What he says is the definition of fascism. Attacking a whole category of people who have generated the very knowledge that makes society work, cure diseases, create and run machines and technology, understand the law and the importance of the rule of law and explore history and art as gifts to humanity. This is not conservatism. This is fascism.
“The professors are the enemy” sounds like something Mao would have said during the Chinese cultural revolution. Pointing out destructive and ineffective policies is a must. Passionate and respectful debate is needed. Demonizing people and groups of people always leads down a dark and counter-productive path.
@neilhollands2750 Your point is that Universities provide equal or multiple perspectives. That’s JD’s point that they have become echo chambers of monolithic neoliberalism. They are intolerant of alternative views and even promote scorn for dissension. jD is not advocating for the dissolution of universities but a course correction to make them less corrupt and back to their original purposes
If a speaker uses an Appeal to Fear, they may have a point, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. But once a speaker tells me who my "Enemies" are, I'm out. I've seen this one.
Universities train engineers, surgeons + many other valuable professionals. They help people change careers, learn languages, create new technologies, build & maintain infrastructure. They provide the opportunity for people from different backgrounds to learn about each other's experiences and exchange ideas. Universities aren't perfect but they are very vital.
Attacking a université is attacking knowledge of advancement which Republicans don't want because they want to control you if you don't have knowledge to think.
You missed the point. The suggestion isn’t that the universities never do anything of any value. Rather, that universities been captured by an insulated, elitist zeitgeist that’s opposed to the interests of most Americans. In the name of social justice, they fray society and signal their virtue, without actually helping real people in need. In the name of science, they discard data about a global pandemic to push their political agenda instead. To a large majority of students, college doesn’t equip them with the skills to succeed in life, but rather saddles them with debt for a job that could be done by someone without a degree.
I was very lucky having had fantastic professors in middle and high school in Nairobi, Kenya, and later at university in South Africa. I include here what I had written on the behalf of one of them, being most unusual in the academic environment at that time, but I would say for now. PRAISE TO A "TEACHER" (The sixth and final year at the "Prince of Wales" boarding school, Nairobi, Kenya. Year 1957) We waited for our "Literature" teacher at class time. When he finally arrived, he apologized for being late and he said he was in a meeting to explain a new idea of his. He told us that he had decided to stop teaching us the usual texts. We were left speechless! To our perplexities, instead of giving explanations, he asked two questions ... At the rows to his right, he asked which of us knew Karl Marx ……. after the surprise, one asked where this person lived. At the rows to his left, he asked who knew Adam Smith …... one immediately asked if this guy was English or American. Rubbing his chin, he just said "oh!" Then he went on to tell us that he understood of our ignorance, despite of our intelligence. He pointed out that by the end of the year, many of us would be going to university or other destinations, and we knew very little about the current situation in the world. (For example, that in the previous year there was an invasion of Budapest by Russian tanks.) "My job will be to teach you how to learn on your own, and I will follow you throughout the term." Then, pointing his finger at me, he said "John*, you will be the coordinator of your half and you will go to the library to research all about Karl Marx." Pointing his finger at Bill* on the left, he told him, that he will be the coordinator of the other half to research all about Adam Smith. Every week we should notify him about our results or problems. In the fifth week, he checked if we had enough knowledge to present what we had found, and with our positive response, a new surprise arrived. "You will have to convince the other group of the validity of what is proposed in YOUR research, compared to the OTHER." I therefore asked him the question ... "How can we compare our research vs theirs if we don't know what the other is proposing?" He just replied ... "John, you're on the right track, get busy, and let me know when you are ready!" Our group, after another four weeks, advised that we were ready, while the other asked for the following week. (If they had spent that week to find the negative points proposed by K.M. (as we did for A.S.) the result would have certainly changed. Updated 2019) The presentation was very interesting, having given a part, to each student in the group the task of presenting it, and Bill did the same. The group won for the presentation for Karl Marx! ( Privately, I asked the teacher why he had chosen ME to propose Karl Marx, since after studying both ideas, I preferred those of Adam Smith. His reply was that he expected this of me, because I always used logic and not emotions as many do, and wished me not to change in the future. But we also learned from this teacher that one should always be open to listening to all the points made by others, and only then evaluate. )
Universities have massive endowments and are ideologically beholden to their staff and administration. They have become a toxic echo chamber and activists
Keeping conservative children out of universities is only going to make this worse. University leaders will hear fewer dissenting views, and trade workers will be overwhelmingly conservative. Having genuine conversations between people of different ideologies will be even harder, and it’s already hard enough. So hard that we had Jan 6 rioters at the Capitol and a shooter at a Trump rally. As a college student from a liberal family, I value the interactions I’ve had with conservative students. It would be a shame if they were all kept away by parents who are too afraid of universities to send their kids to one.
Shadow banning and comment suppression. 4 other ppl were shadow banned. Probably said something on a legacy media video / channel about the election or C-VlD
Funny that Vance praised Universities and credited himself going to University as enabling him to pull himself out of poverty... ....But once he's able to climb that ladder and get on Trumps team, suddenly Universities are bad? 🤣🤣
Universities are only good in the sense he can pretend he's for education. He's planning on "ripping apart everything like a tumor" to install a new dictatorship in America! Weild the power as he says! Sneak in an rip apart democracy to give power to elite dictators like Elon and Trump and all the stars of MAGA. Republican and conservative ARE NO MORE! THEY ARE GOING TO WEILD POEER AS DICTATORS TO CHANGE America to an all elite ruling class!
@derekarnold3665 lol! Hope this is sarcasm because it’s 100% false. Universities are a toxic monolithic echo chamber of neoliberal thought. They are intolerant of competing view points
@@schott43 You have not lived in the "world". I did. Nobody is perfect, but America did so much more good that our communist opponents who did nothing good at all.
It's very interesting to listen to because every sentence he says contains a logical fallacy, and many statements contain multiple logical fallacies. That's why he wants people to avoid getting an education so they will not notice things like that. This is a wonderful speech to give to the students as homework to identify all logical fallacies in the speech.
I would disagree about logical fallacies at least within the first 9 minutes I've gone through so far. I think many issues he raises about how current mindset in Academia, mainly starting with its "leadership" ( who are typically not scientists, or not acclaimed scientists), work should undergo scrutiny for suppressing free speech and freedom of opinion. However, I would point out to the hypocrisy - if you are going to scrutinize the university and essentially demonize them, instead of perhaps, improving their policies and returning to more accepting and open conduct, why not to mention mass media, both left-leaning and, in particular, right-wing and conservative, and your own (JD Vance's) Republican Party! Otherwise, it sounds just like what it really is - an attack on Higher Education and Education in general. Unfortunately, I only hear underlying division and hate in his speech...
@@chrizastenium Hasty Generalization: Asserts that all universities are "very hostile institutions" without providing sufficient evidence to support this sweeping claim. Appeal to Probability: Assumes that universities control all knowledge and falsity because it would likely be the case. False Dilemma (Black-and-White Thinking): Presents a binary choice of either attacking universities or failing to achieve goals, ignoring other potential solutions. Non Sequitur: Assumes that universities control knowledge in society without providing a logical basis for this conclusion. I can continue. There are a few fallacies in most of the sentences. The funniest part is that HE got two worthless degrees for undergrad and then went to Yale Law School.
I have been writing on the topic of the crisis of universities for about thirty years, published a book on the subject in 2005 and, in 2016, another one entitled "The Empty Campus." The fact that still today, despite all that is happening, there is no interest in such analyses is also a symptom of the problem/crisis. Best regards, Sergio Caldarella
Vance is dead on...I've been witnessing this sick trend in universities all my academic life. It has bled into most State institutions and now even corporate America.
Yes Marc. Ackman at Harvard finally figured this out just 1 year ago. When I was in high school, 50+ years ago, I was saying that people pay money to send their children to college so they can hate America, hate their parents, and hate God. Then have watched this stupidity for decades. I am encouraged that JD gave this speech, touch of Reagan in terms of saying truths in public that are obvious but others are afraid to say.
@@l.w.paradis2108- One of the problems with the present corporate structure is that either hiring or presentations off people too be hired is in the hands of people with degrees in "human resources". These people in every case present only other people with degrees and avoid people without degrees despite long records of accomplishment.
Just like Hamas, the parents in Gaza and Samaria/Judea and UNRWA/UN. They spend the years to teach their children to hate and to use violence to achieve their goal. Lisbeth
Wait! Some of us are not the enemy, but we are under attack if our conservative views become known to our colleagues or the university administrators. Pray for us.
