I was a Gibson guy in my 20s now I really dig telecasters , I still like the Gibson humbucker sound so a tele with orignal Gibson humbuckers is a win for me.
Over youtube the clean sounds were very similar, while the differences became more apparent when overdrive was kicked in. The Les Paul's bridge pickup was preferable, but the neck and middle positions could go either way. Great comparison!
The LP is a ridiculous instrument, this one is a lifer for sure. The troublemaker absolutely did a great job keeping up with it but maintained more of the baseline fender tones
Excellent vid. I prefer the Troublemaker because... I own one :) Seriously though, the comparison went as I thought it would. The Troublemaker has more chime and snap, the Les Paul is a bit gruntier.
It wasn't a shock to me either, but the tele is infinitely more comfortable to play and a bit lighter so I could see this being a great option for others that may not want to have an anchor of an instrument for these kinds of tones
very cool video and comparison. the les paul’s pickups sound a bit hotter to me, which makes it punchier and louder in the low gain examples. this works to the tele’s advantage in the modern gain bridge example, helping it sound less compressed and more cutting.
The tele in this example kind of played a similar role of a PRS to an extent with the higher gain, absolutely cut better than the Gibson does. In a mix this is actually really important, balance is key to an overall track and there's a reason teles of all varieties are probably the most recorded guitars of all time. You take that gain off though and just have crunch... the Les Paul is tough to beat indeed. Thanks for watching!
As someone whom owned a Tele Deluxe squier version in the past & a lp .... at the end of the day ... if you where to build both bodies the same way, give both the same pickups .... they would more likely be pretty close.
I tried one of the Indonesian set neck teles that had duncans, that was the closest to a modern LP sound I've ever heard from a tele. This one definitely hits more of the vintage vibe.
Maybe that's where I heard it when I was just playing and it came out, completely unintentional but it may well have been. My daughter and I love that movie haha
I perefered the les paul. It seemed to have a slightly deeper tone. Although the troublemaker did have a few sounds that were really good. I liked this heads up.
I think the LP cuts through better too and has a little more depth to it, i was just very impressed the troublemaker got as close as it did, especially considering it has stock Japanese pickups
Which imho makes the tele a bit more appealing to some, way lighter, easier fret access, comfortable body. I still prefer the LP tone but this specific telecaster doesnt leave much to be desired.
Both guitars have fantastic characteristics and would have application in certain scenarios/mixes etc but for me overall the les paul tone and that slightly warmer, crispier reaction inspired me more. But both are fantastic and I actually wondered if they’d blend well in a recording scenario to make a massive sound, especially if you were recording that gainy rock sound. But obviously feel etc is all personal preference and I think what’s clear here is both are great, preference is a thing, but you can use both guitars to do a lot of things with the right amp and knowhow 😄 really enjoyable video and comparison I have to say!
I think the best blend honestly is a traditional single coil tele with a LP like this. These two would overlap a bit sonically and I don't think I'd use them together honestly. Tomorrows podcast with Dave we actually go a bit into the recording and guitar choices we make for tracking so I think you'll enjoy it!
@@AudiomoMusic oh yeah absolutely - the classic single coil tele plus almost any humbucker equip guitar blend is amazing for sure! Definitely looking forward to that tomorrow that’s for sure !
WOW..i have been on the fence about paying the Gibson price and risking the poor quality control. Looks like problem solved. Fender it is. MAYBE...such a tough decision. Gotta get my hands on both.
The thing is this isn't the same as a regular HH tele you can buy off the rack, this is an all mahogony body and neck which absolutely contributes to it getting as close as it does to a LP. A regular tele deluxe from alder and the wide range pickups won't get nearly as close imho
There's hardly much of a difference in tones, I'd still choose the troublemaker, because it won't get a headstock break, and you can replace the neck once the original is fucked
It has to be the Gibson for me, the neck pickups were very close but once you got nearer the bridge the Gibson had a fuller tone. But then again i am biased, i am just not a fan of Telecasters.🤨
I love telecasters they are probably in my top 3 guitar designs ever made, but for this tone I still prefer the Les Paul. Just nice to have viable options for others who may not want a Gibson
@@AudiomoMusic For certain types of music, the sound of a les paul makes a big difference, other models can get close, but you can tell most of the time. Re Telecasters are just not for me, i have tried both Fender and other brands with different pickups and better body contours, but still havn't found one that says buy me.
