2023 BMW 3-Series facelift REVIEW M Sport 330i - all updates for the G20!

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  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +17

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    00:00 2023 BMW 3-Series Facelift in M Brooklyn grey
    00:43 New headlamps design with adaptive Matrix LED
    01:50 Length and wheels
    02:30 Black window frames now standard
    02:53 Rear design 330i with real exhausts
    03:25 Key fobs and doors
    03:53 Perforated Sensatec seats
    04:25 New dual screen setup
    04:41 Seating position
    05:07 Cockpit overview with curved screen
    06:04 BMW OS8 infotainment
    07:11 Digital instruments and Head-up-Display (HUD)
    07:34 Rear seating
    08:14 Trunk / boot (sedan)
    08:30 Engines - which to pick?
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    • @MRRBAH
      @MRRBAH 2 роки тому

      Can you get ventilated seats as an option?

    • @aqillexotic
      @aqillexotic 2 роки тому

      which is better M3 COMPETITION or M340I?

    • @nunocarvalho7574
      @nunocarvalho7574 Рік тому

      When bmw will launch the 4 series lci? Thanks

  • @derekwhyle1884
    @derekwhyle1884 2 роки тому +250

    Positive click manual controls mean I can change most heat/ ventilation settings on my older model without taking my eyes off the road. Sometimes less really is more.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +23

      agree

    • @Matwiej19
      @Matwiej19 2 роки тому +14

      Complete agree. Everyone but Everyone says that tactile buttons are better regarding the brand. Yet all of them going for those touchscreens. When u driving in busy traffic is actually dangerous.

    • @polichic
      @polichic 2 роки тому +4

      But you command this by voice to be safer

    • @Matwiej19
      @Matwiej19 2 роки тому +6

      @@polichic yep. You can. I got 6 moths old 7 series. But is something nice and simple when changing the AC or other things using buttons. Plus is instant. I got new software (my bmw when through the check up service) and it work quit well but still is not as fast as taking the AC Dail and change manually. The same heated seats. But it does work that is a fact.

    • @derekwhyle1884
      @derekwhyle1884 2 роки тому +1

      @@polichicso you don’t look to confirm your voice commands have been acted upon??

  • @nateisright
    @nateisright 2 роки тому +676

    If BMW listened to drivers, they would realize that climate/comfort controls should be physical buttons. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @pullformore
      @pullformore 2 роки тому +18

      what's wrong with saying "I'm hot" (or, "I'm cold") and letting it take care of it? I test drove an i4 last weekend, it worked perfectly.

    • @BMWF30-416
      @BMWF30-416 2 роки тому +49

      Honestly I’m not a fan of the infotainment display either

    • @vroomkeys
      @vroomkeys 2 роки тому +12

      Didn’t they listen to drivers by getting rid of the huge front grille they introduced a few years ago??

    •  2 роки тому +59

      @@pullformore saying “Hey BMW” …. Ok try again “HEY BMW!!!” …. “What can I help you?” - “i’m hot” . Is this conversation easier for you than pressing the climate control button 2 times ?

    • @D33tsz
      @D33tsz 2 роки тому +26

      Completely agree! I also think that having all the controls on screen will make car accidents more likely...

  • @luciteck
    @luciteck 2 роки тому +174

    it is clearly a cost saving LCI. No more laser lights, headlights missing the design complexity of the current G20 (e46 style knick), no more physical buttons for the climatization area, no more physical touch sensitive shortcut buttons and so on. I prefer the current G20 line.

    • @mattbuffo9967
      @mattbuffo9967 2 роки тому +5

      could also be because of the chip shortage still i think the laser lights are gone because of each countries regulations

    • @mydimeisup5103
      @mydimeisup5103 2 роки тому +12

      Yeah because they were lasers they had a tough time with the lights. Personally I haven't seen any major advantage over lasers compared to matrix LED headlights.

    • @Chris-hy6jy
      @Chris-hy6jy 2 роки тому +14

      Cost saving for BMW but not the customer. You can guarantee they will up the price again for this LCI.

    • @joellarrysr9977
      @joellarrysr9977 2 роки тому +1

      LED tech is better ..

    • @Brian-jv8iy
      @Brian-jv8iy 2 роки тому +1

      @@mydimeisup5103 laser and led are two separate things

  • @titibobo2000
    @titibobo2000 2 роки тому +134

    No gear lever, no function buttons, no physical climate controls... I'm so sad. With this new gear selector switch, the paddle shifters are a must have.
    The big screens don't fit so well IMO. They could've tried to fit it directly to the dash and shape the edges somehow. If the BMW sign is removed, the interior could be of any car, VW for example.

    • @georgeellis4178
      @georgeellis4178 2 роки тому +5

      Very definitely could be a Skoda at the front if you took the badge off. I once mistook an F90 M5 LCI as a Skoda from a distance

    • @davidperry3531
      @davidperry3531 2 роки тому +5

      I agree that the loss of the traditional gear shifter is a backward move. At least it hasn't been moved to the steering column. The big screens hide the attractive dash lines that the G20 has but I guess it was inevitable that BMW move to the larger screens but I'm still not convinced.

    • @thelian_
      @thelian_ 2 роки тому +6

      Very soon every car's interiors will be the same, no matter the brand. Generic big screens means cheaper production for everyone.

    • @mihnealazar7039
      @mihnealazar7039 2 роки тому +1

      This is a combination of the new BMW interior design philosophy and the old one, so yeah it’s kinda in between. But check out the iX and i7. While very different than what we were used to, you cannot mistake those for some other brand. Not if you have an eye for design at least. But even if you didn’t, the i7 interior is praised for being the best in its class so hard to mistake that for sth else.

