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My guess is the reason why it always starts on low is for safely checking pupils. They design their stuff with first responders in mind and it would be bad if you forgot you left your light on at 300+ lumens setting and went to check a patient's pupils. I wish it could tail stand but I'm wondering if they designed that switch to be easily clicked with gloves on. I feel like it would be a good idea to say this on their products' pages.
It could be, some makers have the memory and for most that will be good enough. Some I have used do come on in a high output, not ideal. I'm not sure this is aimed at medical use, I have tried a few and they are usually AAA, and N/W LED's
Great review. All of these new Fenix lights with the copper accents are very good looking lights. I have the older version of the E20 and I do like it. Conventional optics and more of a thrower as you say, so really a matter of choice. I do like the old versions ability to tail stand. It's an oddly consistent aspect of tail switch Fenix lights of recent design to make the switch stand proud of the flanges and thus ensure they cannot tail stand. It seems strangely deliberate, although I cannot think of a logical reason for it. Still, a very nice looking and performing light. Thank you for your dependable and informative reviews!
Yes would be better to be able to stand it up for a small design change, still not a bad beam for this type of light and they do look nice the Fenix torches. Thanks for dropping in appreciate it!
I was working on a cold winter night and realized Fenix probably sacrificed tail standing for ease of use while wearing gloves. It's going to be the more common use scenario so they thought the compromise was worth it.
@@MrBazReviews yes they do! It's a bit unfortunate that one of the batteries leaked and corroded the barrel. However, it still functions well to this day as intended.
Have purchased two of these one has personal custom laser engraving always in my pocket ready for inspecting dark places , another sits in the emergency blackout kit. Happy Adventures.
@@MrBazReviews AA is universal cell the most common readily available battery type in the world. you can't walk in any genral store and ask for precharged 21700 5000 mah they would think you are crazy.
@@Abufast I hope more AA models are made I have said it to some makers, I think they like going for high power models. But AA can still give a decent enough output for many users. As you say the cells are very easy to find
No memory of the last mode used? That's a deal breaker to me. I already have the LD22 V2.0 and it's more suitable for my needs in some few cases when I don't want a 18650 flashlight, for example for travels on bike where I can't easily charge ion-lithum batteries but I can buy new common AA alkalines along the road.
Starts in lowest output, so no memory. I'd prefer a memory being honest, though at least it doesn't come on in full power. There is always something annoying with these, some point which detracts. I gave up searching for the ideal one a while back!
@@MrBazReviews My flashlight keeps cutting high lumen mode sometimes like it’s stuck in low and medium mode is that normal i used rechargeable Duracell AA.
@@MrBazReviews I put in new energizer aa but the problem still persists. Occasionally But it does. Does the company provide replacement for such defects.
Apart from when you've a table , when possibly can tail standing be more useful than maybe a loop to hang it ? Eg from a tent pole or tree branch which I guess is more likely .
It's not about a table, it's any flat surface. So being able to stand it up, can be handy - hence it's a valid point and a simple one to do design wise
The Olight S2A Baton was pretty good power output, 550lm if I remember, but as far as I know it's been discontinued. There are not too many I've looked at that take AA, I did this as a few people asked. It's not the most powerful, but it is probably good enough output for most users. Some take 14500 cells, but they don't last that long. I do keep an eye out but I'm not getting too many requests lately on torches
Hello, thank you for the review, I'm a litle late to this video, never the less this flashlight still available where I live. I have one question (if you happend to see this, or to anyone that may know), Is it posible that the "Runtime" that its shown on the web, the back of the blister-pack and the manual are inverted for the 2x Alkaline and the 2x Ni-MH? I mean does the Alkaline batteries really last that much longer than the Ni-MH? Thank you!!!
