Why Are Fandoms So BAD?
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- There is an endless case of fandoms such as Five Nights at Freddys, Rick and Morty, and Undertale that become bad or toxic without any real reason to why it became bad or toxic in the first place. In this video, we'll theorize what causes so many fandoms and communities to turn sour.
DISCLAIMER: Do not send any hate to anyone involved in these fandoms. I am also in no way encouraging hate towards anyone or anything mentioned above.
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What do you think is the WORST and BEST fandom or community?
Most of them are bad
I’m stuck at home
Best is probably Kirby and worst is either Jojo , persona and smash bros
Ok ngl, the furry fandom is probably the most welcoming community-
Undertale ez
2 characters: we hate eachother
The fandom: let’s make them love eachother
Example: Rohan x Josuke
A diffrent example chara x sans
Mha fandom in a nutshell
@TheGreatPapyrus Giorno x Abbachio
@@jskylar5958 I never knew that existed lolll, people actually ship them!?
If you don't have Twitter, by default you get to avoid 90% of all toxicity in every fandom.
How so?
@@Ebh55.Once a person on Twitter said that if they got pregnant and found out it was a boy they would abort it just because of it's gender it got thousands of likes. Twitter tries to cancel Mr beast because he paid for ten thousand peoples surgery to not be legally blind and made a video about it to get more money to help more people Twitter got mad at it.
That’s an absolute win for me! I have no twitter!
I have no twitter or x or something
Bob likes something
He makes polite suggestions
He appreciates the thing he likes
He says his flaws about the thing he likes
Be like Bob
I can be like Bob
I like kpop
I know the industry is messed up
Some fans are even more messed up
The artists are humans too
It's ok for other to not like it, and it's ok if I don't like others' music tastes
Is it good ? :D
@@kusuossecretgf5401 I’m proud of you
@@Salithin thanks :D
@revali's gale 😁
Mad respect to bob
Be like bob
2 characters: * made eye contect for 0.1 microsecond *
Fandom: *S E X N O W*
lmao.
That's accurate.
I find it ironic that 2 members of the Undertale fandom, one of the most toxic fandoms of all time, and one of the most notorious for ships, have replied to a comment about the problem, and agreed with the comment. It shows that there are good people in the fandom, but there will always be others that ruin the experience. Honestly, this is just proof that fandoms can be positive and negative, at the same time, on the same level.
Edit: Just fixed a grammar mistake.
@@w_ring as Joseph said, yes there are a lot of toxic people in the fandom, especially if we’re talking about undertale, but it is a relatively small percentage of it that has those characteristics. Still you can see a lot of them messing around and being, well, them, but that’s because the fandom grew up so big that even 10 percent of it means thousands of people being that toxic part. And liking it or not, they have a bigger presence than the nice part.
Not judging or attacking you, just adding something I wanted to say
@@fabo-desu yeah but from seeing what... THINGS happen over there made me have to bleach my eyes 193 times. I personally am a huge fan of Undertale and Deltarune and I love seeing the passion people have for these 2 indie games, but some people can get a little too passionate... and h*rny...
No fandom is perfect, let’s be honest
Yep
Of course!
Poyo!
@Kadir Garip Even the Mario fandom has toxic fans, so no, is not perfect at all
_"Hard to swallow pills"_
Fandoms always be shipping every single character they see.
Yes true BUT DON'T FORGET PIGGY ROBLOX
its even worse when its real people. I'm apart of the bts fandom and imagine how uncomfy the boys are knowing that people ACTUALLY believe that they're dating.
Person A: *Beats up*
Person B: *Chokes slams Person A*
Shippers: OMG they love each other Its canonical
Yeah, thats what is bad about EVERY fandom.
@Sowf Echo MHA?
here's a good tip for everyone, just try to ignore the haters and toxic fans, answering them makes it worse.
Love how the top comments are hating on shippers and the one comment I’ve found which gives good advice to stop toxicity has like 7 likes 👌
@@manybees9712 I don't mind ships really as long as they're not too weird or too impossible to actually happen, like, when I see a ship, I want it to atleast make the slightest of sense
It works every time!
Do not feed the trolls
"Always works"
- Whiteッ
“I don’t watch anime”
“That’s okay”
*Like that’s ever gonna happen*
"Anime if for kids"
the real history is
"I don't watch anime"
"Watch it or die"
I don’t like anime
or
"i watch anime"
"you piece of subhuman trash"
@@NotJohnTanner neither i do
I think lots of fandoms are toxic because of a group mentality that causes people to worship the group or else you will be "Not a true fan"
Mhm! If you make ocs in the danganronpa fandom, your instantly a “normie” 😔
@@curlyhaircupid hello there fellow DR fan c:
It’s the same mentality as people that become too religious or devoted to a political ideology tbh
I mean take Undertale, as if you don't like a character or ship you know some people are probably going to attack you. But then you have the music and the creators that push through that to make good content and those are probably the best people in those communities.
This, like any group mentality, is what we evolved to have.
Belonging to a group and keeping out the perceived outsiders is what led to increased survival as well as acceptance by other members of our groups.
It’s something that a very rare few are able to avoid, but for the rest of us, we aren’t free of this group mentality, no matter how big or small it is.
God undertale’s fandom is so f*cking toxic sometimes, it’s just funny skeleton and good music
Basically, yeah.
It’s really sad that people ruined the game and everything for undertale overall.
cockroach flavored despair they didnt ruin the game. They ruined the community. The game is still a masterpiece just avoid the cesspool that is the fandom
Comics
Fan arts
Parodies
Fan Made games
Fan Made AUs
They all are about Sans.
Joshou they didn’t ruin the game, yeah, but it ruins the experience, if you know what I mean
Toxic fans and haters make it bad. But I still like it even though I'm not part of the fandom.
