It's a completely from scratch OS started by Andreas Kling to help him with depression. Serenity OS is meant to look and behave like Windows 9x, of course with some modern features. And I think for executables it uses ELF format, the same that Linux has.
Unfortunately Andreas has steppted down from the project, so he can focus fully on Ladybird (initially the browser for Serenity OS). Can't blame him, he's a browser developer at heart, but that leaves SerenityOS in the hands of the community, which makes me fear that it will slowly fade away, without the presentations that Andreas did and the way he managed to gather people interested in the project (devs or just potential users). I also wish to see Serenity OS becoming actually useful.
@@Winnetou17I'll make sure to check it out! It sure sounds interesting!
How worth it is it these days? I tried it like 10 years ago, but it crashed all the time.
About the same, but they seem to be making some steps lately.
I was hyped for the concept, but what a disappointment in execution. I wish the dev team had the resources and manpower to fully take ReactOS to its full potential, the world needs a friendly alternative to Windows that isn't Linux or macOS.
I agree, it would be great to see ReactOS a viable alternative for your average old computer. :)
michaelsoft binbows
There actually was a game called Winblows 98, I used to have that one in the late 90s 😄
ReactOS gone too much far ahead on this new release, way better than it was before, they done really great jib improve user experience
Let's hope they can keep going like this :)
looks like win 98
2000 actually, but the interface is almost the same indeed.
This is the most unstable os I have ever used its still in alpha 😂
It's not that bad, I only had to reinstall 5 times before I had enough footage for this video 🤣
Reality: nobody uses it because nothing of it works. It's not "compatible" at all.
Sadly, this is the truth. But, they seem to be making some big steps lately!
@@ex-itguy It's based on the Win 2003NT-kernel. The Win32 API substitution is a poor Wine implementation.
This thing has always been a anti-MS meme OS with no practical application.
Yup. Partying like it is 1999. Windows sucks. I don't see the point in trying to make a clone of it.
this thing is a joke, of you try to use it, it disintegrates itself after using it for a couple minutes, if you instal it it will mess up the partition eventually
it is a joke tbh, it has been abandoned basically for like a decade, forget it
I never had it mess up partitions. Filesystem issues after crashes, yes. But it's not abandoned at all, it's just that progress is slow.
With this BS attitude you ARE contributing to it actually getting abandoned (which, btw, the daily commits totally invalidate that).
Instead of having a low effort braindead take, can you maybe help ? Or at least be constructive ? It is indeed still in a very rough spot, it is progressing very slowly, it might be never useful to you, but even in these cases it pisses me off to extreme amounts the amount of downplay some do for absolutely no reason.