6 First Page Mistakes Every New Fantasy Writer Makes

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  • @Jed_Herne
    @Jed_Herne  4 місяці тому +46

    In this video, I mentioned a First Chapter Critique Workshop - I ran this on June 30th, 2024, with 46 amazing fantasy writers. You can get the full recording inside my First Chapter Mastery course (which also includes several more hours of in-depth lessons on writing a compelling first chapter). This course also includes the option to get my personal feedback on your writing. Check it out here: firstchaptermastery.com/

    • @jadeayla7548
      @jadeayla7548 4 місяці тому

      Could you please make a video explaining, in detail, the differences between first person, third person and limited third person narrative?

  • @WakenAngels
    @WakenAngels 5 місяців тому +1615

    My first page mistake:
    Staring at it and waiting for it to write itself.

    • @drorritter4977
      @drorritter4977 5 місяців тому +43

      Too real

    • @JerrBaybEe
      @JerrBaybEe 5 місяців тому +27

      😂 facts

    • @water7962
      @water7962 5 місяців тому +30

      All you have to do is put a fake coffee stain on the first page and you wouldn't have to even bother with writing one in the first place. Let the readers figure out what happened themselves for.. uhh... mystery

    • @alithefrog
      @alithefrog 5 місяців тому +10

      Write from another part of the story I had almost the same problem one day when I was watching the news I got an idea about one of the later chapters and I wrote that chapter and after that I easily wrote the opening

    • @SickegalAlien
      @SickegalAlien 5 місяців тому +10

      I'm not telling you to let chatGPT write your story
      But it can be a good inspiration to get past writers block
      In the best case, it gives you great idea.
      In the worst case, you'll know what you 100% don't want, and that's a start already

  • @WakenAngels
    @WakenAngels 5 місяців тому +1480

    I once wrote a short story where the first line was "the king is dead" because I wanted to hook the audience immediately. But they don't know who this king is and I've just spoiled his fate, so why do they care what happens next? After rewrites, i opened the page with a line of dialogue “No traces of poison were found, high magistrate” and focused on the other council members discussing succession with a young distraught prince; this pushed the king line further and further down until it was removed entirely. I used subtext and context clues instead to make the reader wonder who was poisoned and who was investigating. Their interactions tell us who the king is to them and why the reader should care. So I absolutely agree that pushing the revelation further back makes the first page more exciting.

    • @alexiosblake9804
      @alexiosblake9804 5 місяців тому +129

      Starting with such a line can work I think, but rather than focusing on a character that the reader wouldn't know at all it would be better to focus on the consequences of his death. Like political implications on to how the other countries might react to that, or about how they have to find a successor.

    • @higurashikai09
      @higurashikai09 5 місяців тому +131

      "The king is dead" would work for a story about some sort of revolution where the identity of the king is not entirely important

    • @lostinafieldofflowers
      @lostinafieldofflowers 5 місяців тому +37

      But you did have revelation. You showed us he was poisoned and made us curious. You just did it without revealing the whole thing.

    • @vol94
      @vol94 5 місяців тому +62

      The dialogue is better than the original line, but I still don't buy writing advice channels dubbing things as "mistakes" and creating rules. Sanderson opened the way of kings prologue with, "Szeth Son Son Vallano wore white on the day he was to kill the king." No one knows who szeth or the king is, and the white clothing isn't an interesting detail. The prologue nonetheless goes on to be the most banger prologue ever

    • @WakenAngels
      @WakenAngels 5 місяців тому +3

      @@alexiosblake9804 Yes that particular short story opened with a scene about his succession being discussed.

  • @SickegalAlien
    @SickegalAlien 5 місяців тому +468

    Jed is one of the few who uses bestsellers as "do not" examples, while also presenting "do that" examples from the same book.
    And it's so encouraging because we get to feel that authorship is a mixed bag even for the great names

    • @jordanchobson
      @jordanchobson 4 місяці тому +18

      Yes-- I tend to see published authors, particularly those in genres like fantasy, as having some kind of secret that I've been left out of when it comes to writing- when the reality is it's a struggle for everyone and it's never perfect.

    • @chickenmadness1732
      @chickenmadness1732 3 місяці тому +1

      He makes his money from clickbait youtube videos, not writing lol.

    • @SickegalAlien
      @SickegalAlien 3 місяці тому +4

      @@chickenmadness1732 clickbait or not, his advice and examples are solid

    • @FJ-rh6io
      @FJ-rh6io 3 місяці тому +3

      @@chickenmadness1732 it's not clickbait if he delivers

    • @lovelylynx5473
      @lovelylynx5473 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@chickenmadness1732 alas, someone's career is not one specific thing, but rather teaching people about that specific thing? what a fucking tragedy!

  • @SomeGuy-qd2sb
    @SomeGuy-qd2sb 5 місяців тому +507

    He stared at the blank page in front of him, hoping a well worn hope this would be the day he created a new world. The feeling would soon pass, as it always did, and he opened UA-cam to watch yet another Jed Herne video.

    • @JhadeSagrav
      @JhadeSagrav 5 місяців тому +28

      Great first line 😅
      Yet even as Jed's calm wisdom soothed his grey matter, a niggling anxiety struggled to fight its way through into the forefront of his focus. A story idea was emerging, as a new star explodes forth with light and violence and beauty. He paused the video and threw half the contents of his desk upon the floor as he scrambled for pen and paper.
      The story was here, and it would not be contained.

    • @Aeras89
      @Aeras89 5 місяців тому +12

      Why you gotta call me out like that? 🤣

    • @averyhorrocks5195
      @averyhorrocks5195 4 місяці тому +14

      You have no idea who I am and I have no idea who you are; However, I felt the need to tell you this:
      YOU CAN DO IT! DON'T GIVE UP! KEEP TRYING UNTIL IT STICKS!!

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 4 місяці тому +2

      I feel so seen 😂💀💀

    • @GleamDrawz
      @GleamDrawz 4 місяці тому

      @@JhadeSagrav Ngl that last line reads like a pregnancy 😭 I love it

  • @nathanbrownlee9276
    @nathanbrownlee9276 5 місяців тому +296

    One of my favorite opening lines in a book is probably from Well of Ascension: “I write these words in steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be trusted.”
    Is it a good opening? A bad opening? Does it even count as an opening? Not sure but it sounds pretty cool.

    • @theatheistpaladin
      @theatheistpaladin 5 місяців тому +11

      Mistborn.

