Libby had head trauma ,probably never saw it coming, especially if it was in her own bedroom... that's where the evidence is pointing... the rest is the cover up?
@@williamrae9954I haven't heard about this! It started in her bedroom?? No. Her and Abby were lucid and having fun on the bridge. That makes no sense.
I know! How terrifying! Looking back and forth to each other for comfort, then having to witness what is happening to each other! 😢😮 Those girls did not deserve that! 🙏They went for a fun hike! This just mortified me at the savagery, brutality and sheer terror that they experienced! It still brings tears to my eyes as I'm typing this comment! 😢🥺
Chris, thanks so much for your viewpoint into this case. It has been the easiest and least confusing to follow and make sense. For some reason, this case has given me so much uneasy feelings every time I have tried to read or listen to anything about it since it happened. There is something just very evil with it.
Me too, IF he did it. I wish there was actually some conclusive evidence... I can't stand the idea of the person who hurt those girls just living free when they weren't given the same opportunity 😢
RA complained about his conditions. Wait till he returns. Unlikely he will have it that good. It’s just a matter of time that he’ll be placed in general population.
@@cjb2749 Absolutely. I hate that there is the smallest possibility that there could still be someone out there. This case has stuck in my head for years, which is vary rare for me.
@@rossydv I know. I often wonder why when I hear of these cases. ? We are “ normal “ thinking people. So we don’t understand and never will. I wonder if he had done this before ? Had he tried several times but missed opportunities ? Had he been out there under the bridge before ? I guess we will never know. When I hear of these horrific cases , the neighbors and acquaintances will say “ just a normal everyday guy , nothing suspicious or out of the ordinary “. Hiding in plain sight.
@@SadPuppySoupyes. I always thought that the photo was Libby’s grandfather. Not that I thought he had anything to do with it but I thought a witness had seen him while he was trying to find the girls.
my ex-stepfather was thought to be him based on that video, and he was even picked up because he also matched the more detailed sketch. He is pretty nondescript when you look at the surrounding community.
There are so many unanswered questions. If he did do it, I'd hoped he would explain his superhuman speed. In 19 minutes, he apparently abducted the girls, forced them across a creek, undressed Libby, had Abby put on some of Libby's clothing. Then he slashes her throat and, at the same time, somehow stopped the other girl from screaming or running. Then he is supposedly spooked by a van and decides he needs to get out of there but still takes the time to arrange some sticks on the girls' bodies that do nothing to conceal them. In short, the prosecution's theory makes absolutely no sense
You do realize that by the time he made the confessions he had the discovery. Also it isnt uncommon for the cops to feed people information and try and twist it around to say he knew things only the killer would know.
Judges shouldn't be allowed to deny the public from seeing court proceedings especially high profile cases like this one. Its as bad as the police having a mute button on their body cams
Oh wow. I would like to see how you all do in solitary confinent for over a year, gtfo, 😂. . You all would do fine in Communist Russia or N Korea with this type of thinking. To hold somebody in solitary confinement for over a year. The human mind can only take 15 days. You all don't even know that this is a violation of our civil rights when it comes to due process. That's what makes our system better, due process. It's also against international law to hold somebody that long in solitary, against soldiers, much less civilians. Learn Geneva Convention and read your Constitution. Good grief
@@mjbeezer Except he wasn’t in solitary confinement, just in a space commonly used as such. This guy got pampered, he was not cut off from human contact and he got to call his family whenever he wanted. Thats not solitary confinement. But I agree, he should have been put in gen pop and be dealt with swiftly. This guy deserves the DP.
@@crimnclove1970Exactly! It's the lack of human contact that makes people go crazy. Ricky didn't start going crazy until AFTER he started confessing to his wife and mother with details that only the killer would know.
This case is horrific all around. Those beautiful young ladies deserve justice. What has been given to the public is a dog and pony show. But those girls were murdered! This is sick.
When did he have time for both to be undressed. Have Abby washed and wearing Libby's clothes. Then he decides not to R them, killing them instead. What was his plan on R ing one girl? What was his plan for the other girl?? Did he think while he was assaulting one girl that the other would just stand there waiting to be next?? It doesn't make sense to me.
I've been following this case almost 8 years. I'm so glad that the jury made the right decision and God allowed them to open up their eyes to see the truth. Those girls did not deserve horrific crimes did they had to endure right before they passed away in their young lives. So I don't want to hear about what went on with Richard Allen and what happened to him. It's all about the girls not him 🙏🙏💜🦋💙 By the way i always love listening to your videos and sharing them on the Delphi case Thank you for all you do you are appreciated.
I adore the recap platform that you have made so relevant!! But I think this one deserves more than just recap. I know at least two other videos that you guys did. If you ever thought about doing a deep dive, maybe make this case the one you do it on.
Noooooo! Jury did not convict him on confessions! They spent many hours over 3-4 days on the timeline and who could have been there and the circumstances that create the puzzle to solve showing nobody else was there or could have done that! Some of RAs early confessions had details only the perpetrator would know as only police knew about the van and throats cut and this creep placed himself there calling police to offer he was there after seeing himself in that bridge guy video; trying to throw cops off or taunt! He WAS bridge guy and others proved that over a year ago both with stature and voice analysis! The jury believed he was bridge guy too! Spot on! No conspiracy to frame this perp! His guilty conscience got to him knowing he was public enemy nr1 for a sex crime against children! Jury got it right without the public conspiracy mob!
There was no statue or vioce Analysist done..no witness said bridge guy was richard allen..the van was known for a long time by people..there was no dna von allen..thete was hairs that were not testet and other suspects
@artvandelayRFC I stand corrected. I just found out that, yes, RA did contact the cops after the bridge guy still was released to the public (I did not know the cops had that video so soon afterwards). I've been following this since it first happened in 2017. Horrific crime. It just seems like a dodgy police investigation and odd that they didn't investigate RA right away.
When the bridge guy photo was released. I think Richard was worried that the public would tell police they think it's him. So to get out front of that, he decided to phone in a tip saying he was there. I think the second time was after he had received the Bible from his mom and the guilt got to him. He confessed the first time long before he started acting nutty. The jury did good, they got the right guy. Richard A is where he deserves to be. Case closed.
because of timestamps and the voice recording. All I have to do it click a file on my phone, and I can get the info on when it was taken/recorded. It's a default phone feature.
