Very interesting video, Chris. You put a lot of very useful and helpful information into this video. Thank you. The 'office' part had a some real gems of info. Regarding the 'office' part of the video, it looks like your camera is slightly tilted. The view is interesting in that in that we seem to get a better view of your and you look more comfortable in that you sat back in your chair instead of being hunched over and away from the camera. It looks good. With you being so off to the side it opens up the possibility for you to put 'infographics' and such like on the screen in the space beside you. Such a thing may help you get more technical points across. It will be interesting if you do this, particularly if there were, for example, basic animations that showed what you were talking about. This would also open you up to the possibility of doing videos that may not have on-site content but had just a much value in them, a more 'tutorial' type video for want of a better way of putting it. Regarding my own thoughts on your site work, I agree that the fan was initially shaking very badly but when then towel was removed the fan ran very well - or at least it appeared to on camera. It may well be one of those things that needs to be observed with one's own eyes, and ears, to make a judgement and recommendation. Regarding the amount of grease that was apparent in the video, I would also consider why there would be so much making it as far as the fan as there should be separator devices in the kitchen area. As it was possible for a towel to get to the fan in the first place, I wonder if everything was in order in the system prior to the fan. You talked about taking the customer by the hand and scolding them. In my experience, I've almost never taken that approach with a customer as it rarely has a positive outcome, particularly longer term. I do try to show the customer what is going on. If they are willing to go up on the roof, and it is safe for them to do so, then I would take them up and show them as long as it is in the best interests of the parties concerned to do so. A picture is worth a thousand words, so they say, and with some people actually seeing something this bad can make them a lot more diligent and save you a lot of talking as the reality will speak for itself. They may also be very grateful for the opportunity to really understand something which is potentially very good for future business, could be particularly good for business if the person remembers how awesome you are and recommends you at their next job! Do I think you made the right decision recommending replacing the fan? Knowing you are a perfectionist, the other issues you mentioned such as the motor overheating and in the interests of avoiding a negative callback because history repeated itself, then I'm inclined to say yes. You know your customer, I don't. It was likely the most cost-effective solution longer term as long as the cleaners can get the job done properly cleaning the grease off. It's also the only way you can put any kind of guarantee on all your remedial work. Great job, Chris.
I completely agree with your recommendation to replace the fan, it was definitely warranted, given the massive amount of grease leaking everywhere. Thanks for the awesome video Chris! 👍🏻👍🏻
Another solid diagnosis and a great example of how you’ve reached mastery in your craft. You knew it was a towel from the get-go. I love that phase of the career when your intuition gets dialled in. As for the suspect cook.. “lie, deny, and act surprised!”
Ive been this trade for 6 years...mostly specializing in refrigeration and commercial units. this man is the only guy i can stand to watch, apart from hvac school/kalos. This man keeps it real and always down to business. Ill never move to cali but i would love to work for this guy. hehe
@@HVACRVIDEOS Haha I was blasted on vodka Funny I have a friend that has a grease cleaning business and I went on the roof of a restaurant to check out the big fan they had to pressure wash, First question I asked was if it was powerful enough to have things suckled into it and the whole crew did an all at once OHH YEAAH lmfao
I completely agree with you, you got them up and running and gave the customer your honest, professional opinion. You would likely make more money continuing to fix the old terdburger than replacing it but replacing it is what I would have done if it were my money (and roof) on the line
This brings back memories...in our case, those fans usually were integrated into the ductwork inside the building. So you had to surgically remove it from the attic or concealed spaces. Horrible that stuff was everywhere, you your tools and a lot of stuff were soaked, one day to clean all and that smell stayed for wuite some time. Best prctice was those white one way protection overalls and a lot of plastic bags and foil...and dome old tools. And yes its best when a technican has a look since you can often alredy hear if someting is wrong, bearings broken, a balance counterweight flew off the wheel, things came loose, etc. But I really dont miss those jobs at all:p
I believe that you handled this very well. You were up front with your customer. You stayed in your lane and didn't scold the restaurant manager. I run my own company and just started watching your video love them so far
We have the same "not owning up" problem but it is called "The bored crewman" problem. A crewman inadvertently clicks on something, generally out of boredom, and, if he is very unlucky, twenty years of important data seems to disappear. Not wanting to be fired, he doesn't report it so the captain or the mate who is responsible find out about the "lost" data by surprise and calls me extremely pissed off. The fix is about two clicks and whoever I am talking to is grateful and apologizes for all of the bad names he called me and the software :). I am not above a sanctimonious lecture about the importance of backing up data at this point.
