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What's also incredible is that is HER legacy. The paid portions aren't freely available, so it's a given that what little we can get (and thank you @BeelzFlyLord for making sure this gets out there), gets clipped and shared around. And if THIS quality is what is put out there for free, it will drive more people to buy the tickets as well. But we all know, Bae is King
@@corvora0 yeah, you can tell they carefully selected who would be in the free portion to try and maximize hype. Giving full gen performances for the oldest and newest gen, having MCs by advent, giving strong solo performers like Bae and Irys show their stuff, etc.
You know, you joke, but Bae's performance at 5th Fes more or less WAS a breakdance, completely self-choreographed, and it was amazing! Bae could absolutely teach Raygun a thing or two. ;)
@@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133 I haven't been following the situation that closely, and have more or less given Raygun the benefit of the doubt that she was just trying to be avant-garde -- I mean, she couldn't have possibly made it to the Olympics if she didn't have SOME talent for breakdancing, right? She just made a very poor decision to try something... erm... "different" at the Olympic Games themselves! (Or maybe it was a good decision? I mean, if she'd just danced well, we probably wouldn't be talking about her; now, she's a legend that's renowned worldwide! Maybe for the wrong reasons, but hey, renown is renown, right?) Either way, I think we can all agree that Bae's moves completely smoked her! Bae is, I think, far more talented across the board than people realize... though they're coming to realize it as she blows away everyone's expectations more and more with every live appearance!
Now I want a side by side comparison of the Olympian and Bae captioned: An Australian rat idol vtuber VS Australia's Olympic Breakdancer I just want to see that disgrace get even more dogpiled on lmao
Australians dance committee really thought a dance PhD was their trump card 😂😂 Little did they know that the PhD wrote thesis about dance, but she never actually learnt to dance 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133 Wow, OK, so I can tell you are passionately opposed to her, and that's perfectly fine -- as I said, I haven't been following the situation closely, so I don't know if she's done anything criminal or underhanded or what. But please cool it with the personal attacks, OK? Giving someone the benefit of the doubt means being trustful, and assuming the best -- which is something I always try to do of others. Calling my morality into question because I refuse to hate someone -- particularly someone I know little about -- is completely out of line, and I should hope you don't exercise that sort of behavior with others as well. Life's too short to hate.
Ok, seeing a vtuber popping and locking is fucking wild. Those movements are subtle as hell but the motion tracking is finally good enough to capture some of it.
@@bananabunch4590 It will be awkward but you actually need to slow down the pop so that tracking can capture it. The reason subtle movement is missed by the tracker is because of the low frame rate.
@@kazedcat low frame rate? the cameras capture at 150FPS, 26.2MP. Yes, some subtlety will probably be lost to filtering (to compensate for any noise in the pose estimation) but the source frame rate is high.
I love Bae but kpop style dancing wouldn’t fly in a breaking contest. You need the unique footwork and power moves to compete. It’s a totally different skillset
@@franks777_KFP Most idols dance conservatively. If kiara and others actually for once just express their dance more, They could do what Bae does. Bae isnt doing anything complex for someone who can dance.
@@RhazOfRheos Yeah, most idols dance to give some added interest to the song. Bae looks like she's dancing to DANCE. She looks like she's really committing to the dance rather than just going through the motions in a rote fashion like a lot of the other do. No shade to the other Holo girls, but most of them don't really look like they consider the dance to be an equal part of the performance to me.
@@xjuggernaughtxx it kind of depends on the song they sing and who it is. Suisei dances relatively conservatively when shes solo, but when she's apart of a group, she can definitely show some worth while moves. not to mention some songs seems kind of hard to think of a "dance" for because they're either somber songs where dancing might feel weird (not to say they just stand around), or they might be too fast paced for the girls to both sing and dance to without sounding like they're exerting themselves.
@@RhazOfRheos I think it's important to remember that mocap is going to heavily limit what she can do, due to certain movements not doing well with tracking
@@RhazOfRheos Bae's def one of the better dancers I've seen in general think she was a sort of dancer before she did vtubing but I don't really know for sure. But out of every vtuber I've seen she definitely pushes the motion capture to its limits
@@scarr009 Didn’t she also say that if she was going to, she doesn’t want to perform it in her Idol outfit since she thinks Play Dice isn’t very “idol”-y?
@@scarr009 I think we know what that special circumstance would be. She'll get it soon, I'm sure of it! I wonder if Nerissa has the same plan, opting not to do "Say My Name"
@@SKarlet312 Kinda disappointed she didn't go for Say My Name tbh. That song has a great call and response angle to it that would be killer during a live performance.
What gets me is the absolute precision of her moves. Hard to say what I mean, but you can see that every movement she makes is controlled and exactly what she is wanting to do at that point in the routine. That's what allows her to do the things she does, because she knows where she is in the moment, where she wants to be next, and exactly what she needs to do to hit that point. And then she goes and makes it look effortless. XD
they dont dance and sing at the same time. in fact they neither dance, nor sing live at all. they record the performances and play those recordings at the concerts. the stuff in between songs, adressing and interacting with the audience is live though.
