I am a big advocate of shooting more weight, but you need to train for it. So many health benefits. Also 80lb bows today draw so much easier than 70 lb bows a few years ago! Lets go!!
Absolutely I just started training a week ago kind of what inspired the 80lb mods to push myself. Actually watched your video on the Mtn Ops stuff as I have used it before but found your video to help me get “back on the horse”
@@FaithHunters-vf9rp Nice. I'm a big fan of bodyweight exercises too like Dips and pull ups too, they are amazing whole upper body and back exercises. If you ever have minor injuries, hanging from a pull up bar is a great way to keep the shoulder mobile and heal quicker!
That's awesome. I'll never understand why people make the negative comments. If it didn't matter everyone would be shooting 55 lbs. I'd shoot 100 lb if I had the ass to do it with correct form 😅 Edit: Setting one pin at 30 and only having to allow for a few inches at 20 and 40 respectively is a huge deal.
Thank you for this video. I’m picking up my Lift soon and now I realize two things. I can get my setup done with the 70lb current setup to get started and then I can order and replace to 80lb myself.
I just found your channel and subscribed. I'm 63 and can still easily shoot 80lb bows. I have lifted weights most of my life. The best advice I can give (if you want it) is, work your rotator cuffs and rear delts three times a week using a light/medium/heavy training split. I guarantee after a few weeks you will be giggling at how easily you will draw that bow and how steady you will also be at full draw.
I really appreciate it i'll take any advice I can get 😆 I am 45 and have zero history with actual strength training. It is definitely on my horizon. I actually bought some resistance bands and this week started doing some shoulder exercises. I follow elkshape, and they had a physical trainer showing some exercises. Making some big life changes and this is just the start.
I owned a lot of 80lb bows. Even own 94lb King Cobra. I will say tired muscles and cold weather, lots of arrows, it ican be hard to pull 80lbs. Also a super speed bow at 70 pound bow can be harder to pull than a smooth 80 pound bow.
Yeah I totally threw form out the window in anticipation, but my videos are real so I try not to edit out my mistakes. I have really been focusing on o my form is the sad part
You get 10lb of draw weight force on your arrow for every inch of draw length. It’s way easier to find ways to increase your draw length by an inch than drawing a shoulder mashing 80lb bow. Draw length is the powerstroke .. change your form a bit or use a different release if you want to add an inch of draw length and poof, you get 10lb more
You might be close to 300fps but the advantage of 80lbs is minimal at best. But it does depend on what you are hunting if its whitetail or most north american game does not make a lot of sense. If pushing a big expandable and that arrow it won't hurt but make sure you can draw that in the cold also not just in the house, and in 50 degrees great video!
Higher KE, flatter arrow trajectory, tighter pin gaps and the assurance that you can push any tips of broadhead and get a quick, ethical kill makes a lot of sense. Don’t be mad because you don’t want to push yourself to get in better shape and confidently draw back an 80lb bow. Leave the hard stuff to us 😉
exactly. and pulling back a bow after sitting in a tree stand for three hours in 20 degrees is completely different than standing at room temperature... still, an interesting video... thanks @@brentbandy3566
Man I see people say stuff like this all the time, but the reality is that it's not difficult to get in shape enough to draw it and the flatter trajectory, the better. There are only upsides unless you're struggling to do it.
I’m 45 and 270 😂. I was surprised how manageable it was. My first went bad because I was anxious. I’ve been shooting it some more and am getting comfortable.
Dont get caught up into the heavy draw weight lol i have shot clean through a black bear 255lb buck and a hog with a 50lb bear super mag 598 grain arrow going around 160fps
I shoot what I group best(most accurate) with , same with my rifle reloading. Won't say if I shoot 50# or 80# , you shoot 50 same say man up , shoot 80 and you are trying to prove something. It's about comfort an fit and feel. You may be able to pull one 70# bow way easier than a 55# bow of a different set up depending on your body and form. Let the target tell ya what to shoot youtubers not the specs 😉
Definitely keep the modes and if you can get 60 get them also if you ever get an bad back or shoulder you will want a lower pound I fuked my back as a welder/millwright and after about three shots I'm done but with 60 it gets me a few more shots before taking a break. 👍🏼🤠 I used to shoot target compound then went to a self made long bow then back to a hunting PSE embark and with the QAD rest it's so deadly got to get more arrow and some more targets to shoot at so I don't lose so many arrows.
