Beato Book Review

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  • @pj2524
    @pj2524 3 роки тому +398

    My mother tried playing Elvis through headphones on her stomach when pregnant with me,now I'm all shook up

    • @jorgegera9042
      @jorgegera9042 3 роки тому +4

      I see what you did there

    • @gkniffen
      @gkniffen 2 роки тому +14

      Were you born... “In the Ghetto”? 🤔😎

    • @pj2524
      @pj2524 2 роки тому +5

      @@gkniffen It was a cold grey morn apparently.

    • @theartistformerlyknownasje6358
      @theartistformerlyknownasje6358 2 роки тому

      😂👏

    • @tonym2513
      @tonym2513 2 роки тому +2

      I’m looking around for it because I know you did something here…damned if I see it tho. You slick bastard you.

  • @lemmythelion6146
    @lemmythelion6146 3 роки тому +81

    I reviewed it 2 years ago. I think he just compiled handouts from his classes. You are 100% correct. My assessment is the same

    • @ultrium2000
      @ultrium2000 Рік тому +9

      I also bought the book. I totally agree with you. To me, it is just a complied collection of handouts from his classes. If you are a beginner, do not buy it. Anything that is it, you can just google it and find better information.

  • @thetribalist6923
    @thetribalist6923 3 роки тому +251

    This goes to show how good a teacher like Uncle Ben Eller is. Informative, entertaining, and breaks things down on a level that is easily understood by a variety of skill and experience levels. Thanks for the review KDH. I respect how honest your assessments are.

    • @zadtheinhaler
      @zadtheinhaler 3 роки тому +20

      I especially dig the inclusion of "stepdad speed". For an old dude like me that started as a drummer, it's hella handy.

    • @thetribalist6923
      @thetribalist6923 3 роки тому +22

      @@zadtheinhaler stepdad speed is one of the truly great innovations in recent music history.

    • @NinjaRunningWild
      @NinjaRunningWild 3 роки тому +7

      Rick's got his problems but Ben is just a tool.

    • @jjs8426
      @jjs8426 3 роки тому +2

      Whatchu all think about Shred master Scott?

    • @thetribalist6923
      @thetribalist6923 3 роки тому +22

      @@NinjaRunningWild I’m a fan of both guys, and wasn’t disparaging Rick, and I respectfully disagree; Ben is far from a tool. He has a relatable sense of humor, and that makes learning easier because it’s more fun. You don’t like his jokes? Fair enough, but he’s always been nice to his fans, myself included, so there’s no need to bash him.

  • @richardlewis1243
    @richardlewis1243 3 роки тому +60

    having been a beato stan but somewhat healed up, I did buy it to support the channel the same way I may at some point buy a Levi Clay country picking book. the most useful thing for my guitar growth has just been spending a lot of time with the guitar in my hands, not much works better...no secret formula unfortunately

    • @robbirose7032
      @robbirose7032 3 роки тому +15

      @FUCK JOE BIDEN KILL ALL LIBERALS cringe name you sheep

    • @nckhed
      @nckhed 3 роки тому +3

      @@robbirose7032 Please. ALL of you are sheep.

    • @robbirose7032
      @robbirose7032 3 роки тому +3

      @@nckhed sick burn.

    • @blacktoothfox677
      @blacktoothfox677 3 роки тому +3

      EXACTLY... Time on fretboard is the only true currency

  • @tippybooch
    @tippybooch 3 роки тому +19

    I'm just gonna chill here with my popcorn waiting for Rick to show up

  • @tobexdmasterofjej6363
    @tobexdmasterofjej6363 3 роки тому +20

    Man I really enjoy your vids, ngl really helped me through a lot of the lockdown BS Ty man keep it up!

  • @kirkwilson6229
    @kirkwilson6229 3 роки тому +190

    I play guitar, don't read music, and own the book. I found the book incredibly helpful in clarifying and deepening my understanding of music theory, especially building chords and how they relate to scales. I am not, however a beginner as a player, nor was it my first run at theory. I think you are correct about the book not being for beginners. It was developed for college level music students, who tend not to be green. I do feel the book was worth the money for me.

    • @modscientist9793
      @modscientist9793 3 роки тому +15

      There are much better sources out there. Music Theory by Tom Kolb is amazing and Serious Guitar by Michael Hoffman..you'll thank me. In fact, you're welcome in advance. Rick's book is not good. I had high hopes for it. But it falls short and flat of it's intended goal and audience.

    • @HeadbangoO
      @HeadbangoO 3 роки тому +1

      @@modscientist9793 Well, you targeted the wrong audience as well 😜 Kirk says he's not a beginner and these books take you only through a few steps of the very early beginning.

    • @modscientist9793
      @modscientist9793 3 роки тому +5

      I posted in here instead of the main thread sorry Kirk. But yeah..not a good book. Some good information inside but there are much better, and I do mean much better resources...if you like it then more power to you. It's so surprising because Rick is a great player and teacher. It didn't even merit me wasting the paper to print my pdf.

    • @manuele.itriagom.728
      @manuele.itriagom.728 2 роки тому +6

      @@modscientist9793 so what if there are better sources? Doesn't change the fact that it helped him. There are also many, many, MANY, worse sources that he could've stumbled upon.
      I'm not trying to defend Rick's book, i haven't even read it. But it annoys me that there's always a smartass saying: well, there's better things out there.
      Sure, there might be better sources, but at the end of the day, the best source is the one that makes you grow and better yourself.

    • @modscientist9793
      @modscientist9793 2 роки тому +3

      I agree....if it helps someone out there, it's not entirely useless. It's not an articulate read, and a confusing collection of notes that comes really pretentious. Almost a glorified chord book. That's really what should annoy people that spend their hard earned money. Regardless of how feel. But if we don't share our opinions, the uninitiated will never know. Rick is intelligent and knows his craft but his execution misses the mark.

  • @UnvisibleINK
    @UnvisibleINK 3 роки тому +43

    This basically sums up my feelings on most online music teaching courses. They could be useful but I assume they're mostly pointless. I picked up the Ultimate guitar handbook when I was a teenager and it has everything in it, including information on guitarists, guitars, squillions of chords and all the fundamentals of music theory as well. It was informative but not super useful in the long run. Within ten minutes of looking at the circle of fifths and realising that I could figure out any key signature by starting at C and transposing up a fifth or down a fourth and sharpening or flatting the 7th... that's when I abandoned all motivation to memorize any key signature other than C major. However a good music teacher probably would have been able to outsmart me and push me in ways the theory itself couldn't.
    In my case was lucky to have a really effing cool guitar teacher outside of school, cause my school music teachers were awful and totally uninspiring. The way I gradually developed my musical understanding was by taking the foundations my guitar teacher gave me and then playing in bands and talking shop and learning what I could from the musicians I was playing with. Musical interactivity makes learning and the motivation for learning much more innate and intuitive. Having a physical in person teacher is always going to be better than prefabricated one size fits all videos and/or pdfs. Working with different bassists who have different aptitudes and tendencies was the biggest crash course in harmonization I've ever experienced.
    Be good to see more videos of guitarists (or any musicians) advocating learning music theory off an instrumental teacher rather than a course. Cause (notwithstanding access limitations of small towns and rural communities) it seems clearly better to find a guitar or piano teacher locally who is happy to teach anything from campfire songs to the nerdiest jazz harmonisations, and learn your theory that way. It's one thing for a teacher to lay down the law, but when they back it up by jamming with you and making you look a fool, that's when the shit they're talking really sinks in.

    • @RomainG6409
      @RomainG6409 3 роки тому +2

      No one should be looking for a "music teacher" anywhere, on line or in real life, but rather for a "guide" ... unfortunately, that is a very rare human kind ...