@@hunzukunz I’ve seen this said before but do we actually have confirmation? Some of it sounded like it was live. Like FuwaMoco’s performance on day 1 doing their original song. They had the backing track for backing vocals like they do at regular concerts for most artists and the audio didn’t sound recorded at all. Recordings have that distinct filter when compared to live audio. Listen to any song on a record then go look up that same song live. Of if you go to a concert listen to any song from that artist and then compare it to live audio at the show. Recorded audio is much clearer/cleaner. And in regards to the dancing I’ve seen some of the birthday performances as well as some of the past concerts starting with 3rd fest and during the segments in between songs when they would have the talents address the crowd right after they had been on “stage” they sounded very winded.
@@alexbelcher2206 the recordings for concerts are not the same as highest quality studio recordings. they are done specifically for the concerts. they are not as heavily edited, to retain some of that 'live' feel. obviously i dont know exact details, but they do some pitch corrections, timing edits etc., but they dont use a lot of effects. its still very obviously not live, because you can hear the impact that f.e. pitch correction has on the voices. specifically for the FWMC performance: the sound is very even, despite the dancing. so either they dont dance, or they dont sing. they dont sing, because it would sound very different, if it was live. even the best live-tuning tech would have them sound really unnatural. way more than the post editing you can do for prerecorded sound. (see Justin Bieber, BTS etc.) without live-tuning, they would sound more similar to how they sing during their karaoke streams. they also dont dance, because they are not out of breath at all immediately after the performance, when they talk to the audience. that would be impossible. so the whole performance is not live. just to make sure: thats perfectly fine and normal in the industry. most of the girls are also neither professional singers, or proffesional dancers. to get the most out of them and make it a great night for the fans, prerecording, with live segments in between songs, is definitely the correct decision. i dont think they ever officially claim, that those concerts are performed in real time. they just dont straight up say its prerecorded. dont forget, that they are, at least to some extent, play characters. and those characters are there, on the stage, singing and dancing for the fans. even if the real people are not actually on stage and performing live. maybe as a comparison: the Mori Calliope Solo Concert performance with Suisei, from ~2 years ago, was most definitely live. you can totally hear the difference, both in audio quality and in singing accuracy. as for proof, or confirmation: i dont know if there is 100% proof, but its as close to fact as you can get, without them straight up confirming it.
@@hunzukunz But without confirmation can you really say it isn’t live? I’m no tech expert when it comes to music but you say even professional audio techs would make them sound unnatural? If they’re professional they know what they’re doing so that makes absolutely no sense. And to bring up the FuwaMoco performance wouldn’t the techs want them to sound even? As for the performances themselves, the fact that the possibility to livestream them exists adds another point to say it’s live. Regular artists have done it so why wouldn’t Cover/Hololive? And to bring up another point, the adlibs during songs. All the girls do it and it’s more than just addressing the location of the performance. Yes they all have some call out to the crowd at the start of or during a song, but there’s also several times they throw something else in randomly.
@@alexbelcher2206 when it comes to tech, there are limitations to what can be done. even the best audio techs cant perform magic. live audio, atleast today, is still very much recognizable. no amount of equipment and expertise will make a prerecorded song not sound prerecorded. even if the techs would want them to sound even, that doesnt mean they can. there is physics involved, that you cant entirely counter act. you will hear uneven sound when people move around, especially when they dance. maybe some day in the future it ill be possible to do AI-assisted live-editing, that is unrecognizable, but thats not the case right now. regular artists have not done it. they either sing live and sound like they sing live, or they lip-sync, sing over backing tracks, or use live-tuning. all of those are pretty easy to tell apart. many of the concerts done by top pop-stars are not performed fully live, so that not a good argument. another very obvious point is simply looking at the singing skills of the talents. most of them arent all that good at singing., they simply would not be able to pull of a performance like that live, no matter how much they practise. maye 2-3 would get pretty close. if you try to go against all the evidence and claim those are live performances, you are basically at the level of someone claiming the earth is flat. technically could be true, but its a riddiculous stance to take.
Bae's dancing is so clean with such visible passion in every movement. Holo has some pretty good dancers now, but no one moves like Bae. Then she adds that growl into her vocals. Man that Rats great.
Bae got super into it towards the end. Also, the CHOREOGRAPHY. I want to imagine that it took her many tries to do it all in one go and along with the music.
@@mitchellhouser1572 compared to day 1 people were sitting on day 1 but on day 2 everyone was standing up and going crazy and the crowd felt more alive than day 1
That's something I was saying during the concert, too! The camerawork was SO much better than the last concert. They actually focused on the performers instead of cutting away to people in the crowd every 30 seconds. And last concert, doing that during Bae's performance is practically criminal.
