The Swan Club | 발레교습소 백조클럽 - Ep.6 : The Constant Doubt [ENG/2018.01.17]
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▶ The Swan Club | 발레교습소 백조클럽 - Ep.6
: This week’s episode of The Swan Club is titled, ‘The Constant Doubt’. The audition commences and the members are evaluated for what they have been practiced for so far. Cheng Xiao and Sungeun burst into tears from pressure and regret. After getting over with the tough time, Yoonah carries out the audition looking beautiful and like a real ballerina. The first audition wraps up and the surprising announcement of three members who have passed is revealed.
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As a former ballerina,
I think it's common for the judges to do that, especially about losing weight. and as for some members they rlly need to learn the real basics first, like their points aren't that good. but I have to admit the judges are so impolite and heartless, it's fine to say that to ballerinas but they're just celebrities that are trying their very best in midst off the busy schedule. its normal for ballerinas to get told off like that but the judges need to keep in mind that they aren't. and sure I'm also mad about the way they treated the swans.
Giselle Arielle 👍 I agree. I was in a company before too and I eventually got used to criticisms and just focused on what I need to do, it's a good training ground for the outside world. 😂
Yeonjae must have been having flashbacks from her RG days where she had a strict diet. Imo she's still skinny.
On a side note, I feel like the judges gave valid criticism. Like Chengxiao should only move by her joints and be more stiff. If I were in their position, I would have whole heartedly take the criticism given to me. It was nice how it was constructive rather than, 'your face is pretty' or something that didn't have to do with their dancing at all
Tina I think Chengxiao was crying because of the emotions inside her building up. I used to auditions a couple of times too, the nervousness and pressure also the criticisms added up together that made her cry or maybe she was disappointed with herself too. I felt some sort of sympathy toward her for her first time auditioning also she wasn't majored in ballet so it's understandable.
+NINA #mementoMORI
yeah, I agree with you too
I think the judges try to show how ballet really is instead of going soft because they are celebrities. I don't feel mad about them but I do think the consolation words are the end were absolutely needed. After all the swans are not professional and they gave everything to be on the show
I was in shock when Cheng Xiao passed. She was the one with the most harsh comments in my opinion so i figured she wouldnt have passed, but im so proud of her! Im so proud of everyone!! And one thing that made me extremely happy is that the ones that didnt pass are given a second chance to re-audition! The way they worded the judging was harsh, like "IF YOU DIDN'T PASS, YOURE NOT PERFORMING AT ALL!" When that wasnt the case at all, they still have a chance of performing with the re-audition. But I'm mostly proud of Yoonah. She really impressed me and like that man said, she really did have the physical appearance of a ballerina! She did so amazing and i was clapping like a seal when she finished her performance! I knew she was going to pass.
It really annoys me on any platform of auditions or any other place where the judges have the opportunity to critique, when they say sooooo many things to fix to the first person, but to the second person there will be compliments among a small amount of critiques for the second person. And yet it's the first person who will get the better score and get in.
Im not staying they shouldnt critique, but i am saying that if they want then to genuinely get better, let the first girl know what she's done right and give the second more constructive criticism without being an a**
Imo
I love their hard work so muchh.. expecially Jiwon and Chengxiao who always get high expectation and harsh words
I don’t feel like the judges were too harsh they obviously were impressed by the swans but they have to judge like a professional. Since The dance company will have a certain standard for the dancers since it’s their reputation. And with that 3 of them passed and 3 reaudition is a great result for me. I see the judges really want to help them out by consider about their potential and let them re audition
It's harsh for Cheng Xiao since she's not even a full time ballerina. She debuted as an idol not ballerina. 😒😒😒
Anaria John it’s harsh for everyone. Some never even did dance before. At least Chen’s Xiao majored in Chinese dance for a long time. Also None of them were actual ballerinas except one. And although yeonjae is a rhythmic gymnast, gymnastics is ultimately different than ballet, yes there’s ballet techniques involved but gymnastics is still different from ballet.
Well agreed. Anyone who said it was too harsh just never attend ballet school. It's such an usual thing to hear harsh words. But it's for the sake of us as ballerinas
I cried so much when Yoonah passed the audition--in my opinion, she's shown the most growth as a dancer since episode 1 and I'm just so proud of her
Before I start watching, I just want to say im really grateful for the english subs!
I love Jumi, she's always so relaxed and peaceful
And it's amazing to see the oldest members pf the swan club do such an amazing job, how can they still have such a nice body??
