I'm not sure you have any idea what any of these words mean, because existentialism and neomarxism are as opposed as they can get: existentialism is the idea that you aren't predestined to follow a path that was made for you because you can make choices in life (so through that lens, it's impossible to make excuses for villains by claiming it's due to their tragic past or whatever, they could have become anything else, including heroes), and marxism is drenched in essentialism, the idea that you have no power to change who you are and are born a victim, an oppressor, a hero or a villain.
fake facts=real wizard guys, I found it. I found a way to unlock the wizard class on this lame ass rl server. I just have to become an activist, no one knows more fake facts than them and I'll be finally a wizard! hide your bitc*** eh I mean sexy waifus. I'm coming in hard. Like meteor spell hard. I'm going to hadoken a fireball so hard it will look like a Kamehameha. It's going to happen. thx for the tip, bro.
Fun fact. Rotten Tomatoes is changing the system so the only way you can post a customer review is if you purchase your ticket through Fandango, or whatever its called. Me and most of the people I know refuse to purchase movie tickets online and do so at the box office of our local theater. I guess our opinions, both good or bad mean nothing.
'Arcane' is a show with a progressive story, diverse cast and one of the main two leads is a lesbian. The show is regarded as a masterpiece from both sides of the political spectrum for it's plot, acting, animation and music. Same with 'Blue Eyed Samurai'. So how come these shows didn't get 'review bombed' by 'incels'?
Because "incels" are boogeymen. The vast majority of uses are to invoke the idea that multiple unnamed individuals are a "problem"... even if they... can't be demonstrated to exist at all.
My ben1z is a lesbian, very progressiv, it likes a diverse cast of v4gs and has two main ba11z. It is sadly not regarded as a masterpiece from no one of the political spectrum. I did plot some land with it though. It acted in Muppets and did some animation and music when it was younger. No it had no blue eyes nor was it a samurai. I told you, it was my ben1z
Preach, brother. And thank you for an examination of so-called "review bombing". I have long thought it over-rated as a concept, but was never able to explain it. Your essay on it is exceptional and sorely needed. Cheers, wizard.
I grew up in an advertising agency also, can confirm everything said here. Worked in film production later and watched reviewers come on set and get introduced to cast, tour the set, get wined and dined. It happens.
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Just as a reminder, for the longest time, the critics score for the acolyte was higher than the score for the return of the jedi, all of the prequels and rogue one. Let that sink in for a moment. And the media say that the audience score is "fake", give me a break!
I worked for a gaming website for years and I can confirm the things you said from the media side of things. People took all manner of gratuity in exchange for favorable coverage. This has been happening for decades and nothing has changed aside from the FTC getting involved and changing the rules so that things like this must be presented in content so that people know its happened. This really hasnt changed anything because the people producing this crap have found ways to skirt the edges and basically avoid these sorts of regulations to a degree. Games media is the fucking worst and Ive seen it first hand.
You really cooked on this one. Great work. It occurred to me that creatives in crap projects need to change their response to online criticism. If they want to continue working instead of saying, "If you don't like it, don't watch it" they need to reply "If you don't like it, please hate watch it." The raw numbers are what matter not the intent behind them.
Make writing great again! I love how they blame ‘review bombing’ instead of accepting the fact they tried to ruin 50 years of canon. Good vs evil-and we want good to win.
The critic scores used to impact ticket sales in a massive way maybe 20 years ago. Problem is that the studios have decided not to notice this whole time
I watched the show, disliked it, reviewed it honestly on Rotten Tomatoes and they did not post it. My profile shows that I made another review but the review itself is unlinked and unlisted. BS.
I worked in news. Started out on a business beat, moved into science and tech, did a bit of games journalism. Here's what I noticed: The most toxic gamers I met were... games journalists, not going to lie. The guys who were getting skeezy with the booth babes? Generally games journalists covering the events. Further, it never really pays to second guess the consumer. If something is getting slammed by the public and you want to help your friends, what you do is keep your mouth shut. Trying to paint the public as meanies and harassers, actually results in more harassment and horribleness. Think of Mass Effect 3s ending. The public response to that was correct and valid, the initial ending was probably the worst in gaming history, and the redo was still rather weak to be honest. Its why the franchise has largely died. Trying to paint the people demanding Bioware fix it as being against artistic integrity and experimentation... just made people hate the game, the devs and the journalists "defending" them even more, and I still think played a role in the development of Gamergate. Same deal with attempts to gaslight audiences over their deep moral objections to Sweet Baby Inc's business model, or the quality of modern Disney movies. The more you try to defend stuff that is quite frankly awful, the longer and harsher the backlash to that bad thing is going to be. If you just accept that it sucks and move on, nobody gets death threats. It is when you make it a hill to die on that people start going for the kill. Also it never pays to go soft on reviews. The thing is, the publisher isn't doing business with you because they like you, they're doing business with you because your audience likes you. If you sacrifice your integrity for access, your audience will notice, will drop you, and that will cost you access because frankly there is no point to giving you access if nobody is going to pay attention. Compare Angry Joe to LordKat. Now, Angry Joe isn't a great reviewer, he's controversial and for good reason, but - remember when he and Spoony went around E3 screaming betrayal? LordKat would go on to proclaim how unprofessional this was, and it undermined his attempts to get access. Angry Joe still has a career. LordKat does not. LordKat had precisely the opposite to the correct attitude to the job. Run around making a clown of yourself, and you're entertaining. Be "professional" and you're a prostitute. Yahtzee is one of the longest lasting top critics in the business - and he didn't get there by being nice.