WE can fully empathize you in your situation. I (Elisa) used to teach at a university in Canada but was cancelled because of the complaints of woke students. But I am happy, and my husband and I are thriving. If God is for us, who can be against us? We have proven God's fsithfulness as we went through the difficulties as a result of the cancellation. But I am so grateful for the change. We are doing business now. 😊🎉❤ #cancelwokeuniversities
"When they came for me, there was no one left to speak." I have refused or deep sixed million dollar opportunities because I refused to mince my words, and would not align with values I despised. I currently live in a working class, semi rural neighborhood, and have no debt, but do not use credit. I have worked 80+ hour weeks for years, and since I refuse to participate in grift, I have little to show for my efforts. And I sleep like a baby, have my family and friend's unqualified respect, and have few regrets. All of that is due to many things, but what put me over the line, in my 20s, was reading The Gulag Archipelago. If you are not willing to sacrifice anything for your principles, they are not principles, and society will decay and be destroyed by tyrants. Trump can't save us. He is the boy with his finger in the dam. We have to rebuild the dam, once the rains slow down, otherwise the dam will break the next time it rains. And these folks have a lot of rainmakers.
Jesus is not real. Dead people do not come back to life. Greek mythology had epic poems of gods falling in love with human virgins and producing offspring. When the voice of God says, "YOu are my son," That is ripped off from Greek mythology. Vance has just found Jesus. He was just baptized as a symbol to Leonard Leo, who thinks America needs to return to Christian values and the worship of Jesus Christ the Savior. And the Truth is, Jesus is a Myth and Leo is using "religions that have been proven wrong" to fool Dims like J. D. Vance. (Along with millions of dollars.)
If you speak out, your students will find an ally. Who do you care about more? The students or your own sorry skin? This is your fault too for keeping quiet. I am in university now, and to see that you are the cause of my problem by willingly letting them have the say out of fear for yourselves and to say that I should feel sorry for you is offensive to me. I should feel sorry for you for damning me? Evil wins when good men do nothing. That “men” means humans. That goes for women too.
Comments rejecting Vance's message ignore the full impact of the academic world in its totality. Yes, the universities train engineers and surgeons. BUT, that is only a selected facet of universities. In totality, universities transmit values. And, their academic values are foundational content in many majors: English, philosophy, history, sociology, law, feminism...and on! Gender confusion, BLM, WOKE, atheism...and on! At 11:00...Vance gives a clear - and common - example of university politics. Yes, I attended a state university and have followed the changes in the academic world through my life of 70 years.
As a university student, most of what I’ve seen from researchers is a genuine pursuit of truth. I took a research class where we discussed research ethics, focusing on the Jonathan Pruitt case. Pruitt falsified data for many collaborations and was caught after one of his collaborators noticed the data he sent her had many repeat values. All the affected papers were retracted, and Pruitt was asked to leave. Yes, some researchers lie. But other researchers hold them accountable. I actually took a class that pulled elements of critical race theory. As a one of the only white students in the class, I thought it was a valuable experience. Everyone was nice to me. No one singled me out as an oppressor. I learned to question my beliefs about other people in a way I previously hadn’t thought of. My biggest takeaway was an increased awareness of my own subconscious beliefs. In this class I learned to identify some gut feelings I had and question where they came from. In the class, those were feelings I had that potentially could have been racist. In everyday life, I applied this process of identifying and questioning my unconscious beliefs to… everything. I’m a better critical thinker because of this class. Obviously I wouldn’t want elementary kids learning this before they learn critical thinking. But when it happens, the elementary school teacher is responsible, not the professor who presented her with those ideas. At no point did my professor EVER tell us to teach that class to children. That being said, I think knowledge should be more accessible outside of universities. Many researchers also think so, and open access journals are becoming more common. Also, university degrees increasingly require courses that aren’t necessary for the technical work a student plans to do after college. Courses that cost time and money. So I’d like to see another option where people can go to a university and only learn what they need. Maybe a BE degree where E stands for “essential”.
@@gardenladyjimenez1257 Respectfully, if I may, as a philosophy professor and former chair of a philosophy department, I don't recognize this sweeping generalization as being true of my experience in the discipline. It is hard to see how I'm transmitting values in any intellectually suspicious or dishonest way in my logic course, or when I'm teaching Plato or Descartes or Hume or Aquinas or Quine (etc); the same holds in for my philosophy of science course and epistemology course. While I do cover arguments for atheism in my intro class (two specifically), I also cover no fewer than four arguments on the other side. Their omission would be a disservice to the history of philosophy. Perhaps values are reflected in my selection of philosophy from the Western canon, but that's my training and what I was hired to teach; I typically acknowledge that this focus possibly omits important ideas from other traditions, but you can only cover so much in 14 weeks anyway, so profs have to make discretionary decisions about what to include. As chair I had access to student evaluations of my colleagues and not once was there a comment to the effect that my faculty were exhibiting any kind of pernicious ideological bias (note I live in a very red area of a quite red state),. In fact, in over a decade of reviewing tenure files from professors in the humanities (which include student evaluations), I've not come across complaints of this nature, which isn't to say they don't exist and aren't credible in some cases, but I await evidence that this is a real and widespread problem. Students complain about too much reading, grumpy profs, boring classes, having to purchase a book for the class, or draconian attendance policies, but not about idealogical matters ("woke-ism" etc); one exception was a student once complained that my reading list for my philosophy of science class wasn't "diverse enough" in terms of the demographics of the authors (not the actual content). I don't know what goes on in English departments or even other philosophy departments, but my experience with (analytic) philosophers is that they are suspicious of agendas and eager to challenge received wisdom, as opposed to propagating dogma or indoctrination. This was my experience as an undergrad at a state school in NC, a graduate student at two universities (IN and FL), and as faculty at two universities (one private, one public).
@@brianh4625 This discussion in totality must rely on info from many different segments of the academic world. It must include generalizations that do not apply in each and every case. My major was English Ed, my husband's Political Science, and our children - business marketing/engineering. I personally experienced in the late 60's the pollution of course content with ideological banalities. My favorite from a "women's studies" class - objection to men objectifying women (strippers) and celebration of women as exotic dancers. I had to ask the professor. Exotic dancers? Strippers with feathers and glitter who shed their clothes with less bumping/grinding. :) Caution...students who might encounter ideological dogma are much LESS likely to report it to professors or university personnel. The "Cancel Culture" will take care of them. They may also lessen their chance for advancement in the academic community. It sounds like your experience has not included the dogma. That is good news. I appreciate your thoughtful comments.
@ Understood, and I appreciate your perspective. I also don’t question your report of your experiences. I’ll just add that student assessments of instruction are anonymous and students know this, so I just assume (perhaps erroneously) that if a student is willing to come to me personally to report a concern of a professor being a little too personal in office hours, they’d have no trouble anonymously reporting perceived ideological bias in the classroom. Admittedly that’s an assumption and some students are more forthcoming than others. I’m thankful that I don’t work at a university where cancel culture is a credible threat. I have every reason to believe my colleagues accept the responsibility that comes along with academic freedom (with, perhaps, the exception of the overly friendly professor I mentioned).
I have two Bachelor's degrees. One (a BA) from the 1980's, one (a BS) from the 2020's. In neither one did I get indoctrinated into socialism. That being said, I've never been interested in politics. I study it now because I'm an analytical personality - I refuse to make decisions based on the opinions of others. I want to understand things based on my analysis, and that takes time and energy. The world has gone sideways so hard that, as a 59-year-old, I do not recognize it anymore. So to understand what is going on, I study, and study, and study. As a result of my analysis, our culture (and many others) are working in concert (both intentionally and unintentionally) to push the world into a Neo Marxist framework. And this movement is extremely well funded. And yes, quite a bit of that came from particular universities, particular programs, and particular teachers. So those students who were interested in politics or the "liberal arts" were fed heaping helpings of anti-capitalist and pro-socialist messaging. My point is that every university is different, every program within every university is different, every teacher is different, and every student's goals and interests are different. So I think blanket statements of saying "universities" are fundamentally corrupt is a fallacy. It's the same fallacy as saying that there is systemic racism by cherry-picking examples of racism in certain communities. Those communities don't represent ALL communities. Nor do universities or their teachers represent ALL universities and their teachers. I think there are socialist-leaning professors, programs, and universities, and there are socialist-inclined (or empty-minded) students who have no critical thinking skills to work out what makes sense vs what does not. That being said, there is far more Neo Marxism in universities (and now in public schools) that I would have ever guessed prior to 2020. Neo Marxism is a nihilistic cocktail of postmodernism (French) and Critical Theory (German) and all their variants, with a poststructuralist (deconstructive) motive -- targeting our empty-minded groupthink culture.
