Agree w/ pretty much all points in the video. Own a 23 V60 Recharge, it is THE do it all vehicle. I have been averaging 106mpg and haven't had to gas up in 1400mi. It also goes like a stabbed rat when you punch it. Topher pretty much covered everything I like about this platform. Couple points regarding the video: - 2.9 OTA just got pushed, which makes it possible to adjust between Pilot Assist and traditional ACC with the left steering wheel button which is a welcome functionality add. - 2.9 also made Carplay maps work with the cluster. Huge if you use it. - Note on the battery, Volvo definitely understates the electric range. In warm weather, above 70F I'm getting a consistent 48-50mi. Negative points, mostly with drive mode Hybrid: - The feature that was mentioned about the navigation adjusting vehicle efficiency settings (Predictive Efficiency) occasionally disables itself mid drive leaving you doing 70mph on battery. - Moreover, Predictive Efficiency only works if your destination is exceeding your battery range. So if your destination is 41mi, you go to it, but on the way back you have to use Gas because you used all your battery. This would be solved if Predictive Efficiency was on at all times in Hybrid mode. As it stands Hybrid mode just uses your battery essentially all the time unless your floor it, so you can coast on the highway 70mph and it'll still be on battery mode. It should be on highways or past a certain speed goes to gas, otherwise battery only. -Important for anyone tracking: The 114mph limiter is real and will actively limit revs way below this speed. It starts limiting when you get to 100mph, couldn't get it to go past 4.5k. In 3700mi it has been dead reliable, only time will tell though how many electronic gremlins will present themselves.
3,700 miles is too early for anything to fail even in an unreliable car. The real “magic” with these starts right before the end of the warranty period and past that. Great car if you are just leasing it though.
Is anybody modifying or tuning this powertrain in the US? the regular T6 powertrain (without the battery) see really good gains. I'd be interested to see if the top speed limiter can be removed too.
Pro tip on predictive efficiency. Put your starting point as destination and your actual destination as intermediary. That way it will do it for the round trip. Also you have to use the built in google maps navigation.
I own a 2020 S60 T8 Inscription plug-in which is pretty much the same as this except it has those additional buttons that have since been removed and larger infotainment text. It’s the greatest car I’ve ever had the privilege of owning, just hit 20K miles on it and it is my baby. It’s made me a Volvo fan for life. Best plug-in on the market for the price, hands-down. Luxurious interior and driving experience.
Topher is the best because, unlike other review channels, he drives from the perspective of the everyday driver. Can't stand other channels judging cars based on taking corners at 60mph and the 0-60 times.
I have the 2022 S60 Recharge Black Edition, I had the windows tinted to 20, so they are quite dark. So its really black on black now. Then I had the Polestar Engineered software installed 😊. I get 51-52 miles electric, the handling improved drastically, and I get an average of 120mpg. Can't beat this for a daily driver.
I have the 2022 S60 Recharge Black Edition as well. I absolutely love this car! It is so much fun to drive! I hate that I missed the full Google Maps though. How did you get the Polestar software?
You'll be happy to know that in the latest software updates that just came out, 2.9, the right steering wheel button the left side can now switch between regular adaptive cruise and pilot assist.
Broooo that sound system sounds amazing!!! And I know it sounds better in person, because you naturally lose some quality through the mic, and it still sounds amazing!
Seriously considering putting a deposit down on a V60 Recharge T8 Polestar (only trim option available here) because I love this powertrain and the look of the V60.. This video is a great resource!
Curious how the reliability has changed in ditching the superchargers. I've heard terrible things about the reliability of the prior super/turbo charged vehicles.
We had a XC90 T6 since new that’s the supercharger and turbo for 5 years. It’s now at 50k miles and we’ve had no issues besides a check engine light during the first 5k miles that was solved with a software update. Other than that just regular maintenance and tires. The infotainment is laggy at start up but that’s solved by unlocking the car as you’re walking up. Other than that no issues
I rented an A5 sportback for a week, convinced I was going to buy an Audi. Dropped it off feeling a little… underwhelmed. Did some more research, watched your reviews, went and test drove the S60R… ordered one.
BMW fanboy here. Ive just had test drive in the new bmw 3, mercedes cclass. After the dissapointment, and watching this video, i gave this volvo a chance and... Im geting mine ant the end of November 😍 I just loved it after test drive.
I have always loved the S60 ever since it first launched. With this new black series is even more gorgeous looking. Glad that Volvo still continue to make this model because i think the S60 is a great car and should get more recognition!! Thanks for another great review 👍🏼😉
I love these cars and that powertrain. Currently drive an Arteon but wanting a bit more power. I'd rather this than a BMW or Audi because as a daily, more comfortable, quieter and the sound systems in Volvo's are incredible.