    • @dexinzhang4637
      @dexinzhang4637 2 роки тому

      damn right bro

  • @Francisco-sx7th
    @Francisco-sx7th 2 роки тому +15

    Thomas, you are always the first to show and review new models or releases. Congrats to have made your channel so reactive.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +7

      in your service! Please recommend :-)

  • @mariorr308
    @mariorr308 2 роки тому +7

    this guy is great performer, real pro : voice, info transition approach, accents. Very cool!

  • @petripaa
    @petripaa 2 роки тому +101

    The design is spot on at front. On the rear the diffuser / black plastic part is bit too prominent, but I might change my mind when I see the car in real life. Pre-LCI interior with iDrive 7 and real A/C controls was slightly better in my opinion.

    • @faran1684
      @faran1684 2 роки тому +1

      BMW body styling is very much the same over the years with minor tweaks. Mercedes on the other hand is continuously innovating and making major changes to body style and design of the car in all classes in general. Mercedes ahead in game comparing to competitor. Mercedes all the way

    • @mydimeisup5103
      @mydimeisup5103 2 роки тому +2

      @@faran1684 The new EQS just looks like a big melted blob. Their current A, C, E, and S class look good though but they dropped the ball with the EQS.

    • @rockhop8595
      @rockhop8595 2 роки тому +4

      I fully agree, the diffuser rear is atrocious

    • @alh06
      @alh06 2 роки тому +2

      @@faran1684 Lmao, Mercedes is continuously changing yes. But instead into fat, amorphous similar-looking blobs vs. good designs.

    • @Ltm-ek3qy
      @Ltm-ek3qy 2 роки тому +1

      @@faran1684 😂

  • @kaym7549
    @kaym7549 2 роки тому +89

    When I saw the exterior, I was happy because it looks great on every angle/side. But the interior, so underwhelming. That screen works so well on the other BMWs but here it just doesnt fit well with the design language of the cabin. The gear shifter, I'm in tears. This is a 3 series.

    • @mihnealazar7039
      @mihnealazar7039 2 роки тому +7

      The next get 3 series will be electric only so this is kind of a transition.

  • @spatchi
    @spatchi 2 роки тому +7

    So glad I bought my 2022 330i Touring pre-facelift. Love it and still have dials and buttons :)

  • @Rocky-xx2zg
    @Rocky-xx2zg 2 роки тому +18

    Great that they addressed the front grill redesign, and did not impose that horrible over size 'cow pusher 'grill.

  • @blueb4829
    @blueb4829 2 роки тому +20

    That big display seems like an afterthought. It is not even physically integrated into the dashboard; just placed on top of it.

    • @_JRJ
      @_JRJ 2 роки тому +1

      no thought in design at all

  • @andyb9664
    @andyb9664 2 роки тому +3

    The lighting in the studio is so good 👏

  • @billalnawaz
    @billalnawaz 2 роки тому +11

    Had a fully spec’d out 2021 330e that had the laser lights… They were insane! So so good! But such an expensive option, and for the most part did well at moving the beam around to not dazzle. But the distance you could see at night was just crazy I remember. Shame they’re gone!

    • @Elmasryq
      @Elmasryq 2 роки тому +2

      Chip shortage...they will be back at some point.

  • @nelz2012
    @nelz2012 2 роки тому +40

    It’s funny how with the 3-series and 5-series alike, the basic roofline and side profile above the door sills has remained largely unchanged for 20 years or so. If you cover up the side of the car, only revealing the windows and roof, you can’t tell if the car is new, or 15 years old.

    • @bh2155
      @bh2155 2 роки тому

      Very true German's are not big on changing the look of their vehicles just look at Audi. Actually that is true with most vehicles especially SUVs and trucks

    • @royfontaine5526
      @royfontaine5526 2 роки тому

      Not sure I agree, but surely this is a good thing?

    • @Brian-jv8iy
      @Brian-jv8iy 2 роки тому

      Not really, the e92s look a lot more modern than G20s

    • @royfontaine5526
      @royfontaine5526 2 роки тому +3

      @@Brian-jv8iy e92s look ancient now!

    • @IsmailBahhane
      @IsmailBahhane 2 роки тому

      @@royfontaine5526 E92 is like wine, the older it gets the better it becomes. The E90 on the other hand was from the get-go an absolute abomination, no wonder Top Gear considered it the ugliest car of the year in 2005.

  • @grahamhealy5171
    @grahamhealy5171 2 роки тому +26

    I just bought a 2020 330i, I'm so happy that I did. Really not happy with the direction of this facelift.

    • @philipp8099
      @philipp8099 2 роки тому

      2022 330i - totally agree with you stranger ;)

    • @andrew22334455
      @andrew22334455 2 роки тому +3

      Got a 2020 330i from new. Happy that I didn't wait for this one, as I'm not a fan of the new interior. Bring back the buttons!

    • @cryptolord9826
      @cryptolord9826 2 роки тому

      You just lost a lot I would of waited for new model

    • @grahamhealy5171
      @grahamhealy5171 2 роки тому +1

      @@cryptolord9826 I don't fully agree, I got full options, that you can't even get today due to chip shortage and I really already liked the design + iDrive 7 & considering the current car market I don't think I'll have any trouble moving it on in the future for something different. 😊😊Everyone has their own tastes though! :D

    • @mattbuffo9967
      @mattbuffo9967 2 роки тому

      i have the 2019 330i fully loaded looks like i won’t be upgrading anytime soon

  • @michelebicc6983
    @michelebicc6983 2 роки тому +2

    Thomas and Autogefühl: N.1 as always!

  • @SWAGAUTODETAILING
    @SWAGAUTODETAILING 2 роки тому +16

    I'm huge BMW Fan, i have 4 models E46 / E92 / F12 and F15, but this new design language is not my cup of tee.
    Huge Grills, side line, triangle bumper design, 1m interior cluster... BMW need back to the root.
    For me only few models have bmw feeling for example: G30 5 / G05 X5 but without rear lamps / G32 - 6 / G15 & G14 without rear lamps.

