Things That Don't Work in SVC Chaos - Watch The Last One WOW - Video Guide Glitches SNK vs Capcom
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- SVC Chaos SNK vs Capcom got released on a few platforms.
Going to see if some glitches that I found in 2006 arcade version are still in the Steam version.
Hugo has an instant win 100% glitch.
The developer (Code Mystics) said they did not change anything in the game. To retain the original source material as it was made in 2003. bloopers
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Enabling hitbox mode will probably explain the majority of these quirks. They are probably hitbox shenanigans.
I don't care how broken and janky this game is I still love it. Been playing it on my moded ps2 for well over 10years and now I can finally play it online for ps4. What a time to be alive. Long live Guard Cancel Front Step
i like it too even in its broken state 🥴
Agreed. I only play this game single player anyway, and I don’t find that its ‘jank’ hurts anything. If anything, getting good at this game made me better at KOF and SF
Holding a button to prevent specials is not a bug, it's a feature used for combos. KOF 2002 has it as well
Sorry Hugo, you're too close to grab your opponent
After playing through with Sagat, the high Fireball thing seems intentional? I assumed that's why he has a high and low variant of the super fireball. As for getting too close, I got that issue with a LOT of characters. Athena, Akuma, even Terry.... His fireball starts where his fists are, it seems, so he can reach past a LOT of characters with that super fireball (both high and low) if they get close right before the startup (or using a teleport. That SamSho girl whose name I forget was really good at doing that to me)
A. That samsho girl is Shiki, from the Hyper neogeo 64 entries
B. Guess it doesn't pay to be super tall and long-armed, eh Sagat?
I heard that the people from SNK wanted to release a patch that fixed all the bugs from this game but that the higher-ups said forget that just release it and something like Video games are a product not art. 🙄
Man this game could have been goated with that patch
yes a balance patch wouldve been great
Where'd you hear this? I'd like to read up on it aswell.
@@TyRave believe it was on the fighters subreddit
The disclaimer when you start game acknowledges the jank and semi-problematic dialogue.
You heard from who ? your cousin’s friend’s son?
The Tiger Cannon is probably not a glitch. It makes sense to crouch avoiding the higher one when there's a low Tiger Cannon is available to cover that range. The other ones are crazy 😂
I've been playing the game for 20 years and never realized the Hugo/Earthquake glitch.
And I bought the game on Steam yesterday and it's still really fun
This is one classic fighter I wouldn’t have mind seeing updated.
yup, they really really need to change that hit and block sound
Was wondering, is it possible to update an older game, that has been re-released? I honestly don't see why not? Would probably be a lot of extra tedious work
@@tactical-funky9565That was one of my favorite parts of the game, reminded me of the old SF2 and early KOF sound fx
@@gm9984 I think so. The purpose of this vid was to see if glitches got fixed after all. I want an overclocked MVC2 that has its missing animation frames back and whatever missing content there was. Take the opportunity to fix now what you couldn’t then.
They need to complete this game and stop playing. It has potential
0:52 "Some characters can just crouch and avoid the fireball."
Twelve in 3rd Strike: What a bunch of wannabes...
meanwhile Len in Melty Blood:
I think the hitbox problem for Sagat super applies to many more characters, I would say it just doesn't work if they are at point-blank
Yeah, made me think of like twelve in third strike. When he crouch walks his upper body disappears.
That's what I was gonna say. Plus, seems legit since they're standing face to face and sagats arms are fully extended. Jus gotta thro it a bit further back
Yeah... since IT'S the (emulated) Neo Geo MVS/AES release... not amusing. I can't remember if those issues also happened to appear on the Ps2 and Xbox ports back in the day.
Edit: I forgot to mention this but... dang, that's an OP issue for that match-up for Earthquake as pretty much if Hugo is ready to do the command grab special to interrupt that DM, Earthquake is history.
Ahí te equivocas amigo, la versión que portearon es la de ps2 porque la versión de árcade no tiene sprites de transformación para athena y red arremer
So Hugo has a Touch of Death in this game. Did not know that.
A literal one, no less.
@@heardofrvb Now we know what to watch out for.
I also noticed that kyo's double weak kick (in this case, kusanagi in 2002) only takes 1 hit on goenitz
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That last one makes Hugo vs. Earthquake a 10-0 matchup.
Nah it would still be in Earthquake's favor, it's not like they are forced to do that super anyway, it's not used that much.
@@marufranco5281 But basically if you use meter you are going to die.