Thanks guys, I do love the Arteon. I'm tuned with APR and it is somewhat fast. But I think hyrbid power is the best of all worlds. I've always wanted a Volvo.
You're saying that Volvos are more comfortable and quieter than Audis and BMWs? Interesting, reviews here on youtube suggest otherwise, never had a chance to compare myself though.
Savage Gueese is always killing Volvo on its ride quality yet you are in Michigan and say that this Volvo rides well. Volvo has been doing this car a long time and they've probably got the refinement down now.
You talk a bit fast and trail off with volume on occasion. Otherwise I very much like how you did your review. It's a good, quality video. I'm an older driver/racer so I don't need to be talked down to or treat as if I'm a neophyte. You don't do that. You also drive the car. I have a 2024 with the Polestar option. My other DD is a 2017 BMW 440i X. I love Polestar mode! You're the first to turn on the fantastic stereo! Thanks for a review that jives very well with my thoughts!
I'm currently driving a 2021 E Class 300e PHEV. I really love it, and people seem to agree, given how many I see on the roads. Unfortunately the new 2023 model does not really float my boat. The predecessor had such a nice interior - I work in IT and don't enjoy screens all over the dashboard really. This Volvo is the first new car I've seen in years that really looks like an alternative for me. The white/grey nappa leather looks very classy. Only worry would be the software. The Merc system is really great, it's the only car I've seen where voice activation really works.
I absolutely don't get the fascination with blacked out cars! It's so bad Volvo no longer offers "bright" trim...stupid! Blacked out is a fad... contrasting colors are WAY better... bring back the CHROME!
It should’ve be that hard to remove. It is essentially a value to change. Only problem is that the menu is locked. I am not from Germany, but I am am considering the change since I drive quite a few times a year in Germany.
Last year I needed to order a new car. So my final options were BMW 330e (touring), Mercedes C300e, BMW i4 or Volvo V60 T6 recharge. In the end I chose the Volvo. I do drive around 60k km a year. The BMW 330e has less power, bad seats, small fuel tank and small battery, but it has better driving dynamics. The Mercedes has a big battery, but the trunk suffers, good comfort and good power. The BMW i4 was really nice, but 2 years delivery time and electric still has some serious downsides. The Volvo hasn’t got the best infotainment or ultimate grip or pleasure, but for me it is a car where I have to spend often 6 hours a day in. Range, comfort and performance wears the winning combination.
how does that work with just kicking the motor on during highway use, if the motor is still cold wouldn't that cause damage? or do they have some kind of motor heating function while driving in preparation for it to kick on
i'd like to see if she'd drift. i have a 2019 V60 with the 84hp motor. She wont. the moter is kinda underwhelming infact. i'd love to see the new version doing some donuts with just the electric motor.
When you say 455 horsepower, is it actually 455 horsepower at once, or the 315ish + 140ish separately; either you get 315 with the gasoline motor or you're in EV mode and you're getting 140?
The T8 will actually allow you to use 455hp at once, although it doesn’t feel quite like 455hp (weight). The T6 (same engine, different software) limits the total power to 350hp.
@@zeedustrakok Interesting. I appreciate your response. Do you think it even feels like 400hp? I test drove a fully charged T8 Recharge last year and it felt noticeably less powerful than my 2015 3.0L T6, which is why I was thinking it was 315 or 140, not both. Deff didn't feel like 455 hp in my opinion.
@@panjoshua6251 Honestly: my reference for what 400hp feels like is quite limited. I only did a short drive in the T8, my main tests were the T6 (350hp and 659 nm instead of 455hp and 709nm). The T6 feels way faster than a Kia EV6 AWD (325hp). The T8 felt quite comparable to a polestar 2 dual motor with a bit over 400hp. So it definitely is 455hp peak, but it is way over 2 tonnes. But what I like best: drive it at 80% Use the immense torque between 2000 and 3000 rpm and it definitely will feel like a big V8. Hence I did order the T6 that takes around 5.3s to 100 instead of 4.6s for the T8. But that being said: I did really like the power of the BMW i4 40e with 340hp which felt less than 100hp down on the T8.
Agree w/ pretty much all points in the video. Own a 23 V60 Recharge, it is THE do it all vehicle. I have been averaging 106mpg and haven't had to gas up in 1400mi. It also goes like a stabbed rat when you punch it. Topher pretty much covered everything I like about this platform.