As others have said: case-by-case. I would add to that if you're talking about a big franchise chain restaurant, my first choice would be to start the truck and the hour meter. If you're working with the same person for a while and you decide you can trust them to be your eyes and ears, then it's possible to make an exception in that case. I would also be careful about it, because if the Home Office hears that you're delegating your contractual responsibilities to their employees, you may get your contract canceled.
You just do your job. Smart enough to keep out of the drama. If you tell a”manager” to go on a roof and they pull a towel out and lose a finger or worse it will be on you . Or when they flip the fan up and hinge breaks and lands on someone, you get the blame.Make a site visit document make recommendations and move on.
From the way it was stated before we saw it I definitely figured out that this wasn't the first towel in the fan event. I'd rather take a towel in the fan than a dead bird. From my perspective when it comes to customer - it depends on the customer. Some of them are quite skilled, others aren't. If there's a skilled customer that's having their business far away then I'd definitely take some time to show them some basic things to at least save time from the most obvious stuff that can occur.
Working in the apartment industry, I've seen guys attempt to walk a resident through something like shutting water off to their home and break the main water shut off and make it worse. I don't trust residents to touch anything. Not to mention, they are paying a substantial amount of money to have me take care of it. Don't rely on customers to do your job.
Yeah, but they aren’t paying you out of pocket by the hour. Here, the restaurant is strongly incentivized to not have to call bro out in the middle of the night on overtime and charge the restaurant like a bajillion dollars to do walk up to the roof, tip a fan, and pull out a rag.
The customers aren't gonna change, no matter how much you lecture them, so there's no need to waste your time. You done exactly what should have been done on this call.
As for exchanging the fan I agree, too. Unbalance at those speed and vibration will quickly damage the bearings and other components, this accumulation of grease is a risk of overheating and a sewere fire hazard...cleaning and refurbishing it would be a total by effort...apart from that you most likely compromise tge coil insulation by agressive degreasers...so this exchange was a very good idea and a solution instead of putting a problem on hold. As for dealing with customers I didnt discuss much. Its their money I make recommendations, tell them the facts and things like tgat they are supposed to put the mesh filters into tge dishwasher after every shift(which tgey mostly never do) and I relieve myself of responsibility by stating poor conditions and findings in my work report. If tgeres a fire on the roof there may be the question who was last there and could I have seen hazards. But over here, if tgey have a gas or coal stove, the chimney sweep also checks ventilation on a regular basis, taking CO Measurement, checking for fire hazards. And that guy has tge power to shut down the business if tge owner sits problems out
This fan motor is a closed type so there would be very little risk of the degreaser getting inside it. But with that said agree it was best to just replace the whole entire fan.
I 100% agree with your assessment that you're an outside vendor and you report to somebody in the corporate office You're findings and you let them make their decisions based on the information you give them and a lot of restaurants don't clean those exhaust vents fans on the roof most of the lucky if they clean if they have a hood cleaning company come and clean hoods out every 6 months when it should be done every 3 months but anyways great video
Always install an exhaust fan horizontally, not vertically whenever you possibly can. Just takes a little more sheet metal and the motor bearings will thank you by decades of use.
Buenas tardes Chris, pienso que tú decisión es muy buena y responsable, si dejas ése equipo funcionando así como estaba, tal vez los daños serian mucho mayor. Además de no aplicar las limpiezas de mantenimiento que se requiere. Tú decisión muy eficaz otro problema que resuelven. Saludos desde Coacalco Edo de México.
@HVACRVIDEOS Que tal Chris buenos días, no trabajo estos equipos solo trabajé cuatro años en un hotel de mantenimiento el hotel se llamaba NIKO MEXICO. Y aquí vi las extracciones de cocina y las teníamos que limpiar, era muy difícil retirar todo el cochambre mas cuando se encontraba pegajoso y aguado, terminábamos muy mugrosos y pegajosos jajaja 😂. Pero en realidad no trabajo estas extracciones. Saludos mi estimado Chris.