As a person whos been in many Fandoms for the past years
Let's face it, no Fandom is safe, there's always something that ruins it, like the UA-camr said, the smallest percentage that ruins it all, they will always be relevant in the most active communities
Not all things in a Fanbase are bad, don't get me wrong! As a person in the Undertale Community, that Fanbase has it's share of toxic members and trash but some of it is good, like the Fan-Animation Contributes, or the Good Fanart that shows the beauty of the game! I personally love the game for what *IT* has done and not dislike it for what other's have done to ruin it, my love for that game is undying!
However, there is no blaming one side, everyone and anything has a downside, nothing will ever be perfect no matter how much we want it to be! When it comes to considering yourself apart of a Fanbase, consider yourself apart of the good side that embraces the best side of the Fandom and not the worst!
Edit:
I'd also like to say, every Fandom is bad in it's own way, but you shouldn't focus on the bad, do't let others kill your love for whatever Fandom you're in, embrace your love for what you like and never let people ruin it
Yeah, same goes with Touhou fandom. The good side keep remixing music till today and the bad side keep making hentai till today.
@@dakotabless4800 what're you talking about?
Both the music side and doushinji side are good lol
@@BloodEevee Nyeh, not all the doujinshi side are good in Touhou
For example, Yukkuri sub-fandom is literally hellhole, even for average Touhou fan or newbie fan
@Queena Yang As someone who doesn't consider themselves to be part of that community anynore, that's basically the one of reasons I 'left' it.
_(Seriously the gacha community is full of dramas as well, but you could still find gachatubers who are nice. It's good that only the minority of the gacha community are toxic, but I wouldn't consider those people who make videos that are not-so-kid-friendly like gacha heat, part of the community. I dare say that they're a disgrace for making videos like that. The gacha community mostly consists of minors in it and it's not helping that some people who might be minors as well make an inappropriate video.)_
I'm not in the same fandom but I've been in worse fandoms
I love how the doom and animal crossing communities are literal polar opposites like how the doom fandom are the most inventive, talented people I could find on a gaming community literally porting this decades old game to things like calculators and fitbits and just anything while animal crossing at a point had a animal black market and was toxic to the point of rivaling Rick and morty at its height
Everything changed when the Verlisify tribe attacked...
@@technospyform1578 why and who is verlisify?
@@Luis-xj8el don't look it up, you're better off not knowing
True on that one!!!
A lot of that has to do with Doom being emotionally detached and lacking characters to become attached to and obsess over. Doom is about shooting demons, whereas Animal Crossing has far more personal investment and outlets for vapidity, if that makes sense. Even moreso with any property involving drama and romance, people are going to latch onto anything that makes those fatherless neurons tingle.
Undertale fandom be like: Skeleton hot lets ship him with everyone and make different version of himself but most of them are edgy.
I have no idea why that’s the case.
Sans is a jokester who likes ketchup, judges you for your XP and LV, and serves as a both a joke enemy and a final boss for one of the endings.
I like Asriel more because he has more of an impact to the story AND has a pretty tearful goodbye in the end. He also reminds me a bit of Toroko, who had a tragic end and made me want to kill the main antagonist of the game she came from even more.
@nightsky It's weird.
@nightsky there’s more to his character than that but
To each their own
More like goat lol.
@nightsky It isn’t that it’s because of his laziness, and nihilism, since that’s rentable to a lot of people, including me.
“Imagine yourself as a good human being”
nobody is a good human being, we all know nobody has never done anything bad
Unrealistic. Unsubbed.
I can't
Even for a human that is impossible
Sorry, i can't relate
@@DeactivatedAccount32871 depands, are you a citizen of an EU country and went to a separate EU country or anything like that or are you an illigal immigrant?
How to not be a toxic fan: Remember that the internet is not your life, it is merely entertainment in order to give you a break from the work that you are doing irl. Spend less time on your computer/ phone and give more things for you to do in real life in order for you to deserve that break.
Then once you are back on the internet you tend to take things less seriously, and you will be able to differentiate the internet from your real life.
well im going back to my trash bin, see ya
sorry for the joke, i understand ya. i got a story im slowly working on day by day, it keeps me occupied but i go to youtube a lot for entertainment. thanks for your advice.
Basically, to all you toxic stans out there, go touch some grass.
(Joke no offense)
Well said. Agreed.
Yes.
Almost any single fandom:
OMG 2 CHARACTERS KILLING AND BEATING THE SHIT OUTTA EACHOTHER OMG THATS SO CUTE, THEY LOVE EACHOTHER SO MUCH UWU!!!!!!!!
OwO
hey fluffy boi
Mha moment
You forgot the 60 something more uwu's and owo's
[SLIGHT MHA S2 SPOILER!]
**Bakugo beating the hell out of Ochaco at the sports festival**
Mha fandom:
*Lets ship them*
As toxic as the undertale fandom can be, I'm always impressed by how high-quality a lot of its fan-made content is, it's so impressive and it blows my mind with how talented a lot of fans are
Yes, glitch tale for example.
Don't care, the entire steam community beats that.
@sourcreampringles yeah its been 6 yrs
I hope your referring to the non toxic part
That's because everyone in that fandom, toxic or no, is incredibly passionate about the game. While that may lead to some amazing fan games/animations/comics, it can also lead to vitriolic attacks whenever someone criticizes their game, and/or insults a popular content creator within. On the flip side, people who played Undertale and didn't really enjoy it can get infuriated by the dedicated fans liking something they don't and wasting so much time and effort on something that's "trash and generic'. This is the reason why the Undertale Hatedom is also one of the largest, bitter, angry, and rabid hatedoms out there.
"You are not a 'REAL' Fan of a game, if you haven't called it a "Total piece of shit/garbage" and kept playing"
-Some guy I cant remember
I felt this in my soul
... Does that mean I'm a Sims 4 fan? I really should burn this buggy game.
Hotline Miami?