    • @narnia1233
      @narnia1233 5 місяців тому +15

      It’s just okay to me.
      I mean right off the batt I disagree with the character saying that line-there’s lots of things that have been engraved in metal that were both lies and just plain evil (for example: Work Shall Set You Free was engraved on metal gates for people entering concentration camps)-but besides that all it tells me is that the character wants to preserve something.
      And that the character is possibly immature and naive. (Because metal can be torn down and destroyed, etc. Anything material doesn’t last forever. So it’s actually not the material it’s made out of but the idea itself that matters most. What really lasts is immaterial.)
      If that’s the case-showing a character wanting to preserve something but is immature and naive-then it’s a good opening.

    • @nathanbrownlee9276
      @nathanbrownlee9276 5 місяців тому +26

      @@narnia1233 I think it sets the stage for the book itself to be a lie and untrustworthy with the only words we can trust are the ones written in the little excerpts (implied to be written in steel) before each chapter actually starts.
      Maybe it’s not a perfect opening but it is decent foreshadowing.

    • @narnia1233
      @narnia1233 5 місяців тому +4

      @@nathanbrownlee9276 I haven’t read the book at all. Could you clarify more? Are you saying that the words in metal are definitely trustworthy? Is that what the intention was? For the reader to see the words in metal as truth?
      Because if that was the intention-honestly that opening line did not reveal that. And I would say it was unsuccessful if that was the intention.

    • @nathanbrownlee9276
      @nathanbrownlee9276 5 місяців тому +11

      @@narnia1233 Well of Ascension is part of Brandon Sanderson’s Mistborn trilogy. And in all of the books before each chapter, there is a short quote, a paragraph, or excerpt.
      In the first book, the excerpts are from a logbook that the characters find later in the story. In the second book, Well of Ascension, the excerpts are written on a large steel wall someone finds earlier in the story.
      Mistborn also has a magic system based around metal so metal itself is really important in that world regardless.
      I’d say more but that would be a pretty big spoiler, there’s this huge twist surrounding the opening line and I feel like someone in the comments won’t be too happy if I say anymore, but that in the story that you should trust the words that were written in metal.

  • @ClocksTickin
    @ClocksTickin 4 місяці тому +222

    There's 2 kinds of audiences in this world; those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

    • @jefftitterington7600
      @jefftitterington7600 4 місяці тому +21

      10 - those who understand binary and the rest.

    • @777arksMa77_RGM
      @777arksMa77_RGM 3 місяці тому +5

      Nice

    • @thebricknomads
      @thebricknomads 3 місяці тому +3

      Lol

    • @jamesloder8652
      @jamesloder8652 3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the irrelevant and unoriginal comment

    • @thebricknomads
      @thebricknomads 3 місяці тому +13

      @@jamesloder8652 ah yes someone who is irrationally annoyed at a random youtube comment

  • @slowlearner46
    @slowlearner46 4 місяці тому +81

    I have been attempting to write for the past 2 months and it is exceptionally more difficult than I ever imagined. I changed projects 5 times, never able to find the story I wanted to commit to. Then, I sent my first chapter to a public critique site where I found I had many bad habits that needed to be broken. Too descriptive, slow pacing, broken sentencing. I just re-wrote 1.5k words in my first chapter today and I don't even know if it'll see the light of day.
    Thankfully the writing community is incredibly supportive and these videos are a massive help.

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 4 місяці тому +2

      That's awesome!! The more you write, the more you learn how to write and discover your own voice. Keep going and keep getting feedback, and you'll improve! 😊 And keep your first drafts; it's really neat to look back on what you started with and see how much you've refined and polished it.
      As an example, my first novel started with literally nothing happening while I described the interior of a run-of-the-mill café for at least a paragraph 😂💀 It now starts with the main character expressing his frustration at being trapped in limbo away from everyone he loves, with one of my favorite opening lines I've written: "If I could die of dehydration or starve, I'd have done it decades ago, just to escape the anesthetic monotony of this place."
      I hope ur writing journey is fun and fulfilling!!

    • @jaygaymes
      @jaygaymes 4 місяці тому +1

      One thing I like to do, when I'm unsure how I want my story to progress, is to just write a scene. It doesn't have to fit in your currently completed story, just be in the world. If you're happy with it, you can figure out how to write TO that scene, and if you're not, there's a decent chance a better idea will have come to you as you write it out. (In my experience, obviously, results may vary.)

    • @giygas9305
      @giygas9305 4 місяці тому +3

      What if you build a story for 5 years? I’ve been doing that and I haven’t written a single page. Lol.

    • @clementine2444
      @clementine2444 3 місяці тому +2

      What public critique did you send it to? I need to do that 😭😂

    • @windermelon9567
      @windermelon9567 Місяць тому +2

      @@giygas9305 Then you haven't been building a story, you've been daydreaming. I say this as someone who also barely has a paragraph to my name, lol

  • @sieversen1235
    @sieversen1235 5 місяців тому +105

    I think the most memorable first sentence I have read was something along the lines of "It was monday morning 10 AM when Jonathan realized he was dead". I can't remember where I read it or what the story was about, but that sentence always stuck with me, because it really makes you ask questions and keep reading.

    • @Strider1122
      @Strider1122 4 місяці тому +7

      Johnny and the Dead" by Terry Pratchett I think 👍🏼

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 4 місяці тому +10

      I think that is kind of the point. You don’t need to hook your readers in the very first sentence, as long as you do it in the first 2 pages or so. So don’t try too hard. If you can open with a killer intriguing line, great. If not, don’t force it.

    • @susanrobertson984
      @susanrobertson984 4 місяці тому +5

      Very similar to dirk gently’s detective agency - the horoscope failed to mention he would be dead by the end of the day.

    • @just_Klinton
      @just_Klinton 3 місяці тому

      The opposite of fate by Amy Tan

    • @nonono9194
      @nonono9194 2 місяці тому

      ​@@kaasmeester5903the first sentence should be easy to write if you've got an interesting concept and story

  • @KarmaSpaz12
    @KarmaSpaz12 5 місяців тому +92

    The only problem I've found with cutting out scenes is the parts left out "just for me" as you said. For example it seemed to be a problem in the latest Star Wars trilogy that characters were introduced with missing context, and while the actors playing them got what might be considered need to know information by the director/lore writers the audience was left in the dark. Of course a lot of that information was probably destined for spin offs, endless endless spin offs. So when I edit I need to make sure that there's enough character context and reasons for them to be doing what they're doing or feeling a certain way.