    • @UnvisibleINK
      @UnvisibleINK 3 роки тому +2

      @@RomainG6409 I get you, but to be honest if you're going to split those semantic hairs then I'd say that a "guide" is preferable to a "teacher" in any discipline, not just music. I don't believe music is more special or mysterious than anything else. I would say that any good and/or effective "teacher" would fit your definition of a "guide".

    • @RomainG6409
      @RomainG6409 3 роки тому

      @@UnvisibleINK We agree to disagree ;-) and the debate would be far too long I guess. But yes in most artistic (but not only) disciplines this is true (the guide requirement), but not everywhere as some disciplines require only « technical » or « knowledge without spirit » trainings where in that case, any good teacher can do the job indeed. But that is not what we want on music … we want to go beyond the technic that you can learn almost without a teacher these days with all the material you can find on the net for free…

    • @johannalvarsson9299
      @johannalvarsson9299 3 роки тому

      I say the same to my students as my own teachers to me: If you don`t play an instrument or at least make music yourself (like programming midi), you will probably not get anything anyway. Plus: Learning requires feedback, and that is why interacting with people is vastly superiour to books. You cannot ask a book any questions. Or better said you can, but it might not be able to answer.

    • @quintessenceSL
      @quintessenceSL 3 роки тому +1

      My biggest critique is that playing music should be joyous, and instructors manage to suck the life out of it.
      Not everyone intends to be a professional, so teaching them as such is just grindy and stupid.

  • @martinpaddle
    @martinpaddle 3 роки тому +159

    I love Beato's content (putting aside the rants). Some of his interviews are outright masterclasses, and I can't begin to describe the increase in insight and music appreciation I got from his various breakdowns of songs. But your review of the 'book' is spot on: as you put it, there's little Beato in there

    • @MrChopsticktech
      @MrChopsticktech 3 роки тому +6

      @@creamwobbly Agreed! There is no need to ran every few months about videos being blocked, demonetised etc. Rock takes it personally, and acts like the artists are watching his videos to block him.
      He's been in the music business for decades, owns the studio, has produced albums yet he plays dumb when he tires to claim fair use. He's got to know a few people in the industry (producers, engineers, lawyers, label executives, managers etc.) and use their input but he prefers to play the victim, claiming Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Fleetwood Mac etc. are blocking him, and he is full of it when he claims that if it wasn't for his 'What Makes This Song Great' videos are the only way to get new listeners/fans to be exposed to those music legends and classic songs.

    • @Wizardofgosz
      @Wizardofgosz 3 роки тому +6

      His rants are the only videos I do like. The rest is bluster.

    • @allstopblue5717
      @allstopblue5717 3 роки тому +3

      @@creamwobbly Who are these creators who put out videos like Rick’s. Would love to check to them out… would love to see similar creators who have videos similar to “what makes this song great” or even the way Rick goes through current top 10 hits or whatever. The knowledge he imparts in those videos I have not seen from other creators. So please let me know. The book probably sucks. But you have now veared off into criticizing his videos themselves so would love to hear what channels you do like that offer the same experience. Thanks.

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope 2 роки тому

      What's the problem with the rants?

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope 2 роки тому

      @@MrChopsticktech With that many subs he has definitely an influence on younger listeners. The comment section is full of younger people thanking him for exposing them to new music.

  • @ForTiorIJohnny
    @ForTiorIJohnny 3 роки тому +45

    THANK YOU!!! i would never have the guts to do a critique on anything from a bigger youtuber, no matter how constructive. there are always the fanboys ready to put you down. but i agree 100%.
    i´m a guitar teacher myself and know my basic music theory and know how to teach it. i thought the Beato Book could push me to the next level. but it´s really just a collection of information, it doesn´t teach. his lesson videos kind of feel the same tbh. i still like and respect him a lot and watch him all the time. just the teaching aspect feels off to me.

    • @MrGul
      @MrGul 3 роки тому +10

      Another teacher by profession here, and I also agree 100%!

    • @gringochucha
      @gringochucha 3 роки тому +5

      Yep, I love his "What makes this song great" videos, but I can't sit through his "lectures", because he just plows through information without really organizing it in a useful way. He really knows his stuff and can tell some great stories, but he doesn't seem to really understand teaching.

    • @user-yb5bp4dl9u
      @user-yb5bp4dl9u 3 роки тому +1

      If you have the balls to admit it youll have the balls to do anything man.

    • @steveb9325
      @steveb9325 3 роки тому

      Agree completely about his book and his teaching theory on his channel from time to time. Jsm! Other than that, I do appreciate his interviews and his passion!

    • @pgon9097
      @pgon9097 3 роки тому

      maybe you shouldn't be a guitar teacher if the beato book is too hard for you. Go play smoke on the water and smells like teen spirit

  • @scottbronder
    @scottbronder 3 роки тому +15

    This is great. The number of times I've almost given him money for that book I can't even count and it's really hard to find info about this book.

  • @replicated
    @replicated 3 роки тому +79

    I think Rick would benefit greatly from having a writer (with music background) piece his references together with context and flow with deeper explanations. I feel that would add tremendous value to his book. I think Rick's videos are great, but as an intermediate, I felt there could have been more than what I could already find on the internet.
    Great videos though, and I like how much new (to me) music, especially jazz that he has exposed me too.

  • @generalruckus
    @generalruckus 3 роки тому +68

    Rick "Copyright Strike" Beato.

  • @MrRafaztar
    @MrRafaztar 3 роки тому +89

    I bought the book and thought I was just dumb but this makes me feel slightly better. There are many good books out there

    • @rock-mtb-kry
      @rock-mtb-kry 3 роки тому +1

      #metoo

    • @mbgmail5911
      @mbgmail5911 3 роки тому +14

      You are not dumb. The book is a compilation of stuff for people who already understand the content and how it connects. It does not really explain much at all.

    • @MrRafaztar
      @MrRafaztar 3 роки тому

      @@mbgmail5911 thanks, I have used a resource to keep track of things learned with teachers and other videos

    • @noggintube
      @noggintube 3 роки тому +8

      I bought it too and simply found it a very dry 'read'. It looks like someone's notes they wrote in class. I've learnt way more off good UA-camrs like Ben Eller or Anyone Can Play Guitar. Rick is no doubt a brain box of music theory, but he's not a good teacher.

    • @emilxert
      @emilxert 3 роки тому +1

      @@ibanezlaney that’s why he makes the 30 minute videos for them dummies, who want everything being spoon fed to them

  • @kevincourville1164
    @kevincourville1164 3 роки тому +8

    I really want to thank KDH for these reviews and audit videos. They've been more eye opening than any music lesson video and taught me to start paying attention more to the substance in lessons, rather than the pitch.

    • @callmejackaroo4723
      @callmejackaroo4723 2 роки тому

      Just home from work, eyes & brain are cranky... I thought you thanked him for the adult videos. I was like, dude, I'm sure he was incognito in getting you the wank flicks, & he's probably aware there's some eye opening scenes, but I doubt he wants you to advertise his porn distribution side hustle

  • @TiagoLageira
    @TiagoLageira 3 роки тому +10

    You should check out his ear training method and what it offers for the price he asks..

  • @TonyLudlow
    @TonyLudlow Рік тому +13

    Thank you for the review, KDH! When I heard how many pages The Beato Book is, I felt intimidated by the embarrassingly short 220 pages of my Ph.D. dissertation. But then, when you explained that Rick's book is less than 9,000 words, I felt so much better about my 61,000-word dissertation! Your humor and honesty were fun as you explained the obvious omissions from Rick's book. That said, I love Rick's channel and was one of the first 1,000 subscribers back in the day.

