The one about the shadows hurts a lot. The whole science behind it is why greeks proved the earth is round decades ago. They teach you that the moment you get to greek history in class and Shane couldn't be bothered to listen to it. Edit: it's centuries not decades. I'm an idiot and i apologize
It makes it so much worse to me because this man has directed a full length movie man….so he just wasn’t even kind of paying attention when his own set was being lit?!?!?! Having multiple shadows is a VERY COMMON PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLE LIGHTS!!!
as an art student I was so genuinely enraged by how he thinks shadows work that I had to pause the video for a second. you can see his shadows in the background disprove his point AS he's trying to explain it.
To get shadows like that on a studio stage you would need hundreds of thousands of little lasers stacked on top of each other. In 1969 those lasers would be hella expensive and very large, it would cost them less to send them to the moon then get all those lasers.
I love the moon landing theory because the lasers required to simulate the sunlight perfectly were further away in tech than space travel it also would’ve cost more than their budget. The flag was crinkled and when you move something in space it’ll keep moving. The bubbles off the space craft are ice crystals believe it or not ice forms when you travel through essentially a giant deep freezer for almost a week.
@Caleb OKAY yeah we only stopped going when the funding for nasa started to wane. But we still send those lasers regularly to Measure their travel speed and see what’s happening with the moons orbit.
I saw a quote to day that seems really relevant. The quote was something like “its easy to come up with conspiracy theories when you dont understand anything” might have gotten the pharsing wrong but the message is accurate.
In high school I took this super cool class where we talked about cults and REAL conspiracies that happened (mk ultra, watergate, etc ) and this one girl was like “when are we going to talk about cool conspiracy theories?” And started talking about Shane Dawson and all his videos. My teacher looked so tired lol. He kept trying to explain to her why they were wrong and like we watch some videos and spent some days just debunking his theories but she would just play on her on her phone then she dropped the class.
@@MutatedPercent A 15-year-old is still a child. I was dumb around that age, and I'm positive everyone else was. I was dumb until I was like 20 tbh. Your brain is still developing, and a lack of experience can make you like this.
I hate that when he was first getting canceled people were like “I miss his conspiracy videos!1!” Or “his conspiracy videos were the only good things he made!!” Like uh no. They were all shit too. They were all just absolutely mind numbingly stupid and was just him spreading just completely illogical anti scientific (and a lot of times stem from anti Semitic beliefs) “conspiracy” theories to his young impressionable audience and made them believe it.
YES nobody talks about how antisemitic some conspiracy theories are. people would be flabbergasted to find out they believe in the same theories the nazis did, their theories revolving around antarctica for example
@@pinkamenaxoxo exactly! I have tried to make comments on some videos, but nobody else except Pinely has seen these problems, and there are always hundreds of these "I hate what he did with blackface but I loved his conspiracies" comments. Btw I even sent d'Angelo Wallace a pm on Instagram already a while ago when Vice made a documentary on the antisemitic conspiracies, and he has been criticizing Shane. Not that people would need to even respond or read their messages, I bet he gets thousands. It just baffles me that no other commentary youtuber sees a problem.
Honestly, at the point that Shane made about shadows going in all different directions, I just immediately started questioning his mental health. Like, I’ve noticed that on Earth since I was 4? How could a grown (probably healthy) adult be this stupid?
It’s so funny that people swear it’s secret footage. No, it was public knowledge that NASA had some footage filmed, as they wanted to have some footage to talk over in case the live feed screwed up. They were covering their bets in a time when technology was new and they wanted/supplementary backup visuals. It’s not like they filmed a whole movie, and it was never a secret.
Moonlanding theories always remind me of people who attribute things humans have done (Stonehenge, the Pyramids, etc.) to aliens. Like humans can't do builds of architectural wonder (for their time periods, at least) on their own. Sometimes, yes, humanity can do stuff. I promise.
Exactly!! And not even just ‘for their time periods’, honestly. I study & teach a couple courses on ancient history (mostly Mesopotamia, but I dabble in human origins) and it’s not only monumental architecture that were feats of human effort. Massive ‘tells’ (mounds) aren’t just piles of dirt: they are the results of years upon years upon years of occupation and building in the same area, creating layers of history!* Sometimes, particularly in N. America, these mounds WERE created intentionally, but over an extremely short period of time, meaning it would have taken a massive amount of labor and social organization. We’ve built palaces, ziggurats, temples, towers, fortresses, etc. for many, many, millennia now. If Shane & co. had done one iota of research, they would’ve been able to see that none of this popped up overnight; there was a progression. Humans can do some really amazing things and it’s insulting and ignorant (and often racist!) to go around desperately trying to prove ‘theories’ that say otherwise, you know? *you know, it’s kinda fun to think about that YOU are currently helping to create one (or at least something similar), just by living right now!
The one that irks me the most is “we can’t even build the pyramids with today technology” like no we can and we’ve built harder things like massive skyscrapers that just go straight up
True story: A few years ago, I was with a girl that I was on the verge of dating. We were talking about how crazy the world is these days and how many crazy conspiracy theories are on the rise. I started naming off certain groups of theorists, jokingly naming off the dumbest that I could think of. She didn’t have a problem with anything that I had said until I said flat-earthers. I was blown away, but I had to know why. She kept saying, “I don’t care about the shape of the earth” and it only confused me more. If you aren’t a flat earth believer, then WHY would you have a problem with me calling them out? As it turns out, Shane Dawson was her source. She was directly quoting the flat-earther in the video that Shane published. It became sort of a meme in my friend group for a short while. For those who might ask, I DID delicately try to explain that the earth is round without making her feel like I was mansplaining or talking down to her. THEN I showed her videos of people explaining that the earth is round. She ultimately continued on with “I just don’t care about the shape of the earth.”
