you guys are missing it. they both “won” bakugo always wins no matter how much trouble he’s in. midoriya always saves everyone with a smile. bakugo wins the fight, but midoriya wins emotionally, “saving” bakugo. not that bakugos victory wasnt earned he totally clapped him. and i like that more than a fake out like aizawa stopping them or it being a draw. gotta let bakugo have his strengths. midoriyas grown a lot, making the fight super close, and bakugo has too, actually opening up to midoriya and all might
hooked on a theevan yeahhhh no. They both were close. Even though Bakugo had his quirk longer than Deku, he almost lost. Deku just isn’t experienced enough.
All Might made perfectly clear the distinction between Bakugo and Midoriya. The two of them are opposite sides of the same coin. Both though want to be heroes like All Might. Working together, they could balance out each other’s weaknesses
Has anyone else noticed that the black line dividing Bakugo and Midoriya reflects their relationship? For instance when they were children in the intro the line is calm with a few blips--when they're teens it's more chaotic, and when they're fighting it goes crazy. Then, after the main event of the most recent episode it's completely still and calm.
@@andydanieliraheta34 ua-cam.com/video/yu0HjPzFYnY/v-deo.html 0:47 and on, then in their fight when they finally start getting along it's completely still
Deku: *Symbol of Hope* Kacchan: *Symbol of Victory* When there is hope, and when victory rises about failure, what do we get? *Peace*. There wouldn’t be a no.1 hero, but there would be a no.1 duo. When the two work together, they can defeat and outsmart any problem/villain they encounter and together rise as the Symbols of Peace. *also wouldn’t it be cute is Bakugou uses Kacchan as his hero name like how Midoriya uses Deku-* *they would be using the nickname they gave each other *cri**
Bakugo won, but barely. It was a very balanced point and the big take away was exactly what you suggested: they are foils and must learn from each other. Save to win and win to save. I’d love to see you cover that in a part 2.
You should realize that Deku didn't went all out with his shoot style when fighting Bakugo. Because he was going though emotional problems because the fall of All might😳
King Namor 777 you know the same could be said with kachan he didn’t use his AP shot or anything of his huge explosions so you can’t really use the “Deku held back” thing
@@nikhill2367 well if Bakugo use huge explosive on Deku. He could have killed him easily. You have to understand that this was just a simple fight that going little too far for the pro-hero's mind set.
I wouldn't say Jumpy Boy was going all out either, I would say he went even further than all out. Don't forget Deku fought at 8%, not 5% he pretty much had an upgrade to fight Explody Boy. In case you try to argue that he only used 8% and not 100% I will use your argument that you used against Nick Dick, this was just a simple fight, and neither Dripping Pussy and Compensating for a Little Dick were trying to kill or severely injure each other.
You’re totally right about the S1 Midoryia vs Bakugo fight being underrated. Watching a clip of it on UA-cam was what convinced me to watch the show in the first place.
My first run through Season 1 of the show, I loved that first fight. Their rivalry was building it up and it was so satisfying when it finally happened. The more I watch and examine this show, the more its quickly becoming one of my all time favorites.
I made this response on trip-l's video, but was worth posting here as well: I think a lot of people don't take into account what Bakugo envies about Deku and vice versa. The thing they envy about each other is the other's mindset in combat. Bakugo has a warrior's mindset. He thrives on his killer instincts and singular aim for victory through sheer destructive means. Izuka admires this about him. He knows he doesn't have that same level of instinct and when he thinks of victory, he thinks of Bakugo. Which is why he gets to mad at Bakugo when his mind drifts from victory during the fight against All Might. Deku also gets mad when Bakugo doesn't adhere to the image he has of him. On the flip side of that coin though, Deku has a hero's mindset. He thrives on his sharp analytical mind and is focused on absolute rescue of an individual, even if that is through self-destructive means. Bakugo both hates and envies Deku for this mindset. This is further exasperated by the way that Bakugo is constantly losing to Deku in the ideological battle. From their first fight, where Deku punches the roof off a building to pass the test, to Bakugo's inability to get Todoroki to go full out on him, and especially to Deku's performance during the provisional hero exam. Deku is constantly upstaging Bakugo's warrior mindset with his hero's mindset. On the flip side of that though, Bakugo is always winning in the ways that Deku can not. Because Deku still saw his first fight against Bakugo as a loss, Deku is still dissapointed that he couldn't even face off against Bakugo in the sports festival, Deku's analytical mind is always being shown to be inferior to Bakugo's instinctual mind. They both desperately want to compete and beat the other, and they both feel as if they are fundamentally inferior to the other. All Might sees this more than anyone, and acknowledges that together they could make up for what the other lacks. Deku, who desperately puts himself in harm's way to save people not just from physical harm, but from the darkness of their own minds and Bakugo who can win a fight through any means necessary. These characters are anti-thesis of each other in the story of what makes a hero a hero. Their greatest failures in the story are exactly where the other would've succeeded. So I agree with your final argument and its highly possible that the way the story is heading towards is Bakugo and Izuka becoming a team. All Might himself was a perfect balance of these two ideologies. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it'll take both of them to equal him. I think Deku is actually more heroic in his mindset than All Might and Bakugo is more of a warrior than All Might. By themselves, they cant match up to his symbolism. Together they can surpass him.
