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  • @JoshuaFluke1
    @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +686

    EDIT - Middle management has been triggered. You guys should see my DMs. imgur.com/a/DAj6dUq | Share the cringe if you enjoyed! More of this?

    • @gusvizcaino4022
      @gusvizcaino4022 5 років тому +135

      Make it a weekly thing this is a content goldmine

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +53

      @@gusvizcaino4022 Haha sure

    • @rayman3610
      @rayman3610 5 років тому +10

      Hell yea love it bro

    • @syanyade1260
      @syanyade1260 5 років тому +9

      f yeaah

    • @fahimzahir9587
      @fahimzahir9587 5 років тому +7

      Yeah its good quality content. Insightful & Informative while being funny!

  • @erikgardea4543
    @erikgardea4543 5 років тому +2386

    WOW I'm not even hired yet and i want to quit lol

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +106

      I know right

    • @Potenti4lz
      @Potenti4lz 5 років тому +27

      I'm curious how many people get fired per day just because of shit hiring practices or boring jobs or company mandates. So much political bureaucracy. I don't know how my parents managed to stay at Qantas for 25+ yrs each baby boomer gen!

    • @EliaquimORosa
      @EliaquimORosa 5 років тому +2

      gotcha

    • @johnnyj7731
      @johnnyj7731 5 років тому

      😂

    • @gambit1357
      @gambit1357 5 років тому

      Lol! Right!

  • @spicymeatball4441
    @spicymeatball4441 5 років тому +318

    As an introvert, I'm gonna need a few days without any human contact after watching this video, jesus christ this is my worst nightmare

    • @larrysunshine
      @larrysunshine 4 роки тому +20

      I'm an extrovert and this is my worst nightmare.

    • @cristinaeden
      @cristinaeden 3 роки тому +2

      Same!!!! Lol

    • @SquatComrade
      @SquatComrade 3 роки тому +6

      I am an anticringevert and this is a death sentence to me

    • @Nectarine333
      @Nectarine333 2 роки тому

      SAME

    • @sneakerfreak2002
      @sneakerfreak2002 2 роки тому

      I wouldn’t last 10 min before walking out

  • @defminerva13
    @defminerva13 5 років тому +184

    I'm an introvert and I love my quiet and privacy. All of what you showed looks like a nightmare. I like having fun and joking around with people but I need that quiet focused time to myself. Great Video as usual, Josh!

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +31

      I guess liking space makes us anti fun

    • @larrysunshine
      @larrysunshine 5 років тому +6

      I bet most of these people are scared shitless. They just pretend to have fun.

    • @MichaelThomasDev
      @MichaelThomasDev 5 років тому +1

      Me too

  • @BackToBackSWE
    @BackToBackSWE 5 років тому +113

    This is too real for the internet. Thank you for existing. Do more of these!

  • @SchwarzeKatter
    @SchwarzeKatter 5 років тому +391

    "I just would like to take a minute to congratulate all these employees for buying the CEO a new yacht" ~ Joshua Fluke. Please apply cold water to the burned area.

  • @Terzaghi12
    @Terzaghi12 5 років тому +607

    Playing soccer in a space with glass doors everywhere, brilliant idea

    • @SoFreshBlaze
      @SoFreshBlaze 5 років тому +25

      Should play hot potato with a brick

    • @TheEVEInspiration
      @TheEVEInspiration 5 років тому +11

      And have some dude play his music all the time on bad speakers, really makes everyone productive.

    • @shahrikamin4699
      @shahrikamin4699 5 років тому +6

      @@TheEVEInspiration Very inspirational and motivational stuff man! I just can't wait for another 12 hour work day after that !!

    • @audizul
      @audizul 5 років тому +3

      You forget theyre developer, they dont do sports well. Look at the vid, he could barely able to kick the ball.

    • @tab8k
      @tab8k 4 роки тому

      Ever heard about tempered glass?

  • @blueice3124
    @blueice3124 5 років тому +383

    I'm really enjoying these new videos exposing the BS

  • @karlobringino8241
    @karlobringino8241 5 років тому +392

    HR: this is your new workplace bright, transparent and shiny.
    New hire devs: So, where's darkness... my old friend?

  • @alecthomasquinn4438
    @alecthomasquinn4438 5 років тому +452

    This forced enthusiasm is so frustrating. It's difficult to find a place where you don't have to wear a mask of absolute optimism at all times. Very draining as well (who knew, living a lie sucks). The only people that enjoy this sort of environment are the people that enjoy having and displaying power over others... remember that the next time you acquiesce to your middle manager.

    • @alecthomasquinn4438
      @alecthomasquinn4438 5 років тому +13

      Have some pride. Keep that neck stiff.

    • @Kloutkulture
      @Kloutkulture 5 років тому +1

      Alec Thomas Quinn Dude this is so true

    • @Tommy-km4wo
      @Tommy-km4wo 5 років тому

      Agreed

    • @Potenti4lz
      @Potenti4lz 5 років тому

      Or people that enjoy getting paid the most over others. 😪😪

    • @frydac
      @frydac 5 років тому +7

      Also a lot of stupid/dispassionate ppl seem to enjoy stuff like this, they like anything to which they are included and seem to get approval by others, they don't care about the job/quality, they just crave approval

  • @cananard
    @cananard 5 років тому +280

    These open spaces are just the modern replicas of the old 19th century factory lines where the managers had offices positioned on a upper level to be able to watch at everyone...

    • @arielgoldfarb4118
      @arielgoldfarb4118 5 років тому +22

      Dont de forget they have cams recording everything. Its pretty much like a prison.

    • @TheNightquaker
      @TheNightquaker 5 років тому +8

      It reminds me of the factory in Elysium, where there's literally an upper level glass room for watching over people, lol.