Lol that’s wild. “I don’t care about the shape of the earth” is such a funny thing to say. I got into A Conversation with a girl who believed that “space isn’t real” and I was like okay… but what about this or that piece of evidence and her answer to everything was “don’t care. the government plants fake facts”
It is hilarious though, for NASA and government, to create OFFICIAL sites disproving what's clearly not real. I did like watching whatever "proof" flat earthers could ever come up with, to prove their point, which in the comments others would troll and what not. But now all u see is, how only dumb people think of this, how it is clearly fake, the words "Flat" "Earth" alone trigger only major results posted by cliche youtubers covering the said topic and "disproving" it, as if they're the first humans to ever do so, rather than any other content, at all. So I think, this fuels more fun to people who already don't have a solid view on Earth's shape, but also know of NASA's moon landing clownery. Like, nudges them into the tin foil hat or something. lol.
@@catmerchant8699except she doesn’t “give no f’s”, if she truly didn’t care then she wouldn’t be defending flat earthers. she very clearly cares when she’s defending a viewpoint that she claims to not even care about. it’s like if i said i don’t care about how big my nose is, but if anyone talks about my nose i suddenly get super defensive while also claiming i don’t give a shit. it’s the furthest possible thing from real, it’s fake as hell.
The way Shane speaks, acts, looks, *tilts his godamn eyebrow* and spread misinformation to a whole generation of impressionable tweens is more than enough of a reason that we stand with Jess.
The "C rock" thing made me pause the video and put my hands over my face like Picard. It's not the dumbest thing I've heard on UA-cam this week, but it's gotta be up there. Edit: I typed this out before he suggested that the moon is a hologram made by aliens and that the landing was faked because aliens told NASA to do it. I guess now I won't be able to make an "Eggman pissing on the moon" joke since you can't piss on a hologram. Edit 2: So wait, is the moon a hologram made by aliens or a bowl hiding the Illuminati? It can't be both, Shane! And if it's hiding the Illuminati, then how did they get to the moon but not NASA?!
Please keep up this series and please keep bringing your girlfriend back as either an "expert" or at the very least a co-host on future episodes, she was the star of this video (pun only half intended.) She's delightful, hilarious, and insightful...also you were there too! In all honesty I love your artwork, editing, and commentary all on your own. Keep uploading and I'll keep watching!
I might be misremembering, but didn't Shane say that Garrett "researched" and wrote all the scripts for the conspiracy theory videos? Regardless, Shane is still responsible for platforming these ideas to his impressionable audience. However, I think people around him (or used to be) are getting off scot-free.
Thing is if Garret believed these things i’d be inclined to have a laugh but respect his opinion, however anything that Garret actually liked would get shamed by Shane, i believe Shane probably just asked him to hunt for information because well, why would you upload something random like this? Yea Shane was making bank but he’d not noticed how to manipulate an audience just yet. Then you remember that theory with the chuck e cheese pizza which i believe was all Shane, i mean even if Garret was a helping hand i fully believe Shane also had to believe this theory for it to be uploaded to his channel, i don’t wanna give Garret too much credit but we need to remember that Shane isn’t some smart mastermind, he’s also kind of a moron sometimes
Even Shanes tamer videos are undeniable proof he's never had an ounce of talent or put in an ounce of effort/research. Cringiest UA-camr Awaed goes to...
Or even the one about flying where he was like “why don’t pilots just fly the opposite direction to get the destination faster instead” but a simple google search would’ve solved that theory. He’s an idiot
What do you expect from an adult who thinks that there are demons or ghosts bothering him? The only thing that should be bothering him is his conscience. It’s honestly a little scary that he still has an audience after everything he has done.
I'm not a believer, like at all, but the theory is that Stabley Kubrick, who had recently made 2001 A Space Odessey, was used to film the moon landing since he was able to make space scenes in his film look so realistic. So I don't think it would have been more expensive honestly. However I do believe we went to the moon lol
@@inyrui yeah and 2001 a Space Odyssey looks NOTHING like the moon landing and is also shit from a space accuracy point of view. So what's your (or their since *you* are not a believer, uh) point? This is just what people that idolize Kubrick to a weird degree and think he is the second coming of Christ says because otherwise they would have to admit he did not know anything about space. Have you watched 2001 a Space Odyssey by the way? Seriously go watch the god awful (I'm sure it was fine back then) matte painting of the moon landing scene and have the BALLS to tell me that Kubrick could have make something as good as the moon landing video in 1969, a year later.
The girl from the comments that argued with her teacher that the moon landing was fake because Shane Dawson said so is probably cringing at that memory randomly at 3am
Your girlfriend might just be my new favorite person ever. If I were to liken her to a sporting event, I would say she is the Super Bowl of girlfriends.
‘I saw some lions and grew afraid I lifted my head to the moon in prayer, to Ishtar, the lamp of the gods, went my supplications: "O Sin and Ishtar, keep me safe!”’ That night he lay down, then woke from a dream: in the presence of the moon he grew glad of life, he took up his axe in his hand. A reference to the Moon in The Epic of Gilgamesh, written in 2100BC (text from the Penguin Classics translation). If the moon really IS a hologram, that's one hell of a long lasting conspiracy!
i am so so so so so so - & will forever be - embarrassed that i was one of those 7 million views on shanes video. AND I GENUINELY THOUGHT THAT WHAT HE WAS SAYING MADE SENSE😭very glad to have found the light & be on the right side of history now
Regarding the whole "there isn't air on the moon so how is the flag waving" argument it can be explained by basic physics. If the object is in motion and is lighter than the particles in the air then it would be effected by friction from said particles. The object in question being the flag cloth.
I don’t think it backfired. It was all and largely still is received very well. It’s only weirdos like Shane, and of course the children watching who don’t know any better, who’d make up anything to call it fake anyway. The flag out imo does make a better image
@@genericname8727 anywhere between 5 and 20% of Americans, though typically skewed toward the lower end of that, believe the moon landing was fake. And the flag “waving” is one of their number 1 pieces of evidence. So I feel like in that way it kind of backfired.
