Thank you both Skarlet and Lord Eclipse for testing things out with me. Here's the pr if you want additional information. github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/18477
First round I did with revs was a mess. The head revs didn't know you had to melee them, so one of them ran up to me and someone else and used all of the charges on the normal flash. I ended up just telling the CMO who was right there what happened and they lost their one flash. The other head managed to get a hostage situation going, but due to my role that's all I know
On my first rev round I was the QM, I went to the bar and an engineer headrev came up to me and tried to convert me. I thought it was a prank so I jokingly called them a head rev.. they tried converting me two more times. The chef grew impatient and started to whack me with a bat but I ran away and told command, the revolutionaries did not win that round
revs works almost identicle to how it works in ss13, except head revs there usually get a disguised security hud, which will tell you their job and what security implants they have, such as mindshields or trackers
Are Synciate Operative and such antags able to be active at the same time as Revs or is it it own thing basically for that shift? Still asolutely thrilled to see this in action, love it.
Like nukies and traitors hybrid rounds exist, I'd assume that hybrid rev and traitors or nukies rounds can happen too. Technically they are sort of supposed to work together, but as least as far as I'm aware, there is no rule stating that they MUST work together or not kill each other. So for example nukies could totally wipe out syndi agents too if they so wanted and desired for whatever reason, even if it goes against their interests (since depending on who's the main antag, either the agents could help sow more death and chaos behind the lines, or they could help the loneop to accomplish their goal). Though as for MRP instead, I'd expect that they should collaborate, as it's hard to make sense roleplay-wise as for why one would want the other dead despite being on the same side. Nukies for example maybe could pull the RP excuse of "we are elite agents so our orders are above yours, meaning that by logic, the syndicate probably wants you too dead", but it's very meh and not very fun.
Syndicate agents are simply people involved with the syndicate and given a mission, they don't care for the syndicate nor the syndicate cares for them. Rev heads are mega brainwashed people sent by the syndicate to snowball out of control. Nukies (also known as the Gorlex Marauders) are a military group coming from a shitty snow planet employed by the syndicate. They all have their own mission and could care less for the other, most of the time they endanger the other's mission.
@@FunnyStripes The rules state that "team antagonists should work together with other members of their team, however they are not explicitly required to work with other types of antagonists, including different team antagonists."
Ah yes I was the first revolutionary head in Salamander. After wasting a flash by using it normally on a passenger, as a cargo tech I managed to get all of cargo (2 salv), a doctor, and a chemist. Other head revolutionary (janitor) got their flash confiscated by sec early so I only had 5 people to work with (including the other head revolutionary). 2+4 revolutionary, against 7 security. Safe to say that the revolutionary didn't win that round. We did kidnap the QM on the cargo shuttle and had an awesome standoff with sec and cap so shoutout to the medical doctor who had a space shuttle fight with sec in the salv shuttle. Loads of lesson learned both from that first run and this guide. Good balance between RP and mechanics for an antag since you don't get any syndie tools, and you need to convince the right people to go somewhere where you can convert them, and how to utilize their positions within the station to make a move. Thanks for the video Lilten!
I had a head revolutionary round once where I was chef and I was just walking around and converting people in maints and secluded area. I came back once in a while to do kitchen stuff, in the end security never suspected or searched me. The revolution began in medical, but I don’t know how it ended because I had to SSD and told adminhelp about it 30 mind prior.
Cults, Changeling, and Wizard are probably the one that'll get added first yeah. With some of the mechanic and gear already being in the game (Cults armor and runes, DNA Scrambler implants, wiznerd gear and spell.) Heretics and other antags will probably have to wait for a while, but i hope they'll eventually get to them. I'll finally be able to say "Another day at a meaningless jobs." without sounding like a edgy teens.
I think revs are cool but it does stress me out a little. I don't queue as any antag role because I don't like playing villains. With zombies it's pretty simple because you just walk after people and either infect them, or get killed. With revs suddenly there's the pressure to help the revolution in any way you can, when I'd much rather just be doing my job and having fun. This is just a me thing though. I got flashed on the first rev round on salamander, and I mainly just served as a lookout for my doctor friend against the CMO, and brought combat chems to the converted salvage team. Fun, but stressful.
Will or is it possible to use an inplanter to get rid of the mindshield? Like it's possible to get an storage or freedom implant out of somebody with that?
Just had a round where I converted nobody because I was using the flash normally not hitting people with it. Thanks for these guides the game doesn’t communicate these things very well
i understand security not being able to be converted, but it would be really fun if a sec could become a head revolutionary, even if at a very low probability( those one off rounds that are very rare)
It may have to do with the fact that security might just be mindshielded automatically at shift start or latejoin. That's how it works in SS13 anyways. Someone could actually surgically remove a mindshield implant if they're very adamant on converting someone instead of just killing them. Dunno if that's how that works in SS14 though.