  • @jazznotes3802
    @jazznotes3802 3 роки тому +25

    Rick isn’t the greatest teacher, even though he knows music theory to a very high level.
    The problem with his book (like many others) is it’s just another one that shows you the information without teaching you anything, “like how to actually apply it to you instrument in a step by step manner.” Theoretical Information is next to useless IF you don’t know how to apply it!
    Anyone can make a book filled with theoretical information and charge £40 or more, considering it’s freely available to all on the internet. But finding a book on how to apply theory to the guitar is very hard to come by.

    • @daniellarson3068
      @daniellarson3068 3 роки тому +2

      With a name like Jazz Notes, maybe there's a need you can fill that you just identified. I never did like Mel Bay books.

  • @ExtremeBassGuitar
    @ExtremeBassGuitar 3 роки тому +12

    Wow, thanks for the honest review!!

  • @kamaboko1
    @kamaboko1 3 роки тому +88

    My brother started playing guitar about two years ago. He mentioned the Beato book. I advised him not to get it. Rather, I pointed him to UA-cam channels that would show him how to play songs he was interested in knowing how to play. I told him the book would bog him down and kill any interest he has in learning how to play guitar. Rick has a great UA-cam channel and I love his "what makes this song great" episodes, but he's so far removed from beginner students. I get the sense that Rick's idea of a beginner student is actually a student with an intermediate level of music theory: they already know the circle of fifths, modes, a number of scales, etc.

    • @user-pl7lr5dn8q
      @user-pl7lr5dn8q 3 роки тому +3

      theory is so boring unless u plan on going somewhere its useless no guitarist that matters will rub that in ur face

    • @boshi9
      @boshi9 3 роки тому +8

      I have a copy of Rick's book and I didn't find it very useful for someone with intermediate level of music theory knowledge either. Once you have the foundational knowledge, there are many much more efficient ways to look up the rest than browsing a poorly organized PDF document, or even better you can figure things out by yourself. Honestly, I couldn't figure out who that book is intended for.

    • @johannalvarsson9299
      @johannalvarsson9299 3 роки тому +8

      @@boshi9 It is also useless from an advanced standpoint. Like, how is "you can play this scale over this chord" on it`s own really helpful? There is so much more to music than harmony and scales. It feels like someone telling you: "Here, those are bricks, this is cement, and those are planks. Now you should know how to build a house."

    • @89ji76
      @89ji76 3 роки тому +1

      “The circle of fifths, modes, a number of scales” can be learned in an afternoon or two. That’s still a beginner.

    • @bassesatta9235
      @bassesatta9235 3 роки тому

      @@johannalvarsson9299 thats not what the book talks about

  • @TheFlyingPlectrum
    @TheFlyingPlectrum Рік тому +2

    Love his channel so bought the book to support him. Your assessment is spot on.

  • @Malediction99
    @Malediction99 3 роки тому +116

    I have the Beato book, but I think I'm probably Rick's target audience: studied music a long time ago and have a solid knowledge of the foundations. The book is terse to the extreme, it's not appropriate for beginners, it's more of a reference book than a textbook and as such it's pretty good.
    Rick's content can be hit and miss too. A lot of videos start with a great idea, then he somehow loses that and rambles on and I end up watching something else. You can tell he's only planned the first 20% of the video and decided to wing the rest. He works best when he's tightly focused, like the "What makes this song great series", or when he plans the whole thing out.

    • @jerkerjansson386
      @jerkerjansson386 2 роки тому +4

      He’s done some really good interviews as well. I like that he generally don’t talk over the guests too much and that he asks about really nerdy music stuff that other interviewers usually doesn’t know about.

    • @Malediction99
      @Malediction99 2 роки тому +2

      @@jerkerjansson386 True, some of his interviews are awesome. I watched the Pat Metheney interview recently, and although Pat's music is not quite my cup of tea it was still fascinating.

    • @ScottMcdonaldMusic
      @ScottMcdonaldMusic 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly! I love his book but it’s not for a beginner. Like you said it’s a reference book. I can only watch Ricks live streams for the first quarter. No matter how long at the quarter mark he starts rambling. His edited videos are top notch.

    • @CocoKoi321
      @CocoKoi321 2 роки тому +2

      Fake comment by beato

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope 2 роки тому

      His interview with Bernard Purdie was excellent. The guy is so much fun to listen to and watch.
      Concerning his focus I must agree. Although his videos about auto tune and the evolution of music are also very recommendable.

  • @justcantshred
    @justcantshred 3 роки тому +12

    I'm aligned on your take on the Beato book. I bought it. I found it interesting and I was learning stuff, until I got to around page 30. From there everything was way over my head, and I wasn't seeing any context to the information being presented. I bought it because as a beginner it was marketed as a solution, but it really wasn't. Rick should take your advice and create a curriculum to contextualize the information to let the reader know how to apply the information and the "why" behind it.

  • @JamesWilson01
    @JamesWilson01 3 роки тому +43

    I love watching Rick's videos but have never been tempted to buy this book because I've always learned by ear. It'd be really interesting to know what you think of his ear training course (hint, hint 😉). That's something I'd consider buying because, although I can figure most things out by myself, Rick does it so much faster!

    • @andresilvasophisma
      @andresilvasophisma 3 роки тому +5

      I'm not the one to say how you should learn, but learning theory is not a bad thing at all, as is learning by year.
      The overall goal should be bridging both things.
      Let's say you learn the Dorian mode of the diatonic scale, you should then be able to identify it by ear when you listen to someone playing it the same way you can identify a pentatonic scale when you listen to someone playing rock or blues.

    • @trintdaddylandis
      @trintdaddylandis 3 роки тому +3

      serious question - why do you like his videos? are you a fan of rhett shill as well?

    • @andresilvasophisma
      @andresilvasophisma 3 роки тому +4

      @@trintdaddylandis I would answer if the question was actually serious, but rhett shill?
      Come on.

    • @trintdaddylandis
      @trintdaddylandis 3 роки тому +3

      @@andresilvasophisma its a serious question...

    • @andresilvasophisma
      @andresilvasophisma 3 роки тому +3

      @@trintdaddylandis Don't know who rhett shill is.

  • @theyettigaming2754
    @theyettigaming2754 3 роки тому +2

    Great coverage of this. Thanks for all the honesty and keep it up

  • @TMmodify
    @TMmodify 3 роки тому +10

    I'm a guitar player and I bought this book along with the Instagram transcriptions in order to get better at improv and it really helped. But this book is in no way shape or form for beginners

  • @alexmurphy5289
    @alexmurphy5289 3 роки тому +2

    What books do you recommend? I adore Zen Guitar by Philip Toship Sudo (RIP), The Practice of Practice by Jonathan Harnum, and lastly Barrett Tagliarino’s books: Guitar fretboard workbook, chord tone soloing, and Rhythm Lead Guitar

    • @aliensporebomb
      @aliensporebomb 3 роки тому +1

      I love Zen Guitar. It’s the kind of thing you can read year after year and still get things out of it.

    • @alexmurphy5289
      @alexmurphy5289 3 роки тому

      @@aliensporebomb Oh man, I’ve read it off and on for years it’s SO good. I highly recommend you go to Philip’s website and hear how he handled his stomach cancer with a Zen outlook. Reading it made me cry but inspired me so much

  • @ryanbilly3434
    @ryanbilly3434 3 роки тому +5

    We have bought the book to support him as he shares his bits to us noobs. I agree with some that if you are a beginner it is really hard to understand it. Many pages to skip and theory isn't easy to understand but again it needs alot of work. Love this channel too (you have popped up recently on our feed) and we thank you for the bits shared, we didn't expect to see a review like this so maybe most his viewers are yours too. HNY! cheers!