Me playing Metroid Fushion
ayo hi twin
i’m an active member of a couple fandoms. what it boils down to is a lot of kids who haven’t usually engaged online a lot who are without adult supervision for the first time. enjoying a fandom is all about curating your experiences there. if i see someone involved in drama, i block them, no questions asked and no hard feelings. i’ve got pretty strict boundaries, i mostly follow adults, and if i realize that a fandom is stressing me out, i leave. i’m okay with disagreeing with people i follow as long as they respect my opinion and i respect theirs. fandom is almost always a dumpster fire, but if you look in the right places, it can be an enjoyable and non-stressful dumpster fire.
Couldn't have said it any better!
When I started playing Genshin impact back shortly after it was released the fandom was really nice
Now today where the game has gotten so huge
The fandom has gotten so BEYOND toxic
I'm convinced I'd get poisoned if I'd look at it for long
I love the game and play it with friends but I wouldn't touch the fandom anymore
Considering everyone's just trying to tell others what to do, who to ship etc.
I really loved your video, it's amazingly well explained
Thank you for this
I think toxic fandoms come from people trying to be “unique”. People want to join fandoms for the same reason people may want to join clubs, they not only get to meet with people who share the same interest, but they get to part of something “exclusive” to a relatively few number of people. However when something goes mainstream, like Rick and Morty or FNAF, that feeling of exclusivity dies off since if everyone is a fan, no one is. This forces the creation of “criteria” being met in order to qualify as being a “true fan”, creating the self-entitled people you see in toxic fandoms today.
Hmmmm. I get your point
I have a really bad story about fnaf, so when i was of 8, fnaf came out, and i watched and played it and seemed like a cool game to me, then fnaf 2 3 and 4 came out and the game was kind of scary to me so i left fnaf when i turned 11, and when ffps came out, i joined again, and wanted to go on a discord server to see what people thaught of it and the only thing i got was sheer horror what i didnt know at the time, and i never joined the fandom again and just watched dawko and 8-bit rayn play these games and sometimes play fnaf fan games, jesus christ horror game to porn show
@@overse7938 whoah, how did that happen? Like how could horror turn into that? What's up with people?
@@Enzed_ ikr?
@Михајло Јовановић The 4 horsemen of Fnaf NSFW
1. Robo chicken
2. Spider mom
3. Bunny fangirl
4. Just a rabbit
(My guess, never went on fnaf 34 cuz i want to just enjoy the game)
“Character is good.
But it can be gayer.”
-fandoms
edit:
hah you thought i was gonna say “oH mY goD!! tHaNKs fOr tHe liKes!!!!1”?
anyway i do not remember when i made this comment so
Somebody can turn this into a poem....
*stares at Luz and Amity*
S e c k s
*stares intently at the Edgeworth and Wright ship*
~furry fandom in a nutshell~
"Look at this character"
"It smells like shipping"
Most fandoms
I've been in a lot of 'toxic' fandoms (Undertale, DSMP, FNaF etc.) and although there are a few bad ones all the people I've met were lovely and the some of the content is so good and well made!
I stayed tf away from undertale fandom. Amazing game tho.
@@letsBrn that’s true! The game is amazing! I just joined the fandom a few months ago and I don’t know everything about all the alternative universe is in every characters backstory in these alternative universe!
And I don’t know any other person from this community that much
@@Suki_The_Gothstar stay away before THEY come.
@ehh_2 It's the most complicated part yeah, but there's a moment where we kinda feel a logic in it
And I've probably fallen to deep in the fandom of Undertale
Omg same here
Name a more toxic community change my mind:
[EARTH]
space, because it has cancer causing radiation emitted from the stars
@@FowlorTheRooster1990 I……. I’m not surprised
H.e. Double. Hockeysticks
the sun its just too hot. 🥵
Yea.
"A man on his own is intelligent, a man in a crowd is an animal"
huhh humans are animals....
Introverts be like: *B R A I N. P O W E R.*
big brain
@Desired101 revolutions rely on the masses being animals in groups but it needs some people on their own to actually manage the animals
I need this on a T-shirt
**Reads title*
Honestly, I imagine it’s because of how big they become in the internet age. No fandom is inherently toxic. But the larger it grows, the more people join (obviously), and the higher chances are you run into someone who is toxic.
I was even going to mention that I'm surprised he didn't mention that. I feel like fans can be pretty toxic on their own, but once they meet several other toxic fans online...
The touhou and terraria fandoms are some of the chillest I've ever seen
tohou players too busy dodging rain and terraria players are too busy arguing with minecraft players to fight amongst themselves
Touhou,the insane bullet hell game,has a chill Fandom
I'm just suprised
@@coldore6734 I'm rather new and I've only seen the good side
@@godzillafinez4370 okie,i hope it stays good but im being too hopeful probably
@@godzillafinez4370 same :DD
the worst thing I've seen about touhou is how expensive Fumos are. I live in europe and a Sakuya Fumo costs like over $200 and I want one so bad
Did you ever hear the tragedy of the Star Wars fandom?
I thought not. It's not a story Disney would tell you. It's a Lucasfilm Legend. The Star Wars fandom was one of the largest and solid fandoms in history. So large and so united, they could share with each other their thoughts, feelings, and creations to bring in new fans. They had such a knowledge of Star Wars, they could all discuss their opinions with facts and logic on either side of a discussion. The unification of a fandom is a pathway to many abilities some considered to be unnatural.
It became so large, the only thing that could happen was for it to shrink. Which, eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, when Disney bought Star Wars, they decanonized everything before, and made a new set of movies that divided the fanbase over a period of 3-5 years, leading to the fandom being abandoned by many as it grew into an all-out war between the remaining fans. Ironic. Disney raised the Star Wars brand, but that caused its downfall.
Is it possible to repair this fandom?
"Not from Disney"
@Arthur Morgan What can we take away from this and Disney’s history? They should never make sequels. Ever.
I’m the 99th like. Heh, I’m a soldier. like you.