All power always tends, to corrupt. 16:46 mins the greatest country there has ever been... !!!!! Then again two rights, don't make a wrong..........................
This guy is EXACTLY the Big Brain and thinker that Trump needs to secure your great and blessed nation! And friends like Oren Cass are even MORE vital.. What joy and hope they offer. Stay close to Jesus guys! The world relies on much of what youll be inheriting!
As a retired academic, I question if Mr. Vance had ever set foot in the graduate school of an university. His JD from Yale Law School would not really impress too many seasoned academics!
I am researching info to learn who JD VANCE WAS IS AND CAN BE. AMAZING AND QUITE IMPRESSIVE THUS FAR TO COMPLIMENT TRUMP IN THE NEEDS WE FACE COMING UP. WOULD FOLLOW BOTH REGARDLESS OF COMING ELECTION RESULTS.
"Lies" is such a negative word. In academe, let's use the word "hyperbole": words that evoke strong feelings or reactions in the audience, often by making things sound much bigger, better, smaller, worse, or more unusual than they actually are. It's what we do in politics, solicit the support of people who aren't critical thinkers. There are almost 4000 degree-granting institutions in the U.S., and to say, "universities are fundamentally corrupt" or "professors are the enemy", is crowd-pleasing hyperbole! As a former university president, I'm embarrassed to learn that what a U.S. V.P. candidate acquired from his education is merely myopic and negative. J.D. Vance is a gifted communicator who has learned that a certain element in our society enjoys articulated censure. Fortunately, not all of us sink to that level. Learn more:
This was my introduction to Vance, and there was literally nothing that he said I could disagree with. And I am a 40+ year veteran of a prestigious public university. But in critiquing the decaying university, I think a distinction has to be made between the rot going on in humanities, and the really significant and good work our colleagues in the sciences are doing. And, by the way, the university counts on those departments paying their own bills by research grants its distinguished faculty routinely get and deserve. There are, to be sure, good people in the humanities who care deeply about teaching and honest "critical thinking," but then ... the -isms. In short, I think Mr. Vance was an excellent choice and I am impressed with him, He speaks as articulately as any Yale Professor.
For context, here is the full Richard Nixon quote: "Never forget, the press is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy; the professors are the enemy. Professors are the enemy. Write that on a blackboard 100 times and never forget it." Funny in the end, Nixon proved to be his own worst enemy. Also, can't forget this gem from Vance on Facebook years ago: “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler,” Welcome to American politics. 😦
I became an electronics engineer without a degree. Because of a high logical IQ, I became successful. Eventually, I moved into project management. I very rapidly became shocked at the inability of degreed engineers that could not accomplish even the simplest tasks. Perhaps I was simply very rapid in understanding problems and solutions, but even over time, one would expect college educated to catch on. Not only did they not, but they protected outright ignorance of each other. I encountered quite a few self-taught engineers, and in most cases, though I was ready to be very critical of them, they were superior to degreed engineers. It is time to examine the fascist and communist policies taught by absolutely incompetent teachers who could not become successful through lack of intelligence and take it out on their students.
How are you with *BASIC* physics? I have a simple puzzle I wager you cannot solve. You seem.intelligent but are you a coward? Intelligence without courage can be a sad thing. I also have a coward test, bet let's see how you are with *BASIC* physics.
A real comedian. You can't even phrase a question in English and believe yourself educated. Since you can not even use your own name, you might very well be one of the incompetent engineers I was forced to lay off because of incompetence so great that it put that company into bankruptcy and stole the money from the investors.
*HE IS A BRAINWASHED AMERICAN OR A COWARD. EITHER WAY, HE HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON HIS FELLOW MARINES. I AM THE SON OF A UNITED STATES MARINE THAT SERVED IN WORLD.WAR II. I SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY FROM 1967 TO 1970.*
So happy for your calling! I was an educator at two Universities, one in Texas and one in Utah. I loved my job and my students. Today, is another angry group of students. I don't understand their anger against Jewish students! How did that happen while we all watched? Truth and knowledge take a stand in the background, and those thoughts keep me awake at night. I resort to prayers. Education could be a great place to bring truths by studying history and bringing forth the political swings that keep us in fear. God bless. Heidi H. Treharne
Over the last 40 years Liberal Jews liked power so they allowed "utopians" to replace the "free market of ideas" with brainwashing ,"compliance" of thought. In Canada, the situation is even worse.
The protestors are furious about the Israel GENOCIDE! NETANYAHU says he's the Prime minister of not only Israelis but all Jews around the world! He's causing the rise of antisemitism by saying he represents all Jews! He's a facist mass murdering ductator who lies shamelessly. Thats his Zionist ideology which has nothing to do with Judeism but you can't blame protestors for conflating Judeism with genocidal apartheid terrorist Zionism! It's Netanyahu's fault ! Palestinian students are the ones getting beaten and murdered by pro genocide Jewish Zionists!
I think young people who hadn't lived during World War II had anti Hitler fatigue and just decided to emulate him instead, like the Stockholm syndrome captives. They had no idea of the gut-wrenching reality of life under the Nazi leadership.
This is NOT how I taught my classes at Indiana State University. This is not how my colleagues taught & teach. I have two kids: one had a great college outcome, and one didn't go to college, and is serving in the NAVY. I told them to follow their paths: college or not. This is the same guy talking here who called Trump "an opioid" a few years ago. I remember when Pence would bristle at some of Trump's entanglements with porn stars, etc. and then defend him. We remember how things ended between Pence and Trump at the Capitol. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen to JD.
Never Trumpers show up everywhere. You say you did t do the DEI dance in your class but we don’t know the truth. Maybe you are paying prostitutes, watching porn and cheating on your spouse. We don’t know the truth. I am not taking your word for it. Vance is speaking the truth. Victor Davis Hanson agrees and I will take his academic opinion over yours any day.
I did not vote for Trump in 2016, I not vote for Hilary, either. When Trump won, I shrugged and gave him a chance, It did seem, for the irst six months that Trump was the dog who caught the car. But it also seems to me that he had no support in either party, and that both were trying to keep him from doing what he promised to.
His conclusing remark is absolutely chilling. :( Disagree, bring up issues, fight for change, but do not hate! We are all citizens of the same country (including "Professors")! Make education affordable, merit-based and ideology-free, do not get rid of it!!! Inam higely dissappointed with JD! He could lead and make a real difference instead of inciting hate and leaving the audience with this aweful "wise" reference...
he and his wife went to Yale law and he is talking against university? The question is why would he talk against it? Peter Thiel his mentor has this view so will US be run by Thiel Or Vance?
Our School system has been gutted and all it remains is a place for young people to gather and be supervised whilst mom and dad are working. When I graduated from high School I was prepared to get a job; today a four year degree at a university is paramount to get a good job. But the need for an education is very real. Uneducated people have a very limited future and we need educated people to have a good society. If one wishes to demonize universities, one must have a plan to improve the quality of education schools provide, and one has to be ready to attract the best people to teach our kids, and this requires a decent salary and working conditions. I went to public schools and in my opinión the we're the best in the world. I know because I imigrated from Perú in my school years and I have a Masters degree in Engineering. The worst aspect of universities today is that they have became a business and that is fundamentaly wrong. Not everything gets better under a for profit régime; some fields should not be for profit like education and medicine. But by no means should we demonize education, we must improve it.
I wonder how he developed his ability to think “differently?” Could that have been a product of the university? Hmmm. Also, I recommend reading “On Tyranny,” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a very short book with a big message on our current conditions. UA-cam also has an ebook version.
I thought about some of the great American leaders, religious thinkers and I chose to end this speech by using the wisdom of Richard Nixon. Congratulations JD, you’ve earned a doctorate in kowtowing.
Important thing to keep in mind: the media often distort scientific discoveries. If you see something in the news, please don’t blame the scientists for it.
What did the fascists leaders of Europe in the 1930’s and the early 1940’s do to college professors, or is that more history we should deny and ignore?