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 4 місяці тому +4

      Yes! It's important to check cut material for any important info about characters/plot/etc, as having written it can make us think that the reader thus knows that info when in fact we've cut it out. (Of course, this has never, ever, _ever_ happened to me… 😅)

  • @kamikeserpentail3778
    @kamikeserpentail3778 4 місяці тому +7

    I never considered myself a writer, even in writing classes I just really struggled to flesh anything out.
    However I've always loved reading.
    Now years later I find myself with a story idea I feel absolutely compelled to write.
    I've learned a lot in those years.
    One thing I've definitely struggled with is perfectionism, and I'm now starting to see how silly it is to expect to get it perfect, or even at all, on the rough draft.
    It seems so funny now, to think that I imagined stories were written in the same order they are read.
    So now I'm just starting.
    Going with my emotions, and interests.
    It may not be beautiful.
    It may not never be published.
    But it will be mine.

  • @Buchnerd_Souly
    @Buchnerd_Souly 5 місяців тому +61

    11:16 Yeah, just a nerd here: atoms on earth approx 10^60 and combinations of a 52 card deck would be a faculty 52! which is around 8*10^67

    • @GleamDrawz
      @GleamDrawz 4 місяці тому

      Hey, as someone who doesn't understand math could you break this down to me like im 5 years old? 😅 sorry, it seems interesting but its like a different language to me.

    • @vedantthapar3666
      @vedantthapar3666 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@GleamDrawz10^60 is 1 followed by 60 zeroes, or
      1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,
      While 8*10^67 is 8 followed by 67 zeroes, or
      80000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
      It's worth noting that while these look near identical if you just glance over them, 10^67 is significantly larger than 10^60, a million times larger to be exact.
      52! Is read as 52 factorial. 52! = 52 * 51 * 50 * 49..... * 3 * 2 * 1.
      The reason why there are 52! Possible arrangements of a deck of cards is that there are 52 total cards. If you imagine having a full deck in front of you, and individually choosing each card to fit in a slot, there are 52 choices for the first slot, (52 total) 51 choices for the second, as one has been chosen already (52 * 51 total) and so on until you reach the last slot, where you can only choose 1 card

    • @GleamDrawz
      @GleamDrawz 4 місяці тому +1

      @@vedantthapar3666 if you don't mind me asking, how did you get from 52 to 8*10^67? And what do the asterisks mean? TYSMMMM somehow i feel like I've learned more math from your 4 paragraphs than my entire school year 😭

    • @gaopinghu7332
      @gaopinghu7332 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@GleamDrawz asterisks are multiplication. 3*3=9.
      They're there because it's common in programming, since most old keyboards didn't have the × symbol, so the first computer programs improvised.
      ^ means exponentiation. So, 2^3=8, or if you aren't familiar with exponentiation, it's repeated multiplication. 2^3 is 2*2*2, so 8.
      ! is factorial. As they explained, you take the number behind the symbol and multiply it by every number smaller than it. 3! is 3*2*1, so 6.
      52! gives the result 8*10^67. In other words, 52*51*50*49... all the way to 1 is equal to 10^67, so 10*10*10*10... 67 times, all multiplied by 8, so we have an 8 followed by 67 zeroes.

    • @crazycat1503
      @crazycat1503 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@gaopinghu7332well, 52! Is not exactly 8*10^67, only approximately.

  • @tsentenari4353
    @tsentenari4353 5 місяців тому +37

    Extremely useful.
    I love the way you base your approach on using examples.
    I love how, on top of giving an example of what you would suggest to avoid - you then offer an improved version, that shows how to do it better, rather than just describing in abstract terms what to improve.
    I am not sure I agree with your first example, I have to admit I find the moustache and the moon opening endearing. Plus A Song of Ice and Fire starts with throwaway characters, too. (Who get killed, okay.) But this is to be expected, different people are bound to have different preferences.
    I found your second example with the assassin preparing his attack very illuminating, it is something I was not aware of that clearly.
    I found it especially helpful that you said "a lesser rate of revelation can be okay elsewhere in your book, but not on your first page".
    And I found the whole idea of the "Unique storytelling proposition" very suggestive.
    In spite of having watched a few videos on this subject, I found lots of things I hadn't heard befor in your take.

  • @Rai_Arashi
    @Rai_Arashi 5 місяців тому +15

    Your videos are still small gold mines for writers, I truly love your videos

  • @tiffanylamb1187
    @tiffanylamb1187 3 місяці тому +2

    I love hearing that you've rewritten or added a completely new first chapter after your first draft. I got my first draft done, and then wasn't really satisfied, so that's exactly what I ended up doing, rewriting the entire first chapter from scratch and adding new chapters. It is so much better now! I took Brandon Sanderson's advice to heart. He said he didn't sell his first 15 novels because once written, he never went back and tried to improve on them or redraft them. Check - lesson learned. I avidly watch his videos, your videos, and a few other authors. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!

  • @MrFudgepump
    @MrFudgepump 5 місяців тому +13

    I finally decided to have a go at writing a story, and your first piece of advice about the first line is a relief to hear. My story jumps straight into creating an intriguing scene and I've been agonising about a rewrite where the first line is catchy. This was a bit of a confidence boost. Thank you.

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 4 місяці тому +1

      Catchy is a bonus, but relevant is a requirement. In most cases, your first line should connect directly with the rest of the page and chapter. If guy promise a deep dive, you'd better not link to a listicle 😉 For now, don't stress too much over the actual wording. Keep developing your intriguing scene, and when you've got it fleshed out, go back and work on that first like again. Good luck, fellow writer!

  • @kayeff7155
    @kayeff7155 5 місяців тому +9

    My favourite opening line of all time is from the Gunslinger by Stephen king. "the man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed". It raises so many quesions yet it's so concise. Love it.

    • @JerrBaybEe
      @JerrBaybEe 5 місяців тому

      I think he uses that in the video but I thought he said it was from Dark Tower

    • @kayeff7155
      @kayeff7155 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@JerrBaybEe the Gunslinger is the first book in the Dark Tower series.

    • @rebeccaweaver2460
      @rebeccaweaver2460 4 місяці тому

      He tells us the whole story in the first sentence, it's incredible. A masterclass in opening a novel.