@@BrickMonkeyYT This is what you were bred for
What a tragic tale
Moral of the story: Never have an opinion online
No never have a "wrong" opinion
@@Mr.Tw1sty your opinion is wrong
@@dumbchannel1430?
@@dumbchannel1430 did you just have an opinion! Sorry but you can’t do that (cocks shotgun)
Some angry people because I speak badly about something they like will not stop me.
Even if those "some" are millions.
I got really into Persona and got back into Ace Attorney at almost the same time and the difference between how frustrating the Persona fandom is and how chill the Ace Attorney fandom is is like kind of incredible honestly
The Persona fandom has a lot of chill people but there’s so much arguing about stupid shit in a way that isn’t fun that like Ace Attorney has to a lesser degree but is way wayyy better about because people from what I’ve seen tend to be more tolerant of others’ opinions
All whats popular shreds to end, it never stops and keeps on going no matter how popular it is.
Take it as an example, the Gacha Fandom.
It started off really well and the community was pretty polite at first but once you were able to customize characters and make your own films like in Gachaverse to Gacha Club, people began to go very trendy with it and at first, their creativity was fine but then it either began to involve other fandoms into their films or just simply copy the films that are trending in the community.
Part of the fandom either started getting really immature with their content or they're also starting to produce sexual content in, and that's when it started ruining the fandom since other fandoms or even theirselves started making fun of it.
And the last time I joined the official discord of Lunime, in my opinion. Most of people there acted very bizarre.
I would be wrong but this is how I see it in my opinion.
I mainly use Gacha Club for character creation due to lack of free resources that make characters that look like anime. I agree and I'd like to keep my use of it at that.
I have gacha club installed just to make my ocs and stuff. Though I want to get better at drawing/editing so I can completely leave gacha and maybe start a channel
@@pixeledroses4162 Hey, same!
Gacha was really just the leftover slides from elsagate looking for a new host to infect. It was doomed from the start
Toxic Fandoms are a great example of *_"The Loudest Minority VS The Quietest Majority"_*
Ask me how I know this is true. Go on. Ask.
It’s sad how in one of my fandoms an illegal ship is in the majority 😔
@@Micro- no
@@nekoshka7985 ok
@@Micro- how
Fandoms are the reason I don’t like telling people I like stuff
Same lol
I like copper ingots
@@VoicesOfTheVoid. hmm nice
Same, I wanna like it.
Same I just be quite half the time about what i like
Kind people: *exist*
Fandom: Let's make them evil/mean
Example: Chara, Uraraka, Momo, Sakura(i know she did something horrible but she's still nice)
@Andrew Beard
Spoiler alert!!
chara is not a bad person. In the end of genocide run, the only thing they did is to punish us players and in post pacifist ending, they only wanted to make us pay for what we done. They never forced us to kill. Frisk is the person we control in the game but idk if canon frisk is kind, evil, or neutral
@@Heidie23 i hate when people make uraraka and momo bad people because they're in the way of a different ship. mha's fandom is literally 90% shipping and 10% poor kids who just want to have fun.
@@anyuisnotanya yeah. They never watch or read the manga
The opposite is true too: let's justify a terrible human being because we like them.
Korekiyo for example. Sure, he's a serial killing psychopath, but his sister abused him! And the only real evidence for this is the fact she was older than him.
@@lukebytes5366 yeah. Also example the league of villains in my hero academia. They have horrible backstory but they are villains and put the entire city especially ua in danger but some people making them "uwu who can't hurt a fly"
This is a nice take tbh! You put so much effort compared to the others! I've been in the fnaf fandom for a long time! I've met alot of toxic people and got harassed. It's awful. But it would never change my mind about the game. But thank you for being so polite and understanding about it.
this is why i like small fandoms, less people = less assholes
the best example of this is Earthbound, thats one of the best fandoms ive been
And Yume Nikki fandom.
Omori
Pikmin
Mh Stories, Songbird Symphony
Yeah, I'm in a tiny fandom about a niche Swedish sci-fi show, and I can tell you it's absolutely awesome and there's no toxicity to be found!
"Imagine yourself as a good human being"
Let's not get too crazy.
I want to imagine myself as someone like Mr Rogers
@@silverflight01 u are a Mr Rogers
Who said anything about being human?
I don't want to be a good human being
I just want to be a good being
Fandoms are kinda like cults
I imagine that the Steven Universe fandom was so traumatizing to the internet, that we have just repressed it, and that’s why it’s not in the video.
I, for some reason, always thought that 'stans' were actually called 'stands', as in Jojo stands.
So, in other words, I thought 'stans' were just one big Jojo joke that I didn't under *stand*
I just. I. That's beautiful idk why.
Now **Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders episode 9 **14:26****
IM LITERALLY AUDIBLY WHEEZING RIGHT NOW PLEASE
Same tbh
After all, the world is a JoJo reference.
I think a lot of the issues stem from the fact that a happy fan is a quiet one. The toxic fans will complain and pick fights whenever they can which inflates the perceived size of these people and taints the general view of the fandom.
That makes so much sense and it explains everything!
Vocal Minority vs Silent Majority
I like to think of it as 1 guy screaming and 99 people just sipping tea. Who ya gonna pay attention too?
This is true in most things. And it really is as simple as saying "calmer people talk less." People who, due to varying reasons, are more prone to anger, can't control their emotions, or don't know good self control, tend to have more "stage presence" and act more loudly. You can imagine a fandom like a room full of people. The creepy, weird, and obnoxious ones are going to garner the most attention, while the quiet, nicer people hide in the corners away from them. This is true for practically any form of human gatherings, however in real life there's a lot more incentive to hide your weird-ness and act civil. In real life, you can also police who enters your group and who doesn't, whereas online, any sick f*ck could just claim they're part of a fandom and drag down it's image.