@@liz5089 again, I feel like those people would’ve pointed to anything. They think “this is so unrealistic! How could someone have gone to the moon??” Then they find reasons to support that skepticism. Flag, shadows, stars, reflection in glass, an eyelash on a rock. If not flag then something else would just as easily be top of the list. I hear the shadows point more tbh, but the stars one is just as believable and noticeable imo as the flag. There are people who believe the earth is flat because the horizon is. If people want to believe a conspiracy that made sense for a moment intuitively enough, they’ll find the “evidence” to support it. The flag made a better photo imo and those who don’t want to deny the reality get to appreciate that
Hi pinely! ive been watching your shit for awhile now, and aldo i dont have time to watch all of your videos anymore , and only check it out once in awhile, your videos and comedy are getting better and better. Really happy to see that your channel has grown quite alot, i hope you reach alot of succes in your career.
if Shane was British and continued making these types of videos especially if an upcoming law is passed in Britain Shane would be breaking the law for willfully spreading misinformation.
Shane thinks the moon is an empty bowl shaped object and gets 7 million views... Why is he popular? It's so stupid. He's misinforming his viewers. Thanks Mr Pinely for pointing out the idiocy of Shane Dawson.
But he puts a disclaimers saying they're theories and not facts again they're THEORIES you can believe in some of them not all of them I mean everyone is entitled to their own beliefs
@@Haruka6799His audience is 90% children, he should not be making these videos for children Most kids are Gna see a guy they like and just assume he is telling the truth, they don't have the critical thinking skills to evaluate theory≠fact Imagine if Mr Rogers or veggietales started talking about 911 conspiracies or the earth is flat You would probably rightfully see it for what it is, why is it different for a UA-camr Shane has always known he has had a very young audience
Ah, Pinely videos: My happy little escapism from actual problems. Easier to think about stupid Shane conspiracies tied up in a nice box, than the millions of idiots nowadays who believe in Qrazy conspiracies!
I love the idea that the government went to the effort of filming the moon landing but forgot to turn off the air conditioning. And the Russians never called them out on it.
I watched an interview with H3 and Bo Burnham from around the same time and they joked about the Hologram moon theory as Bo was unclear at 1st that he was talking about the moon landing theory. (In this context he was talking about a friend who didn't believe in the moon landing and didn't think that he had to clarify as it was the most popular moon related theory at the time). Maybe that is where Shane got the hologram tangent from. I am gonna go retrieve my dog's food bowl now. Thanks for reading my tangent.
UHM this is the series I've been WAITING FOR even though I didn't even know it. You're a king! And wowowow your girl sounds brilliant! A UA-cam power couple!!!
We WOULD know ... because the Soviet Union would have caught on immediately and revealed it to the world, making America the laughingstock of the world.
I never watched Shane's videos but from the way you explains it he's giving a bad image for the conspiracy theories lovers like witch is not cause I believe in them it's just fun to link two things that aren't connected like a story Oh and bowl
This is what happens when quite stupid people are allowed to go around thinking they're smart. They confuse the ability to think thoughts with intelligence and we get tripe like this. My thanks to Jess, I am a quite stupid person myself and I knew he was wrong but didn't have the ability to articulate why. Needed a Smart to come in and explain.
PLEASE review the episode where Shane talks to his brother about flat earthing (I think the episode is called “MIND BLOWING CONSPIRACY THEORIES” yes in all caps)
It's pretty telling that if you break it down faking the moon landing would be as big of, if not bigger, feat than actually landing on the moon. 1: You'd have to somehow convince the Russians(and anyone with a sufficiently powerful telescope) that we landed on the moon. 2: The moon landing was broadcasted (on delay in case of an accident) live for 9 hours You'd need to pristinely cut 9 hours of film(in a massive canister of film) with no mistakes hairs, cuts or even dust. 3: Getting Kubrick to accept errors like shadows, the flag waving in the wind, the stage light, and the c rock.
I love how the ‘proof’ in some of theories are just so obvious that there’s no way they would have overlooked it, if it was actually a conspiracy. You’d think that’d make them go “I probably just don’t know all the facts”, but no, they’re the only people who noticed a huge oversight, sure
I used to eat these theories up when I was between the ages of like 16 (assuming he started these in like 2016, I can't remember) to the time when he stopped. I used to love them, and even believed a large handful of the things he said, thankfully I was able to pull myself out of that all and no longer believe any of it but jesus christ. The stuff he talked about was just straight up brainwashing, and it worked.
This actually reminds me of the crap Keemstar recently started going on about, about UFO's from the sea flying up and "shutting down" nuclear reacotrs etc and that "the government knows there are underwater aliens but won't tell us!"
"if I see Shane Dawson, in the street, I'll pun-(censored)!" "This is a message to Shane Dawson. If I see you in the street, I'll-(censored!) 😂 bro. Jess is too funny
Jess was amazing, I love her energy, and I support her squaring up with Shane. I'd pay to watch that. Roll up with a bowl of popcorn and fizzy drink to see her throw hands with this man
I remember watching one of these videos like 6 years ago and in the one I watched he straight up said that 11/9 was fake and was like “many experts say it was physically impossible for them to fall like that”
I really hate the excuse of "oh his fans are in on the joke." Sorry but there are plenty of people that take this seriously. Whether it's cause they're neurodivergent or cause they're young or they're just plain naive, people will take this stuff seriously. I know conspiracy theories personally mess with my OCD and paranoia a lot even if I know they aren't real. Just because some people might be in on the joke, doesn't mean everyone will be. Hence why tone indicators are VERY helpful, because some people can't tell jokes. So even if he was in on the joke and his fans were too, it doesn't erase the fact that there are people out there taking it seriously and that it can cause a lot of misinformation to spread. Even with some of my favorite UA-camrs, I sometimes miss jokes or don't understand that they were joking even though to most people it would be obvious. So something like this, played where it's so serious, yeah that excuse is not okay. /srs
wow im a star, its showbuisness baby, there isnt enough room in this town for the both of us toots
U god, ur the first comment
How? How the fuck , are you a time traveller
Don't forget about us Jess
21 hours before the video posted? Hot damn time traveler.