Chris I would have handled that exactly the same way. I’m a lead tech/ field manager and I teach guys under me the same way. Resolving these issues now keep the customer from being inconvenienced or loosing money from having to shut down. That and our company has one less ot call to run on a Friday night.
As soon as I saw that Fan , it reminded me of the scene where 'Old BoB' first meets Maximilian... if you're a middle aged Gen-X, then you'll know which movie!
Are debris related failures a substantial percentage of exhaust fan failures? Would it justify a fixed non-rotating cylindrical metal mesh filter just before the vanes , allowing grease to drip into the catch pan?
Nice video. but not sure if anybody said it already but 1. that grease trap/space for it to fall i expect you didn't change it or did you change it to look properly? maybe you just cut it out of video 2. that whole assembly was looking like was fit by something..not sure if you mention it or not.. (check 5:30 middle right screen you can see that rim of the exhaust fun but damaged..) Outside of that all fine.
I think it makes sense to replace it. Once damaged, it seems like it would give out sooner or later. Might as well just do it so you have a planned outage. You knew this would be a cloth in it, would it be smart to install a grate to protect the fan? if a cloth gets sucked in, you'll have bad performance from a plugged vent but it should be less damage to the fan, and you should be able to just clear it. Edited:from a plugged vent into the sentence.
Does that de-greasing chemical marking on the side raise any concerns for you? It almost looks like they were spraying the bottom and ignoring the roof and relying on it being sucked up into it. Have you seen any of those chemicals damage a motor?
I'm partial to you can avoid these issues most times by not doing these things but still understanding things happen. I try not to be upset about things that happen because I know sometimes things just happen
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@watermanone7567 you would spend hours if not days trying to get few bucks back on something no one cares about. It doesn't affect the performance and ping pong game of who is to blame isn't worth the time
The towel could have damaged other things, by contact or vibration. Once you removed the towel and tested that it was still balanced, the fan is good to run so the cooks can cook. The grease issue is a separate issue that you documented and replacement is the fix for it (according to you, I'm not HVAC). This could have ended with you informing the customer that a towel was removed from the unit, and that you recommend they replace it due to it dumping grease, and they could have said 'no' to the replacement. In this case, they opted to replace the fan.
07:50 - I'm **serious** here. How could you call a human an 'adult', when they cause a trouble, intentionally or accidentally, and then they just... pull their noggins in between their shoulders... like KIDS would do! And not ~$c?i@$ ***OWN*** up their mistake. And I'm talking here as an admittedly not fully grown up under the dome.
The fan was running very well after the towel was removed. I think you could’ve given them the option to try and have the fan cleaned professionally and see what happens there could’ve been some real life left on that fan.
You can only do so much and you certainly can't fix stupid You can put a hundred stickers in a hundred different languages on the hood to prevent such thing happening and it would still happen "Works by design" is always an option. Some chicken wire in the hood would have caught that towel but presents other problems for cleaning the duct, grease build up and so on
Just give him the facts hey I found a towel in the blower Don't tell him why you think it's up there just tell him hey this is what I found and let them connect the dots however they connect the dots give them price points so that they have options and you're doing your job well
Very interesting video, Chris. You put a lot of very useful and helpful information into this video. Thank you. The 'office' part had a some real gems of info.
Regarding the 'office' part of the video, it looks like your camera is slightly tilted. The view is interesting in that in that we seem to get a better view of your and you look more comfortable in that you sat back in your chair instead of being hunched over and away from the camera. It looks good. With you being so off to the side it opens up the possibility for you to put 'infographics' and such like on the screen in the space beside you. Such a thing may help you get more technical points across. It will be interesting if you do this, particularly if there were, for example, basic animations that showed what you were talking about. This would also open you up to the possibility of doing videos that may not have on-site content but had just a much value in them, a more 'tutorial' type video for want of a better way of putting it.
Regarding my own thoughts on your site work, I agree that the fan was initially shaking very badly but when then towel was removed the fan ran very well - or at least it appeared to on camera. It may well be one of those things that needs to be observed with one's own eyes, and ears, to make a judgement and recommendation.