    • @menriquez89
      @menriquez89 3 роки тому +1

      Check out signals music studio on YT

    • @ryanbilly3434
      @ryanbilly3434 3 роки тому

      @@menriquez89 Noted that, will check it out. Thanks, Mate!

    • @dimitriid
      @dimitriid 3 роки тому +1

      I think Rick's book would work a lot better if it was just given to supporters on a platform like Patreon or youtube membership. It is basically doing this exact function if you think about it: He prices it high at 50 USD because he puts it on sale for his livestreams almost every single week: He doesn't expects much sales outside the channel and he expects most people watching his channel to almost guaranteed get one of his "sales" and "promo codes" to entice but because he knows people are more likely to buy at 25-35 bucks if they hear "Act know since it's 50% off!"
      The book itself basically functions not really as a book you learn from, but as a tool to follow along some of the videos and livestreams as in ok he's talking about this scale which I don't know: Pause it, open up the PDF and play it a bit on your guitar, then resume the video.
      The rest of the stuff he pushes like the ear training courses and such is even more geared towards a "reward" system on a platform like Patreon as in the "entry level" gets you the core book and each tier gets you the additional courses on top, etc.
      Not that I necessarily agree or disagree with the other commenters on the thread saying he's not really a great teacher specially for beginners, but regardless it's usually not really conductive for an educator to just sell a book on it's own when he could market it more as an important tool for his educational/analysis videos.

    • @ryanbilly3434
      @ryanbilly3434 3 роки тому

      @@dimitriid Price aside, the value he adds are worth it for us beginners imho.

  • @vagata123
    @vagata123 3 роки тому +40

    I find most UA-cam guitarist courses to be overpriced and frankly subpar. A good player who understands music and music theory does not automatically make for a good educator or in Ricks case a good writer.

    • @kippsguitar6539
      @kippsguitar6539 3 роки тому +1

      But a professor of music probably can

    • @presorchasm
      @presorchasm 3 роки тому +2

      @@kippsguitar6539 I'm not sure about music academia specifically, but I find that a lot of professors kinda suck at teaching concepts.

    • @potatoheadhaoy
      @potatoheadhaoy 3 роки тому +1

      @@presorchasm my father is a great economist and happens to be a good teacher, but I will say people like him are quite rare. I've studied under many people for many things, but good educators and good professors are more like resentful bedfellows than the same person.

  • @joshuamarks1129
    @joshuamarks1129 3 роки тому +9

    Thanks for the review!
    I have long suspected that there is likely nothing in that book that Rick has not repeatedly lectured about in his videos, and there are a lot music encyclopedias/theory books that essentially present long lists of scales, chords, and rhythms.
    As a music educator myself, I find the circle of 5ths to be the most valuable page in most of the books on my shelf.

  • @markomales98
    @markomales98 3 роки тому +4

    Im a big fan of Rick's channel. I don't own this book, but I think you made a great and honest review. Will you do the review for his ear training ?

  • @RNAMusic
    @RNAMusic 3 роки тому +9

    I still have my theory textbooks from college when I got my degree. I refer back to those when I want to refresh on something. You can probably purchase some of those and I in fact did find one of mine online somewhere for free as a resource for students. I did buy Ricks book on a big sale, because I do enjoy his videos mostly, but haven’t really gone too far into it. Honestly I kind of like physical books more than PDFs when I’m studying something.

    • @Slycaw
      @Slycaw Рік тому

      I am a student though not in music, can you hint at where I could find some resources? Which uni? I would be glad

  • @jmjeffries2
    @jmjeffries2 3 роки тому +124

    God bless kDH for being the one guy who will take on the grief that must come along with standing up and saying the truth about all the BS and snake oil that fills music youtube. And he isn't even heavy handed. He's tough but fair and concedes points where there are some. I'm really happy I got to see this video before Beato goes nuts and strikes it down.

    • @nielslohmann6727
      @nielslohmann6727 3 роки тому +1

      Hhahaha this guy

    • @Knosferatu
      @Knosferatu 3 роки тому +6

      Agreed 100%

    • @tauronval1404
      @tauronval1404 3 роки тому +2

      So Beato content is like BS and Snake Oil for You, come on!! And it’s free!….

    • @jmjeffries2
      @jmjeffries2 3 роки тому +6

      @@tauronval1404 I think Beato is mostly clickbait. I think most of his opinions are BS and the book snakeoil if it is sold as a course, because it's at best a reference manual.

    • @tauronval1404
      @tauronval1404 3 роки тому +1

      @@jmjeffries2 Ok it’s not a music school it is a UA-cam channel!…So this video is not a clickbait?…I respect your opinion.

  • @landonbailey
    @landonbailey 3 роки тому +3

    I'm going to hold off and wait for the Deluxe Ultra Special Edition 10.0 to be released.

    • @jonniegibbins
      @jonniegibbins 3 роки тому +1

      Is that the much rumoured Deluxe Tele Edition?

  • @sid35gb
    @sid35gb 3 роки тому +6

    Constructive criticism is a good thing. I think Rick is capable of breaking down each chapter into bit size chunks for beginners and really spelling out what to do with the information presented. Also adding links to related video is a great idea.
    Feedback like this is a great way to get better products/ content from UA-camrs.
    Ricks a good guy I hope he takes it on board and improves his book accepting that Rome wasn’t built in a day and that music is about constant learning and improvement.

  • @Allison_Chaynes
    @Allison_Chaynes 3 роки тому +4

    🌟Keep doing your thing, KDH. Cheers from USA!!!! Hello, Rick. I'm sure you're reading the comments. I watch you too. Hope you all have a great Year. 🍻

  • @BOOLsheet
    @BOOLsheet 2 роки тому +5

    Basically it’s a giant reference PDF and if you aren’t advanced you won’t understand or be able to read most of it. And if you are advanced you probably don’t need it.

  • @Chris-Ian
    @Chris-Ian 3 роки тому +7

    I tried learning music theory stuff from Rick a few times already and even though I understood part of it and it served me well, in the end I just gave up trying to learn from him. There are far better teachers on UA-cam alone, who might or might not be as knowledgeable as Rick, but they surely explain things much much much more clearly.

    • @pgon9097
      @pgon9097 3 роки тому

      maybe you're just not that good.

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic Рік тому +1

      @@pgon9097 He's right! Way better instructors out there than Rick!

    • @drew335
      @drew335 11 місяців тому +2

      Teaching is a different skill set from being knowledgeable and technically gifted. We often conflate the two. Rick is an amazing producer, musician and understands music theory backwards and forwards but there are way better teachers on UA-cam.

  • @cristianorentroia6607
    @cristianorentroia6607 3 роки тому +38

    I see the Beato Book more as an encyclopedia for practicing, if you already know what you should be learning at the moment, why learn it and on what context you can use it. To be fare in many videos Beato gives some of the musical context and refers to the book for the concrete material. Certainly not for a beginner tho.
    Still i love the book as it agglomerates a lot of info in one place, in a reasonable pedagogical order. It makes practicing easier and faster.

    • @NinjaRunningWild
      @NinjaRunningWild 3 роки тому

      Conglomerates you mean?

    • @cristianorentroia6607
      @cristianorentroia6607 3 роки тому

      @@NinjaRunningWild i guess. english is not my language.

    • @KaninTuzi
      @KaninTuzi 3 роки тому +3

      @@NinjaRunningWild I think he meant aggregates.