Unfortunately, the solution(s) are either non-viable, or involve lots of rules that nobody will like, like "gatekeeping." And unlike real-life gatherings, there's no "officials" who can police/control things, so the decisions have to be made by the fandom members themselves, making it hard to enforce rules. Other solutions would be to censor things so that people with problematic personality quirks (from something as small as anger issues, to as vile as them being a p*doph*le) wouldn't be allowed to take part in the fandom. That would be problematic however, due to violating free speech. Some forums/fandoms have mods who can kick/ban people who break rules, but it's the internet, meaning those people can simply go somewhere else. There is no "internet jail" for the sick-minded, nor an asylum for the mentally un-well.
@@Kromiball it’s even worse when the majority suck, and when I mean majority I mean everyone sucks
Long story short: To be a good fan, you have to realize that nothing is perfect, and not everyone has to like it. My friend is a Toxic Minecraft Stan. He doesn’t accept the flaws, and it’s the only game he plays.
The subreddits of fandoms are the WORST. Word of advice, if you love something TAKE EVERY MEASURE to avoid the subreddit for that thing, never go near it. A huge portion of the toxic fanbase when it comes to anything resides in reddit wiping each other's asses. Reddit as a whole is already horrible enough but when it comes to fandoms for video games and such it's EVEN WORSE. There is nothing I hate more than a redditor at this point.
Every Fandom has a bad side. No Exceptions kid. NONE.
@@alexbalan2728 It said EVERY FANDOM. I'm even a furry and there are some bad things going on with it.
What cwallifys as a random?
@@axolme9289 Do you mean qualifies? And I'm not even sure what you mean by "a random" given it has no context here.
Wait. Did you mean "what qualifies as a fandom?" If so, anything that people enjoy and thus discuss is a fandom. Fan created content aren't a necessity.
@@alchemysaga3745 it's a lot of spelling errors and thanks
Tetris.
Mha fandom: OKAY I ORDER EVERY SINGLE MALE CHARACTER TO BE GAY! MAKE SURE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE GETS LOTS OF HATE.
As anakin once said: And not just the men but the women and children too!
That's... fair.
The MHA fandom has issues.
@@eduardofeijolle8049 while part of it, I hate most of the fandoms on the games and shows I like and i am always making jokes on how weird these people are
@@zabz955 Yep
Hah. Yea.
Fandoms in Real Life: Mostly Positive
Fandoms Online: A Fucking Minefield
Best fandoms: avatar, the owl house and Inazuma Eleven (the Inazuma Eleven fandom is probably because the fandom is so small)
They're just the nicest I've been in
In my experience, the Avatar fanbase has been by far the worst
Seems like you dont know of the avatar ship wars
oh the double edged sword of being in a small anime fandom. no toxicity ruining what you love, and no second season either
Sounds like Netflix
there's also the community being dead/only 25 people in it
@@expertarcher8542 yes there is the garfield show on netflix and for some reason it has only a single season
Even the most wholesome fandoms have toxic fans
For example: sanders sides is a very wholesome series about mental health with a great fanbase. Almost all fans are nice and calm. And then you have the very small amount of fans that ship two characters that are brothers. Incest. In such a wholesome fandom.
Some people just always have to step in and ruin it.
Yeah, It's pretty lame.
This is so true! And even in undertale some people ship Sans and his brother but also Chara and her brother!
@@They.luvv.ly3aa yeah people are insane
Yeah- And didn’t Thomas say that RemRom makes him uncomfortable?
@@TONvlogs314 im pretty sure he did
Me, a proud member of the Sonic Fandom: Ya know. Things like this aren’t that bad!
Even almost a year later, this video still holds up super well. Although there are some points which I feel like are debunked because of more recent fandoms but still, those are few and far between. Gonna save this and come back another year later and see if it'll hold up!
Friday Night Funkin' is gonna fall into this trap, I'm calling it right now.
Too late
Welp, already been
And....it did...
"Anyways, wanna see my Pico X BF fanart?"
It already has my friend, it already has..
Have you heard of the sky mod? Oh well if you haven't you're in for a wild ride.
*I dislike Steven Universe*
Now we wait.
As part of the fandom. That's okay, like what you like! Everyone has their own personal preferences.
Tho if anyone bothered u bc you're just expressing your opinions, I am very, _very_ sorry. (It's always hard to ignore _that_ part of your fandom.)
GrrRrRrrrR....HOW DAR U NOT LIEK STEVN UNIVRSE...?.?.??1?1?1?1?1?1? SMH REPORTED AND DISLIKRD!!!1!1!1!1!
HoW dArE u HaVe An OpInIon!!!!!1!!!1!1!!1 DiSlIkE
As somebody who’s a su fan I’m fine with ppl not liking it and if they talk about it saying garbage and lazy I just scream in the inside
Steven universe is a big part of my childhood but I can see why people dislike it. The diamond arc just fell completely flat...
Alright i respect that. I admit the show had flaws. Like making us waiting with filler episodes instead of actually following the main plot.
Characters: exists
Fandom: 🚢
Welcome to the My Hero Academia fandom were any and every body is shipped together
Brother×Brother? Ship it
Villain×Hero? Ship that
Adult×Minor? Ship this
At this point about 50% is just very annoying fans but then I've seen alot of fans who were very nice and extremely respectful for your opinion. Honestly I just hope that once the series ends the fandom will calm down and become a little more chill.
Bully and victim: Ship it
Killer and victim: ship it
Enemies/rivals: ship it
Everything is ship instead of focusing to manga and anime
They do all that but they can't ship a boy and girl
If you go to among us and look at US servers theres a fuckton of mha servers
@@ballsdeep7056 im quit aware
And not only are people excessively shipping, they're attacking people who don't ship their ship or worse, if they ship a rival ship.
My friend is a fan of Gravity Falls, and sometimes she'll look up Mabel and Dipper. But sometimes, in the complete sentence thing, it says Mabel x Dipper. People are shipping fictional cartoon characters from a kids show, that are literal 12 year olds and are siblings. Why???