I will probably switch back to the 70 for a few months I am in the middle of making a bunch of life changes and working out is one of them. On these new bows though 80lb isn’t as bad as it used to be to be. Especially with 85% let off. I also went to a bigger target due to losing arrows 😂
I have 4 impacted vertebrae between my shoulder and I’m able to shoot 80 pounds with the lift I can’t shoot all day but all I have to do is back off the limb bolts two turns and I’m close to 70 and I have the garmin xero a1 pro with a click of a button I can shoot 70
You're damn right brother! When these soyboy Karens chime in hating on the 80lb bows, I picture the same little girly men I see at my gym doing a bunch of useless exercises, while avoiding the hard ones, yet still wondering why they have arms like a girl and a pot belly atter training for a year lol.
@@randallflores-qr8cs everyone is a critic these days. 🤷🏻♂️ but I will agree that todays 80lbs feels more like older bows 70. To each their own but, the only issue with most 80lb guys are they aren’t humble about it..some are some definitely are not.
Yep he is.hes drawing with his shoulder and not his back muscles. With the way bows are these days and the efficiency they have there is no need for 80 lbs.one day hell draw back and his rotator cuff will pop.
Yup even said in the video I was so anxious about that I completely threw my form out the window. This was just a test. I am in the middle of a lot of life changes and working out is one of them. I have even been doing bow specific exercises. It’s all about getting better.
@@georgehardin8452You're obviously not a hog hunter . No exit usually means no blood trail, lost animal. "no need " is a pretty ignorant blanket statement to make when you don't know the needs of other hunters. 80lb bows are a big help to archers who have shorter draw lengths and love to hunt hogs year round like me.
More kinetic energy is NEVER a bad thing. Sure you can kill with a 50lb bow but I want every advantage I can get to make a clean, ethical kill.@@georgehardin8452
I will be chronographing it soon. I saw a bow at 296 with 28 1/2 draw but it was a 450 arrow (not sure if that was exact). Mine are 459 but call them 460. I am actually a 29 1/2 draw which I think definitely put me over 300 but with the UV buttons long throat I am shooting 29
I am a big advocate of shooting more weight, but you need to train for it. So many health benefits. Also 80lb bows today draw so much easier than 70 lb bows a few years ago! Lets go!!
Absolutely I just started training a week ago kind of what inspired the 80lb mods to push myself. Actually watched your video on the Mtn Ops stuff as I have used it before but found your video to help me get “back on the horse”
@@FaithHunters-vf9rp awesome, thanks man! Good luck! You won't regret it!
@@FaithHunters-vf9rp Dan from elk shape just released some great vids on shoulder conditioning.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors yes sir i just started my resistance band training this week thanka to those videos
@@FaithHunters-vf9rp Nice. I'm a big fan of bodyweight exercises too like Dips and pull ups too, they are amazing whole upper body and back exercises. If you ever have minor injuries, hanging from a pull up bar is a great way to keep the shoulder mobile and heal quicker!
That's awesome. I'll never understand why people make the negative comments. If it didn't matter everyone would be shooting 55 lbs. I'd shoot 100 lb if I had the ass to do it with correct form 😅
Edit: Setting one pin at 30 and only having to allow for a few inches at 20 and 40 respectively is a huge deal.
Some people get and some jave their ways 😆
Thank you for this video. I’m picking up my Lift soon and now I realize two things. I can get my setup done with the 70lb current setup to get started and then I can order and replace to 80lb myself.