Ur a bad bitch I love you for speaking straight facts, best expert speaker I’ve seen
I love how it seems like Jess is a cat wearing sunglasses who's been studying astrophysics for the last four years
Lmao same, I can't stop picturing an astrophysicist cat with sunglasses ready to beat Shane in hand to hand combat in a dark alleyway.
And Pinely's low-res photo looks like Brown Bruce Campbell. That's a power couple if I've ever seen one!
"i WANT tO Be a HOrRoR direCToR"
*doesn't know how shadows work*
For real, no wonder his movies were bad.
We need to talk about the fact Shane said the aliens gave the US money to get a sound stage. In what currency, Shane? What currency??????
Space bucks
In dollars of course. They only visit the US.
@@tubaraofeio1053 😭😭
star bucks
In McDonalds burgers obviously
Jess is literally just everyones last braincell just smashed together making one larger conglomerate braincell
That dosen’t sound healthy.
You mean a brain?
@@dreye3215 yes but technically a massive brain if it's all the braincells of everyone on earth.
The mega cell
@@64masterman Perfect Cell
I think the funniest thing is that he's assuming they just FORGOT stars. Like they build this whole moon set and forget there's stars in space? please
stars are also literally the easiest thing to fake too. just cut some holes into the backdrop and shine light through
but also like how would there be wind, in a soundstage, and how would an air-conditioner be left on for something that's meant to be so important?
You're girlfriend is great lmao. I love how genuinely pissed she gets.
"if you have loads of bright shit, and you change the exposure to see the bright shit, you can't see the dim shit in the background 😡🤬"
@@AlienZizi yea lmao, just basic camera shit and shame just missed it somehow
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@@emmslite6246 oh yeah. Guess your right.
@@deadakus you're*
i absolutely love that Jess has declared war with the *bowl* of a man Shane Dawson
I am totally ready to help her fight
I thought “bowl of a man” was some kind of UK or Australian lingo until I got to the end of the video 😂😂
@@Amanda-ze2ut honestly it sounds like a great phrase I kinda wanna use it lmao
@@day6superfan haha totally 😂
The one about the shadows hurts a lot. The whole science behind it is why greeks proved the earth is round decades ago. They teach you that the moment you get to greek history in class and Shane couldn't be bothered to listen to it.
Edit: it's centuries not decades. I'm an idiot and i apologize
Wow only decades ago?
@@oneinathousand2156 lol
You are absolutely correct. BUT I just have to say I didn't have Greek history taught to me in school and HOLY DO I WISH
It makes it so much worse to me because this man has directed a full length movie man….so he just wasn’t even kind of paying attention when his own set was being lit?!?!?! Having multiple shadows is a VERY COMMON PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLE LIGHTS!!!
*centuries
as an art student I was so genuinely enraged by how he thinks shadows work that I had to pause the video for a second. you can see his shadows in the background disprove his point AS he's trying to explain it.
As an idiot who plays games, even I was frustrated. FFS, that's NOT how shadows work, Shame Ditchson.
To get shadows like that on a studio stage you would need hundreds of thousands of little lasers stacked on top of each other. In 1969 those lasers would be hella expensive and very large, it would cost them less to send them to the moon then get all those lasers.
So apparently we didn't have the technology to go to the moon, but we had the technology to make a hologram of the moon
Makes sense Mr Dawson
No the aliens made the hologram of the moon.
And we also decided it was worth making a hologram of the moon which consumes energy
dont be silly, it was the aliens
i trust him
And we have had this moon hologram doing its thing since cave painting times. That's some serious commitment from the US Government aliens.
I love the moon landing theory because the lasers required to simulate the sunlight perfectly were further away in tech than space travel it also would’ve cost more than their budget. The flag was crinkled and when you move something in space it’ll keep moving. The bubbles off the space craft are ice crystals believe it or not ice forms when you travel through essentially a giant deep freezer for almost a week.
Hell, some of those icy bits might be from the liquid fuel tanks too. So many ways for Shane to be wrong lol 😂
@@DylanPackard don't forget about having to move through the _cloud layer_ when leaving Earth, y'know, that globe spanning mass of water vapor?
@Caleb OKAY yeah we only stopped going when the funding for nasa started to wane. But we still send those lasers regularly to
Measure their travel speed and see what’s happening with the moons orbit.
lol he forgot inertia existed
I saw a quote to day that seems really relevant. The quote was something like “its easy to come up with conspiracy theories when you dont understand anything” might have gotten the pharsing wrong but the message is accurate.
In high school I took this super cool class where we talked about cults and REAL conspiracies that happened (mk ultra, watergate, etc ) and this one girl was like “when are we going to talk about cool conspiracy theories?” And started talking about Shane Dawson and all his videos. My teacher looked so tired lol. He kept trying to explain to her why they were wrong and like we watch some videos and spent some days just debunking his theories but she would just play on her on her phone then she dropped the class.
Aw man, I wish I had a class like that
@@omachao6856 it was really really cool
Must be embarrassing to think about it now
Please tell me she was just young and not like 15 or something...
@@MutatedPercent A 15-year-old is still a child. I was dumb around that age, and I'm positive everyone else was. I was dumb until I was like 20 tbh. Your brain is still developing, and a lack of experience can make you like this.