    • @shadowagent3
      @shadowagent3 5 років тому

      but it looks so cool...

    • @asadb1990
      @asadb1990 4 роки тому +1

      @@arielgoldfarb4118 well aren't cameras in private workplaces illegal?

    • @asadb1990
      @asadb1990 4 роки тому +3

      and thats why most of these tech companies are filled with Chinese and indians.

  • @medjedovicm
    @medjedovicm 5 років тому +95

    Your realism warms my heart.

  • @calebfielding6352
    @calebfielding6352 5 років тому +186

    My least favorite is when they say "we are family". No, no we are not.

    • @lukesky6335
      @lukesky6335 4 роки тому +7

      that happened to me too. lol. And when I asked them for a raise as a family member, I got chewed out.

    • @shimia4656
      @shimia4656 4 роки тому +3

      The same thing for me in my class. Like, I dont know much about you and you dont know much about me and altho we spent 8 or more hours in school together, my behavior in school is totally different from my behavior at home with my family. Peace.

    • @asadb1990
      @asadb1990 4 роки тому +1

      yeah the only time a business is a family proper is when your family actually owns the business. now if your uncle, aunt, etc. but not parents owns the business. they are gonna expect you to put in sweat and blood into the work for low pay as if its your business but at the day, their kids will inherit the business. now if your uncle, aunt, etc don't have any children, maybe you might inherit.

  • @fahimzahir9587
    @fahimzahir9587 5 років тому +615

    Im just beginning to code but I am glad I found your channel. Sharpening my BS meter for the future when applying!

    • @minhtao9774
      @minhtao9774 5 років тому +3

      💯💯💯

    • @intotheunknown21
      @intotheunknown21 5 років тому +34

      Yeah, this guy is super helpful. Learned a lot of practical stuff in this channel.

    • @TheNaz01
      @TheNaz01 5 років тому +3

      Real talk!

    • @johndoyle3816
      @johndoyle3816 5 років тому +16

      yeah, no, I do not recommend this attitude when looking for a entry job. It's much easier to be selective when you have commercial experience, but in the beginning you should hold onto any opportunity you can get even in a shitty place like that.

    • @jdally9872
      @jdally9872 5 років тому +13

      @@johndoyle3816 sadly this guy is right. My BS meter was ever-sharpened once I started applying for jobs again after a year or so of freelancing, but all that did was make it harder for me to land one (because they're all TOTALLY full of bullshit, it's unavoidable). I'm still unemployed. Use your BS meter however much you can, but if you need a job, you need a job. Don't fuck yourself over

  • @tonynee1380
    @tonynee1380 5 років тому +85

    Love how you expose the idiotic part of software dev companies and software devs themselves. More people should know about it. It is also a mystery to me why there is this culture in software development, it really doesn't make sense to me.

    • @SM-sb4tr
      @SM-sb4tr 4 роки тому +11

      because software development is no longer what it used to be. Passionate people who get in the industry to build fun stuff. It's been slowly hijacked by non technical people getting into the industry just because the money is good and once there, since they need to justify their paychecks they start putting in place "culture" measures

    • @huebothedog665
      @huebothedog665 3 роки тому +4

      The thing that makes the most sense to me is that these people were bullied in high school or just weren't cool kids at all. So they try to cope by being like the obnoxious popular high school kids. I wasn't popular at all, but at least I'm not cringe and desperate for the attention I didn't get back then like these people are...

  • @QuadraAce
    @QuadraAce 5 років тому +370

    Topic idea: make a video expanding on working remote. Pros and cons, differences between traditional 9-5, social dynamics etc.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +71

      Hmm ok

    • @Potenti4lz
      @Potenti4lz 5 років тому

      Macedon NKW I wrote a piece here about it. I think a major pro for office work is wider chance of field change/promotion? But it depends on your career projection and company culture too!

    • @Potenti4lz
      @Potenti4lz 5 років тому +3

      l posted this article and some guy cancelled his in office interview with me just 2 hours before the interview lol. It’s not even anti office work. www.linkedin.com/pulse/explosion-remote-work-turbo-charging-job-performance-stefan-caliaro

    • @NadjaPereira
      @NadjaPereira 5 років тому

      please!

    • @jdally9872
      @jdally9872 5 років тому +2

      Yes this 100x.
      And @Joe Troll , that is true, which is part of the art of working from home. When I first started, it was a struggle for me too - it went in phases something like, "wow this is awesome, I can work in my underwear while eating and blasting music and working all at the same time WHEEEE!" then to, "I can get so much work done this way, I might as well just work all the time!" to "how do I know when to do normal people things? Do I wanna go out with friends this weekend night? Nah, can just finish this project even earlier" to "ok this fucking sucks, my girlfriend hates me for never spending time with her, but there's no way I could ever go back to working at an office". Now I think I have a pretty good balance (even though still trying to get a regular job once again)

  • @mrmiyagi5
    @mrmiyagi5 5 років тому +230

    I need my own office so I can fart.

    • @ebendewd3433
      @ebendewd3433 5 років тому +15

      Same.

    • @Strunoder24
      @Strunoder24 5 років тому +13

      Or just a special fart room in your office

    • @pelosuelto70
      @pelosuelto70 5 років тому +1

      That made me laugh too much. LOL Thank you!

  • @wolfsonginteractive9124
    @wolfsonginteractive9124 5 років тому +50

    True story...
    An old boss of mine (at an ISP back in the 90s) used to have everyone write reports about why things weren't getting done in the company. Had to be no less than 2 printed pages. This happened at least once a week. One employee finally got fed up and just called it for what it was.. they said in their report: "Things aren't getting done around here because you keep telling us to write reports about things not getting done, instead of letting us do them".
    Surprisingly, the boss didn't fire the employee, and actually stopped demanding the reports. Things did improve. Mostly. Hard to fix when the boss/owner is the one getting in the way.