  • @SuperEtab
    @SuperEtab 2 роки тому +14

    I have a 2020 330i and 2021 A4. I always thought BMW had the best electronic shifter. It was the most intuitive out of all the German brands. I am disappointed to see it go.

  • @frankhummel84
    @frankhummel84 2 роки тому +36

    When I saw the exterior design I was literally thrilled, it looks way better than the original G20, however the interior just switched me off. That’s not any close to a car that is known through out of its generations as sports car. The dashboard is soo boring, the shift boring, I felt that I need to be 70 years guy to by this thing. Bmw’s always has that interior persona, this one not even close to. As a matter of it looks like a Mercedes.
    Hate it

  • @InteriorDesignAnderson
    @InteriorDesignAnderson 2 роки тому +110

    I don’t know why BMW design has to be so fussy these days. I do like the new headlights and it’s good to see the grill hasn’t got any bigger.

    • @michaelkillerman
      @michaelkillerman 2 роки тому +11

      They went for the huge grill to please chinese market, the biggest on premium vehicles.

    • @murrynathan
      @murrynathan 2 роки тому +1

      @/// M you have the coolest YT handle ever!

    • @jamessmeyer
      @jamessmeyer 2 роки тому +2

      The headlights are like the only think that changed so what is so fussy about that?

    • @keino111689
      @keino111689 2 роки тому +3

      @@jamessmeyer 🤔 ummm….the weird angular kidneys, the grille curving up onto the hood, all the black cladding. It’s all way too fussy and looks cheap.

    • @Tomoyo0827
      @Tomoyo0827 2 роки тому +2

      @@michaelkillerman Bigger grills are just a trend, every luxury brand has got big grills, they are not just for the Chinese market.

  • @eramg6324
    @eramg6324 2 роки тому +63

    Buttons, gear lever, why remove……geez! Deal killer for this 20’ 3 series lease customer.

    • @Cvak01
      @Cvak01 2 роки тому +9

      Look how they massacred my boy :(

    • @bvedant
      @bvedant 2 роки тому

      Gonna buy out your lease?

    • @D10N1S101985
      @D10N1S101985 2 роки тому +5

      Agree. I prefer my current G20 anyday, so in that respect we are lucky. I don’t like the new headlights, or the screen which looks too big and just “stuck on” either.

    • @sherin7444
      @sherin7444 2 роки тому

      besides 10 hp less for m340i

    • @BMWWolf
      @BMWWolf 2 роки тому

      I happen to love this refresh. That interior screen is a bummer though

  • @ravington666
    @ravington666 2 роки тому +8

    4:26.....OMG.....that screen support on the passenger side ! Why would you do that in 2022 ?

  • @Bahle_Gaji
    @Bahle_Gaji 2 роки тому +8

    I’m obviously not the target market for this vehicle considering that I am 20 years old and a student but the interior was better on the pre-facelift considering that, for me at least, the infotainment was better. The wide screen with no hood on top of the driver side screen with the separated infotainment screen was better.

  • @Mark-zv8mg
    @Mark-zv8mg 2 роки тому +12

    I’m defo team black frames around the doors, which in the UK 🇬🇧 we don’t always get the option for like on the Mercedes GLC at the moment there is no option for black frames!

  • @ScottPC
    @ScottPC 2 роки тому +5

    FINALLY! BMW listen to the comments on exterior style. Back to classic BMW design... THANK YOU!

    • @ravenheart369
      @ravenheart369 2 роки тому

      Basically they said it before.
      They said that for higher end products like 7 series they prefer radical designs as they have less customers due to their price tags and for more popular and affordable series like 5 and 3 series they stick to more conervstive designing

  • @Progamer8012
    @Progamer8012 2 роки тому +12

    The headlights are nice but the m sport bumper looks less aggressive than the pre LCI

  • @drewsykes8152
    @drewsykes8152 2 роки тому +35

    Preferred when the two kidneys didn’t join and there was body colour between them but so much better than any other recent BMW design - Also the less fussy wing mirrors!

    • @oven5997
      @oven5997 2 роки тому

      new 3's Exterior is pretty good, interior is meh.. other BMW (except 5 series) are disgusting

  • @Leskylor
    @Leskylor 2 роки тому +10

    Hey Thomas, thanks for bringing it on time as always! I strongly believe the previous design was much appealing as I think the new daytime running lights and interior screen are not really fitting the car. So again a back step from BMW in terms of design.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +1

      thanks for tuning in !

    • @razorzz2
      @razorzz2 2 роки тому +1

      I have to sadly agree. I don't like this kind of interior and it looses BMWs character.

  • @MustafaTULU32
    @MustafaTULU32 2 роки тому +58

    Screens on the dashboard looks ugly. I wish they would not remove the shifter. Physical buttons are always better when driving so sad that they are gone. As a G20 owner, I don't consider upgrading. I think Audi is the only remaining company that designs dashboard like it is used to be.

    • @OzInfidel
      @OzInfidel 2 роки тому +6

      As another G20 owner, I agree with you but the problem with A4 and C class are that I despise their fake exhaust outlets.

    • @MustafaTULU32
      @MustafaTULU32 2 роки тому +1

      @@OzInfidel I totally agree:)

    • @m.b9207
      @m.b9207 2 роки тому +2

      Hele sukur anlayan biri var. Eyv.