Gonna have to say no to that. It's not a hero mindset. It's altruism. Bakugo doesn't keep losing to Deku in the ideological battle. Deku's ideal are just as flawed as Bakugo's. We see this from the beginning of the series. -All Might recognised Deku for his altruism and Bakugo for his strength. -In the entrance exam, Bakugo has the most villain points but zero rescue points while Midoriya had the most rescue points and zero villain points - In their first fight, Bakugo beats Deku but Deku won the match - Deku is able to save Todoroki so he could use his flames but loses the fight and Bakugo wins but wasn't able to make Todoroki use his flames -In the final exam, Bakugo kept fighting All Might never giving up so Deku could pass for them both but Deku saves Bakugo so they could pass through the gate together. -Bakugo got passed the first round of the license exam without having any of his targets get hit while Deku got his target hit. In the second round, Deku passed but Bakugo failed. Both of their ideals are self-destructive. All Might showed them the path (that they need each other) that they need to become the greatest heroes.
@@kez1z both of u are right im pretty sure. bakugo is right in the body as he was granted with a powerful quirk, but his mind has to suffer for it since everything he idealized started to fall apart until he reached his breaking point, his superiority/inferiority complex has broken into a cry for help, and that helping hand is dekus key strength om the flip side, deku is right in the mind because knows what hes fighting for, even if his body has to suffer for it, hes still satisfied with his choices. dekus savior complex however causes him to be highly self-sacrifical, and this complex can only be fixed with an intense strength and guts to back it up, and that winner mentality is bakugos key strength even though deku embodies the ideal morals of the story, him and bakugo are still flawed, and have a complex relationship because of it. the boy who cant resist helping others vs the boy who resists help at all costs. an ideal foil
Me- *watches video already 100% understanding their relationship and Bakugo’s superiority complex, just cuz I love hearing ab their awesome rivalry. Also reading the manga knows what happens next*
I always wonder what would happen to Todoroki , if Izuku hadn't talked to him during the sports festival arc. Would he lose sight of being a hero in spite of his father? Would he completely lose control of his fire quirk? Whould there be a point when during an emergency his (unused) quirk would backfire and seriously injure him? Izuku definitely changed Shouto's life.
Bakugou is a very complex character who has both superiority and inferiority issue. His superiority came from all the praise he got, and his inferiority came from his strict mother, and Midoriya is the ultimate insurance that no matter what happens, he can always be better than someone, that's why he's intimidated by his improvement.
Where do you get that his mother was strict? If anything, she recognizes that the bar wasn't set high enough for Bakugo, that he ended up like this because he got too much praise for shallow stuff which caused his idea that people are either born for success or not. That would make her, if anything, way too lenient when Bakugo was young.
@@Ms10000123 I think he means how his mother is mean and has a similar personality to him and how he talks about how he was raised as a kid shows that she is very similar to him and shows partly why he turned out like that
+Lucian That is not what tang roro said. Also, she just seems to reflect Bakugo's behavior rather than it being her own. Surely she is outspoken and his sense of responsibility seems to come from her, but his idea of people being born for success or failure doesn't seem to stem from her. That came from his school, the teachers, and seeing the likes of Deku fail in every regard. I just don't see how that relates to his mother other than her not being more strict when the problems just started to surface, the opposite of what tang roro said.
@@Ms10000123 he says in one chapter something a long the lines of "thats the way I was raised" and he was saying something about hitting kids I think? Idk it was a while ago in the manga and should be coming up in the anime but yeah that just shows his mother wasn't the nicest to him so he probably has issues with that.
Bakugo's ideal isn't "power is everything", but "people stand in a fixed hierarchy of success from the moment when they are born". It is already there right from the early episodes before UA. His concept of heroism, which does boil down to "beating up the opponent is everything" is something develops over time and where his growth is found. His doubts however come from the hierarchy being challenged, which gives him need to reestablish it. That was what the conflict between him and Deku is based on. The tournament should have served that purpose in relation to Todoroki after the trial battle, but it failed to do so. And now this fights needs to do that after his kidnapping and him learning about the nature of Midoriya's ability.
Ms10000123 I don’t really see Bakugo’s ideal is that of an entitlement to succeed by virtue of being naturally better. If that were the case, Bakugo wouldn’t be as hard working as he is. What I glean from him is that his ideal is that heroes always win no matter what. His obsession about winning pushes him to work harder than everyone else. What cracked his ego is that he couldn’t reconcile not winning all the time despite giving his best. Hence the juxtaposition of his admiration and Deku’s admiration towards all might, and Bakugo’s doubt whether his obsession with winning (his way of admiring all might,) is wrong.
I never said it was an entitlement, you're just assuming. His view is that it is just the natural order of things, something that is inevitable. Nothing about that says no hard work is needed, but that hard work is part of it. Someone who doesn't have the capacity to work hard can just be considered a failure in such a view.
@@Ms10000123 Even if everyone works hard as possible, some get ahead from sheer potential. Bakugo potentially growing faster than Iida, for hypothetical example. Iida would, in this case, have to work harder than Bakugo to surpass him, which can only happen if Bakugo doesn't work as hard as possible.