Regarding the amount of grease that was apparent in the video, I would also consider why there would be so much making it as far as the fan as there should be separator devices in the kitchen area. As it was possible for a towel to get to the fan in the first place, I wonder if everything was in order in the system prior to the fan.
You talked about taking the customer by the hand and scolding them. In my experience, I've almost never taken that approach with a customer as it rarely has a positive outcome, particularly longer term. I do try to show the customer what is going on. If they are willing to go up on the roof, and it is safe for them to do so, then I would take them up and show them as long as it is in the best interests of the parties concerned to do so. A picture is worth a thousand words, so they say, and with some people actually seeing something this bad can make them a lot more diligent and save you a lot of talking as the reality will speak for itself. They may also be very grateful for the opportunity to really understand something which is potentially very good for future business, could be particularly good for business if the person remembers how awesome you are and recommends you at their next job!
Do I think you made the right decision recommending replacing the fan? Knowing you are a perfectionist, the other issues you mentioned such as the motor overheating and in the interests of avoiding a negative callback because history repeated itself, then I'm inclined to say yes. You know your customer, I don't. It was likely the most cost-effective solution longer term as long as the cleaners can get the job done properly cleaning the grease off. It's also the only way you can put any kind of guarantee on all your remedial work. Great job, Chris.
Thanks for that amazing amount of feedback
I completely agree with your recommendation to replace the fan, it was definitely warranted, given the massive amount of grease leaking everywhere. Thanks for the awesome video Chris! 👍🏻👍🏻
It's also a safety hazard for other contractors on the roof. Over time, a rubber style roof can be compromised from grease pooling on it.
Another solid diagnosis and a great example of how you’ve reached mastery in your craft. You knew it was a towel from the get-go. I love that phase of the career when your intuition gets dialled in. As for the suspect cook.. “lie, deny, and act surprised!”
Thanks bud
Ive been this trade for 6 years...mostly specializing in refrigeration and commercial units. this man is the only guy i can stand to watch, apart from hvac school/kalos.
This man keeps it real and always down to business.
Ill never move to cali but i would love to work for this guy. hehe
Thanks bud, I appreciate that
That grease buildup is big enough fire hazard that the restaurant ends to be shutdown until the grease duct is cleaned.
Im drunk laughing my nuts off at "when cooks suck up a towel"
What ya drinkin ?
Whoa hey Garret! 👋🏼
@@HVACRVIDEOS Haha I was blasted on vodka
Funny I have a friend that has a grease cleaning business and I went on the roof of a restaurant to check out the big fan they had to pressure wash, First question I asked was if it was powerful enough to have things suckled into it and the whole crew did an all at once OHH YEAAH lmfao
I completely agree with you, you got them up and running and gave the customer your honest, professional opinion. You would likely make more money continuing to fix the old terdburger than replacing it but replacing it is what I would have done if it were my money (and roof) on the line
Thanks for the feedback
There is a fine line between informing your customer and confusing your customer with too much info. Your content is fantastic.
Thanks bud
This brings back memories...in our case, those fans usually were integrated into the ductwork inside the building. So you had to surgically remove it from the attic or concealed spaces. Horrible that stuff was everywhere, you your tools and a lot of stuff were soaked, one day to clean all and that smell stayed for wuite some time. Best prctice was those white one way protection overalls and a lot of plastic bags and foil...and dome old tools. And yes its best when a technican has a look since you can often alredy hear if someting is wrong, bearings broken, a balance counterweight flew off the wheel, things came loose, etc. But I really dont miss those jobs at all:p
That sounds horrific, why would they install them there ?
Here is a suggestion, when cleaning something like that use dawn power scrub spray.
I'll have to try that out
Coil cleaner or anything with hydroxide in it works way better . Dish soap dosent work well with thick restaurant grease
Excellent shot of the fan and the moon.
Thanks
I believe that you handled this very well. You were up front with your customer. You stayed in your lane and didn't scold the restaurant manager. I run my own company and just started watching your video love them so far
I had the exact service call on this same day and one the day before I could hear it from the parking lot when I pulled up
What was the issue?
5:52 Who dropped the fan and put that huge dent in the air guide?