@@MrBazReviews I have one mroe question if you are so kind, I got this one two months ago, and I found that the first two settings looks like a warm light beam, while the last two settings (highest lumen ones) seems like cold light beams. Did you notice this too? Also 1 more comment: Battery life is not even close to what the table show (even If I know the files are inverted between alkaline and ni-mh), which sucks (even using very good alkaline batteries). I ended up going back to my Fenix E12 V1 which is not as brighter, but at least battery life is better. Do you think I have a "broken"/not working as intended unit perhaps? Thank you soo much if you can answer.
@@rodrirm I never use Alkaline except in an emergency, the tables are wrong due to the Ni-MH being long lasting (as you expect) The tint does change a bit with power level, this is quite common on many models from various makers, some less obvious but many do shift a bit.
@@MrBazReviews Thank you once again. This is only my second "expensive" flashlight so I don't have much experience with other models or brands!!! Really appreciate your input, I will consider getting my self some NI-MH batteries. Im still amazed by my long lasting E12 V1. Have a great 2023!
I do like the look of this one, I primarily use 18650/21700 torches but do like a couple of AA ones, Especially after trying the EBL AA's and AAA's, thanks for the review, Take care and stay safe 🇮🇪🇬🇧
AA is still useful for many, not too many around v lithium but I think for some it's a good battery format and very common. All good here stay safe too!
Their numbers are here 0:09, so with an eneloop just as a bit more for higher capacity. Oh they got the numbers mixed up too so the higher ones are Ni-MH
@@MrBazReviews they write it was tested on 1900mah nimh. So i assume the 2450 is the same or little bit lower than alkaline. Have you try the real test if it could run as long as the written spec ?
@@timbersync I just told you the numbers were reversed Ni-MH is always longer, their figures are fairly close add more for higher capacity. Sorry but I don't have time to do run time tests on batteries/torches I have to keep working on new content
Someone screwed with the marketing graphics on a few models. The older stuff has the correct numbers to match battery type. I suspect it was a batch job for a bunch of new models and the mistake never got noticed or caught the entire time.
Two major problems with all the reviews I've watched the last couple of days trying to decide on which lights to get: 1) The reviewer doesn't understand camera sensor response to light, and/or doesn't fix the exposure 2) They nearly all fail to go out to VERY dark areas and test the lights. It's pretty darn useless to show an arbitrarily illuminated area that we have no idea of scale/range, illuminated by tons of light pollution from local street lights. Refer to point 1.
Perhaps you should have put that copy/paste comment on a review which deserves it. I can think of quite a few who just whip their phone out, auto everything near useless for beam shots - worse don't even talk about things that are not so great. The camera is fixed exposure and WB, it is done for a reason to give more accurate beam shots. It is also repeatable, across many products, so you can see differences in output and tint etc. So I will ignore the first remark, because you obviously didn't watch the video. The second about light pollution, yes I can go to a very dark woods to take shots. But wait, if the moon is out I'm also getting light pollution. If the times for shooting are limited to only pitch black days/areas, that isn't going to work for any kind of review schedule. It is very likely you WILL be using a torch in areas of light pollution. Perhaps you'd like to try doing your own reviews, and you might have an appreciation of the time/effort it takes.
@@MrBazReviews I did watch the video. Where you are down the side of the building looking towards dustbins and the gate was very useful. You're right about it being a rant. I'm sorry it came across as a rant at you; it was not. I have watched over 100 such review videos the last few days trying to sort paid reviews from honest opinion, and many times the "beam shots" are poorly done. I can read spec sheets all day long, but at the end it doesn't describe what you get out of the torch. Illuminated areas ARE useful, because you can see the relative brightness in such situations, but the problem is without knowing the camera/CCD used it can be hard to figure out the response of the camera/color balance to know what I'm looking at. Your "drop down test" was the best I've seen anywhere. I wish more lights were tested in this way. Just so you know, your video was one that actually persuaded me to order this light. It looks great, and I'm looking forward to receiving it!