@@Pseudowolf iirc they actually went back and replaced the original VOD of that concert on SPWN with a version with better camera-work within a couple days or so
Ive been saying for a while, Bae is severely unappreciated honestly. Shes an amazing performer all around. Her singing and dancing are actually incredible
Bae always knocks it out of the park, but this was her best performance yet. i can't stop watching it. even the camera barely changed angles this time, it's mostly a continuous shot from right down front. everything else fades away, there is nothing but her and the stage.
this rrat a killer I remember her being so tired when waking up to stream that she'd just burst into tears. Guess this is what she was training so hard for. You don't get those moves from a cereal box.
Everyone there live was reaching unreal levels of hype during Bae's preformance, I can't imagine what it was like watching the free one and having to decide on buying an eticket or not.
Everyone talks about her good dancing, but can we talk about her vocals progress ??? And the way she can sing AND dancing (holding a note while moving dynamically and not loosing too much breath until the end of the song)
Bae just moves like this all just perfectly natural for her and she's having the time of her life! I know she has worked her tail off to reach this level tho. She is amazing.
Take a dive from the sky into the deepest hell If you survive down below where the darkness dwells So deep that you can't even hear the bells All along was our nest, couldn't even tell 蹴る大気 駆け抜ける lightning 吼える影 旋風 frightening 井の中でイキるニンゲンに Actions all have consequences Oh, you humans, so naive and desperate (uh-uh) Enough to think that luck and fate have favorites (uh-uh) 禁忌を感じたいのなら触れ (uh-uh) 抗ってその運命 Oh, oh, oh, oh If you reach for it, I'll burn ya With a dragon's heart of fire 跪け従いな Ay-ay-ay-ya Flying straight into desire Ever, oh, so higher 空 全て支配下 Ay-ay-ay-ya それでも抗う？ 掛かってこい 蹂躙 or conquer me 逆鱗 (Ay-ay-ay-ya) Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN 龍神に make it ring Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN If you wanna be the king Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN 龍神に make it ring Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN If you wanna be the king もう待てないか？ My awakening So strange that you can't stop shivering, haha 陶酔したいんだろ聖火に Aww, you're climbing up my body 竜の巣の番人 Hey 盗んでみな wake me up Baby 脚の置き場 気つけな キスして誓いは 永遠のラヴァー 消えないその mark, a cursed power 禁忌を感じたいのなら触れ (uh-uh) 抗って その運命 Oh, oh, oh, oh 地獄の業火 喰らいな 干上がらせてやるこの大河 Chaos on pangaea (Ay-ay-ay-ya) 天にまで昇りたいか 祝福 or get your 対価 Take off from the tip of the spire (Ay-ay-ay-ya) If you really wanna win and take everything Look within, and begin 逆鱗 You'll feel a burning wrath that makes the heart freeze You'll face creatures from a deep far-off sea Your faith will grow like longan fruit from the seed 纏うこの神威 Oh, oh, oh, oh 聞こうその願い Oh, oh, oh, oh If you reach for it, I'll burn ya With a dragon's heart of fire 跪け従いな (Ay-ay-ay-ya) Flying straight into desire Ever, oh, so higher 空 全て支配下 (Ay-ay-ay-ya) それでも抗う？ 掛かってこい 蹂躙 or conquer me 逆鱗 (Ay-ay-ay-ya) Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN 龍神に make it ring Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN If you wanna be the king Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN 龍神に make it ring Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN If you got it, you'll be king
One thing I loved about the show this year is how much the camerawork has improved. Instead of going nuts with zooms and pans and constant crowd shots, it's a lot more subdued and focused and nowhere near as aggressive. That gives the choreography (like Bae's insane dancing) a chance to showcase itself, instead of trying to "hype it up" like they did in the first concert. I was a lot less motion sick by the end of it too, haha
Bae is my Oishi so it pains me to admit that her singing is mid amoung the hololive girls, however... Her dancing is easily top tier. Those moves are indeed fire.
I don't mean it as an insult. I only mean in comparison to some other hololive members whose primary talent is singing. She, of course, has some banger songs... however Bae's dancing is her primary talent and that's where she really stands out.
@@Psycho-go5yr I agree to be honest, she’s mostly known for her dancing. Who do you think the best singer is btw? After listening to ERB i would personally put her in the top 5.
@Elenea__21 I'm not sure... that's a tough one. I'm also a shrimpie, so Gura is my favorite singer, but if I'm being completely honest with myself, she's probably not the best in Hololive. Hololive has a bunch of really talented singers, so it's hard to just choose one... in that sense, Bae's dancing talent sticks out even more so. I think there are fewer truly top teir dancers than there are singers. The only dancers I can think of off the top of my head that are probably on the same level as her are Laplus and Hajime... but I could be missing some. There's so many talents now that it's hard to keep up with them all.
A moment I look forward to in any 3D concert Bae is in, is when she gets to do a solo performance. I know she will absolutely KILL it and since it is just her, she can go all out on the moves without needing to alter it for other Holomems who aren't at her level of ability. (This is not a knock on the other Holomems. Some of them are fantastic, but when you see Bae's solo choreography, it's clearly on another level) And as the tech evolves and gets better, she's able to do more and more. I can't imagine what will happen if the tech gets to the level where she has no restrictions.