I've done some marketing work too, agree 100% and I have seen similar. Also anytime someone screams review bombing I point out X-Men '97 had a gay, African American showrunner and had similar "pronoun" moment with Morph, people were angry he was made non-binary just before the premier. X-men '97 Review score for the audience is in the 90's, and only a few points behind the critic score.
I literally watched the whole season and didnt thumbs down or write a bad review. So how is their math even mathing??? They should have MORE BAD REVIEWS. Not less. Tf....
Tlou2 definitely was not profitable. They for sure spent 400 million making that game and it sold less than half of what the first game did. Pretty much the same situation as Spiderman 2
Can we at least call it something like a negative wave? It has no conspiracy or collusion, but it's done so quickly at scale that it can seem like that. Capitalism is always a bottom line affair; when a company gets so far up its own ass that it can't see the winds of consumer interest, this is the shit we get. Apathy and a dash of outrage can help steer things IF people stop buying and consuming cobbled together detritus. Great points, Wiz. I watch smaller channels and obscure ones to get these perspectives because I know there is little chance that their ethics have been compromised. Rant Rating is 7 but Logic Rating is 10, both on a ten point scale that has no metrics.
@@RealLifeFakeWizard Filled with more unhinged anger and an undercurrent that it could completely devolve any moment into foaming mouth incomprehensibility. This was great, but you were in control the whole time.
there were review bombing on both sides. People was reviewing it as the Best Star Wars ever without watching it and people were trashing it as the worst thing ever without watching it. Both examples didnt impact the show in the long run. The Show objectively speaking wasnt written well with some bright spots but ultimately the show wasnt good
I took a journalism course in university several years back and it was a total waste of time, effort, and money. The professor was an industry professional with decades of experience, actually a decent-seeming guy. And dishonesty and underhanded tactics in writing were his bread and butter. One class I actually got into conflict with him because he was bringing up as examples of journalistic malfeasance this far right parody rag (one of those magazines where they have pictures of various celebrities with word bubbles above them saying idiotic trolly things the real person would never say). I was the only one in the class who found it funny, (it was really low-bro rage bait type stuff). The professor treated it like a Threat To Democracy and it would’ve been silly if it wasn’t so scary. It was the exact same mentality we see out of the lunatics at MSNBC where they put out a fake story because they jumped the gun and were too eager, only to then turn around and call their opposition out for doing effectively just that. ‘Journalistic integrity’ is an oxymoron.
When I hear "reviewing bombing," I think of people who didn't actually give the thing a shot, and only gave a negative review because someone else told them to. If you don't watch the show or play the video game, you probably shouldn't be leaving a review. Personally, I never saw The Acolyte in part because of reviews, but mainly because of fatigue. There are a lot of Star Wars and Marvel shows/movies I haven't seen, including stuff I've heard is good, because there is just too much. Disney has been milking the heck out of both, and there doesn't seem to be a unified vision for either. They're just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I have seen this happen with reviewers who share their honest opinions online. It’s honestly disgusting and it’s just another example of late stage capitalism and the total profit incentive that is occurring before our eyes. They are trying to censor our critique about anything they “create”. It’s not about making art that people can critique and reflect on it’s about raking in profits.
Art will always be a struggle between creatives and the moneymen and success will always be a struggle between shoving it down normies' throats and waiting 20 years for it to be unearthed by "connoisseurs"
Anyone remember a few years ago when ""Review Bombing"" wasn't a popular/invented term/buzzword yet? And how negative reviews were just... Negative reviews? But no. People who are incapable of taking criticism (whether it be about themselves or about things they like) just haaaad to invent that nonsense-term, even when the ""review bombing"" reviews 100% relate to the product itself.
Positive reviews and negative reviews should be dependent of one’s personal experience when playing games or watching shows or movies, and not on a like-minded level.
i have been on record to say I haven’t seen Season 1, but I hear fond reviews of it. Will it be good? Maybe-who really knows? I think we’ll just have to wait and see.
Normies ignored the show and those who watched it mostly watched it to mock it. I didn't watch Kenobi or Ahsoka, I watched reviews of them. I actually sat down and watched The Acolyte because I had to see the failure for myself in its entirety. So at least they got me to do that.
I did not watch Star Wars: Rogue One and Star Wars: Andor because it had the trappings of Kennedyfilm’s canon breaking nonsense, just the reviews, so it just shows this continuity is not made equal nor it respects itself. Star Wars: Kenobi (really should have shortened it to not make it seem cluttered) and Star Wars: Tano (Why even title the first name when you easily for the last name, Dave?!) should have been a decent watch, but it was hampered by writing qualities.