As someone who is into weird shit i find msbel and diper in all sorts of weird places when not even searching for them. People are trash
Oh hell no
Thats... Gross.
reminds me about the sans x papyrus ship
thats disgusting
"The Internet was a mistake."
- Snas Undertail
Lol, "Snas"
oh god not undertail
indeed it was.
S N A S
@@theswampbeast65 FROM U N D E R T A I L
Remember when that one young girl got bullied off deviant art because she drew rose quartz with a BMI of 32 instead of the preferred 38? I know you've heard it before, and it's probably even been brought up in this comment section, but that's because it's such a good example of this phenomenon
what do you mean by a "32" and "38"?
you earned a sub! i appreciate your unique style of story telling, drawing and placing on your board 1 by 1, feels like youre actually story telling in a classic style. love it!
also on my experience its ducktales17 and disney cartoons franchise.
the Internet has progressed to the point that there are fandoms against things. Anti-fandoms, if you will.
like matter and antimatter.
and they are usually worse than the fandom they are an anti to, like the antifurry fandom
@@SpitzThe anti-antifurry fandom and so on
@@SpitzThe correct. theres a bunch of assholes who harrass me on steam for being a furry.
And there are a lot of toxic anti-fandom fans
You asking: "Why Are Fandoms So BAD?"
Me asking: "Why Are Humans So BAD?"
That just isn't funny
And if u tell me it wasn't a joke then what was it?
@@moneytree8963 It's funny because it's generally to a certain degree true.
I hate shipping fandom
The answer:god left us years ago
Makes more sense.
Rather than defame the entire fandom, defame the people that *MADE* the fandom look bad.
Reminder to fandoms: don’t ship people if they hate each other ( Tom and Tord for example), and don’t ship people to the same gender if they’re obviously straight and has been stated that they are straight by the creator itself ( my hero academia for example).
I mean, as long as they aren't real i think it's fine shipping two character that hate each other lol
@@movedchannels3680 Tom and Tord are both based on real life people. The character themselves were literally trying to kill each other. People shouldn’t fantasize about toxic relationships because it’s unrealistic and damaging.
@@lillemon7633 Oh, I didn't know that. Yikes, I get what you mean now
I’m really into a fairly small fandom and i’m always torn between wanting the piece of media to get more popular because it’s really good and wanting it to stay smaller so the fandom doesn’t become toxic. I’ve already seen some pretty cringey stuff already and i just don’t want the fandom to be taken over by that :/
Also i’ve found that usually fandoms of horror media are pretty welcoming and wholesome!
This is why I like being a Bionicle fan, because nobody else even knows what I'm talking about.
Eh, let's not forget how some people would start arguing which lego theme was "the best"
And I also do know what you're talking about
Haha Hero Factory go burrrrr
Dude i have a huge box full of them and i still build different bionicels out of others to this day.
i havent heard that name for years
but im gonna rewatch it
This is why I like being a don’t starve fan lol
I find it really sad that the toxic part of the community has to ruin the experience for newcomers and the nicer sides of the fandom.
rhythm game players: haha fnf bad players lol
tokaku (youtuber): they are noobs, total noobs. what did you expect, some 10 year old child who's never played a rhythm game to know what chordjacks are?
rhythm game players: oh shoot, we were dissing on children. ok now we help them get into rhythm games for real
I have not found anything wrong with the slime rancher community
@@jvpro2076 sounds probable
@@yukko_parra well, I'm not actively looking for it
@@jvpro2076 sounds logical
I saw someone say once that a reason for large fandoms often ending up toxic is a 1% rule (or whatever other small percent), basically that there's always a small percentage of people that are gonna be toxic, and they're always going to be some of the loudest. Smaller fandoms can better handle these types of people; a niche fandom with around a thousand people for example will only maybe have a dozen people like this, a group which can easily be distanced from and can't sustain themselves. With larger fandoms, these groups are also much larger, and they're much harder to deal with well, especially since in large fandoms they can end up being completely self-sustaining. For example, a large, hundred thousand people group might have a thousand toxic people, as many as some small communities/fandoms.
Fandoms these days ruin everything, more than the creators and/or studios ever will.
Can we all agree that Kirby community is just one of the most wholesome gaming communities out there.
Yes I love the game and the video his so cute
Everything about Kirby is a masterpiece
Straight facts
All the communities should be like the kirby community
No sex
No polemics
No hate
Just people having fun with something that they like 🤧✨
Yes, I have a friend who is a huge kirby fan, he is really soft spoken too!
I LOVE how every time people talk about toxic fandom In the thumbnail there is fnaf and undertale no matter what
Sweats in both games enjoyer
I WROTE THIS COMMENT ONLY 1 WEEK AGO?! i tought it was like 1month ago
I mean... I am permanently scarred for life by both fandoms so...
I deadass remeber seeing a nsfw comic of Freddy an Bonnie and idk man I wanna go back in time to tell myself I was a weirdo
I’m in the fnaf fandom and I have a friend who was in the undertale fandom. There’s a reason why the fandoms are so notorious for being toxic.
the toxic people in fandoms tend to cause so much drama and more spotlight that it will affect good ones in the fandom
for example MHA fandom ,it was known to be so toxic that if anyone says they're in it people will keep their distance from you online and irl
and then there's twitter...
Every fandom has two sides
I think that the toxic fans are most of the times the same people just "fandom hopping" to seek validation, attantion and escapism.
Toxic fandoms are usually ones that get massively popular so everyone is like "oh i have to go into that its poular!"
@@emabarlic3427 yeah it happened to the jojo random
i mean fandom hopping isnt always bad i always did it until i found vocaloid
@@GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY4 The idea of fandom hopping is not bad in it self, after all people will try to get into what is popular right now but, the problem is the people fandom hopping brings with it. This why in all fandoms there are the same kinds of awful people. Their just the same awful people from other fandoms.
2 characters: literally stabbing eachother to death
Toxic part of a fandom: look, they love each other so much
Brooo your right
@@shovel_salesman you're*
@@shovel_salesman Roy"'yu
Omori *cough*
aka Shippers.