    •  2 роки тому

      Agree %100

    • @thiccboi1726
      @thiccboi1726 2 роки тому +7

      People always complain about Bmw designs no matter what because it’s one of the most popular brands, when the interior has physical buttons and was driver oriented people complained about it being outdated, now people complain about it being too plain without the buttons

  • @ahlsn7346
    @ahlsn7346 2 роки тому +116

    I'm taking delivery on a 330e M-Sport in a week. Very happy that I didn't wait for this update. The new screens looks awful and I hate the trend of removing physical buttons for climate control etc. The new lights looks quite good but so does the current laser lights which I got. Overall I think this was a downgrade in every way.

    • @seekthetruths22
      @seekthetruths22 2 роки тому +11

      Good for you, but I can't remember any previous BMWs that were downgraded by LCI in my BMW owning history, other than some subjective preferences on styling elements. BMW traditionally makes a lot of meaningful and yet invisible changes for LCI, which makes a vast amount of improvements in driving experience. I would definitely choose a post-LCI model any day of the week over the original one.

    • @Mdxceed2
      @Mdxceed2 2 роки тому

      How much?

    • @dotgreenery
      @dotgreenery 2 роки тому +10

      You should have waited This upgrade looks superior

    • @SnjurCro
      @SnjurCro 2 роки тому +8

      Inside looking cheap like Tesla/Kia :( really downgraded interior.

    • @seekthetruths22
      @seekthetruths22 2 роки тому +2

      @@SnjurCro I have a 2021 330i. Would I choose it over the LCI model if I had a choice ? Hell no...

  • @robertvanzant2653
    @robertvanzant2653 2 роки тому +15

    Thomas regards to the plug in hybrid , was there any indication will there be an increase in battery size or electric range ? For the 330E

    • @7ludi
      @7ludi 2 роки тому +1

      It's the same

    • @antwonefernandez7554
      @antwonefernandez7554 2 роки тому +1

      I'm in a late 2021 in the UK and getting 30miles electric. I think I expected a bigger battery in this too. 40 is the new 30...

  • @cardiffst
    @cardiffst 2 роки тому +18

    Losing the ‘hot keys’ is a deal breaker for me. I’ll stick with my 2019, thank you.

  • @Pouya82
    @Pouya82 2 роки тому +10

    Matrix LED is in my opinion not on PAR with Laser Lights. I had my 330e in for service and got a 4-series with Matrix LED and the high beem was noticable worse than my car with laser lights.

    • @herbst963
      @herbst963 2 роки тому +1

      It might be important in the US, but in Europe? I do twice a year 2000km trips crossing 3 EU countries, night and day conditions. I recall using highbeam in no more than 3 occasions in each trip (and Very shortly). Roads are constantly full over here...

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 2 роки тому

      @@herbst963 It isn't available in the US

  • @tomdesigner
    @tomdesigner 2 роки тому +1

    Thomas, Awesome short review - great job! :-) I like it. You are the best car presenter on UA-cam. New 3-series outside looks clean and modern - I think it's good move forwards. I hope people who buy this car would be happy. Greetings!

  • @ggmma6315
    @ggmma6315 2 роки тому +50

    The new interior screen looks awful compared to the previous version

  • @isaiahjuan5397
    @isaiahjuan5397 2 роки тому

    Very thorough. Love that you talked about laser light and showed the key

  • @aidenp5768
    @aidenp5768 2 роки тому +20

    The gauge cluster and shifter … no

  • @Shawshank00
    @Shawshank00 2 роки тому +4

    Probably the only design to come out from BMW recently that i like. I'll be upgrading from my F30 when i can.

  • @lionelb8227
    @lionelb8227 2 роки тому +5

    This is the kind of BMW I like to see. A classic really great looking sedan that keeps evolving by little touches where it needs to

    • @brianlee9233
      @brianlee9233 2 роки тому

      I agree. Love the *cough cough* appropriately sized grille and the redesign.

    • @nessuno5403
      @nessuno5403 2 роки тому

      It didn't need that massive iDrive screen. Should have left it for next generation.

    • @sfiso9854
      @sfiso9854 2 роки тому +2

      @@nessuno5403 then people would complain saying it's outdated

    • @nessuno5403
      @nessuno5403 2 роки тому

      @@sfiso9854 no they wouldn't, because outside and the rest of the cabin is the same as before. Even the steering wheel doesn't progress to haptic controls. This is a poorly timed and misplaced change.

  • @_Atomic_impact
    @_Atomic_impact 2 роки тому +1

    I like these shorter type of video’s Thomas! Looking sharp!

  • @owjianbang01
    @owjianbang01 2 роки тому +7

    Yeah thomas, bmw should keep the latest gear knob… love the G20 pre-face lifted version

  • @premiersolutions2820
    @premiersolutions2820 2 роки тому +28

    As a G20 330i M Sport owner, i prefer my current model compared to this new facelift model.

    • @axcn4733
      @axcn4733 2 роки тому +6

      Stop lying yourself

    • @m.b9207
      @m.b9207 2 роки тому +5

      I agree

    • @D10N1S101985
      @D10N1S101985 2 роки тому +5

      I agree. The claw headlights look less boxy, and the interior screen looks too big and out of place. Not to mention no gear shifter… wtf!!! I like using the shifter!

    • @dvavtar78
      @dvavtar78 2 роки тому +1

      Agree! Most kissasses commenting here probably never drove a 3 series and they have nothing better to do.

  • @bradulovic82
    @bradulovic82 2 роки тому +43

    I like the new look, only negative is that rear bumper is a bit too overdesigned. I wish they kept climate controls with physical buttons, pre-facelift central console was much better, these double screens look stupid.

    • @Tomoyo0827
      @Tomoyo0827 2 роки тому +2

      I dont know why BMW would play the double screen game that was left behind by Merc....its an outdated design! WHY?