To my knowledge, they never did prove that the person in the video was the killer and the way it was described, (I watched Andrea burkhart's retelling of watching the video in court) it sounds fishy, the "enhancement" hmmm. And, how can someone get over to the girls in that quickly (43 seconds, I believe) in order to get the voice recording. That, along with soooo many other things, give me tons of reasonable doubt 😢
Are we to believe the video and audio are in synch at the time of the BG video? Like he's saying those words as he's walking toward them. There is a lot more in those 43 precious seconds.
you don't know how many people actually reached out, because that's not pertinent to the case (unless you get so many the sheer volume hits the news, see the Elizabeth Short case for example). They picked up and questioned several people, one I knew personally (the only thing in the detailed sketched that doesn't match is the style of hat, and his voice doesn't match to my ear).
I have been waiting for this post! I know I can trust you to drown out the noise & give us the real story. But my heart hurts for the girls & their families, their last moments were horrific, thank god for the truck.
Actually, the jurors weren't aware of a lot of relevant information. The judge categorically ruled out any evidence that might point to a third party. He has the right to present alternate suspects.
It was not a chunk of hair. A single hair no root likely from Libby's family. But I mean the girls were best friends hanging out at each other's home. How does a single hair turn into a "chunk of hair" ?
@milano888 Please stop with the misinformation because it's VERY DISRESPECTFUL to the girls and their families! The killer is behind bars and HAS been convicted by a jury of his peers.
@Almneurthey didn't say they want him free. They said they want a fair trial-something we ALL would want if we were accused of a crime. Something every American is entitled to. No one wants actual murderers to walk free. But we should all want to ensure innocent people won't be punished for crimes they didn't commit and to ensure the true murderer is caught/locked up. No one here is defending anyone they believe is a murderer. Everyone agrees we want true justice to be served.
I think they assumed the girls had most likely fallen off the Monon bridge so were searching the wrong location. I really don't know. Many problems with this case.
Hi Chris and Amy! I feel so bad for those two young girls. I know they were absolutely scared out of their wits. So sad. But I do feel like the jury got it right. And if he has a miserable existence, he brought that on himself. ❤️💜💚
This is bizarre. The guy had no history of abusive behaviour or evidence of interest in girls then decides to kill two girls in broad daylight when things could easily go wrong. He makes confessions but had access to the court papers. Either way it was horrible and those poor girls would have been terrified. Hopefully he was the killer because if he wasn’t whoever did do it is still out there and could do it again
The police intentionally ignored 911 call that came in reporting screams in that area early in the morning. There’s definitely something going on with this case. I have no clue what but there’s too many things that have ignored. Intentionally that just don’t make any sense. look into this case for yourself because we could all be in RICHARD Allen‘s place if they want to on someone, this is what they’re doing to him. They can do it because people don’t look into things for themselves. If you don’t agree with this that’s fine, but please just look into it for yourself
@@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions Yep, was mentioned in this video. I think he is guilty. Saying something that Chris mentioned isnt going to change my mind. In fact, dont even bother trying. I have my opinion, you have yours😊
Can people please stop reporting that RA took picture of his daughter at the bridge after the crimes were committed? He took the picture years before. His daughter is in her 30s now and they were high school photos.
For the first time in a very long time & in 1000's of cases, I'm not convinced he did it. I absolutely get that their parents & the town need answers, need someone to blame, but I'd have thought it better to wait on this one. They keep saying he said things only the murderer would have known, but the police had been filling him up with the info while questioning him. Not to mention all the material evidence related to investigating other possible perpetrators that the defence wasn't even allowed to tell the jury (& so much more). I'm so sorry to Abi & Libby, their parents, family & friends, town & neighbours, and the rest of the curious folk, but I truly don't think this is resolved
I haven't followed like many of you but I'm hearing from si many on various channels they don't think he did it and was coerced...If this is true and the only evidence is a possible false confession due to extreme duress then I definitely would like to see him granted an appeal and get a new trial...Hopefully the truth will come out and either set him free or reconvict...Bottom line, justice is not served if the wrong man is behind bars...
By Richard Allen’s own testimony he was at the scene of the crime at the time of the crime and dressed like the guy that committed the crime ? Why did he even tell his wife he was on the trail that day but never made it to the bridge ? But he told law enforcement he was on the bridge for and hour and a half watching fish ?🙄. Even his wife was surprised by his testimony and told Richard that’s not what he told her ? That’s the only reason he came forward.
I've been following this story for years now and I STILL can't make up my mind. I can see points for each side. Good ones. Smh I just don't know. All I know is that those girls should still be here.
I hope someone finds real evidence real DNA. I am not convinced, one man 2 girls. He worked in a very public place and no-one suspected him with sketch everywhere?
Why no voice analysis???? Is that too much to ask??? Just rely on one person to say they think it is his voice . Why did no one hear the girls if they were murdered there, they could not have been silent.
This trial was just long waiting cops over their head missed evidence and an awful judge. I think he just gave up and said he killed them. This hole case is just just a mess. Thanks Chris love you and Amy. Be safe.💕💕💕💙
It was a cartridge not a bullet. Huge difference and it could not be conclusively proven that it was ever his or in his gun. So much reasonable doubt and points of legal contention in this case his appeals will be going on for years.
Well done video. Very objective and helps one see how the jury came to their verdict. For those of us who know of the valid evidence Judge Gull would not allow them to present, the verdict was hard to hear
Richard Allen is guilty!!!! He's right where he belongs. I think he genuinely wanted to apologize to the families of Abby and Libby but his defense lawyers and his wife Kathy wouldn't let him. She would rather him keep his mouth shut and hope that one of the jurors would find him not guilty so he could go home and live their lives. She doesn't give two craps about the murders of two little girls and their families.
No one cares if you aren't fully convinced! The jury saw the evidence and they spoke so get over it! Stop being disrespectful to these two girls and their families.
Watch That Chapter…so much info left out including the fact he received a copy of report before he confessed. Too much reasonable doubt. He was acting crazy because he was in solitary confinement for over 6 months.
he was suspected before he got that report. You're getting the most condensed form of the story from this channel, because the entire purpose is to get the info out in a short amount of time. There are several channels out there that have covered this in detail.
He was not in true solitary confinement. He was in a space commonly used for solitary confinement for his own safety so he can live long enough to stand trial. But he was well taken care of for his comfort with daily interactions with therapists, TV, tablets and access to as many phone calls his black heart ever desired. That’s what happens when you threaten to unalive yourself and you risk getting k*lled by the general population for being a child k*iller/chomo. Get your facts straight, stop listening to conspiracy youtube channels that spews lies for clicks and views. Stop being so ignorant.