The first time I heard this song, I was already thinking of how crazy the choreo for it would be. And Bae of course delivered. THAT'S MY RAT IDOL, SHE CAN DANCE AND SHE'S AMAZING WOOOOO
I'll never stop saying it. Bae is honestly one of the strongest talents in hololive. Singing? Check. Bilingual? Check Dance? Check She can basically participate in any Holo event due to this diversity and she has a rather great personality to boot. Yagoo be pickin some crazy talent honestly lol. Even Justice is full of win.
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Gekirin, it's one of her original songs
There’s a reason they keep making her an opening act. She knows how to hype up a crowd like no other.
I swear her and Ollie are the best hypers in Hololive.
@@lyravain6304 Mococo making a run for that crown. Did you see her during Rebellion? Hype!
What's also incredible is that is HER legacy. The paid portions aren't freely available, so it's a given that what little we can get (and thank you @BeelzFlyLord for making sure this gets out there), gets clipped and shared around. And if THIS quality is what is put out there for free, it will drive more people to buy the tickets as well. But we all know, Bae is King
@@corvora0 yeah, you can tell they carefully selected who would be in the free portion to try and maximize hype. Giving full gen performances for the oldest and newest gen, having MCs by advent, giving strong solo performers like Bae and Irys show their stuff, etc.
It also helps that her character design looks good in-motion! It's such a happy accident how the character was given to a really good dancer~
aussie's breakdance culture redeemed
You know, you joke, but Bae's performance at 5th Fes more or less WAS a breakdance, completely self-choreographed, and it was amazing! Bae could absolutely teach Raygun a thing or two. ;)
@@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133 I haven't been following the situation that closely, and have more or less given Raygun the benefit of the doubt that she was just trying to be avant-garde -- I mean, she couldn't have possibly made it to the Olympics if she didn't have SOME talent for breakdancing, right? She just made a very poor decision to try something... erm... "different" at the Olympic Games themselves! (Or maybe it was a good decision? I mean, if she'd just danced well, we probably wouldn't be talking about her; now, she's a legend that's renowned worldwide! Maybe for the wrong reasons, but hey, renown is renown, right?)
Either way, I think we can all agree that Bae's moves completely smoked her! Bae is, I think, far more talented across the board than people realize... though they're coming to realize it as she blows away everyone's expectations more and more with every live appearance!
Now I want a side by side comparison of the Olympian and Bae captioned:
An Australian rat idol vtuber VS Australia's Olympic Breakdancer
I just want to see that disgrace get even more dogpiled on lmao
Australians dance committee really thought a dance PhD was their trump card 😂😂
Little did they know that the PhD wrote thesis about dance, but she never actually learnt to dance 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133 Wow, OK, so I can tell you are passionately opposed to her, and that's perfectly fine -- as I said, I haven't been following the situation closely, so I don't know if she's done anything criminal or underhanded or what. But please cool it with the personal attacks, OK? Giving someone the benefit of the doubt means being trustful, and assuming the best -- which is something I always try to do of others. Calling my morality into question because I refuse to hate someone -- particularly someone I know little about -- is completely out of line, and I should hope you don't exercise that sort of behavior with others as well. Life's too short to hate.
Ok, seeing a vtuber popping and locking is fucking wild. Those movements are subtle as hell but the motion tracking is finally good enough to capture some of it.
I can't imagine how much Bae is exerting herself just so that those moves are noticable in motion tracking.
@@bananabunch4590 It will be awkward but you actually need to slow down the pop so that tracking can capture it. The reason subtle movement is missed by the tracker is because of the low frame rate.
@@kazedcat low frame rate? the cameras capture at 150FPS, 26.2MP. Yes, some subtlety will probably be lost to filtering (to compensate for any noise in the pose estimation) but the source frame rate is high.
@@charltonrodda The camera is not the tracker. There is processing of the camera feed with software.
Yeah, her background is different from most of the others. She comes from hip hop dance rather than idol dancing.
I swear, every single Bae's performance goes better and better. She knows how to take the crowd from 0 to 100
Bae is the breakdancer Australia DESPERATELY needed at the Olympics.
Bro so true.
Plot twist: Bae was ordered to nerf her routine to not break NDA, and had to perform as Raygun, and the weird routine was her protest.
@@blackjacktrial fun fact is bae really must be nerfed her dance because the 3D cant catch her speed
She was busy with more important things, obviously 😂
I love Bae but kpop style dancing wouldn’t fly in a breaking contest. You need the unique footwork and power moves to compete. It’s a totally different skillset
Suisei called her the best dancer in all of hololive
Deserved. Wawa is my oshi but i must concede this. My order (which probably omits people) would be
Bae
Laplus / Wawa
Aki
I wanna see her, korone, and aki do a performance
@@franks777_KFP Most idols dance conservatively. If kiara and others actually for once just express their dance more, They could do what Bae does. Bae isnt doing anything complex for someone who can dance.