This video was a little grim, but then again it’s hard to get excited about Disney-Starwars. I’m one of those “normies” you described when it comes to Star Wars, as a matter of fact, and I’m perfectly happy being described that way. I might actually be worse, since the sequel trilogy has turned hating star wars and shills who still enjoy it into one of my hobbies. A casual anti-fan, if you will.
OK, My favorite fake wizard. Velma did not get renewed because of hate watching. Velma had a 16 episode order and they split that into 2 seasons. That's how animation worked.
@RealLifeFakeWizard No, the only reason I pointed it out because I see a lot of people say the same thing about Velma. And it's incorrect.. As for the rest of your video, I agree with you. 1000%
New subscriber here ❤: better watch out my new wizard friend. Speaking facts with common sense and throwing in opinions that are articulable based on critical thinking, will easily get you labeled. Labels include, but not limited to far(insert another word), extremist, racist, sexist, or some hilarious form of phobia. 😂
I don’t think authors should defend there stories or movies. I story or movie does or doesn’t do that and them coming out and blaming people who are scaring other people from watching or reading it is just unreal.
We're all normies of something, may it be maths, music or movies... It isnt an issue as long as we recognize our normy status and dont dress our normy tastes as a good judge of quality
Your right! Review skewing happens in the positive way more than the negative. An example is that makeup industry is moving towards websites reviews where you have to disclose if you received the product for free (and then filter out what's left). It's just my opinion that people are more likely to give a positive review if they get something for free
Subscribed! You might be my new favorite Video Game UA-camr… please don’t turn into Endymion and start pumping out repetitive videos daily, don’t turn into something akin to a soap opera that you only need to watch once every other week
I appreciate the comments! I do like Endymion, I see him on a lot of streams and I like his commentary. My goal is to bring content that leaves viewers with something actionable to think about or do after the video ends. I feel like too many creators just make videos but don't actually leave you with anything to walk away with.
imagine daihatsu buying out ferrari so they could rebadge a hijet, paint it ferrari red and expect it to be lauded as an exotic sports car, then complaining everyone is upset about being lied to.
Wow, that was an incredibly insightful explanation of where we are today. Thanks you for giving your insight into what this has all been about. I didn't expect TRFW to be so deep!
Gave this video a like. I'm really enjoying Fake Wizard's videos! I'm gonna have to push back just a bit though. Not that I think Wiz's take is off-base at all! Just sayin'... I think superfans CAN actually have a significant impact on box office results. Maybe only for certain franchises - and definitely only for good movies - but these are the people who are inclined to pay to see a movie in theaters multiple times. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's what pushes a box office from "really good return" to, like, over ~$2 billion.
Velma wasn't even hate-watched into a second season- it'd been greenlit for two before it even started showing. The general (and well justified) revulsion for the series guaranteed it wasn't going to get a third, even as it became "the show we liked Scrappy in because he killed off Velma".
Where were those shill defenders when HP Hogwarts got boycotted and review bombed by its haters. Oh right, its ok when it supports your crew... the hypocrisy is sickening. edit: Need to add, that was a dishful of truth and fkn common sense you're serving. Gz on +1 sub.
Nice rant:) But how do we get good films while still appealing to the normies. I do want fight clubs and blade runners. I guess good writing, casting, cinematography and acting. I think dune did a reasonable job.
Thanks! That’s a great question that we’ll have to wait to get an answer on. The culture is changing and a move to independent media creation is on the rise. Once that settles, we’ll know.
Can you believe this Morty just called me a normy. Some people. I agree with this. I will never understand why they pander to the people that don't even enjoy your product and create issues where there were no issues 😑 Ps I did cancel Disney plus, the alcolyte was the best excuse 😉
Ultimately, we need to get bots out of the review process, and take the megaphone out of the hands of the paid shills named 'reviewers'. If there's a way to limit reviews to legitimate purchases, then it's a step in the right direction. Steam does this by requiring you to possess the product in order to make a review. The other key number is sales numbers. If a game is so bad in its trailers that only people who love, breathe,and worship the franchise will buy it, then it may still get good review scores despite sucky content - the scaring away of people who would have given it bad reviews before they made a purchase filtering those who ultimately give it reviews.
Great video essay. Critical dissonance has always been a thing, but all of a sudden the audience is ALWAYS trolling when thy disagree with the critics in the negative sense. Funny how that works.
And I starting to get tired of the word “trolling” thrown around recently. It’s been overused as an insult to actual trolls without even knowing. Just say they are nagging detractors and quit trying to be hip with it. Not you, but to others out there.
Not in a million years is this 14% - below Holiday Special. 4.1% IMDB is a joke - many giving it 1/10 Again an absolute ridiculous score for the show - the fact that they showed up, special effects, costumes is going to give it higher than a 1 FFS So it’s clearly a dedicated campaign and then Anticipatory obedience - the compliance of others to seek favour with the narrative. To iterate - the clue is 1/10 for ‘inconsistencies in plot’ and ‘bad writing’ - not gambling mechanics or broken game systems.
A small group can review bomb small/niche products and can definitely hurt them. But you can't review bomb big movies/games as the small group becomes too small to be noticeable.