I think when people focus on the bad part of a fandom they forget the bad people were probably crazy before they got into whatever the fandom is revolved around
This is a very important message I think! It seems like a “no duh” kind of thing but some people DEFINITELY need to hear this. Great vid! 👌
To all the people who made sans ocs: sans is a character, not a species
I just laughed so hard some parts of my brain came out my nose.
@@dustpanman2998 Are you alright?
@@paradoxtatorstudios9681
Nah.. that's a joke.
But outstanding comment tho.
@@MilkIsTheOne thx bro i was joking too lol
Omg the king.
the fact that “filthy casual” is an insult shows how bad some people are at having fun.
and no, i didn’t invent this saying. stole it from tumblr but i think it applies
STOP USING AK's YOUR HAVING TO MUCH FUN YOU FILTHY CASUAL AUTO USER
We use "Filthy casual" as a joke in the Phantom Forces (Roblox game) community with rank 73's joking around calling rank 200's casuals lmao
@@theguyyouknowandlove8932 eyyyy a fellow phantom forcer, i pissed off a rank 200 with the "d u s t s h o t t u b e" even though it sucks
@@Ilazie Are you the fabled BFG dustshot CEO?
Honestly the most negative experiences in fandoms I have are in those who either hate (ironically or otherwise) on some part of the source material (such as the Danganronpa fandom), the fandoms that seem to get really sanctimonious about the 'correct way' to enjoy the source material (such as Fate, at least in my experience), and the ones that get into endless fights about which character's the best and/or waifu wars (Quintessential Quintuplets traumatised me)
My personal least favourite fandom I've seen is the ToAru fandom, some people are chill but it's... hell on earth as it combines all three of the above traits and slams them together in the worst way possible- I love the series but every time I go anywhere near the fandom I feel all my enjoyment being sucked out of it, and that's just not right, I want to enjoy my damn fantasy/action/comedy series without someone complaining about how the MC is the worst, or how the adaptation is shit and the source material is the only proper thing you can read, or how one girl is better than the other, or how this major character is amazing whilst this one is shit...
Oh well, I suppose that's this rant over. But yeah, fandoms suck ass in a lot of ways
A good way to gauge whether a fandom may become toxic is to visualize the worst case scenario person to be attracted to the type of content that it is. How likely is it to attract antisocial behavior, how likely it is to be overly personable to certain people, or how likely it is to attract avid and vocal fetishists or fanfic writers.
Undertale fandom be like: ok so ship him with his brother aaand then make alternate versions of themselves just to ship them with each other again
sooo truee!!
You think that's bad? Tell me friend have you heard of... The Onceler Fandom?
@@rowanwhitethorn3047 no
@@koni5883 Well it's.... Uhhhh... They ship Oncler with himself....
Hell yeah bro I love insect and selfcast
I’m kinda late to the party, but I saw a lot of arguing in the comments (to be expected) and wanted to come and give an update on the Undertale fandom. I’ve been in it for 5 years and just recently became active in it again. Back in 2016 and 2017 there were definitely a lot of toxic fans, no denying that. When I checked in on it a couple months ago, though, it seemed like a lot of those people had moved on to other fandoms to corrupt. I’m not saying there’s no toxic fans left - there’s probably hordes of them lurking somewhere - but most of what I’ve seen as of recently is very positive and friendly, especially on Instagram! The art community I’m in also focuses on characters other than Sans so that’s great too lmao
@Rezakoplak ! You have my sympathies.
Ah. Of course it's the ONE fandom that has affected me the most. I mean, I stick to the creative/chill side of the Dream SMP/Team fandom so I wasn't really aware of that. Ngl, it's good to keep in mind that it's the toxic Undertale "fans"
@@itsgirlcraft5842 Those people's existence is why we can't have nice things.
@Feby Valencia yeah, when Minecraft YTs get popular they quickly fall into the toxic side of the fandom universe. I mean, I've only _heard_ abt all the problems in the Dream SMP fandom but if you stick close to your ideals you can keep the toxicity away
@@itsgirlcraft5842 Yup, that's why I stay away from "THAT side" in the Undertale fandom too.
There is a lot of cool stuff in it if you focus on the non-toxic side, but "THOSE people" really ruin it.
It really saddens me.
But what can ya' do?
This is the problem with fandoms nowadays! seeing how any fandoms now are becoming so bad! like ones that are cringey or ones that are toxic though.
But yet we even have things that have their own fandoms turn from being cringey to toxic! from seeing the two games five nights at freddy's and fortnite
The two games I know of that did used to have cringey fandoms I remember but turn to toxic that I never find that to be a good sign to see those fandoms.
Turning from cringey to toxic which even I can see how bad fandoms can give those things bad rep and even bad fandoms can be one of the main reasons
Why those things get hate! which I even can see how bad fandoms can actually affect those things to be honest.
FNAF fandom is either toxic as heck or cool as heck.
As someone in the fandom, i gotta 100% agree with that one.
Remember when the offical bts fan account yelled at Chris Evans for putting bts in place of behind the scenes?
Lmao what😭😭
lol what?? when was this-
oh boi don't make me remember _that-_
bruh what when-
im pretty sure that never happened since it happens a lot, we just comment about it
There's also people who stand in the middle, whether they are sometimes toxic and sometimes nice. Some only act the way they're beating treated; they are nice to nice people but toxic to toxic people. I honestly feel like I fall into this category, after all, treat others the way you want to be treated. Someone being an asshole to you? Return the favor, but don't take it a step too far.
I fall into that middle category too
I feel like it's the best category
Me to
Like personally I respect people's opinions on steven universe. After all, I can tell it's a very flawed show and not everyone's cup of tea. But then there's those people that just hate it,,, to hate it. No reason why, just because it's popular to hate it.
same
@@tunasalad9693 thats dumb as fuck, ive never seen it but i dont immediatly think its bad, atleast it has lore.