Bakugo's goal was always "win". Midoriya's goal was always "save". During their last fight, Midoriya talks about how for once, his urge to beat Bakugo was stronger than the urge to save him, and Bakugo struggles with the notion of having to be saved, and with his own helplessness in face of the fall of his hero. A hero who won the fight, but ultimately still lost. Because of him. In the end, All might tells them the lesson that would make them truly great rivals and comrades. "Win to save people, and save people to win". Neither of their initial goals wil be enough without the other. You can't save people without winning, but if you didn't save the people you're protecting you already lost. And the changes in Bakugo in the manga after this are amazing to watch, and truly make me love him.
Excellent video, man. I do love Bakugou and Midoriya's relationship as I see it as a very Yin and Yang relationship. What one has, the other lacks. Midoriya as you displayed, lacked the drive and pride to believe he could prevail/ win. While it is great that he wishes to save everyone and be kind, having the belief/ drive to get what you want isn't a bad thing. Heck, I argue it is beneficial because to others seeing that tenacity can inspire those to do the same. And Midoriya's best quality to me is his ability to inspire others through his actions. Bakugou clearly has the drive/ pride to become a hero but lacked the willingness to trust others. He wanted to rely on his own power. Ironically enough because he saw All Might doing so. But as we saw even as early as the Sports Festival arc, Bakugou clearly was starting to change. He was becoming more attentive and his relationship with Kirishima, while built on mutual respect for his drive/ Quirk became something more. Culminating into an amazing moment shown with Kirishima. And to the incredible fight we had with Midoriya. Overall, it is one the reasons why I love this series and it is in my top ten.
Neil but can we really say he doesn’t have drive considering his muscular fight? Idk midoriya has drive in my opinion but I think he’s missing something else
Midoriya has the drive but I think OP is right with the Pride. Midoriya doesn't have the pride and self worth to confidently assert himself and will underplay himself.
I guess you are not a manga reader. I thinky ou'll like what happens with Bakugo and Midorya's interactions later on. It continues to expertly display the wonderful storytelling going on in this series :) Bakugo deserves more credit than he is given for all the development his character has gone through. Excellent analysis!
pretty sure, he means izuku passed because of dumb luck, as he didn't know he would get rescue points, and he would be a red stain on the ground if uraraka didn't use 0 gravity on him to break the fall
Bakugo just needs more sarcasm in his life. I'm very blunt and straightforward, sometimes even standoffish. I like his type of character and that even goes for people like him. They're very honest.
I love Deku character and personality. He was bully and pick on because he was once quirk-less and weak. I and many others feel he his pain because we were treated that way in past/now. Then we our main character try to rise up to make his dream come true dispest all his flaws and weaknesses. He is willing to try his best and work hard to become number 1 hero.
I love that they specifically had Bakugo's internship focused solely on PR. It makes Bakugo's failure at the licensing exam explicitly his fault, since he refused to take it seriously enough to learn. Gotta be a sobering moment for him.
In a sense, midoriya reminds me a lot of allmight and bakugo a lot of endeavor. Bakugo seems to be the type to do anything he can, crossing lines others would never dare to cross, just to be number one, just like endeavor. Midoriya is willing to do reckless things just to help others around him, just like allmight. Back on the morning of the USJ fight allmight fought a bunch of villains, saving some people at the cost of not being able to teach and decreasing his time that he could stay in hero form, just to save a few people who could’ve been saved by other heroes. The difference between allmight and endeavor and midoriya and bakugo is that midoriya and bakugo know each other from their past and are forced to learn from each other from the school and fix their conflicts. This is a good thing which will hopefully give them both a brighter future where midoriya doesn’t injure himself badly and bakugo doesn’t go too far just to surpass Deku.
Love that in the rescue Bakugou arc the rescuers then ask Bakugou to give them a boost so they can escape. He could have just saved himself but I guess PIS.
Hm, good video, talking about why Deku and Bakugo are great foils, but a minor recommendation, if your willing to do something like this again, I'd be interested in you talking and going more in depth of why Midoryia and Shigaraki are great nemesis's, and maybe another character video focusing on Dabi would be cool too
Can we please stop saying that Deku barely passed the entrance exam? There's 2 hero classes of 20 students each. 4 of those spots were taken by recommendation students leaving 36 spots. Yes, Deku only got in on a hidden score, he still impressed the teachers enough to make it into the top 10 ranking for the entrance exam.
Technically, he did barely pass. Only in the last phase of the exam (the Zero Pointer) was he able to show something, despite not knowing that it would earn him points. It wasn't a fluke (no hero school would turn down a heroic character), but it definitely counts as barely passing.
I know, right? He was placed 7th among the people who were accepted through the test. it's 7th out of 36. That's a great score, even if he got it only through the rescue points.
Yes...he got in through a hidden score which no one knew existed, capitalising on a situation which existed because of dumb luck...he barely passed plain and simple
@@BlueRiser about the fact how show presents bakugos strengh but in fact he considers himself weak and even with his immense strengh mentally hes very weak and vulnerable in contrasts deku is presented weaker but he thinks of himself strong(ofc i know he realizes he has a lot of room to imprive and get stronger) and he who was born without a quirk has immense mental strengh
their relationship looks like All Might x Endeavor since Emdeavor doesn't seem to understand why All Might is more respected and loved even thought he lost the Number One Hero title
Bakugo is a perfect foil, but I can't really call him a good rival. There's a certain few things you need to really achieve a good rivalry, but these two seem to have more of a foil type writing focus. Rivals and foils aren't always the same. Good video, though. I've been really trying to get some writing pointers!