    • @oleksiishekhovtsov1564
      @oleksiishekhovtsov1564 3 роки тому +3

      But like... why spend $40 on it if it's still just a pdf? I'd understand getting a physical copy, but as a pdf it feels pointless! Why not just bookmark a bunch of scales off of wikipedia in your browser? The explanations there are better as well, and it's faster than scrolling through a pdf

    • @pgon9097
      @pgon9097 3 роки тому

      @@oleksiishekhovtsov1564 a theory book that in depth and thick would cost 100usd like prinicples of orchestration by sam adler

  • @MrCoalmin
    @MrCoalmin 3 роки тому +3

    Could you do a review on the course by Samurai Guitarist, I've been thinking about showing the money out for it.

  • @thelastchannelonyoutube
    @thelastchannelonyoutube 3 роки тому +54

    Sounds like Rick put as much thought into the content of the book as he did the cover.

  • @thinkingape7655
    @thinkingape7655 3 роки тому +43

    I have his book and use it as mainly a reference. I agree with KDH; I too found it disappointing because it’s difficult to decipher to use as a “lesson” book. The original was a mess and was handwritten notes on notation paper 🤦‍♂️
    With that said, Rick has helped me understand some tough topics, so in end for me, it’s a fair trade.

    • @aliensporebomb
      @aliensporebomb 3 роки тому +1

      I consider it similar to the telephone directory in a number of ways - it's huge, thick, heavy and mainly used as a reference to look something up you don't know or clarify knowledge of things you do.

  • @enricoruotolo
    @enricoruotolo 3 роки тому +7

    Music Theory is always taught around the piano. If you’re in any formal Music Education setting, you’ll learn theory in relation to piano regardless of your instrument. So in that aspect, he’s accurate when he says it’s for all instruments. If you show up at any college for a music theory course, they’re going to use piano as the crux of everything they teach you.
    Not defending the rest of what’s in there. I’m also not a Beato customer, just someone who went to a music college. I learned theory in 3 different settings. The first, was a guitar player, and my teacher still used a piano

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 2 роки тому +1

      Except this book is almost entirely based around the guitar, not the piano. That's the problem with it. And just showing guitar scales and chords and then adding the sentence "try this on piano" on maybe a dozen of the 500 pages, isn't useful in the slightest.

  • @STSGuitar16
    @STSGuitar16 3 роки тому +15

    Rick saying “I just love trolling people so much” is probably the most troll sentence I have ever heard

    • @tball5677
      @tball5677 3 роки тому

      Toxic behavior

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 3 роки тому +2

      more like a boomer who just heard the term

    • @STSGuitar16
      @STSGuitar16 3 роки тому +1

      @@matturner6890 yeah see it's like a multiple level troll because he trolled you for thinking that without even knowing he did it lmaoo

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 3 роки тому

      @@STSGuitar16 Shit, Beato thinks of everything.

  • @kaiying74
    @kaiying74 Рік тому

    Thanks for this Kalen. I've been thinking about picking this up, I have literally zero musical knowledge and can't read music....this has saved me 50 bucks.

  • @MrDigitalMike
    @MrDigitalMike 3 роки тому +3

    I'm glad I got to watch this before the storm hits

  • @joshbeer414
    @joshbeer414 3 роки тому

    Great video. Nice to see an honest different perspective that’s kind of crazy how little words are in the book

  • @BaselKhaddam
    @BaselKhaddam 3 роки тому +6

    i always wondered why i never heard of this book anywhere other than on Rick's channel

  • @UtoyOnWheels
    @UtoyOnWheels Рік тому

    Yeah we can google everything nowadays. I think the problem right now for most people beginning their music journey is that, they don't know what to look for or where they should start. I was a teacher for a couple of years and most of my teaching materials where sourced from google and youtube. But I still see the value of actually having a book for reference because they are structured very well from the basics to the advanced level of the particular subject. I think original or not, Rick's book can benefit you in a lot of ways. There are many other books that are better but the fact that his influence made you go find a better book, served its purpose already. Great content! Love how you think and question everything. You deserve a lot more recognition and subs. Thank you very much.

  • @RM-hj7zo
    @RM-hj7zo 3 роки тому +5

    Glad you pointed out early, 500 pages is not much especially when you're using lots of sometimes large images.

  • @generalruckus
    @generalruckus 3 роки тому +113

    I can't wait to see how Beato explains his way out of this!
    All valid points by KDH.

    • @ilovecops6255
      @ilovecops6255 3 роки тому +3

      Beato!

    • @TheEmbalmer13
      @TheEmbalmer13 3 роки тому +16

      30 minute rant video

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 3 роки тому

      @@benjaminsavage4204 senseless trolling for a few clics

    • @cristianorentroia6607
      @cristianorentroia6607 3 роки тому

      All fare points. Some seem to be targeting a straw man tho.

    • @12ealDealOfficial
      @12ealDealOfficial 3 роки тому +7

      @@benjaminsavage4204 You thought he trolled Sting? How so? I quite liked that interview. Seemed like Sting actually wanted to be there, which is rarely the case.

  • @aglees2b
    @aglees2b 3 роки тому +7

    I see the book as a way of saying "thanks" and supporting Rick. I agree that as a standalone product it's a bit of let down.

  • @JamesWoodGuitar
    @JamesWoodGuitar 2 роки тому +1

    You should definitely do an update on this now he’s released the interactive one with videos! I would be interested to see what you think as I haven’t purchased it! Thanks.

  • @MercutioUK2006
    @MercutioUK2006 3 роки тому +37

    I was expecting more from an educator of Rick's standing. There's no question he can be entertaining, informative and insightful but I would, of course, baulk at spending that sort of money for an internet search compilation. So I found a list of contents and simply used Google.
    Problem solved.

  • @011001er
    @011001er 3 роки тому +21

    I've got an entire bookcase of music theory, education and history books. And you're right, ricks book is not a solo beginner learning experience, you wouldn't bring it to a teacher either. When would you NEED it? Probably never, but you'd be remiss to pass up the opportunity to have a look at it for a few bucks while supporting the guy who makes a TON of content that i/we consume for free. Eh... It's worth having.

    • @STSGuitar16
      @STSGuitar16 3 роки тому +3

      I think that’s a very balanced take

    • @autofocus4556
      @autofocus4556 3 роки тому +1

      A few bucks? The guy is a tool.

    • @pgon9097
      @pgon9097 3 роки тому +1

      @@autofocus4556 he's a better musician than you and it hurts don't it?

  • @cwestmont
    @cwestmont 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for a very clear review.

  • @CallMeChato
    @CallMeChato 3 роки тому +4

    Apart from in-uterus music ‘learning’ proven to be a scam, it’s good to know the Beato book is undercooked let’s say charitably. Maybe he’ll see this video and add sufficient commentary to the book in the future. I do enjoy his videos. Good vid btw.

  • @clivegilmore9598
    @clivegilmore9598 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks KDH you’ve a knack for saving me dough 👍👍

  • @vadenk4433
    @vadenk4433 3 роки тому +3

    I like Rick Beato and would actually buy the book if it was an actual book. I hate reading anything off a computer screen. I’m old school and just prefer physical things- same with music- I want to hold the vinyl and look at the gatefold etc. Would definitely love to hangout with Rick for a day and play guitars and BS though. Seems like a good guy to me.