Omg this episode got me holding my breath. I was nervous just from watching them audition
Chen xiao is literally the busiest out of all of the swans . She is constantly performing just because she is flexible and did chinese classical dance 8 years ago don’t mean shit. The other swans have more time on their hands because they’re not constantly traveling and going on stage. The judges judged her way too harshly just because she has “dance background”
cheng xiao always try to hide the hurt. watching her held back those tears makes me cry too😭😭
As a ballerina, I think the judges had in mind the backgrounds of every dancer. About the harsh comments, in ballet you always gonna get those comments lol like the judge said: ¨I hate to say those things, but I have no other choice¨. It's stressful but Its the only way you can grow up and learn.
I like that they get the opportunity to have an audition and play a role, I mean yes some of them needen a little more of practice but is what this show is about, let ballerinas from different backgounds an opportunity to dance. And comparing of the first episodes they improved a lot, specially Yonnah I was surprised by her.
Well the Cheng Xiao didn't major in ballet right?
Yoon-A unnie reminds me a lot of Yewon unnie from Sister's Slam Dunk. The under dog who train their hardest and always putting their best face/attitude and ending up as one of the best member. Am I the only one who think so?
Lindsay Eric
omg same!! they kinda look alike too
My maknae Cheng Xiao nailed it. She's one of a kind.😍😍
Don't worry Cheng Xiao, tears aren't weakness, it just shows how strong your passion is. Jiayou!!
I see there are lots of people who watch this because they knew someone before the show:) I just found it in rommendations and it's sooo good, I truly wonder why there are only 20-70k views for this show. Jiwon instantly became my favorite one, she's been in this industry much more than any of the swans yet she's still very down to Earth, always tries to help other girls when they struggle. I feel like judges never say anything good to her (ofc, they expect from her a lot) but I think there must be not only constructive criticism but also a little bit of encouragement (though others get it a lot). The more advanced girls are the more critics they get (happened also to Cheng Xiao).
Other than that, all girls are awesome and interesting to watch. THANKS FOR ENG SUBS!
Despite the results I'm proud of the. They did their best but has anyone seen someone cry so prettily as Cheng Xiao. Oh my goodness I was moves to tears at the end of the results.
I know this is almost completely unrelated but Director Kim is left handed😱 and as a lefty I get so excited to see a fellow left handed person so to who ever took the time to read this well I hope you have a great day
I'm a grown ass man who knows nothing about ballet but hey, Cheng Xiao and best girl Yeonjae are here I can't help but to watch on
I can't wait for next week!! I hope Jiwon is ok!!!
The results were WOW a turnaround
I totally didn't expect Cheng Xiao to go through! It's such a relief she made it!
Wow jiwon dances so beautiful like so elegant like a true swan ✨
I love director kim and yoona
Im amazed at Jiwon's perf 😍😍😍 just more than WOW 😆
Jiwon unnie please stop making me worried ㅠㅠ if you can't achieve what you can do, that makes me feel even more suffocated. Fightinggg I'm rooting for you
Happy for Cheng xiao
congrats cheng xiao ..
I'm always sad in the way that they treat Jiwon💔
smileyshanice i agree with u
i think it's because they see so much potential she has. I mean she's been doing ballet since her was so little.
for me, they didn't treat her wrong. as joowon said, she's the most technically advanced so they wanted her to bring all of her passion in ballet once again like they are doing to other members
That's because of Shes the best
45:54 “It’s just that ballet can be quite merciless.” Yup, that’s true since I’m a ballerina myself too🙆🏻
Been through audition myself, I know how the harsh comments can get you feel like, but they did motivate me to work on my weakness.
people think that when someone cries they consider that certain person to be weak and not strong enough to stop their tears but it’s actually the complete opposite..
Wow, this show has me waiting all weeks eagerly for the new chapter aaaaaaaaa
Man these auditions had me experiencing all their emotions, so intenseeeeeeee
yeonjae is so cute being chubby though :-(
it is dangerous to dance ballet en pointe when you weight too much. Put too much pressure on the toes and ankles.
I wouldn't even say she's chubby. she's probably healthy weight for someone her age and as a retired athlete because her muscle mass would be different from doing gymnastics! But she is adorable!!
icedwhite mocha she doesn't even do pointe. and i know multiple overweight dancers who do pointe
fries well it's not that they can't do it. It's that it will hurt them in the long run and it's more dangerous to do it when you are heavy. Ballet requires you to be thin. Otherwise the lines just look sloppy. If you want to succeed in ballet you have to sacrifice a lot including losing weight.