@@KazeShikamaru Earthquake got other 2 supers, that one you never use it against Hugo because its meant to punish projectiles and Hugo has none, also whenever you use it you use from far away not in throw range, safe on block by the way.
Xbox should just make the OG versions of these games BackCompat on the current hardware.
Would love that. I want my color edit back.
Which literally does nothing to support capcom or snk to encourage them to make a new game in the future
@@natemakesbeats2138 true but what can an Xbox player do if they don't release a game on Xbox? Not the customer's fault they can't buy it.
7:06 Skyward Fire Remastered by Andeh! You got good taste sir. 👌
SVC was always janky and still is. Sad they can't fix these issues due to a nullifed contract. 😮💨
Really a shame, because the sprites are god tier
Perhaps they didn't have enough budget to pay the staff more time to fix everything. And so, it was shipped in the state it was in.
I know right. It's one of the best looking 2D games in my opinion. Even compared to the Naomi and CPS2 and 3 stuff or Kof 12 and 13
@@AcidGlow SvC was one of the first games of the new SNK (post bankrupt) and the company was in a pretty bad shape. It was a new beginning and many good devs were lost too. KOF 03, released in the same year, also has very rough gameplay.
Basically SNK was not prepared to handle an important project like SvC. Maybe the company had no choice but to take on it immediately as they restarted... i don't know, i have no idea about the behind the scene details. Anyways the fact is that it would have turned out much better if it was delayed 1-2 years. Like by the time of KOF 11 the devs were finally starting to get things together.
These comments are super weird. And I am laughing my a*s off at people talking about balance when 99% percent of these people won’t ever be good enough for character balance to even matter. Not to mention most balanced modern fighting games won’t still be getting played 20 years later liked this game is. So, if this game is bad, what does that say about modern games? I love this game, and there is a reason why people kept playing it.
I wonder if any of these people know about fightcade and use it. Very few people have actually been playing the game online before the steam/console release. Also the steam version has more input lag than the fightcade version. I made a video about that on my channel.
Stop the bootlicking.
@mifaro2255 I was wondering about the fc n steam difference with lag, I'm not surprised
@@AllFlashNoDash Sorry, what was that? I couldn’t hear you with your head shoved up your own ass
that's a strange laugh. why does it sound like you're crying?
There’s one where if Earthquake gets hit by certain moves during his teleport butt slam you get a free combo as he’s locked in place. Particularly Earthquake vs Princess Athena.
Genjuro’s down-forward HP command normal has way less range than it leads you to believe, the tip of your sword and the “wave” effect can go right into your opponent’s hitbox and it still won’t hit.
Cool video. I knew of a few, and a few others can be chalked up to spacing and placement. But most others are just plain broken beyond repair. Awesome info to know! Thank ya
Thanks for watching. I'm sure there are plenty I don't know. These are just some I remember from 2006 when I looked at my old videos about glitches
Not a glitch, but an exploit I'd like to know if it's still present: after blocking an attack vs a CPU, if you keep alternating between high block and low block the AI doesn't know what to do and stands still as long as you keep going
FINALLY, SOMETHING POSITIVE OF HUGO
Lol Hugo used Seismic Toss on fatty!
It was Super Effective! Critical hit!
That Crit Damage is crazy 😆
They should have remaster this like they did the Marvel vs Capcom collections.
I would really like a remaster with balances changes. Like what they did with Super Turbo HD remix
@@AcidGlow truth!!!
This game is a glitch by itself. I watchd many TAS videos of this game and they show how bad this game was made. Capcom vs SNK is like an eye drop if we compare it with this hideous game.
I imagine midnight bliss on Ash Crimson is just him as usual, but he looks down and notices something missing. 😂
6:00 is intended. most old snk games do this. makes confirms that are otherwise too precise or humanly impossible, pretty simple.
When you strech the video to fit hd tvs and turn on scanlines, it only fit the 4:3 área of scream. The part where the black borders should be are not filtered.
Imo they should have done the same thing they did with 98 UM where you get to choose between playing the original version of the game or the UM version.
I still enjoy the game regardless.
the game is definitely jank but preventing specials on button hold is a feature not a bug. character specific meter build and a different system for charging seem more likely to be deliberate if weird design choices too.
Imagine if this game were to get an Ultimate Crossover update. Fixing the balance, editing the sounds to be more impactful, adding medium normals to the capcom characters. I hope if SNK gets another crack at a Capcom crossover game, that they can at least keep a little of the weird atmosphere this game had. I also hope it lives up to the SNK legacy this game tried to on a budget.
There's no opportunity for that for the moment at least. SNK is busy with a lot of different stuff. If any crossover ever gets made it will come from Capcom.
