Range vs Aperture - Should you purchase 24-70 f/2.8 or 24-105mm f/4 Macro? Featuring the LUMIX S5II
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I went for the Sony 20-70 f/4, small, light, and sharp was the theme for my kit this time and with a 42MPx body you can crop to get the 105mm perspective without much issue.
Depends where you go. If I am traveling to any outdoors destination I would select 24-105 f4 for range. If I go to a city I would prefer a 16-35 f4 lenses . The wider angle is perfect for architecture and museum photos
Nikon Z glass is so good these days. I have the Nikon z MC 105mm which is the sharpest that I ever had! I traded the Nikon z24-70 f4 to get the z 24-120mm f4 to get greater versatility that extra reach offers. The z24-70 f2.8 is superb, but at twice the cost of the f4 it wasn't worth the extra for my amateur use case. Yes another really interesting and informed video. Thanks Leigh
edit: I want to get a good travel lens. I have the z24-200 but honestly, it's been used once. I have shorter lenses, and I have the z70-200 which is quite heavy. so there's been no "need" for that 24-200. BUT there's now a z28-400 ! that's on my wish list - a much more useful telezoom for holidays! Take a look !
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. The Lumix S5II is a very capable camera. I own the Lumix 24-70 Pro lens. However, size and weight prevented me from using it. That's why I bought the Sigma 28-70mm F2.8 as a replacement. I prefer a limitation in the range while maintaining a large aperture. Playing pets and children require a short shutter speed and therefore a large aperture opening. Moreover, these topics benefit from subject separation that is associated with a large aperture.
24-105 is super sharp, could not ask better....
This video is so good! I have the 24-105 f4. I bought it because I wanted to use it as a travel lens. It's lighter. And it has more reach. I have primes (35, 50, 85) f1.8 that I can use if I wanted to something for low light. The 24-105 has not disappointed at all!
Thank you! This was a fun one to make. :)
My main lens is the Nikkor Z 24-200mm VR with my Z6ii. It does just about everything. As a consequence, my Z 180-600mm VR doesn't get used all that much...primarily for long-distance wildlife. By the way, Luminar Neo is my mainstay as well.
i recently did a photo story project in the snow at -14c and snowing sideways and also amongst crowds of people. There was no way I could change lens in that condition. I had a 24-105mm on my camera and that was a great lens for the job. It got me the extra reach that was much needed. I am looking forward for the 28-200mm f4-7.1 that everyone was already bemoaning about. Sometimes (most of the time actually) versatility gets you the shot, and that's what matters.
I'm planning to take my Z7 body and the Z 24-120 zoom on one or two night backpack trips because of EVERYTHING, moderate wide angle, short zoom, near macro (0.39X). For my day hiking with my dog where I want to capture each wildflower species I see for the first time this year, and I know the trail well, I take to 50mm f/2.8 macro for its size, weight, and great macro. I loved this video. You live in amazing country.
I'd love to see a video or hear your thoughts on the 24-70 f/2.8 compared to sigma's new mark ii 24-70 f/2.8
I think you might have forgotten to mention that 24-105 is parfocal, which is very helpful for shooting video.
I have them both and use them for different things. My main filming lens is the 24-105 f/4, but for stills the 24-70 f/2.8 is generally a superior lens all around. The difference in build quality and image quality is substantial for high resolution stills. For filming, I usually don't need the extra light (because I'm shooting at slower shutter speeds for filming) and being able to get out to 105mm is helpful.
My favorite range zoom lens is the Tamron 35-150 f2.0-2.8 for the Sony e mount. It is on the heavier side but, it makes very good images. I started with the Sony G24-105 f4, but some times it was to dim and the bokeh wasn't that good, but still a very nice lense. The only thing I miss is some times the zoomrange with the Tamron.
I have a 24-120mm /4/S Z-mount lens as my everyday and work lens. I love street and landscape photography and most of the time this lens produces amazing sharp images. I have had the 24-70mm on previous cameras and loved them except that at some occasions I wished I had the longer focal length
I'm a landscape photographer and I have different mid range zooms that I use depending on the situation. Generally my lens of choice is the Leica Vario Elmarit 24-90 f2.8-4 but when I cannot use a tripod I prefer a faster and lighter Leica 24-70 2.8. When I plan demanding treks and I need to stay as light as possible I use a little Leica TL 18-56 f 3.5-5.6 that is equivalent approx. to a 28-80 in full frame. As you said, different lenses for different uses...
I have a 18-135 on apsc, it has variable aperture and not the greatest in low light but it is perfect for travel, specially coupled with fast primes.
I have a Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8 DSLR lens and I always think about selling it for a 24-120 f/4 VR. But, a third option was suddenly available and I went for it. I got a cheap (but well maintained) 70-200 f/4. Now I always travel with these 2 lenses. The 70-200 is so light it´s no problem to bring it.
Leigh & Raymond, great video as you point out the things someone has to consider if choosing only one of the lenses. Like Leigh, I personally like smaller and lighter, so I would go for the 24-105mm f/4.0. One question regarding the S5II: how is this camera for manual focusing of lenses like AI-s and M-Mount lenses (vs something like the SL2)?
Manual Focusing is easy on the both the SL2 and the S5II - for both, you can turn on Focus Peaking and you can also have the focus area zoom into your subject so you see things more closely. :)
@@LeighAndRaymond Thank you for the insightful information and that the S5II is as good for MF lenses as the SL2. Take care!!
24-105 F4 + 35 prime is my choice.