@@RhazOfRheos Yeah, most idols dance to give some added interest to the song. Bae looks like she's dancing to DANCE. She looks like she's really committing to the dance rather than just going through the motions in a rote fashion like a lot of the other do. No shade to the other Holo girls, but most of them don't really look like they consider the dance to be an equal part of the performance to me.
@@xjuggernaughtxx it kind of depends on the song they sing and who it is. Suisei dances relatively conservatively when shes solo, but when she's apart of a group, she can definitely show some worth while moves.
not to mention some songs seems kind of hard to think of a "dance" for because they're either somber songs where dancing might feel weird (not to say they just stand around), or they might be too fast paced for the girls to both sing and dance to without sounding like they're exerting themselves.
You can really see how technology still holds back her full potential. She's limited by the technology of her time.
@@azahel542 her choreo had to be redone because said technology couldn't keep up with it lol
Idk which performance was it but Bae said that once
@@ziezitci 99% sure that was Kamippoi na, at 4th fes.
@@Felixr2 Oh yeah, I think it was that
She's going to discover a new element once she breaks through.
Bruce lee ahh moment
Swear to god, one of these day I'm going to figure out what makes this so compelling to me, specifically her moves at 0:54 and 1:05.
The only thing that makes this even better is knowing that Bae does all of her own choreography. Absolutely lit.
Not for this one she told us. But yeah your point stands, she's amazing and she said she wanted to get back into doing her own again.
For a Vtuber, shes probably one of the best dancer. But for a dancer shes average. Nothing wrong in having other pros made a choreography for you.
@@RhazOfRheos I think it's important to remember that mocap is going to heavily limit what she can do, due to certain movements not doing well with tracking
Imagine being this gullible.
@@RhazOfRheos Bae's def one of the better dancers I've seen in general think she was a sort of dancer before she did vtubing but I don't really know for sure. But out of every vtuber I've seen she definitely pushes the motion capture to its limits
Someone help me please i think i've watched this BANGER at least a thousand times and i don't feel like stopping anytime soon
To this day I can't believe that Bae hasn't performed Play Dice in any of the live concerts she has participated in.
At least we have the one she did for her 3D showcase 😭🙏❤️
@@CSLucasEpic She mentioned that Play Dice is very special to her so she only wants to perform it under very specific circumstances
@@scarr009 Didn’t she also say that if she was going to, she doesn’t want to perform it in her Idol outfit since she thinks Play Dice isn’t very “idol”-y?
@@scarr009 I think we know what that special circumstance would be. She'll get it soon, I'm sure of it!
I wonder if Nerissa has the same plan, opting not to do "Say My Name"
@@SKarlet312 Kinda disappointed she didn't go for Say My Name tbh. That song has a great call and response angle to it that would be killer during a live performance.
THATS MY RAT
@@qmelia you mean "Our" rat?
@@Moistda THATS OUR RAT
Soyuz-
Bae absolutely shines when she dances, holy crap
What gets me is the absolute precision of her moves. Hard to say what I mean, but you can see that every movement she makes is controlled and exactly what she is wanting to do at that point in the routine. That's what allows her to do the things she does, because she knows where she is in the moment, where she wants to be next, and exactly what she needs to do to hit that point.
And then she goes and makes it look effortless. XD
2:38 damn, the body control
I could watch the section between 2:27 and 2:51 forever
If Australia gets their turn to feature Olympics, let Baelz intro the dance ahahaha
2:27 I love her popping and locking here. I can’t stop replaying it. Especially with beats!? I know that’s the point but it’s mesmerising.
UA-cam keeps recommending this to me and I feel obligated to watch it every time. It's just ridiculously good. Holy hell Bae.
Being there live that day, the energy was insane. One of my favorite performances for sure of all of BD.
i can’t stop revisiting this help.. wish i was there so bad
Her heavy workout is paying off. Those are some some quick moves.
Bae's dance performance is just simply amazing. She didn't get enough credit for that
BRUH SHE BUSTIN'
Bae = Queen of Dancing!!!
i need to see bae and hajime dance together
Bae ready for Eurovision Song Contest 🇦🇺❤
I'm not a Bae fan in general, but her dancing is always mind-blowing.
Vshojo got their Mouse Diva
HoloLive got their Mouse Dancer
Dancing while singing is harder than you thought, seriously what she did was very impressive even by professional standard
they dont dance and sing at the same time. in fact they neither dance, nor sing live at all. they record the performances and play those recordings at the concerts.
the stuff in between songs, adressing and interacting with the audience is live though.
@@hunzukunz I’ve seen this said before but do we actually have confirmation? Some of it sounded like it was live. Like FuwaMoco’s performance on day 1 doing their original song. They had the backing track for backing vocals like they do at regular concerts for most artists and the audio didn’t sound recorded at all. Recordings have that distinct filter when compared to live audio. Listen to any song on a record then go look up that same song live. Of if you go to a concert listen to any song from that artist and then compare it to live audio at the show. Recorded audio is much clearer/cleaner. And in regards to the dancing I’ve seen some of the birthday performances as well as some of the past concerts starting with 3rd fest and during the segments in between songs when they would have the talents address the crowd right after they had been on “stage” they sounded very winded.