  • @basicduck
    @basicduck 5 років тому +623

    We’re software engineers for a reason. WE DON’T LIKE PEOPLE. SO STOP MAKING US STAY AROUND PEOPLE. We are the most introverted workers in the entire force. Just give us some food and water and we will get the job done

    • @tiborpuskas1145
      @tiborpuskas1145 5 років тому +73

      this is legit the best summary of how a dev should be treated

    • @wizzyone1555
      @wizzyone1555 5 років тому +24

      I do not know where you have worked, but this is not really true. Even with cubes, I still have to put on my headphones for most of the day. People just don't shut up, even many devs.

    • @shahrikamin4699
      @shahrikamin4699 5 років тому +6

      @@wizzyone1555 How does it make it not true?

    • @wizzyone1555
      @wizzyone1555 5 років тому +39

      @@shahrikamin4699
      "We’re software engineers for a reason. WE DON’T LIKE PEOPLE. SO STOP MAKING US STAY AROUND PEOPLE. "
      That is a generalization that is very far from the truth with many of today's software devs.

    • @shahrikamin4699
      @shahrikamin4699 5 років тому +2

      @@wizzyone1555 Oh, I get what you're saying. Maybe it's just the community here that aligns more to what the OP said, but in reality, you're right, maybe it's not as true.

  • @DamianNAudio
    @DamianNAudio 5 років тому +310

    They don't realize programmers are mostly introverts, and are happier thus more effective when left fruiting alone

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +110

      They dont realize anything at all

    • @davefx7949
      @davefx7949 5 років тому +2

      Is being an 'introvert' a real thing?

    • @Walterrinho
      @Walterrinho 5 років тому +11

      It’s HR that’s wants to pretend that everything is awesome at work when it fact they might not know what actually happens

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 5 років тому +10

      In my country, unemployment and sub-employment rates are ever increasing, but at the same time every week I see a new HR/recruitment company. I start questioning how these businesses survive and if they are even legal at this point. When you really think about it, most of the problems come from these HR fuckers and nobody knows where this came from in the first place.

    • @Zayindjejfj
      @Zayindjejfj 5 років тому +18

      @@davefx7949 What do you mean "is being an introvert a real thing" exactly?
      Of course it's a thing. Many people have different temperaments and personal quirks that all lead to very different life styles and desires.
      If you're asking this because you've never "seen" an introvert.... Just know that you don't see them because they don't want to be seen in the first place.

  • @TheSunflowerGalaxy
    @TheSunflowerGalaxy 5 років тому +71

    It seems HR ignores publicly available government studies showing interruptions lower work productivity. Human voices were rated as the most disruptive over any other noises studied.
    It takes a person on average about 10 minutes to fully reengage their mode of thought from an interruption. How many can someone handle in a workday? This is why I forked over 200 dollars for a noise cancelling headset. I wish I didn't need to, but work is work.

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 5 років тому +1

      Noise cancelling earphones are a godsend. I just think you could achieve the same result with something much cheaper like the Koss Plug for example, at US$9,99 or a JBL, also cheap (had both and each lasted for 3 years, including commute train/bus) The foams on the Koss I found better, but the JBL has higher volume output, depends on what matters to you the most. Better foams mean that you don't need to raise up the volume in the first place. I'm so amused that quality of sound can come from such tiny devices, these little things changed my life forever (and also made me even more of a hermit) xDDD

    • @thomashenry4798
      @thomashenry4798 5 років тому +6

      No wonder they work 12 hours a day every day 8 days a week. They have to work that long to get anything done with how often they get interrupted.

    • @motherlove8366
      @motherlove8366 5 років тому +1

      Many work days I had where I arrived at the office already wearing my headphones and didn't take them off until I was back home. When that happens, it was a good day.

  • @dieter5202
    @dieter5202 5 років тому +279

    You would enjoy working here in germany.We don't have such stupid things as humor and are very productive.

    • @kazykamakaze131
      @kazykamakaze131 5 років тому +24

      I think you misunderstood what he meant. He still likes humor but not when it gets forced my the company. There's a place and time for everything.

    • @MrFun23
      @MrFun23 5 років тому +61

      @@kazykamakaze131 I think you misunderstood a joke))

    • @btnt5209
      @btnt5209 5 років тому +17

      Time to start learning german

    • @lewis6590
      @lewis6590 5 років тому +6

      @@MrFun23 to be fair it was a german joke...

    • @arwahsapi
      @arwahsapi 5 років тому +1

      Always somebody somewhere. r/wooosh

  • @thetankgarage
    @thetankgarage 5 років тому +90

    I'm pretty sure I'd qualify as a hermit at this point. That type of office looks like actual hell to me.

  • @TheRamp2010
    @TheRamp2010 5 років тому +109

    I thought I was the only person who felt this way. I hate being pulled away for nonsense when I have work I need to get done.

    • @slamislife74
      @slamislife74 5 років тому

      Check out r/antiwork on Reddit! They're full of ill tempered pessimists like us! :)

    • @drewmandan
      @drewmandan 5 років тому +11

      Wait till you realize that the work you "need to get done" is meaningless.

    • @SaschaRissling
      @SaschaRissling 5 років тому

      or maybe just relax for 30 minutes if it happens to be that you don't have anything to do for a while.

    • @daysy409
      @daysy409 4 роки тому

      Gives me anxiety. That's why the day is so damn long. You could condense the work day into 4-6 hours and the same things would be accomplished.