  • @Jed_Herne
    @Jed_Herne  5 місяців тому +33

    Want me to give you feedback on your opening chapter? Get your ticket to my live First Chapter Critique Workshop: jedherne.com/first-chapter-workshop/

    • @LarryThePhotoGuy
      @LarryThePhotoGuy 5 місяців тому

      I've been thinking that my Trilogy would begin with an introduction by the "author/compiler."
      Memoirs, written by and for 8 historically important characters are brought together perhaps a century later and "novelized" to tell a more "approachable, concise and entertaining" version of important historical events.
      These characters will therefore each have 1st person narratives. There's a "main" character, one of 3 "central" characters around which most of the action will take place. The 5 other characters each get a few chapters of their own which I am treating as short stories.
      Does this intro count as a "1st page? If so, any tips?
      If not, I'm still working on the Main character's 1st page.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki 5 місяців тому

      21:35
      Lightsabers detected.
      Disney: copyright lawyers dispatched 😂

    • @UltraLaidback
      @UltraLaidback 5 місяців тому +1

      I hope my chapter gets picked! I'm very excited

    • @Enchanteexoxo
      @Enchanteexoxo 4 місяці тому +2

      I missed it. Will you be doing something like this again? 🥺

  • @theatheistpaladin
    @theatheistpaladin 5 місяців тому +20

    I got a prologue that starts like scifi battle. It becomes a precipitating incident in the fantasy kingdom. The king was deciding what to do about the decline of the kingdom.
    It basically becomes the reason to increase forces in the kingdom. Allowing commoners to be trained in magic.
    There are three factions one of magic, another of alchemy, and of science. Each will have books following them and over time will come into conflict with one another.

    • @HungryEyes-sl3mu
      @HungryEyes-sl3mu 5 місяців тому

      Sounds interesting, but instead of starting with the king mulling over the state of affairs you could start with one of the commenors being trained. That would thrust the reader directly into the conflict, give us a character to latch on to, and you could gradually introduce the conflict facing the kingdom down the line.

    • @theatheistpaladin
      @theatheistpaladin 5 місяців тому

      @@HungryEyes-sl3mu
      He already confronted the villain and has a reason not to want to be there. Cut that out and I am going straight to a whiney character.

  • @FJ-rh6io
    @FJ-rh6io 3 місяці тому +1

    Your channel has been so helpful. I'm really starting to get encouraged about taking the story I'm writing seriously. Watching you I'm not only gathering a ton of useful information on things to look out for and how to improve. I'm also finding that there is a good handful of mistakes I'm not actually making. That's a start! I can probably actually do this

  • @kounurasaka5590
    @kounurasaka5590 4 місяці тому +24

    Out of all of these, I defiantly think Overwhelming Readers is the worst option. For a great example of this, check out Final Fantasy 13's opening hour. In the span of an hour, you have, on memory, about 10 different proper nouns all used interchangeably without any context or meaning behind what they mean.
    Cocoon
    Pulse
    l'Cie
    Fal Cie
    PSICOM
    Guardian Corps
    NORA
    Cieth
    That's just off the top of my head including introducing 6 or so main characters: Lightning, Serah, Hope, Sazh, Vanille, and Snow along with a smattering of other NPC who come and go and a few villains as well.
    It is completely overwhelming and many of these terms don't get explained until much later in the story.

    • @RonDangerSolo
      @RonDangerSolo 4 місяці тому +1

      Not to mention Hope’s mother’s name is Nora, so in the first hour there are two unrelated Nora’s being mentioned in the same scene with little explanation. It’s kind of funny that someone on the development team must have known it was overwhelming because there’s like a whole glossary to explain things that the game hasn’t. It’s also a good sign that you need an audience insert character that can ask questions if you have a weird scifi setting. Everyone in FFXIII just knows what all these terms mean so nothing is ever properly relayed!

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 4 місяці тому

      Jack Vance was a master of coming up with words; even if he did so sparingly, you would have no trouble telling whatever meant from context. And it instantly painted a picture in your head.

    • @konrad_m_rataj
      @konrad_m_rataj 3 місяці тому

      I played through twenty hours of FFXIII and I don’t know what l’Cie is to this day.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 3 місяці тому

      The l’Cie are people enchanted with powers from the fal’Cie. Furthermore, l’Cie are enchanted with powers to fulfill a certain task. Upon succeeding, they become crystals. Upon failing, they become the monstrous Cie’th.

    • @konrad_m_rataj
      @konrad_m_rataj 3 місяці тому

      @@iantaakalla8180Thank you, but you misunderstood me. This game came out 15 years ago. It was so badly written and directed, explaining almost nothing to the player and forcing me to check the plot *of the game I’m playing* on the wikis, I stopped caring and still don’t.

  • @Darkhemplar
    @Darkhemplar 4 місяці тому +3

    I just want to say these videos are super helpful. I have yet to actually write anything publishable and am still new when it comes to writing but having you brake it down like this helps me to wrap my head around the monumental task that is writing a book. I do not know if your actually read these comments but gonna say it anyway thanks Jed!! hopefully I can become half the author/teacher you are!!

  • @Kam_i_
    @Kam_i_ 3 місяці тому +16

    the opening to the first hunger games book is a masterclass of characterization and world building:
    “When I wake up, the other side of the bed is cold. My fingers stretch out, seeking Prim’s warmth but finding only the rough canvas cover of the mattress. She must have had bad dreams and climbed in with our mother. Of course, she did. This is the day of the reaping.”
    In just five very simple sentences we learn of Katniss’s financial situation, her family unit’s predicament, and the main threat towards them:
    1. We understand that this main character shares an uncomfortable bed in a cold room with someone who is likely her younger sister, so she is probably poor.
    2. Her mother has her own bed, so there is likely only one parent left in this house.
    3. Something is scary enough about this “reaping” day that it prompts little girls to climb into their parents’ beds, though that act is usually demeaning for young children past a certain age, as they often want to seem more adult.
    The prose around her bed being cold and stretching her fingers to seek warmth is also interesting; it sets up Katniss’s obsession with the bare necessities of human comfort. Throughout the rest of the book, it’s well established that Katniss has trouble thinking about interpersonal relationships and being considerate of others because her entire existence revolves around ensuring that her immediate family unit has direct access to sufficient food, water, and shelter. She is highly attuned to just the right amount of food that will sustain one day of hunting, the level of dehydration that will prevent her from getting back up if she collapses, the degree of exposure to the elements that will kill her in one night. The opening paragraph flawlessly establishes the premise of the book right from the jump, you wouldn’t even have to read the blurb to orient yourself in the story.

  • @ghostdreamer7272
    @ghostdreamer7272 5 місяців тому +4

    I really appreciated that “6 ways to open” section! I really helped me improve my vision and objectives for the first chapter I already have planned

  • @InfernoVor
    @InfernoVor 3 місяці тому +6

    For the 1st tip the reader doesn't even have to realize they were baited. They will just eventually(depending on how far from expectations it is) start to think that it isn't as good as they thought it'd be.