  • @EJH-jn6mo
    @EJH-jn6mo 2 роки тому +1

    Since Rick now just announced an interactive version id love to see your update review

  • @scottmh96
    @scottmh96 3 роки тому +3

    If you're looking for a good music theory book, I'd recommend the Guitar Teachers Grimoise by Lee C Conley. I'd been playing for 10 years I think when I got it so can't say how good it is for beginners but it says it's aimed at guitar teachers and beginners so make of that what you will. 🤷‍♂️
    It's like 20- £25 on Amazon and it's a paperback if that's one of your gripes about the Beato book.

  • @TylerCMilligan
    @TylerCMilligan Рік тому +1

    As a guitar player I cna confirm I read music at a day care level.

  • @spleefdowny
    @spleefdowny 3 роки тому +12

    Totally agree, and this echoes all the criticism I’ve seen online. Love Rick’s channel, but I find him a substandard teacher…and this is coming from a life-long educator.

    • @hotman718
      @hotman718 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah he really isn't a great teacher. He doesn't really explain things in a relatable way. He will ramble on, very unfocused. Much like the book.

  • @OttoHarmonicaMania
    @OttoHarmonicaMania 3 роки тому +2

    I think this is a fair assessment of his book. And indeed how do I learn it? Thank you.

  • @JC-11111
    @JC-11111 3 роки тому +16

    LMFAO @ the cut scene at the end. Bravo, KDH! Hilarious 🤣👌

    • @VitrificationOfBlood
      @VitrificationOfBlood 3 роки тому +4

      Also the headphones blasting brutal metal lmao

    • @valebliz
      @valebliz 3 роки тому +1

      @@VitrificationOfBlood the headphones killed me lol

  • @gwkonyoutube
    @gwkonyoutube 3 роки тому +2

    When it comes to connecting with theory in a profound way, this book is kind of like when you're in school, the main teacher is out and the substitute comes in and without any real introduction or greeting they dump a couple of books down for the students to sit at their desk and read while the sub just sits at their desk writing emails the whole period

  • @hahahadracula
    @hahahadracula 3 роки тому +2

    for some reason I was checking your channel the same moment you uploaded this...

  • @wspeed657
    @wspeed657 3 роки тому +2

    I think there is value in having a document that has all the info you would need. It seems to be a reference document more than an educational document as you said. How much is that worth? How much is your time worth that you don't have to do that or go through multiple books? $50? That's a hard sell.

  • @justincider4375
    @justincider4375 2 роки тому +4

    He just released an interactive version of the book recently. I haven't checked it out, but it looks like a huge improvement from the original.

    • @FerSpada
      @FerSpada 2 роки тому

      I HOPE CAUSE THE PDF IS NOT FOR ME

  • @maxmustardman298
    @maxmustardman298 3 роки тому +1

    Oh I needed this video. I've considered the purchase, but since it expects a certain level being able to read music, its not gonna be for me. Plus I would rather like a actual paperback instead of a PDF, Ive been looking at screens already enough during the day.

  • @har234908234
    @har234908234 3 роки тому +7

    I dunno... there's something that rubs me up the wrong way about Rick. He could be totally sweet for all I know. I haven't watched too many of his videos... I watched the one where he told me what strings to use. I watched some of the "What makes this song great?" series - where the ones I watched he just seemed to play the isolated parts and gave his approval... and I've watched one or two of the rants where he defended the use of said parts as being fair use even though to me it looked like he was using it in furtherance of his brand to sell product. I couldn't get past that... An artist's work is their own and the way they intend to present it to the world is the way they usually do. Rick's opinion seems to be that his use of it is some fair transaction for the value of his approval. He does seem to be a master of self promotion. Are people queuing up for his production services? The chord charts are a weird reference in a music theory book... don't you just learn where the intervals are in relation to the root on each string? Anyway, people seem to like him... it's likely me!

    • @mellowgeekstudio
      @mellowgeekstudio 3 роки тому +3

      You are not alone. I tried to learn from his lessons "for beginners" videos when I was a beginner and he is definitely the worst music teacher I ever watched on UA-cam.

    • @dourmoose
      @dourmoose 3 роки тому +4

      You’re not alone.

  • @jameshawkins4514
    @jameshawkins4514 2 роки тому

    Glad for this review. I'll save my money and rewatch Andy wood and Rick beatto videos

  • @grantlazenby8192
    @grantlazenby8192 3 роки тому +9

    Also another point, if you know your music theory properly then you shouldn't need a bunch of chord charts to know the chords you want to play. Music theory teaches you what notes go into making specific chords.
    I enjoy Rick's interviews and what makes the song great videos but I really dislike the "reaction type" videos. I don't even bother with those kind of videos.

    • @MrChopsticktech
      @MrChopsticktech 3 роки тому +1

      His 'Spotify Top 10 List' videos are especially annoying to me.

    • @menriquez89
      @menriquez89 3 роки тому +2

      @@MrChopsticktechhe seems so freaking out of touch in those videos. He’s a perfect example of the old classic rocker who hates anything new. He’s a living cliche.
      Most great musicians hear new music and they may not like it, but they can contextualize it and understand why it exists and who it exists for.

    • @grantlazenby8192
      @grantlazenby8192 3 роки тому

      @@MrChopsticktech Yep, I really couldn't give a rat's ass.

  • @Mark70609
    @Mark70609 2 роки тому

    Thanks for reviewing this book. What guitar theory books do you recommend?
    I would like to see reviews of ear training courses too.

  • @sqlsmarty4325
    @sqlsmarty4325 3 роки тому +19

    🤣🎸 I have the Beato book, and I agree with every point you made in your critique. It is a good music encyclopedia, but his lack of explanation, and digital pointers to an online lesson, makes it hard to grasp. The comment(s) on tab notation is correct as well. How many guitarists that haven’t graduated from the likes of Berklee, MI, or Juilliard, can actually read? Well done! I believe Rick means well, and he’s a very accomplished musician and instructor, but that is lost in this book.

    • @vaughanmacegan4012
      @vaughanmacegan4012 3 роки тому +3

      He means to make money! And he takes every opportunity to tell you to buy it!

    • @davidmorrison803
      @davidmorrison803 3 роки тому

      Dude, many guitarists can read music. What a silly comment. Hahaha.

    • @ArtGuitarLTX
      @ArtGuitarLTX 3 роки тому

      @@vaughanmacegan4012 well yeah! 😂👍. I have it but never even bothered to use it 😅🤦‍♂️. Gotta make 💰 on UA-cam

  • @andresilvasophisma
    @andresilvasophisma 3 роки тому +1

    0:00 "Rick Beato"
    **Here we go**
    First of all I like Rick and I've definitely learned a lot from him.
    That said, I don't think the book is for beginners at all.
    The first 20 or so pages are about naming intervals, which is great, but after that it just starts thowing scales at the reader and there's little text to go with them, and this is just the beginning.
    The book has tons and tons of chord diagrams but little explanation is given.
    If you have no musical background you should also read about musical notation before reading the book.
    I wished it was more geared towards guitar players, with more tabs included.
    In reality the information could be divided in multiple volumes but with a lot more (con)text.
    A while back Rick talked about doing something like Khan Academy but for music, short videos that allow you to start from scratch and "unlock" new levels as you go. This would be great.
    Edit
    I was writing this as I watched the video and basically we have a similar view on it.
    I started playing guitar in 1993 and I wanted to learn more theory but had a hard time following it.

  • @mpgnz73
    @mpgnz73 3 роки тому +4

    Difficult to know exactly how helpful the content is without actually reading it myself. Chord shapes are useful but actually building triads and more complex chords from the knowledge of the fretboard and theory is probably more beneficial - there's only so many possible shapes anyway. As far as a theory course specific to guitar I can recommend Frank Gambale's Peace and Harmony - quite expensive though.

  • @phadrus
    @phadrus 2 роки тому

    I got the same sense about this book, glad you confirmed it. Appreciate an honest review.