@jmw402 ah, the tired trope of invoking Hitler when it had zero correlation. Today’s universities are echo chambers of toxic neoliberalism and intolerant of competing view points. In fact, your point about how the Nazi’s attempted to remove university professors in the 1930s for fear of competing view points is actually the same behavior the universities are engaged with.
This is what we should be afraid of. It's not that they haven't learned from history. They are using history as a blueprint to recreate it. Gross and scary!
It’s true! Universities pretty much train the minds of their students I have one UCLA son and one UOFA son. They are working now, and I’m sure you can figure out where their voting lies!
JD, great speech! What college students used to love about the college experience were the endless hours of discussing philosophy, religion, & politics amongst their peers while listening to music and perhaps imbibing illegal substances, so it was never about “the professors” to begin with. Students learned from their shared experiences with others who were gathered in that time and place from diverse backgrounds beyond their familiar communities. Professors merely administer the syllabus/outline of curriculum, but it was always the students who enriched themselves and by extension, the universities. Nothing screams patriarchy louder than giving a few 40+ year old life-long college students a path to avoid the struggles of the real working class by giving them authority over the futures of those who strive higher and better for themselves and the world. The only human specimen to be found more selfish & lazy than such professors are life-long politicians like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, et al, who until their last lazy breath will claim that sucking the life and money out of people is for the greater good, because after all, they and their congregation are stupid enough to believe it. The sub-intellectual political class has to go.
and this is why we lose the culture war, JD a smart man ! however he dresses like he's from the 1950s, trying to address the remaining boomers, giving boring speeches with ties and boring suits ! too bad because he does have great ideas
Vence is correct. I'm an official state interpreter and was asked to interpret for diplomat from South America at a local university, who did nothing but belittle and lie about our country. It got so bad, I refused to continue interpreting and left in protest.
I took two years at a community College in CA. But I waited a year before applying to get my philosophy AA. In that time Newsome signed some law that requires me now to take a Diversity class before I'm eligible to graduate. What a con job.
Anyone who tells you this is not being honest with you. Don't listen to what they say; watch what they do. Did he go to Yale Law? Did he meet his wife there?
Extraordinary.. A future leader who cares deeply about science, scientific research, innovation.. Hopefully the young generation of America is truly motivated to continue to be the best
@5:50 approx. the story of the ‘Professor’ saying a.i. will replace ‘teachers’ is an example of the meanness so called ‘educators’ all to often become. #1 the study seemed intentionally aimed to disturb, not enhance. #2 the response was also uneven, Only because the ‘educators’ were among those threatened did the response become overwhelmingly gang tackled. #3 the apology was also disturbingly unauthentic. There is definitely a skewed slant in some subjects and educators, not All but enough.this must be corrected.
I would like someone without a Yale degree to preach against colleges. This is what has been termed a "luxury belief." The fact is, he got to politics partially because of the very degree he derides. Is this not just a bit hypocritical? The fact is, too many people need university degrees to get ahead. Science oriented professionals actually benefit both from formal university studies and the socialization that comes from attendance at those universities. I am just a school teacher and have homeschooled my children at times, but what is his solution? Enough complaining.
He does have an impressive story. He's a very comfortable public speaker. I just think that Trump and Vance are still attempting to sell " trickle down economics. Bill Clinton recently cited stats indicating much greater jobs have been created under Democratic presidential administrations. So the millionaire/billionaire classes are not creating jobs which is a common justification for tax cuts for the wealthiest class within the USA. What are your thoughts on this?
What a message of truth! I pray that JD with his obvious intellect and moral center will soon be our Vice President! Spread the word! #Trump/Vance 2024
@@Jordan-mn2ty Which has led to unrestrained think tanks and right/left influencers.. So yeah, technically you're right but it's more a cause than the result. We are an idiocracy now as a result of the past.
vance is satanist himself. he came up with idea that ukrainian children without electricity are responsible for us border problem. children of 11 years can leasr about slavery or play histrory but they should learn world history too then. if you are proud of founding fathers or achievements of scientists you can be ashamed of slavery too
I heard you point the problem at teachers, who learned what they are teaching from liberal teachers 20 years ago and at students who can't/don't want to avoid school. I think the issues are the curriculums/book approval systems.
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ― Isaac Asimov
J.D. Vance explains his self-development / coming of age over the past 4 years or so, in appropriate detail. ALSO - Basically explains why Trump could rely on him to carry the banner as VP this time wisely chosen, and not to appeal to a base with little understanding of what it takes.
What he says is the definition of fascism. Attacking a whole category of people who have generated the very knowledge that makes society work, cure diseases, create and run machines and technology, understand the law and the importance of the rule of law and explore history and art as gifts to humanity.
This is not conservatism. This is fascism.
Before I went to university, I was making $15.00 an hour. I make $55.00 an hour after my university education.
@chrisdorman-c5r i went to Metropolitan State University in Minnesota. I got a degree in nursing.
“The professors are the enemy” sounds like something Mao would have said during the Chinese cultural revolution. Pointing out destructive and ineffective policies is a must. Passionate and respectful debate is needed. Demonizing people and groups of people always leads down a dark and counter-productive path.
@neilhollands2750 Your point is that Universities provide equal or multiple perspectives. That’s JD’s point that they have become echo chambers of monolithic neoliberalism. They are intolerant of alternative views and even promote scorn for dissension. jD is not advocating for the dissolution of universities but a course correction to make them less corrupt and back to their original purposes
Witch-hunt on liberal professors awaits if he becomes vice president.
If a speaker uses an Appeal to Fear, they may have a point, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. But once a speaker tells me who my "Enemies" are, I'm out. I've seen this one.
@@neilhollands2750 Very well said. Thank you.
@@Gooogle6565 Yes
Universities train engineers, surgeons + many other valuable professionals. They help people change careers, learn languages, create new technologies, build & maintain infrastructure. They provide the opportunity for people from different backgrounds to learn about each other's experiences and exchange ideas. Universities aren't perfect but they are very vital.
Attacking a université is attacking knowledge of advancement which Republicans don't want because they want to control you if you don't have knowledge to think.
You missed the point. The suggestion isn’t that the universities never do anything of any value. Rather, that universities been captured by an insulated, elitist zeitgeist that’s opposed to the interests of most Americans. In the name of social justice, they fray society and signal their virtue, without actually helping real people in need. In the name of science, they discard data about a global pandemic to push their political agenda instead. To a large majority of students, college doesn’t equip them with the skills to succeed in life, but rather saddles them with debt for a job that could be done by someone without a degree.
@@noahboughdy2648 not at my university, bub.
Right now they're shit.
@@scotttownsend8297 'bub'
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I was very lucky having had fantastic professors in middle and high school in Nairobi, Kenya, and later at university in South Africa.
I include here what I had written on the behalf of one of them, being most unusual in the academic environment at that time, but I would say for now.
PRAISE TO A "TEACHER"
(The sixth and final year at the "Prince of Wales" boarding school, Nairobi, Kenya. Year 1957)
We waited for our "Literature" teacher at class time. When he finally arrived, he apologized for being late and he said he was in a meeting to explain a new idea of his. He told us that he had decided to stop teaching us the usual texts.
We were left speechless!
To our perplexities, instead of giving explanations, he asked two questions ...
At the rows to his right, he asked which of us knew Karl Marx …….
after the surprise, one asked where this person lived.
At the rows to his left, he asked who knew Adam Smith …...
one immediately asked if this guy was English or American.
Rubbing his chin, he just said "oh!"
Then he went on to tell us that he understood of our ignorance, despite of our intelligence.
He pointed out that by the end of the year, many of us would be going to university or other destinations, and we knew very little about the current situation in the world. (For example, that in the previous year there was an invasion of Budapest by Russian tanks.)
"My job will be to teach you how to learn on your own, and I will follow you throughout the term."
Then, pointing his finger at me, he said "John*, you will be the coordinator of your half and you will go to the library to research all about Karl Marx." Pointing his finger at Bill* on the left, he told him, that he will be the coordinator of the other half to research all about Adam Smith. Every week we should notify him about our results or problems.
In the fifth week, he checked if we had enough knowledge to present what we had found, and with our positive response, a new surprise arrived.
"You will have to convince the other group of the validity of what is proposed in YOUR research, compared to the OTHER."
I therefore asked him the question ... "How can we compare our research vs theirs if we don't know what the other is proposing?"
He just replied ... "John, you're on the right track, get busy, and let me know when you are ready!"