Wasnt me
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My thought immediately:
It came pre dented from the factory. It's a new feature 😂
@@HVACRVIDEOS Great video and thought process as always btw! I think replacing that fan was the best decision.
We have the same "not owning up" problem but it is called "The bored crewman" problem. A crewman inadvertently clicks on something, generally out of boredom, and, if he is very unlucky, twenty years of important data seems to disappear. Not wanting to be fired, he doesn't report it so the captain or the mate who is responsible find out about the "lost" data by surprise and calls me extremely pissed off. The fix is about two clicks and whoever I am talking to is grateful and apologizes for all of the bad names he called me and the software :). I am not above a sanctimonious lecture about the importance of backing up data at this point.
Great video. Thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching
You did the right thing great video
Thanks
As others have said: case-by-case.
I would add to that if you're talking about a big franchise chain restaurant, my first choice would be to start the truck and the hour meter. If you're working with the same person for a while and you decide you can trust them to be your eyes and ears, then it's possible to make an exception in that case.
I would also be careful about it, because if the Home Office hears that you're delegating your contractual responsibilities to their employees, you may get your contract canceled.
Good point
I’m new to commercial. It still blows my mind how often I’ve seen exhaust fans like this. So gross 🤢
Do you get to work on them as well ?
Working in a casino, I've watched stewards use a broom handel to wipe those areas off, and I deal with this frequently.
Do they ever get towels sucked up in there?
You just do your job. Smart enough to keep out of the drama. If you tell a”manager” to go on a roof and they pull a towel out and lose a finger or worse it will be on you . Or when they flip the fan up and hinge breaks and lands on someone, you get the blame.Make a site visit document make recommendations and move on.
Exactly right
From the way it was stated before we saw it I definitely figured out that this wasn't the first towel in the fan event.
I'd rather take a towel in the fan than a dead bird.
From my perspective when it comes to customer - it depends on the customer. Some of them are quite skilled, others aren't. If there's a skilled customer that's having their business far away then I'd definitely take some time to show them some basic things to at least save time from the most obvious stuff that can occur.
it looks like the grease tube is longer then the pan so the grease is going to drain on the roof
It was repaired before we left I saw the same thing while filming the final clip
@@HVACRVIDEOS wasn't being mean but thank you for reaching back
@richwooten43videos for sure, thanks for the feedback
You were right on target with that call.
Working in the apartment industry, I've seen guys attempt to walk a resident through something like shutting water off to their home and break the main water shut off and make it worse. I don't trust residents to touch anything. Not to mention, they are paying a substantial amount of money to have me take care of it. Don't rely on customers to do your job.
Yeah, but they aren’t paying you out of pocket by the hour. Here, the restaurant is strongly incentivized to not have to call bro out in the middle of the night on overtime and charge the restaurant like a bajillion dollars to do walk up to the roof, tip a fan, and pull out a rag.
@jordanhenshaw $1000 to save equipment vs being forced into $50,000 sounds like a good deal to me
Nice work Chris.
Thanks
The customers aren't gonna change, no matter how much you lecture them, so there's no need to waste your time. You done exactly what should have been done on this call.
That towel put that fan in 'clown' mode.
Lol, true
As for exchanging the fan I agree, too. Unbalance at those speed and vibration will quickly damage the bearings and other components, this accumulation of grease is a risk of overheating and a sewere fire hazard...cleaning and refurbishing it would be a total by effort...apart from that you most likely compromise tge coil insulation by agressive degreasers...so this exchange was a very good idea and a solution instead of putting a problem on hold. As for dealing with customers I didnt discuss much. Its their money I make recommendations, tell them the facts and things like tgat they are supposed to put the mesh filters into tge dishwasher after every shift(which tgey mostly never do) and I relieve myself of responsibility by stating poor conditions and findings in my work report. If tgeres a fire on the roof there may be the question who was last there and could I have seen hazards. But over here, if tgey have a gas or coal stove, the chimney sweep also checks ventilation on a regular basis, taking CO Measurement, checking for fire hazards. And that guy has tge power to shut down the business if tge owner sits problems out
This fan motor is a closed type so there would be very little risk of the degreaser getting inside it. But with that said agree it was best to just replace the whole entire fan.