  • @manny75586
    @manny75586 3 роки тому +21

    I really enjoy Rick's channel.
    I bought the book 1.0.
    Pros:
    There are tons of examples and scales
    There are a lot of structured exercises
    When he makes updates, he makes it a "pay what you can" model.
    Cons:
    It is a bit expensive. I bought it when it was 50% off. He basically does that at the start of every stream he does so wait til then.
    It is really a lot of just charts with little context
    It is very guitar focused
    I have a college degree in music, it was fine for me to get through. A beginner would not have enough direction provided to know what to do though
    I bought it to support Rick. It's not a bad book. It just shouldn't be your first book. A beginner should definitely go through Common Practice Era materials first then move onto something like the Berklee Jazz Harmony book.

    • @roachdoggjr155
      @roachdoggjr155 2 роки тому

      do you have any recommendations for a first theory book? if it helps im a bass player

  • @bebop2402
    @bebop2402 2 роки тому

    So what books would be good for beginners? I’m not totally clueless on music theory but I’d still consider myself a beginner. I’ve been looking for a book for a while, but I’m not sure what to get.

  • @IndependenceGuitar
    @IndependenceGuitar 3 роки тому +6

    😆 “most guitar players too”. Yeah, i played for 10 years before I learned how to sight read. I bought the beato book about a year ago. I got into it a handful of times before I realized it wasn’t what is advertised. The only really good thing I can say about it is that it is a decent compilation of ideas, but you’re right. If there is no teacher there to put the ideas into context, it will go right over the head of many. I have plenty of positive and negative criticisms of Rick Beato, and in this case, I feel like he could have done much better. Especially with how many versions of the book there are, and how long it’s been out. He’s had plenty of time to add to it and explain the concepts and ideas instead of just throwing a harmonic minor scale in front of you and saying “have fun”. The book would be so much better served if Rick were to write better fore notes, and come up with exercises, and explain context. It would be a lot of work, but I think it would make the book worth the money (whereas currently it’s not), and serve as a sort of legacy for him that people could learn from for generations to come. As it stands, the book falls very flat, but I think it’s salvageable if he were to go back and add9 some more actual Beato into the book.

    • @Wizardofgosz
      @Wizardofgosz 3 роки тому +1

      I started on clarinet first so I knew how to read, but reading polyphonic music was something I could never do well.

    • @IndependenceGuitar
      @IndependenceGuitar 3 роки тому

      @@Wizardofgosz yeah, polyphonic music is pretty difficult to read at first. Mostly because i was always trying to read each individual note on the staff. My grandpa taught me to read it in shapes and clusters. It became sort of a game/challenge. After about 6 months, I could sight read most stuff in real time. And another year or so, I could read all complex chords and shapes. Most of it comes down to practice, but it definitely doesn’t hurt to have a teacher show you shortcuts and memory tricks (like with anything else you learn). My grandpa was a badass jazz musician and music professor at a small college in Pennsylvania, definitely helped a ton.

  • @6oundStudio
    @6oundStudio 3 роки тому +2

    Can someone please recommend a good source of information about music theory then?

  • @chadwickhurlburt6529
    @chadwickhurlburt6529 3 роки тому +14

    If I were still teaching, I would recommend this book. I do feel it requires the guidance of someone who understands theory, from the students perspective. If someone is brand new to music and playing guitar, it would be over their head. I bought a copy myself for two reasons. 1) it's and excellent reference guide I can go to for visual illustrations and examples 2) I appreciate Rick and enjoy his content so this is how I chose to support him and his work.

  • @poino87
    @poino87 3 роки тому +1

    100% I've played guitar for years and have no idea about music theory. My brother got me this for Christmas. Page 1 - intervals. I had to have google open to help me have any comprehension about their relevance. I get half steps and semitones so why name it something else now. The book doesn't help you connect any of the dots. Why is the word augmented next to the word 4ths when a 4th appears to be a M in the list of intervals? I'm still trying to figure out page 1!!!

  • @ErikZmusic
    @ErikZmusic 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the review. It's basically exactly what I thought. A bloated mixed bag of free information mildly curated but for the most part thrown together without much context. So pretty much like 99% of the junk influencers sell on the internet. :-) God the internet has made people lazy. I should do a 500 page pdf book on the 100 best RIck Beato videos, and all it is is screen shots of his videos in chronological order with an index. $49.95 for volume 1.

    • @pgon9097
      @pgon9097 3 роки тому

      it's a good book but looks like you gave up on music to bale hay lololololol

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 2 роки тому

      @@pgon9097 anyone who knows even the basics of music theory would know this isn't a good book. Learning music theory is not about memorising chords and scales. It's not enough to just know these things. You have to know _WHY_ these things are used in the context they are, otherwise it's pointless learning them in the first place.
      Just trying to memorise all of them would be like trying to become a better writer by memorising the dictionary. Knowing every word in the dictionary doesn't make you a good writer. You have to know _WHY_ certain words are used and in certain orders.

  • @mickb5854
    @mickb5854 2 роки тому

    Good video, I definitely see where you are coming from. Would you have a better recommendation for a book that achieves the goal better? I’m looking for good resources as I am pretty new to guitar. Thanks for the content! :)

  • @gitarmats
    @gitarmats 3 роки тому +3

    The Pick Rick clip at the end caught me off guard.

  • @irf888
    @irf888 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing your honest review. Best.

  • @zenncatt
    @zenncatt 3 роки тому +9

    As someone that was previously interested in purchasing the book, I was a bit dubious about the content of it and did a little research and read reviews from people that had purchased it. The majority of the consensus would agree with your assessment of it's content. Thanks for the review KD.

    • @pgon9097
      @pgon9097 3 роки тому

      most of the reviews are by talentless morons that can only play in e pentatonic on guitar

  • @jonathanmurdoch6210
    @jonathanmurdoch6210 2 роки тому

    Do you think I can use the Tascam Model 12 for recording brutal guitar tones

  • @carriersignal
    @carriersignal Рік тому +3

    Excellent review and pretty much spot on. The book has a lot of information in it, but it is very hard to piece together everything in a way that is useful. There is little in the way of explanation where you are almost completely on your own. Learning music theory, like other things, requires some sort of curriculum or structure that you can build on. Otherwise you feel like you are just learning a hodgeodge of random things. Rick knows his stuff, but unfortunately isn't a very good teacher of any of it. It takes a special abiltiy to convey concepts in a way that is useful and meaningful. This book really doesn't deliver what you might expect. As stated in your video, most of its content is already out there. Though it does make for a decent reference.

    • @PaulDo22
      @PaulDo22 8 місяців тому

      Bingo! Teaching is a gift and just because you know your material doesn't mean you know how to communicate it effectively.

  • @bobc.5698
    @bobc.5698 2 місяці тому

    What are 5 things one needs to learn for guitar?
    I'll mention one thing and one of you guitarists can put it in the order of where it goes.
    Notes on the fretboard.
    how does one learn to play the beautiful chords and notes that carol kaye plays?

  • @johannalvarsson9299
    @johannalvarsson9299 3 роки тому +3

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I suppose the book does not cover Schenkerian Theory or Functional Harmony in the tradition of Riemann? I am a studied musicologist, an I have to admit that I got quite annoyed at some point on how he presented Jazz-based theory as the non-plus-ultra in it`s field. I mean, it is a valid theory, but it is at the absolute maximum 15% of what I learned. Just an example: If you REALLY want to get our intervall-system, you need to understand why the circle of fifths is actually a spiral of fifths, otherwise we wouldn`t need enharmonics at all.
    Again, don`t get me wrong, I don`t have any gripe with Beato as a person or most of his videos. I just have to say that what he presents as the "ultimate music-theory" is actually just a tiny fraction of music theory as a whole. (Let`s just overlook the nonexistent applicability to "non-western" music, this is quite understandable given the books targeted audience. Still....)
    If you are interested in what else there is, I can recommend the series "modern harmony" of Alan Belkin here on UA-cam. Just to show that there is indeed a lot more.
    Lastly, please correct me if I am wrong, I stopped to watch his videos a while ago.