  • @voodo4child
    @voodo4child 5 років тому +62

    Josh is such a pure soul. I understand you bother. People are like slaves now. This is suffering and smiling

  • @einnorw
    @einnorw 5 років тому +175

    these companies remind me of corny teachers trying to fit in with students lol

  • @GandalfPassing
    @GandalfPassing 5 років тому +32

    I was hired at a place that had a ping pong table and I was happy at first. In reality, I never picked up that paddle once during my time there. And for the very view people who ever did play, it's extremely loud having that in a small office. I didn't pass probation for that company and it was the best thing that's happened to me as I moved on to a better role and team with higher salary

  • @bizzle350
    @bizzle350 5 років тому +28

    Perfect video! You mention how they let go like half of the workforce. That happened to me for a Corporate B2B company. They laid off like the entire marketing department. You could have counted on your hand how many people were left.
    People that had been there like 15 to 17 years and were let go like they were NOTHING.
    The company was the EPITOME of corporate America too - company-wide events, Halloween costume contests for each department, Football season team events with food and contests, birthday lunches, social media posts, quarter company meetings and etc.
    The last corporate job that I quit before I went remote had me commuting like 2 hours and some change a day. They would have these outdoor picnics with games, contests and food vendors all the time.
    I did NOT care once I was drained and a cubicle ZOMBIE. I was just a body at a desk. I would drive 2 hours a day just to sit there 7 or 8 hours at my desk because the executive staff took their time on deciding my work outcome for deadlines. I was waiting for their feedback and for them to make up their minds FOREVER. I couldn't get anything done!
    That was the first 10 years of my life after college graduation. I'm still fighting to get to where I want to be, but I never want to go back to that life.

  • @jackmiddleton2080
    @jackmiddleton2080 5 років тому +47

    When people are desperate it usually ends up with someone abusing them.

  • @Ian-hj8qk
    @Ian-hj8qk 5 років тому +172

    can't wait to floss at my entry level position in a few months

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +30

      Oh god

    • @JohnDoe-df8bj
      @JohnDoe-df8bj 5 років тому +7

      Bruh.....😂😂😂

    • @guitaripod
      @guitaripod 5 років тому

      Ian Lastname instantly hired and promoted

    • @shahrikamin4699
      @shahrikamin4699 5 років тому

      You better. Or you might be fired for not being a good enough "team player".

  • @mignas
    @mignas 5 років тому +38

    Love my job space. An "away from HQ" (another city) designer engineer office (4 ppl in total, oldest is 32yo). One room, desks with walls, all four corners of the room for each one of us. 3 monitors block the gaps of the table walls, a stack of drawings... all view to the inside is blocked. Its like four rooms in one office room. I can pick my nose all day, eat, procrastinate on my phone etc. The good thing is - we all just wanna do our jobs and go home.

    • @willtorres7970
      @willtorres7970 5 років тому

      woah, that sounds awesome. Where do you work?

  • @danepane527
    @danepane527 5 років тому +235

    How many times did he say crushing it? Well shit a soul doesn't crush itself

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +5

      Hah true

    • @aleisley5797
      @aleisley5797 5 років тому +4

      Your comment had me dying hahahaha... well not as much as their crushed souls though ;)

    • @hectorandem2944
      @hectorandem2944 5 років тому

      #Oof

    • @blakejames9743
      @blakejames9743 5 років тому

      Nice comment there Dane! 👌
      #workhard #playhard #crushingit

    • @randerins
      @randerins 5 років тому

      next: murdering it

  • @Perfidion
    @Perfidion 3 роки тому +6

    Before everything went to hell in a handcart, I used to have my own office. It had four walls, two doors (locking), no windows, and an air conditioner. It was glorious. I could be at work while pretending I wasn't actually at work. Best of all -- virtually no human interaction. Nine times out of ten, when you've had an absolutely shit day, you can blame human interaction. It's wildly overrated.

  • @gusvizcaino4022
    @gusvizcaino4022 5 років тому +107

    The people who are drawn to that type of advertising are the same who fall for pyramid schemes.

  • @mr.sandman8644
    @mr.sandman8644 4 роки тому +8

    No picture day for the 30% on their way out? I'd like to see the before and after photos.

  • @mariedesignz1659
    @mariedesignz1659 5 років тому +89

    I like to work at work. Play when I leave work. These videos are are really helping for when I apply for developer jobs

    • @ivanlagrossemoule
      @ivanlagrossemoule 5 років тому +3

      I don't mind some fun at work, but it has to simply be natural. This type of "fun" seems like a complete nightmare to me.

  • @desidaken3929
    @desidaken3929 4 роки тому +4

    you've opened my eyes to a lot of BS that I hadn't even registered, definitely keeping my eyes open and watching for this crap now

  • @Trance222
    @Trance222 4 роки тому +5

    We work hard and we play hard" is an immediate red flag. It might as well say "We will underpay you."

  • @TheDeadlyStyle
    @TheDeadlyStyle 5 років тому +84

    Can confirm, got my first front end job as a junior a few months ago, open offices and forced interactions are the bane of my existence, usually I just go to the bathroom for about 20-30 minutes twice a day to get some peace of mind and quiet.
    Glass walls and door for every 'private' office, too bad I dont even have a wall cause my department is open space.

    • @motherlove8366
      @motherlove8366 5 років тому +3

      I had a really hard time working with the constant paranoia that ppl / managers can just walk behind me. I can't even type an email with someone watching from behind. For the entire year I was often checking my 6' just to be sure, never got used to it.
      That last setup where you're facing the view and the corridor is behind you, impossible to work in.

  • @jaskiran2902
    @jaskiran2902 5 років тому +27

    these offices look like my worst nightmare

    • @SM-ok3sz
      @SM-ok3sz 4 роки тому

      Jaskiran Never did I ever think I’d miss my cubicle. My safe sterile cubicle.