Or did that chapter add in a bunch of irrelevant info? Edit- that chapter put a bunch of credence to the “Odinism” theory, which is total nonsense. Think horses, not zebras. I mean, why on earth would people who want more white people kill two white girls? Get them to join their cult and later use them to “grow” their population? Yes, that makes sense. But Odinists would never sacrifice two white girls
There was a little girl that was abducted at our local mall probably 15-20 years ago. She was with a friend , but a man came up to them and said he was one of the girls mother’s boss. He needed help finding a present for her mother. So he told one girl to sit on the bench and they would be right back. The girl never returned. The police have a sketchy surveillance snapshot from behind of the man ( no video). This girls body was found a year later by a hunter. Very little evidence remained. It’s still an unsolved case today. When this case came out , I’ve often thought it may be one of those type cases. If the girls didn’t have the video , if Richard’s wife wouldn’t have insisted he tell law enforcement he was “ on the trail “ that day , he would still be blending in with the small town. Hiding in plain sight. I often wonder if the man that killed the little girl years ago from the mall is still hiding ? In plain sight.
I started off thinking he was guilty and up with reasonable doubt. I don’t know what it was that determined the jurors final decision but I couldn’t come to it. There was so much in this trial that made me just confused.
If there's 1 thing I'm familiar with it's ballistics and that bullet it could not specifically associated with that specific gun it could have been it's associated with a bunch of different guns 40 calibers at least and they had a witness that said that I don't know why the jury didn't pay attention to that part of it I mean unless the bullet was fired it's not going to tell you if it belongs to a specific gun or not it has to be fired for that to happen
Anyone that doesn't think RA had a mental break which caused his confessions hasn't talked to a Psychologist. RA already had dependency issues. When he was put into a max security prison, that was a violation of his rights. I would love to see you all stay mentally healthy with 24/7 lights on for over a year, let alone having a dependency disorder without contact. Talking over the phone is not the same. Dependence requires in person contact. The real killers are out there. Killers plural. The police know who they are, Command just chose to ignore them.
👍 Thanks! 😍 To he honest, I'm not positive he is guilty or innocent. If the judge had allowed cameras, I feel I would have a firm belief. I am hoping there's an appeal with cameras allowed and a different judge.
Why didn't that psychologist recuse herself from this case? He has to have a fair trial for them to be able to put him away forever. Any question of his guilt is so harmful to the process. What an idiot.
@ @victoriavancartier7379 lol this is a comments section where we give our opinions from the information available. chill out. it's clear what YOU think.
@@colorbugoriginals4457 I'm not a "kiddo" - I'm an adult. I did not state my opinion - I stated the jury's opinion... and their opinion IS relevant. GFY
Exactly! Had he mentioned THAT TID but (before being given the discovery) or the fact that Libby’s throat was cut VERTICALLY (which is a very odd way to slit a throat,) then the whole “details only the killer would know” would have been proven.
The very fact that there's no DNA says it all. This man did not randomly, brutally butcher two girls in the span of an unplanned hour and leave no DNA. It makes absolutely no sense. If you read the witness statements and everything, you'll see the discrepancies are not just Allen's - one witness, 5'8, passed BG and said he was absolutely taller than her. Did you know that Abby's body was completely drained of blood, yet the clothing she was wearing had not a single drop on it? These poor girls were murdered that night, and it didn't happen where they were found. People think her body was strung from a tree to let the blood drain - the very practice depicted in Odinism. The bodies were positioned in specific ways and were covered with with tree limbs, including the 'antlers' placed above Abby. The documentation from the scene notes that some of the branches had been cleanly sawed. There was no sign of the bodies having been dragged, and yet they were side by side. Could you imagine trying to repeatedly stab a child in the throat while somehow holding onto another one, and getting no blood anywhere on the clothing while leaving no DNA of your own? The very act of such a deranged and violent method of murder does not align with a spur of the moment killing. There is way more to this and I only want the truth the be known.
This is NOT victim blaming and I do NOT want to upset anyone but I am a father and grandfather who has both boys and girls. I WOULD NOT allow my young teenage kids (boys or girls) like these kids out on isolated areas by themselves. 13 Year old girls have no business in an isolated areas by themselves. I know it sounds old fashioned but I guess that I am old fashioned. The older I get the more I witness older men eye balling young girls. How do we have such a sexualized society that we do and not take this into consideration before allowing kids out like that? That area has a lot of business with destinations where people party and drink. When people drink and become alcoholics a percentage of them will do things they would never do sober. Plus bad alcoholics get sick in the head doing pervy things.
I get your point but everything comes with risk. This was a highly unusual crime in a public space during daylight hours and generally a creep will not target 2 people because it's too risky. Unfortunately the biggest risk to your kids is the people closest to you - family and friends, because they have access. It's important to educate girls & boys but especially boys since most of these crimes are committed by men.
Yes so many people placed their faith in junk “science” that even the “expert” admitted couldn’t rule out other guns. (Like Mr. Webber’s) a can, that may or may not have been there depending on what version of Mr webbers story choose to believe and several drug induced “confessions” given, while not only being held in prison, instead of jail where he belonged as a pretrial detainee. Oh and not to mention some “witness testimony” all of which describe a person that looks nothing like RA. And I’m still waiting for this evidence “only the killer would know” that the state claimed and this creator parroted, because everything that came out at trial, that wasn’t a complete change of “witness” testimony, had been known by the public for years now. Allen may be guilty, he may not be, but the fact that people insist on calling other people childish names because they disagree with them is kind of crazy!
This whole case has been BOTCHED since the beginning. I knew it the minute that the bug-eyed sheriff started acting like the female on the Jon Benet Ramsey case. He wanted us to think that he knows what he is doing but if he did, this case would've been quickly solved and Libby and Abby would get justice..... but no .. 😥 Their families deserve swift justice, not a clown show. I'll be SO GLAD when we get rid of D.E.I. and start hiring according to performance, not political bullshit. 😡
Exactly, which is way the ME, didn’t file an addendum to his report with his new “epiphany” of the “box cutter” and just decided to change his story once on the stand. I’m sorry but him, Webber and Carbough should all be charged with perjury! The story they told in their deposition was completely different than the one they told on the stand, and both of those are given under oath!
His confessions are suspicious though. He didn't confess (incorrectly btw) until he literally developed psychosis from extended solitary confinement. I don't know if he's guilty but the confessions are untrustworthy. I mean, he confessed to killing his wife and grandchildren (he didn't). It's a tough case. I think that he probably did it but I'm not sure that they proved it beyond a reasonable doubt
He did confess before his reported psychosis & before "discovery" as many are using "discovery" as to how in his confessions he made at least claims only the killer would know
@@BabylonianCowboy I'm not sure if he's guilty, or not either, and I watched all of the trial coverage from multiple sources during the trial, but his confessions didn't start until several days after he received his discovery documents. All of the evidence from Brad Weber, the van driver, and the fact that the medical examiner thought it was a box cutter would have been in there. Just an observation. I'm horrified by the crime beyond belief and you would hope justice was served, but I'm not sure it was proven beyond reasonable doubt. There was, also, the issue of the prison psychologist being a delphi murders true crime buff, and her feeding him information she read on websites about the crime and what people thought about him.