  • @firey1015
    @firey1015 4 місяці тому +3

    4:18 that sold me now I want to read the book.

  • @echobreezemusic
    @echobreezemusic 4 дні тому

    I just started writing my first fantasy novel, which i plan to make part of a series. So far, my close friends and family have seen what ive got, and they think its good. The tips you've given here will really help to make it great. Thank you

  • @rpgranked
    @rpgranked Місяць тому

    Just discovered your videos and just seeing your older videos until now makes me proud of how far you've come! I'm just finishing the final edits of my book and ready to submit to an agent, and I'm loving your videos so far! They are just so fun to listen to!

  • @ethandowler4669
    @ethandowler4669 5 місяців тому +13

    The rate of revelation is a new concept to me. Thanks for the vid!

    • @CitizenMio
      @CitizenMio 3 місяці тому

      While I generally agree with moving the action along, the edited version removed most of the setting completely for me.
      It doesn't read as night time to me anymore, making it sound as if someone is on a roof staring inside a window during daytime. Making me double back to check what's actually going on.
      I think the writer intended there to be a contemplating pauze as the assassin considers his options, safely cloaked by the dead of night.
      So I wouldn't cut that description entirely, but phrase it differently and just stick to one image.
      Then move into action.

    • @ethandowler4669
      @ethandowler4669 3 місяці тому

      @@CitizenMio you could also "reveal" that it's night earlier in the passage (previous page, etc.), so you don't need it here. that still helps the "rate" of revelation. Maybe don't try to pack all the details into one sentence/paragraph.

    • @CitizenMio
      @CitizenMio 3 місяці тому

      @ethandowler4669
      True, but this example is supposed to be the first page of your story, if not the very first line. Not much before that ;)

    • @ethandowler4669
      @ethandowler4669 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CitizenMio oh i must have missed that part of the context. my original comment is from a month ago, so I don't remember everything.

  • @davideldridge3686
    @davideldridge3686 Місяць тому +2

    I started out a book with a dialogue dump. My first editor read it and said, "this opening is too much talking, not because it is bad or uninteresting, but because rest of the book has so much action." She said, "it was like you started out writing The Notebook and switched to Die Hard." So I trimmed the dialogue, made it the second chapter and added a more exciting first chapter that told more about who, what and where two of the main characters came from.

  • @llywyllngryffyn8053
    @llywyllngryffyn8053 5 місяців тому +9

    Re: Point #1. Mark Lawrence's Red Sister. It begins with a hell of a click-bait sentence.. but the book delivers on it, or rather the trilogy does. The framing story that is glimpsed at the beginning of books one and two is really paid off in book three. But, there was plenty of indications that it was going to be, so it never felt like a bait and switch. You shouldn't be discouraged to open with a bomb like this, as long as you light the fuse and it isn't a big dud.

    • @michaelbodell7740
      @michaelbodell7740 5 місяців тому +5

      It is important, when killing a nun, to ensure that you bring an army of sufficient size. For Sister Thorn of the Sweet Mercy Convent Lano Tacsis brought two hundred men.
      Great intro sentence, great trilogy. Some didn't like the flashforward/flashback battle scenes, but I loved the trilogy. And yeah it was a case of promises made, promises delivered which is a point Sanderson makes in his writing teaching too.

    • @jellevanbreugel325
      @jellevanbreugel325 5 місяців тому

      yep, loved the interlude scenes as well!

  • @PenSwordTheFirst
    @PenSwordTheFirst 5 місяців тому +5

    Your 'speed of revelation' idea is a really interesting pacing tool. Cheers.

  • @lady_draguliana784
    @lady_draguliana784 5 місяців тому +4

    27:00 I always hold up Wheel of Time's opening for how to juggle a LARGE cast, from the get-go

  • @Awkward_Baby
    @Awkward_Baby 3 місяці тому +4

    0:20 why does this instantly make me think of the first Percy Jackson book: The Lightning Theif?

    • @BlazeDupree1525
      @BlazeDupree1525 Місяць тому

      I vaporized my algebra teacher isn't click bate it's iconic.

  • @SonarWavePulse
    @SonarWavePulse 4 місяці тому +2

    This is amazingly useful, especially the bit about the rate of revelation

  • @jordanchobson
    @jordanchobson 4 місяці тому +1

    I adore Terry Pratchett's opening in Colour of Magic. I aim for the kind of levity and joy he brings to his novels!

  • @leg912
    @leg912 5 місяців тому +1

    The first of many writing videos that helped me to start writing.
    Especially USP and 6 common opening options! I vaguely understood those two concepts but now it's clear to me; especially the latter. I'm too lazy to analyze works that I like, and knowing them really helps to pick an opening that strikes the tone of the story.
    Here's one:
    "The front door had been opened when she came back from work."

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 4 місяці тому +1

      Nice line! Introduces immediate unease. Would "was already open" work? I do like how "had been opened" makes us question who opened it, but it's also a bit passive. Depends on your overall voice and tone, though, so what you have might work best 😊

  • @jay_Dud8003
    @jay_Dud8003 5 місяців тому +3

    I used a different opening option for my story which may (or may not) get published. As a broader idea, I guess it would be called "The Day Everything Changed" or "The Turning Point". You start on an event or day that changes everything about your protagonist or antagonist, and sends them into the story of growth and development you are making. Mine starts by describing a feast among nobles, and then my protagonist walks in and gets disowned by his father.
    Overall, great video Jed! It was very thorough and encouraged me to look back and reread my openings for the book and chapters.

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 4 місяці тому

      I'm already intrigued by the premise! During that first feast part, can you introduce tension into the scene? Maybe the guests know something is up from the disowning parent's behavior, but they're not sure about the specifics and worry that whatever it is will affect them. (Not sure if your POV is 3rd omniscient; if not, you can give your MC that anxiety, or make them happily oblivious with perhaps a few hints they don't pick up on that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.)

  • @Cagnazzo13
    @Cagnazzo13 Місяць тому

    The beginning that's always been vivid in my mind since reading it was a book where this soldier was hurt and stuck in bed looking out a window, then decided his fate and just walked out the window (was on the ground floor) leading to the rest of the story. It was such an odd action yet made so much sense for that character and was also symbolic all wrapped into one.