@@alexbelcher2206 the recordings for concerts are not the same as highest quality studio recordings. they are done specifically for the concerts.
they are not as heavily edited, to retain some of that 'live' feel. obviously i dont know exact details, but they do some pitch corrections, timing edits etc., but they dont use a lot of effects.
its still very obviously not live, because you can hear the impact that f.e. pitch correction has on the voices.
specifically for the FWMC performance:
the sound is very even, despite the dancing. so either they dont dance, or they dont sing. they dont sing, because it would sound very different, if it was live. even the best live-tuning tech would have them sound really unnatural. way more than the post editing you can do for prerecorded sound. (see Justin Bieber, BTS etc.)
without live-tuning, they would sound more similar to how they sing during their karaoke streams.
they also dont dance, because they are not out of breath at all immediately after the performance, when they talk to the audience. that would be impossible.
so the whole performance is not live.
just to make sure: thats perfectly fine and normal in the industry. most of the girls are also neither professional singers, or proffesional dancers. to get the most out of them and make it a great night for the fans, prerecording, with live segments in between songs, is definitely the correct decision.
i dont think they ever officially claim, that those concerts are performed in real time. they just dont straight up say its prerecorded.
dont forget, that they are, at least to some extent, play characters. and those characters are there, on the stage, singing and dancing for the fans. even if the real people are not actually on stage and performing live.
maybe as a comparison: the Mori Calliope Solo Concert performance with Suisei, from ~2 years ago, was most definitely live. you can totally hear the difference, both in audio quality and in singing accuracy.
as for proof, or confirmation: i dont know if there is 100% proof, but its as close to fact as you can get, without them straight up confirming it.
@@hunzukunz But without confirmation can you really say it isn’t live? I’m no tech expert when it comes to music but you say even professional audio techs would make them sound unnatural? If they’re professional they know what they’re doing so that makes absolutely no sense. And to bring up the FuwaMoco performance wouldn’t the techs want them to sound even? As for the performances themselves, the fact that the possibility to livestream them exists adds another point to say it’s live. Regular artists have done it so why wouldn’t Cover/Hololive? And to bring up another point, the adlibs during songs. All the girls do it and it’s more than just addressing the location of the performance. Yes they all have some call out to the crowd at the start of or during a song, but there’s also several times they throw something else in randomly.
@@alexbelcher2206 when it comes to tech, there are limitations to what can be done. even the best audio techs cant perform magic. live audio, atleast today, is still very much recognizable. no amount of equipment and expertise will make a prerecorded song not sound prerecorded.
even if the techs would want them to sound even, that doesnt mean they can. there is physics involved, that you cant entirely counter act. you will hear uneven sound when people move around, especially when they dance. maybe some day in the future it ill be possible to do AI-assisted live-editing, that is unrecognizable, but thats not the case right now.
regular artists have not done it. they either sing live and sound like they sing live, or they lip-sync, sing over backing tracks, or use live-tuning. all of those are pretty easy to tell apart. many of the concerts done by top pop-stars are not performed fully live, so that not a good argument.
another very obvious point is simply looking at the singing skills of the talents. most of them arent all that good at singing., they simply would not be able to pull of a performance like that live, no matter how much they practise.
maye 2-3 would get pretty close.
if you try to go against all the evidence and claim those are live performances, you are basically at the level of someone claiming the earth is flat. technically could be true, but its a riddiculous stance to take.
Bae's dancing is so clean with such visible passion in every movement. Holo has some pretty good dancers now, but no one moves like Bae.
Then she adds that growl into her vocals. Man that Rats great.
The stage is burning hot with Bae's dancing
Bae got super into it towards the end. Also, the CHOREOGRAPHY. I want to imagine that it took her many tries to do it all in one go and along with the music.
I got the sense that she started off firing up the crowd, then started feeding off of their energy.
@@Pseudowolf you think this is live performed?
@@saintlarfleeze3551 dunno but it can be since there was some fails at some events like laplus falling
@@saintlarfleeze3551 i think the choregraphy is live but the singing part isnt, not entirely sure tho
our pharmacist can dance
Bae dancing without vtuber filter must look amazing. Lets wait for tech to catch up.
This Aussie is so proud of that Aussie.
I’ll say it now. Astel and Bae dancing’ll be the most popped off thing cover would do.
Astel and Bae would be great but personally, I'd commit crimes to see La+ and Bae dancing to something like this.
I was in there in person and lemme tell you it was even wilder in person
@@ZerpTheGreat How did you not die from her killer moves?!
@@Thai8521 I was on the verge of death
@@ZerpTheGreat Worse I would assume is you going into a coma lol
@@ZerpTheGreat how so? Sounds awesome!