  • @CodingCardio
    @CodingCardio 5 років тому +39

    This is a good series. For some reason, people are afraid to name and shame companies that do dumb stuff like this.

    • @Perfidion
      @Perfidion 3 роки тому +1

      That's because whenever you do point out the absurdity of modern corporate culture, the room falls silent and everyone stares at you like you've just chewed the head off a baby. Then you get accused of "push back", and "not being a team player".

  • @aloh86
    @aloh86 5 років тому +16

    The moment you said "I absolutely hate corporate culture..." I hit the subscribe button.

  • @comanandrei1993
    @comanandrei1993 5 років тому +32

    That guy at the start, the one looking happy about a 12 hour work day... I get the feeling he never experienced one... Otherwise I just... I can't believe he actually enjoys that shit. Man, 12 hour day + commuting is... what? 14 hours total? Life's passing you by, man!

    • @daysy409
      @daysy409 4 роки тому +2

      @Yang yessssss 4-5 hours and I'm out! The 8 hour workday makes no sense. Especially for mentally taxing work.

    • @cisco8237
      @cisco8237 3 роки тому

      @hlkjsdfhaskjdfhaslid lmao true. Imagine working 12 hours a day. I’ll just do my 8 hours and clock out. Gotta have work life balance to keep you sane, and spend time with your friends and family because time is never gotten back. I just got out of college and started a job.

  • @praecorloth
    @praecorloth 5 років тому +40

    Worst job I ever worked, as far as corporate culture, was data entry for an MSP. I do data entry between IT jobs to unwind. It sounds weird, but it works for me. Anyway. This company setup rows and rows of computers. Each computer was offset from the computer ahead of it. Everyone was facing the same direction. And the managers all sat in the row furthest in back. It irritated the living fuck out of me.
    We were doing data entry, updating the congregation list for a church in Chicago. We were entering peoples full names, addresses, phone numbers, job titles, anything they put down on this church's survey. We were entering it into the church's *nix box, across the filthy, unwashed internet, using _telnet_. I was like, "maybe instead of watching your employees like a hawk, you should focus on the disservices you're doing your clients."
    I also got in trouble for printing documents. Not that I'm a big fan of printing. But in order to put in peoples' jobs, we couldn't just type it in, we had to select from a menu that was built into this application we were using on this *nix machine. We asked if there was a list we could just run down, rather than dealing with text based pagination. They said no. I know how to use PuTTY, so I turned on logging, went through the entire list of pre-set job titles, and created a basic text doc of just those job titles. I went to print, I didn't have a printer, because as I found out later, I would need management approval to print. Printing was "locked down," but Notepad was available (Notepad: The original Metasploit), so I just told Notepad to print the document, and it helpfully walked me through adding a printer.
    I printed off a copy for each of my co-workers, only the ones who were working this specific task. This all took me about 30 minutes after my normal work day. I didn't add that time to my time sheet because it made my life easier, and the lives of my co-workers, and what the hell, I'm a people pleaser. Everyone came in to this wonderful list, productivity shot the hell up. And about mid-day I get grilled for breaking the security on the desktops, and printing without authorization.

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 5 років тому +3

      That's... silly. It's funny how totally crazy some of the people we work for are, and you just try to ignore their obvious mental handicaps and quietly collect your paycheck.

    • @blakejames9743
      @blakejames9743 5 років тому +10

      They should have paid you for detecting a discrepancy in their desktop security. Someone's IT department didn't see that coming I bet.

    • @TheKlopdokter
      @TheKlopdokter 5 років тому +5

      Wanna know the worst thing? When you make shit easier and more productive, but still get in trouble for it lmao.

    • @daysy409
      @daysy409 4 роки тому

      This job is a prime candidate for automation. This shit would drive me insane.

  • @insideTheMirror_
    @insideTheMirror_ 5 років тому +26

    I've been in a gringy work like that and was horrible.
    Learn programming they said, it 'll be cool they said.

  • @Manuzoka1996
    @Manuzoka1996 3 роки тому +1

    OMG! Software Enterprises copy and paste EVERYTHING here in Brazil!
    A creative lack of creativity.

  • @MrFuguDataScience
    @MrFuguDataScience 5 років тому +62

    I would rather spend my time doing what I want: not with a bunch of dingle berries. These people don't have a life and drank the Kool aid

  • @NadjaPereira
    @NadjaPereira 5 років тому +4

    I work as a freelancer right now and really hate my corporate years. I've be humilated so many times, but inside I thought I was "lucky" because I worked in a large company. People lose their minds and their health because of this. Now I'm dealling with anxiety and depression for trying so hard to be a "good employee".

  • @seth8141
    @seth8141 5 років тому +23

    I'm a big fan of remote work. You never have to do this stuff. Throw up some emotes in slack and get your work done on your schedule. Really simplifies things if you can pull it off.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +4

      Exactly

    • @zyrtor1
      @zyrtor1 5 років тому

      Yep, I do IT operations and it is tough get remote gigs, but it is always a net positive. Too bad the industry keeps going back and forth on it. Slim pickings out there.

    • @TDub0807
      @TDub0807 5 років тому

      How hard is it as a web developer to get these remote gigs? I'm actually just starting my journey

    • @needthistool
      @needthistool 5 років тому

      ​@@TDub0807 I've got a friend who's self-taught, lives in Ft. Collins (which is expensive), and is now buying a house there after she recently got married. AFAIK all her gigs are remote and she has to turn people away now because she has **React** as a skill on her LinkedIn page. Her original degree was in acupuncture, but she got out of it because she decided she didn't like the industry.
      Note that despite the current React and Angular hype, you will have better job-security and get better compensation if you learn back-end skills. DBAs, back-end developers, and full-stack devs get better compensation that anybody who has "web developer", "front-end developer", or "web application developer".
      Hope that helps.