  • @SleepParty30
    @SleepParty30 5 місяців тому +1

    I've been writing for over a decade, and I've finished a fantasy trilogy, but the opening for the first book has given me nightmares. I've changed it at least 40 times these past ten years, and I finally wrote one that I truly like, but still, the uncertainty clings onto me like a shadow.
    Anyways, I'm about to seek agents to publish my trilogy. It's been fun writing it. Thanks for all the videos, Jed! You and other content creators have helped plenty.

  • @qlord909
    @qlord909 13 днів тому

    Love these helpful tips, I think it definitely makes me hyper aware to some problems in my favourite fictions or even my own books

  • @flavian_639
    @flavian_639 5 місяців тому +3

    Your tips are so useful, absolutely love them all, can you make a video about writing plot scenes, like scenes where some big info is revealed or some other conflicts builds up.

  • @asrgelpi_author
    @asrgelpi_author 3 місяці тому

    This is a great video with great tips for writing improvement. Unlike others, you provide actual examples, and that alone is gold. Thank you!

  • @audiobookemperor
    @audiobookemperor 4 місяці тому +1

    I should have watched this days ago. I would have loved to join the workshop. I hope you have another one soon!

  • @ruanholtzhausen4000
    @ruanholtzhausen4000 4 місяці тому

    I just watched a few videos to help me with my stories in English, but I'm finding myself just continueing to watch his videos for fun.

  • @lady_draguliana784
    @lady_draguliana784 5 місяців тому +3

    17:20 agreed, There are some great essays on YT defending exposition... so long as it's good

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 4 місяці тому +1

      Fr you can get away with anything as long as it's good 😂

    • @lady_draguliana784
      @lady_draguliana784 4 місяці тому

      @@emilyrln absolutely! for every "never do X in writing" """"rule""""", there's an exception! 🤣

  • @ExiledinElysium
    @ExiledinElysium 2 місяці тому

    Another banger of a video. Excellent content. All your lessons make me want to sit down and get to work immediately.

  • @samuelmark
    @samuelmark Місяць тому

    Moment you began talking about the opening with lore, I was absolutely certain you were gonna bring up color of magic, it's one of the best openings of all time, imo.

  • @Wiizardii
    @Wiizardii 5 місяців тому

    Hey Jed, I have a suggestion for a topic - could you make a video on going through tough times/frustrations as a writer and mindset tips on how to keep pushing on?

  • @missseaweed2462
    @missseaweed2462 4 місяці тому

    When I was in elementary or middle school, I remember writing the opening sentence to an essay as going along the lines of, "The applause was thuderous," before proceeding to paint a picture of our concert band on stage, the thrill and joy of playing in front of a large audience. I didn't think much of that opening line, just that it meant to help introduce the setting, but when I had my mom read it, she made a particular note of the strong impression that the first line promised and delivered. It surprised me how much she liked it, and that became a minor core memory for me.

  • @extrakrispy81
    @extrakrispy81 4 місяці тому +1

    I agree that the very start of chapter one of the Six of Crows is a little eh, but I still appreciate how it sets up how powerful and frightening the magic of the setting is and plants the thought of the magic enhancement drugs in our mind before introducing us to our magicless protagonist.

  • @anthonywritesfantasy
    @anthonywritesfantasy 5 місяців тому +2

    My favorite opening lines are all about atmosphere. Facts are so second paragraph.

  • @oougahersharr
    @oougahersharr 3 місяці тому +1

    Must say that I wrote a story (never finished, sadly) that started with "The horses screamed." and followed immediately with a description of the carriage, horses and all, sliding off an icy cliff. I was told by others reading it, that it was the perfect beginning to this particular story. I don't think I've ever been able to recapture the "feeling" with a first sentence quite like that one. Sigh.

  • @Aashbard01
    @Aashbard01 4 місяці тому +3

    The first sentence of chapter 2 of “six of crows” tells us so much about the characters both Laz and Inej and creates intrigue
    I recently read “fourth wing” at it started with the main character Violet Sorrengail who’s getting ready to cross the parapet and enter the war of Basgiath as well as the stakes and why she’s there. It honestly makes sense to start the story that way because that’s how the blurb starts and anything else would have felt dull boring and unnecessary.
    I think that this knowledge can be used in any novel to grip the reader with a great hook. I love watching these videos because they always teach me something new about writing!!
    Thank you so much for making this video❤

  • @A.I.AdventuresAudiobooks
    @A.I.AdventuresAudiobooks 2 місяці тому

    "The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed."
    I love your content, thank you to put it out there!!

  • @jannertfol
    @jannertfol 4 місяці тому

    I really liked this video ...I don't write fantasy, but your advice works for just about all other kinds of writing as well. I especially liked your last point. Don't spend too much time perfecting your opener when you're just getting started on the story. Keep going. When you have a better handle on how your story evolves, you will probably want to re-do the beginning anyway ...even dump your original beginning and write another one. Ensure that the beginning really does launch the story in the direction you want it to go.
    You don't even have to start with the opener, by the way. One way to pants-write a story is to write vivid scenes as they occur to you. They don't have to be in chronological order. In fact, you can even write the concluding chapter first. Once you've written enough of these disjointed scenes, your story will start to take shape ...and you can fit the parts together, write bridging scenes, etc. You don't have to write everything in chronological order, and you don't have to perfect each chapter before moving on. Nothing is a done deal till you get the story published.

    • @jaygaymes
      @jaygaymes 4 місяці тому

      This right here. I'm hardly an accomplished writer but I find when I don't know how to continue what I'm presently working on, writing a scene I do want helps, even if it doesn't fit *yet.* Then I can use it as a goal post to progress my story toward.

  • @fyrebirdarts7634
    @fyrebirdarts7634 4 місяці тому +1

    When he said "strange worldbuilding" I immediately thought of Mistborn's opening line--"Ash fell from the sky." :3

  • @winterhaydn
    @winterhaydn 3 місяці тому +2

    Me: ChatGPT, write me a first page for my novel.
    ChatGPT: It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times--
    *shuts off computer*

  • @ryanizanami4866
    @ryanizanami4866 4 місяці тому +1

    I know Jed's here to remind me NOT to make mistakes. Thanks 🍁✨

    • @jannertfol
      @jannertfol 4 місяці тому

      It's okay to make mistakes! Just as long as you catch them and fix them before you publish. In fact, mistakes can really help you to learn. I think fear of making mistakes is one of the main things that holds writers back. Go ahead. Make mistakes! Write without fear; edit without mercy. Good advice.

  • @SlyNine
    @SlyNine 3 місяці тому +1

    Rules are made to be broken. Just make sure you have a really good reason.