Couple points regarding the video:
- 2.9 OTA just got pushed, which makes it possible to adjust between Pilot Assist and traditional ACC with the left steering wheel button which is a welcome functionality add.
- 2.9 also made Carplay maps work with the cluster. Huge if you use it.
- Note on the battery, Volvo definitely understates the electric range. In warm weather, above 70F I'm getting a consistent 48-50mi.
Negative points, mostly with drive mode Hybrid:
- The feature that was mentioned about the navigation adjusting vehicle efficiency settings (Predictive Efficiency) occasionally disables itself mid drive leaving you doing 70mph on battery.
- Moreover, Predictive Efficiency only works if your destination is exceeding your battery range. So if your destination is 41mi, you go to it, but on the way back you have to use Gas because you used all your battery. This would be solved if Predictive Efficiency was on at all times in Hybrid mode. As it stands Hybrid mode just uses your battery essentially all the time unless your floor it, so you can coast on the highway 70mph and it'll still be on battery mode. It should be on highways or past a certain speed goes to gas, otherwise battery only.
-Important for anyone tracking: The 114mph limiter is real and will actively limit revs way below this speed. It starts limiting when you get to 100mph, couldn't get it to go past 4.5k.
In 3700mi it has been dead reliable, only time will tell though how many electronic gremlins will present themselves.
Having maps from Car Play be displayed on the driver's cluster is just fantastic. Great news
3,700 miles is too early for anything to fail even in an unreliable car. The real “magic” with these starts right before the end of the warranty period and past that. Great car if you are just leasing it though.
Is anybody modifying or tuning this powertrain in the US? the regular T6 powertrain (without the battery) see really good gains. I'd be interested to see if the top speed limiter can be removed too.
@@MikeMUFC91 It can be removed, I know there are shops that does it in Germany. In Sweden atleast there are no tunes for the T6 yet.
Pro tip on predictive efficiency. Put your starting point as destination and your actual destination as intermediary. That way it will do it for the round trip. Also you have to use the built in google maps navigation.
I own a 2020 S60 T8 Inscription plug-in which is pretty much the same as this except it has those additional buttons that have since been removed and larger infotainment text. It’s the greatest car I’ve ever had the privilege of owning, just hit 20K miles on it and it is my baby. It’s made me a Volvo fan for life. Best plug-in on the market for the price, hands-down. Luxurious interior and driving experience.
Topher is the best because, unlike other review channels, he drives from the perspective of the everyday driver. Can't stand other channels judging cars based on taking corners at 60mph and the 0-60 times.
Facts. Real roads. Real speeds. Serenity and fact vibes vs 20 minutes of “but it under steers when I go 97 on a back road.” Topher, every time💯
I have the 2022 S60 Recharge Black Edition, I had the windows tinted to 20, so they are quite dark. So its really black on black now. Then I had the Polestar Engineered software installed 😊. I get 51-52 miles electric, the handling improved drastically, and I get an average of 120mpg. Can't beat this for a daily driver.
I have the 2022 S60 Recharge Black Edition as well. I absolutely love this car! It is so much fun to drive! I hate that I missed the full Google Maps though. How did you get the Polestar software?
Does the polestar software remove the speed limiter by any chance? I am looking to buy a 2024 s60 recharge ultimate
@@benhmorris0319 Any volvo dealer will have the software upgrade.
@rainy_days 😂 Sorry I cannot answer that.
How long does it take to charge
I took delivery of the xc60 version and I LOVE it. I was a VW/Audi fanboy and now I’m all in with Volvo.
Do you have the black edition?
Fantastic swan song for SPA to go out on. I’m happy Volvo finally nailed their hybrid dual engine/motor tech.
You'll be happy to know that in the latest software updates that just came out, 2.9, the right steering wheel button the left side can now switch between regular adaptive cruise and pilot assist.
Broooo that sound system sounds amazing!!! And I know it sounds better in person, because you naturally lose some quality through the mic, and it still sounds amazing!
Seriously considering putting a deposit down on a V60 Recharge T8 Polestar (only trim option available here) because I love this powertrain and the look of the V60.. This video is a great resource!
Curious how the reliability has changed in ditching the superchargers. I've heard terrible things about the reliability of the prior super/turbo charged vehicles.
The reliability issues weren’t just from the turbos, they were from everywhere esp the electronics. Volvo is just not the same quality anymore sadly.
What bad things were you hearing about the prior super/turbocharged ones?