I think Steams way of displaying the "overall" and "recent" reviews is the best argument against the journos that cry review bombing. Its a way to show that the dev recently did something the community does not like, then its up to you to decide if its a worthy reason. Take some of the Hogwarts reviews hating on it due to JK Rowling having created the IP the game was set in. Gives valuable feedback on if to purchase. The building might be fine on the outside, but if everyone is running out... probably not the best time to go inside without finding out why first. Also noteworthy if you see the reverse, several games go from mixed back up to mostly positive showing that devs that listen and change have recommendations reflecting that.
I watched the show before commenting on rotten tomatoes. I gave it a chance. I am not by any means against black characters, gay screenwriters or any of the typical reasons claimed. I just thought it was a badly written, lackluster show with weak visuals. If that makes me a bad person, so be it.
Tyler Perry's movies are the blackest media imaginable, and openly so. Yet, not one of them has received a wave of hatred from these supposed racists. It's only when you try to turn Star Wars or Lord of the Rings into a Tyler Perry movie that people get annoyed.
i take issue with this, review bombing is totally a thing it's why all these show have 'overwhelming positive' reviews from critics, because Disney is buying positive reviews from glorified bots pretending to be 'journalists'... seriously though, 'review bombing' is a thing, the problem is that most of it happens in the opposite direction, dozens to hundreds of single sentence 5-star reviews from accounts that have barely existed for a day... just because they're pro-mega corporation doesn't somehow make them okay and the negative reviews automatically invalid. Most of the disingenuous behavior on things like Rotten Tomatoes happens in the 'positive' direction. It's real, it's just not real in the way the bobbleheads want you to believe it is.
I don't know that you exactly proved your assertion, that "Review bombing" is not real, i just think you proved it isn't done by fans, it is done by companies with stakes in doing so, whether that is competition or media.
Im only 2 minutes in, but I get the impression that youre trying to tell me that the fanbase expressing and opinion about something on a public forum....ISNT review bombing? HOW CAN THIS BE?! I was told that because I didnt like a tv show or movie that I was in fact a woman hating racist but now, now, my entire world view comes into question because I might not be those things that the people(?) on the internet have told me I am. I must continue watching to find out more and hope to salvage my ego from the depths it had sunk due to comments telling me I was a bad person for not liking a product that other people liked. Ill return later for more comments possibly.
Asoka is the dumbest show I’ve ever seen and think that it’s being renewed for another season. Crazy. Message is more important than making g a show that people watch. There are many shows that I liked but which were cancelled very quickly. Being a normal person I realize that just me watching is not good enough to pay the bills. But these activists are so self centered that they are removed from reality.
French existentialist postmodern neomarxism does not a good story make.
That’s a lot of pretty words for shit
Small hats more like.
Tell that to Arcane... Storytelling is what's lacking, leave the culture war at the door, they count on you to be a pawn in it...
I want to prove you wrong but damn that is a conundrum to ponder.
I'm not sure you have any idea what any of these words mean, because existentialism and neomarxism are as opposed as they can get: existentialism is the idea that you aren't predestined to follow a path that was made for you because you can make choices in life (so through that lens, it's impossible to make excuses for villains by claiming it's due to their tragic past or whatever, they could have become anything else, including heroes), and marxism is drenched in essentialism, the idea that you have no power to change who you are and are born a victim, an oppressor, a hero or a villain.
fake wizard=real facts
fake facts=real wizard
guys, I found it. I found a way to unlock the wizard class on this lame ass rl server. I just have to become an activist, no one knows more fake facts than them and I'll be finally a wizard! hide your bitc*** eh I mean sexy waifus. I'm coming in hard. Like meteor spell hard. I'm going to hadoken a fireball so hard it will look like a Kamehameha. It's going to happen. thx for the tip, bro.
How hard is it for Disney to hire GOOD WRITERS?!? Just hire fanfiction writers or something.
I'm pretty sure that's what they've been doing. They just didn't choose GOOD fanfic writers.
@@maxmanramfan Or they weren't fans of Star Wars ...
For a lot of projects i feel like these writers scammed us by going on strike 😅
Hiring fan fic writers is what got us into this mess!
@@Halejandrino Not sure of that. They say they are fans, but I seriously doubt it.
Fun fact. Rotten Tomatoes is changing the system so the only way you can post a customer review is if you purchase your ticket through Fandango, or whatever its called.
Me and most of the people I know refuse to purchase movie tickets online and do so at the box office of our local theater. I guess our opinions, both good or bad mean nothing.
Yes, I heard about that! I will do a video on it eventually.
'Arcane' is a show with a progressive story, diverse cast and one of the main two leads is a lesbian. The show is regarded as a masterpiece from both sides of the political spectrum for it's plot, acting, animation and music. Same with 'Blue Eyed Samurai'.
So how come these shows didn't get 'review bombed' by 'incels'?
Because "incels" are boogeymen. The vast majority of uses are to invoke the idea that multiple unnamed individuals are a "problem"... even if they... can't be demonstrated to exist at all.
Well if you make comparison's then their argument falls apart. "The female lead" and "DEI"
blue eyed samurai ended up being good as fuckkkkkkk
My ben1z is a lesbian, very progressiv, it likes a diverse cast of v4gs and has two main ba11z. It is sadly not regarded as a masterpiece from no one of the political spectrum. I did plot some land with it though. It acted in Muppets and did some animation and music when it was younger. No it had no blue eyes nor was it a samurai. I told you, it was my ben1z
Because those were good? And the acolyte isnt?