Our group, after another four weeks, advised that we were ready, while the other asked for the following week. (If they had spent that week to find the negative points proposed by K.M. (as we did for A.S.) the result would have certainly changed. Updated 2019)
The presentation was very interesting, having given a part, to each student in the group the task of presenting it, and Bill did the same.
The group won for the presentation for Karl Marx!
( Privately, I asked the teacher why he had chosen ME to propose Karl Marx, since after studying both ideas, I preferred those of Adam Smith. His reply was that he expected this of me, because I always used logic and not emotions as many do, and wished me not to change in the future. But we also learned from this teacher that one should always be open to listening to all the points made by others, and only then evaluate. )
What the fuck kind of a word salad is this
Is it the University or who funds the University?
Good point
Universities have massive endowments and are ideologically beholden to their staff and administration. They have become a toxic echo chamber and activists
No, it’s the alumni who funds the university, as well as the state
Roflmao
Those who fund universities ARE the universities
Keeping conservative children out of universities is only going to make this worse. University leaders will hear fewer dissenting views, and trade workers will be overwhelmingly conservative. Having genuine conversations between people of different ideologies will be even harder, and it’s already hard enough. So hard that we had Jan 6 rioters at the Capitol and a shooter at a Trump rally. As a college student from a liberal family, I value the interactions I’ve had with conservative students. It would be a shame if they were all kept away by parents who are too afraid of universities to send their kids to one.
Well said. You have some very clear views.
Going to a university is the springboard from which I figured how to learn on my own. Independent study. Private meditation.
You are on the right track to find TRUTH!
Why am I seeing " Comments 8" and then find only 4 comments? Have 4 of the 8 been deleted already?
Shadow banning and comment suppression. 4 other ppl were shadow banned. Probably said something on a legacy media video / channel about the election or C-VlD
…Most likely by the speech police.
I see what you are doing
Funny that Vance praised Universities and credited himself going to University as enabling him to pull himself out of poverty...
....But once he's able to climb that ladder and get on Trumps team, suddenly Universities are bad?
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Universities are only good in the sense he can pretend he's for education. He's planning on "ripping apart everything like a tumor" to install a new dictatorship in America! Weild the power as he says! Sneak in an rip apart democracy to give power to elite dictators like Elon and Trump and all the stars of MAGA. Republican and conservative ARE NO MORE! THEY ARE GOING TO WEILD POEER AS DICTATORS TO CHANGE America to an all elite ruling class!
Universities also teach critical thinking skills which is the antithesis of Authoritarian leaders.
@derekarnold3665 lol! Hope this is sarcasm because it’s 100% false. Universities are a toxic monolithic echo chamber of neoliberal thought. They are intolerant of competing view points
Universities are meant to teach critical thinking. Problem is, they do just the opposite.
Is that what they’re doing?
Yes kiddo its what universities teach. @@ourlegacylectures8937
I'm 80 and just now lerning about our horrible history, as we keep doing horrible things around the world.
Nobody is perfect. Compared to other countries, America did so much more good than evil, that it is ridiculous to think about her the way you do.
@@saxelrod94I was born during WW2 and we've been rampaging much of the world since.
@@schott43 You have not lived in the "world". I did. Nobody is perfect, but America did so much more good that our communist opponents who did nothing good at all.
For the love of America and the U.S. Constitution - VOTE BLUE 💙
You lost, twisted sister. Now get smart or get lost. Read the Bible, Aristotle, and canonical writers like William Shakespeare. RFGA, Ph.D.
Looks like they didn’t listen to you 😂
@@bradlee21887 no chance your parents aren't related
Not even American, but I have to agree with everything he says about universities. This isn’t a problem exclusive to U.S. but many western countries
Gosh, JD. Are you turning in your diplomas?
It's very interesting to listen to because every sentence he says contains a logical fallacy, and many statements contain multiple logical fallacies. That's why he wants people to avoid getting an education so they will not notice things like that. This is a wonderful speech to give to the students as homework to identify all logical fallacies in the speech.
Perfect
I would disagree about logical fallacies at least within the first 9 minutes I've gone through so far. I think many issues he raises about how current mindset in Academia, mainly starting with its "leadership" ( who are typically not scientists, or not acclaimed scientists), work should undergo scrutiny for suppressing free speech and freedom of opinion. However, I would point out to the hypocrisy - if you are going to scrutinize the university and essentially demonize them, instead of perhaps, improving their policies and returning to more accepting and open conduct, why not to mention mass media, both left-leaning and, in particular, right-wing and conservative, and your own (JD Vance's) Republican Party! Otherwise, it sounds just like what it really is - an attack on Higher Education and Education in general. Unfortunately, I only hear underlying division and hate in his speech...
@@chrizastenium Hasty Generalization: Asserts that all universities are "very hostile institutions" without providing sufficient evidence to support this sweeping claim.
Appeal to Probability: Assumes that universities control all knowledge and falsity because it would likely be the case.
False Dilemma (Black-and-White Thinking): Presents a binary choice of either attacking universities or failing to achieve goals, ignoring other potential solutions.
Non Sequitur: Assumes that universities control knowledge in society without providing a logical basis for this conclusion. I can continue. There are a few fallacies in most of the sentences. The funniest part is that HE got two worthless degrees for undergrad and then went to Yale Law School.
I have been writing on the topic of the crisis of universities for about thirty years, published a book on the subject in 2005 and, in 2016, another one entitled "The Empty Campus." The fact that still today, despite all that is happening, there is no interest in such analyses is also a symptom of the problem/crisis. Best regards, Sergio Caldarella
You are in good company with other academics like Thomas Sowell and Victor Davis Hanson.
Thank you for your work, sir.
@@TheChadPad, Thank you, I appreciate it.
Vance is dead on...I've been witnessing this sick trend in universities all my academic life. It has bled into most State institutions and now even corporate America.
From the university to the corporation, or vice versa?
Follow the money.
People like him often times have the on the boots experience to solve the problem. Hopefully, he will be able to make some head with the Wokeness.
Yes Marc. Ackman at Harvard finally figured this out just 1 year ago. When I was in high school, 50+ years ago, I was saying that people pay money to send their children to college so they can hate America, hate their parents, and hate God. Then have watched this stupidity for decades. I am encouraged that JD gave this speech, touch of Reagan in terms of saying truths in public that are obvious but others are afraid to say.
Here in Michigan, when looking for a job with the state, most of the time a minimum of a bachelors degree is required for consideration.
@@l.w.paradis2108- One of the problems with the present corporate structure is that either hiring or presentations off people too be hired is in the hands of people with degrees in "human resources". These people in every case present only other people with degrees and avoid people without degrees despite long records of accomplishment.
They don't wait for the University level, they start in Kindergarten, and even preschool.
That’s the reality!
Be alert!
Just like Hamas, the parents in Gaza and Samaria/Judea and UNRWA/UN. They spend the years to teach their children to hate and to use violence to achieve their goal. Lisbeth
No kids at schools!
Critical Pedagogy: Queer Theory: Paulo Freire. 🎉
Correct 🥲
Wait! Some of us are not the enemy, but we are under attack if our conservative views become known to our colleagues or the university administrators. Pray for us.
WE can fully empathize you in your situation. I (Elisa) used to teach at a university in Canada but was cancelled because of the complaints of woke students. But I am happy, and my husband and I are thriving. If God is for us, who can be against us? We have proven God's fsithfulness as we went through the difficulties as a result of the cancellation. But I am so grateful for the change. We are doing business now. 😊🎉❤ #cancelwokeuniversities
"When they came for me, there was no one left to speak."
I have refused or deep sixed million dollar opportunities because I refused to mince my words, and would not align with values I despised. I currently live in a working class, semi rural neighborhood, and have no debt, but do not use credit. I have worked 80+ hour weeks for years, and since I refuse to participate in grift, I have little to show for my efforts.
And I sleep like a baby, have my family and friend's unqualified respect, and have few regrets.
All of that is due to many things, but what put me over the line, in my 20s, was reading The Gulag Archipelago. If you are not willing to sacrifice anything for your principles, they are not principles, and society will decay and be destroyed by tyrants.
Trump can't save us. He is the boy with his finger in the dam. We have to rebuild the dam, once the rains slow down, otherwise the dam will break the next time it rains.
And these folks have a lot of rainmakers.
Jesus is not real. Dead people do not come back to life. Greek mythology had epic poems of gods falling in love with human virgins and producing offspring. When the voice of God says, "YOu are my son," That is ripped off from Greek mythology. Vance has just found Jesus. He was just baptized as a symbol to Leonard Leo, who thinks America needs to return to Christian values and the worship of Jesus Christ the Savior. And the Truth is, Jesus is a Myth and Leo is using "religions that have been proven wrong" to fool Dims like J. D. Vance. (Along with millions of dollars.)