@@mitchellhouser1572 compared to day 1 people were sitting on day 1 but on day 2 everyone was standing up and going crazy and the crowd felt more alive than day 1
Bae’s moves match the music so well. Her moves at 2:26 are so mesmerizing
Her energy is unmatched
Aussie Olympic Team taking notes rn
Remember guys, this is an idol.
She knows how to attract the eye, you can't look away. The moment you do you realize 2 minutes have passed
My mind was like: *"damn bae, might be the closest that we have to being idols"*
Good camera work! Looks like they finally learned how to showcase choreography.
@@papacharlie-niner148 it was already great during her BD 3D Live
@@baka_ja_nai In comparison to last years EN concert though...
That's something I was saying during the concert, too! The camerawork was SO much better than the last concert. They actually focused on the performers instead of cutting away to people in the crowd every 30 seconds. And last concert, doing that during Bae's performance is practically criminal.
@@Pseudowolf iirc they actually went back and replaced the original VOD of that concert on SPWN with a version with better camera-work within a couple days or so
it really reminds me of Male kpop band music like stray kids
Ive been saying for a while, Bae is severely unappreciated honestly. Shes an amazing performer all around. Her singing and dancing are actually incredible
Bae is an amazing performer. I remember watching her birthday performance live and it made me gain a lot more respect for vtubers in a way.
Bae was born to be on stage she’s so powerful!!!!! ❤❤
Bae is honestly the more natural performer in all of Hololive. She was born to do this.
She did bring HEAT
High Explosive Antimatter Thighs
That's my oshi. Truly a little ball of talent
Someone call in the repair team because *BAE IS TEARING UP THE STAGE!!!!!!*
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ah yes, the Dragon Rat of Australia.
Always said that her dancing skills are sl underrated
Bae always knocks it out of the park, but this was her best performance yet. i can't stop watching it. even the camera barely changed angles this time, it's mostly a continuous shot from right down front. everything else fades away, there is nothing but her and the stage.
this rrat a killer
I remember her being so tired when waking up to stream that she'd just burst into tears. Guess this is what she was training so hard for. You don't get those moves from a cereal box.
God I fucking love Bae. She goes so hard with everything she does.
The tracking is suprisingly good.
0:04
listen to that roar
0:57 Hmmm?
*listens carefully?
AIYAIYAIYAI?
Close enough, AWAKEN MY MASTERS!
Jojo referenced
@@DeludedOne so that's the reason why i suddenly wanted to do a bizarre pose
There's a reason she's considered the best performer in EN
2:52 that kick tho. Once again, bae comes up with another banger
Probably shouldn't say this, but it's a shame we'll never see her do that choreography irl.
I wouldn't even be surprised if she just bust out a powermove...
Everyone there live was reaching unreal levels of hype during Bae's preformance, I can't imagine what it was like watching the free one and having to decide on buying an eticket or not.
I can’t believe she dropped Zodiac as a surprise. W bae
Raygun in shambles rn
Damn just imagine how much more powerful Bae's dancing would be if the limitations of tracking devices were removed.
Everyone talks about her good dancing, but can we talk about her vocals progress ??? And the way she can sing AND dancing (holding a note while moving dynamically and not loosing too much breath until the end of the song)
I'm gonna tell my kids this is hamsterdance
Bae just moves like this all just perfectly natural for her and she's having the time of her life! I know she has worked her tail off to reach this level tho. She is amazing.
Bae must be fit (both as in hot and as in fitness.) she absolutely killed it.