IMO, there is no way, from what was described from people who were in the court and saw the original video, that that voice belongs to the same man walking. According to them, he was actually ant sized in the video. The voice is obviously much closer to them. We were lied to from the get. LE made it look like he was right up on them!
They overlapped the audio in the video, so it was just from a later point in the video that wasn’t released to the public. We weren’t lied to at all and aren’t owed anything to do with this investigation. You aren’t those poor girls family members.
@@samanthahope1316except we kind of are, or at least the defendant is owed that. The constitution grants every person the right to a fair and public trial.
@samanthahope1316 You must love people in power. You don't think that the town was owed more truth? Why did it take so long for them to arrest someone? And you really think it was the right person? Nah... There were a lot of liars involved in this case.
@@jenniferferguson1517 sure the DEFENDANT is owed that. Are you the defendant? No. They had their trial and can file an appeal that will eventually prove to them if they are or are not guilty in the court of law. You weren’t on the jury like I wasn’t, so really neither of our options truly matter.
Was wondering when we're going to hear all the voice recording of Richard Allen the girls captured on their phones? All we've heard is the redacted version.
All they have is the “enhanced” (aka altered) video. They did show both the “enhanced” (altered) video as well as the original in court, and the unaltered video you can’t see anything really, and what little you hear is very garbled.
What a terrible way to die. They must have been so scared 😭
They must of been terrified. Probably so much, they didn't know what to do.
Just little girls. Children. It breaks my heart to think what those babies went through. And their families!
Libby had head trauma ,probably never saw it coming, especially if it was in her own bedroom... that's where the evidence is pointing... the rest is the cover up?
@@williamrae9954I haven't heard about this! It started in her bedroom?? No. Her and Abby were lucid and having fun on the bridge. That makes no sense.
I know! How terrifying! Looking back and forth to each other for comfort, then having to witness what is happening to each other! 😢😮 Those girls did not deserve that! 🙏They went for a fun hike! This just mortified me at the savagery, brutality and sheer terror that they experienced! It still brings tears to my eyes as I'm typing this comment! 😢🥺
I've been waiting for this from you guys. Love your channel ❤️
We love you!
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Chris, thanks so much for your viewpoint into this case. It has been the easiest and least confusing to follow and make sense. For some reason, this case has given me so much uneasy feelings every time I have tried to read or listen to anything about it since it happened. There is something just very evil with it.
I share people's skepticism, why do I not feel a sense of closure?
This is the first time I heard about the condition their bodies were found in. I hope this monster gets what he deserves in prison.
Me too
Me too, IF he did it.
I wish there was actually some conclusive evidence... I can't stand the idea of the person who hurt those girls just living free when they weren't given the same opportunity 😢
RA complained about his conditions. Wait till he returns. Unlikely he will have it that good. It’s just a matter of time that he’ll be placed in general population.
@@cjb2749 Absolutely. I hate that there is the smallest possibility that there could still be someone out there. This case has stuck in my head for years, which is vary rare for me.
Rest assured, they got the right guy, hes guilty of this horrible crime and will pay@@cjb2749
Why. Just why. Those last moments of those girl’s lives were terrifying.
Some people are just hardwired for evil😪
He told the shrink he had been drinking
Also said he was a $ex addict
@ the violent desire was already there. The drinking just lowered his inhibitions.
@@rossydv I know. I often wonder why when I hear of these cases. ? We are “ normal “ thinking people. So we don’t understand and never will. I wonder if he had done this before ? Had he tried several times but
missed opportunities ? Had he been out there under the bridge before ? I guess we will never know. When I hear of these horrific cases , the neighbors and acquaintances will say “ just a normal everyday guy , nothing suspicious or out of the ordinary “. Hiding in plain sight.
Yeah nothing more evil than Kohberger stabbing those 4 college kids! It’s either sex offenders or psychopaths out there after our children! 😫😢😭
@@rossydvyes and he stalked and acted creepy as heck toward girls in Walmart too and was fired for it!
I love how you clear up the irrelevant in these cases so that they are so understandable! Thank you! You guys are the best!
Thanks so much!
justice served
R.I.P. Abby and Libby
I agree. Justice served.
13 and 14 .... WTF is wrong with people? What went wrong to create a monster?
some people are born with their brains wired wrong aka "born evil"
Right how can you look 2 little girls in the eye and cut their throats with a knife? Sick
In his confessions he said he "thought they were older".
Not like any age would make this in any way better.
@@NorthAyase Agreed 👍 I just thought that RA was trying to minimize his actions.
Thank you for covering this without the extra ridiculous speculation.
As if his friends, wife and family didnt recognise the photo/video all over the media. What a joke.
@@SadPuppySoupyes. I always thought that the photo was Libby’s grandfather. Not that I thought he had anything to do with it but I thought a witness had seen him while he was trying to find the girls.
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@@SadPuppySoupBut the voice is identical to Richard Allen's.
my ex-stepfather was thought to be him based on that video, and he was even picked up because he also matched the more detailed sketch. He is pretty nondescript when you look at the surrounding community.
Denial is a powerful drug.
Too many unknowns to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
There are so many unanswered questions. If he did do it, I'd hoped he would explain his superhuman speed. In 19 minutes, he apparently abducted the girls, forced them across a creek, undressed Libby, had Abby put on some of Libby's clothing. Then he slashes her throat and, at the same time, somehow stopped the other girl from screaming or running.
Then he is supposedly spooked by a van and decides he needs to get out of there but still takes the time to arrange some sticks on the girls' bodies that do nothing to conceal them.
In short, the prosecution's theory makes absolutely no sense
I remember watching your first video on this and glad to see you guys did an update! You guys always get the facts right
Never realized he said he was wearin jeans a blue jacket and a hat. . . . that's bridge guy.
You do realize that by the time he made the confessions he had the discovery. Also it isnt uncommon for the cops to feed people information and try and twist it around to say he knew things only the killer would know.
Judges shouldn't be allowed to deny the public from seeing court proceedings especially high profile cases like this one. Its as bad as the police having a mute button on their body cams
It’s Indiana!
Such a sad story for those girls, just starting out in life. 😢❤
This case turned into a ”poor, poor innocent sweet Richard Allen” instead of let’s get true justice for Abby and Libby. It is disgusting.