  • @belle132
    @belle132 3 місяці тому

    I learned so much from this video! Crazy. Thank you so much, Jed!

  • @MorgottofLeyendell
    @MorgottofLeyendell 4 місяці тому

    A good example of the world building opening is in the first book of the Wingfeather Saga, we are given the general history of the world as well as the setting in an introduction info dump. But it has such a whimisical and interesting way of going about it that it pulls you into the story.

  • @madisonseyfried9298
    @madisonseyfried9298 4 місяці тому

    I'm so upset that I waited to watch this video today--one day AFTER your workshop!

  • @justaguy8548
    @justaguy8548 3 місяці тому

    Thank you! Keep the content! All The Best!!! 🙏❤

  • @vastvideos7212
    @vastvideos7212 2 місяці тому

    Thx for the tips. I'm writing a groundbreaking sci-fi .I have some great ideas, concepts, and overall story, but my execution requires more practice.

  • @JanbluTheDerg
    @JanbluTheDerg 5 місяців тому +3

    The opening to Animorphs 1 is strong (though it gets weakened as every following book uses the same style of opening, thanks monthly scholastic book fairs!): "My name is Jake. That's my first name, obviously. I can't tell you my last name. It would be too dangerous. The Controllers are everywhere. Everywhere. And if they knew my full name, they could find me and my friends, and then... well, let's just say I don't want them to find me. What they do to people who resist them is too horrible to think about." it then goes on to talk about not mentioning the town he lives in, mentioning why he's writing and mentioning two important things "Maybe then, somehow, the human race can survive until the Andalites return and rescue us, as they promised they would."
    From here the book smoothly transitions into it's main plot.

  • @Willow-of-the-Wind
    @Willow-of-the-Wind 4 місяці тому +23

    1. Drama hook first line. In other words, don’t set too high of a bar in your first sentence.
    2. Slow burn. Don’t set too detailed of a scene.
    I’m going to take exception to this and I think there’s a whole lot of highly regarded authors who do this well. Coughing that sounds like Tolstoy and Rand. Sorry, I loved the first version. I love getting immersed into a scene especially if the intent is to create tension. Slow burn is popular and something I love.
    3. USP. Hum, maybe. Then again maybe just let the artist learn from experience?
    4. Opening options. Okay, yes. It’s good to have, know and appreciate different options.
    5. Information Dump.
    6. Doing it perfectly.
    I’m left unsure, was this a waste of my time? Well, maybe not, won’t be using your services as an editor. Our styles are different.

  • @unicorntomboy9736
    @unicorntomboy9736 5 місяців тому +1

    I start my first chapter describing my bleak grimdark landscape from the perspective of my teenage girl protagonist, who feels trapped and desires independence and external validation.
    It features a lot of interiority when using environmental description, since it is done from the perspective of my main character

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 4 місяці тому +1

    Very positive: most things goes, but 1. come to the point in a proper time, don't repeat yourself and bore the reader, 2. don't overwhelm the reader with too much detail, 3. please keep to the topic!

  • @PhoenixCrown
    @PhoenixCrown 5 місяців тому

    Great video. Can't wait for the call this weekend!

  • @kellyfreyermuth7057
    @kellyfreyermuth7057 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video Jed, really helpful, but I was wondering if you could do a video on outlining tips. I’m trying to outline a novel and I can’t quite get the hang of it.

  • @CryogenicGamer
    @CryogenicGamer 5 місяців тому +2

    I think I may have done a story in miniature for my first chapter of a webnovel I’m doing.
    Although I did proceed to split into 4 part for the ease of entry. lol 😂

  • @michaelb4201
    @michaelb4201 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey Jed, when you talk about the opening to your book around 23:40 , just want you to know it was good, but I did not get ANY of what you were trying to get me to get reading that😂😂😂

  • @Alexander-tu3iv
    @Alexander-tu3iv 3 місяці тому

    One of my favourite opening lines is from Gideon the ninth.
    "In the myriadic year of our lord - the ten thousandth year of the King Undying, the kindly Prince of Death - Gideon Nav packed her sword, her shoes and her dirty magazines, and she escaped from the House of the Ninth."
    You get an idea of the setting, the character and the plot all in one sentence.

  • @hejimony
    @hejimony 4 місяці тому +3

    Try the greatest opening paragraph ever, from We Have Always Lived in the Castle, by Shirley Jackson. You can't not keep reading: My name is Mary Katherine Blackwood. I am eighteen years old, and I live with my sister Constance. I have often thought that with any luck at all I could have been born a werewolf, because the two middle fingers on both my hands are the same length, but I have had to be content with what I had. I dislike washing myself, and dogs, and noise. I like my sister Constance, and Richard Plantagenet, and Amanita phalloides, the death-cup mushroom. Everyone else in my family is dead.

  • @yolowex6876
    @yolowex6876 3 місяці тому +1

    Jed: I promise the final thing does have words in it 29:04
    Viewers: NO SHIT!

  • @jpolgar1
    @jpolgar1 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for this great and concise video and channel, Jed! Your work helps the writing community in big ways. For the past two years, I’ve been diligently working on a sci fi fantasy novel and have a solid seventy page word doc outline to work from. Where I keep getting stuck, however, is the first chapter! I just finished my third iteration, felt good about it, and then realized soon after that I was asking too much of it. I feel strongly about the book beginning with the main character’s dream, because it reveals the truth of who she is and the spiritual foundation of the story. However, when she is pulled out of the dream by her commander, I’ve had hard time establishing their world and situation. After watching this video, I have decided to start the story closer to the inciting incident where the main character makes a self sacrificing deal with the enemy queen to save the commander’s life (akin to Little Mermaid). Then in the subsequent chapter, establish her life at the main headquarters, revealing the trie story arc- kill the enemy civilization and save the commander (this, of course, gets turned on its head). I was also thinking that maybe a brief prologue from one of the side characters (hype man) would be a good place to ground the reader so they can jump into the mission , avoiding info dumping or backtracking. All of my friends say the story works as a whole, but kicking it off has been a wild ride haha.

    • @IAteFire
      @IAteFire 5 місяців тому +1

      Dream sequence openings are big new writer traps. I’d avoid it - it’s an easy way to get a potential agent/editor/publisher to insta-deny.

  • @cloud1973
    @cloud1973 Місяць тому

    I feel like this kind of stuff can apply to other types of story genres too, like Sci-fi or some such. All-around advice that's good in any way.