Dhalsim has that "glitch" where the opponent will get hit by like 1 or 2 hits of his lvl 2 super. Like that Sagat fireball super. I started noticing it after the Bison patch it could of appeared after the akuma patch. not sure. Just noticed it started happening after one of them came out.
Which Bison patch is that, by the way?
Hugo and Sagat whiffing both their moves gives me "Yoshi's 3D grab in Melee" vibes.
They should've released Neo Geo Battle Coliseum instead.
Perhaps. But even that game had less people playing it as it went under the radar. I played it for my channel alot before as it was available on xbox 360 and the online is still playable.
@@AcidGlow Well yeah, but it was the better game.
Preferably the ps2 port, not the x360 with uglier art and terrible 3d backgrounds 😢
Yeah that is a much better crossover. It's just that it has nothing to do with the recent deals going between Capcom and SNK. So it had to be SvC. Plus, the previous SvC for the NGPC was released a few years ago (2 years ago iirc)... maybe they had to finish the package with SvC Chaos.
Iv always loved this game happy it’s finally getting recognition.
>half the video is about my main
... well, fuck.
I can't execute easily the rising dragon punch (sho ryu ken) with ryu and dan. But with other characters like akuma and ken the special command is working perfectly. Is a weird glitch (I have the switch version). I pretty sure about this, I am a SF and KOF player since the 90s. I hope they fix this soon with a patch or update, ryu is on of my favorites characters
It's bizarre to me this game got a Steam release with rollback netcode before KOF XIII.
I guess its just a matter of time for KOF XI and Neogeo Battle Colliseum to get the same treatment as this game
SNK at that time was just returning to work (after going broke and close), lost part of the old devs and was completely unprepared to handle a project like SvC. The result is just disappointing to look at, gameplay wise. The best idea would have been to delay it a little bit, but i don't even know if they had that option.
Good job not fixing the issues but it was important for the new disclaimer that the game doesnt align with the value of the company. So it seems.
The dev was not allowed to fix the game. They were told not to change anything
@@AcidGlow oh ok. Thx for the info. So SNK loves the jank....
@@MrFroggster To be totally fair most retro releases are not touched. The rom is bundled and that's it. Sometimes the game gets some features like hitbox viewer (which even emulators on pc are able to do) but not real internal changes like rebalance, bug fixes, etc.
So it's not a SNK problem, it's a kind of normal practice. And Capcom must not be excused just because few of their retro releases have changes like that old 3S Online Edition, which isnt the model of everything else. It's just a sad coincidence that SvC is very janky. But anyways that way of "just releasing" things is simply following the common practice in the industry.
@@carlosaugusto9821 some month ago we got a "new" KoF 13 release on switch with some updates and iirc it was the same price. So it is possible and ofc it is a SNK "problem" if they are the sponsor/publisher.
NO ESCAPE!
World Heroes 2 SNES Credits?! *Deep* cut for music choice there!
It seems like they're currently patching the game, so these issues may be resolved where most necessary. Some of fhem are cool because they are character specific in terms of physics, little characters not being hit the same as medium vs. large characters. The 1 touch combos def need to be removed but overall I am super happy to see this return. The issue with Capcom avoiding Xbox is so disheartening, I really think is based on their stance against gamepass and has nothing to do with the hardware or sdk.
Wait till it won't be totally garbage Broken anymore???
This isnt a capcom made made game. This is the one made by SNK. So clearly there's something going on with MS
@@TonyJenn it's still uses a Capcom license, so I can't say that Capcom wouldn't have to provide clearance. That seems to be the issue.
It doesn't have anything to do with Gamepass. This game was developed for PS4 and Switch. The problem here is that SNK(just like Capcom) doesn't have a team to develop games for Xbox One anymore. This is why this game and Marvel vs Capcom collection doesn't have Xbox Versions.
did code mystics or snk say a patch is incoming?
I’ve been defending this game for years and the redemption & validation is very satisfying.
😁
can special moves not registering when holding a button be used for a benefit? like for iori when you hold a button (like a) to buffer the first qcf when you press c, then release the button and then qcb c again to super?
Song at 3:51? Sounds very SNES World Heroes 2
sine it's in steam, there's a chance that this will have an update patch. but man this should have been here since release, but hey at least it's here. i guess?
The dev was told they were not allowed to change anything. But hopefully we get enough demand to permit some patches. Not just bug fixes but an actual balance patch would be awesome for a game like this
I didn't get home in time to check out the 3 supers at once same character video. Is that going back up?
its up. i had a small update.