    • @valebliz
      @valebliz 3 роки тому

      That’s really interesting and something even I with basic theory knowledge thought of watching a few of his videos. It’s strange most guitar player seem to develop an interest in modal harmony and jazz based theory far too soon, while 95% of what you actually play is usually functional harmony. Any books you might suggest to a beginner?

    • @johannalvarsson9299
      @johannalvarsson9299 3 роки тому

      @@valebliz You mean functional harmony specifically?

    • @valebliz
      @valebliz 3 роки тому

      @@johannalvarsson9299 no, theory in general. A book that starts from what is really relevant for a musician (I’m a guitar player ofc but whatever) without going into stuff like modal harmony while you still lack the knowledge of a lot of more relevant theory.

    • @johannalvarsson9299
      @johannalvarsson9299 3 роки тому +1

      @@valebliz Sadly not really. I can recommend Alan Belkins counterpoint-videos tho. I basically learned like that. First that stuff seems horribly irrelevant since it`s exclusively based on 16/17-century music. People often complain about it being so full of rules etc. But: First, it teaches you to write lines (riffs, solos), which me, being a hobby-rock-guitarist, found way more relevant for my music than chord-progressions. It is also because this focus encompasses things like meter and rhythm. Second, there is no need to follow those exact rules if you are not composing in a historic style. Compare it to painting still lifes. After that, there are more series: "applied harmony" and "modern harmony". All pretty good.

    • @valebliz
      @valebliz 3 роки тому

      @@johannalvarsson9299 thanks!

  • @Naminorite
    @Naminorite 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much for your honest review. Does not matter if we the listener agree or not. That said; I was thinking about getting the book but was concerned as each time I watch a video of his I’m amazed by his knowledge and wish I had the skills however I can’t understand a few minutes into each video. It is impressive, (assuming it is similar to listening to a lecture by Hawking but in the end I personally don’t know anything about the difficult concepts Hawking just spoke on)
    I wish I were at a level but wishing and being are not the same thing. I need a guide for step by step building of my knowledge and skills so I’ll keep looking for another teacher/resource). Thanks again

  • @svenholsten1642
    @svenholsten1642 3 роки тому +6

    Hi KDH, you've described exactly what I was feeling when I opened the Beato book for the 1st time. But to be honest, I didn't buy the book because I was expecting an ingenious approach to music theory. Google and Wikipedia are so much more convienient compared to printed books. The only reason I bought it was to support Ricks channel because I like his videos. And these I get for free. So I'm not super disappointed because the book is rather useless and should not be printed out in total. In no case! It wouldn't be worth the paper. But as a donation it is more than okay. And maybe someday, I will be tempted to look something up in that ebook. You will never know 😉

    • @martinpaddle
      @martinpaddle 3 роки тому +1

      This. It's also the reason I bought the book

    • @davidtomkins4242
      @davidtomkins4242 3 роки тому +5

      yeah, Rick's living on the breadline in that huge studio filled with gear, new computers etc....

    • @martinpaddle
      @martinpaddle 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidtomkins4242 that's not the point. I'm not paying him because I think he's poor, but because I benefit a lot from his content, and this one-off payment is good value for money. If you don't think so, then you're free not to pay and you can still watch his videos. Besides, all that stuff is his work equipment. It's like saying you won't pay the dentist because he has all these expensive tools.

    • @Akherousia502
      @Akherousia502 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@davidtomkins4242 You're absolutely right.
      When we enjoy a content creator, we should determine their relative worth through deconstructing the backgrounds of their videos, and then determine whether or not we want to support them not based on the merit of whether we like their content, but rather whether we think they actually need it to survive.
      'cause, I mean, why invest in things that mean something to you when they're already doing fine!?
      In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic and I think your take on this is stupendously misguided. I'm not one to defend Beato, I think he's a dick if I'm honest, but he is a knowledgeable creator and a lot of musicians have learned a lot from him. If they want to support him, there is nothing wrong with that - even if he's passed that magical little threshold where you personally feel someone is successful enough that they no longer deserve compensation for their work.

    • @davidtomkins4242
      @davidtomkins4242 3 роки тому +4

      @@Akherousia502 my point was coming more from the angle of "I bought something I didn't particularly want, and can't make much use of, just to give Beato some of my money". That's fine when it's a bit of cake at the school summer fair, but £50 on a book you don't really want? The dentist analogy is slightly awry because the dentist provides a service you want/need. If you want to pay a content creator, Patreon provides a route for that. Beato already gets paid from you watching his videos.

  • @markfawcett8112
    @markfawcett8112 3 роки тому

    I totally agree with your review. I had sent an email to them before I bought it and never heard back. so I waited to see if there was a discount code. then once I got it I realized, hey, I cant read music, where is the tab? Hmmmm.
    So really I am using it as a reference, but not really?

  • @erxvlog
    @erxvlog 3 роки тому +4

    Great review. In defense of the digital format, you have access to all the updated editions via download. Doing that with paper would be problematic. Also, it's $49 bucks.....if you are on this channel, you probably have blown way more $$$ on unnecessary gear. I think the price is ok for what you get.

  • @irmasil3
    @irmasil3 Рік тому +1

    There is a reason why you go 8-12 years in the conservatory to learn an instrument and classical music theory. The same reason why you go to school for a similar amount of time. Music is a language. There are no actual shortcuts.

    • @Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow
      @Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow Рік тому +2

      you're right about this in my opinion.. I have read books on music theory but I was never trained in music or how to apply the music theory.. like what do we do with all those guitar chords how do we apply those? I believe 100% if I bought his book I still wouldn't be able to apply any of it you're right there are no short cuts the greatest Musician's spent their whole life in school not from reading a book
      the reality is what it is in San Fran where I used to live there is a school music school conservatory which is super expensive & hard to get into.. Getting into a really good music school is very hard like trying to get into Yale medical school.

    • @irmasil3
      @irmasil3 Рік тому

      @@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow You are right about the costs in some countries. In my homeland access to conservatories are easy and honestly on the cheap side so you can finish your education in music by the time you are finishing high school, if you have started young enough. Higher music education is always costly, similar to going to college or University I guess, but it has to do more about music history, exposition of music beyond classical music theory etc.. and other components related to music rather than formal classical music theory itself. Still, for the average musician a book can take you far enough if its well written AND explains the basics. Otherwise, as you mentioned, being spoon-fed all these shapes without examples and practical knowledge makes them useless.....

  • @Jopeymessmusic
    @Jopeymessmusic 3 роки тому +12

    I enjoy Rick's videos but I will say, his approach definitely takes a while to thaw out. He's very abrasive at times and it took me a while to get used to that. He is obviously very popular and I (along with millions of others) enjoy his breaking down of popular famous music. But as for musical education content? I'm sure his videos and book are stuffed with information, but that's not what makes the subject make sense to people. Adam Neely, Paul Davids and Paul Gilbert have a much better for the average musicians/guitar players.

  • @Matthew4Nineteen
    @Matthew4Nineteen 3 роки тому +2

    I've almost bought this about a dozen times, now i'm really glad I didn't. Thanks for the review!