I hate that when he was first getting canceled people were like “I miss his conspiracy videos!1!” Or “his conspiracy videos were the only good things he made!!” Like uh no. They were all shit too. They were all just absolutely mind numbingly stupid and was just him spreading just completely illogical anti scientific (and a lot of times stem from anti Semitic beliefs) “conspiracy” theories to his young impressionable audience and made them believe it.
as a conspiracy theory enthusiast i completely agree, i might even respect diehard flat earthers more than the bs he’s spewing
I agree, I started disliking him because of his conspiracy videos and when I tried to point it out I get swamped by Shane stans
YES nobody talks about how antisemitic some conspiracy theories are. people would be flabbergasted to find out they believe in the same theories the nazis did, their theories revolving around antarctica for example
@@pinkamenaxoxo exactly! I have tried to make comments on some videos, but nobody else except Pinely has seen these problems, and there are always hundreds of these "I hate what he did with blackface but I loved his conspiracies" comments.
Btw I even sent d'Angelo Wallace a pm on Instagram already a while ago when Vice made a documentary on the antisemitic conspiracies, and he has been criticizing Shane. Not that people would need to even respond or read their messages, I bet he gets thousands. It just baffles me that no other commentary youtuber sees a problem.
@@elainelouve I imagine Pinely being Jewish helps him identify antisemitic bullshit
I have my degree in astrophysics and Shane's logic is giving me hives
I know almost nothing about astrophysics, and Sham-wows logic is giving me hives.
I think I caught Corona from just listening to this guy 💀✋
@@huatseng6037 dont worry its fake
@@huatseng6037 oh man. Better go to your local AA meeting.
@@BlackScreenProductions125 LOL
The only good thing about Shane coming back is Pinely very gently and kindly roasting him.
Honestly, at the point that Shane made about shadows going in all different directions, I just immediately started questioning his mental health. Like, I’ve noticed that on Earth since I was 4? How could a grown (probably healthy) adult be this stupid?
Stanley Kubrick is such a perfectionist he went to the moon to film the fake moon landing on site
This really sounds like something Kubrick would do if he could
@@celthefox "Stop! You did the wrong fucking step. AGAIN, NOW."
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It’s so funny that people swear it’s secret footage. No, it was public knowledge that NASA had some footage filmed, as they wanted to have some footage to talk over in case the live feed screwed up. They were covering their bets in a time when technology was new and they wanted/supplementary backup visuals. It’s not like they filmed a whole movie, and it was never a secret.
Moonlanding theories always remind me of people who attribute things humans have done (Stonehenge, the Pyramids, etc.) to aliens. Like humans can't do builds of architectural wonder (for their time periods, at least) on their own. Sometimes, yes, humanity can do stuff. I promise.
isnt it funny how we always attribute architectures built by people who aren't white to aliens?
@@meyadin5844 you are right bruh.
I mean when I see builders building a highway bridge or tall buildings I get impressed how they do it
Exactly!! And not even just ‘for their time periods’, honestly. I study & teach a couple courses on ancient history (mostly Mesopotamia, but I dabble in human origins) and it’s not only monumental architecture that were feats of human effort. Massive ‘tells’ (mounds) aren’t just piles of dirt: they are the results of years upon years upon years of occupation and building in the same area, creating layers of history!* Sometimes, particularly in N. America, these mounds WERE created intentionally, but over an extremely short period of time, meaning it would have taken a massive amount of labor and social organization.
We’ve built palaces, ziggurats, temples, towers, fortresses, etc. for many, many, millennia now. If Shane & co. had done one iota of research, they would’ve been able to see that none of this popped up overnight; there was a progression.
Humans can do some really amazing things and it’s insulting and ignorant (and often racist!) to go around desperately trying to prove ‘theories’ that say otherwise, you know?
*you know, it’s kinda fun to think about that YOU are currently helping to create one (or at least something similar), just by living right now!
The one that irks me the most is “we can’t even build the pyramids with today technology” like no we can and we’ve built harder things like massive skyscrapers that just go straight up
man i adore your girlfriend. love that she'd just square up with Shane in the streets lmfao
She’ll try to beat the stupidity out of Shane. I don’t think that’ll work though
His girlfriend is so fucking funny ???
“Shane Dawson, if I ever see you in the streets, I’m going to *extended beeping*”
I love it
She’s honestly my hero.
True story:
A few years ago, I was with a girl that I was on the verge of dating. We were talking about how crazy the world is these days and how many crazy conspiracy theories are on the rise. I started naming off certain groups of theorists, jokingly naming off the dumbest that I could think of. She didn’t have a problem with anything that I had said until I said flat-earthers. I was blown away, but I had to know why.
She kept saying, “I don’t care about the shape of the earth” and it only confused me more. If you aren’t a flat earth believer, then WHY would you have a problem with me calling them out? As it turns out, Shane Dawson was her source. She was directly quoting the flat-earther in the video that Shane published. It became sort of a meme in my friend group for a short while.
For those who might ask, I DID delicately try to explain that the earth is round without making her feel like I was mansplaining or talking down to her. THEN I showed her videos of people explaining that the earth is round. She ultimately continued on with “I just don’t care about the shape of the earth.”
Oof how can anyone this day in age think that the earth is flat.
Lol that’s wild. “I don’t care about the shape of the earth” is such a funny thing to say. I got into A Conversation with a girl who believed that “space isn’t real” and I was like okay… but what about this or that piece of evidence and her answer to everything was “don’t care. the government plants fake facts”
She out here giving no f’s she so real for that
It is hilarious though, for NASA and government, to create OFFICIAL sites disproving what's clearly not real.
I did like watching whatever "proof" flat earthers could ever come up with, to prove their point, which in the comments others would troll and what not.
But now all u see is, how only dumb people think of this, how it is clearly fake, the words "Flat" "Earth" alone trigger only major results posted by cliche youtubers covering the said topic and "disproving" it, as if they're the first humans to ever do so, rather than any other content, at all.
So I think, this fuels more fun to people who already don't have a solid view on Earth's shape, but also know of NASA's moon landing clownery.
Like, nudges them into the tin foil hat or something. lol.
@@catmerchant8699except she doesn’t “give no f’s”, if she truly didn’t care then she wouldn’t be defending flat earthers. she very clearly cares when she’s defending a viewpoint that she claims to not even care about.
it’s like if i said i don’t care about how big my nose is, but if anyone talks about my nose i suddenly get super defensive while also claiming i don’t give a shit. it’s the furthest possible thing from real, it’s fake as hell.