@@paradoxicalcat7173 The problem making a video is, my idea of what might be useful to see, might not be for everyone. I've seen people do 45 minute documentary type videos on torches. Frankly, I have no idea why anyone would want to do that, yet if that's what someone likes fire away! All I wanted to do was create to the point videos, showing as much as I could, without getting in to ultra geek type testing. I'm just not into that at all. Also the time it would take would be unreasonable, and ridiculous. I test simple things like charging speed where appropriate. With the beams the distances, again would add to the time significantly, the shed is about 90ft away for reference. I try to show what I can (and the torch up close, some don't even do that very well). I was much more into torches a few years back, I still am interested in them - yet for all the efforts relatively few makers send items in. So these days it's just the odd one now and then. I do try, it might seem a video like this takes no time to make, that's not the case, quite a few hours or shooting and editing. The beams have improved a lot since I first started, it's a learning curve as such.
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Fucken brilliant,no bullshit,straight to the point. Thanks mate,I have one on the way.
I know a few out there pad the videos out beyond sensible, drives me crazy so I do no messing around videos lol
3:10 I like the warm light of the E16!
I prefer it too use the E16 all the time good little torch
My guess is the reason why it always starts on low is for safely checking pupils. They design their stuff with first responders in mind and it would be bad if you forgot you left your light on at 300+ lumens setting and went to check a patient's pupils.
I wish it could tail stand but I'm wondering if they designed that switch to be easily clicked with gloves on. I feel like it would be a good idea to say this on their products' pages.
It could be, some makers have the memory and for most that will be good enough. Some I have used do come on in a high output, not ideal. I'm not sure this is aimed at medical use, I have tried a few and they are usually AAA, and N/W LED's
Great review. All of these new Fenix lights with the copper accents are very good looking lights. I have the older version of the E20 and I do like it. Conventional optics and more of a thrower as you say, so really a matter of choice. I do like the old versions ability to tail stand. It's an oddly consistent aspect of tail switch Fenix lights of recent design to make the switch stand proud of the flanges and thus ensure they cannot tail stand. It seems strangely deliberate, although I cannot think of a logical reason for it. Still, a very nice looking and performing light. Thank you for your dependable and informative reviews!
Yes would be better to be able to stand it up for a small design change, still not a bad beam for this type of light and they do look nice the Fenix torches. Thanks for dropping in appreciate it!
I was working on a cold winter night and realized Fenix probably sacrificed tail standing for ease of use while wearing gloves. It's going to be the more common use scenario so they thought the compromise was worth it.
Thanks for the review! Did the Fenix E20 inscription wear off during use?
No all the markings (and on most products of this type) are laser etched into the metal.
I'm still using my old Fenix L2D Q5 Premium torch I bought back in 2008!
They do last not everyone needs the latest model!
@@MrBazReviews yes they do! It's a bit unfortunate that one of the batteries leaked and corroded the barrel. However, it still functions well to this day as intended.
@@Slinkeh I tend to use the rechargeable cells rare to have a leak issue with those, least the good ones
Have purchased two of these one has personal custom laser engraving always in my pocket ready for inspecting dark places , another sits in the emergency blackout kit. Happy Adventures.
It is quite useful I found it a decent model overall. AA is still popular more makers should make models for this battery
@@MrBazReviews AA is universal cell the most common readily available battery type in the world. you can't walk in any genral store and ask for precharged 21700 5000 mah they would think you are crazy.
@@Abufast I hope more AA models are made I have said it to some makers, I think they like going for high power models. But AA can still give a decent enough output for many users. As you say the cells are very easy to find
No memory of the last mode used? That's a deal breaker to me. I already have the LD22 V2.0 and it's more suitable for my needs in some few cases when I don't want a 18650 flashlight, for example for travels on bike where I can't easily charge ion-lithum batteries but I can buy new common AA alkalines along the road.
Starts in lowest output, so no memory. I'd prefer a memory being honest, though at least it doesn't come on in full power.
There is always something annoying with these, some point which detracts. I gave up searching for the ideal one a while back!
I purchased mine last month and it has a flat tail button and it tail stands okay.