This game was a mess. SNK barely had any money to work on this game
😅
The company had just returned to work... this game was one of their first ones together with KOF 03 (another horrible game). They were not prepared to handle a project of this importance, and i find it a totally questionable decision to just take it on anyways, instead of delaying it. Like, in 1 or 1.5 years later SNK changed arcade hardware to the system that runs KOF 11 and Neogeo Battle Coliseum. So making SvC at that time would have been perfect. Besides the benefits of the new hardware, the own devs were doing a better work.
My brian is excessivly surprised about this video
Glorious Jank. Ya love to see it.
Gosh, I missed your videos, Acid.
I followed your matches for like 15 years lol I thought I was the only one who loved this game.
Welcome back!
8:21 To be fair, this line is also in the AES port (which is basically very similar to the original game), same with 8:32
why do not enable hitbox viewer for this ?? :o
CvS2 was such a great game! I was so excited for SVC Chaos, but didn't have high hopes considering SNK was in dire times. It was neat to see capcom characters on the Neo Geo, but the game was clearly not finished. It felt like such a step back for SNK fighters. Lots of jank, mega generic announcer, bugs, imbalance, text disappearing from the screen as soon as the last letter was displayed... It was fun to play around with to see what they were trying to do, but as far as an actual fighting game you are going to play with your friends anywhere near as much as CvS2, well, it totally missed the mark.
Buy the upcoming release to satiate your curiosity with the history of these games, but don't expect a true classic. Hope they release CvS2 so modern audiences can get a taste of what made it so great!
If they release the Capcom vs SNK games I hope they update all the CPS2 sprites to match the new sprites made for those games
It felt especially underwhelming and a big disadvantage for SNK exactly because it came after CvS2. Really tragic because there is some great brand new sprite work in the game... and it had to be abandoned with that not memorable game. More or less the situation of Art of Fighting, that has great looking sprites (even AOF1 for 92, but especially AOF2 and 3 are pretty even today) but that good content is stuck to bad games.
Is it me or do Ryu and Dan's shoryuken still cost a lot? I've always had that problem when I played in the arcades 😥
Been hunting for this game today by calling Walmart and Gamestop stores. Is there a physical release or is it digital only?
Seems like digital for now. It's on PS4, Switch and Steam. But if you want the older versions, those are on xbox original or PS2. Ebay might have copies too
2:39 dude we get it continue 😂
Los juegos de snk al mantener el boton apretado no deja hacer supers... pero sirven demasiado para hacer shortcuts tanto en kof series como en este game ......
I'd really love for someone to cobble together a Neo Geo Street Fighter title out of this....
8:43 I had no idea that this glitch exists and I’m dying bro how do they not catch this?!?
It's even in the arcade version from 2003 and it's still in the Playstation 2 version and in the steam version. They made no changes to the gameplay, according to the dev on twitter.
Is Dan playable in the new rerelease?
yes. set a button in the control options to flip to hidden characters
I have a soft spot for this game, with it being the underdog in the Capcom/SNK crossovers. But even I have to admit SVC is the weakest link of all the collaborations between SNK and Capcom. Played it for a couple of months in the arcade, then dropped it and went back to KOF 2002 and CvS2. KOF 2003 was also a very flawed game, but it was more fun and frantic than SVC, which just feels like it plods along.
I was hoping that with the rerelease, SNK would look into fixing the game's jank and give you the option to toggle that on or off, like what they did with the console release of KOF XI. Because even when you disregard the game's balance (or lack thereof), there's a lot of quirks, glitches and inconsistencies in SVC Chaos, like how Ryu's Shoryu Ken requires precise motioning or you'd get the Hadou Ken instead, but Ken/Violent Ken and Akuma can be motioned more sloppily. Or how Demitri's Exceed requires a delayed button press after the motion to register, or him having a super with very similar inputs as a Raging Demon, but the timing to get it to launch is much tighter.
Agreed with special and super inputs. Demitri's exceed inputs are kinda whack. I would've preferred if they just made supers more simplified like marvel style. Down, Forward 2 punch. So every character is equal to do them when they want and into combos. I don't think any character uses 2p or 2kick other than akuma for teleporting.
Well, are thoese glitches fixed in Steam version or not? 🤔
First 5 seconds.....
@@AcidGlow i don't get it. Is the whole video the Steam version? I thought it was the original. Not a single fix then. I wonder if the PS2 version has all of this because it is quite different in some aspects.