Preach, brother. And thank you for an examination of so-called "review bombing". I have long thought it over-rated as a concept, but was never able to explain it. Your essay on it is exceptional and sorely needed. Cheers, wizard.
I grew up in an advertising agency also, can confirm everything said here. Worked in film production later and watched reviewers come on set and get introduced to cast, tour the set, get wined and dined. It happens.
Just as a reminder, for the longest time, the critics score for the acolyte was higher than the score for the return of the jedi, all of the prequels and rogue one. Let that sink in for a moment. And the media say that the audience score is "fake", give me a break!
For that matter, reviewers gave Concord a thumbs up, and that's possibly the worst bomb in videogame development history.
Velma actually didn't get renewed. They produced 2 seasons before first season premiered.
I worked for a gaming website for years and I can confirm the things you said from the media side of things. People took all manner of gratuity in exchange for favorable coverage. This has been happening for decades and nothing has changed aside from the FTC getting involved and changing the rules so that things like this must be presented in content so that people know its happened. This really hasnt changed anything because the people producing this crap have found ways to skirt the edges and basically avoid these sorts of regulations to a degree. Games media is the fucking worst and Ive seen it first hand.
This video highlights the reasons why I subscribed to your channel. Great script, real facts and a unbiased perspective. Plus the beard is cool.😊👍
You really cooked on this one. Great work. It occurred to me that creatives in crap projects need to change their response to online criticism. If they want to continue working instead of saying, "If you don't like it, don't watch it" they need to reply "If you don't like it, please hate watch it." The raw numbers are what matter not the intent behind them.
It blows my mind how unaware the NPC army of clapping seals still don’t understand any of this
Make writing great again! I love how they blame ‘review bombing’ instead of accepting the fact they tried to ruin 50 years of canon. Good vs evil-and we want good to win.
Reagan slogan / plagiarized slogan aside, I believe bringing better writers can make a difference.
i am so tired of this era of shades of gray story telling with evil heroes and sympathetic villains.
i just want a good hero and and evil villain, ok?
The critic scores used to impact ticket sales in a massive way maybe 20 years ago. Problem is that the studios have decided not to notice this whole time
Imagine having the mental elasticity to relate product discourse with terrorism!
Thank god someone made this video.
Thank freaking god.
This video needs to make it around everywhere. 100% facts.
According to the YT algorithm, it’s already dying off. Who knows? :/ Might not get much farther.
Woah now!
You can't use logic, that's not fair!
A Wizard teaching class and spitting nothing but facts with Gareg Mach in the background is exceptional. I really love this channel.
I watched the show, disliked it, reviewed it honestly on Rotten Tomatoes and they did not post it. My profile shows that I made another review but the review itself is unlinked and unlisted. BS.
I worked in news. Started out on a business beat, moved into science and tech, did a bit of games journalism.
Here's what I noticed:
The most toxic gamers I met were... games journalists, not going to lie. The guys who were getting skeezy with the booth babes? Generally games journalists covering the events.
Further, it never really pays to second guess the consumer. If something is getting slammed by the public and you want to help your friends, what you do is keep your mouth shut. Trying to paint the public as meanies and harassers, actually results in more harassment and horribleness.
Think of Mass Effect 3s ending. The public response to that was correct and valid, the initial ending was probably the worst in gaming history, and the redo was still rather weak to be honest. Its why the franchise has largely died.
Trying to paint the people demanding Bioware fix it as being against artistic integrity and experimentation... just made people hate the game, the devs and the journalists "defending" them even more, and I still think played a role in the development of Gamergate.
Same deal with attempts to gaslight audiences over their deep moral objections to Sweet Baby Inc's business model, or the quality of modern Disney movies. The more you try to defend stuff that is quite frankly awful, the longer and harsher the backlash to that bad thing is going to be.
If you just accept that it sucks and move on, nobody gets death threats. It is when you make it a hill to die on that people start going for the kill.
Also it never pays to go soft on reviews. The thing is, the publisher isn't doing business with you because they like you, they're doing business with you because your audience likes you. If you sacrifice your integrity for access, your audience will notice, will drop you, and that will cost you access because frankly there is no point to giving you access if nobody is going to pay attention.
Compare Angry Joe to LordKat. Now, Angry Joe isn't a great reviewer, he's controversial and for good reason, but - remember when he and Spoony went around E3 screaming betrayal? LordKat would go on to proclaim how unprofessional this was, and it undermined his attempts to get access. Angry Joe still has a career. LordKat does not. LordKat had precisely the opposite to the correct attitude to the job.
Run around making a clown of yourself, and you're entertaining. Be "professional" and you're a prostitute. Yahtzee is one of the longest lasting top critics in the business - and he didn't get there by being nice.
I've done some marketing work too, agree 100% and I have seen similar. Also anytime someone screams review bombing I point out X-Men '97 had a gay, African American showrunner and had similar "pronoun" moment with Morph, people were angry he was made non-binary just before the premier. X-men '97 Review score for the audience is in the 90's, and only a few points behind the critic score.