Yes very easy
I just found your channel and subscribed. I'm 63 and can still easily shoot 80lb bows. I have lifted weights most of my life. The best advice I can give (if you want it) is, work your rotator cuffs and rear delts three times a week using a light/medium/heavy training split. I guarantee after a few weeks you will be giggling at how easily you will draw that bow and how steady you will also be at full draw.
I really appreciate it i'll take any advice I can get 😆 I am 45 and have zero history with actual strength training. It is definitely on my horizon. I actually bought some resistance bands and this week started doing some shoulder exercises. I follow elkshape, and they had a physical trainer showing some exercises. Making some big life changes and this is just the start.
Great video!! I liked the humor and education. I saved it. 🙏🙏🤘🤘
Awsome ty I ordered them right now 🤘🏼💯🇺🇸
I owned a lot of 80lb bows. Even own 94lb King Cobra. I will say tired muscles and cold weather, lots of arrows, it ican be hard to pull 80lbs. Also a super speed bow at 70 pound bow can be harder to pull than a smooth 80 pound bow.
Yeah it is amazing on how 80lbs or 70lbs can feel different based on the bow
You probably need a stiffer spine arrow if you go to 80#. That means that you'll have the expense of maintaining two sets of arrows.
Talk to Mathews to sponsor you. You've just sold them a lot of 80 pound mods
😂 that would be nice
raise your elbow mate!
Yeah I totally threw form out the window in anticipation, but my videos are real so I try not to edit out my mistakes. I have really been focusing on o my form is the sad part
I also switched from Hoyt to Mathews with the new LIFT. I got a 33 and I love it. I plan on 80lb mods once Mathews makes them available.
Check with Spokane Valley Archery. I got mine off eBay but think he has them in stock
They are not up on their site yet, I may have to call.@@FaithHunters-vf9rp
I got one as well, Theere so quiet and the best bow I have ever owned, also my first bow I ever owned😂
You get 10lb of draw weight force on your arrow for every inch of draw length. It’s way easier to find ways to increase your draw length by an inch than drawing a shoulder mashing 80lb bow. Draw length is the powerstroke .. change your form a bit or use a different release if you want to add an inch of draw length and poof, you get 10lb more
Absolutely. Draw length definitely can gain fps easier onnthe body. Just make sure you can get a good anchor and form.
Great vid! Thanks for sharing...
I appreciate it
You might be close to 300fps but the advantage of 80lbs is minimal at best. But it does depend on what you are hunting if its whitetail or most north american game does not make a lot of sense. If pushing a big expandable and that arrow it won't hurt but make sure you can draw that in the cold also not just in the house, and in 50 degrees great video!
Thanks man. Yes while I do bow hunt in Texas an 80lb is way over kill. I have a mule deer hunt and 2 mountain elk hunts next year
Higher KE, flatter arrow trajectory, tighter pin gaps and the assurance that you can push any tips of broadhead and get a quick, ethical kill makes a lot of sense. Don’t be mad because you don’t want to push yourself to get in better shape and confidently draw back an 80lb bow. Leave the hard stuff to us 😉
exactly. and pulling back a bow after sitting in a tree stand for three hours in 20 degrees is completely different than standing at room temperature... still, an interesting video... thanks
@@brentbandy3566
Man I see people say stuff like this all the time, but the reality is that it's not difficult to get in shape enough to draw it and the flatter trajectory, the better. There are only upsides unless you're struggling to do it.
who's mad?
@@brentbandy3566
I was 17 years old, 135LBS and could draw a 80LB Bowtech Tribute at the shop I worked at... had to focus a bit but could manage.
I’m 45 and 270 😂. I was surprised how manageable it was. My first went bad because I was anxious. I’ve been shooting it some more and am getting comfortable.
Dont get caught up into the heavy draw weight lol i have shot clean through a black bear 255lb buck and a hog with a 50lb bear super mag 598 grain arrow going around 160fps
Did you find it difficult with arrow drop?