Thankfully the Jury seen though The “Poor Richard Allen Defense”
Oh wow. I would like to see how you all do in solitary confinent for over a year, gtfo, 😂. . You all would do fine in Communist Russia or N Korea with this type of thinking. To hold somebody in solitary confinement for over a year. The human mind can only take 15 days. You all don't even know that this is a violation of our civil rights when it comes to due process. That's what makes our system better, due process. It's also against international law to hold somebody that long in solitary, against soldiers, much less civilians. Learn Geneva Convention and read your Constitution. Good grief
@@mjbeezer Except he wasn’t in solitary confinement, just in a space commonly used as such. This guy got pampered, he was not cut off from human contact and he got to call his family whenever he wanted. Thats not solitary confinement. But I agree, he should have been put in gen pop and be dealt with swiftly. This guy deserves the DP.
@@crimnclove1970Thank you! Gosh idk why people don’t know the difference!
@@crimnclove1970Exactly! It's the lack of human contact that makes people go crazy. Ricky didn't start going crazy until AFTER he started confessing to his wife and mother with details that only the killer would know.
This case is horrific all around. Those beautiful young ladies deserve justice. What has been given to the public is a dog and pony show. But those girls were murdered! This is sick.
I believe the jury got it right.
Why lie to his wife?? Unless hes guilty
I think *she’s* the lie. How do you not recognize your spouse’s clothes, mannerisms and voice? Toss her in jail too.
When did he have time for both to be undressed. Have Abby washed and wearing Libby's clothes. Then he decides not to R them, killing them instead. What was his plan on R ing one girl? What was his plan for the other girl?? Did he think while he was assaulting one girl that the other would just stand there waiting to be next?? It doesn't make sense to me.
Exactly!
when does murder ever really make sense?
I've been following this case almost 8 years. I'm so glad that the jury made the right decision and God allowed them to open up their eyes to see the truth. Those girls did not deserve horrific crimes did they had to endure right before they passed away in their young lives. So I don't want to hear about what went on with Richard Allen and what happened to him. It's all about the girls not him 🙏🙏💜🦋💙
By the way i always love listening to your videos and sharing them on the Delphi case
Thank you for all you do you are appreciated.
Would've been a lot cooler if god could've just stopped the attack but, hey, it's not like he's omnipotent and all powerful.
I adore the recap platform that you have made so relevant!! But I think this one deserves more than just recap. I know at least two other videos that you guys did. If you ever thought about doing a deep dive, maybe make this case the one you do it on.
Just me over here doing my normal Saturday night deliveries grateful for the upload something good to listen to have a great weekend
You too MusicLeeSarah!😀
Great! Isn’t it?
That monster aged pretty fast 😳
And thank you for this i have been waiting. You guys are awesome 👏❤
Noooooo! Jury did not convict him on confessions! They spent many hours over 3-4 days on the timeline and who could have been there and the circumstances that create the puzzle to solve showing nobody else was there or could have done that! Some of RAs early confessions had details only the perpetrator would know as only police knew about the van and throats cut and this creep placed himself there calling police to offer he was there after seeing himself in that bridge guy video; trying to throw cops off or taunt! He WAS bridge guy and others proved that over a year ago both with stature and voice analysis! The jury believed he was bridge guy too! Spot on! No conspiracy to frame this perp! His guilty conscience got to him knowing he was public enemy nr1 for a sex crime against children! Jury got it right without the public conspiracy mob!
There was no statue or vioce Analysist done..no witness said bridge guy was richard allen..the van was known for a long time by people..there was no dna von allen..thete was hairs that were not testet and other suspects
@@clarice3978He called the helpline hours after the BG pic was released. Stop trying to distort facts to simp for a child killer. Weirdo!
@artvandelayRFC I stand corrected. I just found out that, yes, RA did contact the cops after the bridge guy still was released to the public (I did not know the cops had that video so soon afterwards).
I've been following this since it first happened in 2017. Horrific crime. It just seems like a dodgy police investigation and odd that they didn't investigate RA right away.
Justice for Abby and Libby!! 🙏🙏😥😥🙏🙏
thank goodness he was convicted
so many red herrings that could have lead the jury to other outcomes
How do you drag someone without leaving drag marks? Get it right
When the bridge guy photo was released. I think Richard was worried that the public would tell police they think it's him. So to get out front of that, he decided to phone in a tip saying he was there.
I think the second time was after he had received the Bible from his mom and the guilt got to him. He confessed the first time long before he started acting nutty.
The jury did good, they got the right guy. Richard A is where he deserves to be. Case closed.
I agree with your take
I Agree!!
I agree, & I wonder why didn’t he bother to mention to his wife during the years in between that he was at the bridge?
It's far from closed
@@stephaniesmartBecause he was afraid she may tell someone and that someone would notify police.
Can someone explains why did they assume the guy in the video is the killer ? The footage of the guy could be random footage.
because of timestamps and the voice recording. All I have to do it click a file on my phone, and I can get the info on when it was taken/recorded. It's a default phone feature.
This is exactly how I feel. Why is this "bridge guy" the killer????
To my knowledge, they never did prove that the person in the video was the killer and the way it was described, (I watched Andrea burkhart's retelling of watching the video in court) it sounds fishy, the "enhancement" hmmm. And, how can someone get over to the girls in that quickly (43 seconds, I believe) in order to get the voice recording. That, along with soooo many other things, give me tons of reasonable doubt 😢
@@leighanneely yall sound like conspiracy nuts.
Are we to believe the video and audio are in synch at the time of the BG video? Like he's saying those words as he's walking toward them. There is a lot more in those 43 precious seconds.
It's called "junk science"
The jury didn't agree and that's all that matters Finally Justice for Abby and Libby
Many people had to have recognized his photo...yet they didn't speak up! Unbelievable! 😡
you don't know how many people actually reached out, because that's not pertinent to the case (unless you get so many the sheer volume hits the news, see the Elizabeth Short case for example). They picked up and questioned several people, one I knew personally (the only thing in the detailed sketched that doesn't match is the style of hat, and his voice doesn't match to my ear).
I have been waiting for this post!
I know I can trust you to drown out the noise & give us the real story.
But my heart hurts for the girls & their families, their last moments were horrific, thank god for the truck.
You know I was waiting for this. General concensus in Delphi is he did it. I really thought he had help, but now I believe the jury got it right.
I know very kittke about the case but the "down the hill" guy seems older than RA.
I sure hope they have the right man.
I don’t believe they do.
They do
My gut tells me it's not him. People want closure so bad and the pressure causes arrests to appease.
@ then who did it? The jury saw the evidence.
The Jury got it right. One of his bullets were at the scene, he confessed and he knew about the white van. He's Guilty!!
Rip to Abby and Libby. They are who matters, not a poop eating murderer. Yes the jury got it right.