Have you watched the new episode? What are your thoughts on it? :) Personally I thought it was super powerful, the voice acting, the animation, but also the end result: Bakugou’s and Midoriya’s relationship. They’re still rivals/foils, but now the dynamic is much more healthier. They use each other as motivation to one up each other and be better then they thought they could be. 💚💛
Why did you make this analysis later? The last episode is an important step of development for both, and discusses the themes of this analysis itself deeply. This discussoin here could have majorly benefitted if just one episode more would have been incorporated.
Anyone else think the fight was bs?? A punch at 5% was able to send hero killer stain flying but a kick at 8% and a punch at 5% doesn't fuck up bakugo well that just seems like bs to me to make them seem like their on the same playing field
5% never sent Stain flying. It didn't do shit. Plus, Bakugo is extremely durable due to the recoil of his quirk since All Might actually sent Bakugo flying to the top of a building, crashing through it and Bakugo just bounces back like it was nothing. Nothing Deku has done so far with the power he can control, can do what All Might's one knee to the face did to Bakugo. Deku hasn't sent anyone flying with his power. You're overestimating Deku's power and underestimating Bakugo by a ridiculous amount. Stop being salty
@@kez1zi dont think he’s overestimating deku is strong abut was still working on control. 5 or 8 percent wasnt enough He didnt fight bakugo the same way he fought muscular where he used most of his percent.
I am up to date with the manga so this is a spoiler for the end of this fight. Bakugo gets a clier victory over Midori but the two of them get a lot of respect for one and other after
you guys are missing it. they both “won” bakugo always wins no matter how much trouble he’s in. midoriya always saves everyone with a smile. bakugo wins the fight, but midoriya wins emotionally, “saving” bakugo. not that bakugos victory wasnt earned he totally clapped him. and i like that more than a fake out like aizawa stopping them or it being a draw. gotta let bakugo have his strengths. midoriyas grown a lot, making the fight super close, and bakugo has too, actually opening up to midoriya and all might
bakugo didnt totally clap him did you even see the episode it was almost a win for deku
I mean, deku wasn’t really going all out, plus he didn’t even clap him , midoriya nearly won lmao
hooked on a theevan yeahhhh no.
They both were close. Even though Bakugo had his quirk longer than Deku, he almost lost. Deku just isn’t experienced enough.
@@expressience bakugo DESTROYED deku lol wtf
norwa not really. Deku could put up a fight
All Might made perfectly clear the distinction between Bakugo and Midoriya. The two of them are opposite sides of the same coin. Both though want to be heroes like All Might. Working together, they could balance out each other’s weaknesses
It's gonna be one of the most satisfying moments in anime history when Midoriya and Bakugo team up against a major villain someday.
as many other parts of the last episode I loved to finally hear "you have to learn to save to win and to win to save"
Definitely think they’re gonna end up being a team in the future.
I can see Izuku passing on One For All to Bakugo’s child in the future when he retires
CJ Johnson probably not though, the child would have to prove themselves. Just because it's bakugou's child doesn't mean they deserve the quirk
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Has anyone else noticed that the black line dividing Bakugo and Midoriya reflects their relationship? For instance when they were children in the intro the line is calm with a few blips--when they're teens it's more chaotic, and when they're fighting it goes crazy. Then, after the main event of the most recent episode it's completely still and calm.
Kitkat915e Yeah, I noticed that too. I thought it was a nice touch that they added to emphasise their relationship.
The calm before the storm...
I dont understand. What black line? Please tell me.
@@andydanieliraheta34 ua-cam.com/video/yu0HjPzFYnY/v-deo.html 0:47 and on, then in their fight when they finally start getting along it's completely still
Deku: *Symbol of Hope*
Kacchan: *Symbol of Victory*
When there is hope, and when victory rises about failure, what do we get? *Peace*.
There wouldn’t be a no.1 hero, but there would be a no.1 duo. When the two work together, they can defeat and outsmart any problem/villain they encounter and together rise as the Symbols of Peace.
*also wouldn’t it be cute is Bakugou uses Kacchan as his hero name like how Midoriya uses Deku-*
*they would be using the nickname they gave each other *cri**
*The basis for all Bakudeku shippers*
I want this "wonderduo" to be canon
smart!!
My heart can take it !!!!! You wrote something so true and cuuute and ahhhhh I can´t It´s too cute
@@user-qe7pc4mk6l I think it is actually canon
Bakugo won, but barely. It was a very balanced point and the big take away was exactly what you suggested: they are foils and must learn from each other. Save to win and win to save. I’d love to see you cover that in a part 2.
You should realize that Deku didn't went all out with his shoot style when fighting Bakugo. Because he was going though emotional problems because the fall of All might😳
King Namor 777 you know the same could be said with kachan he didn’t use his AP shot or anything of his huge explosions so you can’t really use the “Deku held back” thing
@@nikhill2367 well if Bakugo use huge explosive on Deku. He could have killed him easily. You have to understand that this was just a simple fight that going little too far for the pro-hero's mind set.