I shoot what I group best(most accurate) with , same with my rifle reloading.
Won't say if I shoot 50# or 80# , you shoot 50 same say man up , shoot 80 and you are trying to prove something.
It's about comfort an fit and feel. You may be able to pull one 70# bow way easier than a 55# bow of a different set up depending on your body and form.
Let the target tell ya what to shoot youtubers not the specs 😉
Im scared to put 80lb mods on my lift with the limb issues
No doubt
Definitely keep the modes and if you can get 60 get them also if you ever get an bad back or shoulder you will want a lower pound I fuked my back as a welder/millwright and after about three shots I'm done but with 60 it gets me a few more shots before taking a break. 👍🏼🤠
I used to shoot target compound then went to a self made long bow then back to a hunting PSE embark and with the QAD rest it's so deadly got to get more arrow and some more targets to shoot at so I don't lose so many arrows.
I will probably switch back to the 70 for a few months I am in the middle of making a bunch of life changes and working out is one of them. On these new bows though 80lb isn’t as bad as it used to be to be. Especially with 85% let off.
I also went to a bigger target due to losing arrows 😂
I have 4 impacted vertebrae between my shoulder and I’m able to shoot 80 pounds with the lift I can’t shoot all day but all I have to do is back off the limb bolts two turns and I’m close to 70 and I have the garmin xero a1 pro with a click of a button I can shoot 70
Fuck the haters do you! What’s the speed now?
I have my chronograph I will be doing a speed test soon. I’ll post a short video when I do it
You're damn right brother! When these soyboy Karens chime in hating on the 80lb bows, I picture the same little girly men I see at my gym doing a bunch of useless exercises, while avoiding the hard ones, yet still wondering why they have arms like a girl and a pot belly atter training for a year lol.
@@randallflores-qr8cs everyone is a critic these days. 🤷🏻♂️ but I will agree that todays 80lbs feels more like older bows 70. To each their own but, the only issue with most 80lb guys are they aren’t humble about it..some are some definitely are not.
You're gonna blow your shoulders out.....
Yep he is.hes drawing with his shoulder and not his back muscles. With the way bows are these days and the efficiency they have there is no need for 80 lbs.one day hell draw back and his rotator cuff will pop.
Yup even said in the video I was so anxious about that I completely threw my form out the window. This was just a test. I am in the middle of a lot of life changes and working out is one of them. I have even been doing bow specific exercises. It’s all about getting better.
@@georgehardin8452You're obviously not a hog hunter . No exit usually means no blood trail, lost animal. "no need " is a pretty ignorant blanket statement to make when you don't know the needs of other hunters. 80lb bows are a big help to archers who have shorter draw lengths and love to hunt hogs year round like me.
More kinetic energy is NEVER a bad thing. Sure you can kill with a 50lb bow but I want every advantage I can get to make a clean, ethical kill.@@georgehardin8452
Where can you find a set of 80 pound mods? can’t find them anywhere!
Mine were on eBay. I also heard podium archer had some
i draw 120lb recurve with my thumb. i wonder if anyone makes 80+lb for a compound.
I know Hoyt offers 80 lb limbs. I tthink they have a dangerous game bow that goes up to 90 lb.
Continue to work on your form when you draw that bow and it’ll be even easier 🙌🏼
Absolutely. I have been working on it a lot. Unfortunately, as my videos are real, i got so anxious i threw it out the window. Appreciate the support
Nothing special about 80lbs these new newer bows draw so easy matthews original monster and pse omen-omen max with 80lb limbs are another animal
I bet I remember the monster. It is definitely more common now that bows have come so far
You will be at 296 feet per second
I will be chronographing it soon. I saw a bow at 296 with 28 1/2 draw but it was a 450 arrow (not sure if that was exact). Mine are 459 but call them 460. I am actually a 29 1/2 draw which I think definitely put me over 300 but with the UV buttons long throat I am shooting 29
You need to work on your form.
Absolutely