Thank you for laying out the facts 🙏
It must of been so terrifying for them. Those poor girls should be enjoying college right now.
Only the jurors saw all of the evidence so anyone else's comments are irrrelevant.
Actually, the jurors weren't aware of a lot of relevant information. The judge categorically ruled out any evidence that might point to a third party. He has the right to present alternate suspects.
Doesn't pay to come forward to help out.
If he was faking why drug him with Haldol?
Two most popular actions murderers usually do after they are caught..they turn to religion and plead insanity.
Yep. He's taking a page right out of the Defense Playbook, alright
People manipulated into believing they did it could react the same.
@@colorbugoriginals4457 listen .. Allen confessed and told investigators things that only the killer could of known.
@@VernSherris Chris watts did the same thing.
@@marcot4863 he said a lot of things that weren't true and didn't make sense, bound to guess some things right.
What about the chunk of hairs they found in one of the victims hand? It was her sister hair the sister that dropped them off.
It was not a chunk of hair. A single hair no root likely from Libby's family. But I mean the girls were best friends hanging out at each other's home. How does a single hair turn into a "chunk of hair" ?
They were also just in Kelsi's car just before they were killed.
@milano888 Please stop with the misinformation because it's VERY DISRESPECTFUL to the girls and their families! The killer is behind bars and HAS been convicted by a jury of his peers.
The jury got it right!
@@lisaemerick6108for sure
You left out important facts but most won't know because the judge wouldn't allow cameras in the courtroom. Allen didn't get a fair trial.
Cameras don’t matter. There’s a transcript of everything. It shows you have no idea how court proceedings go
@Almneurthey didn't say they want him free. They said they want a fair trial-something we ALL would want if we were accused of a crime. Something every American is entitled to. No one wants actual murderers to walk free. But we should all want to ensure innocent people won't be punished for crimes they didn't commit and to ensure the true murderer is caught/locked up.
No one here is defending anyone they believe is a murderer.
Everyone agrees we want true justice to be served.
@Almneur He also confessed to killing ppl who aren't even dead. 🙄
Thank you for breaking this case down so detailed.
Glad it was helpful!
Why did nobody find them when searching that night?
They didn’t take the scent dogs out there.
Because it was DARK
I think they assumed the girls had most likely fallen off the Monon bridge so were searching the wrong location. I really don't know. Many problems with this case.
Hi Chris and Amy! I feel so bad for those two young girls. I know they were absolutely scared out of their wits. So sad. But I do feel like the jury got it right. And if he has a miserable existence, he brought that on himself.
❤️💜💚
This is bizarre. The guy had no history of abusive behaviour or evidence of interest in girls then decides to kill two girls in broad daylight when things could easily go wrong. He makes confessions but had access to the court papers. Either way it was horrible and those poor girls would have been terrified. Hopefully he was the killer because if he wasn’t whoever did do it is still out there and could do it again
Let this be a lesson to everyone. Many lost statements waiting to be found.
I think there is some history of possible alcoholism which in turn can cause mental illness in itself. Wasn't it stated by the defense/ I think it was
Good summary of the case. Fascinating. So tragic for the girls & their families.
The police intentionally ignored 911 call that came in reporting screams in that area early in the morning. There’s definitely something going on with this case. I have no clue what but there’s too many things that have ignored. Intentionally that just don’t make any sense. look into this case for yourself because we could all be in RICHARD Allen‘s place if they want to on someone, this is what they’re doing to him. They can do it because people don’t look into things for themselves. If you don’t agree with this that’s fine, but please just look into it for yourself
Thanks Chris and Amy for covering this. He is definitely guilty!
His DNA was nowhere.
@@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions Yep, was mentioned in this video. I think he is guilty. Saying something that Chris mentioned isnt going to change my mind. In fact, dont even bother trying. I have my opinion, you have yours😊
@@danesh1978 Never said I was gonna try to change your mind?
Absolutely,he did it.’
This is just the saddest case and after all these years and nobody was caught until Richard Allen.
Poor kids, can you imagine how scared they were? 😢
Can people please stop reporting that RA took picture of his daughter at the bridge after the crimes were committed? He took the picture years before. His daughter is in her 30s now and they were high school
photos.
For the first time in a very long time & in 1000's of cases, I'm not convinced he did it. I absolutely get that their parents & the town need answers, need someone to blame, but I'd have thought it better to wait on this one. They keep saying he said things only the murderer would have known, but the police had been filling him up with the info while questioning him. Not to mention all the material evidence related to investigating other possible perpetrators that the defence wasn't even allowed to tell the jury (& so much more).
I'm so sorry to Abi & Libby, their parents, family & friends, town & neighbours, and the rest of the curious folk, but I truly don't think this is resolved
I haven't followed like many of you but I'm hearing from si many on various channels they don't think he did it and was coerced...If this is true and the only evidence is a possible false confession due to extreme duress then I definitely would like to see him granted an appeal and get a new trial...Hopefully the truth will come out and either set him free or reconvict...Bottom line, justice is not served if the wrong man is behind bars...
By Richard Allen’s own testimony he was at the scene of the crime at the time of the crime and dressed like the guy that committed the crime ?
Why did he even tell his wife he was on the trail that day but never made it to the bridge ? But he told law enforcement he was on the bridge for and hour and a half watching fish ?🙄. Even his wife was surprised by his testimony and told Richard that’s not what he told her ? That’s the only reason he came forward.
I've been following this story for years now and I STILL can't make up my mind. I can see points for each side. Good ones. Smh I just don't know. All I know is that those girls should still be here.
I hope someone finds real evidence real DNA. I am not convinced, one man 2 girls. He worked in a very public place and no-one suspected him with sketch everywhere?
No one needs you to make up your mind @claritybadb because the jury already spoke. GUILTY!
The best summary of the crime.....so glad the jury got it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Justice served!❤
What justice we don’t even truly know
I think he took the fall for someone else.
Why no voice analysis???? Is that too much to ask??? Just rely on one person to say they think it is his voice . Why did no one hear the girls if they were murdered there, they could not have been silent.
This trial was just long waiting cops over their head missed evidence and an awful judge. I think he just gave up and said he killed them. This hole case is just just a mess.
Thanks Chris love you and Amy. Be safe.💕💕💕💙
It was a cartridge not a bullet. Huge difference and it could not be conclusively proven that it was ever his or in his gun.
So much reasonable doubt and points of legal contention in this case his appeals will be going on for years.