If you speak out, your students will find an ally. Who do you care about more? The students or your own sorry skin? This is your fault too for keeping quiet. I am in university now, and to see that you are the cause of my problem by willingly letting them have the say out of fear for yourselves and to say that I should feel sorry for you is offensive to me. I should feel sorry for you for damning me? Evil wins when good men do nothing. That “men” means humans. That goes for women too.
Boo hooo
He's right. Watching this it's clear why Trump chose him for VP over other more pragmatic options like Nikki Haley or Rubio.
JD Vance graduated from Yale. His Yale colleague urged him to write hillbilly elegy.
But he thought those guys were in sh*ty school… from this speech
Actually, it was Amy Chua, his professor at Yale Uni who encouraged him to expand a paper he wrote for her into a book.
Comments rejecting Vance's message ignore the full impact of the academic world in its totality. Yes, the universities train engineers and surgeons. BUT, that is only a selected facet of universities. In totality, universities transmit values. And, their academic values are foundational content in many majors: English, philosophy, history, sociology, law, feminism...and on! Gender confusion, BLM, WOKE, atheism...and on! At 11:00...Vance gives a clear - and common - example of university politics. Yes, I attended a state university and have followed the changes in the academic world through my life of 70 years.
As a university student, most of what I’ve seen from researchers is a genuine pursuit of truth. I took a research class where we discussed research ethics, focusing on the Jonathan Pruitt case. Pruitt falsified data for many collaborations and was caught after one of his collaborators noticed the data he sent her had many repeat values. All the affected papers were retracted, and Pruitt was asked to leave. Yes, some researchers lie. But other researchers hold them accountable.
I actually took a class that pulled elements of critical race theory. As a one of the only white students in the class, I thought it was a valuable experience. Everyone was nice to me. No one singled me out as an oppressor. I learned to question my beliefs about other people in a way I previously hadn’t thought of. My biggest takeaway was an increased awareness of my own subconscious beliefs. In this class I learned to identify some gut feelings I had and question where they came from. In the class, those were feelings I had that potentially could have been racist. In everyday life, I applied this process of identifying and questioning my unconscious beliefs to… everything. I’m a better critical thinker because of this class. Obviously I wouldn’t want elementary kids learning this before they learn critical thinking. But when it happens, the elementary school teacher is responsible, not the professor who presented her with those ideas. At no point did my professor EVER tell us to teach that class to children.
That being said, I think knowledge should be more accessible outside of universities. Many researchers also think so, and open access journals are becoming more common. Also, university degrees increasingly require courses that aren’t necessary for the technical work a student plans to do after college. Courses that cost time and money. So I’d like to see another option where people can go to a university and only learn what they need. Maybe a BE degree where E stands for “essential”.
@@gingerpickett6958 Pursuit of truth...good. Selecting truth...NOT so good.
@@gardenladyjimenez1257 Respectfully, if I may, as a philosophy professor and former chair of a philosophy department, I don't recognize this sweeping generalization as being true of my experience in the discipline. It is hard to see how I'm transmitting values in any intellectually suspicious or dishonest way in my logic course, or when I'm teaching Plato or Descartes or Hume or Aquinas or Quine (etc); the same holds in for my philosophy of science course and epistemology course. While I do cover arguments for atheism in my intro class (two specifically), I also cover no fewer than four arguments on the other side. Their omission would be a disservice to the history of philosophy.
Perhaps values are reflected in my selection of philosophy from the Western canon, but that's my training and what I was hired to teach; I typically acknowledge that this focus possibly omits important ideas from other traditions, but you can only cover so much in 14 weeks anyway, so profs have to make discretionary decisions about what to include.
As chair I had access to student evaluations of my colleagues and not once was there a comment to the effect that my faculty were exhibiting any kind of pernicious ideological bias (note I live in a very red area of a quite red state),. In fact, in over a decade of reviewing tenure files from professors in the humanities (which include student evaluations), I've not come across complaints of this nature, which isn't to say they don't exist and aren't credible in some cases, but I await evidence that this is a real and widespread problem. Students complain about too much reading, grumpy profs, boring classes, having to purchase a book for the class, or draconian attendance policies, but not about idealogical matters ("woke-ism" etc); one exception was a student once complained that my reading list for my philosophy of science class wasn't "diverse enough" in terms of the demographics of the authors (not the actual content).
I don't know what goes on in English departments or even other philosophy departments, but my experience with (analytic) philosophers is that they are suspicious of agendas and eager to challenge received wisdom, as opposed to propagating dogma or indoctrination. This was my experience as an undergrad at a state school in NC, a graduate student at two universities (IN and FL), and as faculty at two universities (one private, one public).
@@brianh4625 This discussion in totality must rely on info from many different segments of the academic world. It must include generalizations that do not apply in each and every case. My major was English Ed, my husband's Political Science, and our children - business marketing/engineering. I personally experienced in the late 60's the pollution of course content with ideological banalities.
My favorite from a "women's studies" class - objection to men objectifying women (strippers) and celebration of women as exotic dancers. I had to ask the professor. Exotic dancers? Strippers with feathers and glitter who shed their clothes with less bumping/grinding. :)
Caution...students who might encounter ideological dogma are much LESS likely to report it to professors or university personnel. The "Cancel Culture" will take care of them. They may also lessen their chance for advancement in the academic community.
It sounds like your experience has not included the dogma. That is good news. I appreciate your thoughtful comments.
@ Understood, and I appreciate your perspective. I also don’t question your report of your experiences. I’ll just add that student assessments of instruction are anonymous and students know this, so I just assume (perhaps erroneously) that if a student is willing to come to me personally to report a concern of a professor being a little too personal in office hours, they’d have no trouble anonymously reporting perceived ideological bias in the classroom. Admittedly that’s an assumption and some students are more forthcoming than others. I’m thankful that I don’t work at a university where cancel culture is a credible threat. I have every reason to believe my colleagues accept the responsibility that comes along with academic freedom (with, perhaps, the exception of the overly friendly professor I mentioned).
I have two Bachelor's degrees. One (a BA) from the 1980's, one (a BS) from the 2020's. In neither one did I get indoctrinated into socialism.
That being said, I've never been interested in politics. I study it now because I'm an analytical personality - I refuse to make decisions based on the opinions of others. I want to understand things based on my analysis, and that takes time and energy.
The world has gone sideways so hard that, as a 59-year-old, I do not recognize it anymore. So to understand what is going on, I study, and study, and study. As a result of my analysis, our culture (and many others) are working in concert (both intentionally and unintentionally) to push the world into a Neo Marxist framework. And this movement is extremely well funded.
And yes, quite a bit of that came from particular universities, particular programs, and particular teachers. So those students who were interested in politics or the "liberal arts" were fed heaping helpings of anti-capitalist and pro-socialist messaging.
My point is that every university is different, every program within every university is different, every teacher is different, and every student's goals and interests are different. So I think blanket statements of saying "universities" are fundamentally corrupt is a fallacy. It's the same fallacy as saying that there is systemic racism by cherry-picking examples of racism in certain communities. Those communities don't represent ALL communities. Nor do universities or their teachers represent ALL universities and their teachers.
I think there are socialist-leaning professors, programs, and universities, and there are socialist-inclined (or empty-minded) students who have no critical thinking skills to work out what makes sense vs what does not.
That being said, there is far more Neo Marxism in universities (and now in public schools) that I would have ever guessed prior to 2020. Neo Marxism is a nihilistic cocktail of postmodernism (French) and Critical Theory (German) and all their variants, with a poststructuralist (deconstructive) motive -- targeting our empty-minded groupthink culture.
All power always tends, to corrupt. 16:46 mins the greatest country there has ever been... !!!!! Then again two rights, don't make a wrong..........................
I believe they are good pair for America. They will feed each other (so to speak).
He definitely makes sense to me. His words are true!
Wow! How did you learn how to make such a cogent argument?
This guy is EXACTLY the Big Brain and thinker that Trump needs to secure your great and blessed nation!
And friends like Oren Cass are even MORE vital..
What joy and hope they offer.
Stay close to Jesus guys! The world relies on much of what youll be inheriting!
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great meme man
I wonder how he developed that “big brain!” University?
He is brainwashed or a coward and probably you are too.