Well none of the swans will do anything with ballet. It's just a hobby. Their weights are perfect and their lines beautiful. Sure, technique wise some suck but that's just repetition and classes and training all over again. The same goes for lean muscles, it's not a question of weight, it's just their muscles aren't elongated enough which comes with the specific ballet training. Also, you can do pointe being in a healthy weight without suffering any injuries or putting stress on your joints as long as you develop the proper technique.
oh yoonah is unbelievably beautiful
omg cant wait for the next episode im so worried about jiwon's accident
I love how supportive they are of each other! It amazes me! I friggin’ love this show! ❤️
re-audittioning must feel like having to redo your exams -______-
But this is really like a life and death situation coz it's actually a show so in the end everyone will get casted but in a ballet school when you are told to re- audition you might not even be casted so re doing your exams is actually easier than re auditioning
Oh Yoonah makes me wanna learn ballet
Jiwon fighting!!!
stop giving me heartattacks Jiwon Dx
Yoonah so pretty, good job yoonah.
I was once in a competing unit and the commandant kept saying we were no good, so we kept on practicing. We were so surprised and relieved that we did well on the day of the competition. All that criticism pushed us to practice which paid off. Hahaha!
I can't wait another week. . .
Watched this as soon as I saw it on my feed ! !
Yoona 💜 fighting
It's obviously normal for judges to say that actually. Wang Jiwon fightiiingggg.
To those who thinks judges were so harsh, I think they didn't really have to lower the standard for them. That's kinda of respect the judges give to them like they can do so much better and the judges know.
오윤아씨 멋져요!^^
Thank you for uploading the full episode here with eng sub.. Really love this show..
I don't want Yeonjae lose weight, because it is bad for health! And i'm glad to see her here again!
I like the fact that the judges are so harsh and they don't care about the show. For them it's real. It's a show they have to put on. They cannot be soft spoken and be lighter on these dancers (and yes I say dancers cause that's what they are here) just cause of a show. They started this knowing that it's gonna be hard and if they expected the judges or anyone to go easy on them cause they're celebrities, they shouldn't even have started. This show was made to show the hardships of a ballerina and because the girls wanted to be a ballerina or something similar. Just my opinion.
love this program am i the only one who think yeonjae look like kim go eun
My heart was beating so hard when it was time for the results
I love you girls!!! you will become a great ballet dancers!!
Yeon jae 😍
Heartless judges. BLINKING!!! Like the last person in the balcony can see her blink from there. smh
Joseph Talks alot lol but she still passed right, so shut up
52:29 omg did i heard megan nicole-summer forever?😍
People need to stop being so sensitive. It's constructive criticism, that is what judges do. Everything they said, was them trying to help them and improve. Stop taking everything so serious.
looking at the comments, I think a lot of people here haven't done school sports or something that has a judge. How can you improve when all you hear are compliments and sugar coated critiques? The best performers in the world have gone through Hell to become where they are now. I remember my team getting yelled at and criticized 80% of the time, but we became the best in state cause of it! Judges are not trying to destroy you or bring you down, they are just being blunt and telling it to you how it is because they WANT you to succeed. You think judges enjoy seeing people try hard at things and fail? Think again.
@@Alice-cb7jg I went to national dance academy. No, in my experience, that's just how we work it in the academy. I don't care whatsoever view on what we had. The think is, we produced international level dancers, some of us win world tournaments and performed in prestige shows . Result speaks.
Although I do believe some jury/judges were bought but bought or not, their attitude are all the same at world level.
I do appreciate and never have regret of my experience there. It build me of what I am today. I do dance professionally for 10 years now, mostly ballet and bharatanatyam. Now, I'm already have my own small dance academy, teaching teenagers and adults to appreciate the arts. Here at the academy, we used soft and warmth approach as we are dealing with non-professional dancers. Hence it suits the purpose and objective.
However, whenever my former school invite me to be jury or judge, I will be as strict as hell in order to press for the finesse talent there is. This is important that the students will understand the reality that they will face in real world. FYI, this is how real world works. If you are not it, they will cut you out.
I went to auditions and performed for shows everywhere during my years as performer. USA, Hungary, France, Russia (where the most hellish, notorious 'groups' are), Italy etc...
*None of them apply soft hearted, warmth welcoming hug dear. They just nod callously if they want you, and won't even look at you if they think you are a trash. Nobody will shed smile and praise you for your effort to even be there as a foreign contestant.*
So, we can only cross finger as we don't get fucked up and hope for the best, the entire time.
39:27 i honestly thought they were cursing but then I realised that they were mentioning their names but they edited it so that we wouldn’t know who it is😂
I felt so sad for jiwon because even she did her best they think didn't enough
Even though this is a real audition I think if that were me I would’ve cried a lot because of how harsh that judge was
I can't believe it that Jiwon have to re audition
24:04 I heard nayana 😂 too much produce 101 season 2
but for jiwon, didn't the judges literally TELL her "that's all we'll see for now" or something???