    • @timw4432
      @timw4432 5 років тому

      @@needthistool great info thanks mate! I am currently working on front end stuff, html CSS Vanilla (deep dive - no bootstrap) and have ventured into JS (also keeping it Vanilla to get strong fundamentals).
      Would you advise trying to get into the industry as a front end and building up my back end (whether it be node / python / PHP etc) and making a move then? Is there less competition in backend for remote roles do you think? Thanks for your time much appreciated

  • @randerins
    @randerins 5 років тому +26

    I lost respect for that video from the first "crushing it" phrase.

  • @lennester_
    @lennester_ 5 років тому +4

    Joshua Plz make another one like this this is sooooooooooo eye opening!

  • @amarait2
    @amarait2 5 років тому +21

    im also the serious type at work and sometimes my higher coworkers think im weird, but when i see them taking smoke breaks for 15 min every time 5-10 times a day makes me amazed how they got the job. and they complain we're not doing well.

  • @Desi-qw9fc
    @Desi-qw9fc 5 років тому +5

    "CRUSHEN ET"
    That office is dark as heck. Paired with the concrete floor, it's like you're stuck underground.

  • @sirdigbychicken-caesar5189
    @sirdigbychicken-caesar5189 5 років тому +2

    I've worked in companies with offices or at least screens between the desks. In my opinion, this is better for programming because it enables you to focus with less distractions from your eye getting caught by something happening elsewhere. It does not stop you from collaborating when you need to.

  • @UODZU-P
    @UODZU-P 5 років тому +15

    I get recruiters that call me and talk about all this stuff - no thanks I'll keep my low rate freelance job where I can make more own schedule and fly to another country at the drop of a hat without attending pointless "bonding" meetings

  • @bw2903
    @bw2903 4 роки тому +1

    I worked for an small agency that had about 10 employees at its height. They spent money on useless things like snacks and pushed the BS culture, force socialisation, too many staff lunches at restaurants and weekly challenges (forced 2 hours to create something quick and original to showcase). They even spent two full days of photo-shoots of staff and had a film crew for another day all for their new website. Once they launched the new site - all staff were made redundant and they kept the one overseas developer from Bangladesh.

  • @nikhilshankar4190
    @nikhilshankar4190 5 років тому +67

    Yeah, bring cringe Tuesdays to this channel too!

    • @saketshetty
      @saketshetty 5 років тому +2

      Hello fellow 9 year old

  • @yogurtboy123
    @yogurtboy123 5 років тому +33

    These videos are valuable. Not gonna lie though, they make me more depressed

    • @CamoflaugeDinosaue
      @CamoflaugeDinosaue 5 років тому +3

      I personally take joy in the fact that corporate culture (basically a copy of old factory work culture) is on the way out.

  • @FilhoDeSkyrim
    @FilhoDeSkyrim 5 років тому +7

    Your channel is the piece that was missing in my developer path, keep it going mate

  • @madameproblemes6548
    @madameproblemes6548 3 роки тому +1

    You have no idea how much you've been freeing me the last couple of days. As a fellow digital enthusiast and wanting to be devoted and loving wife I try to kick ass at work and I still feel unappreaciated... I felt like an immature cry baby, hated myself. The version of the realities of my job that I have didn't match theirs and I felt that I was just a noob.
    My grandma is old and she wants to be proud of me so bad ! They have tentacules in my relationships, my friends, I feel burned out

  • @sergioandres1135
    @sergioandres1135 4 роки тому +11

    I mean Dollar Generator is actually a sick rap name tbh

  • @MarriedMindless
    @MarriedMindless 2 роки тому +1

    Please run for US President. I think you have the wisdom of a 60 year old. This open work environment crap started in the late 90s and caused an untold amount of distraction, but it told the employee, "I am watching you because I don't trust you!"

  • @tars330
    @tars330 5 років тому +20

    I'm highly considering switching my major to physics.

    • @pugboi8017
      @pugboi8017 5 років тому +3

      T A R S why? I’m doing both physics and cs. if you’re looking for a job in the research field or academia you’re likely going to need a phd, masters minimum

    • @zyrtor1
      @zyrtor1 5 років тому +1

      I honestly cannot recommend any form of Information Management to anyone very young. I would recommend finance major plus computer science if you have the math skills to pull it off.

    • @needthistool
      @needthistool 5 років тому +2

      @COOLBIAN57 Although there's plenty of bureaucratic crap to deal with at most universities, there's also a lot of meaningful work to be done. I'm a mostly a database developer who helps to support a science team and the bad days are easier to cope with because I know I'm doing more than helping to sell shoes or sports drinks or whatever.

  • @aleksandrn.odes-spb-nl8525
    @aleksandrn.odes-spb-nl8525 4 роки тому +1

    Ohh man, you're totally right. It was painful watching this.

  • @yashmjj
    @yashmjj 5 років тому +3

    I recently watched an episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine (sitcom about cops, watch it it's good) where the Lieutenant asks a Captain to come up with a word to replace *"Task Force"* because it was too aggressive and violent, so they renamed it to "Do Groups"
    This is what these corporate companies seem like to me... Foreshadowing the actual reality with a fancy / cringe term and mind you I'm only 22 I haven't even had my first job experience (currently about to graduate from Masters of IT) and it's make me hate how these companies lure newcomers in

  • @hiyunnie
    @hiyunnie 5 років тому +2

    This is so true, those fun activities look hella forced and cringey. Most of the people at my internship just played on their phones for half the day. When we QAs would chime in that the website crashed, it would take them a whole week to just fix. Sometimes I wonder how these immature people landed jobs. They'd call us "work sluts" for being too into our work and doing what was needed while they played mobile games all day erryday.