    • @turbos7780
      @turbos7780 2 роки тому

      That update is definitely not worth it

    • @1hk218
      @1hk218 2 роки тому

      @@Tomoyo0827 agreed. I have an F10 5er probably just gonna get an F10 M5 because the interior is just so good. The screen in the dash, everything looks solid and feels that way. It all looks like it belongs. All this new crap looks cheap

    • @rosequartz2290
      @rosequartz2290 2 роки тому

      @@Tomoyo0827 I disagree, the Mercs interior isn't good-looking at all, it was much better when they had the double screens.

    • @rosequartz2290
      @rosequartz2290 2 роки тому

      As for not liking touchscreens in an entire, man you're going to have a hard time enjoying cars from now on because that's what every company is doing now

  • @MiyuruWeerarathna
    @MiyuruWeerarathna 2 роки тому +5

    Team chrome frame all the way

  • @ddot196
    @ddot196 2 роки тому +30

    That interior is a step back in every facet from the 4 series they just released. No quick buttons, no physical AC controls, no gear select...oof. It's very obvious BMW is having to cut corners due to shortages or costs.

    • @DerHalbeEuro
      @DerHalbeEuro 2 роки тому +1

      That is a matter of taste but not a step back. The huge curved display is a great selling point! I likei it much better than the quite outdated 2-parted design.

    • @Brian-jv8iy
      @Brian-jv8iy 2 роки тому

      @@DerHalbeEuro it’s still a two part désign and no it’s not a matter of taste. Cheaper to do this all

    • @DerHalbeEuro
      @DerHalbeEuro 2 роки тому

      @@Brian-jv8iy Yeah the single curved screen is optional as far as i know

    • @vomErsten
      @vomErsten 2 роки тому

      @@DerHalbeEuro This is still visibly two separate screens, my friend. Placing a single piece of glass over both doesn't make it not so, it just makes the design look poorly integrated. Even Mercedes's "hyperscreen" is really just 3 normal, square LCDs under a single pane of glass. The only companies doing large-format, tailored displays are Lucid and...Cadillac.
      And the shifter isn't a matter of taste, it's a full step back in functionality because it cannot be used to shift the car and it's objectively more difficult to use as it sits flush with the console. And the lack of persistent quick buttons is another full loss of functionality.

  • @csabafazekas3619
    @csabafazekas3619 2 роки тому +11

    That dashboard screen just doesent suit the design context, too angular. BMW should take a look at the Golf 8's screen implementation, it looks a lot better.

    • @johnguidetti5839
      @johnguidetti5839 2 роки тому +2

      You mean Mercedes E class they’ve done the double screen the best.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 2 роки тому +2

      The curved screen looks awesome

    • @mf2yu197
      @mf2yu197 2 роки тому

      audi's the best. Audi screen is matured, clear and crisp

    • @andrew22334455
      @andrew22334455 2 роки тому +1

      The pre-LCI 3 series was fine. They should've kept it. The Golf 8's screen looks horrible, as it's just a mass of gloss black plastic

  • @Leo_Vasileio
    @Leo_Vasileio 2 роки тому +9

    Beautiful but the rear bumper with the extended black on it is a disaster

  • @mrhaylo1620
    @mrhaylo1620 2 роки тому

    Just ordered mine in Skyscraper Grey with M-sport plus trim, looks absolutely gorgeous. Delivery mid Nov 2022🥰

  • @murrynathan
    @murrynathan 2 роки тому +5

    They put the Hofmeister kink in the headlights. That’s pretty cool. Additionally, I assume BROOKLYN GREY is named after the cities’ weather?

    • @nessuno5403
      @nessuno5403 2 роки тому +1

      There is no logic to their name associations. Otherwise, all those track based colors imply they're weather related too? Also, the kink has been a design motif throughout the G20 inside and out (eg central air vent unit).

    • @cx5870
      @cx5870 2 роки тому +2

      @@nessuno5403 no logic in those two screens ascwell

  • @rogerjeck9281
    @rogerjeck9281 2 роки тому +1

    Nose looks proper bay em vay, check, door closing sound solid/deep thunk, check!! You bring joy to my ocd heart with the door closing sound check. Thank you Thomas

  • @georgealex19
    @georgealex19 2 роки тому +6

    To be honest, it’s an amazing looking car and brought my attention back at bmw (it shifted to Audi this past year for some unknown reason). The only thing that I feel lets me down is how the ic+mgu combo is just planted there on top (I dislike this on Audis as well). Funny since I actually worked on this edition of the mgu, but always thought they’d somehow integrate the big display… so long for that I guess.

    • @stoicapetruliviu8840
      @stoicapetruliviu8840 2 роки тому

      "Unknown reason" 😂😂😂😂 bad one!

    • @georgealex19
      @georgealex19 2 роки тому +1

      Haha, 3 weeks later, comes the verdict. Out of the bunch I wanted to go on with ordering this new 3-series. Unfortunately, despite me liking the looks of the car, the bumped up pricing scheme, lack of discount plans currently as well as the offered financial services being solely aimed at companies rather than individuals have lead me to ordering a loaded Audi A4 instead. Sorry BMW, you were just completely uncompetitive in this market :( maybe next time!

    • @stoicapetruliviu8840
      @stoicapetruliviu8840 2 роки тому

      @@georgealex19 👍 A lot o reasons😂

  • @kennyli5838
    @kennyli5838 2 роки тому +1

    How is this one having adaptive cruise control (buttons and wheel)? I thought it is only available on M340i

  • @TheLAbroker
    @TheLAbroker 2 роки тому +9

    I like some of the interior updates but as a owner of a 2021 the pre facelift m sport is much more aggressive and bmw style.

    • @mr.c3939
      @mr.c3939 2 роки тому +1

      I felt the same with the X3. I prefer my pre LCI

  • @James_H1
    @James_H1 2 роки тому

    You are the best reviewer Thomas Majchrzak!