I like the idea of a peaceful revolution, maybe gather all unturnables in perma then warcrime them. There's a lot of great rp potential with this antag.
I want there s a way to remove mind shield implant through surgery, at least for situation when metagamers start implant it on every living being animals including
They will still be flashed because it is still a flash, but it isn't a matter of if they have flash protection or not. All Security and Heads have mindshield so they are immune to being converted.
If i'm not wrong, revs were on nyanotrasen, and probably on delta-v too (but take that one with a grain of salt because i'm too scared of approaching delta-v closer than choosing valet and wandering the station, confused and dissapointed because of the realization that i chose the worst job possible)
@@Zelsix no idea, honestly. I mostly play on Imperial Space, some time back they even had a functional bank account system, a newsletter one and a shuttle ordering console that let you buy more shuttles, and not so long ago they even added a working AI as a player accessible role. Was probably one of their features.
Thank you both Skarlet and Lord Eclipse for testing things out with me. Here's the pr if you want additional information. github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/18477
urist gang gang...
If I became a Head of Revolution I am stealing the lawyer suit so I can be a man in black
That is gold
I observed a round where a lawyer was one of the head revolutionaries
@@poisonlight749that was me! Was a lot of fun. Immediately made the man in black connection lol
finally, the gamemode that allows rule-legal cargonia
also cant believe that surgery is just a week away!
Where do you get this news?
@@frog_man_ree surgery is always a week away, until it isn't
@@frog_man_ree its meme by now, everyone says its just week away , based on meme "christmas just week away"
Oh, I'm not cultured in ss14 memes
@@frog_man_ree it's not ss14 meme but applied to ss14
This sounds very fun. I already got MANY strategies brewing up for this one. Especially with cargonia…
First round I did with revs was a mess. The head revs didn't know you had to melee them, so one of them ran up to me and someone else and used all of the charges on the normal flash. I ended up just telling the CMO who was right there what happened and they lost their one flash. The other head managed to get a hostage situation going, but due to my role that's all I know
On my first rev round I was the QM, I went to the bar and an engineer headrev came up to me and tried to convert me. I thought it was a prank so I jokingly called them a head rev.. they tried converting me two more times. The chef grew impatient and started to whack me with a bat but I ran away and told command, the revolutionaries did not win that round
Were you the chap I was slub
@@haroldtony170 Why yes, I hope you managed to get your beard back
@@Gamesby48 it’s a sad day..
revs works almost identicle to how it works in ss13, except head revs there usually get a disguised security hud, which will tell you their job and what security implants they have, such as mindshields or trackers
This is a great update! Ohhh the scenarios I can imagine as a revolutionary...all the fights, the talks and so on will be AWESOME!
I've been waiting for this!
HELL YEAH I LOVED REVS, CANT WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO SCREAM "REVS!!" AS SOON AS THEY HEAR A SINGLE FUCKING FLASH!
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
Are Synciate Operative and such antags able to be active at the same time as Revs or is it it own thing basically for that shift?
Still asolutely thrilled to see this in action, love it.
Mostly not but it's in operatives'best interest not to be converted as Rev objectives overrule traitor objectives
@@marlikbudvergardit's a kinda mess, because you know, revs and agents work for same corporation and basically doing the same.
Like nukies and traitors hybrid rounds exist, I'd assume that hybrid rev and traitors or nukies rounds can happen too. Technically they are sort of supposed to work together, but as least as far as I'm aware, there is no rule stating that they MUST work together or not kill each other. So for example nukies could totally wipe out syndi agents too if they so wanted and desired for whatever reason, even if it goes against their interests (since depending on who's the main antag, either the agents could help sow more death and chaos behind the lines, or they could help the loneop to accomplish their goal).
Though as for MRP instead, I'd expect that they should collaborate, as it's hard to make sense roleplay-wise as for why one would want the other dead despite being on the same side. Nukies for example maybe could pull the RP excuse of "we are elite agents so our orders are above yours, meaning that by logic, the syndicate probably wants you too dead", but it's very meh and not very fun.
Syndicate agents are simply people involved with the syndicate and given a mission, they don't care for the syndicate nor the syndicate cares for them.
Rev heads are mega brainwashed people sent by the syndicate to snowball out of control.
Nukies (also known as the Gorlex Marauders) are a military group coming from a shitty snow planet employed by the syndicate.
They all have their own mission and could care less for the other, most of the time they endanger the other's mission.
@@FunnyStripes The rules state that "team antagonists should work together with other members of their team, however they are not explicitly required to work with other types of antagonists, including different team antagonists."
Amazing, can't wait for the chaos this will bring!