@@AudiomoMusic I’ve got an uptown strat, the scale length makes a big difference. The shorter scale has less of that fender chimey snap when you hit the strings. It doesn’t sound like a Les Paul like I had hoped but it’s a lifer guitar.
Well... I'm glad they did it this way. I was looking for a Les Paulish guitar with 25.5" scale and this Troublemaker has ended that quest. Bought it a year ago and quite happy with. Maybe someday I will replace pickups but not sure about that.
I was a Gibson guy in my 20s now I really dig telecasters , I still like the Gibson humbucker sound so a tele with orignal Gibson humbuckers is a win for me.
Over youtube the clean sounds were very similar, while the differences became more apparent when overdrive was kicked in. The Les Paul's bridge pickup was preferable, but the neck and middle positions could go either way. Great comparison!
Thanks man, for playing comfort it would be the tele, for literally everything else it's the Les Paul for me
Definitely agree with the ending thought, they sounded more different clean with their preconceived sounds more pronounced
Both are great. The troublemaker definitely has its own vibe.
Yeah it's a really cool guitar that can pull off a bunch. I think if it had Fralin unbuckers it would be one of the most versatile guitars out there.
@@AudiomoMusic That would be an interesting combo.
@@AudiomoMusic i have the parallel universe II version which has coil splitting and it is indeed incredibly versatile.
They both sounded great..but I agree the troublemaker had more chime to it...and to me that lp sounded sooo good
The LP is a ridiculous instrument, this one is a lifer for sure. The troublemaker absolutely did a great job keeping up with it but maintained more of the baseline fender tones
Excellent vid.
I prefer the Troublemaker because... I own one :)
Seriously though, the comparison went as I thought it would. The Troublemaker has more chime and snap, the Les Paul is a bit gruntier.
It wasn't a shock to me either, but the tele is infinitely more comfortable to play and a bit lighter so I could see this being a great option for others that may not want to have an anchor of an instrument for these kinds of tones
It’s a really close call but the Telecaster just edged for me. Both sounded great though. Thanks for posting!
It's barely even a telecaster at this point yet still sounds like one a bit when clean minus the bridge pickup, very versatile instrument indeed
@@AudiomoMusic Ok, the Telecaster shaped, slightly similar sounding imposter, edges it for me.
very cool video and comparison. the les paul’s pickups sound a bit hotter to me, which makes it punchier and louder in the low gain examples. this works to the tele’s advantage in the modern gain bridge example, helping it sound less compressed and more cutting.
The tele in this example kind of played a similar role of a PRS to an extent with the higher gain, absolutely cut better than the Gibson does. In a mix this is actually really important, balance is key to an overall track and there's a reason teles of all varieties are probably the most recorded guitars of all time. You take that gain off though and just have crunch... the Les Paul is tough to beat indeed. Thanks for watching!
As someone whom owned a Tele Deluxe squier version in the past & a lp .... at the end of the day ... if you where to build both bodies the same way, give both the same pickups .... they would more likely be pretty close.
I tried one of the Indonesian set neck teles that had duncans, that was the closest to a modern LP sound I've ever heard from a tele. This one definitely hits more of the vintage vibe.
The Tele type guitar stood up really well although a Tele with old school les paul type humbuckers just never looks right to my eye 🤷🏻♂️
It definitely looks off, but in this case I like it way better than the traditional tele deluxe where the pickguard covers 90% of the body 🤣
Thanks for uploading the video, it helped me compare the two guitars
You are welcome, I'm glad it was useful for you
Is the chord progression from the clean demo of the song Dos orenguitas from Encanto?