  • @T-Lens
    @T-Lens 2 роки тому +9

    For me also chrome or satin silver surroundings. Black makes it look cheaper and more 'plastic' imo. But on the other side, it's nice to let everyone choose what they like best. But BMW can also improve on that. Now some options or wheels are only available when you choose a certain line or M package. It should be nice if they would give 100% free configuration choice.
    Not a fan of the looks of the new infotainment system either. It's nice to have a bigger screen, but this now looks like a stretched tablet with a stupid support leg behind it. And the speedometer graphics look like you're driving a DS instead of a BMW. Liked the pre-facelift gear lever also more than the button. Progression isn't always an improvement.

    • @bmw3842
      @bmw3842 2 роки тому

      I love my 2021 with the adaptive and the track and handling package .Not crazy about the bigger screen and the tiny thimble shifter . I think I am going keep my fully loaded 2021 330i ,Black Sapphire Metallic and I love the black shadow line package .But not all black wheels .I have these wheels with the M brakes.This is the reason I did not drive BMW from 2012 till now .I hated the direction it went until 2019. I like clean lines and not all that black plastic in the front and back.Less is always best .I'll wait for the complete redesign in 2026.

  • @tommy_g35
    @tommy_g35 2 роки тому +1

    So much better, and no disastrous grille

  • @bmw3-er
    @bmw3-er 2 роки тому +8

    I like the preface lift one more.

  • @peromalmstrom7668
    @peromalmstrom7668 2 роки тому +2

    interesting Review, 'Thank-you'.
    Noted, laser lights being dropped (Is this just 3 series, or across all BMW series?) and couldn't agree more with the reasons you stated BMW have decided upon.Though truth be known, possibly to do with microchips and parts!
    Do NOT like the loss of touch buttons for climate and other basic functions with I-drive 8.
    Great to see a new series range from BMW, but BMW's main issue remains..... DELIVERY OF NEW ORDERED CARS....
    - Ordered & Deposit paid on 30th April 2021
    - Car entered production and completed in Feb 2022, but missing RAM component
    - Car delivered to Bemerhaven, Germany waiting RAM fitted
    - BMW UK informed me this wknd, they will NOT give timeline of delivery. Expect delivery upto end 2022 into 2023
    - Currently 13 months wait, now expecting 18+ months
    - Car ordered is BMW X3 M40I (LCI 2022)
    - I live in UK
    Until they honour customers orders who have paid a deposit and now been waiting over 1 year, release of new models does not help feelings or views held by customers, after months of Dealership lies and misinformation from BMW UK and BMW IAG, that is noticeable after you have ordered and paid a deposit.
    If in UK, be AWARE of ordering a new BMW with the information from BMW Dealership and then BMW UK and BMW IAG, regarding delivery timelines (while price continues to increase, even though ordered and deposit paid). Especially while watching new model release after model release, press car after press car, while its soon to be ex-loyal customers, are constantly miss-informed and continue to wait (BMW IAG, BMW UK and the BMW Dealership has now given me 8 different delivery dates for collection - all passed and still no sign of a car!)
    If i hear another excuse to do with microchips, economics, war, pandemic, I will go crazy. It does not stop them producing hundreds of press cars and new model ranges while customers wait 12+ months and adding daily, weekly, monthly to this timeline, while not admitting the reality and truth. BMW priorities are ALL about profit and looking good with product range for future sales and NOTHING about the current customer or looking after the long-term customers they have (did have).
    Audi are doing far better in UK and in-process of getting a new Audi delivered next 2 weeks. Will then cancel BMW order, as I'm to the end of my patience of being lectured with excuses, priorities, misinformation along with price increases while waiting and deposit paid.
    UK BMW BUYERS - BE AWARE!

    • @edwindyap1616
      @edwindyap1616 2 роки тому

      The new 7 is still having laserlights.
      Also the Chinese spec 3 Series has an laserlight option (as seen in the leaked images)

  • @kingneptune886
    @kingneptune886 2 роки тому +3

    Hey Thomas, do you know what the future holds for the 5-Series? Will we see a V8 in the new one or will we see them do a Mercedes and give us four cylinders?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +2

      I guess it will be similar like 7-Series engine lineup: ua-cam.com/video/5XicWoou8C4/v-deo.html

  • @polichic
    @polichic 2 роки тому

    Great review, this channel improved a lot in the last year, good job!
    And love the german accent as Im italian whom lived in Germany and learned the language.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +1

      Highly appreciated! Please recommend our channel :-)

  • @riccardo5753
    @riccardo5753 2 роки тому +9

    I think the pre-facelift interior is much better. The new is a bit too much with the connected screens.

    • @focusunivega8380
      @focusunivega8380 2 роки тому

      I don't know what they are trying to accomplish with all this tech. Who is gonna buy this car, kid or grown man? Okay, there must be development and inovation but some things like climate controls inside screen is really dumb. Also gear selector like in VW grupation common.... After few years of owning Mercedes c klass in family i really dont like the look of the screens that BMW put now.Looks like cheap tablet to me

    • @p00lking
      @p00lking 2 роки тому

      @@focusunivega8380 This might be a bit pessimistic, but maybe they're moving everything to the screen to enable easier monetization the of the car post sale.

  • @andrewmontague2636
    @andrewmontague2636 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid as ever, Thomas! I like the black window surrounds best although I think it’s down to the colour you chose and whether you want the car to look sporty or more classic.
    I think the upgrades look good, especially the curved dash

  • @timmietz
    @timmietz 2 роки тому +9

    No AC buttons and no gear lever is a huge disappointment. Hopefully it will not effect the M4CSL and the M3 50th anniversary.