  • @jaygaymes
    @jaygaymes 4 місяці тому

    Every time I watch a video or read advice on first page/paragraph advice, I get nervous and reread my first paragraph, wondering if it's actually as good as I think it is or if I'm biased because I wrote it.
    However, you pointing out that it's good for each sentence to serve a dual purpose has me feeling much better as that's what each sentence of my first paragraph does - in the first sentence, you meet the main character and I mention recycled oxygen - so he is in some kind of sealed environment. The second sentence is him calming himself with a deep breath, so he has some kind of nervousness or tension going on. The third sentence confirms this, and explains that he is nervously excited.
    But why?
    The next sentence says that he spent two years in a physically and mentally exhausting training and testing situation, and is about to hear the results of his final test. Then it's a series of questions that indicate his own lack of confidence in his abilities/performance, and it's suddenly confirmed (via these questions) that he is trying to get a position on board a starship by asking himself if he'd end up on the bridge, warp drive, or something less savory. There is a series of three questions to himself, back to back, which my goal was to express his nervousness by questioning everything.
    I feel much better about it when I look at it through the lens of "dual purpose" sentences. Thank you.

  • @chrispyakwriter
    @chrispyakwriter 4 місяці тому +1

    Jed, I saw just the preview picture for this video and immediately thought: "War and Peace". I read like crazy when I was a child. Everything from Gardening tips to high literature. The only book I ever gave up on was "War and Peace": Because there were soo many characters! AND: Many of them had the exact same name and title! (Father and son). Super confusing and annoying!

  • @Goomaster101
    @Goomaster101 5 місяців тому

    I was working on my first chapter this morning, what a coincidence lol

  • @walterwoods8978
    @walterwoods8978 2 місяці тому

    "Lisa is pregnant" is one opening sentence that has stuck with me since 2013 🤣. Life as we knew it. Such a good book

  • @jakjak30
    @jakjak30 5 місяців тому +1

    As always, a great insightful video!

  • @tabletbrothers3477
    @tabletbrothers3477 5 місяців тому

    Hello, I am once again asking for an anual renewal of the magic system contest.
    Dang, he really has a way making writing sound so easy. Every time I finish a Jed video I feel like I could just write a million words (or in this case 150 words :P) on the spot.

  • @λιμινιλ
    @λιμινιλ 2 місяці тому

    Excellent content! Thanks, Jed.

  • @WreckItRolfe
    @WreckItRolfe 4 місяці тому +8

    Surely book-based clickbait would be Flickbait.

  • @SAQpilot
    @SAQpilot 5 місяців тому +1

    You should do a discord server. Best option for channels like yours.
    Love from argentina ❤

  • @DarkTider
    @DarkTider 5 місяців тому +1

    5:56 - Im also noticing that opening uses a lot of passive "ingly" conjugations in that opening, which in turn also helps the phrases seem very inactive and extra boring.

  • @aniieesteiner
    @aniieesteiner 3 місяці тому

    My "Big Book" as I call it starts with a town crier announcing that there will be a sentencing carried out (and the next couple of pages are just that). I wrote that, and 4 more chapters, and then decided it was a stupid place to start. Now I've tried to decide for almost a year how better to start. Drawing a blank. Oh, well.
    I really appreciate your videos. I am in a really long (almost permanent 10-years) semi-writer's block, and hearing others just talk writing helps.

    • @BlazeDupree1525
      @BlazeDupree1525 Місяць тому

      I feel this I have the whole main plot figured out but I'm really struggling to come up with a really good hook to start the story with.

    • @aniieesteiner
      @aniieesteiner Місяць тому

      @@BlazeDupree1525 don't start att the Beginning. Just start.

    • @BlazeDupree1525
      @BlazeDupree1525 Місяць тому

      @@aniieesteiner I have an idea of how I want the plot to go I just don't know how to get to that point.

  • @צמחישראלמרום
    @צמחישראלמרום 3 місяці тому

    I love the name of the wing opening

  • @UltraLaidback
    @UltraLaidback 5 місяців тому

    Oh jed, now i want to rewrite my opening so bad but i already submitted my first chapter weeks ago 😂

  • @bluejayblaze1180
    @bluejayblaze1180 4 місяці тому

    My first sentence is "Happy 30th, Threkki!"
    I'm not sure if it's clickbait-y, but it gets across a lot of information about my main character and the type of story it is very quickly. I'm opening on his birthday; this is a coming of age story. You immediately know how old he is and one of his nicknames, and that he has a relatively good relationship with the person speaking to him.

  • @Itz_alex0
    @Itz_alex0 4 місяці тому

    My first sentence was world building.. although currently a wip i think i'll change it eventually.

  • @josephgamelin9739
    @josephgamelin9739 4 місяці тому +1

    How about, "Marley was dead to begin with".... Worked for Dickens.
    But it's got to be done right

  • @Blate1
    @Blate1 5 місяців тому

    You undersold the deck of cards analogy. It’s actually more than the number of atoms in the entire galaxy. Not important, but a wild fact

  • @williamsutton6738
    @williamsutton6738 4 місяці тому +2

    “Something becomes perfect, not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to subtract.”

  • @focusrelax8838
    @focusrelax8838 5 місяців тому

    21:15 wow really glad you picked up the Sun eater series!!!

  • @dangerbook4807
    @dangerbook4807 19 днів тому

    I heard that bit about how this character in the first scene was a throwaway that would never be heard from again and immediately tried to argue in my head that quite often there's a scene with characters who never appear again - then again, it's because the first scene is about a murder, and the character is both unimportant and dead but his murderer is important - or something else, or something else. It does add a little suspense if your first scene looks unimportant (to start with) but it's odd and you're wondering how it will become important.

  • @AdaraHaze
    @AdaraHaze Місяць тому

    Good stuff, listen and learn

  • @aetriandimitri190
    @aetriandimitri190 3 місяці тому

    This is the current working opening line for my book, although i dont know if it counts as an opening line, meant to set up the theme of rebellion, the elites being too confident, and that the antagonist, who the next three chapters are dedicated to, falls into the pattern of how all rebellions go and succeed
    "“Revolutions are born in the muck where the oppressors are too disgusted to even acknowledge them as a threat. Too dignified in their high towers and citadels to credit the dirt beneath them. But without the dirt, all foundations fall”
    - Excerpt of “Fall of King’s Watch”
    By Heida of the Amber Court "
    Does this sound like a good intro? Set up the core theme early on that the story is about rebellion, just to later pull the twist that its a rebellion that needs to be stopped. It sortof falls into the story in miniature