Well done video. Very objective and helps one see how the jury came to their verdict. For those of us who know of the valid evidence Judge Gull would not allow them to present, the verdict was hard to hear
very tunnel-visioned analogy
Richard Allen is guilty!!!! He's right where he belongs. I think he genuinely wanted to apologize to the families of Abby and Libby but his defense lawyers and his wife Kathy wouldn't let him. She would rather him keep his mouth shut and hope that one of the jurors would find him not guilty so he could go home and live their lives. She doesn't give two craps about the murders of two little girls and their families.
Apologize? He didn't accidentally break nana's favorite vase. What he did is inexcusable in the truest sense of the word.
The Appeal should be Granted and Televised for the public to see im not fully convinced he did it
I totally agree.
No one cares if you aren't fully convinced! The jury saw the evidence and they spoke so get over it! Stop being disrespectful to these two girls and their families.
@ many other people care and you know it
Watch That Chapter…so much info left out including the fact he received a copy of report before he confessed. Too much reasonable doubt. He was acting crazy because he was in solitary confinement for over 6 months.
he was suspected before he got that report. You're getting the most condensed form of the story from this channel, because the entire purpose is to get the info out in a short amount of time. There are several channels out there that have covered this in detail.
He was not in true solitary confinement. He was in a space commonly used for solitary confinement for his own safety so he can live long enough to stand trial. But he was well taken care of for his comfort with daily interactions with therapists, TV, tablets and access to as many phone calls his black heart ever desired. That’s what happens when you threaten to unalive yourself and you risk getting k*lled by the general population for being a child k*iller/chomo. Get your facts straight, stop listening to conspiracy youtube channels that spews lies for clicks and views. Stop being so ignorant.
@JolieCrochetbyDominique I don’t think the discovery RA got included the the info about the van or the boxcutters.
Or did that chapter add in a bunch of irrelevant info?
Edit- that chapter put a bunch of credence to the “Odinism” theory, which is total nonsense. Think horses, not zebras. I mean, why on earth would people who want more white people kill two white girls? Get them to join their cult and later use them to “grow” their population? Yes, that makes sense. But Odinists would never sacrifice two white girls
There was a little girl that was abducted at our local mall probably 15-20 years ago. She was with a friend , but a man came up to them and said he was one of the girls mother’s boss. He needed help finding a present for her mother. So he told one girl to sit on the bench and they would be right back.
The girl never returned. The police have a sketchy surveillance snapshot from behind of the man
( no video).
This girls body was found a year later by a hunter. Very little evidence remained.
It’s still an unsolved case today. When this case came out , I’ve often thought it may be one of those type cases. If the girls didn’t have the video , if Richard’s wife wouldn’t have insisted he tell law enforcement he was “ on the trail “ that day , he would still be blending in with the small town. Hiding in plain sight.
I often wonder if the man that killed the little girl years ago from the mall is still hiding ? In plain sight.
What’s the name of this case?
Where did that case take place?
@@KindredKaye I think Cleveland Heights Ohio ? I have to google it because they use the little girls name for the case name.
@@KindredKaye Google Amy Renee Mihaljevic. Case
@@jenniferferguson1517 Google Amy Renee Mihaljevic. Case.
RA is guilty period! IMO😢 RIP Abby🩷 and Libby 🩷
I started off thinking he was guilty and up with reasonable doubt. I don’t know what it was that determined the jurors final decision but I couldn’t come to it. There was so much in this trial that made me just confused.
nope. it wasnt him
Why'd say that?
Amazing no blood on jacket it’s amazing
No blood on the jacket, no blood in his car, no blood in his house, none of his blood, sweat, tears, hairs or fibers found at the scene.
If there's 1 thing I'm familiar with it's ballistics and that bullet it could not specifically associated with that specific gun it could have been it's associated with a bunch of different guns 40 calibers at least and they had a witness that said that I don't know why the jury didn't pay attention to that part of it I mean unless the bullet was fired it's not going to tell you if it belongs to a specific gun or not it has to be fired for that to happen
You don’t know guns or forensics. Stop embarrassing yourself and stop defending child killers.
@@BabylonianCowboyAbsolutely!! The girls finally have justice ❤
Anyone that doesn't think RA had a mental break which caused his confessions hasn't talked to a Psychologist. RA already had dependency issues. When he was put into a max security prison, that was a violation of his rights. I would love to see you all stay mentally healthy with 24/7 lights on for over a year, let alone having a dependency disorder without contact. Talking over the phone is not the same. Dependence requires in person contact. The real killers are out there. Killers plural. The police know who they are, Command just chose to ignore them.
Fair and well done rundown! Videos like this are why this channel has such high quality.
Thank you!
The judge sounds like a straight up tyrant!!
She was awful.
Thank court TV
She didn't break the law.
Andrea Burkhart put real light on this case
Andrea’s a hack. Hopefully you listened to several perspectives and not just hers
What matters is that Abby and Libby got justice. RIP girls ❤❤❤❤
Hey Chris!! Crazy full moon out here in Massachusetts tonight ❤
Beautiful!
I'm in Massachusetts too 🌙🌝
Vermont, too! I got great pictures of it earlier!! They came out great!!
We've had snow here in my area of Manitoba, Canada.
Here in Connecticut too!
Is it like a power trip to kill someone ? Seems like a way to control events in life
That is what many behavioral experts believe.
😢😢😢Thank You, Chris. Love from Ontario, Canada ❤❤❤
👍 Thanks! 😍
To he honest, I'm not positive he is guilty or innocent. If the judge had allowed cameras, I feel I would have a firm belief. I am hoping there's an appeal with cameras allowed and a different judge.
The viewing 😊lawyers that WERE in the courtroom do not think he’s guilty.
Bc it was a set up.
I agree, sad all around for both sides
But your take on it is irrelevant. Trials aren't decided by public sentiment or morbid curiosity. Sitting jurors decided guilty. The end.
@@tlouwoot6309Both sides aren't sad. Just the convicted double murderer's side.
Why didn't that psychologist recuse herself from this case? He has to have a fair trial for them to be able to put him away forever. Any question of his guilt is so harmful to the process. What an idiot.
Not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt.
You weren't a sitting juror so you being convinced is irrelevant.
@ @victoriavancartier7379 lol this is a comments section where we give our opinions from the information available. chill out. it's clear what YOU think.
But obviously the JURY was! Your opinion is irrelevant.
@ @LittleBlueOwl318 so is yours, kiddo, what's your point?
@@colorbugoriginals4457 I'm not a "kiddo" - I'm an adult. I did not state my opinion - I stated the jury's opinion... and their opinion IS relevant. GFY
Did he ever mention about covering the bodies with branches?? Only the killer would have known that as well 🤔
Exactly! Had he mentioned THAT TID but (before being given the discovery) or the fact that Libby’s throat was cut VERTICALLY (which is a very odd way to slit a throat,) then the whole “details only the killer would know” would have been proven.