I agree with the judge comment. I'm from the Phil. and we produce best dancer not only in ballet but also in theater. the number 66 best ballet dancer in the world Lisa Macuja-Elizalde from our country said that becoming a pro in this field will take 4 to 6 years everyday training and there's no short cut in this field and you need to start early to avoid injuries so their criticism is acceptable but i also agree that they could have said it in a nice way. Although they lack the basic but i'm still rooting for them to perform well and be part of the final show. Swan Club fighting!!!!
Still disappointed that they didn’t make Cheng Xiao the Chinese doll :(
Yoonah is definitely my favorite swan
The judges were real harsh on the first girl. Blinking is a bad thing.
When you're trying to portray a wooden doll? Yes, it is. They have standards and expectations, the audition is to test whether or not they could meet them.
She's Cheng Xiao from China
thx for english sub 😍😍
some of the judges comments against certain swans, i feel like they would have torn them down regardless of how well they did - if only to 'uphold the honor of the art' against a capable amateur coming in and doing well for an amateur.
i feel really bad for cheng xiao :'(
19:28 omg wfkbj's ost "dreaming" aww♥️ am i right? ehehe
Help I cry everytime they start crying :/
Judges are supposed to he straight forward
omg nothing bad happened to jiwon, right?
bijiaen she most likely sprained her ankle in my opinion in next week's preview
39:48 I laugh way to hard at this XD
Jumi looks like Krystal
I feel that the judges were too harsh to Cheng Xiao...... after their "constructive critcism" Cheng Xiao started crying..... poor thing. Like their idols with very busy schedules....
Iona Hegde i agree that the comments were a little harsh for her, and she has every right to cry if she wanted to.. but you have to realize that the reason she was given those comments is because they all know how she and yeonjae are one of the better dancer, they will have higher expectations for them. It sounded harsh coming from them but I knew what they were trying to tell her. She was never trained in ballet, but they knew how much of a great dancer she is
jef marquez it’s very unnecessary because they aren’t professional ballerinas, it’s only a hobby. Even that is a stretch because it’s just a tv show. They’re busy idols especially Chen xiao who constantly travels and performs on stage
When Jiwon has a very minor stumble the judges reaction wouldn’t have helped
He said the perfornpmence didn't fit the image for everyone
Although i see the girls giving some expressions, it seems very less compared to a style i learn. Is it natural to not give expression in every part of the dance?
No it's not, Tears makes us to be true to ourselves, it helps us ALOT
Where are they getting the Nutcracker videos from?
Are ballet auditions really that harsh?I only have experience with acting auditions.
Anyway,it doesn’t matter how experienced you are in your art,auditions can always be terrifying.When I used to act,I had a terrible habit of just collapsing to the floor and sobbing outside the audition room after an audition
How I wish twice mina could join this show.
Its not too late for me to attend a ballet class at the age of 17, right?
EatableVirusMon To be a professional maybe it is. As a hobby there is no age limit
The thing that Annoys me is that they call a la seconde turns fouettes. FOUETTES AND A LA SECONDE IS A DIFFERENT THING.
ANYONE KNOW THE BACKGROUND MUSIC AT 11:22????
I don't know exactly why, but I feel as if the judges were overly harsh to Cheng Xiao...
edit: I saw the results .3.
Girl at SGHS IKR she got reprimanded for her eye???
Hmmm its probably a detail thing. They're were probably watching her and imagining how it might look in stage or change the feel of her character.
Gladys Wong Yeah, but when I went back they told the others both compliments and criticism, but they only criticized her without telling her what was good about her performance. They results show that they liked what she had to offer, but they still seemed a little more harsh on her during evaluation than with the others.
I feel like they should have switched Cheng Xiao and Sungeun's roles... Their expressions were a match for the opposite roles, in my opinion. And plus, Cheng Xiao really knows how to move her body so fluidly, what were they thinking giving her such a stiff dance? Barely shows off her true talent.
ranma2chan I 100% agree
9:32 she should be telling him that I think she looks good,
Like wtf
I want this show but after I saw that they are quite harsh to the contestants
I rather watch Idol producer since ethat show isn't harsh like this show cause I don't want any contestants to get hurt or being forced to do something that they don't want to do.
I felt sad about the others who didn't get in cause I really think they did a good job.
Since I was a ballerina once the judges really does have to be strict BUT not harsh cause it can make the contestants loose their confidence and not join the contest.....
the bgm at 10:12 was a song i liked but couldnot remember the name :((( can someone tell me?
11:22 what is the name of the bgm here?
To the Point:...Treat it as (1) an exercise & (b) hot chocolate & marshmellows afterwards. Time to enjoy an exercise & treat, my friend. (Son Yeon Jae).
성소님 기 죽지 마세요.
Its for own safety..
55.10 what song??
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What the song that plays at 11:22
Damn HAGO ads are so cringy
It's not free to perform perfectly, u know?