    • @thorek55
      @thorek55 2 роки тому

      m4 will have iDrive8 introduced in late 2023 and the lever stays in M3/M4 for now. But M3 50th will have the iDrive8 so no physical AC buttons

    • @vomErsten
      @vomErsten 2 роки тому

      The M4 CSL is still using iDrive 7. The 4-series in general isn't getting this LCI until 2024, so if you want one that still has a nicely designed interior and proper controls you better get it now.

  • @jeffl1944
    @jeffl1944 2 роки тому +1

    Best review guy on the net

  • @GiGaSzS
    @GiGaSzS 2 роки тому +29

    The infotainent and climate controls are a huge downgrade in this car. I would be saying that from functionality and hassle free operation and also the look, the 20 year old BMWs' had better experience. And why do you offer all these heads up display designs but no rev meter?! I really like the analg gauges that F30 offers and minimalistic HUD, but rev meter is the only thing I am missing from HUD. When down shifting it is annoying to look at dials, if you have the HUD. Dials are pretty and HUD is functional. This is a perfect combination of design and functionality. Comparing to 2023 design with glueing up a huge wide screen without lightshade to the dash :/
    I am also confused about the front grill. Some have the controversial grill and some the classic one with a little modification. While I appreciate they have not gone nuts with the design, the controversial grill of M3 looks nice with the chasey and headlamps. Especially if we compare it to the very ugly grill of iX and iXM. I hope that this is not the direction BMW is going to.

    • @vomErsten
      @vomErsten 2 роки тому

      There is a graphical rev counter available in the HUD options. It doesn't show numbers, but it shows you where the red-line is. This is a separate display in the HUD from the shift indicator animation that is persistent vice only showing as you approach red-line

  • @jaromor8808
    @jaromor8808 2 роки тому +1

    i am shocked it does not look horrible, it actually looks very good

  • @kevintoth5365
    @kevintoth5365 2 роки тому +5

    I like the new BMW design but that watch on your wrist looks so cool. :)

  • @QullVideo
    @QullVideo 2 роки тому +1

    Never understood why manufacturers are going with the digital instrument controls. You could argue partially for it in small city cars where space is a premium. But in family hatchbacks and executive saloons there is no plenty of space for a smartly laid out and intuitive physical controls.
    At least BMW has kept some of the physical iDrive controls by the looks of it.

  • @MarioDallaRiva
    @MarioDallaRiva 2 роки тому +4

    Looks ok, Thomas. The glossy rear back lower end no so much...
    I vote for chrome vs black around the windows. Or brushed metal...

  • @whitefang924
    @whitefang924 2 роки тому

    I love how he’s talking about the features of a car but narrates like its a golf game.There’s no need for hype since the car will definitely deliver a great experience.But i wonder if the 330i m sport comes in a diesel variant.

  • @TimeisReel
    @TimeisReel 2 роки тому +5

    The exterior is nice... BMW used to have some of the best gauges. Now it looks like a KIA dash...

  • @hankmoody7521
    @hankmoody7521 2 роки тому +1

    So Thomas choice: Tansanitblau without chrome delete, M Sportpackage and beige Sensatec! Good choice! Great looking car!

  • @Robert.L
    @Robert.L 2 роки тому +6

    Really do prefer the iDrive7, gearknob and general preface design over the facelift.
    Im a previous g20 330e owner and currently owning a i4 M50 .
    I feel like the iDrive8 is a large but messy step from iDrive7.
    The gearknob is one of the last things that gives you that classic driving feel when you put it in Drive, and it looks better also.
    The front design of the pre-face G20 was peak "BMW design" imo. It had the agressive front headlight design with the claw/notch, kind of what the preface E46 had. It also had better front and rear bumper lines in general compared to the facelift.
    The facelift looks like it was designed by a computer, while the preface looks to be designed by hand by a artist.
    Preface is designed to flow with the wind. The new front looks more like a aerodynamic box lol.

    • @MustafaTULU32
      @MustafaTULU32 2 роки тому +1

      I totally agree on "The front design of the pre-face G20 was peak "BMW design" "

  • @TRONICSfer
    @TRONICSfer 2 роки тому +2

    Great review as always, Thomas. I like the outside updates, but the screen inside and loosing the gear shift... Really ruins it for me...

  • @koji.m4014
    @koji.m4014 2 роки тому +3

    When will the driving review be out?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +2

      Soon hopefully 😊

    • @koji.m4014
      @koji.m4014 2 роки тому +1

      @@autogefuehl Thanks, will be tuning in as always!

  • @metalmarcus
    @metalmarcus 2 роки тому

    The best detail as always. Thanks.

  • @washingtonveer9637
    @washingtonveer9637 2 роки тому +18

    People prefer premium brands for various prominent features. Design is one of them. Seems like bmw is dismissing it.
    This is a huge step backward sadly.

    • @gabrielmuller943
      @gabrielmuller943 2 роки тому

      I disagree with you. BMW has never been in this awful design position. I would say that this is a huge, awful step sideways. Just look at the new 7 series. It looks like a Hyundai. Ridiculous.

  • @hammythegoat9319
    @hammythegoat9319 2 роки тому

    I love the color. Where you van you find this color model. What type of grey is it

  • @dseely721
    @dseely721 2 роки тому +3

    00:06:30 Great track! Do you like Audien?

  • @johnmurdock3591
    @johnmurdock3591 2 роки тому +1

    I have the g20 330e and I usually like anything new. Is it only me who dislikes the one screen? I think I prefer the separate ones like I have now.

  • @usmanladan1515
    @usmanladan1515 2 роки тому +3

    Stunning design update overall, but I would have liked BMW to tweak the rear looks a little bit better.

  • @MFFM
    @MFFM 2 роки тому +1

    thank you for the video, many years many excellent video like always

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому

      thanks for following, great you re with us !