Im looking at a 2019 T8
We had a XC90 T6 since new that’s the supercharger and turbo for 5 years. It’s now at 50k miles and we’ve had no issues besides a check engine light during the first 5k miles that was solved with a software update. Other than that just regular maintenance and tires. The infotainment is laggy at start up but that’s solved by unlocking the car as you’re walking up. Other than that no issues
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@@andrewgus8763 Yeah, seems like it was overall with the cars: ua-cam.com/video/TQgMVBrmc54/v-deo.html
I rented an A5 sportback for a week, convinced I was going to buy an Audi. Dropped it off feeling a little… underwhelmed. Did some more research, watched your reviews, went and test drove the S60R… ordered one.
Big mistake. A5 is a way better in all aspects.
@@sunshadow9704 no mistake because a5 is gonna be marked up to oblivion
BMW fanboy here. Ive just had test drive in the new bmw 3, mercedes cclass. After the dissapointment, and watching this video, i gave this volvo a chance and... Im geting mine ant the end of November 😍
I just loved it after test drive.
I have always loved the S60 ever since it first launched. With this new black series is even more gorgeous looking.
Glad that Volvo still continue to make this model because i think the S60 is a great car and should get more recognition!!
Thanks for another great review 👍🏼😉
Topher is such a great salesman for Volvo cars in a good way!
Stoked to see this one
I love these cars and that powertrain. Currently drive an Arteon but wanting a bit more power. I'd rather this than a BMW or Audi because as a daily, more comfortable, quieter and the sound systems in Volvo's are incredible.
Arteon is still very nice though!
Team Arteon over here too!
Thanks guys, I do love the Arteon. I'm tuned with APR and it is somewhat fast. But I think hyrbid power is the best of all worlds. I've always wanted a Volvo.
You're saying that Volvos are more comfortable and quieter than Audis and BMWs? Interesting, reviews here on youtube suggest otherwise, never had a chance to compare myself though.
Savage Gueese is always killing Volvo on its ride quality yet you are in Michigan and say that this Volvo rides well. Volvo has been doing this car a long time and they've probably got the refinement down now.
Savage Geese are sophomoric. I think they're bad actors in how fast they drive on public roads.
I have the 18 in wheels on my 23 S60 T8 and I have hardly any complaints about ride quality in Michigan. Perhaps it's different with the 19s.
You talk a bit fast and trail off with volume on occasion. Otherwise I very much like how you did your review. It's a good, quality video.
I'm an older driver/racer so I don't need to be talked down to or treat as if I'm a neophyte. You don't do that. You also drive the car. I have a 2024 with the Polestar option. My other DD is a 2017 BMW 440i X.
I love Polestar mode! You're the first to turn on the fantastic stereo!
Thanks for a review that jives very well with my thoughts!
Nothing can beat my 2012 Honda Civic Sedan. Love the Volvo though. Great video. 20:28
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If I ever trade in my model 3 it would be for this. This is the first Volvo I would consider.
love the car and your Omega
Sound system is so good.
I'm currently driving a 2021 E Class 300e PHEV. I really love it, and people seem to agree, given how many I see on the roads. Unfortunately the new 2023 model does not really float my boat. The predecessor had such a nice interior - I work in IT and don't enjoy screens all over the dashboard really. This Volvo is the first new car I've seen in years that really looks like an alternative for me. The white/grey nappa leather looks very classy. Only worry would be the software. The Merc system is really great, it's the only car I've seen where voice activation really works.
Dream car right here, hope one day I can afford it
love how their 4cyl sounds like a 6cyl
What do you think about the Volvo ex30?
Liking the way it looks, can't wait to drive one!
obssesed with volvos lately
Everyone loves blacked out cars...until they own one
I absolutely don't get the fascination with blacked out cars! It's so bad Volvo no longer offers "bright" trim...stupid! Blacked out is a fad... contrasting colors are WAY better... bring back the CHROME!
Not a huge Volvo fan but this car is gorgeous
sounds like a lot of wind noise when on the highway, is that true or was it just the mic picking up more than usual?
Why does Volvo limit this to 15A charging? My Honda plugin hybrid is 30A limit. I know it’s not fully EV but strange to be that low.
Are they reliable? I’ve heard so many horror stories about recent Volvos being absolute shitshows.
Some people do drive these miles every day and back again every day ! Not everybody lives in a city.
I think only Germans may have an issue with the 114mph limiter. I also wonder if tuners already have a speed limiter delete for these.
The speed limiter can be removed and it only cost 200-400$
It should’ve be that hard to remove. It is essentially a value to change. Only problem is that the menu is locked. I am not from Germany, but I am am considering the change since I drive quite a few times a year in Germany.