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I use my 18-105mm f4 Sony lens so much, I bought it its own body. It has a great look for my video shooting. Good luck with selecting a lens -- finding the 'right' one is purely a personal choice. Cheers
For macro it's a bit tough as some lenses don't offer macro capabilities, while others do. But if we set that part aside and just say close up photography (maybe not actual macro) a 24-105 or 24-120 (for Nikon users) may be a good choice, and one thing to keep in mind is that for things like macro, you may not shoot much at 2.8 but depending on the scene may be shooting more like f/4 or above, so my personal stance is to get something like a 24-105 f/4 or 24-120 f/4 as both a close-up (not necessarily macro) lens that doubles up as a good walkaround lens for travel and landscape (since most people will probably shoot landscapes at f/4 or smaller as well). Now if we're talking about more telephoto focal lengths like 70-200 or 100-400+ then smaller apertures may be beneficial so you can really separate the subject from background but for most people, I think the slower mid-range zooms will be enough and are lighter generally (ideal for hiking). I have both of these lenses (although the 24-120 f/4 for NIkon since i shoot NIkon) and each has its own use. If I'm not hiking, I might use the 24-70 2.8 more, but if I'm hiking, I'm almost always taking the 24-120 for its reach and size/weight (being quite a bit lighter and smaller than the 24-70 2.8 and through the shared focal and aperture rang,e it's close enough -- only pixel peeping you can really see the difference in the shared ranges), and I'd almost prefer more focal range over a 1-stop faster lens -- because it means I may NOT need to carry a second lens (or a longer lens at least) whereas if I took the 24-70 (and I did before getting the 24-120) I would almost always pair it with a 70-300, because I wanted a bit more than 70mm in most cases.
Great analysis, I have both and use my 24-105 for video and 24-70 for photography both with my S5IIx. Moving on, I'm just getting anxious for a S1/S1R/S1H replacement. Now the SL3 is out, it's more than due for this release. I feel the S1 series is now long in the tooth and not worth investing in at this point. We really need this new camera. I hope its around the corner. C'Mon LUMIX!
Are you happy with the 24-70?
Yes, its time for the S1(R)(H) Mark II. Panasonic gave Leica the time to firstly release the SL3 and later on Panasonic will release the S1 II. Is to be expected in July 24 latest.
Makes the question a little trickier on the Nikon side, with the added range and image quality of the 24-120 4 (my current choice). But yes I do have some FOMO about not having the 24-70 2.8. I’m considering getting their non-S 28-75 2.8, and keeping both 😎
Yes I have a mid range zoom.
It's a Nikkor 17-55 f/2.8 and yes you guessed it. It's for an APS-C camera (Nikon Z50 with FTZ adapter).
Only the 24-90mm Leica is as good as the S Pro 24-70mm for microcontrast and depth.
But the 24-105mm is nicer for video in my opinion.
does the 24-90 stabilisation work on Lumix bodies
@@mipmipmipmipmip Not in dual-sync-mode. This only works if lens and body is of the same manufacturer.
The 24-105 has its weakness in sharpness at the longer end wide open (F4) - even in the center. I have this lens and I am not that convinced. This weakness gives away a bit of its versatility. If one is looking for best image quality, I would go for the 24-70.
Camera newbie. I have the 24-70 2.8 but keep reaching for the prime lenses because it’s been engraved in me that prime are superior 😂 im sure it’s crispier but i should really reach for my 24-70 so im not lugging around so many lenses! I forget how good it is!
great!
I use Nikon, They recently released a lower cost alternative to their Holy Trinity, a 17-28 f2.8, 28-75 f2.8, and a 75-180 f2.8. These lens are about 40% of the cost of their S Line counterparts. They do NOT have image stabilization. I have the 28-75 and the 75-180. I use them for carry around and travel. They are significantly lighter than the s line. Image quality is great. I use a z9 with ibis, so I am able to do fine without the VR in the lens.
My go to lens is the much maligned Canon 24-105L, the stabiliser cancels out one of the minuses it has compared to the 24-70 f2.8, it's cheaper, the quality loss is imperceptible on virtually any viewer and the extra reach is invaluable on walkabouts.
Wide aperture sounds great...untill you have to drag it around and find out that in your usual photography you don't need it. Then the size and weight makes you use it less.
And suddenly that "slow" glass makes sense.
I have a 24-70 F4. And that is just fine faster and it gets quite more expensive and heavier. Not to mention bigger.
24-70 f/2.8 comes out for event and certain portrait shoots. 24-120 f/4 is glued to one of my cameras otherwise!
My Nikon D800 has a permanent friend in the form of the tameron sp24-70mm f2.8 I watched this video because I recently picked up a S5m2 and it only has an 85mm1.8 which is not my favorite walk around lens
These two mid-range zooms are amazing but we also have the 20-60mm f/3.5-5.6, which we love. Plus, there are so many amazing prime lenses. The Sigma Contemporary primes are some of my favorites!
@@LeighAndRaymond I'm debating on on the 16-28 and 28-70 as a set do you believe these two would serve me well for real estate or would the art line be a better bet
If you always shoot at f/8-f/11 you don't need the heavy & expensive lens. But if you occasionally shoot an open aperture close-range shot with the obligatory fuzzy background then you have to pay. In money and weight.
Have to agree, f4 all the way. If I shoot low light, it's going to be f1.4 or f1.8 prime.
Canon 24-105 f2.8
Some of us are just oddballs, going for primes instead. 😀
I love primes!