@@nikhill2367 Basically Bakugo only wanted to fight Izuku. Not kill him with a AP shot which could kill or miss because of Izuku speed.
I wouldn't say Jumpy Boy was going all out either, I would say he went even further than all out. Don't forget Deku fought at 8%, not 5% he pretty much had an upgrade to fight Explody Boy.
In case you try to argue that he only used 8% and not 100% I will use your argument that you used against Nick Dick, this was just a simple fight, and neither Dripping Pussy and Compensating for a Little Dick were trying to kill or severely injure each other.
You’re totally right about the S1 Midoryia vs Bakugo fight being underrated. Watching a clip of it on UA-cam was what convinced me to watch the show in the first place.
My first run through Season 1 of the show, I loved that first fight. Their rivalry was building it up and it was so satisfying when it finally happened. The more I watch and examine this show, the more its quickly becoming one of my all time favorites.
I made this response on trip-l's video, but was worth posting here as well:
I think a lot of people don't take into account what Bakugo envies about Deku and vice versa.
The thing they envy about each other is the other's mindset in combat. Bakugo has a warrior's mindset. He thrives on his killer instincts and singular aim for victory through sheer destructive means. Izuka admires this about him. He knows he doesn't have that same level of instinct and when he thinks of victory, he thinks of Bakugo. Which is why he gets to mad at Bakugo when his mind drifts from victory during the fight against All Might. Deku also gets mad when Bakugo doesn't adhere to the image he has of him. On the flip side of that coin though, Deku has a hero's mindset. He thrives on his sharp analytical mind and is focused on absolute rescue of an individual, even if that is through self-destructive means. Bakugo both hates and envies Deku for this mindset. This is further exasperated by the way that Bakugo is constantly losing to Deku in the ideological battle. From their first fight, where Deku punches the roof off a building to pass the test, to Bakugo's inability to get Todoroki to go full out on him, and especially to Deku's performance during the provisional hero exam. Deku is constantly upstaging Bakugo's warrior mindset with his hero's mindset. On the flip side of that though, Bakugo is always winning in the ways that Deku can not. Because Deku still saw his first fight against Bakugo as a loss, Deku is still dissapointed that he couldn't even face off against Bakugo in the sports festival, Deku's analytical mind is always being shown to be inferior to Bakugo's instinctual mind.
They both desperately want to compete and beat the other, and they both feel as if they are fundamentally inferior to the other. All Might sees this more than anyone, and acknowledges that together they could make up for what the other lacks. Deku, who desperately puts himself in harm's way to save people not just from physical harm, but from the darkness of their own minds and Bakugo who can win a fight through any means necessary. These characters are anti-thesis of each other in the story of what makes a hero a hero. Their greatest failures in the story are exactly where the other would've succeeded. So I agree with your final argument and its highly possible that the way the story is heading towards is Bakugo and Izuka becoming a team. All Might himself was a perfect balance of these two ideologies. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it'll take both of them to equal him. I think Deku is actually more heroic in his mindset than All Might and Bakugo is more of a warrior than All Might. By themselves, they cant match up to his symbolism. Together they can surpass him.
Gonna have to say no to that. It's not a hero mindset. It's altruism. Bakugo doesn't keep losing to Deku in the ideological battle. Deku's ideal are just as flawed as Bakugo's.
We see this from the beginning of the series.
-All Might recognised Deku for his altruism and Bakugo for his strength.
-In the entrance exam, Bakugo has the most villain points but zero rescue points while Midoriya had the most rescue points and zero villain points
- In their first fight, Bakugo beats Deku but Deku won the match
- Deku is able to save Todoroki so he could use his flames but loses the fight and Bakugo wins but wasn't able to make Todoroki use his flames
-In the final exam, Bakugo kept fighting All Might never giving up so Deku could pass for them both but Deku saves Bakugo so they could pass through the gate together.
-Bakugo got passed the first round of the license exam without having any of his targets get hit while Deku got his target hit. In the second round, Deku passed but Bakugo failed.
Both of their ideals are self-destructive. All Might showed them the path (that they need each other) that they need to become the greatest heroes.
wow
i loved reading this.
@@kez1z both of u are right im pretty sure.
bakugo is right in the body as he was granted with a powerful quirk, but his mind has to suffer for it since everything he idealized started to fall apart until he reached his breaking point, his superiority/inferiority complex has broken into a cry for help, and that helping hand is dekus key strength
om the flip side, deku is right in the mind because knows what hes fighting for, even if his body has to suffer for it, hes still satisfied with his choices. dekus savior complex however causes him to be highly self-sacrifical, and this complex can only be fixed with an intense strength and guts to back it up, and that winner mentality is bakugos key strength
even though deku embodies the ideal morals of the story, him and bakugo are still flawed, and have a complex relationship because of it. the boy who cant resist helping others vs the boy who resists help at all costs. an ideal foil
This was so greatly timed as in the anime they just had a fight.... IT WAS SICK!!😃
I just realized you did it on purpose LOL
Ben Tabot where did you watch it on? On Hulu they released the episode right before they fight
I watch it on masterani.me
masterani.me is the bomb
Ben Tabot why not support the anime and watch it legally?