You are milking this man and I love every second of it.
Thanks for the image of Sham with udders 🐄🐮 not a hard thing to picture hahah
Phrasing.
Bro 💀💀💀
That’s what he said 😉🍆🥛
We’re allowed to milk Shane Dawson, we dont want him back and this is our way of telling him that we don’t want him back
I wholeheartedly support Jess throwing hands
let's all encourage Jess in her mission
Jessica pulled a catch me outside on Shane Dickson and I love this.
This is the only way I can consume Shane's content.
Edit: Jess is my new hero
Ain’t that the truth
Before this I used to like Shane and even then I’d only watch him high 💀
The way Shane speaks, acts, looks, *tilts his godamn eyebrow* and spread misinformation to a whole generation of impressionable tweens is more than enough of a reason that we stand with Jess.
But these in his conspiracy videos he puts up a disclaimer saying these are not facts they're theories
his voice activates my flight or fight instinct, and more often than not i find myself siding with the fight part of my brain
I HATE HIS VOICE SO MUCH. It's so pretentious
Please tell Jess i love her attitude and I support her stance on fighting Shane. I will stand there and cheer her on. Also, bowl
I really like how Shane constantly goes "People say..." or "Some believe..." so UA-cam can't say he is spreading misinformation.
Bowls aren't real, everyone knows that
Bowls are secretly just a very small moon
Bowls are a government hoax to get people to buy more soup.
MAN does Shane EVER stop making weird ass videos? He’s got a whole library at this point
@Help me Reach 1k subs No.
He did stop making weird ass videos but then he decided to come back to youtube
@@MrHendrix17 yeah his newest one was weird too
He’s been on UA-cam for like fucking 15 years bro
he stopped making weird videos for the year after being outed as a creep
The "C rock" thing made me pause the video and put my hands over my face like Picard. It's not the dumbest thing I've heard on UA-cam this week, but it's gotta be up there.
Edit: I typed this out before he suggested that the moon is a hologram made by aliens and that the landing was faked because aliens told NASA to do it. I guess now I won't be able to make an "Eggman pissing on the moon" joke since you can't piss on a hologram.
Edit 2: So wait, is the moon a hologram made by aliens or a bowl hiding the Illuminati? It can't be both, Shane! And if it's hiding the Illuminati, then how did they get to the moon but not NASA?!
Don't you know? NASA is actually a secret organisation made by the aliens to cover up their existance. It even stands for No Aliens Stop Asking!
Please keep up this series and please keep bringing your girlfriend back as either an "expert" or at the very least a co-host on future episodes, she was the star of this video (pun only half intended.) She's delightful, hilarious, and insightful...also you were there too!
In all honesty I love your artwork, editing, and commentary all on your own. Keep uploading and I'll keep watching!
I might be misremembering, but didn't Shane say that Garrett "researched" and wrote all the scripts for the conspiracy theory videos? Regardless, Shane is still responsible for platforming these ideas to his impressionable audience. However, I think people around him (or used to be) are getting off scot-free.
I didn't know that! But ur right! Andrew's editing fucked his docuseries up just as much as Shane's did
Garrett doesn't deserve to be placed in the same category as Shane in my opinion. He was manipulated by Shane I feel.
To be fair when writing shit conspiracies that have no backing, you aren't gonna get good facts
Thing is if Garret believed these things i’d be inclined to have a laugh but respect his opinion, however anything that Garret actually liked would get shamed by Shane, i believe Shane probably just asked him to hunt for information because well, why would you upload something random like this? Yea Shane was making bank but he’d not noticed how to manipulate an audience just yet. Then you remember that theory with the chuck e cheese pizza which i believe was all Shane, i mean even if Garret was a helping hand i fully believe Shane also had to believe this theory for it to be uploaded to his channel, i don’t wanna give Garret too much credit but we need to remember that Shane isn’t some smart mastermind, he’s also kind of a moron sometimes
@@Babyteef sometimes? He doesn't seem that smart in the 1st place. Just an entertainer, I would say.
Even Shanes tamer videos are undeniable proof he's never had an ounce of talent or put in an ounce of effort/research. Cringiest UA-camr Awaed goes to...
Lol after seeing Shane’s movies, I know he doesn’t know shit about lighting 😂.
I remember Shane doing videos on flat earth and chem trails💀 idk if they're still up but maybe it'd be cool to look into
Yeah. Hbomberguy had a really good UA-cam video on flat earth if anyone’s interested in that
@@genericname8727 oh i love hbomb his videos are so good
Or even the one about flying where he was like “why don’t pilots just fly the opposite direction to get the destination faster instead” but a simple google search would’ve solved that theory. He’s an idiot
@@britneybritney wtf. Lol. Which one was that one?
What do you expect from an adult who thinks that there are demons or ghosts bothering him? The only thing that should be bothering him is his conscience. It’s honestly a little scary that he still has an audience after everything he has done.
Did you know it would of been more expensive to fake the moon landing than just going to the damn moon
I'm not a believer, like at all, but the theory is that Stabley Kubrick, who had recently made 2001 A Space Odessey, was used to film the moon landing since he was able to make space scenes in his film look so realistic. So I don't think it would have been more expensive honestly. However I do believe we went to the moon lol
@@inyrui ur forgetting the lighting and stuff look it up
@@inyrui the key thing is the lighting setup and such would have been farrrrr too expensive to be feasible compared to actually going to the damn moon
@@inyrui yeah and 2001 a Space Odyssey looks NOTHING like the moon landing and is also shit from a space accuracy point of view. So what's your (or their since *you* are not a believer, uh) point? This is just what people that idolize Kubrick to a weird degree and think he is the second coming of Christ says because otherwise they would have to admit he did not know anything about space.