Products vary, or may change. I can only comment on what I have used myself
@@MrBazReviews My flashlight keeps cutting high lumen mode sometimes like it’s stuck in low and medium mode is that normal i used rechargeable Duracell AA.
@@LastOne. Unless the battery is low on charge it's not normal no. But if the cell is partly drained it is
@@MrBazReviews I put in new energizer aa but the problem still persists. Occasionally But it does. Does the company provide replacement for such defects.
@@LastOne. Contact the seller first then the company if no joy. Same for any product with an issue
Apart from when you've a table , when possibly can tail standing be more useful than maybe a loop to hang it ? Eg from a tent pole or tree branch which I guess is more likely .
It's not about a table, it's any flat surface. So being able to stand it up, can be handy - hence it's a valid point and a simple one to do design wise
Nice review man. What’s the highest powered single AA or 2 AA flashlight you’ve used with alkaline batteries?
The Olight S2A Baton was pretty good power output, 550lm if I remember, but as far as I know it's been discontinued. There are not too many I've looked at that take AA, I did this as a few people asked. It's not the most powerful, but it is probably good enough output for most users. Some take 14500 cells, but they don't last that long. I do keep an eye out but I'm not getting too many requests lately on torches
@@MrBazReviews Thank you so much for the reply man, I’ll check that one out.
Armytek 2A 2AA 700l
Powertac valor also use 2 AA battery 800 lumens max
@@adrianjosephguevarra4452 Wow, thank you. That looks pretty impressive👍🏼
Hello When you shake the flashlight do you feel a small noise on the switch?
because in my flashlight it sounds like something is loose.
There is a slight noise, but not much
@@MrBazReviews I guess it would be something normal. Thanks friend for the response.
Hello, thank you for the review, I'm a litle late to this video, never the less this flashlight still available where I live.
I have one question (if you happend to see this, or to anyone that may know), Is it posible that the "Runtime" that its shown on the web, the back of the blister-pack and the manual are inverted for the 2x Alkaline and the 2x Ni-MH? I mean does the Alkaline batteries really last that much longer than the Ni-MH?
Thank you!!!
Yes, the details are wrong, Ni-MH always lasts longer than Alkaline
@@MrBazReviews Thank you!
@@MrBazReviews I have one mroe question if you are so kind, I got this one two months ago, and I found that the first two settings looks like a warm light beam, while the last two settings (highest lumen ones) seems like cold light beams. Did you notice this too?
Also 1 more comment: Battery life is not even close to what the table show (even If I know the files are inverted between alkaline and ni-mh), which sucks (even using very good alkaline batteries). I ended up going back to my Fenix E12 V1 which is not as brighter, but at least battery life is better.
Do you think I have a "broken"/not working as intended unit perhaps?
Thank you soo much if you can answer.
@@rodrirm I never use Alkaline except in an emergency, the tables are wrong due to the Ni-MH being long lasting (as you expect)
The tint does change a bit with power level, this is quite common on many models from various makers, some less obvious but many do shift a bit.
@@MrBazReviews Thank you once again. This is only my second "expensive" flashlight so I don't have much experience with other models or brands!!!
Really appreciate your input, I will consider getting my self some NI-MH batteries. Im still amazed by my long lasting E12 V1.
Have a great 2023!
I do like the look of this one, I primarily use 18650/21700 torches but do like a couple of AA ones, Especially after trying the EBL AA's and AAA's, thanks for the review,
Take care and stay safe 🇮🇪🇬🇧
AA is still useful for many, not too many around v lithium but I think for some it's a good battery format and very common. All good here stay safe too!
Is it Cold White or Warm ?
cool
@@MrBazReviews Nice , Thanks !
Have you try the runtime with nimh 2450mah like ikea ladda ? Can it run until 90hours ?
Their numbers are here 0:09, so with an eneloop just as a bit more for higher capacity. Oh they got the numbers mixed up too so the higher ones are Ni-MH
@@MrBazReviews they write it was tested on 1900mah nimh. So i assume the 2450 is the same or little bit lower than alkaline. Have you try the real test if it could run as long as the written spec ?