Looking at that fan, really makes me think the word "filter" is applied loosely :)
I 100% agree with your assessment that you're an outside vendor and you report to somebody in the corporate office You're findings and you let them make their decisions based on the information you give them and a lot of restaurants don't clean those exhaust vents fans on the roof most of the lucky if they clean if they have a hood cleaning company come and clean hoods out every 6 months when it should be done every 3 months but anyways great video
No I would not just leave it.I would have talked to the owner about everything and come to a decision.You did a good job
Thanks bud
I guess I haven't seen how much airflow those hoods have, then again those towels can be sorta light... still though that surprised me!
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Always install an exhaust fan horizontally, not vertically whenever you possibly can.
Just takes a little more sheet metal and the motor bearings will thank you by decades of use.
Buenas tardes Chris, pienso que tú decisión es muy buena y responsable, si dejas ése equipo funcionando así como estaba, tal vez los daños serian mucho mayor. Además de no aplicar las limpiezas de mantenimiento que se requiere. Tú decisión muy eficaz otro problema que resuelven.
Saludos desde Coacalco Edo de México.
Gracias, trabajas con estas cosas en México?
@HVACRVIDEOS
Que tal Chris buenos días, no trabajo estos equipos solo trabajé cuatro años en un hotel de mantenimiento el hotel se llamaba NIKO MEXICO. Y aquí vi las extracciones de cocina y las teníamos que limpiar, era muy difícil retirar todo el cochambre mas cuando se encontraba pegajoso y aguado, terminábamos muy mugrosos y pegajosos jajaja 😂. Pero en realidad no trabajo estas extracciones.
Saludos mi estimado Chris.
Chris I would have handled that exactly the same way. I’m a lead tech/ field manager and I teach guys under me the same way. Resolving these issues now keep the customer from being inconvenienced or loosing money from having to shut down. That and our company has one less ot call to run on a Friday night.
Nice wall logo
Thanks
I just bought 2 sweaters! THANKS!
Thanks so much bud
Good job Chris..........
Thanks bud
As soon as I saw that Fan , it reminded me of the scene where 'Old BoB' first meets Maximilian... if you're a middle aged Gen-X, then you'll know which movie!
Are debris related failures a substantial percentage of exhaust fan failures? Would it justify a fixed non-rotating cylindrical metal mesh filter just before the vanes , allowing grease to drip into the catch pan?
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I dont know why but i like vent hood exhaust fans
Nice video. but not sure if anybody said it already but
1. that grease trap/space for it to fall i expect you didn't change it or did you change it to look properly? maybe you just cut it out of video
2. that whole assembly was looking like was fit by something..not sure if you mention it or not.. (check 5:30 middle right screen you can see that rim of the exhaust fun but damaged..)
Outside of that all fine.
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Someone needs to make a exhaust fan that can be easily taken apart and cleaned.
You asked for 2 cents,I would have installed the same cfm exhaust but installed an adjustable cfm if the drive is not working.
Also that grease is flammable that fan is a bomb if that motor were to short
Good move replacing that “ragged” out unit😊
How much CFM are those fans on maximum speed full speed
too many,probably about 3000 cfm.
@ really are there fans that go higher than 3000 CFM like 10,000 CFM or 20,000 CFM or even like 50,000 CFM or no
@@mustangdbest220 In restaurants 1 hp 3000 cfm's 1.5 hp 4000 cfm's anything bigger requires special electrical power.
@ seriously Woww damn
I would love to put a 20,000 CFM fan in my bedroom ceiling and then in the bathrooms and one in the kitchen 🤣🤣 helllll yaaa
Why no screen over the fan intake ?
I'm going to discuss that a bit further on my next live stream
@HVACRVIDEOS cool
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The best grease cleaner is a bottle of Awesome.
I would have noted it and try to have them get a replacement fan in which they keep on the side till needed
Never will Happen. Proactive is NOT in their Vocabulary, Ever. 👎
I think it makes sense to replace it. Once damaged, it seems like it would give out sooner or later. Might as well just do it so you have a planned outage. You knew this would be a cloth in it, would it be smart to install a grate to protect the fan? if a cloth gets sucked in, you'll have bad performance from a plugged vent but it should be less damage to the fan, and you should be able to just clear it.