Have you watched 2001 a Space Odyssey by the way? Seriously go watch the god awful (I'm sure it was fine back then) matte painting of the moon landing scene and have the BALLS to tell me that Kubrick could have make something as good as the moon landing video in 1969, a year later.
@@sarahlaurent62 ... calm down
I’m very ashamed to admit that back when this video came out, it had me like 80% convinced that the moon landing was fake 💀
me too LMAO i was like 14 😭🤣
The girl from the comments that argued with her teacher that the moon landing was fake because Shane Dawson said so is probably cringing at that memory randomly at 3am
Your girlfriend might just be my new favorite person ever. If I were to liken her to a sporting event, I would say she is the Super Bowl of girlfriends.
I enjoy this debunking series, if it ever becomes one.
Can't believe people still believe anything that comes out of Shane's mouth
‘I saw some lions and grew afraid
I lifted my head to the moon in prayer,
to Ishtar, the lamp of the gods, went my supplications:
"O Sin and Ishtar, keep me safe!”’
That night he lay down, then woke from a dream:
in the presence of the moon he grew glad of life,
he took up his axe in his hand.
A reference to the Moon in The Epic of Gilgamesh, written in 2100BC (text from the Penguin Classics translation). If the moon really IS a hologram, that's one hell of a long lasting conspiracy!
If we were doing the moon landing on a set, wouldn't we add stars to the background to make it more realistic?
i am so so so so so so - & will forever be - embarrassed that i was one of those 7 million views on shanes video. AND I GENUINELY THOUGHT THAT WHAT HE WAS SAYING MADE SENSE😭very glad to have found the light & be on the right side of history now
I'm embarrassed I used to be entertained by him. Very glad you're making this
Regarding the whole "there isn't air on the moon so how is the flag waving" argument it can be explained by basic physics.
If the object is in motion and is lighter than the particles in the air then it would be effected by friction from said particles. The object in question being the flag cloth.
imagine faking the moon landing so well that your own WORST enemy didn't even doubt it, but some random youtubers do.
I feel like they added the pole at the top of the flag to make it wave to have that like, "American Flag" image but it just backfired on them so hard
I don’t think it backfired. It was all and largely still is received very well. It’s only weirdos like Shane, and of course the children watching who don’t know any better, who’d make up anything to call it fake anyway. The flag out imo does make a better image
@@genericname8727 anywhere between 5 and 20% of Americans, though typically skewed toward the lower end of that, believe the moon landing was fake. And the flag “waving” is one of their number 1 pieces of evidence. So I feel like in that way it kind of backfired.
@@liz5089 again, I feel like those people would’ve pointed to anything. They think “this is so unrealistic! How could someone have gone to the moon??” Then they find reasons to support that skepticism. Flag, shadows, stars, reflection in glass, an eyelash on a rock. If not flag then something else would just as easily be top of the list. I hear the shadows point more tbh, but the stars one is just as believable and noticeable imo as the flag.
There are people who believe the earth is flat because the horizon is. If people want to believe a conspiracy that made sense for a moment intuitively enough, they’ll find the “evidence” to support it. The flag made a better photo imo and those who don’t want to deny the reality get to appreciate that
Hi pinely! ive been watching your shit for awhile now, and aldo i dont have time to watch all of your videos anymore , and only check it out once in awhile, your videos and comedy are getting better and better. Really happy to see that your channel has grown quite alot, i hope you reach alot of succes in your career.
The fact Jess is studying this, jus makes her 20000% more reliable THAN ANYTHING I could find, lol She's great, bring her back!
Man, I feel like such a dumb little boxer, thank you for awakening my mind Pinely.
if Shane was British and continued making these types of videos especially if an upcoming law is passed in Britain Shane would be breaking the law for willfully spreading misinformation.
Luckily he lives in my country, the u.s, where misinformation is rampant and no one can agree on anything
Shane thinks the moon is an empty bowl shaped object and gets 7 million views... Why is he popular? It's so stupid. He's misinforming his viewers.
Thanks Mr Pinely for pointing out the idiocy of Shane Dawson.
Humans can be…incredibly gullible 😅
But he puts a disclaimers saying they're theories and not facts again they're THEORIES you can believe in some of them not all of them I mean everyone is entitled to their own beliefs
Kids mostly children especially btw 8 to 12
@@Haruka6799His audience is 90% children, he should not be making these videos for children
Most kids are Gna see a guy they like and just assume he is telling the truth, they don't have the critical thinking skills to evaluate theory≠fact
Imagine if Mr Rogers or veggietales started talking about 911 conspiracies or the earth is flat
You would probably rightfully see it for what it is, why is it different for a UA-camr
Shane has always known he has had a very young audience
Ah, Pinely videos: My happy little escapism from actual problems. Easier to think about stupid Shane conspiracies tied up in a nice box, than the millions of idiots nowadays who believe in Qrazy conspiracies!
I love the idea that the government went to the effort of filming the moon landing but forgot to turn off the air conditioning. And the Russians never called them out on it.
Well because the Soviets faked all their space stuff too don’t you know, space isn’t real earth flat.
I watched an interview with H3 and Bo Burnham from around the same time and they joked about the Hologram moon theory as Bo was unclear at 1st that he was talking about the moon landing theory. (In this context he was talking about a friend who didn't believe in the moon landing and didn't think that he had to clarify as it was the most popular moon related theory at the time). Maybe that is where Shane got the hologram tangent from.
I am gonna go retrieve my dog's food bowl now. Thanks for reading my tangent.
Thank you Jess for saving the day
I'm also studying astrophysics and can fully relate to Jess' reactions
I like art, I’d say I draw more than your average person, and that bit with the shadows made my brain shrivel up. Like Shane, go outside at 5pm
UHM this is the series I've been WAITING FOR even though I didn't even know it. You're a king! And wowowow your girl sounds brilliant! A UA-cam power couple!!!