  • @breakout3348
    @breakout3348 5 років тому +6

    Your videos have gotten so much better Josh. Keep up the great work man!

  • @rdammara
    @rdammara 4 роки тому +1

    6:00 wow confettis do really fucking up the video quality

  • @gambo9617
    @gambo9617 5 років тому +11

    Remote all the way! been doing it for a year now, wouldn't change it for anything!

  • @jojo_Ca
    @jojo_Ca 5 років тому +13

    Worked at a place with an open space layout yet we had to use slack to communicate with everyone there. Smh..

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +2

      😬😬

    • @LeonsTerminal
      @LeonsTerminal 5 років тому +2

      Literally the same. I slide over to the lead and he says "You know you could've just slacked me". That's when I decided I was going to request remote work. Got it.

  • @21agdmnm
    @21agdmnm 5 років тому +8

    those who make this videos and trying to show off how much "fun" they have at work are usually those who don`t have to worry about deadlines.. somewhere in a cubical there`s a guy who`s programming his brains out..

  • @Neveri93
    @Neveri93 5 років тому +2

    I need to agree with you.. god I hate corporate culture like this. What is worse it feels like it is more and more common every single day.

  • @regieds
    @regieds 5 років тому +20

    I thought that was Tai Lopez in the beginning, gonna say "Here in my garage..."

  • @NMB117
    @NMB117 4 роки тому +1

    I remember when I used to work in McDonald’s and yes McDonald’s...they always had meetings and I was forced to go. After the meetings finished I left without knowing anything new.

  • @crescard24
    @crescard24 5 років тому +7

    YOU ARE A GODSENT. THANK YOU JOSHUA!!

  • @RojsaCom
    @RojsaCom 5 років тому +16

    I'm sure a lot of people would like to include a link to this video in their resumes.
    "Dear HR please have a look at his, then multiply it by 10K and that's how I feel about your BS. :)"

  • @Ais4Drew
    @Ais4Drew 5 років тому +5

    “Peak week” - code for I’m going to work you guys through your lunch hour and overtime but still pay you the same because you’re salary.
    “Peak week”, “power hour”, and the like set off the RGE (resume generating event) alarm for me. If we’re up pooper creek without a paddle the last thing I want to hear is that I should do something different or work harder during a specified time because there’s usually nothing that we can do differently in an hour that isn’t being done already that’s going to fix all our problems.
    Keep up the great work man - keep sharpening the young devs’ BS meter. There’s a lot of it in the modern workplace.

  • @kerninn
    @kerninn 5 років тому +11

    i hate the same things about force socializing at work. i like you

  • @kaizun
    @kaizun 5 років тому +5

    I'm remote, and every week on Friday, we hold a 45 minute meeting online where we all thank each other on what a good job we've done. There is about 12 people in my company btw.

  • @SamarionGaming
    @SamarionGaming 5 років тому +2

    Love the vids, I share the sentiment towards corporate bs (had to endure it myself). One point that does not get mentioned enough is: yeah, these cringe-vids exist a lot. BUT there are for sure great workplaces - you just never hear from them. SImply because they are "happy", content, they dont feel the need to convince the outside that they are all-so-great. Same principle with Insta-couples for example.
    Please make more vids like this, I feel very validated with these and the comment section on these vids.

  • @djb5255
    @djb5255 5 років тому +27

    My last shop was about 50 or 60 developers in two giant rooms. It's supposed to be open for sharing but it's only open for eavesdropping. 25 devs, 4 languages, 1 room
    Go get 'em, tiger

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems 5 років тому +2

      That sounds like developer hell to me.

    • @ThePamastymui
      @ThePamastymui 5 років тому +11

      Like 4 programming languages or 4 speaking languages?

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 4 роки тому

      hell

  • @KennTollens
    @KennTollens 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah, if I wanted to socialize, then I would have went into sales instead of programming. Its most fun for me when everyone leaves me alone.

  • @IsraelTorres949
    @IsraelTorres949 5 років тому +6

    Keep these videos coming Joshua, kids need to know the cake is a lie! Much respect!

  • @jonathanmarois9009
    @jonathanmarois9009 5 років тому +2

    I feel like I work in a daycare with children when I work in those kinds of offices.
    It's hard to focus and even harder to take anything seriously.

  • @JuanAndOnly
    @JuanAndOnly 5 років тому +28

    This video was off the charts on Boss Level

  • @RomasNoreika
    @RomasNoreika 4 роки тому +1

    Love your commenting. God dammn it is on point. I thought that you have read my mind. Spot on. Thanks. Your content is awesome Joshua.

  • @christianjamesguevarra6257
    @christianjamesguevarra6257 5 років тому +15

    These look like every startup ever and their hyper-cringy "culture"

  • @metalslug97
    @metalslug97 5 років тому +2

    I work as a part-time web developer for my university. Our CRM is maintained by three other students who get paid $10/hour and one full-time data science grad who doesn't know a lick of code and gets paid 90k a year. We do all the grunt work while he sits on his butt making data entries. HR and management folk have it insanely easy, butcher and pollute our fields, and get heavily rewarded because their efforts will always be mistakenly perceived as the quality that we developers put into in our workspace and it's just infuriating.

  • @austinfarley4971
    @austinfarley4971 5 років тому +10

    Drinking game: Every time someone says "crushin' it" take a shot. I think I've heard this 3 times int he first 3 minutes.

  • @auctionmusic
    @auctionmusic 4 роки тому +2

    What makes me cringe is agile...scrum...standup....daily micro management is all it is....I refuse to work anywhere that employs this crap...young people think it's normal

  • @PatrickKellyLoneCoder
    @PatrickKellyLoneCoder 5 років тому +3

    Everything is open, there's no privacy, and then tons of software devs think they have ADHD. No bro, you have no opportunity to focus, not an inability to.