As a retired academic, I question if Mr. Vance had ever set foot in the graduate school of an university. His JD from Yale Law School would not really impress too many seasoned academics!
Yale is as famous as Harvard 1701 n 1637 so I think that’s a silly argument as far as legitimacy .
Yes, a law degree is a craft, not an academic degree. Lots of memorization.
Thank you Republicans for Making American Common Sense Common Again. Please continue to Make America Makes Sense Again. JOHN FURY
I am researching info to learn who JD VANCE WAS IS AND CAN BE.
AMAZING AND QUITE IMPRESSIVE THUS FAR TO COMPLIMENT TRUMP IN THE NEEDS WE FACE COMING UP.
WOULD FOLLOW BOTH REGARDLESS OF COMING ELECTION RESULTS.
"Lies" is such a negative word. In academe, let's use the word "hyperbole": words that evoke strong feelings or reactions in the audience, often by making things sound much bigger, better, smaller, worse, or more unusual than they actually are. It's what we do in politics, solicit the support of people who aren't critical thinkers. There are almost 4000 degree-granting institutions in the U.S., and to say, "universities are fundamentally corrupt" or "professors are the enemy", is crowd-pleasing hyperbole! As a former university president, I'm embarrassed to learn that what a U.S. V.P. candidate acquired from his education is merely myopic and negative. J.D. Vance is a gifted communicator who has learned that a certain element in our society enjoys articulated censure. Fortunately, not all of us sink to that level.
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This was my introduction to Vance, and there was literally nothing that he said I could disagree with. And I am a 40+ year veteran of a prestigious public university. But in critiquing the decaying university, I think a distinction has to be made between the rot going on in humanities, and the really significant and good work our colleagues in the sciences are doing. And, by the way, the university counts on those departments paying their own bills by research grants its distinguished faculty routinely get and deserve. There are, to be sure, good people in the humanities who care deeply about teaching and honest "critical thinking," but then ... the -isms. In short, I think Mr. Vance was an excellent choice and I am impressed with him, He speaks as articulately as any Yale Professor.
For context, here is the full Richard Nixon quote: "Never forget, the press is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy; the professors are the enemy. Professors are the enemy. Write that on a blackboard 100 times and never forget it." Funny in the end, Nixon proved to be his own worst enemy.
Also, can't forget this gem from Vance on Facebook years ago: “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler,”
Welcome to American politics. 😦
Spot on, still true. How do we shut down this oligarchy?
I became an electronics engineer without a degree. Because of a high logical IQ, I became successful. Eventually, I moved into project management. I very rapidly became shocked at the inability of degreed engineers that could not accomplish even the simplest tasks. Perhaps I was simply very rapid in understanding problems and solutions, but even over time, one would expect college educated to catch on. Not only did they not, but they protected outright ignorance of each other. I encountered quite a few self-taught engineers, and in most cases, though I was ready to be very critical of them, they were superior to degreed engineers. It is time to examine the fascist and communist policies taught by absolutely incompetent teachers who could not become successful through lack of intelligence and take it out on their students.
How are you with *BASIC* physics?
I have a simple puzzle I wager you cannot solve.
You seem.intelligent but are you a coward? Intelligence without courage can be a sad thing.
I also have a coward test, bet let's see how you are with *BASIC* physics.
A real comedian. You can't even phrase a question in English and believe yourself educated. Since you can not even use your own name, you might very well be one of the incompetent engineers I was forced to lay off because of incompetence so great that it put that company into bankruptcy and stole the money from the investors.
It’s so great to hear someone unashamedly speak the truth. His courage is inspiring! Trump and Vance 2024!
*HE IS A BRAINWASHED AMERICAN OR A COWARD. EITHER WAY, HE HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON HIS FELLOW MARINES. I AM THE SON OF A UNITED STATES MARINE THAT SERVED IN WORLD.WAR II. I SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY FROM 1967 TO 1970.*
Trump speaking the truth, are you blind and deaf? He speaks lies as soon as he opens his mouth, a liar and a fake, adulterer and seductor...
So happy for your calling! I was an educator at two Universities, one in Texas and one in Utah. I loved my job and my students. Today, is another angry group of students. I don't understand their anger against Jewish students! How did that happen while we all watched? Truth and knowledge take a stand in the background, and those thoughts keep me awake at night. I resort to prayers. Education could be a great place to bring truths by studying history and bringing forth the political swings that keep us in fear. God bless.
Heidi H. Treharne
Educator and learners are marxist terms . Derived from life long learner to be soscial man .
Over the last 40 years Liberal Jews liked power so they allowed "utopians" to replace the "free market of ideas" with brainwashing ,"compliance" of thought.
In Canada, the situation is even worse.
The protestors are furious about the Israel GENOCIDE! NETANYAHU says he's the Prime minister of not only Israelis but all Jews around the world! He's causing the rise of antisemitism by saying he represents all Jews! He's a facist mass murdering ductator who lies shamelessly. Thats his Zionist ideology which has nothing to do with Judeism but you can't blame protestors for conflating Judeism with genocidal apartheid terrorist Zionism! It's Netanyahu's fault !
Palestinian students are the ones getting beaten and murdered by pro genocide Jewish Zionists!
I think young people who hadn't lived during World War II had anti Hitler fatigue and just decided to emulate him instead, like the Stockholm syndrome captives. They had no idea of the gut-wrenching reality of life under the Nazi leadership.
This is NOT how I taught my classes at Indiana State University.
This is not how my colleagues taught & teach.
I have two kids: one had a great college outcome, and one didn't go to college, and is serving in the NAVY. I told them to follow their paths: college or not.
This is the same guy talking here who called Trump "an opioid" a few years ago. I remember when Pence would bristle at some of Trump's entanglements with porn stars, etc. and then defend him. We remember how things ended between Pence and Trump at the Capitol. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen to JD.
Never Trumpers show up everywhere. You say you did t do the DEI dance in your class but we don’t know the truth. Maybe you are paying prostitutes, watching porn and cheating on your spouse. We don’t know the truth. I am not taking your word for it. Vance is speaking the truth. Victor Davis Hanson agrees and I will take his academic opinion over yours any day.
He said he didn’t like Trumps at first. He’s been very open about it.
I did not vote for Trump in 2016, I not vote for Hilary, either. When Trump won, I shrugged and gave him a chance, It did seem, for the irst six months that Trump was the dog who caught the car. But it also seems to me that he had no support in either party, and that both were trying to keep him from doing what he promised to.
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@joexactly hnschuh8616
Kudos to Vance. Blessing for his bold challenge thrown at arrogant and anti national academics
Is he going to remove his degree at Yale from his Wikipedia? What he got now is because of his university degree! Do not lie to the people!
Does Vance never name anyone or cite any sources?
His base must understand that those things are important before coming to conclusions on any importantly given topic.
His conclusing remark is absolutely chilling. :( Disagree, bring up issues, fight for change, but do not hate! We are all citizens of the same country (including "Professors")! Make education affordable, merit-based and ideology-free, do not get rid of it!!! Inam higely dissappointed with JD! He could lead and make a real difference instead of inciting hate and leaving the audience with this aweful "wise" reference...
He is so AMAZING! J.D. for POTUS 2028🎉❤
However this man has studied in a university too
the thing is, they do not want others to do so
@@adrianbaezaaraya4388yes the rules are for the little people!!!
Because this man is a hypocrite
@@arturkuleshov5735no because he makes sense
don't hate the player hate the game
he and his wife went to Yale law and he is talking against university? The question is why would he talk against it? Peter Thiel his mentor has this view so will US be run by Thiel Or Vance?
Yes it's THEIR Repressive Tolerance agenda ahead for ALL of us.
Our School system has been gutted and all it remains is a place for young people to gather and be supervised whilst mom and dad are working. When I graduated from high School I was prepared to get a job; today a four year degree at a university is paramount to get a good job. But the need for an education is very real. Uneducated people have a very limited future and we need educated people to have a good society. If one wishes to demonize universities, one must have a plan to improve the quality of education schools provide, and one has to be ready to attract the best people to teach our kids, and this requires a decent salary and working conditions. I went to public schools and in my opinión the we're the best in the world. I know because I imigrated from Perú in my school years and I have a Masters degree in Engineering. The worst aspect of universities today is that they have became a business and that is fundamentaly wrong. Not everything gets better under a for profit régime; some fields should not be for profit like education and medicine. But by no means should we demonize education, we must improve it.