I literally watched the whole season and didnt thumbs down or write a bad review. So how is their math even mathing??? They should have MORE BAD REVIEWS. Not less. Tf....
Thank you for putting this whole debacle into perspective. 💜
Tlou2 definitely was not profitable. They for sure spent 400 million making that game and it sold less than half of what the first game did. Pretty much the same situation as Spiderman 2
Can we at least call it something like a negative wave? It has no conspiracy or collusion, but it's done so quickly at scale that it can seem like that. Capitalism is always a bottom line affair; when a company gets so far up its own ass that it can't see the winds of consumer interest, this is the shit we get. Apathy and a dash of outrage can help steer things IF people stop buying and consuming cobbled together detritus. Great points, Wiz. I watch smaller channels and obscure ones to get these perspectives because I know there is little chance that their ethics have been compromised. Rant Rating is 7 but Logic Rating is 10, both on a ten point scale that has no metrics.
What does a 10 Rant look like?
@@RealLifeFakeWizard Filled with more unhinged anger and an undercurrent that it could completely devolve any moment into foaming mouth incomprehensibility. This was great, but you were in control the whole time.
This has become one of my favorite channels on here. Excellent, excellent work.
(15:48 - end) what a straight fire speech
Bro turned Leomund's Lamentable Belaborment into Ludus Reasonable Belaborment
It's the boogie-man if ever there was one
there were review bombing on both sides. People was reviewing it as the Best Star Wars ever without watching it and people were trashing it as the worst thing ever without watching it. Both examples didnt impact the show in the long run. The Show objectively speaking wasnt written well with some bright spots but ultimately the show wasnt good
I took a journalism course in university several years back and it was a total waste of time, effort, and money. The professor was an industry professional with decades of experience, actually a decent-seeming guy. And dishonesty and underhanded tactics in writing were his bread and butter.
One class I actually got into conflict with him because he was bringing up as examples of journalistic malfeasance this far right parody rag (one of those magazines where they have pictures of various celebrities with word bubbles above them saying idiotic trolly things the real person would never say). I was the only one in the class who found it funny, (it was really low-bro rage bait type stuff). The professor treated it like a Threat To Democracy and it would’ve been silly if it wasn’t so scary.
It was the exact same mentality we see out of the lunatics at MSNBC where they put out a fake story because they jumped the gun and were too eager, only to then turn around and call their opposition out for doing effectively just that.
‘Journalistic integrity’ is an oxymoron.
When I hear "reviewing bombing," I think of people who didn't actually give the thing a shot, and only gave a negative review because someone else told them to. If you don't watch the show or play the video game, you probably shouldn't be leaving a review.
Personally, I never saw The Acolyte in part because of reviews, but mainly because of fatigue. There are a lot of Star Wars and Marvel shows/movies I haven't seen, including stuff I've heard is good, because there is just too much. Disney has been milking the heck out of both, and there doesn't seem to be a unified vision for either. They're just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Because of the fact that The Acolyte was on Disney+, they ain't getting money from me.
I have seen this happen with reviewers who share their honest opinions online. It’s honestly disgusting and it’s just another example of late stage capitalism and the total profit incentive that is occurring before our eyes. They are trying to censor our critique about anything they “create”. It’s not about making art that people can critique and reflect on it’s about raking in profits.
Art will always be a struggle between creatives and the moneymen and success will always be a struggle between shoving it down normies' throats and waiting 20 years for it to be unearthed by "connoisseurs"
Anyone remember a few years ago when ""Review Bombing"" wasn't a popular/invented term/buzzword yet? And how negative reviews were just... Negative reviews?
But no. People who are incapable of taking criticism (whether it be about themselves or about things they like) just haaaad to invent that nonsense-term, even when the ""review bombing"" reviews 100% relate to the product itself.
Positive reviews and negative reviews should be dependent of one’s personal experience when playing games or watching shows or movies, and not on a like-minded level.
This is gonna blow up when asmongold watches it
You think it’ll get that far?
N@@RealLifeFakeWizardDear Wizard, do you think that Andor season 2 will be any good or no???
i have been on record to say I haven’t seen Season 1, but I hear fond reviews of it. Will it be good? Maybe-who really knows? I think we’ll just have to wait and see.
@@RealLifeFakeWizard I have high expectations for it. Thank you, wizard.
Following up - UA-cam killed it already LOL
This wizard has a lot of integrity!
Normies ignored the show and those who watched it mostly watched it to mock it. I didn't watch Kenobi or Ahsoka, I watched reviews of them. I actually sat down and watched The Acolyte because I had to see the failure for myself in its entirety. So at least they got me to do that.
I did not watch Star Wars: Rogue One and Star Wars: Andor because it had the trappings of Kennedyfilm’s canon breaking nonsense, just the reviews, so it just shows this continuity is not made equal nor it respects itself. Star Wars: Kenobi (really should have shortened it to not make it seem cluttered) and Star Wars: Tano (Why even title the first name when you easily for the last name, Dave?!) should have been a decent watch, but it was hampered by writing qualities.
Bro you are seriously AMAZING!! Your takes are the unbiased takes we all look for! Your channel is gonna explode! Keep up the great work!