  • @NimbusRoy
    @NimbusRoy 4 роки тому +1

    You know what would be a great idea... cut management and HR in half and hire more staff that actually does any kind of work...

  • @billvpham
    @billvpham 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for making this video, Joshua!
    This is exactly the type of thing that I think people shouldn't be suckered into when looking for a job. For full disclosure, I'm also working as a Software Engineer for a corporate environment, but here's what keeps me at this job:
    1. 8 hours a day. That's it. I come in around 8:30-ish, and go home around 5-ish. This is encouraged by my boss. No staying over time.
    2. I get Saturday and Sunday to myself plus PTOs.
    3. We don't pretend to have a playground at work. We come in to work, then we go home and do everything else there.
    4. Due to #3 above, work is formal, but very quiet and relaxing at the same time.
    Folks, imagine this: you're making $150K at one of these "amazing" startups. Cool. Now consider you're actually working 12-14 hours (yes, I have a friend who's working 14!!) a day. Then 5 days of the week (I will ignore the fact that some of you will bring work home and do it on Sat and Sun). There are 52 weeks per year. Do the math: 150000 / (12 * 5 * 52) = 48.
    That means you are making $48 per hour.
    Now... let's say... I have a $100K job but I work only 8 hours a day, same setting. What happens? 100000 / (8 * 5 * 52) = 48.
    So I actually earn as much per hour, with a lower base salary. But I have those extra 4 hours per day to myself to spend on other things, and on family. Unless you want to dedicate your life to your company, I'd say... my family is still more important.
    Work-life balance! So for those of you who are looking for a job, as I did, please don't be suckered into high-paying jobs because you literally will not have a life there, and you aren't really making all that much more than someone else who has a lower base salary. The long-term game is more important than short-term gain, and you'll just force yourself to quit eventually with those long work hours. Instead, use the extra hours saved per day to replenish yourself for the following day, and use Sat + Sun to work on your personal projects, or learn something else, or... go out, and have fun, do whatever actually makes you happy!

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +3

      2 days a week to 'have fun' isnt enough imo. But its better than 14 hour days

    • @billvpham
      @billvpham 5 років тому

      Yeah, I agree. Most of it is Silicon Valley's culture and how some folks are "over-enthusiastic" about their job so the bar is raised for others. Personally, I do indeed prefer more "me time" throughout the week. Ah well, at least there are the holidays. Happy 4th of July, Joshua!

  • @ArizonaHurley
    @ArizonaHurley 4 роки тому +2

    I walked out of my last job where on my first day we where required to all link hands and shout "lets crush it" after the morning standup. Walked out on the spot.

  • @DBoyTommie
    @DBoyTommie 5 років тому +21

    If I never hear "KPI" ever again..it will be too soon.

    • @thebboyheartbreaker
      @thebboyheartbreaker 5 років тому

      We have to do a monthly KPI report at my job and it takes a terrible 4 hours of mind numbing work. It previously took two full days before I automated most of it. Only two people read this report but we are still required to do it. I hate KPI reports.

    • @nickromano7464
      @nickromano7464 5 років тому +1

      @@thebboyheartbreaker KPI reports are literally my job, but if you're doing them using business intelligence tools such as Azure and Power BI it can actually be enjoyable

    • @thebboyheartbreaker
      @thebboyheartbreaker 5 років тому +1

      @@nickromano7464 It's all excel right now (I added macros, previously it was all manual) though power BI would make it so much easier. I'm about to quit though so it'll just continue being painful for my coworkers who would rather just keep "doing it the way it always has been" instead of learning more and trying to optimize it. Painful.

    • @nickromano7464
      @nickromano7464 5 років тому +1

      @@thebboyheartbreaker Ahh I see, good luck dude. Do you have a new job lined up?

  • @Wrigggy
    @Wrigggy 4 роки тому +1

    It always annoyed me at how the company owners expected everyone to be so happy about the company making so much more money, when it came at no benefit to me at all.
    If you run a company and you make even more money, either hand out bonuses or STFU about it. I'm glad that you're making money, just don't rub it in my face.

  • @BigerBoy
    @BigerBoy 5 років тому +3

    I ma start a BS in CS in one month and boy I am more than thankful that I encountered this channel. Keep up!

  • @elio11111
    @elio11111 4 роки тому +1

    I was on a co-op interview 1 time and we were talking to the people working there. There were 5 other people interviewing with me and we all sat down and 5 people all spent 20 minutes with each of the employees working there interviewing us in different rooms. At some point I was talking to this woman that works there and she mentioned how the CEO would sometimes let the workers on him boat and take us around the lake. She meant it as a perk but all I could think was holy shit that's so depressing. Like what do you mean let us ? Like I need some charity from that guy so he can feel better about his life for letting the "normies" on his overpriced boat? Idk it just kind of bugged me. I think it was the way she said it maybe but still weird.

  • @Thevoidlezz
    @Thevoidlezz 5 років тому +11

    top talent = we want someone for Junior position that has 3 years of experience required so that we dont have to train you we just give you a desk and a task and were done and that is it

    • @spacemeter3001
      @spacemeter3001 5 років тому +3

      And we'll pay you just a fraction

    • @codingnoob5946
      @codingnoob5946 5 років тому +2

      With min 2 yrs machine learning , dev ops, and web design 5 yrs exp preferred.
      Pay : $45,000 with ping pong table access, free lunch on tuesdays.

  • @rookievideos8865
    @rookievideos8865 4 роки тому +1

    They're crushing it alright. You can see that spirit dying under the pressure.