@@littlebigfeind425 bc hulu took forever to get the ep.
Me- *watches video already 100% understanding their relationship and Bakugo’s superiority complex, just cuz I love hearing ab their awesome rivalry. Also reading the manga knows what happens next*
samee but bakugou's superiority complex is actually a sheild from his intense inferiority complex. 😭
I always wonder what would happen to Todoroki , if Izuku hadn't talked to him during the sports festival arc. Would he lose sight of being a hero in spite of his father? Would he completely lose control of his fire quirk? Whould there be a point when during an emergency his (unused) quirk would backfire and seriously injure him?
Izuku definitely changed Shouto's life.
Bakugou is a very complex character who has both superiority and inferiority issue.
His superiority came from all the praise he got, and his inferiority came from his strict mother, and Midoriya is the ultimate insurance that no matter what happens, he can always be better than someone, that's why he's intimidated by his improvement.
Where do you get that his mother was strict? If anything, she recognizes that the bar wasn't set high enough for Bakugo, that he ended up like this because he got too much praise for shallow stuff which caused his idea that people are either born for success or not. That would make her, if anything, way too lenient when Bakugo was young.
@@Ms10000123 I think he means how his mother is mean and has a similar personality to him and how he talks about how he was raised as a kid shows that she is very similar to him and shows partly why he turned out like that
+Lucian That is not what tang roro said. Also, she just seems to reflect Bakugo's behavior rather than it being her own. Surely she is outspoken and his sense of responsibility seems to come from her, but his idea of people being born for success or failure doesn't seem to stem from her. That came from his school, the teachers, and seeing the likes of Deku fail in every regard. I just don't see how that relates to his mother other than her not being more strict when the problems just started to surface, the opposite of what tang roro said.
@@Ms10000123 he says in one chapter something a long the lines of "thats the way I was raised" and he was saying something about hitting kids I think? Idk it was a while ago in the manga and should be coming up in the anime but yeah that just shows his mother wasn't the nicest to him so he probably has issues with that.
You do realize that going to school is part of how one is raised? Besides, that statement is way too generic to say anything by itself.
Bakugo's ideal isn't "power is everything", but "people stand in a fixed hierarchy of success from the moment when they are born". It is already there right from the early episodes before UA. His concept of heroism, which does boil down to "beating up the opponent is everything" is something develops over time and where his growth is found. His doubts however come from the hierarchy being challenged, which gives him need to reestablish it. That was what the conflict between him and Deku is based on. The tournament should have served that purpose in relation to Todoroki after the trial battle, but it failed to do so. And now this fights needs to do that after his kidnapping and him learning about the nature of Midoriya's ability.
He's never said any of what you just said, even in the manga..
He already made his views clear before going to UA and the flashbacks just confirmed that. Pay more attention Ussop.
Ms10000123 I don’t really see Bakugo’s ideal is that of an entitlement to succeed by virtue of being naturally better. If that were the case, Bakugo wouldn’t be as hard working as he is. What I glean from him is that his ideal is that heroes always win no matter what.
His obsession about winning pushes him to work harder than everyone else. What cracked his ego is that he couldn’t reconcile not winning all the time despite giving his best. Hence the juxtaposition of his admiration and Deku’s admiration towards all might, and Bakugo’s doubt whether his obsession with winning (his way of admiring all might,) is wrong.
I never said it was an entitlement, you're just assuming. His view is that it is just the natural order of things, something that is inevitable. Nothing about that says no hard work is needed, but that hard work is part of it. Someone who doesn't have the capacity to work hard can just be considered a failure in such a view.
@@Ms10000123 Even if everyone works hard as possible, some get ahead from sheer potential. Bakugo potentially growing faster than Iida, for hypothetical example. Iida would, in this case, have to work harder than Bakugo to surpass him, which can only happen if Bakugo doesn't work as hard as possible.
Bakugo's goal was always "win". Midoriya's goal was always "save". During their last fight, Midoriya talks about how for once, his urge to beat Bakugo was stronger than the urge to save him, and Bakugo struggles with the notion of having to be saved, and with his own helplessness in face of the fall of his hero. A hero who won the fight, but ultimately still lost. Because of him. In the end, All might tells them the lesson that would make them truly great rivals and comrades. "Win to save people, and save people to win". Neither of their initial goals wil be enough without the other. You can't save people without winning, but if you didn't save the people you're protecting you already lost. And the changes in Bakugo in the manga after this are amazing to watch, and truly make me love him.
Excellent video, man. I do love Bakugou and Midoriya's relationship as I see it as a very Yin and Yang relationship. What one has, the other lacks. Midoriya as you displayed, lacked the drive and pride to believe he could prevail/ win. While it is great that he wishes to save everyone and be kind, having the belief/ drive to get what you want isn't a bad thing. Heck, I argue it is beneficial because to others seeing that tenacity can inspire those to do the same. And Midoriya's best quality to me is his ability to inspire others through his actions. Bakugou clearly has the drive/ pride to become a hero but lacked the willingness to trust others. He wanted to rely on his own power. Ironically enough because he saw All Might doing so.