MY FAVORITE ANTAGONIST. ITS IT TIME BROTHERS, WE MUST RISE AGAINST THE MEGACORPORATIONS. VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
REV HYPE
Ah yes I was the first revolutionary head in Salamander. After wasting a flash by using it normally on a passenger, as a cargo tech I managed to get all of cargo (2 salv), a doctor, and a chemist. Other head revolutionary (janitor) got their flash confiscated by sec early so I only had 5 people to work with (including the other head revolutionary). 2+4 revolutionary, against 7 security. Safe to say that the revolutionary didn't win that round.
We did kidnap the QM on the cargo shuttle and had an awesome standoff with sec and cap so shoutout to the medical doctor who had a space shuttle fight with sec in the salv shuttle.
Loads of lesson learned both from that first run and this guide. Good balance between RP and mechanics for an antag since you don't get any syndie tools, and you need to convince the right people to go somewhere where you can convert them, and how to utilize their positions within the station to make a move. Thanks for the video Lilten!
I had a head revolutionary round once where I was chef and I was just walking around and converting people in maints and secluded area.
I came back once in a while to do kitchen stuff, in the end security never suspected or searched me.
The revolution began in medical, but I don’t know how it ended because I had to SSD and told adminhelp about it 30 mind prior.
Nice, now that Revs are in the game we just need Changeling and Wizard. Once that's in I'd say the game is in release state
Delta is working on a wizard alternative for when rebase strikes
Cults, Changeling, and Wizard are probably the one that'll get added first yeah. With some of the mechanic and gear already being in the game (Cults armor and runes, DNA Scrambler implants, wiznerd gear and spell.)
Heretics and other antags will probably have to wait for a while, but i hope they'll eventually get to them. I'll finally be able to say "Another day at a meaningless jobs." without sounding like a edgy teens.
Finally
I think revs are cool but it does stress me out a little. I don't queue as any antag role because I don't like playing villains. With zombies it's pretty simple because you just walk after people and either infect them, or get killed. With revs suddenly there's the pressure to help the revolution in any way you can, when I'd much rather just be doing my job and having fun.
This is just a me thing though. I got flashed on the first rev round on salamander, and I mainly just served as a lookout for my doctor friend against the CMO, and brought combat chems to the converted salvage team. Fun, but stressful.
As a headrev you see blue/red star symbols on characters sometimes, what do they mean?
Nice video, it's great that this mode has finally been officially added to all servers!
(But he was already on the white dream..., hehe)
Will or is it possible to use an inplanter to get rid of the mindshield?
Like it's possible to get an storage or freedom implant out of somebody with that?
Revs in SS14 I'm so happy :D
Gangs would be fun. Need credits or money though.
Ayyy, more antags!
Just had a round where I converted nobody because I was using the flash normally not hitting people with it.
Thanks for these guides the game doesn’t communicate these things very well
i understand security not being able to be converted, but it would be really fun if a sec could become a head revolutionary, even if at a very low probability( those one off rounds that are very rare)
It may have to do with the fact that security might just be mindshielded automatically at shift start or latejoin. That's how it works in SS13 anyways. Someone could actually surgically remove a mindshield implant if they're very adamant on converting someone instead of just killing them. Dunno if that's how that works in SS14 though.
Deconverted is the proper term, not unconverted
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I like the idea of a peaceful revolution, maybe gather all unturnables in perma then warcrime them. There's a lot of great rp potential with this antag.
Can sec hud detect revs?
Not yet. Soon (tm)
I want there s a way to remove mind shield implant through surgery, at least for situation when metagamers start implant it on every living being animals including
Isn't there an implant remover already?
@@Zelsix is it?
So if sec officer have sec hub glasses will he become rev?
They will still be flashed because it is still a flash, but it isn't a matter of if they have flash protection or not. All Security and Heads have mindshield so they are immune to being converted.
Do you ever play Delta? Would you do Epistemic tutorials?
I have not played Delta yet.
as a hos player, I am filled with fear
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!
now commit 2038
So you pretty much just run around hitting people with a hard 'R'?
Revolt
THEYRE HEEERE
Odd. I thought revolutionaries were in the game already. Must've been a custom server update.
If i'm not wrong, revs were on nyanotrasen, and probably on delta-v too (but take that one with a grain of salt because i'm too scared of approaching delta-v closer than choosing valet and wandering the station, confused and dissapointed because of the realization that i chose the worst job possible)
@@Zelsix no idea, honestly. I mostly play on Imperial Space, some time back they even had a functional bank account system, a newsletter one and a shuttle ordering console that let you buy more shuttles, and not so long ago they even added a working AI as a player accessible role. Was probably one of their features.
Ayyy finally!
Paramedics with implant removers will do wonders.
MOLOTOWS WHERE
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Hello
they added revs but didn't make flash infinite, grats
There's dozens of ways to get more flashes.