@@timbersync I just told you the numbers were reversed Ni-MH is always longer, their figures are fairly close add more for higher capacity. Sorry but I don't have time to do run time tests on batteries/torches I have to keep working on new content
@@timbersyncDon't have Ikea battery but Eneloop Pro 2550 mah × 2 can run approximately 5 hours
Termal protection- 120s to 250lm?...
It's variable based on temperature 58 degrees Celsius , as shown in the user guide so it ramps down/up depending on the temp
More runtime on alkaline battery 😳.
I'd say reverse the figures they obviously swapped them up!
Someone screwed with the marketing graphics on a few models. The older stuff has the correct numbers to match battery type. I suspect it was a batch job for a bunch of new models and the mistake never got noticed or caught the entire time.
Nice review! No memory is a deal killer for me.
It's a strange move a memory is needed
Can you only use alkaline with this or are lithium ok?
1.5V only for this model
Two major problems with all the reviews I've watched the last couple of days trying to decide on which lights to get:
1) The reviewer doesn't understand camera sensor response to light, and/or doesn't fix the exposure
2) They nearly all fail to go out to VERY dark areas and test the lights.
It's pretty darn useless to show an arbitrarily illuminated area that we have no idea of scale/range, illuminated by tons of light pollution from local street lights. Refer to point 1.
Perhaps you should have put that copy/paste comment on a review which deserves it. I can think of quite a few who just whip their phone out, auto everything near useless for beam shots - worse don't even talk about things that are not so great.
The camera is fixed exposure and WB, it is done for a reason to give more accurate beam shots. It is also repeatable, across many products, so you can see differences in output and tint etc. So I will ignore the first remark, because you obviously didn't watch the video.
The second about light pollution, yes I can go to a very dark woods to take shots. But wait, if the moon is out I'm also getting light pollution. If the times for shooting are limited to only pitch black days/areas, that isn't going to work for any kind of review schedule. It is very likely you WILL be using a torch in areas of light pollution. Perhaps you'd like to try doing your own reviews, and you might have an appreciation of the time/effort it takes.
@@MrBazReviews I did watch the video. Where you are down the side of the building looking towards dustbins and the gate was very useful.
You're right about it being a rant. I'm sorry it came across as a rant at you; it was not.
I have watched over 100 such review videos the last few days trying to sort paid reviews from honest opinion, and many times the "beam shots" are poorly done. I can read spec sheets all day long, but at the end it doesn't describe what you get out of the torch.
Illuminated areas ARE useful, because you can see the relative brightness in such situations, but the problem is without knowing the camera/CCD used it can be hard to figure out the response of the camera/color balance to know what I'm looking at.
Your "drop down test" was the best I've seen anywhere. I wish more lights were tested in this way.
Just so you know, your video was one that actually persuaded me to order this light. It looks great, and I'm looking forward to receiving it!
@@paradoxicalcat7173 The problem making a video is, my idea of what might be useful to see, might not be for everyone. I've seen people do 45 minute documentary type videos on torches. Frankly, I have no idea why anyone would want to do that, yet if that's what someone likes fire away!
All I wanted to do was create to the point videos, showing as much as I could, without getting in to ultra geek type testing. I'm just not into that at all.
Also the time it would take would be unreasonable, and ridiculous. I test simple things like charging speed where appropriate.
With the beams the distances, again would add to the time significantly, the shed is about 90ft away for reference. I try to show what I can (and the torch up close, some don't even do that very well). I was much more into torches a few years back, I still am interested in them - yet for all the efforts relatively few makers send items in. So these days it's just the odd one now and then.
I do try, it might seem a video like this takes no time to make, that's not the case, quite a few hours or shooting and editing. The beams have improved a lot since I first started, it's a learning curve as such.
@@MrBazReviews I can imagine it's not a quick process. The effort is certainly appreciated!
Thanks for the distance information on the shed.