But as we saw even as early as the Sports Festival arc, Bakugou clearly was starting to change. He was becoming more attentive and his relationship with Kirishima, while built on mutual respect for his drive/ Quirk became something more. Culminating into an amazing moment shown with Kirishima. And to the incredible fight we had with Midoriya. Overall, it is one the reasons why I love this series and it is in my top ten.
My brain...??? less words man
Neil but can we really say he doesn’t have drive considering his muscular fight? Idk midoriya has drive in my opinion but I think he’s missing something else
@@badcharge2524 I see, you don't like detailed explanations...
Midoriya has the drive but I think OP is right with the Pride. Midoriya doesn't have the pride and self worth to confidently assert himself and will underplay himself.
What are the other 9 animes?😄😄
I guess you are not a manga reader. I thinky ou'll like what happens with Bakugo and Midorya's interactions later on. It continues to expertly display the wonderful storytelling going on in this series :)
Bakugo deserves more credit than he is given for all the development his character has gone through. Excellent analysis!
"He barely passed it"
He got 7th out of 36th...
pretty sure, he means izuku passed because of dumb luck, as he didn't know he would get rescue points, and he would be a red stain on the ground if uraraka didn't use 0 gravity on him to break the fall
Protagonist luck
*Me this whole video* I KEEP MY IDEALS
I just got up with My hero season 3 and its so dope to wake up on Saturday mornings and watch a new episode 💯
Samuel Dinkins Exactly 😂
I love how everyone says they love Bakugou and is better than Deku but if he was a real person no one would like him and prefer Deku
Nah I've met people who lean to Bakugou's type of attitude
I have a bipolar friend that even got a girlfriend (in case you don't know, bipolarism is where mood swings go too extreme)
Bakugo just needs more sarcasm in his life. I'm very blunt and straightforward, sometimes even standoffish.
I like his type of character and that even goes for people like him. They're very honest.
We like him because he entertains and holds our interest more.
I love Deku character and personality. He was bully and pick on because he was once quirk-less and weak. I and many others feel he his pain because we were treated that way in past/now. Then we our main character try to rise up to make his dream come true dispest all his flaws and weaknesses. He is willing to try his best and work hard to become number 1 hero.
1:14 *Dammit stop exposing me Matt.*
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I love that they specifically had Bakugo's internship focused solely on PR. It makes Bakugo's failure at the licensing exam explicitly his fault, since he refused to take it seriously enough to learn.
Gotta be a sobering moment for him.
In a sense, midoriya reminds me a lot of allmight and bakugo a lot of endeavor. Bakugo seems to be the type to do anything he can, crossing lines others would never dare to cross, just to be number one, just like endeavor. Midoriya is willing to do reckless things just to help others around him, just like allmight. Back on the morning of the USJ fight allmight fought a bunch of villains, saving some people at the cost of not being able to teach and decreasing his time that he could stay in hero form, just to save a few people who could’ve been saved by other heroes. The difference between allmight and endeavor and midoriya and bakugo is that midoriya and bakugo know each other from their past and are forced to learn from each other from the school and fix their conflicts. This is a good thing which will hopefully give them both a brighter future where midoriya doesn’t injure himself badly and bakugo doesn’t go too far just to surpass Deku.
Midoriya did NOT get in on a fluke even though he saved Uraraka. He got into the top Ten on the practical BECAUSE he saved Uraraka!
I keep laughing whenever you say "fight" and Midoriya's pupils shrink😂💀8:34
this is such a good analysis on their relationship to one another
Love that in the rescue Bakugou arc the rescuers then ask Bakugou to give them a boost so they can escape. He could have just saved himself but I guess PIS.
"The latest arc-"
Bakugo Redemption Arc: *Am I a Joke to You?*
The Characters are amazing no phenomenal
When people find out about the big three:Mirio nejire tamaki?
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Great video!!!!!!!! ………. THEIR FIGHT WAS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10:29 …. Is no one gonna comment on the Katsuki body pillow?
Thanks for the vids! You’re right. They are perfect foils for each other.
"I think there will be no definite winner"
Nah lol Bakugo Kicks Midoriya's ass
Bro did you see today's episode???
Duh
Yee
Matt: *Makes meaning full opinion about Katsuki vs Izuku fight*
Bakugou: *wins*
When they put aside their differences, they would make an amazing team.
After the last episode they became my favorite character foils.
Honestly Bakugo needs to undergo a major psychological exam and some therapy before he will ever be deemed hero material
Hm, good video, talking about why Deku and Bakugo are great foils, but a minor recommendation, if your willing to do something like this again, I'd be interested in you talking and going more in depth of why Midoryia and Shigaraki are great nemesis's, and maybe another character video focusing on Dabi would be cool too
You at the end tho 😂😂 that episode tho, legit started up SO MUCH character development in the manga it’s insane!
well done on thevideo essay..you always put out awesome anime topic breakdowns. Keep doing your thing dude
Quite a lot of hype for today's episode.
After the lastest Episode, I can get behind Katsuki the the Secondary MC #MakeBakugoTheProtagonist
Bakugo is the deuteragonist
I love the fact that at the beggining of the story Kacchan has everything deku has always wanted, and deku is everything kacchan is afraid to be
Hero that saves and hero that wins
Can we please stop saying that Deku barely passed the entrance exam? There's 2 hero classes of 20 students each. 4 of those spots were taken by recommendation students leaving 36 spots. Yes, Deku only got in on a hidden score, he still impressed the teachers enough to make it into the top 10 ranking for the entrance exam.