There was a girl in my class, and if you said *anything* remotely negative against BTS she would actually start throwing hands screaming, “YoUr RaCiSt” (Which isn’t the case) so each time, everyone had to explain that BTS isn’t their cup of tea
okay im sure not everyone? and im sure a lot of people like BTS but some of them keep a low profile. Like my brother,
Caught him tuning to BTS just recently when i thought he had no interest in them.I hope you actually focus in the good side of armys, we honestly contributed a LOT
the thing that stopped me from even stepping foot in certain fandoms is the people who multiship underaged characters with adults. this goes for five nights at freddies and undertale. i realised quickly that most communities will have immature audiences, and i understood that i had to avoid those people.
But what some people don't realise is that every single fandom will have their downfall, and will eventually blow up with a ton of teenagers. this goes for my hero academia or dsmp. and that fandom will rely on those teenagers to keep the community popular. But also, there is a minority that screw up that reputation. like most things, it will get backlash even for those who weren't part of that wrong doing.
toxic people are everywhere. from a workplace, to people behind a screen. there always will be someone to dislike a show, or the animation within a game or anime. people like that don't like others to have a different opinion, and sometimes that's the reality that comes with a fandom. and to avoid those people, we have to be vocal about how they are wrong, and not everyone within that fandom is like said person. this goes for genshin impact specifically.
if anything, tiktok and other social media websites are the root problem to these fandoms. problematic people will always find a way to ruin something for someone else. their actions get spread faster than any other platform, and outsiders would find it disgusting and push away the entire fandom instead of those individuals.
At least the games and shows tend to be good
Ayy, bit of positivity :)
I thought the games hot a bad rep cause of toxic gamers
@Sowf Echo Personally disagree. But yes, there are a lot of writing potholes, but the characters (and fucking aniMATION HAVE YOU SEEN THAT SHIT AHHHH-) often make it up for me when it comes to character development falling flat or the plot becoming redundant. I also think the fact I get hyperfixations too easy and cant let go of shows or characters doesn't uhm,,, help me. At all. But I _could_ go on a rant about the issues in writing still. I just uhm,,, won't be able to let them stop me enjoying the show and attaching myself to characters.
Yeah, like fnaf Is really good! Nobody likes to talk about it, but a lot of talent went into it. Same goes for undertale and SU.
@@lextheboogeyman7633 Yeah
A fandom video without mention of Sonic??
We've finally escaped!
I feel so fucking relieved. Like thank god...
"It's no use!"
For now..
@Duck *Might've?*
FREAKING FRICKS
Art.
Fanfiction.
Theories.
Memers.
Long ago, the four fanclans lived in peace. But then everything changed when the toxic whiny children attacked. Only the moderator, master of all four fan-elements, could stop them. But when we need them most, they vanished.
100 years later, me and my brother, the casual one, discovered the new moderator, a memebender named Chad. Although his memerbending skills are great, he has a lot to meme about before he can save anyone.
But I believe Chad can save the world.
MEMERATAR: THE LAST MEMER
TIP: If your part of a fandom…try not to get on the bad side of it..
Fandoms are always good at first.
But then the Rule 34 tribe attacked
long ago, the fandoms lived together in harmony
then, everything changed when rule 34 attacked
@@kymikaz4433 😂lol
Vibes... Memes... fandoms... Lag....
Long Ago, the 4 Community’s Lived
together in harmony.
Then, everything changed when the fandom r34 Attacked.
facts
@@kymikaz4433 mlp refrence
Honestly, i noticed people calling some UA-camrs their comfort characters on Twitter. That is extremely concerning considering that these are not characters, they are people. You can have a writer change details you don't like about a character, but you have to be a special kind of entitled to try to make a human being change not-so-negative things about their personalities.
Seriously?0_0..I think the human races is not well:/
And then they ship real people with real people. Shipping characters is KINDA fine as long as it doesnt break what i call DA RULZ (No gay ships if both characters are straight, no shipping characters who hate each other etc...) But shipping real people is just straight up wrong and messed up
@@RatchetTheCat the dream stans letterally do that... i don't have faith in umanity anymore
@@noodles9471 dream and George joke about it too, they also said they were fine as long as it didnt go to far. Not trying to defend the shippers but like I'm totally defending the shippers. Just not the ones who go too far.
Quackity stated Quackity is a persona, most YTers are somewhat like that?
The best community so far would be the speed running community, people cooperate to find game breaking glitches and so on, the people are friendly (in my experience) And people are pretty civil.
I do think size of the fandom plays a large part in toxicity. The larger the fandom, the more likely it is to be toxic.
hm that's true, coming from an army!
The law of fandom states “ The better the content, the larger the audience, the more creeps in that audience, and the more creepy stuff those creepy people create, all things being equal.”
I jus made this up XD
It's of course made up, yet it's fucking wise.
There's always good games that are just really small, though, like The Desolate Hope.
Fortunately, TDH only has good or neutral fan-made content.
Except for that one of Coffee in a maid outfit.
That one weirds me out.
You may have made this on the spot. But my god that is true.
Mha fandom in a nutshell
Yes
I think that toxic people have interpreted the word “fan” from “hey I like this” into “ I must be addicted to this”. For example, I am a fnaf fan but I have not played all of the games or maybe not know the full lore but I still enjoy the series and the content and this also applies to other fandom fans. I should not have to be addicted or know everything that is going on to be “a fan”.
i wished more people like you existed
Thanks man and I wish more people are respecting fandoms like you
That's gatekeeping
you know, if that's their interpretation, i would rather _not_ be a "true fan"
glad to find someone i agree with
they take "fan" as shorthand for "fanatic"
I am a firm believer that fandoms as a whole are good. Some are more toxic and unpleasant, but I feel most are chill and kind where it’s just a bunch of people who all share the same love for a piece of media. Great video! Lots of good points! ♥️♥️