I usually have a simple rebuttal for these argument:
"If America DID fake the moon landing you wouldn't know it, nor would I"
That’s true🤣 plus when you factor the technology available in the 60’s, it’s impossible for anyone to fake it😅
We WOULD know ... because the Soviet Union would have caught on immediately and revealed it to the world, making America the laughingstock of the world.
Has anyone else noticed that we haven't seen much of Mr. UA-camr since Pinely started using his face? Conspiracy?
I love Jess she ain’t afraid to speak the truth 🤪 we need more Jess content
I never watched Shane's videos but from the way you explains it he's giving a bad image for the conspiracy theories lovers like witch is not cause I believe in them it's just fun to link two things that aren't connected like a story
Oh and bowl
"Whats wrong with this man! He's a youtuber and he knows nothing about camera's!"
This is what happens when quite stupid people are allowed to go around thinking they're smart. They confuse the ability to think thoughts with intelligence and we get tripe like this. My thanks to Jess, I am a quite stupid person myself and I knew he was wrong but didn't have the ability to articulate why. Needed a Smart to come in and explain.
PLEASE review the episode where Shane talks to his brother about flat earthing (I think the episode is called “MIND BLOWING CONSPIRACY THEORIES” yes in all caps)
Hahaha I think this is the most requested vid yet, we will definetly do that at some point
"this is my message to shane dawson if i see you in the street i'll [BEEEP BEEEP BEEP BEEP]" is literally the most relatable thing i've ever heard
Jess is my spirit animal, even though she’s not a spirit, or an animal. You should have her on again, she’s really entertaining! 😂
I mean humans are animals so she's like 50% spirit animal
“There is no goddamn C shape on the goddamn C rock” 😂
It's pretty telling that if you break it down faking the moon landing would be as big of, if not bigger, feat than actually landing on the moon.
1: You'd have to somehow convince the Russians(and anyone with a sufficiently powerful telescope) that we landed on the moon.
2: The moon landing was broadcasted (on delay in case of an accident) live for 9 hours You'd need to pristinely cut 9 hours of film(in a massive canister of film) with no mistakes hairs, cuts or even dust.
3: Getting Kubrick to accept errors like shadows, the flag waving in the wind, the stage light, and the c rock.
pinely, i never really noticed your artstyle until you made that moon, it looks cool
Jess needs to be a regular on these Shane videos, she's adorable omg
I love how the ‘proof’ in some of theories are just so obvious that there’s no way they would have overlooked it, if it was actually a conspiracy.
You’d think that’d make them go “I probably just don’t know all the facts”, but no, they’re the only people who noticed a huge oversight, sure
Dear god Shane trying to make his moon theory work makes my brain melt
“If you change the exposure to see the bright shit in the foreground, you can’t see the dim shit in the background.” ❤️
More Jess!! I love her she was so funny in this
I used to eat these theories up when I was between the ages of like 16 (assuming he started these in like 2016, I can't remember) to the time when he stopped. I used to love them, and even believed a large handful of the things he said, thankfully I was able to pull myself out of that all and no longer believe any of it but jesus christ. The stuff he talked about was just straight up brainwashing, and it worked.
when i was 11 i told my dad abt this theory and told him i believed it , he told my entire family what i said. he still makes fun of me to this day.
Rest in pieces 😭❤️
This actually reminds me of the crap Keemstar recently started going on about, about UFO's from the sea flying up and "shutting down" nuclear reacotrs etc and that "the government knows there are underwater aliens but won't tell us!"
Yeah, keem is a brainlet.
(*reactors
embarrassed to say that when i was younger i believed him :(
glad to say i now see how hilariously bowl wrong he is lmaoo
“You can just- you can just bleep me- but I want this on the record!” WE LOVE JESS
"if I see Shane Dawson, in the street, I'll pun-(censored)!" "This is a message to Shane Dawson. If I see you in the street, I'll-(censored!)
😂 bro. Jess is too funny
"you can just bleep me, if it's against terms of services, but I want that on the record!" 😂
Jess has the same attitude as I do and I'm absolutely LIVING for it.
so embarrassing that I used to eat these conspiracy videos up 😩
Jess was amazing, I love her energy, and I support her squaring up with Shane. I'd pay to watch that. Roll up with a bowl of popcorn and fizzy drink to see her throw hands with this man
Well to be fair I think he is EXTREMELY simplifying the space race but it was basically all about "getting there before those commies"
We do be loving theory busters doe
I remember watching one of these videos like 6 years ago and in the one I watched he straight up said that 11/9 was fake and was like “many experts say it was physically impossible for them to fall like that”
"If they're on the moon... where are the stars?!" IT'S DAYTIME. IT'S DAYTIME ON THE MOON. THAT'S IT.
My roommate and I were those teens who watched him religiously. We both hate him so much now, but she still believes the conspiracy theories :,3
OMFG Jess really said "Shane Dawson ON SIGHT"
As someone who's currently studying the Cold War and space race in history: Shane is very much WRONG
I really hate the excuse of "oh his fans are in on the joke." Sorry but there are plenty of people that take this seriously. Whether it's cause they're neurodivergent or cause they're young or they're just plain naive, people will take this stuff seriously. I know conspiracy theories personally mess with my OCD and paranoia a lot even if I know they aren't real. Just because some people might be in on the joke, doesn't mean everyone will be. Hence why tone indicators are VERY helpful, because some people can't tell jokes. So even if he was in on the joke and his fans were too, it doesn't erase the fact that there are people out there taking it seriously and that it can cause a lot of misinformation to spread. Even with some of my favorite UA-camrs, I sometimes miss jokes or don't understand that they were joking even though to most people it would be obvious. So something like this, played where it's so serious, yeah that excuse is not okay. /srs
jess is my spirit animal. the cat pfp just made it sm better. bowl
Jess is a goddamn keeper, I support her so much
You're not allowed to keep humans... Anymore
Wait y'all believe in the moon?
It's just 🧀
Jess is now my favorite character on the Pinely channel.