  • @madpistol
    @madpistol 2 роки тому +5

    iDrive 8 will definitely have a bit of a learning curve on it, especially compared to iDrive 7, but I like what I see so far. As for the rest of the car, it looks great, IMO. Can't wait to see what they do with the M3 facelift.

  • @aor3200
    @aor3200 2 роки тому

    Here is 2021 330E X-drive owner writing. Seems to be, very much comments in all "forums" that LCI is not what people want.
    I agree, old shifter was perfect and i also like to have physical buttons for example a/c adjustment + seat heaters.
    At least today i dont feel i want to order LCI model..

  • @AmilcarP
    @AmilcarP 2 роки тому +7

    The exterior is so beautiful. I am impressed with the 3 series. However, I have to agree with everyone else that screen is ugly. No shape at all. Plus the nice thing BMW had was the climate control it looked classy. Now it is just plain with a big rectangular screen at least the end should have been more shape like the previous generation. It looks more like an i4 than a BMW 3 series in the interior.

  • @serkancelik3677
    @serkancelik3677 2 роки тому

    Really like this new front bumper! Especially that the sides of the bumper are now closed, and the big opening in the middle. Looks really good.

  • @kalivar01
    @kalivar01 2 роки тому +7

    Literally just took ownership of my new 3 series with system 7, I don't like these ridiculous computer screens and lack of buttons for aircon. I don't want to be jabbing a screen all the time with system 8. Seems all the car manufacturers are going that way though ppft

    • @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
      @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 2 роки тому +2

      They don't care if their customers crash due to the distracted driving they built into the car.

  • @Karonball
    @Karonball 2 роки тому

    I am BMW owner for 13 years now and i love it ( E90 330i -> G20 330i )
    On 18th of May i decided to buy M240i
    2 days ago my dealer said that i can only spec M240i with new interior like in G20 LCI.
    I am sorry BMW....Porsche will be probably my next choice.

  • @vume7722
    @vume7722 2 роки тому +2

    I love the new 3 Series great design , well sized kidney grill.

  • @johnlm340
    @johnlm340 2 роки тому +1

    Been patiently waiting for the G20 LCI and I am not disappointed! Looks sharper overall and I do like the geeky instrument panel even if its integration seems a little like an afterthought. Not too sure about the extended black stripes on the rear bumper nor the removal of most physical keys including the gear lever...

  • @mydimeisup5103
    @mydimeisup5103 2 роки тому +34

    I was like wow, they didn't screw anything up design-wise and actually made the headlights look even better than pre-LCI... then I saw the interior with the iDrive and gauge cluster. Just two iPads glued together and tacked onto the dash without physical climate control. The interior looks way too plain and simple for 40k. I'd expect more physical control with knobs/buttons with the car. Pure laziness and not what I want when starting base price is $40k USD. I mean I'm really happy they didn't do anything with the grille or bumper, so it could be worse. BMW recently seems to always have this mantra of two steps forward one step backward. "Hey we made the headlights look cooler, didn't increase the grille size, and improved engine performance but we removed all physical controls"
    Audi has stayed true and actually built the dash around the virtual cockpit digital gauge cluster and has always been the leader in lighting technology. They're the only German brand still building the dashboard around the digital screens and not just tacking the screens on the dash. They may be removing physical climate controls in their higher-end models which I'm not happy about, but it's not like I'm spending $55k USD to have no physical buttons and a screen glued onto my dash. Love my 4 rings.

    • @Leester-70
      @Leester-70 2 роки тому +2

      Have to agree with you. The big screen looks positively awful.

    • @chunkymonkeymatt
      @chunkymonkeymatt 2 роки тому +1

      I'm not a big fan with this screen design but from what I understand the design is to make it look like a projector is coming in the dash like in those sci-fi movies and that since it is a touch screen it makes look more futuristic

    • @Tomoyo0827
      @Tomoyo0827 2 роки тому +2

      Ummm...I sold my S7 because the its all screen with no dial and it was hard to use.
      But I have to agree about the double screen.....all aside, its just outdated, Merc played this game 7 years ago, and has moved on, WHY BMW feel that's the way to go in 2023???
      Just WHYY??

    • @omidnamin9004
      @omidnamin9004 2 роки тому +5

      this whole ipad screen trend is a very cost effective way for manufacturers to sell you something "new" meanwhile they're laughing at you because they can get away with sticking cheap tablets inside luxury cars and sell it to you for a premium

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 2 роки тому +4

      You guys will always find something to complain.
      Typical moaning in every BMW video or article.

  • @CookiesUnleashed
    @CookiesUnleashed 2 роки тому +1

    I just bought a new 3 series and was already a little ticked about BMW switching from dials to toggle buttons for climate controls. Now there are no climate controls at all… great now you have to dig through a menu to raise the temp🤧

  • @trazvan1977
    @trazvan1977 2 роки тому +7

    Ok, so they managed not to f* this one up on exterior, but why they removed the gear knob and fitted that Mercedes square idrive? It takes all the sportiness from the interior....!

  • @richardjohnson5529
    @richardjohnson5529 2 роки тому +1

    Thomas what happened to showing the base models?

  • @namechecksout6300
    @namechecksout6300 2 роки тому +4

    Relatively restrained.
    Good job, BMW.

  • @Austria4e
    @Austria4e 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful watch, Thomas!

  • @roconnor01
    @roconnor01 2 роки тому +5

    I prefer analogue dash and manual gearbox.

  • @kimjrgensen-lund4334
    @kimjrgensen-lund4334 2 роки тому

    First, again a super introduction! Secondly, When will you be able to do a more thorough review and the test drive? Greetings from DK!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 роки тому +1

      Mange tak! In a couple of weeks!

  • @VietnamG
    @VietnamG 2 роки тому +7

    A facelift already?