The guy who said that they didn't want their kid to become an hvac specialist is a fool
I am now a fan of JD
This man is brilliant. The best Vice President America could get.
Trump 2024!
And ever had.
Fabulous speech by Vance. True American conservative that I pray becomes the VP for our Great American Leader ~~ Donald J. Trump
J.D. I love you as much as I love Trump. We are so lucky to have you run for VP.
I wonder how he developed his ability to think “differently?” Could that have been a product of the university? Hmmm. Also, I recommend reading “On Tyranny,” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a very short book with a big message on our current conditions. UA-cam also has an ebook version.
glad to see lots of people checking this guy out. I had 0 idea who he was. I have to admit I was really hoping for Tulsi, but I am liking JD
Me too.excited about possibilities this team may accomplish. A balanced ballot for running mate choice.
Wisdom and our true enemy as Americans answered for me in this video. Thank you.
I really like this guy! I think he's going to be a great leader alongside Trump!
Yes! Absolutely correct! Defund Universities!
Yes, let's go to dark ages!
I thought about some of the great American leaders, religious thinkers and I chose to end this speech by using the wisdom of Richard Nixon. Congratulations JD, you’ve earned a doctorate in kowtowing.
JD Vance I remember you being insensitive to Ukraine... because you love conservatives like Russia
Cant wait to purge academia of the Marxists
@LHG 1111 - 😂😂😂 - the J.D.Dunce is Threatened - when people learn then they know more than him 😂😂
@@RedTitan5 Jesus, where did all the neolib 🐑 come from??
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WOW! I am now a conservative for sure. Excellent speech touching on all aspects of our society. Pres Trump has made an excellent choice. ❤
Important thing to keep in mind: the media often distort scientific discoveries. If you see something in the news, please don’t blame the scientists for it.
He is so good I'm 100 % agree with vice president
What did the fascists leaders of Europe in the 1930’s and the early 1940’s do to college professors, or is that more history we should deny and ignore?
@jmw402 ah, the tired trope of invoking Hitler when it had zero correlation. Today’s universities are echo chambers of toxic neoliberalism and intolerant of competing view points. In fact, your point about how the Nazi’s attempted to remove university professors in the 1930s for fear of competing view points is actually the same behavior the universities are engaged with.
This is what we should be afraid of. It's not that they haven't learned from history. They are using history as a blueprint to recreate it. Gross and scary!
Universities in America today are not fulfilling the role that society expects.
It’s true! Universities pretty much train the minds of their students
I have one UCLA son and one UOFA son. They are working now, and I’m sure you can figure out where their voting lies!
Why did you go to university, Dude? What about all the advancements that affect people's lives positively?
This man calls a spade a spade. It has become a rare commodity.
@rareword Just like President Trump.
Why fast forward this???
Explains his policy ideas.
JD, great speech! What college students used to love about the college experience were the endless hours of discussing philosophy, religion, & politics amongst their peers while listening to music and perhaps imbibing illegal substances, so it was never about “the professors” to begin with. Students learned from their shared experiences with others who were gathered in that time and place from diverse backgrounds beyond their familiar communities. Professors merely administer the syllabus/outline of curriculum, but it was always the students who enriched themselves and by extension, the universities. Nothing screams patriarchy louder than giving a few 40+ year old life-long college students a path to avoid the struggles of the real working class by giving them authority over the futures of those who strive higher and better for themselves and the world. The only human specimen to be found more selfish & lazy than such professors are life-long politicians like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, et al, who until their last lazy breath will claim that sucking the life and money out of people is for the greater good, because after all, they and their congregation are stupid enough to believe it. The sub-intellectual political class has to go.
and this is why we lose the culture war, JD a smart man ! however he dresses like he's from the 1950s, trying to address the remaining boomers, giving boring speeches with ties and boring suits ! too bad because he does have great ideas
@@orangefield2308 halfwit take
What about the professors at Yale that invited students to their homes???
This is a terrifying harbinger of what's to come. I can't believe we're here again.
Vence is correct. I'm an official state interpreter and was asked to interpret for diplomat from South America at a local university, who did nothing but belittle and lie about our country. It got so bad, I refused to continue interpreting and left in protest.
Thank you for having the guts for standing up for your beliefs and for our great country❤❤
you fought hard to get to Yale!
I took two years at a community College in CA. But I waited a year before applying to get my philosophy AA. In that time Newsome signed some law that requires me now to take a Diversity class before I'm eligible to graduate. What a con job.
Heartening analysis
Do you really call that an analysis?
Anyone who tells you this is not being honest with you. Don't listen to what they say; watch what they do. Did he go to Yale Law? Did he meet his wife there?
Not all who holds Ph.D/s are wise. JD was right. Diplomas do not give one an authority to go against wisdom and common sense.
But he went to Yale Law.
No mention of Trump University ?
Right on! 👏👏👏👏👏
Completely agree, 🙏
Extraordinary.. A future leader who cares deeply about science, scientific research, innovation.. Hopefully the young generation of America is truly motivated to continue to be the best
Usha Vance has the chance to do the funniest thing in the history of comedy rn
@5:50 approx. the story of the ‘Professor’ saying a.i. will replace ‘teachers’ is an example of the meanness so called ‘educators’ all to often become. #1 the study seemed intentionally aimed to disturb, not enhance. #2 the response was also uneven, Only because the ‘educators’ were among those threatened did the response become overwhelmingly gang tackled. #3 the apology was also disturbingly unauthentic. There is definitely a skewed slant in some subjects and educators, not All but enough.this must be corrected.
I would like someone without a Yale degree to preach against colleges. This is what has been termed a "luxury belief." The fact is, he got to politics partially because of the very degree he derides. Is this not just a bit hypocritical?
The fact is, too many people need university degrees to get ahead. Science oriented professionals actually benefit both from formal university studies and the socialization that comes from attendance at those universities. I am just a school teacher and have homeschooled my children at times, but what is his solution? Enough complaining.
Great speech and nothing but the truth. Well done to JD Vance.
Thank you to make to hear and to listen to
Vance is intelligent and eloquent--a perfect balance for Trump!
WOW!! A fully functional human being who cares about what matters, AND fears God!!! Are you sure he's a politician? 🤩
Absolutely stunning
Please see documentary: The Occupation of the American Mind.
Very based nod to buchanan. I noticed echoes of the culture war speech 22:55
JD is an amazing speaker and thinker.
He does have an impressive story. He's a very comfortable public speaker. I just think that Trump and Vance are still attempting to sell " trickle down economics. Bill Clinton recently cited stats indicating much greater jobs have been created under Democratic presidential administrations. So the millionaire/billionaire classes are not creating jobs which is a common justification for tax cuts for the wealthiest class within the USA. What are your thoughts on this?
It's about power alright, and JD wants it for himself. Keep the people ignorant and poor
What a message of truth! I pray that JD with his obvious intellect and moral center will soon be our Vice President! Spread the word! #Trump/Vance 2024
Great speech indeed. And, yes, he IS going to be your VP!
I pray that you will be in the white house next year
Yes! If we want to strengthen the electrical grid, we need to make sure no electrical engineers graduate! Great idea for America!
We are an idiocracy. This video confirms it.
No idiocracy is global neoliberalism
@@Jordan-mn2ty Which has led to unrestrained think tanks and right/left influencers.. So yeah, technically you're right but it's more a cause than the result. We are an idiocracy now as a result of the past.
He is absolutely correct .
I’m vote for Trump Vance 2024❤🎉🎉🎉
vance is satanist himself. he came up with idea that ukrainian children without electricity are responsible for us border problem. children of 11 years can leasr about slavery or play histrory but they should learn world history too then. if you are proud of founding fathers or achievements of scientists you can be ashamed of slavery too
Ok, let’s be real here. It’s not because universities promote dishonesty. It’s because people at universities tend to be more liberal.
Yes, pray for wisdom!
I heard you point the problem at teachers, who learned what they are teaching from liberal teachers 20 years ago and at students who can't/don't want to avoid school. I think the issues are the curriculums/book approval systems.
Very well said Mr.Senator JD Vance.I personally happened to us our family and I agree 100/!
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
― Isaac Asimov
J.D. Vance explains his self-development / coming of age over the past 4 years or so, in appropriate detail. ALSO - Basically explains why Trump could rely on him to carry the banner as VP this time wisely chosen, and not to appeal to a base with little understanding of what it takes.
Well said Senator Vance. I went through a university in the 1980s. It was bad then, and even worse now.