Its a beautiful save strong car Volvo ❤
Does this particular car have double laminated glass?
I think the Inscription editions come like that. Keeps the ride even quieter
Your money: This or a 330e? (Or skip ahead to the i4?)
Last year I needed to order a new car. So my final options were BMW 330e (touring), Mercedes C300e, BMW i4 or Volvo V60 T6 recharge. In the end I chose the Volvo. I do drive around 60k km a year. The BMW 330e has less power, bad seats, small fuel tank and small battery, but it has better driving dynamics. The Mercedes has a big battery, but the trunk suffers, good comfort and good power. The BMW i4 was really nice, but 2 years delivery time and electric still has some serious downsides. The Volvo hasn’t got the best infotainment or ultimate grip or pleasure, but for me it is a car where I have to spend often 6 hours a day in. Range, comfort and performance wears the winning combination.
could've been my car, sadly the infotainment system is horrendous... will get my 330e in 2 months.
Damn definitely couldn’t do a 114mph limiter, my 96 Camry with the 2.2 can get away from this thing 😭
Do you have to charge it or can it be driven with gas alone?
is the speed performance better when the battery is charged or do you get e same performance with a dead battery and just running off fuel?
Really nice looking car.
Wow Volvo's are cool AF. Yeah bye bye BMW hello Volvo. 😂😂. Great video and awesome car. I never really see to me Volvo's other than Semi trucks .
how does that work with just kicking the motor on during highway use, if the motor is still cold wouldn't that cause damage? or do they have some kind of motor heating function while driving in preparation for it to kick on
This car has a leaf spring in the rear? yuck, no wonder everyone critiques the suspension design
The interior feels like SUV
i'd like to see if she'd drift.
i have a 2019 V60 with the 84hp motor.
She wont. the moter is kinda underwhelming infact.
i'd love to see the new version doing some donuts with just the electric motor.
Is it just me or is the cabin really loud on the highway?
Just to Say they have an Electric supercharge
My A200 returns 65 MPG.. and it's 1/3 of the price of this... good luck with this awful proposition.
How long does it take to charge?
When you say 455 horsepower, is it actually 455 horsepower at once, or the 315ish + 140ish separately; either you get 315 with the gasoline motor or you're in EV mode and you're getting 140?
The T8 will actually allow you to use 455hp at once, although it doesn’t feel quite like 455hp (weight). The T6 (same engine, different software) limits the total power to 350hp.
@@zeedustrakok Interesting. I appreciate your response. Do you think it even feels like 400hp? I test drove a fully charged T8 Recharge last year and it felt noticeably less powerful than my 2015 3.0L T6, which is why I was thinking it was 315 or 140, not both. Deff didn't feel like 455 hp in my opinion.
@@panjoshua6251 Honestly: my reference for what 400hp feels like is quite limited.
I only did a short drive in the T8, my main tests were the T6 (350hp and 659 nm instead of 455hp and 709nm). The T6 feels way faster than a Kia EV6 AWD (325hp). The T8 felt quite comparable to a polestar 2 dual motor with a bit over 400hp. So it definitely is 455hp peak, but it is way over 2 tonnes.
But what I like best: drive it at 80% Use the immense torque between 2000 and 3000 rpm and it definitely will feel like a big V8.
Hence I did order the T6 that takes around 5.3s to 100 instead of 4.6s for the T8.
But that being said: I did really like the power of the BMW i4 40e with 340hp which felt less than 100hp down on the T8.
I want to buy it but I can’t find in Volvos page
whats the aftermarket support for this
Is there a wagon version?
can i change the display to have 2 full circle speedometer / rpm meter?
does the current xc60 recharge have the same battery/engine set up as this S60 ?
Yup. I have one and it’s moooooves.
2023 Volvo S60 T8 Recharge eAWD R-Design Ultimate Black Edition!
How about a 2023 Lexus RX500h?
Way higher price point! $74k!
I have one and it’s faster without one pedal drive
What's availability like for PHEV Volvos?
Polestars arrive in a couple months, but I'm not sure about Volvo. Apparently it can be up to or over a year for some models.
can only speak about Poland, but ordered one in June 2023, expected arrival - March/April 2024 😖
Does an option exist for you to be able to see the RPM level of the petrol engine?
Put it in power mode and you have a rev counter.
@@zeedustrakok thanks for the info
Volvo has gone dark and moody with this black edition of the S60 Recharge
450hp outta 4 cylinders im sure these will last a real long time. bring back 5 cyls and rwd
312 hp out of 4 cylinders. The rest is the battery.
Just killed off for USA. Goodbye S60 :(
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