Maybe that's where I heard it when I was just playing and it came out, completely unintentional but it may well have been. My daughter and I love that movie haha
@@AudiomoMusic I only noticed because I have been listening to those songs more often than id like to admit :P
I perefered the les paul. It seemed to have a slightly deeper tone. Although the troublemaker did have a few sounds that were really good. I liked this heads up.
I think the LP cuts through better too and has a little more depth to it, i was just very impressed the troublemaker got as close as it did, especially considering it has stock Japanese pickups
The tones may be similar but the feel is complete night and day.
Which imho makes the tele a bit more appealing to some, way lighter, easier fret access, comfortable body. I still prefer the LP tone but this specific telecaster doesnt leave much to be desired.
Both guitars have fantastic characteristics and would have application in certain scenarios/mixes etc but for me overall the les paul tone and that slightly warmer, crispier reaction inspired me more. But both are fantastic and I actually wondered if they’d blend well in a recording scenario to make a massive sound, especially if you were recording that gainy rock sound. But obviously feel etc is all personal preference and I think what’s clear here is both are great, preference is a thing, but you can use both guitars to do a lot of things with the right amp and knowhow 😄 really enjoyable video and comparison I have to say!
I think the best blend honestly is a traditional single coil tele with a LP like this. These two would overlap a bit sonically and I don't think I'd use them together honestly. Tomorrows podcast with Dave we actually go a bit into the recording and guitar choices we make for tracking so I think you'll enjoy it!
@@AudiomoMusic oh yeah absolutely - the classic single coil tele plus almost any humbucker equip guitar blend is amazing for sure! Definitely looking forward to that tomorrow that’s for sure !
What happened to the Bigsby?
I didnt think the comparison would have been fair with it on if, and the install/uninstall didnt even require a string change 👍🏽
My opinion, for what it's worth, on cleans the Tele, on gain the les Paul
I think this is a valid take even as a general opinion for a regular tele too, I know many people who feel the same way
WOW..i have been on the fence about paying the Gibson price and risking the poor quality control. Looks like problem solved. Fender it is. MAYBE...such a tough decision. Gotta get my hands on both.
The thing is this isn't the same as a regular HH tele you can buy off the rack, this is an all mahogony body and neck which absolutely contributes to it getting as close as it does to a LP. A regular tele deluxe from alder and the wide range pickups won't get nearly as close imho
There's hardly much of a difference in tones, I'd still choose the troublemaker, because it won't get a headstock break, and you can replace the neck once the original is fucked
You can also get a warmoth gibson scale length neck for kicks
It has to be the Gibson for me, the neck pickups were very close
but once you got nearer the bridge the Gibson had a fuller tone.
But then again i am biased, i am just not a fan of Telecasters.🤨
I love telecasters they are probably in my top 3 guitar designs ever made, but for this tone I still prefer the Les Paul. Just nice to have viable options for others who may not want a Gibson
@@AudiomoMusic For certain types of music, the sound of a les paul
makes a big difference, other models can get close, but you can tell most of the time.
Re Telecasters are just not for me, i have tried both Fender and other brands with different pickups and better body contours, but still havn't
found one that says buy me.
LP sounds brighter but I prefer the Tele sound.
Not sure why Fender didn’t go with the Gibson scale length on this one. I’ll bet if you swapped out the pots with 250k you’d get pretty damn close.
I actually completely agree. They've done it for other models why they didn't for this one is beyond me.
@@AudiomoMusic I’ve got an uptown strat, the scale length makes a big difference. The shorter scale has less of that fender chimey snap when you hit the strings. It doesn’t sound like a Les Paul like I had hoped but it’s a lifer guitar.
Well... I'm glad they did it this way. I was looking for a Les Paulish guitar with 25.5" scale and this Troublemaker has ended that quest. Bought it a year ago and quite happy with. Maybe someday I will replace pickups but not sure about that.
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