Edited:from a plugged vent into the sentence.
ty gn
Does that de-greasing chemical marking on the side raise any concerns for you? It almost looks like they were spraying the bottom and ignoring the roof and relying on it being sucked up into it. Have you seen any of those chemicals damage a motor?
I'm partial to you can avoid these issues most times by not doing these things but still understanding things happen. I try not to be upset about things that happen because I know sometimes things just happen
That's a good point, I try not to get to worked up over silly things anymore, it's not worth the stress.
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The minor dent has no real impact on the fan. Stop stressing guys.
How does that even happen 😊
Why didnt you go to the other fan and get the data ? them look the same size fan..
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Or worse. The fan falls on the customer and now the customer is damaged.
How many employees do you have if you don’t mind me asking? And how long have you been in business
Your not trying to sell me an extended auto warranty are you ?
@ This one is actually and EXTRA long extended warranty! 😭😂 naw bro I was just curious 👀
I currently have 4 trucks on the road including my own
Are you the guy who own quality hvac channel?
no that is someone different, I own this channel and the HVACR Tools channel and I am one of the 4 hosts of the HVAC Overtime channel
its danceing
There was a big dent in the new fan??? Was that discounted?
Not in our world
@@Small-Kitty-Paws Why would that be?
It goes on the roof... Why do cosmetics matter as long as it works correctly.
Because the customer paid for a new and perfect product. Would you pay full price for a new car with a dent in it. If so, you need to see a counselor.
@watermanone7567 you would spend hours if not days trying to get few bucks back on something no one cares about. It doesn't affect the performance and ping pong game of who is to blame isn't worth the time
Thats a nasty motor such a fire hazard and the fact it has electricity too
How do u suck up a towel
That amount of grease is a fire hazard.. and direct drive. not a fan of them lol
eww kitchen pooooo
Ewww is correct
@@HVACRVIDEOS eww,yuck!😁
The towel could have damaged other things, by contact or vibration.
Once you removed the towel and tested that it was still balanced, the fan is good to run so the cooks can cook.
The grease issue is a separate issue that you documented and replacement is the fix for it (according to you, I'm not HVAC).
This could have ended with you informing the customer that a towel was removed from the unit, and that you recommend they replace it due to it dumping grease, and they could have said 'no' to the replacement. In this case, they opted to replace the fan.
See a FIRE HAZARD and someone does NOT do maintenance or the grease maintenance company is from China
07:50 - I'm **serious** here. How could you call a human an 'adult', when they cause a trouble, intentionally or accidentally, and then they just... pull their noggins in between their shoulders... like KIDS would do! And not ~$c?i@$ ***OWN*** up their mistake.
And I'm talking here as an admittedly not fully grown up under the dome.
I will discuss this on my livestream this evening 11/25/24 @ 5:PM(pacific) on UA-cam, come on over and check it out ua-cam.com/users/livezG2VrrSO5fk
The fan was running very well after the towel was removed. I think you could’ve given them the option to try and have the fan cleaned professionally and see what happens there could’ve been some real life left on that fan.
nothing better than having a spare exhaust on the roof.
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True, but I bet it was taken away.
7mins good info the rest . forget the office parts.
You can only do so much and you certainly can't fix stupid
You can put a hundred stickers in a hundred different languages on the hood to prevent such thing happening and it would still happen
"Works by design" is always an option. Some chicken wire in the hood would have caught that towel but presents other problems for cleaning the duct, grease build up and so on
I agree, there is only so much one can do to prevent issues from happening.
I will discuss this on my livestream this evening 11/25/24 @ 5:PM(pacific) on UA-cam, come on over and check it out ua-cam.com/users/livezG2VrrSO5fk
Just give him the facts hey I found a towel in the blower Don't tell him why you think it's up there just tell him hey this is what I found and let them connect the dots however they connect the dots give them price points so that they have options and you're doing your job well
Good point
Yes, I noticed the big dent in the fan also and if these videos are really for your employees, why are you pushing merch at the beginning?
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74th thumbs uP
jeasus christ a 7 minute video with 13 minutes of you talking at the end ?
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Lol
@HPad
Yes