Take a dive from the sky into the deepest hell
If you survive down below where the darkness dwells
So deep that you can't even hear the bells
All along was our nest, couldn't even tell
蹴る大気 駆け抜ける lightning
吼える影 旋風 frightening
井の中でイキるニンゲンに
Actions all have consequences
Oh, you humans, so naive and desperate (uh-uh)
Enough to think that luck and fate have favorites (uh-uh)
禁忌を感じたいのなら触れ (uh-uh)
抗ってその運命
Oh, oh, oh, oh
If you reach for it, I'll burn ya
With a dragon's heart of fire
跪け従いな
Ay-ay-ay-ya
Flying straight into desire
Ever, oh, so higher
空 全て支配下
Ay-ay-ay-ya
それでも抗う？ 掛かってこい
蹂躙 or conquer me
逆鱗
(Ay-ay-ay-ya)
Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN
龍神に make it ring
Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN
If you wanna be the king
Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN
龍神に make it ring
Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN
If you wanna be the king
もう待てないか？ My awakening
So strange that you can't stop shivering, haha
陶酔したいんだろ聖火に
Aww, you're climbing up my body 竜の巣の番人
Hey 盗んでみな wake me up
Baby 脚の置き場 気つけな
キスして誓いは 永遠のラヴァー
消えないその mark, a cursed power
禁忌を感じたいのなら触れ (uh-uh)
抗って その運命
Oh, oh, oh, oh
地獄の業火 喰らいな
干上がらせてやるこの大河
Chaos on pangaea
(Ay-ay-ay-ya)
天にまで昇りたいか
祝福 or get your 対価
Take off from the tip of the spire
(Ay-ay-ay-ya)
If you really wanna win and take everything
Look within, and begin
逆鱗
You'll feel a burning wrath that makes the heart freeze
You'll face creatures from a deep far-off sea
Your faith will grow like longan fruit from the seed
纏うこの神威
Oh, oh, oh, oh
聞こうその願い
Oh, oh, oh, oh
If you reach for it, I'll burn ya
With a dragon's heart of fire
跪け従いな
(Ay-ay-ay-ya)
Flying straight into desire
Ever, oh, so higher
空 全て支配下
(Ay-ay-ay-ya)
それでも抗う？ 掛かってこい
蹂躙 or conquer me
逆鱗
(Ay-ay-ay-ya)
Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN
龍神に make it ring
Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN
If you wanna be the king
Ring it, ring it, GEKIRIN
龍神に make it ring
Bring it, bring it, GEKIRIN
If you got it, you'll be king
Omg this is an amazing performance from Bae! I'm not one for concerts or this style of music even but glad for everyone their getting to enjoy it
I know I saw this live, but I’m so mesmerized by the live rendition than the actual recorded version just doesn’t go as hard
One thing I loved about the show this year is how much the camerawork has improved. Instead of going nuts with zooms and pans and constant crowd shots, it's a lot more subdued and focused and nowhere near as aggressive. That gives the choreography (like Bae's insane dancing) a chance to showcase itself, instead of trying to "hype it up" like they did in the first concert.
I was a lot less motion sick by the end of it too, haha
For real I’ve seen previous concert clips and you can’t really appreciate all that they’re doing
she's absolutely cracked
What a moves!
Her voice, her energy, her dance moves, her accent. This rat is a whole pack of goodies
Bae is so good with every dance she does, even in some of the group stuff you could tell she had just a lil more going on in each movement.
ライブのハコスさんマジでかっこいいわ
大好き
Bae is my Oishi so it pains me to admit that her singing is mid amoung the hololive girls, however... Her dancing is easily top tier. Those moves are indeed fire.
@@Psycho-go5yr I wouldn’t call her singing mid, if you’re a fan i’m sure you heard “Psycho”.. Just by listening to that you can tell she’s not mid.
I don't mean it as an insult. I only mean in comparison to some other hololive members whose primary talent is singing. She, of course, has some banger songs... however Bae's dancing is her primary talent and that's where she really stands out.
@@Psycho-go5yr I agree to be honest, she’s mostly known for her dancing. Who do you think the best singer is btw? After listening to ERB i would personally put her in the top 5.
@Elenea__21 I'm not sure... that's a tough one. I'm also a shrimpie, so Gura is my favorite singer, but if I'm being completely honest with myself, she's probably not the best in Hololive. Hololive has a bunch of really talented singers, so it's hard to just choose one... in that sense, Bae's dancing talent sticks out even more so. I think there are fewer truly top teir dancers than there are singers. The only dancers I can think of off the top of my head that are probably on the same level as her are Laplus and Hajime... but I could be missing some. There's so many talents now that it's hard to keep up with them all.
A moment I look forward to in any 3D concert Bae is in, is when she gets to do a solo performance. I know she will absolutely KILL it and since it is just her, she can go all out on the moves without needing to alter it for other Holomems who aren't at her level of ability.
(This is not a knock on the other Holomems. Some of them are fantastic, but when you see Bae's solo choreography, it's clearly on another level)
And as the tech evolves and gets better, she's able to do more and more. I can't imagine what will happen if the tech gets to the level where she has no restrictions.
powerful Hako-taro, yay~
Imagine VTubers got invited to the Olympics or something
2:29 This moment is so epic, that rat got the moves!
Australia should have sent Bae to Olympics instead for the Breakdancing competition, missed opportunity
Bae makes me proud to be aussie
I think we need Bae and Raegun have a dance off
The first time I heard this song, I was already thinking of how crazy the choreo for it would be.
And Bae of course delivered. THAT'S MY RAT IDOL, SHE CAN DANCE AND SHE'S AMAZING WOOOOO
I'll never stop saying it. Bae is honestly one of the strongest talents in hololive.
Singing? Check.
Bilingual? Check
Dance? Check
She can basically participate in any Holo event due to this diversity and she has a rather great personality to boot.
Yagoo be pickin some crazy talent honestly lol. Even Justice is full of win.
She hits so hard
Wait what? This is Bae?!
2:28 This sequence is my favorite.
Hajime dance back watching
The choreo here is very impressive and dynamic. I know the performances are prerecorded but it’s still very impressive to be able to dance like this
The performances are live. She talked on stream about rehearsals going wrong
Australian rat brings heat to New York City, manages to befriends alley rats along the way
local rat physically unable to stop winning
brooooo...
Is the reason she doesn't have backup dancers that they couldn't keep up?
Tracking can't even catch up