Why would people be so mad to review bomb The Acolyte. We're much too used to Disney's bullshit by now. That takes a lot of energy and hate.
This video was a little grim, but then again it’s hard to get excited about Disney-Starwars. I’m one of those “normies” you described when it comes to Star Wars, as a matter of fact, and I’m perfectly happy being described that way. I might actually be worse, since the sequel trilogy has turned hating star wars and shills who still enjoy it into one of my hobbies. A casual anti-fan, if you will.
You’re on the money 💰
OK, My favorite fake wizard. Velma did not get renewed because of hate watching. Velma had a 16 episode order and they split that into 2 seasons. That's how animation worked.
If that’s the only point of contention in this 22 minute video, we’re in a great place!
@RealLifeFakeWizard No, the only reason I pointed it out because I see a lot of people say the same thing about Velma. And it's incorrect.. As for the rest of your video, I agree with you. 1000%
I appreciate the candor. Thank you.
New subscriber here ❤: better watch out my new wizard friend. Speaking facts with common sense and throwing in opinions that are articulable based on critical thinking, will easily get you labeled. Labels include, but not limited to far(insert another word), extremist, racist, sexist, or some hilarious form of phobia. 😂
I think this was the vide I got called alt-right on... questioning the mega-corporations is alt-right now, i guess?
I don’t think authors should defend there stories or movies. I story or movie does or doesn’t do that and them coming out and blaming people who are scaring other people from watching or reading it is just unreal.
We're all normies of something, may it be maths, music or movies... It isnt an issue as long as we recognize our normy status and dont dress our normy tastes as a good judge of quality
Facts
"Review Bombing" never happened back in my day. People simply disliked certain media.
Your right! Review skewing happens in the positive way more than the negative.
An example is that makeup industry is moving towards websites reviews where you have to disclose if you received the product for free (and then filter out what's left). It's just my opinion that people are more likely to give a positive review if they get something for free
Subscribed! You might be my new favorite Video Game UA-camr… please don’t turn into Endymion and start pumping out repetitive videos daily, don’t turn into something akin to a soap opera that you only need to watch once every other week
I appreciate the comments! I do like Endymion, I see him on a lot of streams and I like his commentary.
My goal is to bring content that leaves viewers with something actionable to think about or do after the video ends. I feel like too many creators just make videos but don't actually leave you with anything to walk away with.
Great video! I just finished my own script on review bombing a few hours ago 😁
imagine daihatsu buying out ferrari so they could rebadge a hijet, paint it ferrari red and expect it to be lauded as an exotic sports car, then complaining everyone is upset about being lied to.
Woe to Disney who calls evil good and good evil!
Wow, that was an incredibly insightful explanation of where we are today. Thanks you for giving your insight into what this has all been about. I didn't expect TRFW to be so deep!
Your accent is hysterical in this context. Five stars.
Not related to the topic but nice music choices. The Other Promise will never not inflict damage upon my heart.
JRPG music evokes the best emotional responses. And specifically this version is called Colors of the Sunset from KH3 in case you want it.
@@RealLifeFakeWizard Thank you very much, I was trying to figure out which version it was.
Coming back to say I used Color of the Sunset and Omen which are both from KH3. They've both got The Other Promise sprinkled in there.
Gave this video a like. I'm really enjoying Fake Wizard's videos! I'm gonna have to push back just a bit though. Not that I think Wiz's take is off-base at all! Just sayin'... I think superfans CAN actually have a significant impact on box office results. Maybe only for certain franchises - and definitely only for good movies - but these are the people who are inclined to pay to see a movie in theaters multiple times. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's what pushes a box office from "really good return" to, like, over ~$2 billion.
I don't disagree at all!
Great job Wizard. Quickly becoming one of my go to channels. Clear accurate analysis all based on how the world really works 👍🏼
I don't hear him throw around the F-bomb much. Lol
The Acolyte put me in a bad place
Velma wasn't even hate-watched into a second season- it'd been greenlit for two before it even started showing. The general (and well justified) revulsion for the series guaranteed it wasn't going to get a third, even as it became "the show we liked Scrappy in because he killed off Velma".
Where were those shill defenders when HP Hogwarts got boycotted and review bombed by its haters. Oh right, its ok when it supports your crew... the hypocrisy is sickening.
edit: Need to add, that was a dishful of truth and fkn common sense you're serving. Gz on +1 sub.
That’ll do Wizard, that’ll do.
This was your best video yet - top shelf work here Wizard
Nice rant:)
But how do we get good films while still appealing to the normies. I do want fight clubs and blade runners.
I guess good writing, casting, cinematography and acting. I think dune did a reasonable job.
Thanks!
That’s a great question that we’ll have to wait to get an answer on. The culture is changing and a move to independent media creation is on the rise. Once that settles, we’ll know.
damn ! you said it perfectly
and that why people should take reviewer with a grain of salt
Can you believe this Morty just called me a normy. Some people.
I agree with this. I will never understand why they pander to the people that don't even enjoy your product and create issues where there were no issues 😑
Ps I did cancel Disney plus, the alcolyte was the best excuse 😉
Ultimately, we need to get bots out of the review process, and take the megaphone out of the hands of the paid shills named 'reviewers'. If there's a way to limit reviews to legitimate purchases, then it's a step in the right direction. Steam does this by requiring you to possess the product in order to make a review.