More reasons the SNK vs games glitchfest weren't for me.🙄
5:58 that happens in kof 96 to 2002, maybe is not a bug
You should have done this with the hitboxes turned on for maximum doof
I could not land the hugo throws omg
2:09 Fighter’s Destiny?
1:40 uh oh 😅
I’ve been seeing a lot Fighters Destiny music and references in my timeline lately. Has the game made a bigger impact than I was initially aware of
It's a game I covered on my channel for years. It's one of my favorites on N64
I bet Hollowshy's video on it gave it some much needed attention.
So did they leave it alone or is it altered
The dev said nothing was changed. They were not allowed to modify it
Wow, now I know why people wanted Capcom's CvS instead. Does the PS2 version have any of these fixed?
No it's the same on PS2, I tried today.
@@AcidGlow Well that sucks
01:56 this is also common in marvel vs capcom games.
Jill's machine gun super is whack beacuse of this. Only use it to combo from Flash Kick.
I want to enjoy this game so bad but its difficulty is off putting i love fighters and enjoy getting good at it and im trying now with the switch version but man idk its just not even fun at certain points
As long as my combos still work, I'm good lol
Uhhh 6:33 isnt this just charge partitioning? Charge in snk games have always been more easier than capcom
an explanation would be great if you know 😁
@@AcidGlowyou can store your charge inputs then move freely before releasing it. Just like vega guile can move forward flash kick. I cant explain it in detail but there are videos about it.
Wht if the game is just really technical and you have to actually connect lol and being too close you miss.
@@the.littlest.toaster what other game has 360 grabs missing that close
@@AcidGlow exactly it's one of a kind lol
bring back sf alpha 3 saikyo dojo master characters (humanlike ai cpu)
Color edit mode? Hate some of the default palettes.
nope none in this version
Fighters Destiny music ❤
Damn it's broken 😂😂😂 I bought it anyway I like it... At least it has a put infinite super bar in the options if it gets too hard... Even at level 2 😂😂😂 Goenitz I hate you! 😂😂
That over pixelation on modern setups 🤮
The inputs are ass in this game I can never get dp inputs when I want it’s so janky. Can’t wake up super you will always get beat out by normals why am I getting hit out of my super? Supers are supposed to be invincible on wakeup and alot of moves just straight up whiff of you’re too close it’s so stupid. I play this game anyway cause I liked it as a kid but this game is ass they need to fix alot of issues with the hurtboxes.
Features!
Just downloaded it today and it DEFINITELY needs a patch BAD and i have for the PS5
Maybe they can do a patch, hopefully
@drakonian9196 the dev that ported the game did say first "we were not allowed to change the game". But recently the Said they are aware of online connection issue. I think they might only patch connection issues. But it sure would be great to have a balance /bug patch. Or at least to flip between the default/ balanced version.
@@AcidGlow Agreed, here's hoping they see this
How do u get violent ken
In the control options menu, you can set a button to select "hidden characters". Set that button to any key then hold it over the characters to flip to the hidden characters.
@@AcidGlow thank you sir
@@SageModemac if you join someone's game online, the host has the option to not allow hidden characters. So if they dont show up online, that's why 🙂
@@AcidGlowThey can also choose to ban specific characters from play as well.
Brain Griffin!
😁
0:50 right time ? What about I crouch even before and get no hits at all kid !
I already mentioned that if you watch the video, kid
This game really needed an overhaul, not just balance updates: better backgrounds and colors, music, punchier sound effects, and better game speed. Hell maybe fix some of the mistranslated lines.
Exactly. I don’t mind it mostly because of nostalgia reasons but honestly, it’s not that good a game, especially compared to Capcom’s output of the time. It feels like super half assed in a lot of ways.
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 Its not as good as Capcom's outings, but its still a fun game overall. That being said this would've been a golden opportunity to fix a great deal of the game's issues.
This game is broken af....why the hell didn't they patch up all the things that don't work ...fix it so we can have proper endings for att characters....they just ported it directly ...didn't even care that when it was on the Xbox....one of the worst fighters then....and they decided to screw with their customers and fan base? Why
I understand the "cultural significance" of re-releasing this game in 2024 but I remember everyone and they mama hating on this game in the 00s and its still the same dogshit game! I don't understand the fake hype for this unpolished MESS of a game
This game has some of the ugliest sprites I've seen for characters like sagat, guile, dhalsim and even bison
😅 I guess it all depends on what you like or dislike
Yeah I actually like the SNK riff on the Capcom characters. To each their own
Sure is a snk game
This game is not welly designed.
This game is so ass lmfao. I’m buying it anyways.