Technically, he did barely pass. Only in the last phase of the exam (the Zero Pointer) was he able to show something, despite not knowing that it would earn him points. It wasn't a fluke (no hero school would turn down a heroic character), but it definitely counts as barely passing.
Also those hero points would have been nothing had he not passed the written exam which he in his own words said he "barely passed"
I know, right? He was placed 7th among the people who were accepted through the test. it's 7th out of 36. That's a great score, even if he got it only through the rescue points.
Yes...he got in through a hidden score which no one knew existed, capitalising on a situation which existed because of dumb luck...he barely passed plain and simple
Do Bakugo Is more concerned with winning instead of saving people while Deku is more interested in saving people than winning.
i dont think video highleted enough of how deep this contrast goes
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Elaborate, what more should he have said?
@@BlueRiser about the fact how show presents bakugos strengh but in fact he considers himself weak and even with his immense strengh mentally hes very weak and vulnerable in contrasts deku is presented weaker but he thinks of himself strong(ofc i know he realizes he has a lot of room to imprive and get stronger) and he who was born without a quirk has immense mental strengh
also: they're younger versions of all might and endeavor
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their relationship looks like All Might x Endeavor since Emdeavor doesn't seem to understand why All Might is more respected and loved even thought he lost the Number One Hero title
I feel like this guy is gonna pop off when he sees the movie
Love your analysis!
Bakugo is SOOO much deeper then I realized
I love their fights. They are perfectly ballenced
The episode was really good and had some quality sakuga going on but there is a winner
Bakugo is a perfect foil, but I can't really call him a good rival. There's a certain few things you need to really achieve a good rivalry, but these two seem to have more of a foil type writing focus. Rivals and foils aren't always the same.
Good video, though. I've been really trying to get some writing pointers!
I like the part:
"Nice *(?)* to Midoriya"
*save to win, win to save.*
Have you watched the new episode? What are your thoughts on it? :)
Personally I thought it was super powerful, the voice acting, the animation, but also the end result: Bakugou’s and Midoriya’s relationship. They’re still rivals/foils, but now the dynamic is much more healthier. They use each other as motivation to one up each other and be better then they thought they could be. 💚💛
I'm still holding out for a todoroki character study 😭
There is one sort of in the works. It's just kind of hard since he's barely gotten any screentime since the 1st season 2 arc.
My man! You should have enough at least by the time the anime catches up to the manga then.
He had daddy issues...he starts getting over them because of izuku...done.
HA I knew what a foil was before you said it. It’s the thing I put My food in to keep it warm.
I feel like all the people that hate on mha don’t pay attention to the underlying themes and hidden gems. But forget them I love it
bakugou and my phrase: I'm not mean... I just don't give a f**k about anyone else! "
Just binged on the series. I find it neat that there's a 3-way rivalry with these two and Todoroki. Could you do a follow-up about that?
We need a part 2 of this video after the last episode.
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Bakugo and deku r like 2 sides of the same coin...
Very well said. Thank you for the video! I really enjoy these two characters arcs!
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For a weird reason i feel like bakugo katsuki is trying to help deku by pushing him to use full strength and pushing him to try harder
The agonies of parallel creation
Why did you make this analysis later? The last episode is an important step of development for both, and discusses the themes of this analysis itself deeply. This discussoin here could have majorly benefitted if just one episode more would have been incorporated.
keep up the good content manime
I came from the future and they learn from each other and mydoria loose the fight he still needs to perfect One for all ful cowl shoot style
Was a good fight, bakugo best boy
Anyone else think the fight was bs?? A punch at 5% was able to send hero killer stain flying but a kick at 8% and a punch at 5% doesn't fuck up bakugo well that just seems like bs to me to make them seem like their on the same playing field
5% never sent Stain flying. It didn't do shit.
Plus, Bakugo is extremely durable due to the recoil of his quirk since All Might actually sent Bakugo flying to the top of a building, crashing through it and Bakugo just bounces back like it was nothing. Nothing Deku has done so far with the power he can control, can do what All Might's one knee to the face did to Bakugo. Deku hasn't sent anyone flying with his power.
You're overestimating Deku's power and underestimating Bakugo by a ridiculous amount. Stop being salty
@@kez1zi dont think he’s overestimating deku is strong abut was still working on control. 5 or 8 percent wasnt enough
He didnt fight bakugo the same way he fought muscular where he used most of his percent.
I am up to date with the manga so this is a spoiler for the end of this fight. Bakugo gets a clier victory over Midori but the two of them get a lot of respect for one and other after
Great video dude.
i am litteraly watching toradora i wasnt expecting u were gonna say that
1:58 this is the first time i have ever noticed "porno graffitti" lmao
the fight was amazing
Well Games of throne is coming to an end
U shouldve mase this video after watching thr fight, but it was still alright
You are literally the cutest
5:04 wth happened to Deku’s arm? I forgot
1:30 protagonisat 🗿
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Just dub ‘em as Naruto and Sasuke and call it a day. 😏
If you like Character driven dramas you should check out revue starlight this season, seriously it is super good and is super underrated