The other key number is sales numbers. If a game is so bad in its trailers that only people who love, breathe,and worship the franchise will buy it, then it may still get good review scores despite sucky content - the scaring away of people who would have given it bad reviews before they made a purchase filtering those who ultimately give it reviews.
Great video essay. Critical dissonance has always been a thing, but all of a sudden the audience is ALWAYS trolling when thy disagree with the critics in the negative sense. Funny how that works.
And I starting to get tired of the word “trolling” thrown around recently. It’s been overused as an insult to actual trolls without even knowing. Just say they are nagging detractors and quit trying to be hip with it. Not you, but to others out there.
Was very ranty, but that's how we love it
The most sensible comment I have heard yet.
Also: Yay Sam Lake! ❤
A very analytical take on the issue.
Speaking the truth we all know but don't like to admit.
Not in a million years is this 14% - below Holiday Special. 4.1% IMDB is a joke - many giving it 1/10 Again an absolute ridiculous score for the show - the fact that they showed up, special effects, costumes is going to give it higher than a 1 FFS
So it’s clearly a dedicated campaign and then Anticipatory obedience - the compliance of others to seek favour with the narrative.
To iterate - the clue is 1/10 for ‘inconsistencies in plot’ and ‘bad writing’ - not gambling mechanics or broken game systems.
You use a teleprompter? if so which one?
I just upgraded to the elgato prompter.
Well, yeah they did. They always do.
A small group can review bomb small/niche products and can definitely hurt them.
But you can't review bomb big movies/games as the small group becomes too small to be noticeable.
Dude I love you brother 💪💯 preach it.
I think Steams way of displaying the "overall" and "recent" reviews is the best argument against the journos that cry review bombing. Its a way to show that the dev recently did something the community does not like, then its up to you to decide if its a worthy reason. Take some of the Hogwarts reviews hating on it due to JK Rowling having created the IP the game was set in. Gives valuable feedback on if to purchase. The building might be fine on the outside, but if everyone is running out... probably not the best time to go inside without finding out why first. Also noteworthy if you see the reverse, several games go from mixed back up to mostly positive showing that devs that listen and change have recommendations reflecting that.
You sir, deserve a like and a subscribe...
That rant was fire 🔥
It's not review bombing to call out bad movies
again, another on the nose, brilliant piece.
I watched the show before commenting on rotten tomatoes. I gave it a chance. I am not by any means against black characters, gay screenwriters or any of the typical reasons claimed. I just thought it was a badly written, lackluster show with weak visuals. If that makes me a bad person, so be it.
Well said man. Over just a great video
Bravo, sir, bravo! 👏
Tyler Perry's movies are the blackest media imaginable, and openly so. Yet, not one of them has received a wave of hatred from these supposed racists. It's only when you try to turn Star Wars or Lord of the Rings into a Tyler Perry movie that people get annoyed.
You're like Luke to Lewis Black's Vader
This was well written, too
Right on
I never watched it but I gave it bad reviews hehe I'm a naught boi
Planetary treasure
i feel like is Mandalorian s4 or movie happening is not gonna get any better. the show better off ending it with S2
Deadpool was reviewed " bombed aswell" but it was positive reviews because it was a great movie
Well done video.
i take issue with this, review bombing is totally a thing
it's why all these show have 'overwhelming positive' reviews from critics, because Disney is buying positive reviews from glorified bots pretending to be 'journalists'...
seriously though, 'review bombing' is a thing, the problem is that most of it happens in the opposite direction, dozens to hundreds of single sentence 5-star reviews from accounts that have barely existed for a day... just because they're pro-mega corporation doesn't somehow make them okay and the negative reviews automatically invalid. Most of the disingenuous behavior on things like Rotten Tomatoes happens in the 'positive' direction. It's real, it's just not real in the way the bobbleheads want you to believe it is.
Wonderful! Journalism is dead.
I don't know that you exactly proved your assertion, that "Review bombing" is not real, i just think you proved it isn't done by fans, it is done by companies with stakes in doing so, whether that is competition or media.
I don't think anyone with half a brain cell listens to any critic. I know i havnt in the last 15 years. Its user reviews and YT reviews for me.
Im only 2 minutes in, but I get the impression that youre trying to tell me that the fanbase expressing and opinion about something on a public forum....ISNT review bombing? HOW CAN THIS BE?! I was told that because I didnt like a tv show or movie that I was in fact a woman hating racist but now, now, my entire world view comes into question because I might not be those things that the people(?) on the internet have told me I am. I must continue watching to find out more and hope to salvage my ego from the depths it had sunk due to comments telling me I was a bad person for not liking a product that other people liked. Ill return later for more comments possibly.
Asoka is the dumbest show I’ve ever seen and think that it’s being renewed for another season. Crazy. Message is more important than making g a show that people watch. There are many shows that I liked but which were cancelled very quickly. Being a normal person I realize that just me watching is not good enough to pay the bills. But these activists are so self centered that they are removed from reality.