And ted nugent walked around for two weeks in shitty pants just to get out of the draft. Somehow I just don't buy Allen's goofball act.
The very fact that there's no DNA says it all. This man did not randomly, brutally butcher two girls in the span of an unplanned hour and leave no DNA. It makes absolutely no sense. If you read the witness statements and everything, you'll see the discrepancies are not just Allen's - one witness, 5'8, passed BG and said he was absolutely taller than her. Did you know that Abby's body was completely drained of blood, yet the clothing she was wearing had not a single drop on it? These poor girls were murdered that night, and it didn't happen where they were found. People think her body was strung from a tree to let the blood drain - the very practice depicted in Odinism. The bodies were positioned in specific ways and were covered with with tree limbs, including the 'antlers' placed above Abby. The documentation from the scene notes that some of the branches had been cleanly sawed. There was no sign of the bodies having been dragged, and yet they were side by side. Could you imagine trying to repeatedly stab a child in the throat while somehow holding onto another one, and getting no blood anywhere on the clothing while leaving no DNA of your own? The very act of such a deranged and violent method of murder does not align with a spur of the moment killing. There is way more to this and I only want the truth the be known.
This is NOT victim blaming and I do NOT want to upset anyone but I am a father and grandfather who has both boys and girls. I WOULD NOT allow my young teenage kids (boys or girls) like these kids out on isolated areas by themselves. 13 Year old girls have no business in an isolated areas by themselves. I know it sounds old fashioned but I guess that I am old fashioned. The older I get the more I witness older men eye balling young girls. How do we have such a sexualized society that we do and not take this into consideration before allowing kids out like that? That area has a lot of business with destinations where people party and drink. When people drink and become alcoholics a percentage of them will do things they would never do sober. Plus bad alcoholics get sick in the head doing pervy things.
I get your point but everything comes with risk. This was a highly unusual crime in a public space during daylight hours and generally a creep will not target 2 people because it's too risky. Unfortunately the biggest risk to your kids is the people closest to you - family and friends, because they have access.
It's important to educate girls & boys but especially boys since most of these crimes are committed by men.
They should tear down that bridge out of respect for victims
Guns only leave unique marks on bullets that have been fired through said gun lol
Yes so many people placed their faith in junk “science” that even the “expert” admitted couldn’t rule out other guns. (Like Mr. Webber’s) a can, that may or may not have been there depending on what version of Mr webbers story choose to believe and several drug induced “confessions” given, while not only being held in prison, instead of jail where he belonged as a pretrial detainee. Oh and not to mention some “witness testimony” all of which describe a person that looks nothing like RA. And I’m still waiting for this evidence “only the killer would know” that the state claimed and this creator parroted, because everything that came out at trial, that wasn’t a complete change of “witness” testimony, had been known by the public for years now. Allen may be guilty, he may not be, but the fact that people insist on calling other people childish names because they disagree with them is kind of crazy!
This whole case has been BOTCHED since the beginning.
I knew it the minute that the bug-eyed sheriff started acting like the female on the Jon Benet Ramsey case. He wanted us to think that he knows what he is doing but if he did, this case would've been quickly solved and Libby and Abby would get justice.....
but no .. 😥
Their families deserve swift justice, not a clown show.
I'll be SO GLAD when we get rid of D.E.I. and start hiring according to performance, not political bullshit.
😡
There was no boxcutter
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Exactly, which is way the ME, didn’t file an addendum to his report with his new “epiphany” of the “box cutter” and just decided to change his story once on the stand. I’m sorry but him, Webber and Carbough should all be charged with perjury! The story they told in their deposition was completely different than the one they told on the stand, and both of those are given under oath!
He never confessed until they started drugging him.
Plus the "only stuff the killer would know" was after he had already seen the discovery?
@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951 correct 💯
It wasn't in discovery.
No proof of him having a box cutter. Damn yall already FAILED.
GKY
His confessions are suspicious though. He didn't confess (incorrectly btw) until he literally developed psychosis from extended solitary confinement. I don't know if he's guilty but the confessions are untrustworthy. I mean, he confessed to killing his wife and grandchildren (he didn't). It's a tough case. I think that he probably did it but I'm not sure that they proved it beyond a reasonable doubt
Not true. He first confessed before his alleged psychosis.
He’s guilty and got what he deserved.
He did confess before his reported psychosis & before "discovery" as many are using "discovery" as to how in his confessions he made at least claims only the killer would know
@@BabylonianCowboy I'm not sure if he's guilty, or not either, and I watched all of the trial coverage from multiple sources during the trial, but his confessions didn't start until several days after he received his discovery documents. All of the evidence from Brad Weber, the van driver, and the fact that the medical examiner thought it was a box cutter would have been in there. Just an observation. I'm horrified by the crime beyond belief and you would hope justice was served, but I'm not sure it was proven beyond reasonable doubt. There was, also, the issue of the prison psychologist being a delphi murders true crime buff, and her feeding him information she read on websites about the crime and what people thought about him.
@@leps3457what claims
IMO, there is no way, from what was described from people who were in the court and saw the original video, that that voice belongs to the same man walking. According to them, he was actually ant sized in the video. The voice is obviously much closer to them. We were lied to from the get. LE made it look like he was right up on them!
They overlapped the audio in the video, so it was just from a later point in the video that wasn’t released to the public. We weren’t lied to at all and aren’t owed anything to do with this investigation. You aren’t those poor girls family members.
@@samanthahope1316except we kind of are, or at least the defendant is owed that. The constitution grants every person the right to a fair and public trial.
@@jenniferferguson1517 Exactly
@samanthahope1316 You must love people in power. You don't think that the town was owed more truth? Why did it take so long for them to arrest someone? And you really think it was the right person? Nah... There were a lot of liars involved in this case.
@@jenniferferguson1517 sure the DEFENDANT is owed that. Are you the defendant? No. They had their trial and can file an appeal that will eventually prove to them if they are or are not guilty in the court of law. You weren’t on the jury like I wasn’t, so really neither of our options truly matter.
Jury was way too fast i feel. Didnt really get in and discuss fully. Will win an appeal.
Was wondering when we're going to hear all the voice recording of Richard Allen the girls captured on their phones? All we've heard is the redacted version.
You’ve heard a shortened version. You’ve still heard his voice in the video.
All they have is the “enhanced” (aka altered) video. They did show both the “enhanced” (altered) video as well as the original in court, and the unaltered video you can’t see anything really, and what little you hear is very garbled.
I hope they got the right monster responsible cause we don't need someone on the street doing this to our children so terribly
This case was horrifying and haunting.